WAS RUBIN CARTER A MURDERER? | THE HURRICANE TAPES | The Process #12
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2019
- Rubin 'Hurricane' Carter was an American-Canadian middleweight boxer who was wrongfully convicted of murder and later released after spending almost 20 years in prison. He inspired Mohammed Ali and Bob Dylan to campaign for him in 1976 with Dylan recording the iconic song 'Hurricane'.
50 years on from Carter's conviction BBC World Service and Steve Crossman and Joel Hammer spent 18 months investigating a case that was never truly solved, after uncovering unheard tapes of Carter. The Series was called The Hurricane Tapes and you can listen to the series here: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13x...
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A huge thank you to the super talented and accommodating Steve Crossman and Joel Hammer. They showed a pure desire to make a series that was right, just and of incredible insight and entertainment. Sports journalism at it's very highest.
You work for the BBC uuugghhh
This is a great addition to the portfolio Jim, fantastic conversation🔥👏💖
Fascinating - I hope these two work out as good contacts for you James. You deserve it with work like this.
Great Bro! Loving the work and evolution of this thread. Respect from NZ
James is popping off rn
Both pods flying, appearances on the kickoff, vids for the premier league channel, and banging his own videos 👌
He isnt on The Kick Off anymore?
Always been interested in that case because of the song. Good vid James
Really enjoyed that. Great job as always!
I wish these were available on the podcast app, would love to listen to this whilst driving! Keep up the good work
This is excellent, James. You're evolving into a truly unique creator and providing some amazing variety.
That means the world bro. thats all I want. x
Ive been looking forward to this
Love to see you delving in to something different content wise, the quality is always the same though, class.
Thanks Rob xx
James Lawrence Allcott ur welcome babe
The Bob Dylan song was good but on the same album theres an evening better song called Black Diamond Bay. Check it out.
Love it mate!!
As Andy Townsend used to say whilst commentating on ITV " That's better!"
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I strive everyday to do what's right it's not easy. People get pressured in to doing wrong.
44:40 , those tough questions were not asked directly & should have been.
Was this because of a prior agreement?
Aye oooooo bell bell gang gang
gang gang gang
This was fucking ace. Can't wait to go listen to the tapes.
Thank you Dylan.
First time watching but glad you took the time
I don't really know him but I saw the movie he's before my time
See, already a lot of boo boo. “His Grandfather was a slave”. First off, I’m not sure if this is possible. When Carter was born, slavery had ended completely 72 years prior. So Carters Grandfather was at the youngest 72 when he was born (that’s a pretty old Grandfather) for him to have been a slave. It sounds more again like Carters words to garner sympathy for him. It’s also immediately putting the audience on your side for why your youth was so troubled. It’s simple, what year was his grandfather born, and what state? If he was born after 1865, then he wasn’t a slave in any state. Most states in the north had banned slavery years prior to that. Carter’s whole book was a white guilt roller coaster and he sets it up from the beginning and this man has taken the bait.
He was guilty
Really??? No evidence
Yeah, he didn't pull the trigger tho it was the other two.
He shot jfk
There was enough evidence. 2 trials. I Hispanic in 1st jury. 3 blacks on 2nd. I can go thru the evidence but I’ve grown apathetic
Artis is the man you should feel for.
He was guilty as fuck!
Exactly
so, did he or not
I'm on the fence with his innocence or guilt, the evidence is all pretty clear that he did do it. He failed a lie detector test & the two witnesses of the crime a mother & her son both identified Carter & Artis as the killers & both passed lie detectors tests about it. The murder weapons were in his car, eyewitnesses saw his car leaving the scene. It's a lot pointing towards his guilt. It's really a question of do you believe he was framed or not. He did have a violent past as a kid with robbing & stabbing people. It's very dense.
Iie detector tests are admissible in court for a reason. Just so you know
@@sjrilla3210 They are admissible in some states
@@sjrilla3210 no in most states they are not. However, they're very hard to fake and most people wouldn't know how to. The fact that everybody that took one had results towards his guilt says a lot. One test going in the state's favor maybe but four NO!
Based on the evidence, I feel he was guilty, but I can't say so beyond a reasonable doubt
I saw the Denzel movie that's how I got put on to this story. Great podcast if your interested in doing a podcast on the central park five I could give u some insight I've read countless articles watched all the documentaries on it, 5 innocent kids arrested for a rape violence crime they didn't commit and eventually found guilty, did many years for it until the real rapist was eventually caught.
You do know those five kids are as guilty as sin don't you? Maybe you only watch bias documentaries made by them themselves like that Netflix miniseries. As you know they were convicted of several other felonies they committed that night outside of the rape. Something to note the prosecutor made it known that none of those boys stuck their penises in that woman during trial. It was public knowledge that there was a six man. They were there and they took part. Some of the stuff they did was help hold her down, groper and dry hump her. Two of them admitted to these crimes before the police even knew there was a victim. Korey wise bragged about what he had done before he been arrested to friends. Those friends testified against him in court. They also testified against him when they sued the city. Their interrogations are on RUclips if you watch them you would know everything that many series said about the interrogations were a complete lie.
If these five were really innocent then why would the miniseries have to tell why after lie after lie? The truth will set you free.
One more thing to note prison records which you can look up for yourself show korey wise threatened Santana in prison and had a very bad track record. Santana had nothing to lose by saying he acted alone he was already serving life without the possibility of parole.
@@billmarshall268 lmfao
They were very much guilty. The evidence is out there. She was gang raped, the boys admitted they couldn't "get it up" to follow thru with it. Yet, another person's DNA being there exonerated them? They always knew that they only caught some of them and that some got away. Atheism Is Unstoppable did a great series on the central park 5. Check it out if you're interested
This is super interesting though I disagree that racism is worse today than the racism in the past. That is just a BS statement. Anyways thanks for sharing take care...
Big boxing fan and ex amateur boxer , love Rubin carter , I really hope he was innocent
Me 2 smokey mate do ya still do any boxing
@@Abra_cadabra1 I still hit the bag but I'm too old now 43
@@Abra_cadabra1 playing basketball again now rather than boxing , trying to get fit
@@smokey3570 cool man thanks for sharing yeah got back into boxing keep me fit again lockdowns put me off abit 43 not old man keep doin your thing brother
@@Abra_cadabra1 thanks man
for anyone that hasnt heard of this id advise you to watch "the hurricane" a great movie with denzel as the lead
The film is based on his book which is actually quite a different depiction of Rubin
Movie failed to have any of the actual facts in it.
Movie was pure fiction
@@billmarshall268 movie was a complete fabrication by the bleeding heart liberals of Hollywood that completely misrepresented the facts and left out key elements about Carters past as a thief and brutal killer.
@@trollgod7565 but that's what movies are all about
RUBIN CARTER WAS INNOCENT AND THE COPS WERE ROTTEN AND DIRTY TO THE CORE.
Wrong
Patricia Valentine disagrees
@lurksnitchtongue8986 well I saw you raping a 13 year old girl.
Oh hey, look at that, thank goodness we don't hinge our entire legal system primarily on "eye witness" testimony!
They got the right guy-2x.