I am having the same problem you are addressing with 300 win mag. Belted mag cases are expensive, for me anyway, and the prospect of getting more reloads out of the cases is very interesting. I have been on innovative technologies web site before and thought their collet system looked good. Thanks for your video showing exactly how it works.
I had the same problem. I bought a small based die set. And a Lyman case gauge. I full length size. Then check it with my Lyman case gauge. If it doesn’t fit. Then I resize it in the RCBS Small based die. I bought a bunch of used 300 win mag cases. And about ten percent were bulged. Picked up the small based die set used.
Thanks for this video. I am reloading some 7mm Rem Mag cases that have been fired multiple times. I am having some difficulties closing the bolt. I had not had any issues with my newer brass.
Thank you for posting this video...it was awesome to see it demonstrated. I still can't believe there is a solution to this problem and the Big Boys (manufactures) have never addressed it. Been to Larry Willis web sight and bought the die.
Your new rifle has a sloppy chamber. That’s why the case is expanding more than on your previous rifles. Innovated Technologies is in my home state of Florida. Really nice people.
hI apex hunting I was wondering to you bump the shoulders back first or do you automatically run every case through the larry willis die and then bump your shoulders back ?
Thank you for this great video. I am having similar issues. I have the lee die set for 7mm rem mag and I noticed it was shaving the case towards the bottom on the full length resizing die. Plus it's super hard to run thru the die/press. I am going to try your technique and order that die. What size cartridge where you sizing in this video?
I’m having problems (not ) with the bulge above the belt….. I’m getting a bubble ring around the case neck and at the the shoulder. I’ve reloaded 300H&H successfully for over 30 years. Use a full length sizer. And have tried backing to off to only neck size. Using fire formed brass (once fired from my gun). And still having the problem. I can’t bump the shoulder without creating a bulge around the area where the neck meets the shoulder. And when I back it off far enough to only neck size. The bulge just goes up further on the neck. Got any ideas to remedy this? Any advice is appreciated
Hi , my thanks for the advice, well ive bought my first 7mm rem mag and of course will reload for it, ive purchased 40 Remington 160 grain rounds and 290 once fired cases, ive also sent for the die from the states as recommended, question for you, once you have full length resized do you try to chamber? its the first time ive loaded for a belted case never mind a 7mm,any advice would truly be appreciated as loads etc
Kevin Rimmington you can use the die to measure if it will chamber in the rifle just drop it in the top if it falls in all the way to the belt its good to go. Good luck with the reloading..... a word of warning it can become an addiction.
I've just started working up hand loads for my 300 wm and was baffled by the same chambering issue. I stumbled across these dies and am thankful you made this video on it. I have 20 rounds in the trash that might have been given a second chance. I just want to know after fixing the bulge are there other signs of case failure around the belt I should look for.
I use this die on my 300 H&H brass. It works very well. Btw, what brass are you using? Hornady is the worse quality. Norma, which also makes the brass for Nosler in this caliber, is the best I’ve tried.
I have not had any problem with case bulge in .300 H & H. For example, I started with virgin brass in 1993. Resizing was full length with a shoulder bump of 0.002 Loads were 64.0 gr IMR4831 (88% case capacity, ~2860fps) Here is the reloading history on that brass (now retired) 1993--virgin brass, fire-form 1994--resize, fire, anneal & resize 1995--fire, resize, fire, resize 1996-2003 sheep hunting years, no reloading of 300 H & H 2003-fire, anneal & resize, fire, resize 2004--fire, resize, fire, resize, fire resize 2005--anneal & resize, fire, resize retire cases, start with a new lot of norma cases The cases still fit my chamber smoothly. The cases still fit a Wilson case gauge. The case diameter just above to belt is 0.051" which is SAAMI spec. Why no case bulge? moderate loads? ( 64.0 gr IMR4831--88% case capacity, ~2860fps) reszing with slight shoulder bump? gentle 7.5 degree slope of the case shoulder? match-grade custom built rifle? or maybe I've just been lucky?
Hi having problems case sticking ? followed what you said sizing wax same but every case pulls out of the case holder and damages it beyond repair .any help please
Kevin Rimmington you have to use a fair amount of lube on the case. You also have to lube the collet well. Also the case needs to be sized through a regular die first. Hope this helps let us know how you go.
I've had the same problem with a few cases. I'll add that I'm not using imperial wax but a Hornady brand. I've found it helpful to clean the die body between shells. Slows the process but saves brass. Definitely FL size first.
I wonder if it is poor quality brass or camber !! what make of rifle and what Cal please share as this may be a problem with chambering from one batch or brand
OK, I have this SAME issue... So, what is it about the rifle chamber..??? WHY am I getting this case stretch/buldge just above the belt on my magnum...? Without doing a casting or measurement of the chamber... is there something wrong with my chamber..? I still get case buldge/stretch EVEN when I drop my powder charge..... Bern
Usually the problem is caused by resizing the case as a normal die cant travel the full length of the case a bump will form where the die stops. When did you first notice the problem was it a first reloading?
If it is just a one-off, why not resize the loaded cartridge? All the collet is doing is squeezing the case wall a tiny bit, a couple of thou at most. It is not touching the neck, the bullet, the primer, etc. Comments? Could redo the rest of them if necessary after firing if they still chamber.
4321rick you probably could. The manufacturer states not to size live ammunition and im not to keen on putting a live round under that much pressure, some of them take a bit of force to go through the die. i would rather just pull the bullet even though it takes a bit more time. better safe than sorry i say
I asked users at .300 H & H forum and no one has experienced case bulge. I have cases that I've reloaded 11 times since the 1990s and they still chamber easily. I wonder if there is no problem in these cases because their shoulders are so shallow: 8.5 degrees in .300 H &H compared to 25 degrees in .300 Win Mag for example.
The shoulder being shallow has nothing to do with it . You still have to bump the shoulder back .002 for proper headspace and over time the case bulges near the belt . The die and brass mfgs even admit this is a known issue. There are literally thousands of comments on RUclips channels attesting to this fact. Seems like you and whatever “forum” you’re on are just the luckiest reloaders ever ! Good on ya mate !
The federal brass isn't any good. By only having a couple of cases not fitting indicates a brass issue (provided all other reloading steps were consistent) . The die you used is basically a body die only , i'd be interested to know if the cases you resized fitted in the chamber without needing trimming.
peter fasitsas correct this die only sizes the portion of the case just above the belt and due to the collet allows the die to travel the full length of the case. since making this video I have had a few more cases that would not fit some remington and some Winchester after they have been resized in this die they have been problem free.
I am having the same problem you are addressing with 300 win mag. Belted mag cases are expensive, for me anyway, and the prospect of getting more reloads out of the cases is very interesting. I have been on innovative technologies web site before and thought their collet system looked good. Thanks for your video showing exactly how it works.
Thanks for making this video ! Your support for our products is greatly appreciated !
Great product, just need to get the head space gauge now.
Apex Hunting... gimme a call and I’ll make that happen
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I had the same problem. I bought a small based die set. And a Lyman case gauge. I full length size. Then check it with my Lyman case gauge. If it doesn’t fit. Then I resize it in the RCBS Small based die. I bought a bunch of used 300 win mag cases. And about ten percent were bulged. Picked up the small based die set used.
Thanks for this video. I am reloading some 7mm Rem Mag cases that have been fired multiple times. I am having some difficulties closing the bolt. I had not had any issues with my newer brass.
Thank you for posting this video...it was awesome to see it demonstrated. I still can't believe there is a solution to this problem and the Big Boys (manufactures) have never addressed it. Been to Larry Willis web sight and bought the die.
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Yeap 300 weatherby is a beast ,, saved 100 of brass would not fit ,,, scraped 1 ,,,, now Larry was using his head great product ,,, good video
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yeah always use the fl resize die and have it set to bump the shoulder back 1 or 2 thou. it is a great product and saved around 50 cases so far
I use this collett die on every case now. Great product.
Your new rifle has a sloppy chamber. That’s why the case is expanding more than on your previous rifles. Innovated Technologies is in my home state of Florida. Really nice people.
Good vid Apex - keep up the good work :)
So would i use a normal 300 win mag die first to de cap and size the neck before i use the collet Larry Willis die.
Thanks for sharing, I'm now starting to experience bulging issues with my .338 WM cases
sg ,we would be happy to help you out with one of our belted magnum collet resizing dies !
Very good sir. Thanks
Thank you nicely done! At 80 cents to a dollar a case, won't take long to pay for the die.
hI apex hunting I was wondering to you bump the shoulders back first or do you automatically run every case through the larry willis die and then bump your shoulders back ?
been grate for me. just need to check if it will chamber for length
Thank you for this great video. I am having similar issues. I have the lee die set for 7mm rem mag and I noticed it was shaving the case towards the bottom on the full length resizing die. Plus it's super hard to run thru the die/press. I am going to try your technique and order that die. What size cartridge where you sizing in this video?
G Reynosa hi sorry for the slow reply in this video im using a
7mm rem mag but the die can be used for any of the popular belted magnums
I’m having problems (not ) with the bulge above the belt…..
I’m getting a bubble ring around the case neck and at the the shoulder.
I’ve reloaded 300H&H successfully for over 30 years. Use a full length sizer. And have tried backing to off to only neck size. Using fire formed brass (once fired from my gun). And still having the problem. I can’t bump the shoulder without creating a bulge around the area where the neck meets the shoulder. And when I back it off far enough to only neck size. The bulge just goes up further on the neck.
Got any ideas to remedy this?
Any advice is appreciated
Hey mate cheers for the info man. Love your vids aye. If you dont mind me asking what dies do you use in general.
Redding they are great
Hi , my thanks for the advice, well ive bought my first 7mm rem mag and of course will reload for it, ive purchased 40 Remington 160 grain rounds and 290 once fired cases, ive also sent for the die from the states as recommended, question for you, once you have full length resized do you try to chamber? its the first time ive loaded for a belted case never mind a 7mm,any advice would truly be appreciated as loads etc
Kevin Rimmington you can use the die to measure if it will chamber in the rifle just drop it in the top if it falls in all the way to the belt its good to go. Good luck with the reloading..... a word of warning it can become an addiction.
I've just started working up hand loads for my 300 wm and was baffled by the same chambering issue. I stumbled across these dies and am thankful you made this video on it. I have 20 rounds in the trash that might have been given a second chance. I just want to know after fixing the bulge are there other signs of case failure around the belt I should look for.
Just normal signs like potential case head seperation and loose primer pockets but even with pretty hot loads I'm getting around 10 to 12 reloads
What about the bulge on the neck when using a bushing die to size it down?
Do you get scratches from the collet on your brass???
Nope
Thank you for that.
I will likely acquire that die for proper setup of .375 H&H cases.
I use this die on my 300 H&H brass. It works very well. Btw, what brass are you using? Hornady is the worse quality. Norma, which also makes the brass for Nosler in this caliber, is the best I’ve tried.
Frank B. Albaijés I use Privi.....
It has held up very well.
I have not had any problem with case bulge in .300 H & H.
For example, I started with virgin brass in 1993.
Resizing was full length with a shoulder bump of 0.002
Loads were 64.0 gr IMR4831 (88% case capacity, ~2860fps)
Here is the reloading history on that brass (now retired)
1993--virgin brass, fire-form
1994--resize, fire, anneal & resize
1995--fire, resize, fire, resize
1996-2003 sheep hunting years, no reloading of 300 H & H
2003-fire, anneal & resize, fire, resize
2004--fire, resize, fire, resize, fire resize
2005--anneal & resize, fire, resize
retire cases, start with a new lot of norma cases
The cases still fit my chamber smoothly.
The cases still fit a Wilson case gauge.
The case diameter just above to belt is 0.051" which is SAAMI spec.
Why no case bulge?
moderate loads? ( 64.0 gr IMR4831--88% case capacity, ~2860fps)
reszing with slight shoulder bump?
gentle 7.5 degree slope of the case shoulder?
match-grade custom built rifle?
or maybe I've just been lucky?
No problem with case stretch?
Hi having problems case sticking ? followed what you said sizing wax same but every case pulls out of the case holder and damages it beyond repair .any help please
Kevin Rimmington you have to use a fair amount of lube on the case. You also have to lube the collet well. Also the case needs to be sized through a regular die first. Hope this helps let us know how you go.
I've had the same problem with a few cases. I'll add that I'm not using imperial wax but a Hornady brand. I've found it helpful to clean the die body between shells. Slows the process but saves brass. Definitely FL size first.
I wonder if it is poor quality brass or camber !! what make of rifle and what Cal please share as this may be a problem with chambering from one batch or brand
Federal brass Sauer 404 rifle
OK, I have this SAME issue... So, what is it about the rifle chamber..??? WHY am I getting this case stretch/buldge just above the belt on my magnum...? Without doing a casting or measurement of the chamber... is there something wrong with my chamber..? I still get case buldge/stretch EVEN when I drop my powder charge..... Bern
Usually the problem is caused by resizing the case as a normal die cant travel the full length of the case a bump will form where the die stops. When did you first notice the problem was it a first reloading?
If it is just a one-off, why not resize the loaded cartridge? All the collet is doing is squeezing the case wall a tiny bit, a couple of thou at most. It is not touching the neck, the bullet, the primer, etc. Comments? Could redo the rest of them if necessary after firing if they still chamber.
4321rick you probably could. The manufacturer states not to size live ammunition and im not to keen on putting a live round under that much pressure, some of them take a bit of force to go through the die. i would rather just pull the bullet even though it takes a bit more time. better safe than sorry i say
4321rick thats just asking for trouble... play it safe...
100% safe without pulling. doing the same thing pretty much we all go to seat bullets right?
I asked users at .300 H & H forum and no one has experienced case bulge.
I have cases that I've reloaded 11 times since the 1990s and they still chamber easily.
I wonder if there is no problem in these cases because their shoulders are so shallow:
8.5 degrees in .300 H &H compared to 25 degrees in .300 Win Mag for example.
The shoulder being shallow has nothing to do with it . You still have to bump the shoulder back .002 for proper headspace and over time the case bulges near the belt . The die and brass mfgs even admit this is a known issue. There are literally thousands of comments on RUclips channels attesting to this fact. Seems like you and whatever “forum” you’re on are just the luckiest reloaders ever ! Good on ya mate !
The federal brass isn't any good. By only having a couple of cases not fitting indicates a brass issue (provided all other reloading steps were consistent) . The die you used is basically a body die only , i'd be interested to know if the cases you resized fitted in the chamber without needing trimming.
peter fasitsas correct this die only sizes the portion of the case just above the belt and due to the collet allows the die to travel the full length of the case. since making this video I have had a few more cases that would not fit some remington and some Winchester after they have been resized in this die they have been problem free.
this should have been a 2 min video