MKP could fail us, hopefully it won't be so bad that when the citizens run out of political option, they wouldn't need another revolutionary to call the majority to picking up arms, coz of them losing the confidence.
If the MKP ground forces can just simply changed their mentality concept of only listening to Ubaba,they can work collectively with Floyd to make MKP thrive.
Afternoon King, thank you for this topic. I am of a different view. Yes, some ppl only love and listen to Baba. This is a very crucial reason why all inductions should include JZ. This is the time when JZ must launch Floyd and tell these ppl that they must respect and listen to Floyd and other leaders bcos he, JZ will not live forever. JZ must assure those ppl that what the leaders/commanders are saying has his blessing whether JZ is present or absent. It is imperative that JZ articulates these things. Anyway, all political fans follow individuals. My generation and those before me followed the ANC bcos of Madiba. We did so even when Madiba was no more. Hence the ANC got power-drunk and misused that power.
King I hear where you coming from and in as much as I understand where Floyd is coming,talking from history, I think Floyd took a right decision to take JZ with for his first round of visiting Provinces that in future he can quote inorder to let the members to digest the message he is passing through, so from my side it is a strategic way that the members must fall for the message he is sending.
@@Fbafrican there is no animosity between the two. I think their mature enough to understand that the left block is the priority. Julius will not have chest pains if Floyd should eventually become president. The end in much bigger than that
The biggest betrayer of south African masses is Julius, he first convinces south Africans that he has Thier interest after that he betrays them by pushing the interest of foreigners
WHEN I SEE FLOYD OR I HEAR ABOUT HIM, AUTOMATICALLY I SEE BLAISE COMPAORE, HOW HE BETRAYED THOMAS SANKARA, I SEE MOBUTU, THE WAY HE BETRAYED LUMUMBA, MR JOHN FROM GHANA HOW HE BETRAYED nKWAME NKRUMAH, CHRIS HANI AND THE LIST CONTINUE... FLOYD REPRESENT DISUNITY. I DONT EVEN WANT TO SEE HIM PREACHING ANYTHING ABOUT BLACK UNITY OR TALK ABOUT PAN AFRIKANISM. HE MUST LEAVE US (BLACKS) ALONE.
Fana Mokoena said it straight that nobody was betrayed and they're not here to nurse Malema's ego and can't stay in a toxic environment the reason they left
Very few people will follow the leaders who insult and disrespect members and rivals.Many are dying from bad mouthing characterizing insulting rivals instead of inviting voters . Keeping on thinking negatively about your rivals wont make voters support those who you think they are behaving the way you prefer because they also have their choices .Rememeber two wrongs will never make right.
No the EFF actually represents policies though, policies which persist regardless of personalities. There are also parties in countries across the world that are EFF equivalent parties. The EFF has a context globally and nationally which is more than I can say for MK.
MKP constitution was just clarifying that about the final word in deployment that must be made by Jacob Zuma. Duduzile is already in high ranking position doing what nobody knows. The second to follow is Duduzane taking over from Jacob Zuma and Zuma will introduced and gradually make Duduzane fit while he's still alife.
Good point from Floyd to respect everyone.We want a progressive forces to unite all but the very same ppl from MKP took EFF members to join them. No progressive forces can unite while others took other political parties members.
@@nkanyisoshabalala7540 means that our cde who are coming and join MKP are better than the other cde who are already busy campaign for MKP before the election are not good enough to lead party.Thatsway they left other parties to join MKP and lead MKP in Parliament left those one who started the MKP.
The only problem I have is when people are following leaders not policies. What will happen when he’s gone “God Forbid I’m not saying he will leave “. It will be difficult for Floyd to do his job if people only listen to Baba.
Mk are the anc people who are for old corrupted Zuma. These people really Jacob Zuma, family, friends and followers 😢. Power to the eff and all Africans against corruption and puppet leaders. BLACK AFRICAN UNITY
President need to come up with a strategy cz there is no one's man party and people need to be matured. If that perception is not attended soon will put the party into disrepute
What l applauded Floyd so much is him explaining the isultive part of their constitution. Maybe it clearly repremanding most of the MKP members who in most of the time being isultive in engaments
Am I the only one who feels like Floyed has lost political something, something that Zuma was talking about since he joined the MKP...? Without JZ I doubt MKP will survive just my honest opinion... Otherwise lets build PASETA... BLAQ HEART clothing approved 🖤 🇿🇦
@@aarongunnz9513 problem is you are undermining the MKP but watch the space, what it did in 6 months outweighs all the political parties in the history of South African politics, nw thats a fact and not a speculation that you making.
Ka SEPEDI bare motxaba pula ochabela mahlorohlorong ... we believed that his departure was about lack of authority in EFF so now he still not able to organize without Zuma there is a clear contradiction there
@@Fbafrican you must be kidding me. Why is he not arrested? There was 700 odd charges against him. My brother, by now you should know that the judiciary is being used to eliminate political opponents. Name a single person should was been convicted and is doing crime for state capture, for instance.
EFF do not need MKP....We are a better party.We cant be led by an old man .We have our own talent.Those who are willing to leave EFF,they are free to go..Will never run out of good leaders.
That's your analysis, "Umkhonto we Sizwe " not for KZN only but for RSA,ANC,EFF, including INKATHA they're having sleepless nights since MKP, was formed nationally, ask Mbalula that 😂
Hi King I fully agree with Floyd. The current problem is that Blacks have denounced their culture of Ubuntu. Firstly, whereas we had extended families where uMkhulu ruled the entire family and subsequently uGogo when Mkhulu is no more, today the old people get sent to old age institutions. Secondly, when the Brittish colonised our country, the first strategy was to capture Kings which they realised were the people the communities listened to. This is the same strategy of Afriforum in shamelessly capturing the Zulu monarchy, King Misuzulu. Upon realising that Bab'Mslolozi can't be everywhere all the time , he must call an Imbizo of Amakhosi to accompany Floyd as he criss-cross the outskirts of the country. Lastly, the Communication Dept of MK must work hard to relate such visits in the language that people will understand i.e on radio other than on social media only. Laho sesophuma ngezinkani nesinedolo sobakhona. VIVA MK VIVA SEKUSEDUZE !!!
No King...This is what is expected when you are building a solid foundation....konke kuhamba ngo line nothing wrong to have the head come and rubber stamp things as he slowly relinquish the power because there's those chancers who will come take chances so they must understand the authority. Floyd is doing very well, grounding is very important....Respect is pivotal....problem with EFF is that, this is missing because they don't respect CIC because of how he addresses issues and his deminer...so abantwana needs to learn from the elders hayi lendaba ye EFF....
We need to understand one thing here. Zuma is still the president of MK Party. He must go around and educate people about the the constitution of the organization and deal with questions that might arises from the process.
That is not the job of the president but the job of the education team if they have. Then when they see Zuma as the president they can ask what ever they want to ask
Just like the ANC of Mandela. We Africans need to find ourselves with all other africans. MK is for Africans by Africans. Mkhulu J Zuma, is a person with impact and it's what he did during HIV pandemic in south Africa, and still does to the Africans.
Which country are you from...I am sure , you not South African. Imagine Americans, using your term . South Africa is for all South Africans. SOUTH AFRICA has a large population of none African, almost 35 % I last checked with large numbers of Whites....Coloured....Asians.
Happy Sunday to you and your family our Leader God Bless you 🙏🏾. My brother anytime Floyd speaks he makes me laugh. Floyd forgot we were seeing his behaviour in the EFF for years , his disrespect , his disruption , his anarchy etc . How many times they turned his microphone off and dragged him out of parliament? 😂😂😂. Why didn’t he learn respect then and behave like an adult?!!! As for Jacob Zuma he will not change his ways now. Not in his 80s!!! He is dealing with Floyd but blinded Floyd cannot see it yet…. Floyd frustrated Zuma towards the end in parliament ; it was not just Julius and others !!! Zuma will not forgave and forget. So he went for Floyd first because he knows he cannot touch Julius Malema. His plan is to bring down the EFF and let Floyd watch it while being an MKP member….. No worries Floyd will get his own dose of his own medicine from Zuma. After being used to set up branches and offices etc. In the MKP Floyd already has lots of ENEMIES he just doesn’t know it yet!! We are here our brother King when the heavy rain begins to fall!!!!
King, we've been betrayed for the longest time now. we trust Zuma because we have seen him work during his tenure. Let us listen to Zuma while he's alive, I know for sure he will leave us with a succession plan.
What happened in Zuma's tenure?? I love Zuma but I feel he had an opportunity but chose his previous party's sellout attitude while he was on the driving seat to bring back what belongs to black Africans, failed Zimbabwe and even aloud them to go down while we could have helped them during his tenure..We must stop relying on old people they got political freedom can we get economic freedom without them
@@bongani2281 Me also especially when it comes to economic transformation i do not trust Zuma 100%. See even the land policy he is not straight because he said he will take land and give to the King. So if you ask him land he will refer you to the King and not take responsibility to make sure people have land. How is he even going to implement something like that.
G afternoon king. I have always asked the questions that people are joining MKP or joining the party for JZ, because this means without Ubaba ,there wont be MKP this is cause to worry
King, for the sake of setting the ground for Shivambu, i think it is good that JZ goes with him in all those inductions khona ezobatshela ukuthi failure to listen to Shivambu will amount to disciplinary and firing
The party is literally less than a year old but they expect it to be on autopilot already. That's why I prefer the party with so called "tainted leaders", as they've made their mistakes and have been through the fire, now they have a point to prove, while Malema's people still take their cues from ANC cadres for how a politician behaves. Revolutionaries are now scared when an actual revolution is upon us, kanti what were they doing all this time?
@@Mondli2890 Truth hurts fighters, but you have to deal with it in a mature and dignified manner before you chase away remaining and future supporters.
King I think we need to study more about cultural intelligence, some cultures and clans always need someone to Lead them and it becomes difficult if there's no leadership. I think it good that Jacob Zuma gives powers to Floyd in front of everyone and that will make it easy for Floyd to command respect.
Please, can Paseta also include studies in governance at all levels, local, provincial and national. We need to groom leaders in all areas in this school. This is my prayer.
King, I assure you that there are many EFF supporters who will lose interest if CIC Malema was no longer around. I think Floyd was saying that because it is a new party with many new members and new leaders, the people who don't know all these new people because they don't follow politics nonstop might need to hear from Msholozi at this stage. I don't think what he said necessarily means that there is no MKP without Zuma.
Hi King what you are saying is true. I think the issue of people saying they can only hear from Baba might be people who left EFF because of some of the policies of the EFF that are similar to MK and people can say these things are coming from Floyd and that they do not think Baba can accept. An example is the policy on Pan Africanism and the integration of Africa.
King Remember we still need to induct to say we speak from the same place, but once we all have the same page no one can infiltrate the movement. after six years and we still have this then it would be a concern.
King, may we always keep in mind that MK is a new kid, Right now, everyone is learning how to take this organization forward. Nxamalala is the face of this org but these are teaching moments. Please cool down with you analysis, MK is not even a year.
King I have two very vibrant girls 11 & 14, the have some level of insight even it's very limited. But my point to would be when they get to the voting age they are well prepared and understand why it's important to vote and why choose a specific party
We must know that God always call one man to lead not structures. Go through History, there is nothing wrong that Zuma Leads MKP as appointed to lead. The time will come for others to lead.
Damn, I've been saying the same for months now, and it's been uttered by Floyd; it's not MK but the Zuma party and his the dictator of it; when he dies, his daughter will try but will never succeed. From there on in, the party will fall apart.
@@fego2361 the same in EFF Floyd had no future we can clearly see that Malema is also personalising EFF, he promised to step down if the EFF declines. Every where where there's people there's problem. Insulting and blaming people is childish, leadership must just do introspection and take responsibility
Hi King those big names like Thomas Sankara, Steve Biko etc are the names that you cannot study African politics without analyzing the Philosophy of these African political giants. It also helps to encourage and motivate us as Africans
For me, the command structure was a catalyst for order, in preparation for the time when Mr President is no more. I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong. If you look at it closely, the party is in the process of administering the order. Floyd is, in a way, teaching political maturity among members, which is key. Charity begins at home! Ubaba is not doing party addresses, and that means something.
Guys ... As a sensible human being ... youth category of 14 - 35 years is not about what you do or can do even can not do ... but is a legal international standards by law frame ... and changing it to suit own individual narratives is very much unlawful and confusing ... Maybe individuals should always follow standard laws ... but not laws to follow individuals ... WAKE-SA ...
Umzabalazo ngowabantu oMsholozi nabo Mandela no Mbeki abaholi bethu Zinjiva i like what Zuma did, should he leave us in the near future at least he would have re aligned us towards total economic lebaration That course will never be void of leadership,rest assured bo Floyd and bo Ndlela and the least is endless
I think the main idea is make people believe that Jacob Zuma is going to be present during the meetings,so that people can attend hoping that they can have a chance to see him. spirits of Zuma is just like a magnet 🤔
King look my son Zuma his teaching the youth how to handle the struggle, and I'm happy because they learn from him infact they respect him so that they will gain the knowledge from him
Angimuzwa uFloyd guys, uMsholozi ufuna ukuthi abantu aqonde ukuthi uma amaLeaders eMK ekhuluma akhuluma ngezinto zeMK and decisions That taken by leadership collectively. So ubaba will be there ukwenza abantu balalele amaLeaders not everytime ukuthi ubaba uthi.
Let Africans open their minds people who are on Floyd must be those who are against the MKP why people focusing in things that can't help us. South Africans are still building the party keep quiet since we want numbers . There are people who are really confusing our party we are not DA or GNU BECAREFULO bashobantu
On the point of people who want to hear from Baba only, I think from the foundation point of view let them be given the opportunity but work on how are they going to solve the weakness . I agree with you that if it is left without being aliened with normal circumstances.
King did Floyd respect Zuma when he was a EFF... People can forget so quickly..... He was telling Zuma where to get off today he is taking about respect shame 😂😂😂
I dont agree with those who think Mkp will end when ZUMA is not there, because if that is the case;Why did the ANC not end when their founders like Luthuli died.For me, what destroy organization is the way leaders treat members of his or their organizations. People watch and listen to the leaders who disrepect,insult and bad mouthing who ever is against their opinions.
King you have to give MKP it's flowers here Floyd announcing this is the first step of trying to fix this problem, and we appreciate that Zuma is going to be part of the induction MKP doesn't want what happened to Khumalo to happen again hence Zuma is now fixing his pawns Just like how the ceo of a national or international would travel to all branches of that particular company mostly to meet employees and introduce the exec Indeed Floyd is a great organizer His skills will ensure that the MKP strives even when Zuma is in the background Let's not undermine Floyd's work like the Eff of Julius did In fact Floyd must organize all these other parties Floyd is something else and I'm happy that Zuma will accompany him to these inductions, this shows how Zuma respects Floyd and his organizing skills
Zuma is unnoticingly putting Shivambo on a very comfortable path to curve his future after his death,he will not lead the mk but form his own party and a massive exodus from the mk will follow him and another strong rival will emerge,Shivambo will refuse to live under another shadow again,l,m telling you that he will be more popular and this platform is his trump card
Zuma must be there to explain to people on how he came to form mk otherwise shivambo can't speak on behalf of Zuma ezinye izinto zidinga umnikazi wazo exactly a person who felt that level of pain. Zuma always say he is building anc yakwa gogo so it is highly impossible that shivambo can talk about those complex issues zidinga u Zuma nqo ayochaza nge mk initially inorder to open the ground for shivambo. Otherwise shivambo might end up in trouble for example Zuma is the one who can tell those who are still confused about mk flag that anc is still claiming today only Zuma who can talk about this without any issue and shivambo never went to exile while u Zuma uyiqala lapho I concrete ye party
I like the way you encourage Pan Africanism about playing the ball not the man. Agreeing with Zozo Mathebula, this is a new baby. People must learn what politics is. For him to go to provinces to ensure that Floyd is introduced and trusted. People love to hear JZ. He (JZ) must in his teachings and speeches ensure that he build Floyd but not Floyd. In fact, I believe MK must have a TV station where JZ himself will impart the knowledge he has with other Africans. He is the only person I believe he understand politics better.
The only problem is the English that Floyd is speaking otherwise we would also love to listen to him but it's difficult sometimes especially for us Zulus
Even at work if you are still new in industry your initial presentation you would like to have your senior/boss to be with you to emphasis and backup whatever needed. Remember msholozi is the only person who can talk openly about the history of South Africa and what went wrong and Zuma can mention people s name like he is brave enough to mention ramaphosa s wrong doing where shivambo will not be able to do that. Remember mk isaphemba kwezinye indawo abanye are happy to see Zuma in person endlala nge history ye politics. Shivambo ngeke akwazi ukukhuluma openly with new people even about how land were stolen. I think that is how I understand nengane uma uyifundisa ukucathula awuyidedeli ihambe yodwa but uba seduze nayo as support
King I think there's no future in MKP for Floyd
Im afraid Floyd's future is blurry on MK and this thing of expelling certain members based on assumptions contaminates the MK
MKP could fail us, hopefully it won't be so bad that when the citizens run out of political option, they wouldn't need another revolutionary to call the majority to picking up arms, coz of them losing the confidence.
If the MKP ground forces can just simply changed their mentality concept of only listening to Ubaba,they can work collectively with Floyd to make MKP thrive.
Is what you think. You you yes you. And i also think that Zuma i grooming him to lead MK in future
Afternoon King, thank you for this topic. I am of a different view. Yes, some ppl only love and listen to Baba. This is a very crucial reason why all inductions should include JZ. This is the time when JZ must launch Floyd and tell these ppl that they must respect and listen to Floyd and other leaders bcos he, JZ will not live forever. JZ must assure those ppl that what the leaders/commanders are saying has his blessing whether JZ is present or absent. It is imperative that JZ articulates these things. Anyway, all political fans follow individuals. My generation and those before me followed the ANC bcos of Madiba. We did so even when Madiba was no more. Hence the ANC got power-drunk and misused that power.
Well articulated
King I hear where you coming from and in as much as I understand where Floyd is coming,talking from history, I think Floyd took a right decision to take JZ with for his first round of visiting Provinces that in future he can quote inorder to let the members to digest the message he is passing through, so from my side it is a strategic way that the members must fall for the message he is sending.
King coming to Respect, I call it our African Culture.
Powerful words
Zuma should say everything. 😢 that's what Floyd is against . You only prove the point that mk is Zuma people.
Floyd didn't know what he was signing on to when he betrayed Mr Malema and the eff. Power to the eff. BLACK AFRICAN UNITY
@@Fbafrican there is no animosity between the two. I think their mature enough to understand that the left block is the priority. Julius will not have chest pains if Floyd should eventually become president. The end in much bigger than that
The biggest betrayer of south African masses is Julius, he first convinces south Africans that he has Thier interest after that he betrays them by pushing the interest of foreigners
WHEN I SEE FLOYD OR I HEAR ABOUT HIM, AUTOMATICALLY I SEE BLAISE COMPAORE, HOW HE BETRAYED THOMAS SANKARA, I SEE MOBUTU, THE WAY HE BETRAYED LUMUMBA, MR JOHN FROM GHANA HOW HE BETRAYED nKWAME NKRUMAH, CHRIS HANI AND THE LIST CONTINUE... FLOYD REPRESENT DISUNITY. I DONT EVEN WANT TO SEE HIM PREACHING ANYTHING ABOUT BLACK UNITY OR TALK ABOUT PAN AFRIKANISM. HE MUST LEAVE US (BLACKS) ALONE.
@@sindiswasizane344 My man wow you understand the MKP fully my guy, let them talk
Fana Mokoena said it straight that nobody was betrayed and they're not here to nurse Malema's ego and can't stay in a toxic environment the reason they left
Very few people will follow the leaders who insult and disrespect members and rivals.Many are dying from bad mouthing characterizing insulting rivals instead of inviting voters . Keeping on thinking negatively about your rivals wont make voters support those who you think they are behaving the way you prefer because they also have their choices .Rememeber two wrongs will never make right.
MK party is strictly for Zuma family and its allies
MK is sanctuary of looters and crooks
LIER BABA MEDIA THINKING GUY LOL
You assume but once you play role or part and parcel of MK I will agree
Ama'nga ke lawo.... Respect hle
MK is Zuma
Zuma is MK
Without Zuma, there's no MK
Are you also saying there will be no EFF after JUJU😮
@@ThamiMngadi yes
Unfortunately it is starting to fall
No the EFF actually represents policies though, policies which persist regardless of personalities. There are also parties in countries across the world that are EFF equivalent parties. The EFF has a context globally and nationally which is more than I can say for MK.
@@Starting_anew yeah, they have policies but it is already dying
@@aarongunnz9513 Ideas do not die. Don’t put too much stock in the gossip column of who’s in or out. A good idea given time will come.
Lol unfortunately this is a true definition of a cult authoritarian party. My fear is that without Zuma MK might turn very violent
Duduzane will be the president of MK very soon
Facts 😂😂😂
MKP constitution was just clarifying that about the final word in deployment that must be made by Jacob Zuma. Duduzile is already in high ranking position doing what nobody knows. The second to follow is Duduzane taking over from Jacob Zuma and Zuma will introduced and gradually make Duduzane fit while he's still alife.
Let's me inform you Duduzani une party yakhe, but don't feel offended i know is what you think
Good point from Floyd to respect everyone.We want a progressive forces to unite all but the very same ppl from MKP took EFF members to join them. No progressive forces can unite while others took other political parties members.
AGREED WITH YOU
But they had a freedom of choice…no one forced them at gunpoint to join MKP
@@nkanyisoshabalala7540 Yes
Progressive alliance is tearing apart. Zuma is killing it by poaching members of EFF and ANC And IFP
@@nkanyisoshabalala7540 means that our cde who are coming and join MKP are better than the other cde who are already busy campaign for MKP before the election are not good enough to lead party.Thatsway they left other parties to join MKP and lead MKP in Parliament left those one who started the MKP.
The only problem I have is when people are following leaders not policies. What will happen when he’s gone “God Forbid I’m not saying he will leave “. It will be difficult for Floyd to do his job if people only listen to Baba.
That's what we said when madiba left
@@VictorShongwe-eh3scnever, which people, if you said OR I was gonna agree with you
True
MK is Zuma
Zuma is MK
Without Zuma there's no MK
This is the real cult movement.
100%
MK is family business
Floyd think Kzn is Giyani uzuphuma nge reverse
There’s definitely an EFF beyond Cic.. any body who is in Authority we respect
I agree with you my dear 🔥👌🤞🏾nice to see you this side ey😊
@@bonganinkomo5438❤we speak the same language so you will always find me in these channels
EFF will die without Malema
Lair@@sibongisenikhumalo8198
If it was someone they would say the person is a dictator so what's happening here
Mk are the anc people who are for old corrupted Zuma. These people really Jacob Zuma, family, friends and followers 😢. Power to the eff and all Africans against corruption and puppet leaders. BLACK AFRICAN UNITY
President need to come up with a strategy cz there is no one's man party and people need to be matured. If that perception is not attended soon will put the party into disrepute
THERE IS NOTHING THAT FLOYD CAN LECTURE US TODAY. HE MUST REMAIN SILENT AND DRINK IT PEACEFULLY
Thank u
Why ?
Why ! By the way ,he is Floyd .
They will kick him out of MKP if he becomes silent and he has just arrived.
You are not a Pan Africanist my bro leastening is a skill
Umalema is a dictator heeeeeh
If mkp members listen to Zuma, then it is not good news, the man is old. What will happen to mkp when the old men is no more
Prince Mashele said that, when Zuma departs MK will fall
What l applauded Floyd so much is him explaining the isultive part of their constitution. Maybe it clearly repremanding most of the MKP members who in most of the time being isultive in engaments
Am I the only one who feels like Floyed has lost political something, something that Zuma was talking about since he joined the MKP...? Without JZ I doubt MKP will survive just my honest opinion... Otherwise lets build PASETA... BLAQ HEART clothing approved 🖤 🇿🇦
The problem is that they crafted their constitution around uBaba. He is an absolute leader
A dictatorship
@@aarongunnz9513 problem is you are undermining the MKP but watch the space, what it did in 6 months outweighs all the political parties in the history of South African politics, nw thats a fact and not a speculation that you making.
@@LouisMkhize alright
2029 MK won't get more than 15% national and they won't get 45% at KZN.
@@aarongunnz9513 Are u 100% sure about that...
@@LouisMkhize I can bet with last R2000
No MKp won't survive a bit. The sad thing is the man is old he can leave us at any given time.
MKP thinks floyd might work against him
Every party has its own problem and it's not easy to educate people to understand how it's important to unite and and to work together
🗣️🎙️Yeiiiiish wena😳. That's like the CEO hiring a Director and manager but only wants to do those jobs himself, away kunzima eze power😅😅😅.
Very true
MKP will only survive less than 10 years from thee down turn
Ka SEPEDI bare motxaba pula ochabela mahlorohlorong ... we believed that his departure was about lack of authority in EFF so now he still not able to organize without Zuma there is a clear contradiction there
The MK will be with us for a very long time....watch the space
Zuma can be arrested for corruption and time 😢, he still under the anc and DA
@@Fbafrican you must be kidding me. Why is he not arrested? There was 700 odd charges against him.
My brother, by now you should know that the judiciary is being used to eliminate political opponents.
Name a single person should was been convicted and is doing crime for state capture, for instance.
@@sindiswasizane344 Zuma would tel you yo loot and burn South African. Rhamoposa is still not charge because he do the same.
It's true what Floyd says we must respect each other
I doubt MK wants to unite with EFF they are busy poaching from the EFF what kind of approach towards unity is that?
EFF do not need MKP....We are a better party.We cant be led by an old man .We have our own talent.Those who are willing to leave EFF,they are free to go..Will never run out of good leaders.
True. Floyd is not Zulu... Right now this seems to be a kzn party...
Same thinking here
That's your analysis, "Umkhonto we Sizwe " not for KZN only but for RSA,ANC,EFF, including INKATHA they're having sleepless nights since MKP, was formed nationally, ask Mbalula that 😂
@@ThamiMngadido think MK will represent all black interest?
mkhonto is official opposition national not Kzn only...wake up
@@Mgazi-c5s so what does that mean, they'll rule soon?
Hi King I fully agree with Floyd. The current problem is that Blacks have denounced their culture of Ubuntu. Firstly, whereas we had extended families where uMkhulu ruled the entire family and subsequently uGogo when Mkhulu is no more, today the old people get sent to old age institutions. Secondly, when the Brittish colonised our country, the first strategy was to capture Kings which they realised were the people the communities listened to. This is the same strategy of Afriforum in shamelessly capturing the Zulu monarchy, King Misuzulu. Upon realising that Bab'Mslolozi can't be everywhere all the time , he must call an Imbizo of Amakhosi to accompany Floyd as he criss-cross the outskirts of the country. Lastly, the Communication Dept of MK must work hard to relate such visits in the language that people will understand i.e on radio other than on social media only. Laho sesophuma ngezinkani nesinedolo sobakhona. VIVA MK VIVA SEKUSEDUZE !!!
They need to build a strong communication strategy
@@lesleyngcobo1353 Ubuntu? But you are shouting VIVA MK VIVA?!! YOU ARE THE PROBLEM WE HAVE!!
They don't like him at the party. He came straight and got deployed and lived them without being deployed in the field.
I once said so of that question they blocked my Twitter account. There's no existence beyond him
One-centre-of-power...
Stokvel political party... Abo Floyd sebe defend uzuma😮😅
Does mbalula make mo sense under directorship of Godzilla
MK is sanctuary of looters and crooks. Remember Floyd had hand in VBS, so he gotta join an organization that will protect him from Hawks and NPA
@@VictorShongwe-eh3scif I was Mbalula, I was gonna join MK
I like it when he cry so early
No King...This is what is expected when you are building a solid foundation....konke kuhamba ngo line nothing wrong to have the head come and rubber stamp things as he slowly relinquish the power because there's those chancers who will come take chances so they must understand the authority. Floyd is doing very well, grounding is very important....Respect is pivotal....problem with EFF is that, this is missing because they don't respect CIC because of how he addresses issues and his deminer...so abantwana needs to learn from the elders hayi lendaba ye EFF....
We need to understand one thing here. Zuma is still the president of MK Party. He must go around and educate people about the the constitution of the organization and deal with questions that might arises from the process.
That is not the job of the president but the job of the education team if they have. Then when they see Zuma as the president they can ask what ever they want to ask
MK followers are not educated. Therefore there's no use
Just like the ANC of Mandela. We Africans need to find ourselves with all other africans. MK is for Africans by Africans. Mkhulu J Zuma, is a person with impact and it's what he did during HIV pandemic in south Africa, and still does to the Africans.
Which country are you from...I am sure , you not South African. Imagine Americans, using your term . South Africa is for all South Africans. SOUTH AFRICA has a large population of none African, almost 35 % I last checked with large numbers of Whites....Coloured....Asians.
And shower?
King pls every time u speak about the school pls show the bank detail or have them permanently in your platform
Thanku King for being a good teacher mayGod bless u
Happy Sunday to you and your family our Leader God Bless you 🙏🏾. My brother anytime Floyd speaks he makes me laugh. Floyd forgot we were seeing his behaviour in the EFF for years , his disrespect , his disruption , his anarchy etc . How many times they turned his microphone off and dragged him out of parliament? 😂😂😂. Why didn’t he learn respect then and behave like an adult?!!! As for Jacob Zuma he will not change his ways now. Not in his 80s!!! He is dealing with Floyd but blinded Floyd cannot see it yet…. Floyd frustrated Zuma towards the end in parliament ; it was not just Julius and others !!! Zuma will not forgave and forget. So he went for Floyd first because he knows he cannot touch Julius Malema. His plan is to bring down the EFF and let Floyd watch it while being an MKP member….. No worries Floyd will get his own dose of his own medicine from Zuma. After being used to set up branches and offices etc. In the MKP Floyd already has lots of ENEMIES he just doesn’t know it yet!! We are here our brother King when the heavy rain begins to fall!!!!
TRUE. For Floyd to mention something like that means that he knows things are not done in a professional manner
Wake up, you're sleeping....
@@sifisomthethwa3775 You should stay ASLEEP FOREVER!!!!
I love that any leader before adress to the nation must be aproved by the Head .nothing wrong .can do anything you want .I see MK P has principles
King, we've been betrayed for the longest time now. we trust Zuma because we have seen him work during his tenure. Let us listen to Zuma while he's alive, I know for sure he will leave us with a succession plan.
What happened in Zuma's tenure?? I love Zuma but I feel he had an opportunity but chose his previous party's sellout attitude while he was on the driving seat to bring back what belongs to black Africans, failed Zimbabwe and even aloud them to go down while we could have helped them during his tenure..We must stop relying on old people they got political freedom can we get economic freedom without them
@@bongani2281I fully agree with you,don't forget what happened to Brother Leader Gaddafi and he was part of that decision
He was a terrible president that madala even he had two heads
@@bongani2281 Me also especially when it comes to economic transformation i do not trust Zuma 100%. See even the land policy he is not straight because he said he will take land and give to the King. So if you ask him land he will refer you to the King and not take responsibility to make sure people have land. How is he even going to implement something like that.
The succession plan is Duduzane
G afternoon king. I have always asked the questions that people are joining MKP or joining the party for JZ, because this means without Ubaba ,there wont be MKP this is cause to worry
Zuma is MK
MK is Zuma
The same question we can ask about EFF, is there EFF beyond Malema???
@@Thobiliwasir1871 I believe the is. If he dies. But if he moves to another party the is absolutely no chance eff would survive that
King, for the sake of setting the ground for Shivambu, i think it is good that JZ goes with him in all those inductions khona ezobatshela ukuthi failure to listen to Shivambu will amount to disciplinary and firing
The party is literally less than a year old but they expect it to be on autopilot already. That's why I prefer the party with so called "tainted leaders", as they've made their mistakes and have been through the fire, now they have a point to prove, while Malema's people still take their cues from ANC cadres for how a politician behaves. Revolutionaries are now scared when an actual revolution is upon us, kanti what were they doing all this time?
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@@Mondli2890 Truth hurts fighters, but you have to deal with it in a mature and dignified manner before you chase away remaining and future supporters.
I think Mr shibambu is lost i will suggest if he go back to eff, at mk party he can't make it thank you
Baba he made a blunder...and he is getting exposed
As time goes by they will be calling him lishangane
Floyd is already replaced at EFF
❤❤❤We lov Floyd and Baba Zuma. MKP wil lead us in 2029❤🎉
@@philanimhlongo6654 MKP is the party of the future, and 🖤 people need to unite.
Remember Cyril is not 🖤
I don't see that happening
Uyaphupha manje loko akuyoze kwenteke.
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@@sibongisenikhumalo8198😂😂😂is a fact
It will exist after him but when he's still hear they'll only care about what he only has to say
King I think we need to study more about cultural intelligence, some cultures and clans always need someone to Lead them and it becomes difficult if there's no leadership. I think it good that Jacob Zuma gives powers to Floyd in front of everyone and that will make it easy for Floyd to command respect.
what powers....he is just being used to write a constitution and other documents
We fail Zuma... We don't wanna do that anymore ❤
Please, can Paseta also include studies in governance at all levels, local, provincial and national. We need to groom leaders in all areas in this school. This is my prayer.
Thank you King
King, I assure you that there are many EFF supporters who will lose interest if CIC Malema was no longer around. I think Floyd was saying that because it is a new party with many new members and new leaders, the people who don't know all these new people because they don't follow politics nonstop might need to hear from Msholozi at this stage. I don't think what he said necessarily means that there is no MKP without Zuma.
Hi King what you are saying is true. I think the issue of people saying they can only hear from Baba might be people who left EFF because of some of the policies of the EFF that are similar to MK and people can say these things are coming from Floyd and that they do not think Baba can accept. An example is the policy on Pan Africanism and the integration of Africa.
King Remember we still need to induct to say we speak from the same place, but once we all have the same page no one can infiltrate the movement. after six years and we still have this then it would be a concern.
It won't see the light in government...
I feel your pain with regard to iSilo,even though it is in consistent with his father's attitude towards the Afriforum nothing new.
King, may we always keep in mind that MK is a new kid,
Right now, everyone is learning how to take this organization forward. Nxamalala is the face of this org but these are teaching moments.
Please cool down with you analysis, MK is not even a year.
But King,I fail to understand the role of any president for any organization?
Same applies to eff. People will not listen to any leader if it's not malema
But now Julius is young not 83 years 😂
@@gpmjozi706I agree, but the same guy says he won't be challenged
King
I have two very vibrant girls 11 & 14, the have some level of insight even it's very limited. But my point to would be when they get to the voting age they are well prepared and understand why it's important to vote and why choose a specific party
We must know that God always call one man to lead not structures. Go through History, there is nothing wrong that Zuma Leads MKP as appointed to lead. The time will come for others to lead.
Damn, I've been saying the same for months now, and it's been uttered by Floyd; it's not MK but the Zuma party and his the dictator of it; when he dies, his daughter will try but will never succeed. From there on in, the party will fall apart.
@@fego2361 the same in EFF Floyd had no future we can clearly see that Malema is also personalising EFF, he promised to step down if the EFF declines. Every where where there's people there's problem. Insulting and blaming people is childish, leadership must just do introspection and take responsibility
@@Thobiliwasir1871 100% brother
Ngokubuka kwami kusahamba nomkhakaso
Why are people discussing the aftermath of someone's life especially when they not even related to him
You must remember that Floyd is new on the MKP and he knows that people like Zuma so he is trying by all means to be seen close to Jacob Zuma
Hi King those big names like Thomas Sankara, Steve Biko etc are the names that you cannot study African politics without analyzing the Philosophy of these African political giants. It also helps to encourage and motivate us as Africans
For me, the command structure was a catalyst for order, in preparation for the time when Mr President is no more.
I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong. If you look at it closely, the party is in the process of administering the order.
Floyd is, in a way, teaching political maturity among members, which is key.
Charity begins at home!
Ubaba is not doing party addresses, and that means something.
Guys ... As a sensible human being ... youth category of 14 - 35 years is not about what you do or can do even can not do ... but is a legal international standards by law frame ... and changing it to suit own individual narratives is very much unlawful and confusing ...
Maybe individuals should always follow standard laws ... but not laws to follow individuals ...
WAKE-SA ...
🤣🤣🤣🤣nihluswa ukungaziluto valani umlomo nibukele i T.V umkhonto wesizwe akuwona oka Zuma owesizwe lizobuya lelizwe noma engasekho uZuma viva M.K.P viva 🖤🖤💚💚🖤🖤💚💚🇿🇦✊🏻
Kamuzu banda of Malawi ruled until he was 99 years let's not write off Zuma yet we're not God log live Zuma ❤
King leave our king out of your pocket
Umzabalazo ngowabantu oMsholozi nabo Mandela no Mbeki abaholi bethu
Zinjiva i like what Zuma did, should he leave us in the near future at least he would have re aligned us towards total economic lebaration
That course will never be void of leadership,rest assured bo Floyd and bo Ndlela and the least is endless
I think the main idea is make people believe that Jacob Zuma is going to be present during the meetings,so that people can attend hoping that they can have a chance to see him. spirits of Zuma is just like a magnet 🤔
King look my son Zuma his teaching the youth how to handle the struggle, and I'm happy because they learn from him infact they respect him so that they will gain the knowledge from him
Angimuzwa uFloyd guys, uMsholozi ufuna ukuthi abantu aqonde ukuthi uma amaLeaders eMK ekhuluma akhuluma ngezinto zeMK and decisions That taken by leadership collectively. So ubaba will be there ukwenza abantu balalele amaLeaders not everytime ukuthi ubaba uthi.
U baba is everything the i fiil sorry for shivambu shame he doesn't use to that
Remember, this is Zuma party. Zuma is there to give a tune...
Since this guy left EFF he lost confidence ,who can trust Floyd ?
It's me
Let Africans open their minds people who are on Floyd must be those who are against the MKP why people focusing in things that can't help us. South Africans are still building the party keep quiet since we want numbers . There are people who are really confusing our party we are not DA or GNU BECAREFULO bashobantu
On the point of people who want to hear from Baba only, I think from the foundation point of view let them be given the opportunity but work on how are they going to solve the weakness . I agree with you that if it is left without being aliened with normal circumstances.
Floyd l fill sorry for you ngenye imini uzoku bona uzuma uyakusenzisa boy 😅
My king the future for MK ll decide when president zuma is gone by now we waiting and
King did Floyd respect Zuma when he was a EFF... People can forget so quickly..... He was telling Zuma where to get off today he is taking about respect shame 😂😂😂
Is there any trustworthy politician in ur view...
@@LouisMkhize noon
@@SylviaHlavangwana It all about positions and power.
I dont agree with those who think Mkp will end when ZUMA is not there, because if that is the case;Why did the ANC not end when their founders like Luthuli died.For me, what destroy organization is the way leaders treat members of his or their organizations.
People watch and listen to the leaders who disrepect,insult and bad mouthing who ever is against their opinions.
Because ANC had plenty good leaders, but MKP members joined JZ not MK
I said it from the beginning that MK is not for you Floyd,you should have gone back to ANC
Soon they will be calling him lishangane
Yena aya kwihi kasi Floyd 😂😂😂😂
Heyi udoti i feel sorry for us
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I think president Zuma should encourage and promote Floyd to MKP member..give confidence
@@nomthandazonhlapo3723 yes. And tell people that they must trust what Floyd says
King you have to give MKP it's flowers here
Floyd announcing this is the first step of trying to fix this problem, and we appreciate that Zuma is going to be part of the induction
MKP doesn't want what happened to Khumalo to happen again hence Zuma is now fixing his pawns
Just like how the ceo of a national or international would travel to all branches of that particular company mostly to meet employees and introduce the exec
Indeed Floyd is a great organizer
His skills will ensure that the MKP strives even when Zuma is in the background
Let's not undermine Floyd's work like the Eff of Julius did
In fact Floyd must organize all these other parties
Floyd is something else and I'm happy that Zuma will accompany him to these inductions, this shows how Zuma respects Floyd and his organizing skills
HE WAS A VICE PRESIDENT, THEN LEFT AND GO WHERE?.
At EFF he was under terrible dictator now at MK he is under sweet dictator
@@aarongunnz9513 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
@@houseofimhotepcentre that sweet dictator will chew him like chappies and spit em when chappies runs out of sugar
Zuma is unnoticingly putting Shivambo on a very comfortable path to curve his future after his death,he will not lead the mk but form his own party and a massive exodus from the mk will follow him and another strong rival will emerge,Shivambo will refuse to live under another shadow again,l,m telling you that he will be more popular and this platform is his trump card
Zuma must be there to explain to people on how he came to form mk otherwise shivambo can't speak on behalf of Zuma ezinye izinto zidinga umnikazi wazo exactly a person who felt that level of pain. Zuma always say he is building anc yakwa gogo so it is highly impossible that shivambo can talk about those complex issues zidinga u Zuma nqo ayochaza nge mk initially inorder to open the ground for shivambo. Otherwise shivambo might end up in trouble for example Zuma is the one who can tell those who are still confused about mk flag that anc is still claiming today only Zuma who can talk about this without any issue and shivambo never went to exile while u Zuma uyiqala lapho I concrete ye party
I like the way you encourage Pan Africanism about playing the ball not the man. Agreeing with Zozo Mathebula, this is a new baby. People must learn what politics is. For him to go to provinces to ensure that Floyd is introduced and trusted. People love to hear JZ. He (JZ) must in his teachings and speeches ensure that he build Floyd but not Floyd. In fact, I believe MK must have a TV station where JZ himself will impart the knowledge he has with other Africans. He is the only person I believe he understand politics better.
The only problem is the English that Floyd is speaking otherwise we would also love to listen to him but it's difficult sometimes especially for us Zulus
So what of Zuma daughter because she also cannot speak Zulu?
Floyd sounds like Zimbabwean
@@kfutuahnkain86she speaks model c English
My King from the ELDERS there is WISDOM,from people like the ones Floyd have mentioned
Even at work if you are still new in industry your initial presentation you would like to have your senior/boss to be with you to emphasis and backup whatever needed. Remember msholozi is the only person who can talk openly about the history of South Africa and what went wrong and Zuma can mention people s name like he is brave enough to mention ramaphosa s wrong doing where shivambo will not be able to do that. Remember mk isaphemba kwezinye indawo abanye are happy to see Zuma in person endlala nge history ye politics. Shivambo ngeke akwazi ukukhuluma openly with new people even about how land were stolen. I think that is how I understand nengane uma uyifundisa ukucathula awuyidedeli ihambe yodwa but uba seduze nayo as support
Sorry i have seen them on the screen but pls put them on your platform