It's worse than I thought... Demolishing My Old Shop
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2023
- I’m starting to make this old shop into my dream shop and it starts with ripping everything out!
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Turn the door into a work table top, maybe even on wheels!
Might want to save the door to put on a finishing booth. Keeping dust out of finish work in a shop is a challenge.
It’s metal, wonder if it’d contribute to static problems ??
Unfortunately as a sliding door it's not sealed
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Good point! And weather stripping usually works poorly on sliding doors. Will you have a finishing room?
You could seal on the walls around the door. Look up walk in coolers that sometimes have similar doors and how they seal.
@@Fixthisbuildthat With a suitable application of Pool Noodles, it could be!
My only major shop regret is not having a bathroom. Even with the house bing 25ft away it's a distraction that always leads to productivity loss.
Elevator door idea: make a cool sliding tool wall to double the wall space storage. Could keep shallow items behind it, turn it into cool feature. 💪🏼
ohh, i like that, Travis.
You got me with the deer ghost in the first video. I'm onto you now though! Save that door and turn it into a sliding wall for tool storage!
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Dude, make a lifting elevator workbench with that door!!!
Can you make a welding table with the elevator door? Keep up the great work, love the new shop space.
ohhhhhhhh, I like that
Not being a shop person, I was just going to suggest 'a table of sorts' but I like your specific suggestion.
Yeah I was gonna say that door would be a great bench top. Didn't even think about a welding station. That would be an awesome use.
Needs to be raw steel for a welding table. Couldn't tell for sure, but it can't be stainless either. You also really want fixturing holes for clamps and stops and such.
That is the 1st thing I thought of... you beat me to the punch.
Your finding the nails AND screws together in the shelf supports & cabinet reminds me of when my brother & I cleared out/opened up the inside of our 2-car garage to make it into a woodshop. There was a loft towards the back at one side (the removal of said space hog was kind of what prompted me to start that project) & a small corridor behind that running the width of the garage. As we removed stuff, we found 2 especially weird things. One was a random stair stringer fastened to the back wall up towards the roof. The other was the backing board that apparently went to a science fair project by the previous owner's daughter - making up part of the back corridor wall. My brother joked that, when the previous owner had the garage built, he just told the builders to use whatever was left over from the house. LOL The former owner also loved his nails. While we did have to leave part of the back corridor dividing wall up to house the circuit breaker box, everything else came out. My only regret now, as I try to attach things to the walls that have to go into studs, is that we used OSB instead of plywood or sheetrock. The good news is that the OSB is only on the back area walls. The side walls have sheetrock, so it's not as big a hassle to find studs. But the OSB really doesn't want to hold screwed-in items like hooks, & it is very difficult to find studs behind it. But whatever.... I did get a few chuckles, kind of at your expense, during this video, though, Brad. I always love your sense of humor. I look forward to seeing what you do with the space. Hope you have an awesome day!
That dear literally scared me bruh😂😂
Save the door and make a secret entrance like fingerprint sliding door
Make a spray booth / finishing room that you access via the elevator door.
Or a separate little room for your dust collection.
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You might want to bleach and treat the metal walls before putting up new walls. This will prevent mold and rust from building up over time. Also, a mold resistant paint on the inside will further protect it from the elements and time. Given how much mold was in the walls, you probably want to give the metal walls a good cleaning before proceeding. That will make it not a health risk down the line. Build looks great!
If you're after mold prevention, hydrogen peroxide is used in professional mold remediation. Bleach won't actually get all the different molds.
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turn the elevator door in to a big cabinet door to store any paint or other flammable products
oh I like that idea. But dang that thing is heavy. I'd have to bolt it to the wall to open the doors, lol.
@@Fixthisbuildthat you could attach some heavy duty shelving to the side of the cabinet, that way you can keep it as a sliding door. Also later on if you want to get fancy with you could get some elevator buttons and a electric motor to open and close the door
I have a central tool island with table saw and out feed table and to the right side, bandsaw, jointer and planer. Even in a larger shop it's a good idea to consolidate space where possible and since all these tools are often used together, having them all together is really efficient.
Because of the varying heights and feed directions, none of the infeed outfeed areas interfere with each other, I've got an easy 8'+ feed for each tool, the planer gets the outfeed table to feed onto and you can drop electric in and dust in one spot, down the center of the dead area of the island. Additionally the dead space of each tool, right side of table saw, back of jointer, left side of bandsaw and planer, all fit up against each other.
One other tip is to have at least one rolling cart. It's great for moving stacks of parts around a larger space and to use as a "table" virtually anywhere. For example I use a cart to wheel parts over to my planer. The parts then stack up on the outfeed table and then go back on the cart to for the next pass through.
Elevator door would make a good bench top.
I also recommend using double duplex outlets (4) with each side of the box on a different circuit. That way you have two outlets right next to each other that are on different circuits and you could run two high draw items in the same area at the same time without any worries.
Personally I went with external conduit. I ran it above counter height and down one side of the ceiling with a few branches to the other side. I had the conduit oversized in case I need additional wire later. It's a clean install, I don't mind looking at it and it's a lot easier to make changes.
yeah, love that idea of two circuts close to each other
Install a small washroom into the shop so you can clean your hands and never get “caught short”, and you can use the elevator door on there 😉
I reckon you should mount that door up on the wall like some fellers mount deer heads.
Thanks for the great videos!
More electrical power. Once the walls are up it gets harder. More light for old eyes. And I wish it was twice as big.
always wish it was bigger :)
If you are going to make it bigger, do it now. While you have a blank slate. I didn't look too closely at the layout. Do you have room to add 20 feet to the back? I think it went up a slope behind the building Doesn't it?
Dude! That elevator door makes a great work bench. I have one of the 30" wide doors someone gave me. Stainless steel top, mount to the 4x6's in the pole barn, I can bounce a transmission off of it without it even moving, then wipe it down with Windex and it's perfectly clean. I'm only at 11:08 in the video right now, so maybe you've decided to keep it. Hopefully so!
could be a great metalworking bench!
Best shop upgrades that were worth time and money
- dust collection system (game changer)
- compressed air distribution piping
- speaker system with powerful amp
- high storage bin shelving for long term storage items with shock cord to protect from earthquakes
- air conditioning
That door would make a good workbench top.
Don’t forget, when you’re doing the layout, the hot tub goes in corner nearest the hot water heater.
Once upon a time that office was somebody’s pride and joy.
For the door- mount it on the wall as a rolling magnetic white board for projects
like that!
Keep the door. Make a work surface for a CNC router!
List of things I would have if I had a shop that size.
1. Air everywhere, every tool station should have close access to dry high pressure air.
2. properly piped dust collection.
3. Proper miter station (But I don't need to tell you that).
4. 110 plugs everywhere and at least 4 220 receptacles.
5. a proper 5x10 CNC from Avid CNC with a tool changer.
6. Proper wood storage for at least 10 sheets of Baltic Birch and all the rest of the cut offs.
7. a proper office that is completely sealed off from the shop so I can have computers, 3D Printers and all my soldering stuff without getting sawdust on or in everything.
8. Large Roll up door for materials and rolling out bigger builds.
9. HVAC so I can work year round.
ventilation system.
11. lots and lots of rolling storage.
12. Nice big work and assembly table on wheels that can double as a outfeed table.
13. Tons more but I have to get back to the shop 😉
Least it wasnt Bud Light 😂
ouch
You could use the door as a sliding tool storage wall. Have more tools on a fixed wall behind and the tools on the door can slide out of the way.
For the hole in the wall, is where I would put an exhaust fan in for the paint room. A small restroom where the plumbing is.
Holy crap Brad (figuratively AND literally)! That was So. Much. Work. Thanks for taking us along for the journey. So excited for you to have this new, much larger space.
For that door, ideas:
1) make it an underbase for a tabletop of some sort (metal on bottom, wood on top, screwed from the bottom. Gives extreme rigidity/durability
2) Get a cutting torch to cut out custom reinforcing brackets, triangles, etc.
3) Swap this out with some local fab shop in exchange for some service. They might want to use the door as is, as a door, or cut it up like in #2.
4) Get into welding and doghole the heck out of this as a base for your new DIY welding table. Take that, Fireball Tool!
5) Recycle it. Iron is cheap, but that's a lot of weight so you'll still get something like $10-20 for it.
6) Weld or bolt up sections to make weights to use as glue clamps. Way cheaper than buying dumbbells or kettlebells.
7) Turn into a horizontal entry door for your root cellar, since at your new place you will be growing all your own food.
8) Use the door as is as the key feature for your panic room to prepare for the zombie apocalypse, round #2 of covid, or when the in-laws come over.
9) Climate-proof yourself as you carve a tornado shelter into your shop floor. Just install that man slab onto some rollers over your panic cave and you're good to go.
That steel door would make an awesome top for a welders table.
Crazy shop rebuild suggestion: raised floors. I know, I know, sounds stupid/crazy, but you can tuck all the electrical underneath and have outlets right at the tools without any wires hanging down. Make it tall enough, and you can do your air handling ducts as well (I hate hate hate working over my head). AND, it gives you a thermal barrier off that concrete. AND! If you have a wood floor, it can be more forgiving to your knees and lower back than standing on concrete all the time. Plus, you can stash your empty beer cases in there.
That elevator door could make a good work bench
Best tip is exposed EMT conduit. Easy to put up, easy to modify, easy to take down. You don't have to cut holes in your walls which saves time and is more energy efficient.
I'm wondering if the previous owner is watching these videos.
As for my shop organization opinions: I also have a sink in my shop and it's been WONDERFUL. Even things like cleaning glue off my hands without tracking sawdust into the house has been very useful. Definitely keep that! Sans the deer guts. I also ran electrical from two separate breakers to various points around the shop, which has been very handy. I assume you're planning to insulate; that looks like it would turn into an oven in the summer. I imagine you're already well aware of that.
As for the door - do you do much welding? That might be a good top for a welding table. Or if you shoot, or have any buddies that shoot, they might make it into a target. I'm not sure how well that particular type of metal would work but I know some guys that love shooting at metal targets. Ooor you could just follow your wife's suggestion.
yes, insulation is the next step. It's ROASTING in there and I'm glad it's September not July
We just bought a house with a barn and I CANNOT wait to start planning out the new shop. So happy for you and look forward to watching the progress!
Make some kind or storage space with that door. For like paint and other flammable stuff.
For the elevator door. Use it to mount commonly used tools. Have it on a slide along the wall so you can move it around to where you are working.
Damn... I literally jumped in my seat when you slid open the back window! 😄
Elevator Door: I'm guesing versions of "making it into a table" have been said, but what i suggested is make 2 box frames for legs. In one box frame will be a counter weight (can be fake the table will be heavily enough) then from the weight under the door to the other side to the box frame leg are wire cables suspected on pullies. Normal Elevators have on average 7 cables but you can choose the count of back and forths. To double explain just in case, one side of the lefts is a weight suspected by multiple back and forths of a cord that runs the top length of the table under the elevator door top and looping on a set of pullies. Hope you like the idea.
You can use the door for tops to shop furniture (outfield table, chopsaw table.... etc)
Build a finishing room to put the elevator door on. You could even have a vent from that room to the outside to help with fumes.
The elevator door would make a great workbench top for a welding table or metal working area of the shop!
+1 for welding table!
Elevator door would make a fantastic desk top or work surface
Oh there are so many solutions and many good suggestions here. Work flow, storage options, organization that you have taught many of us. Electrical layout: when I started putting together my small stand alone shop. Plenty of available amps, sufficient circuits. I wired in 4 20 amp circuits one for each wall with outlets every 6ft. Better option have different circuits on every other outlet. Same number but adds wire. Many more thoughts but enough for post
The fridge & freezer tops look like they need some love. If you hadn't filmed them rolling out on the dolly we'd never have known. 😂
Elevator door idea: use it flat, as a storage shelf, hanging from the ceiling joists with chains in the four corners.
Good luck dude! We’re all excited to see how it turns out
Yeah
thank you!
Best CD ever!
Use the old sliding door and track as a backer for a sliding storage wall / tool wall.
i love how he seems to save so much of the stuff he is taking out demolishing. True recyling and probably saving on money. So many people tend to just throw away and go at demolishion with a hammer
That metal desk is cool. You should keep it and repaint it. I bet that it will last forever.
it's very rusted...don't think I'm up for the work to bring it back
That white lithium grease from WD-40 is incredible. I greased my garage door and it went from a loud mess to whisper quiet.
door would make a good solid table
It was great watching tear down the OSB; lumber; and tearing out the old insulation!
I cannot wait to see you finish up and start building out the new shop building!
Well done!
My suggestion is since you got Plumbing. Put a Restroom if not a full Bathroom. Complete with Shower. This will not only come in more handy than you think. But a YT series on a Shop Bathroom.
Metal door idea: buy a plasma cutter, some grinders, and a mig welder. Turn it in to a smooth metal chair that will "decorate" a corner. It'll be your shop throne.
A heavy door like that would make a heck of a workbench top, especially if you do any kind of welding work, that would be an awesome welders bench top, guarantee you could sell it for good money
Looking great! I remember when you left your day job and went full time! Cant believe how far you've come! Cant wait to see what you do with the new shop!
thank you!!!
I'm currently trying to rebuild an old workshop so I'm very interested in how this turns out. Thanks for sharing the journey with us.
Build a room for your air compressors / dust collection and use the elevator door for the door
Compressed air, electrical,and vacuum system. My top 3 when starting a new shop! Brad, these just keep getting better and better!
Turn the door into a worktable top, maybe even on wheels!
I’m planning many circuits for light and heat, several 110 circuits for tools and battery tenders, and two or three 220 circuits for my big guns: table saw, compressor and welders. Also planning on “attic” storage and air line drops. I’ll add a short dust collection line as well.
Make a secret room with that door.
be super cool to put a french cleat system on the elevator door to hold all the less commonly used shop items and have it tuck behind a cabinet or just to simply use as a door on a tool cabinet
Seeing this shop project reminds me Jay Bates Garage Project. Along with the locations of equipment and his dust collection system, ergonomically, spaced and bundled tools reference electrical source and dust collection ducking. I would insulate the walls with Spray Foam and face off the footing with block or brick then use the upper portion of that cavity chase for electrical, plumbing, dust collection. Obviously LED Lights and some type of over head storage loft. Don’t forget the AC Unit. Good Luck I’m sure it will nothing less than impressive when your done. If you get a small tractor don’t forget the fork lift arms so you can move pallets of material around.
Nice video! You made me jump when you opened the processing window and the deer head screamed! 😂😂😂 Well played, Sir. Well played.
Hey Brad - I'm envious of all that space you have now! A shop is never big enough! LOL Your enthusiasm & excitement are quite evident and it's a pleasure to watch! I appreciate you sharing the journey!
Ventilation and dust management will be critical. But, am thinking you're likely already on that. :)
@14:08 - proper PPE for the WIN!! :)
@ 16:45 - back to PPE: you might want to invest in some steel-shanked safety shoes! You don't want a puncture wound from THOSE nails/screws! :)
I counted 2 ghosts and one deer spirit! :)
looks like it's going to be a great series.....looking forward to watching you build it out
Sheet steel door would make a good work table topper. It's huge and you could weld on it too
Use that door to make a steel bench top. Welding, beating, whatever.
Since you are going to build out and insulate the interior of the shop you consider using spray foam, there are form insulation that act as a vapor barrier as well as resistant to mold and mildew
Very, very cool. Really looking forward to watching along as you set up your new shop 😀😀😀
Fantastic video but boy was I gla that it was you, and not me, who did the dirty work! Brave man!
it was a LOT more than I had bargained for
The door would make an awesome Mt Dew vault !
best idea yet! 😂
Make a small room at the back of the shop with steel and add the door. Now you have a safe room/ gun safe. Perfect.
it would make a great wielding bench
That's a really nice space indeed, Brad! Fantastic work! 😃
Looking forward to the next steps!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
thanks, MC!
Elevator door for a dust collector/compressor closet. So block some noise and have a cool door
Paint and plan prior to starting :D
I can't wait for this renovation series. I've been watching your content for a while now, and I'm excited for this next chapter. Keep up the great work. You can always turn that elevator door into a peg board, with about a million holes.
Elevator door with your logo etched, painted on it would be great for a backdrop in your videos.
The elevator door would make a great flat top for an assembly bench.
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Eff you for that jump scare with the deer after removing that sliding panel! Almost crapped my pants.
That elevator door: Either use it as an assembly table top, or paint it with whiteboard paint and mount it to the wall as a sketch/magnetic project planning board.
You need a dust collection room, that elevator door would be perfect for it.
The ghost of the deer at 3:22 gave me a chuckle :)
Save that elevator door and use it to connect your side storage area to the main shop. Would be great to easily move bulk goods in and out.
Congratulations Brad, you've worked really hard to get where you are!
Elevator door can be your door for your office in the new shop
I felt that “surprises” comment… we bought a house 2 months ago the ago.. I been working g on things here and there I started on the bathroom and wanted to talk out the old caulk around the tub/shower and replace it with new silicone.. well then I noticed drywall crumbling down into the tub from behind the surround so I pulled down the surround found a bunch of mold continuing on busted up the old tub and there was standing water under it.. 🤦🏽♀️ needless to say I now have had to start rebuilding all of my bathroom.. that was supposed to be a project for next year.
I feel your history of moves is sorta like The Jeffersons and their 'Movin' on up to a penthouse in the sky' theme. You are out of the basements and into a grand place. Very nice.
As I mentioned in another comment (the one about making a welding table with the elevator door), I am not a shop person, so as a general suggestion for your shop's layout, think about your biggest piece of equipment you're going to keep in there or maybe the largest size of material you plan to work on, and find spots for those 2 things. Just as planning for a pool table isn't just about the size of the table, but also the needed space around it, you want to have the ability to play a game of pool without bumping into walls.
I know you know this, but, here's a good rule for all things: 6 P's, or Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance. Ok, now back to the rest of the video.
So with all the walls coming down, I was kinda expecting a Buster Keaton-like stunt as he did in Steamboat Bill, Jr.
Also, very nice touch at the end after you told us about the CD.
You could use the elevator door as a secondary entrance from the breezeway. Instead of fixing the cutout you could frame another door and use the elevator door as the actual door and security door?
that steel elevator door looks like it would make a great work surface (or two)
You can make the elevator door a desk or a workshop table. Good luck on the journey.
thank you!
These shop layout ideas make this the most interesting vid ever on your site. "You should think bigger with the design of your shop" and the very first thing you need is a huge sliding table saw in the middle of the room. "You need a sponsor" with Altendorf USA or another brand that produces a 7.5 hp, full sliding table saw with a 14 in. blade plus scoring blade. You would like the tools with control tech computers on you fences but they are fine without as well. The sliding saw can come with dust collection bags that sit by the saw. Your existing saw will become an extra tool on the floor that you will use for other cutting for sure. If you don't have a nice saw in a year or so you will totally regret not moving forward on this !! You have room for a tool like this. You will need a few assembly benches. A small spray booth would be nice, with double doors that you can roll larger items in and out -- you will need a good fan hood to pull air out of this room. You should start a new thread to deal with your shop design. Best of luck.
unexpected things happen-- had a water leak under our trailer house --OH!! 2 leaks--- shut the water off!! OOH!! the valve is stuck and rusted --- after 4 - 45 mile trips to the nearest hardware store open on a weekend i have the leaks fixed now just have to work on the damage done!!! good work, have fun and enjoy your new home!!!!!!!!
When you build your walls, be sure to put Tyvek or something similar on the backside of the wall to prevent moisture passage from the steel thru to your new walls. I would also remove the flat 2x4s and just frame your new 2x4 walls on top of the concrete knee wall. It will basically make your shop 8" wider as well as youll have something that cant be damaged as concrete > any sheathing or drywall.