Titanic Expert's Chilling Warning Before Disappearing On Sub
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2023
- He was a legend of the deep, but he had doubts about his last dive. So what concerns did "Mr. Titanic" have before his final journey?
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If you're going to visit the bottom of the ocean, don't go in something that looks like it was bought at IKEA.
Anything made in china when put in tests becomes a disaster. 😂
😂
Or a Bud Light display.
There's an old video floating around of this idiot laughing like a giddy school girl over the fact that his lights were bought at a camping store, some third party aftermarket gaming console to steer it and some cheap computer components from Radio Shack. Plus he says they told him not to use fiberglass but he did in spite of them. This is not a visionary, he is a sick twisted MURDERER who knew he was killing people. What we are lookimg at here is one narcissistic nutcase, an experienced pilot who set aside his logic, wisdom and experience for God knows what reason, a bored dad who didnt know what to do with his money and a teenager who did not want to go but tragically went to appease his stupid father who put him in harms way. A murderer, two dopes and a teenage victim. This is reality dont make those three into heroes. They are not.
@@DirectX3The can that they took down was a composite. Not smart, they ignored the laws of physics. That’s literally all it was.
I really don’t understand how a man like Nargeolet, with all his knowledge and expertise of deep-diving and the sea, was convinced to ride on a metal tic tac to the bottom of the sea. It has no explanation.
Precisely 🤔 him of all people should of known better you would think.
I keep saying the same. Mind blown
the guy was 77...maybe he just thought "what the hell" I'm going to die soon anyway? maybe he didn't think he had too many more chances to see the Titanic and it clouded his judgement? Maybe he was making bad decisions because of his age? a lot of people that "should know better'" make bad decisions.
He was almost 80 & obsessed with the Titanic. I think he died exactly how he wanted to.
They were obsessed to the point of madness.
The friend that pulled out said they could not show him evidence of testing at 300 let alone 3200. He has done even deeper dives but said always was willingly showed regulatory checks. This had none. He said he has learned to trust his gut
he should have taken Tudca that wouldve alleviated his gut problems..
@@fidelcatsro6948 hehehehe 😂
I would venture to guess that after this man cancelled, the CEO didn't want to lose that 250k, and so the other man brought his son. 😞🙏
@@spearageddon3279 No, the other guy had planned to go with his son, and had cajoled the son into coming. The son thought the whole venture sounded sketchy and didn't want to go, but the dad guilt tripped him saying he owed it to him for Father's Day, so the son agreed. This french guy on the video, is the one who took the backed out guy's place.
" he said he has learned to trust his gut" - i think we forget that humans are animals, that feeling is "instinct ." :]
Most of these men understood the risks, but I’m not sure the businessman was fully aware nor was his young son. That’s what angers me. That poor young man.
Not very wise to go 12500 feet down into a dark dark freezing abyss. If you don’t see that as a risk nobody can help you.
The businessman pressured his son to go despite being terrified and having a bad feeling days before. He reluctantly went as a father's day present to his dad.
@@AccidentallyOnPurpose I feel sorry for the loss of life but to hear about the son only going to please his father although he said he was terrified. I guess the silver lining is that they died doing what they loved, and the son died honoring his father. All and all this is very sad!
Moving forward I don’t think these types of voyages should be allowed.
Something that I also thought about was the Titanic his an Iceberg and now 111 years later there wasn’t one in sight. With global warming I can’t imagine what that area will looking in 50 or 100yrs from now.
@@fegrace_1 Not really much of an honor if he was peered pressure to go. And to make matters worse, the 4 passengers had no idea the sub they were in gotten away with cheap third party inspections and corners that were cut.
@@AccidentallyOnPurpose Father's Day is an American holiday, not a British or Pakistani holiday.
Strange that Mr Titanic didn't realize the risks associated with that sub.
I can understand the ignorance of the other passengers.
He knew there was risk, but was ok with dying doing what he loved.
I was a Vietnamese Boatpeople, on the journey into freedom in November 1980 and we, 71 people on board in a tiny boat, spent 4 days and 5 nights in the stormy ocean. After this experience, I have committed myself I will never put myself and my family on any ferry ships for a holiday. I've been there done that and NEVER AGAIN. The ocean is the beast that always wants to swallow you. God bless the Titanic and the recent Titan 5 that carried 5 souls. RIP to them.
wow glad you made it safe all those years ago
You were very courageous to take that journey. You went through hell and terror, but I am grateful you and your family and companions on that ordeal made it out alive.
I heard about the Vietnamese boat people. It would be fascinating to read of your experience on board that vessel I hope you would consider writing a book about it. I am glad that God the Creator and Sustainer brought you through safely.
Bless you for your insight
I'm glad you survived & found your way to freedom.
I've found, (on a much smaller scale than what you endured), that the ocean does not "play."
This is what puzzles me -- there was an "expert" onboard who had done dives before but WHY regardless of the red flags and concerns, did he still go through with the dive on the Titan? You would think that based on his experience as doing dives before, he would have backed out or not even consider it. This is a bit puzzling why he would go given the higher-than-normal risk I guess. The thing appears to have been built like a tin can contraption. If it was a heavy duty Sub then that would likely have been different... but it wasn't. It was basically a tiny cylindrical tin can. While I don't wish death on anyone, I feel that the CEO got a first hand experience at just how questionable his design was because it failed and he lost his life, along with 4 others who were "innocent" but stupid for going in the first place.
Not to mention, the Titanic wreck is predicted to break down within the next 15-25 years, so anyone who builds a business around tours to the Titanic may want to rethink their business idea as it has finite life it seems, and would not be a sustainable business model. When the Titanic is gone, it's gone. Perhaps we should just leave it alone as it's not a tourist attraction, it's a grave site and we should just leave it alone out of respect for those who lost their lives over 100 years ago.
I don’t think you understand the situation or their business at all. It was a privately funded company to bring greater research to the bottom of the sea. It is not a company built around “tourist attractions”. They were pushing the envelop to make researching and exploring the sea more attainable and reachable. Much like Elon and space. The expert was not afraid of dying - these were innovators. They knew the risks. The only careless part is perhaps allowing the businessman and his son to go too.
He likely decided to accept the increased risk because there is no other extant submersible able to go to the Titanic. Oceangate's Titan was the only possible way to visit the wreck, and it was either use it, or don't go at all. And the guy really wanted to go, he was fanatically obsessed with exploring the Titanic.
Yes that is why we have passengers handling the safety checks on planes... He is an expert about the Titanic, not a technical expert and hence relied on what that company told him.
You don’t get to be Mr Titanic without an insatiable thirst for going underwater. He knew the risks but rolled the dice anyways. It was either that or stay at home.
@@thebigpicture2032 or pick a better way to do it or pick another thing to have a better chance to keep going
I keep reading how they were “five explorers, passionate about the Titanic,” nut that doesn’t apply to the 19-year-old, Suleman. According to inter with his grieving aunt, Suleman was terrified and tho it was too dangerous. He agreed to go, after another would-be “explorer” had a work conflict, only because his dad was fascinated by the Titanic, and he wanted to please his dad.
So maybe there were four explorers, but there weren’t five.
With the exception of the French Titanic expert, they weren't explorers, just super rich, bored deep sea rubber-neckers. Leave those 1500 poor Titanic lost souls to rest in peace.
I AGREE! I feel sorry for the kid, because at that young age, it's really, really hard to say "no" to your father.
@@michellep3099 That seems unfair. What is an explorer EXCEPT somebody who wants to see something?
A man with world recognition for deep dives should not be easily dismissed as a "rubber-necker" any more than Steve Irwin should be refered to as a "man playing with dangerous animals".
@@OhJodi69nah it ain't unless you have no balls. I started telling my dad no at 10 ish years old and thought long and hard about the reasoning as to why I took that position before doing so and I conveyed it respectfully. I always stood by my convictions. My father has great respect for me for doing so even though we didn't see eye to eye. People today are just cowards.
@@michellep3099 Did you watch the video? The French man has been to the Titanic site over 20 times and the Billionaire did all sorts of mountain climbing. Call them foolish if you wish they took risks I certainly wouldn’t have taken but you know absolutely nothing about these people and why they did the things they did. Pretty sure the billionaire was in a league of explorers.
What I don’t get is: Paul-Henri Nargeolet was the most experienced passenger with 35 trips down to the wreck. Did it not occur to him there was something shoddy about the Titan submersible?
He wasn't an expert apparently. Any rich slob can get ferried in a submersive to Titanic 50 times but still be absolutely clueless about the safety measures.
Is 35 trips to the same wreck not enough anyway??? the 36th was a big mistake
@@westfieldracergood point
the titan made 20 trips down and back to the titanic. So it wasn't like this was the first time ever trying to reach the titanic wreck.
@@ronnywilly at most 12 trips is what I've heard
So many people said this sub shouldnt have been this deep or had issues. Yet it was ignored. Wven a guy who helped build it was fired for saying it shouldnt go that deep for this reason.
This is the underwater version of Challenger. The engineers warned about the O rings being damaged but no one listened I ended up watching its destruction from my elementary school all because the top people at NASA didn't care what the designers warned.
I was thinking that myself.. I was in kindergarten watching that launch with my mom in our home alone together.. I won’t forget Kristen Mcoullough
"it'll be fine" .... famous last words.
It was actually the simplified Shuttle design that Nixon signed off on which led to the problem with the O rings. The original Shuttle design that was signed off by JFK was associated with Nixon's political opponent, so he wanted to 1-up them by cancelling it and replacing it with a cheaper design, all for political points.
@@JM-us3fr Crooked Nixon. Impeached crook. He didn't care either. I was traumatized along with other school age children and globally watching its destruction all because of crooked Nixon trying outdo JFK. When will humans learn?
I remember this vividly as well
The Titanic claims five more victims 111 years later. My condolences to the families and my regret for all the things these men may have accomplished that they will now not accomplish.
They are now part of the crash site they wanted to investigate.
And Titanic got the guy who looted and robbed her of the dead passengers items…..then he calls them artifacts. They’re stolen from the dead.
Not the Titanic, hubris.
@@laurenurban3942 Who gives a shit. Those are material items, people lost their lives and all you care about are some dead persons items.. yikes.
"It's just not a problem." ;-)
I feel for the 19 year old boy aboard as his aunt said he was terrified of getting on the vessel but because it was Father’s Day weekend so he agreed. It’s sad hearing James Cameron talk about this incident because he explains it in such a way you know it could’ve absolutely been prevented.
"Here were are again & at the same place. Now there's one wreck lying next to the other wreck for the same damn reason." -James Cameron
And now the other "extreme divers" will want to go and put a plaque or something down there, which will make for a new reason for the filthy rich to go see the Titan and the Titanic.
@@lispyDribbler There is nothing left of the titan It is in pieces. The giant pieces if any will taken by the rover. the small ones are staying. RIP to those guys.
His interview was really good wasn’t it
Forgive me for what I am about to say, but James Cameron, while a brilliant filmmaker, is the Stockton Rush who took the same risk and got away with it. Stockton Rush thought he could top Cameron’s high score, and he cut a few corners that Cameron and George Tulloch and Robert Ballard before them were wise enough not to cut, and paid the penalty for it. But if things had happened a little differently, it might have been one of their subs that imploded, with one of them and their crew inside it. Dr. Ballard has long pointed out that the technology exists now where you can see and vividly experience the Titanic, or any wreck really, from the safety of the surface. If you must explore uncharted depths or unmapped horizons, do it with robotic equipment that if it is destroyed, the only thing that is lost is money and not human lives. Because the time for manned submersibles is now in the past. Just like the time for manned space shuttles like the Challenger and Columbia is in the past. Oh, if only humanity would learn not to risk human lives to accomplish things in the name of something called progress! Is it really progress? Or is it just being cheap? Or is it striving for something even less tangible than these? I honestly don’t know. Maybe a combination of them. It must not keep happening. But I fear history will just keep repeating itself over and over, people making foolish mistakes, people making stupid decisions, people both guilty and not guilty paying the penalty for it, and their loved ones weeping for them when it’s all over.
Well said! Same thing wreck on a wreck for arrogance geez!!!
The only saving grace is they probably didn’t know what was happening, as it happened really fast. Totally different from the passengers on the Titanic, who died a truly terrifying death & took almost 3 hours for the Titanic to sink. Must have been heart wrenching also for the survivors who witnessed so many perish.
Are you talking about the women who had no problem or issue with jumping into a lifeboat and leaving men behind to die ?
Yes, an implosion at that depth would have happened in the blink of an eye, they wouldn't have known it was coming. Sad though that the likelihood of them finding any intact part of the bodies is rare.
Shut up yogagirl
@@exitscreaming4637what
Just watched Titanic Honor and Glorys video of it in real time and man it was heart wrenching... and for those wondering... they were all outside of body and into that perfect peaceful light... by the time they knew what had hit them they were already surveying the wreckage themselves before making that return trip to the Blue Bayou. But unlike those theories, No, I do not believe they are now trapped down there with the other 1400 souls.. I believe most who died in the Titanic have already died multiple modern day lives..(Especially in the 80's...) But still.. God be with all those who were there that cold night to suffer that tragedy..🙏🩵
I'm sorry, but no... they weren't explorers. They were tourists. Explorers pay their dues; tourists just pay their fare. Calling them explorers is like calling yourself a pilot because you bought a plane ticket.
Totally agree!
😂😂😂
Similar to the billionaires who pay to take a rocket to barely skim the lower limits of space for a few minutes, then call themselves astronauts.
I have a drivers license, hence, I'm a terrestrial explorer
Not all of them.. The french guy was an ocean scientist who has been at the titanic many times
While we thought they were trapped in the sub losing oxygen by running out the time, all five were squeezed like mosquitos since 4 days ago. A very expensive one way ticket for a graveyard. Sad but true
The experts are saying it happened very quickly. But ''experts'' said the same thing about the Challenger and that ended up being fiction.
Yep, they all died faster than the speed of a bullet when that implosion happened. Unfortunately for the families there will not be any bodies to recover, as the total decompression destroyed any sign of life in a split second.
@@meetontheledge1380 No hope to find their remains and give them a right sepolture. Even in 2003 a space shuttle blew up for a burning abroad due to a trouble in meeting between atmosphere and stratosphere . They died all when there were coming back to earth.
@@mistercik You know that family members who lost their loved ones can sometimes stumble into comments like yours, right?
@@eduardomartin8510 we didn't say anything wrong. We were marking what it happened to them. The news went around the world. Everyone was hoping the best for their rescue even if someone just though for worst. Take it easy man, make an unviolent post isn't outlaw
im kinda confused by this, every media i watched and read, say they were on a tourist trip and paid 250k each individual in order to go, and some say the died heroes exploring the great depth of the big unsolved mysteries of the sea, which is it? rich tourists with poor judgement or explorers who knew the risks and went regardless? no matter what, i ONLY feel bad for the kid because he didnt want to go and was terrified but went just to please his father. RIP
right on Gary
Or, in a weird twist of irony, the stepson sabotaged the ship some way. The same way the original owner of the titanic switched it's name. And all of his competitors died. It's a stretch (i know given how janky the thing looked) but still. Just a theory
I will never be able to understand how these guys are hero’s. The real heroes are the ones who wouldn’t certify a tin can with a PlayStation controller, and the Coast Guard who spent exhausting hours looking for answers for the families.
@@steveo.574actually...
The name of the Titanic wasn't changed. The way the name was bolted onto the ship was done by those who built it. The name could not be removed from either the Olympic or the Titanic. No matter how hard anyone tried.
Still, the name "Titanic" can be seen etched on the side of the ship in the sea. There's no evidence the ships switched places.
Btw I've done pretty well extensive research on Titanic
rich tourists with poor judgement and extreme stupidty
Seeing the guy tossing the joystick like that, makes me uncomfortable.
when he said two AA batteries... thats when I was out.
He should have used a real Atari joystick from the 80s they were made from metal..
Me too, but they carried 2 backup joysticks also.
They were not explorers, they were ill informed passengers that failed to perform due diligence before they boarded a substandard craft.
They were mostly thrill seekers. Expensive and ultimately fatal thrills sadly.
Indeed
Exactly
He was absolutely an explorer. He was a member of the explorer's club and he wasn't called Mr Titanic for no reason, he was an expert. Pretty sure the billionaire was also in the club but I'm not sure.
@@DavidNotSolomon True and a lot of billionaires are thrill seekers. Look at it from their perspective, working for a living to go on that dream holiday of a lifetime gives them no excitement as they have enough money to last many lifetimes so they need a challenge, that adrenaline rush. I'm certain that all of the passengers on that sub (except for the 19 year old kid) knew that the design was flawed and it was nothing more than an experimental design but that added to the thrill of the dive. To throw away your life for the cost of 250K dollars on a dive to the Titanic wreck site is a tragedy.
Can't we just leave the Titanic alone? That "sub" was a death trap.
TheMichaelBeck So was"The unsinkable Titanic"......a death trap.
That sub wasn't even a sub
lol it sounds like you're worried about the Titanic's feelings
@@exitscreaming4637 LEAVE -BRITNEY- THE TITANIC ALONE !
Still claiming lives after all this time.I feel sorry and sadden for all .Father and son 2 generations gone.
One expert on submersibles summed it up with this incredible statement : "There are 10 submarines in the world that can go 4000 meters or deeper and the Titan is one of them...all of them are certified which means they've been peer reviewed and inspected. The Titan has not."
Yeah they shouldnt put a foot there. If you have 9 certified!
It's a terrible shame, but most experts say this vessel was flawed, to say the least. This man, in particular, knew what he was getting into.
That's not true backed by Boeing, and Nasa. Just not funded by the government, or applied for their certifications.
Stockton was a amateur a mad man a mad man
They all say that now.
I don't remember anyone warning of the dangers back in May. Where were all the experts then?
Huh ? How much do you know about him? Do you think he was suicidal ?
Stop playing god..
Fate isnt without a sense of Irony...
Dude studied and explored that ship most of his life...now he's a permanent resident there....
Unfortunately, some mistakes you only get to make once.
Amen!! I believe that !!! You said that right ...
Marriage
What strikes me is, these were all extremely intelligent men with many achievements in their life times who for some reason collectively ignored the fact that the Titan was a poorly built experimental vehicle, that underwent zero inspections by any agency. They knew these things and decided to go anyway, in fact for all but 2 of them, they had been to the Titanic already so it wasn't like a once in a lifetime thing. I get that there are adrenalin junkies and risk takers, but going down to those depths on that submersible was more like having a death wish than being a risk taker.
My thoughts exactly….I feel sad for Suleman who really did not want to go…
They bought their "achievments," just a bunch of glorified rich people.
You can be intelligent AND foolish at the same time...
What evidence do you have that the passengers " ignored the fact that the Titan was a poorly built experimental vehicle " and " knew these things and decided to go anyway," ? Please share
@@exitscreaming4637Are you blind??? Just look at that tin can and tell me it’s safe😂
The saddest thing about this whole event was that there is no body to recover.
The 19 year old is the only one I feel bad for, the others had lived there lives.
What's the age cutoff where you stop feeling bad for people ?
@@exitscreaming4637 When they get to the age that they should know better but still do stupid stuff. Young people get a pass.
Exactly
@@exitscreaming4637once you’re a full cognitive thinking adult who chooses to deep sea dive in a tin can knowing the increased risks is when I stop feeling bad for people 🤷🏽♂️
@@juuiceboxx It was worse than a tin can.
You call them "true explorers", I call them rich dummies.
And you would be correct.
No way in Hell would i ever get in something that small to go that deep! 5 people inside that thing? OMG!
My heart goes out to the families of those involved
And the 68,000 Americans that die every year just because they can't afford medical care.. 👍
Why?
Their hearts will go on
Here are some tots and pears !
Near far wherever they are I believeeeeeeeee 😂
so sad for this tragedy. What a loss of potential for the world. RIP,sympathy to all families,and friends.
I wouldn't call it a tragedy. It's more like an accident waiting to happen. And eventually, it happened.
My heart goes out to the souls on the Titanic....when will they ever let you just rest in peace without being a spectacle?
It's going to disintegrate, and then nobody will be able to see it.
@@Knowbody42why would you want to see it? 1500 people died on it,its a cemetery at the bottom of the ocean..it should be left undisturbed
@@Knowbody42 so like a corpse? In other words decompose...in a sense. Leave the carcass alone, those who trespass should remain at her side....with her new guests. The Titan.
@@MrTibbs12 Agreed! I say go to a cemetery above ground and visit a relative or something. Makes no sense to keep harassing those who have perished at the bottom of the ocean.
But at the same time they built a gift shop above the twin towers
As sad as this whole thing is, there's something beautiful about the fact that Nargeolet died near the Titanic, which he dedicated so much of his life to.
gotta agree
insane dedicating your life to a ship wreck .
@@inka87871 Not to a ship wreck. To history and exploration.
Probably intentional
@@xfhnhhgjbvcfgyou almost have to wonder? The knowledge of the danger was there and also the fact that it’s his passion. What better way to be remembered for your work?
Sorry to hear that such a spectacular experience ended in tragedy.
It's even more chilling that this man owned the scavenging rights to the Titanic. I know some may call it "preserving artifacts", but it's also a form of grave robbing. May all those who perished in those waters rest in lasting peace ❤️
That I'm not so concerned about. These items will decompose soon enough so it's not robbery.
And the dead didn't own the ship itself.
They're all in hell now
I think grave robbery charges are more likely to have merit when leveled at the people behind the WW2 shipwrecks currently disappearing in the Pacific.
They care immensely about the wreck and there are tons of rules and regulations about what they can bring up. Bringing some artifacts up helps to preserve the memory of the lives lost.
@@sojourn777 Damn man, I'm glad you're not in charge of it lol
I am sad for the families and I truly don't mean this to sound horrible but the irony of this situation....
its ok to be horrible to criticize acts of stupidity..
Well, when you publicly claim your tin can is "involunerable" and you name it Titan(ic)....
@@denisemetzger305yeah I'm sorry but that was a stupid move
@@denisemetzger305History repeats itself I guess
@@Reyob no in this case it doesn't. The Titanic was never tested, still thousand boarded her on that trip! Whereas the Titan has been in service for years.... successfully! Find the fault.
77 he lived a full life. Fitting that he died near the titanic
Prayers to the families and loved ones of the 5 men that perished at Sea. They died doing something they loved (except the 19 year old who didn't want to go) but did it for his father. The only negative about the whole thing was those that chose to go on the tour paid a heck of alot of money. Question is how much money has the company made since they have been on operation? By the looks of the sub the money wasn't used for making the sub more safe. Money went into the pockets of the owners of the company.
If that is what you love enough to risk your life over it, there is something wrong with your love.
The guy who raised the alarm about the thickness of the porthole and the lack of underwater pressure tests on the hull was fired, so...
EXPLORERS? Really? This was a SIGHT SEEING Expedition! They weren't EXPLORING CHIT!
Exactly.
He died doing what he loved, very dangerous and risky though it may be.
"Love, love, love. All you need is love". This SICK "love" foisted down our throats ever since the fucking "Summer of L" has driven us all mad, and put us on the verge of destruction. STOP attaching the word "love" to any and all immature whim!
I feel most bad about Nargeolet. Yes, he was 37 times near the Titanic, he knew what would happen if such accident happens. He really died for his passion.
Also, poor 19-year-old guy, so young, according to the comments here - afraid to be on such a vessel. I am also afraid of the sea/ocean and drowning in it. Even if my father, strong and never showing fear guy, was with me.
Passion? I'd call it obsession. 36 times weren't enough.
@dereksbooks fair enough
It was weirdly prophetic that they named their company "OceanGate," given what's come out about it now.
I think they watched too many Stargate movies.
I did think of that...makes you think of 'Watergate'
50 dollar cordless game controller to drive with? No way😮
Made in China probably...theyre getting better at everything BTW
Condolences to their families and friends.
Its crazy how people wont listen to experts .
The guy who designed the sub was an expert and he was on the sub.
" Other " experts
Tragic...... especially for the loved ones left behind!😔
Trying to get someone rational to go on another OceanGate sub to see the Titanic would be like trying to get Kid Rock to drink Bud Light. Good luck with that.
Somehow, I don't think ocean gate will be in business for much longer, so more tourist trips probably won't happen.
He was asked this directly. His response was eerily despondent.
Few knew before they become news- few shall agree that carbon fibre should not be the material for the cylinder as it shall be exposed to repeat episodes of pressure decompression increase and decrease of temperature and a steady period of storage in a different temperature, and that washer bolt would be the best closing device considering that blot pressure might deform the carbon fibre later onwards creating strained zones that might yield to extreme pressure. Few shall agree that a titanium half sphere shall be compatible with carbon fibre shell as a single whole for resisting deformity as a single whole. And few shall agree that the sighting transparent compost material shall maintain its integrity through repeated use cycles. And finally that these materials and the assembly as a whole should not have been put through a laboratory process under the watch of competent scientists
Stronger and lighter than steel, twice as brittle as glass. Anyone who's owned a carbon fiber bike would have known this was a bad idea.
Theres your expert
@@alkh3myst Yes, why not make the whole thing out of titanium? Too cheap?
@@DavidNotSolomon Probably.
He was a true explorer. HE was.
learning what? He had a sick obsession with the Titanic.. It was a disease.
It's better to die instantly in an implosion, than suffocate slowly. RIP, brave explorers.
Brave or stupid? I’ll vote for stupid
@@juuiceboxx well, stupid is what gives us intriguing news
It’s better to try and stay alive
Better not to die in stupidity. 😅
It is better not to die through gross negligence. What an idiotic comment.
End of story.
They talk about every one of them being “great explorers”! What about the 19 y/o? He probably didn’t want to disappoint his billionaire Dad so he went despite being scared. I wonder how his Mom feels knowing that Dad paid for him to go despite his fears. The others died doing what they loved. The 19 y/o died just to be with his Dad!
Reportedly, the U.S. Navy detected a noise on Sunday, the same day contact was lost with Titan, but released their findings on Thursday, after the news broke out on the implosion killing all five.
Well, if a U.S. Navy spokesperson had said on Sunday that what they heard through their highly classified ocean monitoring programs probably was an underwater event that made rescue attempts pointless, then the internet would be crawling with with lurid theories explaing how evil Commander-in-Chief Biden ordered the Pentagon to come up with lies to dissuade rescue efforts, and "the real reasons" why Biden wanted this mysteriously wealthy Pakistini, the British billionaire, and others to left to drive from lack of oxygen even though so many people reported clearly hearing noises that must been the people trapped in the stranded sub trying to signal rescuers, etc,etc,.etc....
This whole drama was a distraction for Biden's sweet plea agreement for his crimes. They knew these people were all gone from the acoustic signature indicating an implosion at the time of communication loss.
As a radio frequency expert I can tell you that GPS as everyone knows it will not work underwater. The problem is that the GPS frequencies are much too high to penetrate the water from space. Need extremely low frequencies to get through the water instead. Do your research to understand how GPS works and how communications works underwater, it’s not as simple as you might expect.
So sad , imagine all the excitement on board turned so quickly into a tragedy!!!
Seek cheap thrills win cheap prizes.
“Hmmm this looks like it has a good chance of killing me…I think I’ll try it out anyway” - genius
My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of those who died in the sub.
What some rich crunts who have the blood of hundred of thousands of people on there Hands due to greed have your thoughts and prays. You do know you are a tard right? Did you give a fck about the 400 refguees that dies the same day it went missing who where escaping the mess in libya the yanks made? No you didnt because you are a typical fcking tard
BINGO
Absolutely. This is such a devastating tragedy
There is risk, calculated risk and stupidity. Take your pick where this event falls!
The latter (mixed with arrogance).
addicts make bad choices and dont consider the risks, they want their drug, this was their drug. facts/
Picking stupid...m
RIP to all souls.
Late Titan mini-sub developer, Stockton Rush previously commented on the staffing of his team and referred to his concern with other private mini-sub companies employing “white males, over 50, with a naval background”. He said he wanted to be “new and inspirational” in his recruitment approach - essentially by employing younger people and females into the development team. When it came to development and testing the vessel, he also wanted to do “something new” by using “approaches from aerospace industries…that are more aviation-related, rather than ocean-related.” Note, these are two completely different environments. Since the disaster, there is growing consensus that the vessel was made of materials and design elements inadequate for deep sea high compression conditions, thus, it eventually imploded violently. It was also alleged that one staff member who raised safety concerns was dismissed. Even the French "Mr Titanic", Nargeolet, who died in the vessel, had misgivings about it's safety, but still, his curiosity apparently outweighed his concerns. The outcome of this maverick and woke approach by Rush has been tragic. When it comes to safety, there is nothing to match tried and tested experience and wisdom…even if it comes from white males, over 50. To be "inspirational" by promoting diversity, inclusiveness and equality (ironically, DIE), at the expense of experience and wisdom encapsulates the utter madness of woke politics. The Titan sub implosion is a tragic example that points to a much wider issue of absurd woke politics, and we will find that, across the board, many industries will begin to "implode" as applicants are employed, not because they are the most qualified and experienced...not because they have great wisdom and a clear vision borne out of that experience. No, because they meet ridiculous diversity, inclusiveness and equality targets set by increasingly woke politicians. That means, on the basis of their age, their race and ethnicity, their gender, their sexual preferences, or preferred pronouns etc., they will be favoured over those who have put in the time and energy to be the most qualified and experienced to be able to do the job safely and effectively. The future is not bright... it is perilously dark. It's not comfortable...it's compressing in on all sides.
You understood the problems of this submersible, now learn about the meaning of "woke"
@@flybywire5866 - I have referred to "woke" issues in my comment. There is an element of "wokeness" in employing people to meet DIE targets at the expense of tried and tested experience.
@@RPM11111Resuming: go woke, go broke
It is possible and of course desirable to meet such targets without sacrificing quality and safety.
@@tamfuwing1 I disagree. There's a conflict of primary interests if DIE trumps actual qualifications, experience and wisdom.
May They All Rest In Peace 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 3:22
When the Titan went missing, P. H. Nargeolet was a grieving widower. His wife had passed. I can't believe they got this detail wrong. From what I understand, he loved her deeply.
This is so full of holes
this is so sad.... no wonder the french came as quickly as possible to help with the Search and rescue. this man still had a lot of years ahead of him... very healthy 77 year old man. all because of the ceo.. similar to the tragedy of the titanic.
I feel bad for the son.
@@familymatters8707 Also the french expert but he will win money, so the money won on the danger. He didn't trust this sub.
@@familymatters8707No , nothing wrong just passing away .
@@familymatters8707 Honrar a tu padre muriendo en una lata . A mí no me das clases de nada , y menos de lo espiritual , ya que sacas el tema el padre cargará con esa culpa las mil vidas que le quedan . Un saludo hippie .
They were reckless! They ignored major danger signs. One of them brought his son on board. There's a huge difference between calculated risk and un-calculated risk. It's called death. RIP.
"I'm not afraid to die, I think it will happen one day." Uhh, yeah. That's awfully profound there Nargeolet...
Your sense of humor is broken...
@@travisbrunner2922I don't think OP was trying to be funny...
@@pirategamer6630 but he did not understand that meaning!
Death was his permanent companion, as he said so himself.
We just put our lifes to a test by driving our car, we could not possibly understand!
@@travisbrunner2922 pretty sure that wasn't supposed to be humor, more like prophetic...and why do you have a dog in this race?? Are you somehow related to Nargeolet or do you work for Oceangate?? If not, why the negative Nancy attitude?? People don't need comment bodyguards or content censors... Remember opinions are like as$holes...
@@cjasonhendricks9722 What are you blathering on about exactly? We are all going to die someday, and I'm fairly certain that the dude understood as much...
From what I've read & heard the sub was an accident waiting to happen & should not have been allowed to be used. Put together with any old thing, condolences to the families 🙏
You don't know what you're talking about. It doesn't lack GPS. GPS and radio communication are useless underwater so it's impossible.
how do they communicate with the mother ship above?
It saddens me that whenever the elder deceased passengers are mentioned, a whole list of credentials, achievements and experiences are listed. But this will never be the case for the 19 year old son whose life was cut terribly short.
Stop whining for the 19 year old. Whine for all or none. All 5 signed the same waiver of liability.
All the 19 yr old was gonna do was wait till daddy died
Ah yes, tell us how a billionaire's spoiled brat woulda earned all these degrees and learned so much in his life.
You can’t save that boy from a nutty, reckless parent 😢
I'm French, living in France and never heard about the super hero before the accident.....
I would've saved myself $250k and watched the Titanic DVD...
Yes, you get a better view and you would still be alive.
Condolences to tge families of those who perished on the submersible ! God Bless you all ! Our prayers are with each of you !
THEY DID WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO, BUT DID NOT DO IT RIGHT. THE EQUIPMENT WAS UNACCEPTABLE.
ANY TIME you have strong feelings that are telling you not to do something. “ALWAYS PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE WARNINGS and CHANGE YOUR PLANS”. It is always better to stay safe-even if nothing happens--you never know if your presence would be the one thing that changes the outcome.
“MY MOST SINCERE and DEEPEST SYMPATHIES TO. THE FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO DIED AS WELL AS TO ALL WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE RESCUE MISSION”!
Hopefully things will be learned and regulations created to prevent this situation in the future..
You've got to admire what the company was trying to achieve. Drive down deep ocean exploration cost to advance human understanding of our least studied frontier.
I hope it doesn't negatively impact the spirit of exploration or ability of industry to create a deep blue revolution
May they live on forever in the memories of those who take the plunge
No. I don't admire this company. Shocking how little concern they had for safety, this was 100% preventable
What is to be gained? This is just games for rich people.
@@DavidNotSolomon Why is money all people think about?
The CEO said, it's not about money. It about breaking through the cost barrier to deep ocean exploration and inspiring a younger generation to take interest in our least explored frontier. If he wasn't down there, I might not believe him. He said "It's risky, it's experimental, it's pieced together".
I admire their spirit, their mission and bravery. I hope their names are immortalized forever like so many other great adventurers that paved the way with their own lives.
I see people curious about this. Asking questions, getting emotional. That's a good sign that someone will be inspired to ask why, see, and do better for all of mankind
@@danielmartin7838 'Breaking through the cost barrier' is by definition about money. What will be better for mankind is when people focus on their eternal salvation rather than worthless earthly pursuits.
@@DavidNotSolomon I'm aware of that, we disagree that it was ever about making it. Rush said "it was to bring down the cost, and inspire a new generation". Like some are doing with space. It doesn't seem I need to remind you that more people have been to space than that deep in the ocean. It's about interest, not difficulty. We can do it, we just need people to break through
When you think about it, so many people have now been down to see the Titanic it was just a matter of time before someone(s) died. 🤔
Don't blame the Titanic she's been RIP for 111 years.
Reduced to the molecular level, ironically, exactly how we emerged from the depths on this earth.
Rubbish. The theory of evolution explains only variation within a species - claims of new species being produced have even more evidence against them now than there was 100 years ago - go catch up on science.
When the hull is made from carbon fiber and some of the parts were bought from their local hardware store of course it's going to implode...out of all times for a billionaire to decide to be cheap it had to be for a expedition at the bottom of the sea .
You have literally no idea what you are talking about...
All correct, apart from pointing out that the sub had no GPS (min. 03:00). How would GPS work under water?! That was probably the ONLY thing that wouldn’t have made sense to install…
Nargeolet was so educated and experienced . What a great loss.
The other explorer also was well experienced.
I imagine so was the owner
The only two real “ tourists “ were
The Dad and son.
They all signed that consent they knew the risk was injury or death
Ya but the consent did not explain the many lapses of professional ethics employed by Ocean gate. All the big names such as NASA etc backtracked quickly on their supposed endorsement of the sub.
Dumb reporting:
The game controller is very high reliability.
You're not going to receive GPS under the surface.
If stuff seemed improvised, it's because it's a production run of 1 unit.
Would the reporter feel safer if he saw a Toyota dashboard and Honda fenders on the vessel?
That said, the risk items are the pressure barriers: the hull and the oversized window that was rated to only 1300 m
Toyota make reliable vehicles.. they should have let Toyota make the capsule for them..
Why on earth was it not required to have a becon or at least a lead line to locate them should anything ever go wrong like it did?
If it imploded I don’t think any of those would have helped much…
@@nathantudor5763 fair but if there was any warning signs before it happened maybe implosion could of been prevented by towing in or something. 🤷
@@Reverence561 unfortunately not. If it’s structure was in any way compromised, implosion and decompression happen in terms of less than a second, plus the unfeasibility of having a sufficiently sized cable for recovery from the depth it’s required to go to. I do believe there is some form of emergency ascent system that dumps ballast to quickly raise it, but again, in the case of loss of structural integrity, utterly useless as it happens so quickly.
So sorry for the families losses.
“I’m not afraid to die, I think it will happen one day”
Wtf is that, no kidding..
how do we know he really said THAT and not questioning the interpretaton of the journalist.
What Mr. Nargeolet did say and which I heard was, that death was allways his companion.
Having dived hundreds of times in deep see waters in over 50y in his profession, one should
be far away from painting him the villian in this case! Most of those writing here, would make
in their pants just to think about that, what this man has done, the titanic being just a small part
of it all!
Could we just let that ship RIP! Now 5 more people have died.
How can anyone say these 5 are "believed to be dead" THEY ARE DEAD geeeze.
Im guessing they expect them to have been abducted by aliens in a USO
GPS does not work below "periscope depth." On the surface, there was a support ship, down deep the Titan had to use other means of navigation, ... so, there was no need for GPS. Not having that is not a deficiency.
Submersibles have been diving deep for over sixty years without a fatality until this one.
Kursk.
I didn't hear "Mr. Titanic" say anything, I only heard the commentator say he said it 🤔
No governing body to make sure the Titan submersible was up to specs! Insane 😮
This is what everyone is saying. It was fine. Carbon fibre has come a long way in a short time. OceanGate had a flawless track record so let's not jump to conclusions. Honestly, would you rather go into the sea with something old like they were using 30 years ago or something new using new tech? I would trust OceanGate over anyone else.
@@beckydoesit9331nah, there were serious safety issues here. He seemed to relish in the fact that he was bending rules
I'm wondering why they didn't take pics of the debris.. They had the robot down there.. It's equipped with light and cameras.. It saw the alleged debris but didn't take any pics or vid?
@@beckydoesit9331
30 years ago, the air force was using the SR71 Blackbird.. To this day it is an engineering masterpiece and is still the fastest plane ever built.. We still haven't built anything that can beat it.. No country has..
@@gamingaccount9890 they were recording everything.
Heart Broken! People they left behind
Still, Paul is a Darwin award contender for getting on board this sub.
May they rest in peace 😢
I’m no expert, but I wouldn’t use that craft to cross the SF Bay!
It would have made a great mini van with 2 liter reliable Toyota engine with manual transmission
I’d take that bet, depending on what part of the bay you speak of. I’m in for south of Dumbarton.
“My heart will go on and on”
New Yorker article on this is excellent. And there’s a recent interview with Karl Stanley, at his home off the coast of Honduras. He’s a sub innovator, who knew Rush and has some insights that added to my understanding.
No-one certified this craft to be seaworthy at that depth, as I have now been told and investigated. Why on earth would people trust an unproven craft. My most heartfelt condolences to the family and friends who lost loved ones in this tragedy.
Unfortunately it was never certified
Even other specialists in the field wrote to Rush and his company with concerns over put6 others lives at risk
Wrong. Never certified. No one would certify it or insure it.
@@dextervonwhiplash1755 If it was not certified for seaworthiness, why was it used. Seems really illogical.
It was never certified!
They were fools & the "expert" men were irresponsible.
I find it hilarious that someone actually owns the rights to the Titanic.. I mean, it's literally trash at the bottom of the ocean. How does someone "claim it"?
salvage laws
American laws..
It's historic trash
" trash " ?