I think another huge part of it is that The Weeknd isn’t just an actor on the show, he co-created it. He had a huge say in what happened during the show and a lot of the scenes he was evolved in. It isn’t like he just accepted the gig and didn’t know what it was about until it was too late. He’s very obviously proud of this
Abel was the co-creator, writer, and executive producer along with being one of the starring actors. he was heavily involved in the making of this show.
the unintentional kind of repulsed, to be more exact. like, the book lolita took me MONTHS to finish because a sentence would get me horrified and would make me just slam the book closed, but it was the purpose of it. this show is supposed to be some "edgy britney-like popstar suffering" stuff but instead of making you pause because you're in shock, you pause because you cant believe that is an actual thing.
These people have room temperature IQ, they don’t do any research. The Weekend fired the original female director on The Idol and replaced her with Sam Levinson. 😂 He said that the female director put too much “female perceptive” in the show. Dude brought all the drama on to himself, he fully deserves it and beyond. 😂
Yup. He literally wrote himself to touch Lily it’s so obvious. He also brought in San so that he could get more screen time and fired the original director
Had The Weeknd kept the original director who’s not known for sexualizing characters that are minors as well as stay behind the scenes as a writer, this show could’ve actually had big potential. Instead he chose his ego and screen time above actual substance & became the same thing they were trying to exploit
Yea. It was so disgusting seeing a woman portraying a minor girl running around the entire house butt naked. I don’t care what anybody says. This show said alot about Sam and Abel.
@@daisykisses8803I think it was supposed to be disgusting though. Like showing people that this happens irl. Making people aware how terrible the industry is and what it's like.
@@fg4462 exactly. People think celebs are saints bc they put a mask on red carpet...i ve heard so many stories like bad stories, that industry and its puppets are evil
The Idol could've been great and Emmy worthy IF IT ACTUALLY WAS about the struggles and the dark sides of being a female entertainer in the music industry. But no, it became another one of Sam Levinson's wet dreams. Abel's character was totally pointless and added nothing to the story, combined with his bad acting. The Idol was an ego project from Abel and I wish they went through with the original concept of the show. Also, Lily-Rose Depp actually surprised me with how good her performances were during the entire show.
Exactly. The show has good bones - the story is there. A cult leader recruits a real "catch" - someone famous - but it turns out the whole industry is a cult that none of them can escape. But cult leaders are supposed to be charismatic, the industry is supposed to be enticing (at least initially), and this show has none of that. It's like the show wasn't written for anyone but them. Since Sam and Abel are industry insiders, it's like they assumed their viewpoint would be instantly translated without needing to flesh out the story or the characters. Like they could take a bunch of shortcuts because people would "just get it" without needing to show us. It's not a good sign when most watchers are saying "Why would you do that?" or "What was the point of that?" or "I don't caaaare", lol. And this is why people need writer's rooms, lol.
it kinda funny how the bad parts of the show you can easily tell it came from the sam levinson type euphoria writing and the good parts of the show you could tell that it came from what the show originally was supposed to be before sam levinson hopped onto it.
The problem is that this character he helped create and chose to act has tainted his image. After so many years of just letting his music speak for itself and being very elusive when it came to interviews, it really wasn't a good idea to choose this project as the first step into becoming more public. Of course people are going to relate him to his character now. Should've done a documentary of his life as an artist, not this shit.
💯💯💯 I’m glad Abel decided to be more open and public in his persona, but this show is a bad way to do that. And it leads people to assume that’s how he really is. When none of us know him, the person.
I’m sorry but I think you’re having trouble deciphering reality, and fiction. Yes The Weeknd helped create, and bring Tidros to life in the writing room, and PLAYING THE PART OF THE CHARACTER, but he is not tidros. Tidros does not exist. The only way this should smear his image is showing that he’s bad at writing for television, or maybe he was so good at his performance he made you believe he was Tidros. Either way it’s just a tv series.
@@renanphillips1479 The "Reality vs Fiction" argument does not help here, and it's a very tiring argument. It's obvious that this show is a way for The Weeknd and Sam to play out their fucked up fantasies. The red flags were in the music, and now he is in a show writing and playing into the red flags. These shows do affect reality whether you like it or not. It's trauma porn. It's sexulizing women who struggle with mental health. Many people struggle with what the main character goes through and to potray it in such a disgusting manner does cause real harm.
the weeknd literally destroyed the show. there were moments when i was watching and was truly captivated by the scene in front of me (the ones with lily rose depp). they were all the moments when i forgot the weeknd was even in the show. the show had potential, and it frustrates me that we never got to see that potential because of him.
His performance in the show is the perfect example of what happens when a celebrity assumes that acting is easy. Bro probably hasn’t been in a play since the 3rd grade, but thinks he can hop into naturalistic acting 😭
@@karinamanenche3930 what do you mean? a lot of people have issues with the sexualization of teenagers in euphoria, people haven't been quiet about it either lol
I wish you would have talked more about why people are so upset. It's not just because it's super sexually gruesome. The Weekend removed the importance of a female perspective in the show's creation. Also, spoilers for anyone who wants to watch it, but the ending is supposedly the realization that the female character was manipulative and not the victim. This story has no weight at best and at worse shows what happens when two men try to speak of the abuse of women. It's icky, and his defensiveness comes off as arrogant and misogynistic.
@@UncleT525 There is no reason a show that touches on these topics shouldn't have a women involved. As in a women being in the creation processes saying, " yes this is the best and realistic way to handle these topics of abuse that women go through." If it was done on purpose than its just two men creating a show that uses the sexulization of women in the industry to be "edgy and hot".
@@godsofmonsters7267 Why the hell a woman who has never been in that situation as a pop star should be better? Because she has boobs? That’s kinda ridiculous IMO . Hire goof writers. Plus Amy was just the director, not the writer
The end when we saw who the "victim" was, Tedro's (the male), while the female "victim" (Jocelyn) "lied" about everything (her mom beating her with a brush) made me really think about the entire show. Especially what we could've seen with the original storyline IF the female director stayed. It was about abuse of women in the industry and a relationship, now it seems she was the bad guy all along and he really cared. This show feels like a new form of defending abuse towards women.
Also, I keep asking this question: If, all along, Joss was lying about being abused, what about that big dinner scene where both Leia and Xander acknowledge that they witnessed the abuse and knew about the abuse for YEARS. That was a big moment, actually. So, it literally makes no sense. Leia and Xander weren’t lying about it. So, how is this show trying to convince us that Joss was never abused and she was the “bad guy” all along? Huh?!?
@iamcasihart i think Lea and Xander knew that she was lying. Remember the scene where they shocked Xander with the shock collar because he kept saying that Jocelyn has been lying about all of it and she is now also manipulating Tedro. But since Jocelyn said Xander was lying, he kept getting shocked until he gave up and said he actually was lying. And for Lea, she always seemed uneasy and wanted to talk to Jocelyn about something but we never know so it might’ve been about all this manipulation situation.
Abel deleting the tweets he made belittling others for responding to the show was uncalled for. I thought he wanted people to be repulsed by his character?
he wants to people to be disgusted with his character but praise his acting I guess 😂 he really believed he gave an Emmy worthy performance, the ego this man has...
@@marilyndoll2929y’all will pull excuses out of your asses at this point😭 wtf does Amber Heard have to do with this. Abel made a dumbass call and is getting the ultimate dumbass treatment. He was a dumbass and people are calling him a dumbass. You can’t put that much sex in a show about women’s pain in the music industry and expect women to be fucking comfortable with it. Like now you are being ridiculous and are showing how out of touch with reality you actually are. Like if Abel actually thinks this is how abuse in the music industry works then he is actually insane.
This wasnt the right role for him it has to be played by the right person and written way better. I guess not having a woman director was a bigger problem than they thought
problem is that was the whole point. abel and sam aren't trying to tell a story they're just exploiting women. they fired the female director bc she knew what she was doing. abel said it himself, he thought the show focused too much on women and the things they go through. he and sam wanted rape fantasies.
He literally did it to himself cuz why would you fire a woman director for a weird creep like Sam levinson like what did you expect and then the show basically like there own weird f up fantasies
He’s used to hiding his problematic behaviour under the guise of “edgy art” he is shocked because lots of people for the first time are calling him out for his blatant misogyny.
This is what happens when you’re very successful on one thing and your ego makes you think that you can do literally anything else with no effort, which… hell no ! This is not how life works ! The Weeknd should learn that next time.
And I love how the few cast members who are ferociously defending the show are like 'oh please, the female actresses were respected and the controversial scenes were handled with respect!' lol like why is the bar so low. Ofc any actors involved in explicit scenes should be treated respectfully. And then the one actress putting the blame on feminists and telling them to go f themselves... like ma'am, that's not helping the narrative that the show cares about women lol
the show is no different from the subject matter he talks about in his music. you and all you other fake activists should have kept your promise to not watch the show then.
I think part of the issue here is that The Idol feels like a huge ego project. It strongly feels like his character is coming off way more ridiculous and repulsive than he meant it to, and his acting is a lot worse than he thinks it is. We're supposed to buy that Jocelyn can't stay away from this guy but there isn't a moment where he's genuinely appealing to any extent even with his mouth shut and it's kind of a joke. Additionally a lot of the stuff that he and Levinson clearly thought was really deep is coming off as extremely on the nose and unrefined.
He's been telling you exactly who he is since House of Balloons. A talented singer with sad fuck boy lyrics. He literally just moved that character to this show. If anything, the show is just a glorified long The Weeknd music video.
I think what really made the Weeknd unique to a lot of artists today was the mystique he had. He’d release music, do a magazine interview, tour and vanish. Most people didnt even know what his speaking voice sounded like before 2020. It made people curious. I understand that he wants to move past this phase of being ‘the Weeknd’ and venture into new things, but this role was not the right play. Not to mention, tweeting back at viewers. A post tour hiatus might help with damage control. Someone should have read the room before green lighting the project, Gen-Z audiences are not as receptive to hypersexualised content in the mainstream as previous generations were. As for the people saying they won’t listen to his music, he has over 100 million monthly listeners, he’ll be fine lol.
True... He does have good music like Blinding Lights... I was sadly disappointed when the next recommendation in Yt's playbook was Breathe... I clocked out upon realizing the whole song was about describing how it feels when someone asks to be choked s**ally...
@@KiaraWilliamsX probably casual... I am not sure about loosers but by definition I can be counted as one but I ain't into his works (I only liked 2 from his discography, the rest I am quite appalled)...
Nobody is “policing” who watched what. The show makes light of harsh topics and it’s director uses women to push his weird ideologies. People have a right to WARN others.
also the ending being like " look at these women complaining about being abused when ACTUALLY they're playing victim for more power". It's heavy manosphere vibes
If the show had centered around being a popstar in the industry rather than turning it into an excuse to make porn because we barely even know who Jocelyn as a musician, why she’s famous, why isn’t her past singles being played or released instead of The Weekend music, Why isn’t her past work being shown to establish who she is rather than tell us she’s been in the industry for years. There’s barely any character development yet we jump right into the sex scenes.
@@Oh_My_MyHe can act, but when you’re working with lines like those from the horrid last scene of episode 2, or are made so unlikable as in the beginning of episode 5 where he just seems like your creepy, drunk misogynistic uncle, it can come off as a bit bad. The script of this show had both explicitly bad lines, and some noticeably cobbled plot points that weren’t fully explained or resolved. I think the dinner scene in episode 3 is one of his best acting moments in the show.
Apart from Abel being so defensive about this garbage show, people are also annoyed that Abel complained about the previous vision of Amy Seimetz, who had so much working against her in the first place with HBO not giving her much funding and Abel never being there to film his scenes due to his concerts, had too much of a "female perspective" (when the original concept was supposed to be about a famous singer joining a cult only to later escape this abusive cult leader and find her own independence). When Amy left the project and was replaced with Sam Levinson (who convienently was given all the money and resources he could want from HBO and suddenly allowed to film at Abel's house), it honestly just became an excuse to project his fetishes as he does with Euphoria (Euphoria, despite its mediocre writing, at least has a talented, charming cast to fall back on) and OF COURSE, it HAS to end with Jocelyn getting with Tedros, her freakin' abuser 🙄
Okay and not enough people are talking about how A24 went from a female to male director and then drained millions of dollars over budget to make their golden boy Sam Levinson happy.
@@justtester_9962??? why do you think valid criticism would come from fans of the show and not regular people? neither general public nor critics like this show & for a reason.
It isn't about 'policing' what others watch, it's like coming across shit in the middle of the street and warning others to not step on it as well. The show degrades woman to such an extent, makes light of the abuse and then plays into the very thing it had sworn to shed light on. All the while, weeknd had creative control over the character and the show itself. And that's not enough? They make the women at the end the manipulator, justifying the abuse she suffered. This isn't just about weeknd being dumb, it's how deep the misogyny runs. So yes we all have a right to warn others not to watch such baseless, degrading shit.
right sometimes honest can be annoying with his over the top assumption. he acts like people are out here handcuffing people if they watched it. telling someone "yeah that show was bad i wouldn't recommend it " isn't policing
The show is about a $lût and the things she accepts just to become famous. No abuse, no justifying. The story of a $lüt. Stop playing the victim for something It didn't even happen to you.
I'm starting to think that he's using the show as a way to do these things and he's justifying it by saying "it's ok it's a character". His character in the idol lines up very well with the graphic themes from his older albums. I feel like he's lashing out because people are for the first time calling him out for the shit he does. This show isn't about "the struggles of a pop star in the industry" (it would've been about that if it was directed by a woman like it was supposed to be and if it actually focused on that) instead it's js a fckd up fantasy of Sams and Abel.
the Weeknd has one of the most inflated egos in show business. don't get me wrong, his last two albums really surprised me, but even before these in various interviews he unapologetically cited himself as one of the biggest inspirations in music, said he created an entire genre, etc. what kills him is his absolute lack of humility and the inability to distance himself from his stage persona.
The Weeknd lashing out at the negative response of a show he had creative involvement with reminds me a lot of SIA and her movie MUSIC. It’s a horribly uncomfortable and offensive movie that misrepresents the autistic community in a harmful way, and her acting how she did hurt her image as well. Sounds like the same might happen with The Weeknd.
Whats most frustrating about the show is that these actors are wonderful, and deserved MUCH better than this show. Sam Levinson is also very weird and honestly.. doesn't need to direct anymore
It's also worth noticing many factors: a Rolling Stone article pointed out delays on the show's filming schedule. The show was under Amy Seimetz's vision but allegedly Abel replaced her with Sam because the show ended up "focusing on a female perspective". Also adding up the controversy Sam has from working on "Euphoria" (Barbie Ferreira's departure, somewhat unnecessary explicit scenes and running difficult filming sets). So I think some people anticipated that the show was gonna flop big time and get them talking about that. It worked I guess 💀
We don’t know if the Weeknd actually said that female perspective stuff. One ‘insider’ said he said it then everyone just rolled with it. It’s just a rumour
@@yutisimabut it definitely didn’t exceed them GoT and Euphoria on reviews, cultural relevance, etc. At least not yet. When you have such a star studded cast (The Weeknd, Dan levy, lily rose depp etc) ofc people are gonna tune in. The real test is pretty much what is the audience reaction and is it gonna get green lit for another season? If the answer to both those questions isn’t positive…then it’s a flop.
@@ValerieAbenaand also Amy was signed on by Sam. It was never Amy’s show solely. Sam and The Weeknd came up with it. These rumors just want to be victims so bad when there’s real bad guys we could be attacking
Honestly as a person who liked the weekends music and knew about the dark content it had, I'm still disgusted and don't even want to listen to his music anymore. The Idol did nothing but prove that the weeknd isn't criticising/satirizing the things he sings about and is doing the opposite, fetishizing. Edit:I just wanted to add that the Idol also proves that Sam Levison is a hack who relies on shock value and is a weirdo too.. it felt a bit unfair to complain about Abel when there were two people who ruined this show.
@@blazeforprezAll his fandom does is gatekeep him, ‘you’re not a real xo if you didn’t listen to his mixtapes right when they came out.’ I would say he deserves a better fandom but seeing how his stage persona isn’t rlly different from his real self, he deserves it. You’re not special for being here first and Abel won’t suck you off for it.
Given how explicit his older albums are I thought he would at least be able to say similar things while acting and it not be cringy but oh boy was I wrong
The fact that he was heavily involved in the writing and the production, he deserves the backlash because it has a lot of disgusting and out right messed up themes and images. I struggle to listen to his music now because of this show tbh, it's like it gave us a window into his mind which breathed life into his lyrics. It kinda feels like these are his fantasies and stuff and that's why it's disturbing for a lot of people. I just don't get why he chose to do this show because it was just a horrible idea.
You know it's bad when the studio cuts the show short lol. The last episode clearly had a massive gap in storytelling bc they cut an episode. Hbo didn't care and just wanted it over. Wouldn't be suprised if the movie he's supposed to do for them gets axed.
no the show under the woman director was supposed to be 6 episodes, sam did the story in 5. if you're going to insult something at least know what you're talking about.
Sorry but you’re incorrect Puffball in the reason why there are 5 episodes. Only 5 were ever written, filmed, & acted. There’s nothing on the cutting room floor.
@@puffball4484 sometimes the truth hurts. There is no “missing footage.” This is the story Sam Levinson wanted to tell. It’s HBO, they don’t force deadlines, so there was no pressure from there. This is the story. 5 episodes. Sorry. 🤷🏿♂️
the problem with the idol is that the idea they had was good, but the execution was tremendously bad, and his acting… no coments, the only good thing was Lily rose deep performance but it was a bit off during the scene where she’s doing a choreography and making a videoclip… like i just don’t feel she’s a pop star, but during the dramatic bits and the crying she nailed it, i don’t think the show is bad, but it’s definitely far from being the next euphoria, and honestly if next season of euphoria is gonna be like this i rather they just stop doing the show lol
The Idol displays dangerous rhetoric and ideologies. They rewrote a feminist story into a violent male gaze fantasy that demonizes the woman who was originally 1. The main character and 2. A victim of fame. But the weekend wanted so bad to be a famous lil actor that he hijacked the feminist show and rewrote it with misogynist ideas and made himself the star. Absolutely disgusting. Saying his character is the reason people don't like him in the show is absurd. He created this monstrosity of a show and his audacity is crazy. I actually can't listen to his music anymore because of how disgusting it all is to me. There are no blurred lines. Like he helped create the show... And he stays proud of it as if he did any more than harm
@@MsLLorena I really don't like people acting like I'm confusing the person vs the character. Like he is proud of this show. That speaks to himself as a person. It is disturbing asf!
They didn't realize the irony and problem with making a show about exploitation sexy. Also, when Sam took over the show, and reshot it all, The Weekend pushed to centre the show around his character much more, because he thought there was too much of a female perspective 🤦♀
It also doesn’t help Abel said Tedros is his shadow self. You know, the dark side he suppresses. That says a lot about his character. Lily Rose Depp deserved better, she is very talented.
He said Tedros ISNT him and is someone who he never wants to meet. He said Jocelyn is reflective of some things he went thru. Why lie for a couple of RUclips likes? Are you really that desperate?💀
humans tend to have shadow selves comprised of impulses they don’t wish to live out. choosing to suppress those tendencies as opposed to expressing them is not a sign of poor character, it’s quite the opposite.
Yea knowing him and Sam literally changed the whole show cuz it was from a female perspective and then he hired Sam weird creepy self like what did he expect and then the show makes everyone feel uncomfortable it’s literally glamorourizing abuse like the whole show just made me so uncomfortable by him not cuz his character cuz what he did behind the scenes and the show hood and watchable when his character not on the screen or in a scene his character is what makes people not like the show
Yep people are calling it out for what it was which is misogynistic hedonistic nonsense. It went from highlighting women’s issues and empowering them to glamorising abuse and violence they face
Playing that character wouldn't have been a bad idea if he were a good actor. Based on info about how the show was created, it seems like he just wanted to do all those stuff while being disguised as a character
fortunately for him, I think he's talented enough to bounce back from this. we know how the internet works, if the last album is fire mostly everyone will forget about this. it helps that this show doesn't look like it's getting a season two. Anyone who says they can't listen to his music anymore clearly weren't big enough fans of his to begin with. I think doing a show like this at the height of his career wasn't the smartest decision, but he clearly wants to go in a different direction creatively and he should be allowed to do that. telling him to "stick to music" kind of isn't fair but I get why people are saying it
I'm a huge fan of him and his music. But I can't keep supporting someone who doesn't respect women and this show confirmed the red flags I had been ignoring for years. It's one thing to sing about sex and stuff, but it's another to take a show portraying thw abuse women suffer in the industry and change it to a less feminine perspective (his words). Then, remove all substance from it, add too many torture p*rn scenes and end it by shifting the blame on the victim and make the abuser the poor victim!! No way it's just straight up insulting to women and children suffering in this industry. He's just as bad as Tedros IMO.
@@Nivieee sorry but you clearly were never fan of his music, the Weeknd has made songs 10x more vulgar than anything portrayed in the idol. Trilogy is literally a prime example.
@@justaguywholikeshentai4093 there is always going to be a different in how people reaction to a poem with music going along to it vs visual scenes telling a very specific story in a very specific way. you and I might differ on the what Trilogy really means of if he is really does view woman a certain way - the show is very clear and his statements and defenses don't really lead to anywhere but one place. Perhaps seeing the show and circus around it makes someone decided a different take on Trilogy too. So, no, ignoring red flags or possible red flags from the past doesn't prove they weren't a fan, or a true Scotsman.
So The Weekend is pulling a Chance The Rapper on us? He's essentially getting upset that people don't like something he's done and instead of ignoring it or accepting the critism he's replying to almost everyone who clowns on him and making himself look bad in the process.
the thing is, he helped produce and co-write the show. not to mention all of the rumours and allegations that came up in regard to the previous director. the quote ''too much from a female's perspective'' rightfully rubbed people the wrong way...
Which is good. When people complain about 'wokeness' it usually is a hit at the box office. See the Mario movie on release day. What does that say about this piece of crap show?
Y'all. Someone said on Twitter they had to delete all The Weekend songs from their playlists. Imagine people hating a show so bad, they gotta rid you from their music. I-
Eh, people can do whatever they want. If an artist made someone uncomfortable, people just don’t see the music the same way and don’t wanna listen to it anymore and that happens all the time.
He comes off as someone who always wanted to get into the film industry but was also a really talented singer as well. In fact he talks about the weeknd as almost like a role or persona his playing. Through the music his made and the love his gotten he clearly build up this image in his mind about who and what he thought he was and could do. Sadly for him, putting this into tv series and letting the world see it gave him the harsh truth that just because you can play a persona as a musican doesn't mean it will look as good in a tv series. The show wasn't even about what most of us thought, it was not about taking advantage of a young female in the industry but more so about his character. It was a show build for him and his acting career. Not to mention also promote his new music. I like the weeknds music but he seriously overestimated himself here and him going off on twitter shows he really did care. Now with his body of work in music, im sure he will be find but what a waste of time that was.
This, this literally happened with Halle Bailey in the little mermaid live action remake, she fucking sucked at acting cause she's a singer and a performer, not an actor.
I feel bad for Lily Depp i just want her to be apart of one, just one, successful film set with a good story because i feel like she’s been done so dirty considering 90% of all she’s been apart of is either mediocre or just terrible:.. even if she’s a good actor, this is ruining her trying to seriously start her career and it angers me
Right and let’s ignore she is a fully grown woman making decisions. She grew up in the industry as the nepo child of a famous actor. She should know trash from not. Not to mention she asking for more nude scenes and then proceed to whore herself out for fame and success. She deserved every ounce of embarrassment.
See my thing is that I don’t even care about the character he played, it’s more so the fact he FIRED the first director for making the show too much of a “female perspective” but… he himself and the team decided to make the lead a female 💀 like ofc it’s gonna talk more about the main character, that’s how stories work
As such a huge star/persona he never should have played such a seedy character in a show like the Idol. People would on any level begin to associate him with Tedros Tedros. Other real life pop stars like Jennie Kim and Troye Sivan would smart to take less edgy and more supportive roles in such a dark and explicit project.
He put 100% into his music and because of that he had 0% left for his acting lol He shouldn't get so upset in a field he's inexperienced in. Instead, he should take in the criticism (both good and bad) to help further along his acting abilities.
He never earned or deserved this opportunity and took this project away from an experienced female director. He was lucky to be successful in music and should stay in his lane
@@niathomas184people will forgot in a year and he'll be back on top the attention span nowadays is too short so don't worry he can still put out music that you and the public will enjoy and become smash hit songs, I don't think his involvement in the show was such a bad idea
@@jasmeetsandhu229 Honestly, I can’t tell if you're right or if this whole thing is gonna be the catalyst for a hate train. Either of those would be stupid imo tho (either people overreact in the moment when they end up forgetting about it anyway, or they tear someone down for something as harmless as a project they didn't enjoy)
Abel has always given me the sleazy/ick Covert Narc type vibe. He's insanely talented, But lets be real here i don't think his character is that far off from who Abel is lol. Celebs are fucking weird and 90% toxic because they live a life that isn't realistic.
With the way, the last episode played out I’m sorry, but for anyone who pretends like Ables character isn’t reflected in the show is a little dense. I won’t spoil it but they do show a lot of sympathy to his abusive character by adding the dumbest plot twist. It just screams self-insert and someone who is unable with being portrayed like an actual villain.
The Idol is just plain bad but, the only props I can give it is its music. The music is legitimately good. Abel just needs to do music period. He can't act. He's just not good at it. He needs to stick to what he's good at, music.
I am just tired of seeing repulsive sexual stuff in the TV shows and movies nowadays. It feels like not a single thing cannot be created without it. Like, i don’t wanna watch this fantasy porn bs, not even with my boyfriend because it makes me legit uncomfortable. HBO needs to stop putting out this kind of bs, and i feel like TV shows as a whole need to sit down and think about what kind of bs they’ve been putting out
I don't think it's really about people confusing the Weekend with Tedros (although, he made really everything in his power for us to confuse it because of the role and its context) or being shocked by explicit content: we've all heard the Weekend's music and seen Euphoria. I just think it's really about bad work that has been packaged as edgy and being constantly told by the Weekend (or else) that it's good and we just don't get it. When it's not - and no amount of trauma, sexual content, verbal abuse etc. being displayed on the screen will make it so. I think audiences just don't like to be taken as idiots - hence the outrage.
I’m not even a Weeknd fan, but I’m reading the comments and they’re throwing me off. I guess his last couple albums did the trick and made ppl forget (I didnt listen to them so I could be wrong) but I definitely remember his earlier projects and the character he plays on this show is actually very on par with a lot of that lyrical content. Tedros is very House of Balloons/Trilogy Weeknd. I gave him a listen back then cuz he was buzzing and all my friends were listening, but I just couldn’t get into him cuz I didnt like his voice and his content came off more predatory and creepy to me than sexy or mysterious or whatever tf girls like/d about him and his music.
‘TheWeeknd’ in itself is a character, a persona. A criticism of sex and the pimp life. However, his content can become real like ‘Next’, ‘In The Night’, ‘The Birds part 1&2’. They tell the story of an abused stripper, TheWeeknd’s true emotions to sex, and the consequences of his actions. We have women in the industry singing nothing but sex, is that also not creepy and predatory to men?
@@bodybuild5975Oh come on man Take My Breath Away and Breathe are no longer a story. It's creepy with context, yes. Snoop can sing 'bam bam cop down' but I never saw him shoot a copper. If he's in a TV show saying 'that's how hid the cop's body' and he co-produced the show it's not just a role, turn I'd start worrying
@@falconeshield Analogy falls flat considering that Snoop Dog wouldn’t of actually killed a Cop because it’s a TV Show. TheWeeknd is a character, he’s meant to be provocative and sexual. Yet, if you listen to ‘Twenty Eight’, ‘In The Night’ there are references to addiction and diving within the complexity of each character.
@@bodybuild5975 character this character that. Why can't men ever play nice characters? "It's a character" total BS. It's who they really want to be, but they're putting "character" in front of it so they can use it as a defense whenever they want.
This is probably an unpopular opinion but I've always felt ick vibes from The Weekend. Also Lily-Rose Depp did a great job. This is the first work I've seen from her and she delivered.
I only have one small problem with Lily Rose she doesn’t give pop star vibes. More like a glamours actress or a model. She gives so much Kate moss vibes, so hard for me to believe she is a pop star.
I will never ever be able to look at him the same way again because not only did he act in it, he produced it and scrapped most of it cause he said it was "too feminine". Lily Rose Depp acted down tho.
I think the problem (beside the bad acting) is that there was a part of mystery and darkness (in a « sexy way » I’ll say) around The Weeknd persona. The fact that he wanted to separate himself from his character in this show and his real life persona (that nobody really know about) is very confusing. It makes you think that he really acts like that in real life. Plus the show is shot at his home, he did the entire soundtrack, the ending is taking place during his real life concert, etc. so people are seeing Tedros as The Weeknd and nothing else.
but its wasn't a good show. it was weird, fetishased cringe. idk if you watched or not but if you did watch the show you know how bad its (especially the ending)
Going back 10 years ago The Weeknd was one of the coolest guys in the music industry, all the women loved him, all the guys wanted to be him. House of Balloons, Thursday, Echoes of Silence, Kissland, Beauty Behind the Madness... the guy was a superstar and no one knew hardly anything about him, 9/10 people didn't even know how he sounded when he talked normally. Now we are here, over a decade later and the world is cringing at him... I never would have guessed in a million years that would have happened 🤣
Dude made his character the victim in the end. Dude is ass as an actor and his ego hijacked the original ideas because it was focused too much on the female experience. Now he has to own the shit show and doesn’t like. 😢
3:21 he took on a producer role and had a huge part in getting OG director fired saying the show “was going into too much of a female direction” he’s not just acting in it he’s a huge part of the story creation process
the thing is, i’ve seen plenty of actor and actresses that can criticize the characters they portray, and recognize that they’re evil or something they hate. but the weeknd can’t do anything else but cry and defend that awful character… wonder why.
me too. i love to see actor interviews. they always talk about how they can/ can't relate to the character and maybe why the character can be seen as a good/ bad person then move on. its like it really is him so its personal lol i guess i can see why he had bella hadid for many years. she must be so incredibly insecure, that he seems like a ''good choice'' he can make himself look good to an audience but one one one getting to know him is just as creepy and unlikable as his ''character''
For some reason, HBO allowed Sam and Abel to shove the original showrunner out and go on this egofest that gave the public nothing they could care about. Just a weird show coming out of weird circumstances.
The show had so much potential! Unfortunately the focus was too much on Abel’s fucked up character than other more interesting characters like Jennie who was gearing up to replace Lily-Rose’s character as the new “idol”. To me this felt like some kind of sick fantasy Abel had and we all know how much Sam Levinson loves to humiliate his female characters with unnecessary sex scenes. This felt like a male dom fantasy throughout…
Why isn’t anyone talking about how fantastic the soundtrack is?! Not to mention, Lily-Rose Depp actually sang for the show and more people should commend her for that imo
The reason I wasn’t open to watching the show as an XO fan is because I didn’t want Abel to lose his elusiveness to me as a fan. But alas, I couldn’t escape it. With all The Idol tweets, clips and media outrage, you don’t have to watch the show to be impacted by it
Yeah it's pretty damn bad. I mean I feel the same can happen to actual professional actors, they play one 'wrong' role and everyone starts hating their guts for it. Ppl are weird.
Sam levinson and the weekend took most of the writing and producing of the show from the female co writers and producers who were steam rolled which really shows in the idol unfortunately
Euphoria also a dark master peice is endlessly praised and popularized, yet the Idol is about legal adults..and Euphoria is about underage, teenagers. I don't think the Idol deserves this backlash. It's not for sensitive viewers period.
he should just go back to being mysterious and lowkey again. it's better seeing his personality through good music than whatever the hell this show is.
I don't think critics police the watching experience of others, I think it's more about not supporting shitty writing that does nothing for the commentary on abuse, power dynamics and the struggles of celebrities, since it kinda romanticizes all those issues.
a lot of the people saying they are “disappointed” by abel after watching clearly only started listening to him during after hours/dawn fm era and it shows lmao
i love his music. its so good but now whenever i listen his songs only thing i can hear is his cringe lines from The Idol that's why i don't listen him rn. i hope i will be cured from this soon bc i really love him as a singer😢
no. trilogy was 10 years ago. What it shows is that a lot of his audience has OUTGROWN the 'fucbois with a porn and drug addiction are so cool' phase while you losers didn't. Better yet, you feel elitist because of it and this is what makes you legit losers lmao
I don’t think it has anything to do with that. It just has to do with the fact that they’re disappointed in his actions, it has nothing to do with his music lmao.
@@MarlenaTheCreatoreah you should definitely see doctor because i think you’re mentally r3t4rd3d and racist lmao. Where was this energy for Nate Jacobs and Evan Peters’ Dahmer? No cancel campaign for them? I wonder why 🤔
I think another huge part of it is that The Weeknd isn’t just an actor on the show, he co-created it. He had a huge say in what happened during the show and a lot of the scenes he was evolved in. It isn’t like he just accepted the gig and didn’t know what it was about until it was too late. He’s very obviously proud of this
Exactly!
Abel was the co-creator, writer, and executive producer along with being one of the starring actors. he was heavily involved in the making of this show.
Well of course, that's the only way he would be cast is he cast himself! 🤣
he literally fired the last director too so clearly he had a lot of power when it came to this garbage ass show
You know Purple Rain had a an*l r*pe scene... but due to the anticipated naivete of the public it was scrapped. 🤷🏾♂️
You can make shows/movies with dark themes and not make watchers completely repulsed
the unintentional kind of repulsed, to be more exact. like, the book lolita took me MONTHS to finish because a sentence would get me horrified and would make me just slam the book closed, but it was the purpose of it. this show is supposed to be some "edgy britney-like popstar suffering" stuff but instead of making you pause because you're in shock, you pause because you cant believe that is an actual thing.
@@sakaom exactly
Exactly
Unless if the intention is exactly that.
I was definitely repulsed by it
I don't want to sound harsh but, with all of the shady stuff The Weeknd did/said, he brought all of that drama on himself.
What do u mean?
These people have room temperature IQ, they don’t do any research. The Weekend fired the original female director on The Idol and replaced her with Sam Levinson. 😂 He said that the female director put too much “female perceptive” in the show. Dude brought all the drama on to himself, he fully deserves it and beyond. 😂
Bet Sam Levinson had a ghost writer for season one of Eurphoria, because season two was shit.
Yup. He literally wrote himself to touch Lily it’s so obvious. He also brought in San so that he could get more screen time and fired the original director
You're completely right
Had The Weeknd kept the original director who’s not known for sexualizing characters that are minors as well as stay behind the scenes as a writer, this show could’ve actually had big potential. Instead he chose his ego and screen time above actual substance & became the same thing they were trying to exploit
Yes ! Kinda like how Selena Gomez stood behind the scenes for 13 reasons why and that show was a hit !
Yea. It was so disgusting seeing a woman portraying a minor girl running around the entire house butt naked. I don’t care what anybody says. This show said alot about Sam and Abel.
@@daisykisses8803I think it was supposed to be disgusting though. Like showing people that this happens irl. Making people aware how terrible the industry is and what it's like.
@@daisykisses8803 thats what happens in hollywood behind the scenes tho.
@@fg4462 exactly. People think celebs are saints bc they put a mask on red carpet...i ve heard so many stories like bad stories, that industry and its puppets are evil
The Idol could've been great and Emmy worthy IF IT ACTUALLY WAS about the struggles and the dark sides of being a female entertainer in the music industry. But no, it became another one of Sam Levinson's wet dreams. Abel's character was totally pointless and added nothing to the story, combined with his bad acting. The Idol was an ego project from Abel and I wish they went through with the original concept of the show. Also, Lily-Rose Depp actually surprised me with how good her performances were during the entire show.
Yeah I actually liked the way the show sounded in concept. And then we got whatever the hell this was 💀💀
Exactly. The show has good bones - the story is there. A cult leader recruits a real "catch" - someone famous - but it turns out the whole industry is a cult that none of them can escape. But cult leaders are supposed to be charismatic, the industry is supposed to be enticing (at least initially), and this show has none of that.
It's like the show wasn't written for anyone but them. Since Sam and Abel are industry insiders, it's like they assumed their viewpoint would be instantly translated without needing to flesh out the story or the characters. Like they could take a bunch of shortcuts because people would "just get it" without needing to show us. It's not a good sign when most watchers are saying "Why would you do that?" or "What was the point of that?" or "I don't caaaare", lol.
And this is why people need writer's rooms, lol.
EGO PROJECT💯
lily carried that mess of a show
it kinda funny how the bad parts of the show you can easily tell it came from the sam levinson type euphoria writing and the good parts of the show you could tell that it came from what the show originally was supposed to be before sam levinson hopped onto it.
The problem is that this character he helped create and chose to act has tainted his image. After so many years of just letting his music speak for itself and being very elusive when it came to interviews, it really wasn't a good idea to choose this project as the first step into becoming more public. Of course people are going to relate him to his character now. Should've done a documentary of his life as an artist, not this shit.
💯💯💯 I’m glad Abel decided to be more open and public in his persona, but this show is a bad way to do that. And it leads people to assume that’s how he really is. When none of us know him, the person.
Yessss its hard to differentiate when we dont know u.
I’m sorry but I think you’re having trouble deciphering reality, and fiction. Yes The Weeknd helped create, and bring Tidros to life in the writing room, and PLAYING THE PART OF THE CHARACTER, but he is not tidros. Tidros does not exist. The only way this should smear his image is showing that he’s bad at writing for television, or maybe he was so good at his performance he made you believe he was Tidros. Either way it’s just a tv series.
@@marilyndoll2929
after looking at certain interviews i dont think its a stretch
@@renanphillips1479
The "Reality vs Fiction" argument does not help here, and it's a very tiring argument. It's obvious that this show is a way for The Weeknd and Sam to play out their fucked up fantasies. The red flags were in the music, and now he is in a show writing and playing into the red flags. These shows do affect reality whether you like it or not. It's trauma porn. It's sexulizing women who struggle with mental health. Many people struggle with what the main character goes through and to potray it in such a disgusting manner does cause real harm.
the weeknd literally destroyed the show. there were moments when i was watching and was truly captivated by the scene in front of me (the ones with lily rose depp). they were all the moments when i forgot the weeknd was even in the show. the show had potential, and it frustrates me that we never got to see that potential because of him.
Exactly it was his idea to get Sam Levinson/ have more screen time
It sucked for me
Exactly instead it was all about sexual scenes and bad acting lol
I see you literally everywhere
@@disco_depression i be commenting
His performance in the show is the perfect example of what happens when a celebrity assumes that acting is easy.
Bro probably hasn’t been in a play since the 3rd grade, but thinks he can hop into naturalistic acting 😭
Acting is extremely difficult. That's why a lot of musicians fail at it because they don't study or take classes before doing it lol
Cause a music video is acting yaknow! /s
Lmfao
Right. Coming from an actor, it seems like they wanna hire everybody EXCEPT actors.
Like why did I see Common in a movie yesterday?😭😭😭
bro probably thinks acting cool and throwing gang signs in music videos is acting.
This show and his actions have definitely affected how I felt about him as an artist and the music
I know and it’s sad. He’s so talented yet he chooses to be such a douche 😞
Finally
same
Bye it’s a show he probably could care less lmao 😂 y’all watch euphoria kids having sex y’all don’t cancel that but ok
@@karinamanenche3930 what do you mean? a lot of people have issues with the sexualization of teenagers in euphoria, people haven't been quiet about it either lol
I wish you would have talked more about why people are so upset. It's not just because it's super sexually gruesome. The Weekend removed the importance of a female perspective in the show's creation. Also, spoilers for anyone who wants to watch it, but the ending is supposedly the realization that the female character was manipulative and not the victim. This story has no weight at best and at worse shows what happens when two men try to speak of the abuse of women. It's icky, and his defensiveness comes off as arrogant and misogynistic.
Exactly, and he’s always seemed this way to me.
EXACTLY!!!!
It was never intended to be from a female perspective that rolling stone article was lies
@@UncleT525 There is no reason a show that touches on these topics shouldn't have a women involved. As in a women being in the creation processes saying, " yes this is the best and realistic way to handle these topics of abuse that women go through." If it was done on purpose than its just two men creating a show that uses the sexulization of women in the industry to be "edgy and hot".
@@godsofmonsters7267
Why the hell a woman who has never been in that situation as a pop star should be better? Because she has boobs? That’s kinda ridiculous IMO . Hire goof writers. Plus Amy was just the director, not the writer
The end when we saw who the "victim" was, Tedro's (the male), while the female "victim" (Jocelyn) "lied" about everything (her mom beating her with a brush) made me really think about the entire show. Especially what we could've seen with the original storyline IF the female director stayed. It was about abuse of women in the industry and a relationship, now it seems she was the bad guy all along and he really cared. This show feels like a new form of defending abuse towards women.
I agree with you. Not to mention that brush was obviously pretty new😂
Also, I keep asking this question:
If, all along, Joss was lying about being abused, what about that big dinner scene where both Leia and Xander acknowledge that they witnessed the abuse and knew about the abuse for YEARS. That was a big moment, actually. So, it literally makes no sense. Leia and Xander weren’t lying about it. So, how is this show trying to convince us that Joss was never abused and she was the “bad guy” all along? Huh?!?
@@iamcasihart OH MY GOD UR RIGHT????? the writers are sloppy asf, they should've kept the OG clips and script... smh
@iamcasihart i think Lea and Xander knew that she was lying. Remember the scene where they shocked Xander with the shock collar because he kept saying that Jocelyn has been lying about all of it and she is now also manipulating Tedro. But since Jocelyn said Xander was lying, he kept getting shocked until he gave up and said he actually was lying. And for Lea, she always seemed uneasy and wanted to talk to Jocelyn about something but we never know so it might’ve been about all this manipulation situation.
@@mariahsgetorade4339i don't think sam levinson thought that deep. the whole show is giving: "it makes sense unless you think about it"
Abel deleting the tweets he made belittling others for responding to the show was uncalled for. I thought he wanted people to be repulsed by his character?
he wants to people to be disgusted with his character but praise his acting I guess 😂 he really believed he gave an Emmy worthy performance, the ego this man has...
I think he didn't delete them but his team did lol.
@@marilyndoll2929y’all will pull excuses out of your asses at this point😭 wtf does Amber Heard have to do with this. Abel made a dumbass call and is getting the ultimate dumbass treatment. He was a dumbass and people are calling him a dumbass. You can’t put that much sex in a show about women’s pain in the music industry and expect women to be fucking comfortable with it. Like now you are being ridiculous and are showing how out of touch with reality you actually are. Like if Abel actually thinks this is how abuse in the music industry works then he is actually insane.
Him doing that is proof that he's shit in his actings.
@@marilyndoll2929
I don’t think that has anything to do with AH
This wasnt the right role for him it has to be played by the right person and written way better. I guess not having a woman director was a bigger problem than they thought
problem is that was the whole point. abel and sam aren't trying to tell a story they're just exploiting women. they fired the female director bc she knew what she was doing. abel said it himself, he thought the show focused too much on women and the things they go through. he and sam wanted rape fantasies.
@@littlelou050 true
@@littlelou050where did he say that? Not doubting you I just want to find out more
@@Erin-ho8qu ‘The Idol’: How HBO’s Next ‘Euphoria’ Became Twisted ‘Torture Porn’ by Rolling Stone
@@littlelou050 This is exactly what it is.
He literally did it to himself cuz why would you fire a woman director for a weird creep like Sam levinson like what did you expect and then the show basically like there own weird f up fantasies
He’s used to hiding his problematic behaviour under the guise of “edgy art” he is shocked because lots of people for the first time are calling him out for his blatant misogyny.
This is what happens when you’re very successful on one thing and your ego makes you think that you can do literally anything else with no effort, which… hell no ! This is not how life works ! The Weeknd should learn that next time.
And I love how the few cast members who are ferociously defending the show are like 'oh please, the female actresses were respected and the controversial scenes were handled with respect!' lol like why is the bar so low. Ofc any actors involved in explicit scenes should be treated respectfully. And then the one actress putting the blame on feminists and telling them to go f themselves... like ma'am, that's not helping the narrative that the show cares about women lol
yeah The Idol has made me completely dislike and be repulsed by the weeknd..
Maybe it’s like Joaquin Phoenix and he’s doing the joker bit and the Twitter bit for it
the show is no different from the subject matter he talks about in his music. you and all you other fake activists should have kept your promise to not watch the show then.
@@itunesdrop right. Same ones binging Euphoria
You dislike him because he was acting in a role as an antagonistic character...
Yeah that is completely silly.
I’m thinking Abel should just stick to music
Agreed
Yup
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I don’t think his music career will last after this
fr i can't listen to him the same anymore after tedros
I think part of the issue here is that The Idol feels like a huge ego project. It strongly feels like his character is coming off way more ridiculous and repulsive than he meant it to, and his acting is a lot worse than he thinks it is. We're supposed to buy that Jocelyn can't stay away from this guy but there isn't a moment where he's genuinely appealing to any extent even with his mouth shut and it's kind of a joke. Additionally a lot of the stuff that he and Levinson clearly thought was really deep is coming off as extremely on the nose and unrefined.
He always seemed really artsy fartsy and too up in his head. The “did we upset you “ was so cringe
He's been telling you exactly who he is since House of Balloons. A talented singer with sad fuck boy lyrics. He literally just moved that character to this show. If anything, the show is just a glorified long The Weeknd music video.
I gotta listen to that song I must've missed it
@@falconeshield It's an album and as much as I'm going off on him, that album is actually really good.
Yeah but House of Balloons is good because it actually does its job of portraying that lifestyle as both addicting and monstrous/horrifying
THIS
Then, glad I was never a fan of his. And, those aren't "fuckboy lyrics". Those are predatory, "I need to be locked the fuck up" lyrics.
I think what really made the Weeknd unique to a lot of artists today was the mystique he had. He’d release music, do a magazine interview, tour and vanish. Most people didnt even know what his speaking voice sounded like before 2020. It made people curious. I understand that he wants to move past this phase of being ‘the Weeknd’ and venture into new things, but this role was not the right play. Not to mention, tweeting back at viewers.
A post tour hiatus might help with damage control.
Someone should have read the room before green lighting the project, Gen-Z audiences are not as receptive to hypersexualised content in the mainstream as previous generations were.
As for the people saying they won’t listen to his music, he has over 100 million monthly listeners, he’ll be fine lol.
True... He does have good music like Blinding Lights... I was sadly disappointed when the next recommendation in Yt's playbook was Breathe... I clocked out upon realizing the whole song was about describing how it feels when someone asks to be choked s**ally...
@@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752I keep seeing you talk about this “Breathe” song. Surely you mean Take My Breath.
@@prettierjesus3119 I guess that's it... All I remember it's that word, Breath or Breathe...
His listeners are casual listeners or actual losers
@@KiaraWilliamsX probably casual... I am not sure about loosers but by definition I can be counted as one but I ain't into his works (I only liked 2 from his discography, the rest I am quite appalled)...
Nobody is “policing” who watched what. The show makes light of harsh topics and it’s director uses women to push his weird ideologies. People have a right to WARN others.
exactly
girl no ones making light of anything wtf
@@subwaydaddy they literally talk about how mental illness is sexy & that women "like rapey vibes" in a man only in the first episode.
also the ending being like " look at these women complaining about being abused when ACTUALLY they're playing victim for more power". It's heavy manosphere vibes
???? literally they use epstein victims like a joke???? bullshit the show is trash
The idol could’ve been an amazing show if the story was explained more detailed and If the scene were tone down.
would’ve been good if the weeknd had no involvement besides maybe the music. he literally destroyed the show.
If the show had centered around being a popstar in the industry rather than turning it into an excuse to make porn because we barely even know who Jocelyn as a musician, why she’s famous, why isn’t her past singles being played or released instead of The Weekend music, Why isn’t her past work being shown to establish who she is rather than tell us she’s been in the industry for years. There’s barely any character development yet we jump right into the sex scenes.
Nah, it could’ve been better if they did the original version of the show. And they left Jennie out of it cuz sister cannot act.
Exactly
@@Oh_My_MyHe can act, but when you’re working with lines like those from the horrid last scene of episode 2, or are made so unlikable as in the beginning of episode 5 where he just seems like your creepy, drunk misogynistic uncle, it can come off as a bit bad. The script of this show had both explicitly bad lines, and some noticeably cobbled plot points that weren’t fully explained or resolved.
I think the dinner scene in episode 3 is one of his best acting moments in the show.
Apart from Abel being so defensive about this garbage show, people are also annoyed that Abel complained about the previous vision of Amy Seimetz, who had so much working against her in the first place with HBO not giving her much funding and Abel never being there to film his scenes due to his concerts, had too much of a "female perspective" (when the original concept was supposed to be about a famous singer joining a cult only to later escape this abusive cult leader and find her own independence). When Amy left the project and was replaced with Sam Levinson (who convienently was given all the money and resources he could want from HBO and suddenly allowed to film at Abel's house), it honestly just became an excuse to project his fetishes as he does with Euphoria (Euphoria, despite its mediocre writing, at least has a talented, charming cast to fall back on) and OF COURSE, it HAS to end with Jocelyn getting with Tedros, her freakin' abuser 🙄
Just like I thought with somebody else, were all the people complaining actual "fans" or were there some trolls in the midst fanning the flames?
What makes the writing in euphoria "medicore"?
Okay and not enough people are talking about how A24 went from a female to male director and then drained millions of dollars over budget to make their golden boy Sam Levinson happy.
This world hates women and doesn’t want to see us win. People suck!
@@justtester_9962???
why do you think valid criticism would come from fans of the show and not regular people? neither general public nor critics like this show & for a reason.
It isn't about 'policing' what others watch, it's like coming across shit in the middle of the street and warning others to not step on it as well.
The show degrades woman to such an extent, makes light of the abuse and then plays into the very thing it had sworn to shed light on. All the while, weeknd had creative control over the character and the show itself. And that's not enough? They make the women at the end the manipulator, justifying the abuse she suffered. This isn't just about weeknd being dumb, it's how deep the misogyny runs. So yes we all have a right to warn others not to watch such baseless, degrading shit.
right sometimes honest can be annoying with his over the top assumption. he acts like people are out here handcuffing people if they watched it. telling someone "yeah that show was bad i wouldn't recommend it " isn't policing
The show is about a $lût and the things she accepts just to become famous. No abuse, no justifying. The story of a $lüt. Stop playing the victim for something It didn't even happen to you.
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@@thomasduartehsstill a shit show
I'm starting to think that he's using the show as a way to do these things and he's justifying it by saying "it's ok it's a character". His character in the idol lines up very well with the graphic themes from his older albums. I feel like he's lashing out because people are for the first time calling him out for the shit he does. This show isn't about "the struggles of a pop star in the industry" (it would've been about that if it was directed by a woman like it was supposed to be and if it actually focused on that) instead it's js a fckd up fantasy of Sams and Abel.
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the Weeknd has one of the most inflated egos in show business. don't get me wrong, his last two albums really surprised me, but even before these in various interviews he unapologetically cited himself as one of the biggest inspirations in music, said he created an entire genre, etc. what kills him is his absolute lack of humility and the inability to distance himself from his stage persona.
Ohh you are funny boy
i love seeing these npcs talking about celebrities like they know them personally
Which is hilarious because he basically just copies Michael Jackson in many ways but with immature lyrics about how he is horny, high and sad 😂
@@la6136bruh have you even listened to his old music
The Weeknd lashing out at the negative response of a show he had creative involvement with reminds me a lot of SIA and her movie MUSIC. It’s a horribly uncomfortable and offensive movie that misrepresents the autistic community in a harmful way, and her acting how she did hurt her image as well. Sounds like the same might happen with The Weeknd.
Both involved an over exaggerated response to an acting choice / content of a very-much stated ‘sexualized’ story.
nah he’s too big for it to hurt his image
blud has been the top 1 artist for over a year mate its too late for shit like that to happen
Whats most frustrating about the show is that these actors are wonderful, and deserved MUCH better than this show. Sam Levinson is also very weird and honestly.. doesn't need to direct anymore
Totally agreee
Eh not really. Abel & Jennie were awful actors 😭 everyone else did pretty good tho
that episten joke was crazy man
There's something about the styling of his character's hair that adds fuel to the fire.
😂😂
It's also worth noticing many factors: a Rolling Stone article pointed out delays on the show's filming schedule. The show was under Amy Seimetz's vision but allegedly Abel replaced her with Sam because the show ended up "focusing on a female perspective". Also adding up the controversy Sam has from working on "Euphoria" (Barbie Ferreira's departure, somewhat unnecessary explicit scenes and running difficult filming sets). So I think some people anticipated that the show was gonna flop big time and get them talking about that. It worked I guess 💀
it flopped because it's a genuinely bad show, not just because of rolling stone article.
@@majamatejic9235 the show was bad, but it didn't flop. it succeded game of thrones and euphoria on views
We don’t know if the Weeknd actually said that female perspective stuff. One ‘insider’ said he said it then everyone just rolled with it. It’s just a rumour
@@yutisimabut it definitely didn’t exceed them GoT and Euphoria on reviews, cultural relevance, etc. At least not yet. When you have such a star studded cast (The Weeknd, Dan levy, lily rose depp etc) ofc people are gonna tune in. The real test is pretty much what is the audience reaction and is it gonna get green lit for another season? If the answer to both those questions isn’t positive…then it’s a flop.
@@ValerieAbenaand also Amy was signed on by Sam. It was never Amy’s show solely. Sam and The Weeknd came up with it. These rumors just want to be victims so bad when there’s real bad guys we could be attacking
The show is The Weekend music without the beat.
* the Weeknd
But more corny
😂
Honestly as a person who liked the weekends music and knew about the dark content it had, I'm still disgusted and don't even want to listen to his music anymore.
The Idol did nothing but prove that the weeknd isn't criticising/satirizing the things he sings about and is doing the opposite, fetishizing.
Edit:I just wanted to add that the Idol also proves that Sam Levison is a hack who relies on shock value and is a weirdo too.. it felt a bit unfair to complain about Abel when there were two people who ruined this show.
woah
%100 agree with you.
I agree.
Bye lol there's plenty real xo fans that will keep listening
@@blazeforprezAll his fandom does is gatekeep him, ‘you’re not a real xo if you didn’t listen to his mixtapes right when they came out.’ I would say he deserves a better fandom but seeing how his stage persona isn’t rlly different from his real self, he deserves it. You’re not special for being here first and Abel won’t suck you off for it.
Given how explicit his older albums are I thought he would at least be able to say similar things while acting and it not be cringy but oh boy was I wrong
Stick to making music, Abel.
Well....at least we get some rlly good memes
The fact that he was heavily involved in the writing and the production, he deserves the backlash because it has a lot of disgusting and out right messed up themes and images. I struggle to listen to his music now because of this show tbh, it's like it gave us a window into his mind which breathed life into his lyrics. It kinda feels like these are his fantasies and stuff and that's why it's disturbing for a lot of people. I just don't get why he chose to do this show because it was just a horrible idea.
You know it's bad when the studio cuts the show short lol. The last episode clearly had a massive gap in storytelling bc they cut an episode. Hbo didn't care and just wanted it over. Wouldn't be suprised if the movie he's supposed to do for them gets axed.
no the show under the woman director was supposed to be 6 episodes, sam did the story in 5. if you're going to insult something at least know what you're talking about.
Sorry but you’re incorrect Puffball in the reason why there are 5 episodes. Only 5 were ever written, filmed, & acted. There’s nothing on the cutting room floor.
@@DToomer then thats honestly even worse but I don't believe that.
@@puffball4484 sometimes the truth hurts. There is no “missing footage.” This is the story Sam Levinson wanted to tell. It’s HBO, they don’t force deadlines, so there was no pressure from there. This is the story. 5 episodes. Sorry. 🤷🏿♂️
the problem with the idol is that the idea they had was good, but the execution was tremendously bad, and his acting… no coments, the only good thing was Lily rose deep performance but it was a bit off during the scene where she’s doing a choreography and making a videoclip… like i just don’t feel she’s a pop star, but during the dramatic bits and the crying she nailed it, i don’t think the show is bad, but it’s definitely far from being the next euphoria, and honestly if next season of euphoria is gonna be like this i rather they just stop doing the show lol
If there’s one thing a white women can do it’s cry on cue and make its look convincing 😂
You guys should've stopped watching when a dad graping a son was framed with romantic light lololol
The Idol displays dangerous rhetoric and ideologies. They rewrote a feminist story into a violent male gaze fantasy that demonizes the woman who was originally 1. The main character and 2. A victim of fame. But the weekend wanted so bad to be a famous lil actor that he hijacked the feminist show and rewrote it with misogynist ideas and made himself the star. Absolutely disgusting.
Saying his character is the reason people don't like him in the show is absurd. He created this monstrosity of a show and his audacity is crazy. I actually can't listen to his music anymore because of how disgusting it all is to me. There are no blurred lines. Like he helped create the show... And he stays proud of it as if he did any more than harm
Exactly what I was thinking, thanks for writeing it so I don t have to
@@MsLLorena I really don't like people acting like I'm confusing the person vs the character. Like he is proud of this show. That speaks to himself as a person. It is disturbing asf!
They didn't realize the irony and problem with making a show about exploitation sexy. Also, when Sam took over the show, and reshot it all, The Weekend pushed to centre the show around his character much more, because he thought there was too much of a female perspective 🤦♀
"Hey this movie is about a girl."
"Na focus on the waterfall that's more important and less female perspectivy."
"Brilliant!"
It also doesn’t help Abel said Tedros is his shadow self. You know, the dark side he suppresses. That says a lot about his character.
Lily Rose Depp deserved better, she is very talented.
He said Tedros ISNT him and is someone who he never wants to meet. He said Jocelyn is reflective of some things he went thru. Why lie for a couple of RUclips likes? Are you really that desperate?💀
humans tend to have shadow selves comprised of impulses they don’t wish to live out. choosing to suppress those tendencies as opposed to expressing them is not a sign of poor character, it’s quite the opposite.
Lily rose choose to be in the show tho ? It was her decision
Yea knowing him and Sam literally changed the whole show cuz it was from a female perspective and then he hired Sam weird creepy self like what did he expect and then the show makes everyone feel uncomfortable it’s literally glamorourizing abuse like the whole show just made me so uncomfortable by him not cuz his character cuz what he did behind the scenes and the show hood and watchable when his character not on the screen or in a scene his character is what makes people not like the show
Yep people are calling it out for what it was which is misogynistic hedonistic nonsense. It went from highlighting women’s issues and empowering them to glamorising abuse and violence they face
@@marilyndoll2929you’re all up in these comments on multiple threads defending. weird behavior, get a job.
Playing that character wouldn't have been a bad idea if he were a good actor. Based on info about how the show was created, it seems like he just wanted to do all those stuff while being disguised as a character
fortunately for him, I think he's talented enough to bounce back from this. we know how the internet works, if the last album is fire mostly everyone will forget about this. it helps that this show doesn't look like it's getting a season two. Anyone who says they can't listen to his music anymore clearly weren't big enough fans of his to begin with. I think doing a show like this at the height of his career wasn't the smartest decision, but he clearly wants to go in a different direction creatively and he should be allowed to do that. telling him to "stick to music" kind of isn't fair but I get why people are saying it
I'm a huge fan of him and his music. But I can't keep supporting someone who doesn't respect women and this show confirmed the red flags I had been ignoring for years. It's one thing to sing about sex and stuff, but it's another to take a show portraying thw abuse women suffer in the industry and change it to a less feminine perspective (his words). Then, remove all substance from it, add too many torture p*rn scenes and end it by shifting the blame on the victim and make the abuser the poor victim!! No way it's just straight up insulting to women and children suffering in this industry. He's just as bad as Tedros IMO.
oh he will absolutely bounce back. he isnt my cup of tea personality, never was but he was always unlikeable to me
@@Nivieee sorry but you clearly were never fan of his music, the Weeknd has made songs 10x more vulgar than anything portrayed in the idol. Trilogy is literally a prime example.
Defending The Weeknd after all his misogynistic behavior is wack… you’re unhinged
@@justaguywholikeshentai4093 there is always going to be a different in how people reaction to a poem with music going along to it vs visual scenes telling a very specific story in a very specific way. you and I might differ on the what Trilogy really means of if he is really does view woman a certain way - the show is very clear and his statements and defenses don't really lead to anywhere but one place. Perhaps seeing the show and circus around it makes someone decided a different take on Trilogy too.
So, no, ignoring red flags or possible red flags from the past doesn't prove they weren't a fan, or a true Scotsman.
So The Weekend is pulling a Chance The Rapper on us? He's essentially getting upset that people don't like something he's done and instead of ignoring it or accepting the critism he's replying to almost everyone who clowns on him and making himself look bad in the process.
the thing is, he helped produce and co-write the show. not to mention all of the rumours and allegations that came up in regard to the previous director. the quote ''too much from a female's perspective'' rightfully rubbed people the wrong way...
Which is good. When people complain about 'wokeness' it usually is a hit at the box office. See the Mario movie on release day. What does that say about this piece of crap show?
Y'all. Someone said on Twitter they had to delete all The Weekend songs from their playlists. Imagine people hating a show so bad, they gotta rid you from their music. I-
People are so dramatic
clearly they only started listening to him during after hours/when blinding lights came out lmao
I actually had to do the same thing
Eh, people can do whatever they want. If an artist made someone uncomfortable, people just don’t see the music the same way and don’t wanna listen to it anymore and that happens all the time.
I get it. Tedros was ick 😂
He comes off as someone who always wanted to get into the film industry but was also a really talented singer as well. In fact he talks about the weeknd as almost like a role or persona his playing.
Through the music his made and the love his gotten he clearly build up this image in his mind about who and what he thought he was and could do. Sadly for him, putting this into tv series and letting the world see it gave him the harsh truth that just because you can play a persona as a musican doesn't mean it will look as good in a tv series. The show wasn't even about what most of us thought, it was not about taking advantage of a young female in the industry but more so about his character. It was a show build for him and his acting career. Not to mention also promote his new music.
I like the weeknds music but he seriously overestimated himself here and him going off on twitter shows he really did care. Now with his body of work in music, im sure he will be find but what a waste of time that was.
This, this literally happened with Halle Bailey in the little mermaid live action remake, she fucking sucked at acting cause she's a singer and a performer, not an actor.
Telling people to not watch a show bc it’s horrible is no different from telling people to watch a show because they think it’s amazing 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
I feel bad for Lily Depp i just want her to be apart of one, just one, successful film set with a good story because i feel like she’s been done so dirty considering 90% of all she’s been apart of is either mediocre or just terrible:.. even if she’s a good actor, this is ruining her trying to seriously start her career and it angers me
Right and let’s ignore she is a fully grown woman making decisions. She grew up in the industry as the nepo child of a famous actor. She should know trash from not. Not to mention she asking for more nude scenes and then proceed to whore herself out for fame and success. She deserved every ounce of embarrassment.
You feel bad for a nepo baby with a succesfull modeling career?
She’s a nepo baby, she will be fine 🙄
I think she also had big boots to fill considering her legendary father so the pressure was definitely on
She'll be okay lol
See my thing is that I don’t even care about the character he played, it’s more so the fact he FIRED the first director for making the show too much of a “female perspective” but… he himself and the team decided to make the lead a female 💀 like ofc it’s gonna talk more about the main character, that’s how stories work
As such a huge star/persona he never should have played such a seedy character in a show like the Idol. People would on any level begin to associate him with Tedros Tedros. Other real life pop stars like Jennie Kim and Troye Sivan would smart to take less edgy and more supportive roles in such a dark and explicit project.
He put 100% into his music and because of that he had 0% left for his acting lol
He shouldn't get so upset in a field he's inexperienced in. Instead, he should take in the criticism (both good and bad) to help further along his acting abilities.
Yeah ppl are forgetting artist like the Weeknd aren't professional actors.. then get mad when it's bad 😂
He never earned or deserved this opportunity and took this project away from an experienced female director. He was lucky to be successful in music and should stay in his lane
Man, everyone has a downfall eventually, don't they?
Yup which is why you never stan anyone
I really love The Weeknd and his music but this was a terrible idea honestly
@@niathomas184Same and agree
@@niathomas184people will forgot in a year and he'll be back on top the attention span nowadays is too short so don't worry he can still put out music that you and the public will enjoy and become smash hit songs, I don't think his involvement in the show was such a bad idea
@@jasmeetsandhu229 Honestly, I can’t tell if you're right or if this whole thing is gonna be the catalyst for a hate train. Either of those would be stupid imo tho (either people overreact in the moment when they end up forgetting about it anyway, or they tear someone down for something as harmless as a project they didn't enjoy)
I don’t think I’ll ever be able to look at The Weeknd as a sexy, dark, musician again.
He will forever be Tedros to me.
Same.
Abel has always given me the sleazy/ick Covert Narc type vibe. He's insanely talented, But lets be real here i don't think his character is that far off from who Abel is lol. Celebs are fucking weird and 90% toxic because they live a life that isn't realistic.
With the way, the last episode played out I’m sorry, but for anyone who pretends like Ables character isn’t reflected in the show is a little dense.
I won’t spoil it but they do show a lot of sympathy to his abusive character by adding the dumbest plot twist. It just screams self-insert and someone who is unable with being portrayed like an actual villain.
he's... unabel?
@@nnadi118stop 💀 💀 💀
SHE'S THE VILLIAN ALL ALONG
The Idol is just plain bad but, the only props I can give it is its music. The music is legitimately good. Abel just needs to do music period. He can't act. He's just not good at it. He needs to stick to what he's good at, music.
I am just tired of seeing repulsive sexual stuff in the TV shows and movies nowadays. It feels like not a single thing cannot be created without it. Like, i don’t wanna watch this fantasy porn bs, not even with my boyfriend because it makes me legit uncomfortable.
HBO needs to stop putting out this kind of bs, and i feel like TV shows as a whole need to sit down and think about what kind of bs they’ve been putting out
The one time I agree with the Rolling Stone. They did warn us what the show would entail.
Same mag who had the photo of the Boston Bomber like he had just dropped a rock album?
I don't think it's really about people confusing the Weekend with Tedros (although, he made really everything in his power for us to confuse it because of the role and its context) or being shocked by explicit content: we've all heard the Weekend's music and seen Euphoria. I just think it's really about bad work that has been packaged as edgy and being constantly told by the Weekend (or else) that it's good and we just don't get it. When it's not - and no amount of trauma, sexual content, verbal abuse etc. being displayed on the screen will make it so. I think audiences just don't like to be taken as idiots - hence the outrage.
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I really hope you achieve all your goals this year dude! You're a great creator and such a hard worker! Rooting for you hard this year
Abel should just stick to music.
I’m not even a Weeknd fan, but I’m reading the comments and they’re throwing me off. I guess his last couple albums did the trick and made ppl forget (I didnt listen to them so I could be wrong) but I definitely remember his earlier projects and the character he plays on this show is actually very on par with a lot of that lyrical content. Tedros is very House of Balloons/Trilogy Weeknd. I gave him a listen back then cuz he was buzzing and all my friends were listening, but I just couldn’t get into him cuz I didnt like his voice and his content came off more predatory and creepy to me than sexy or mysterious or whatever tf girls like/d about him and his music.
‘TheWeeknd’ in itself is a character, a persona. A criticism of sex and the pimp life. However, his content can become real like ‘Next’, ‘In The Night’, ‘The Birds part 1&2’. They tell the story of an abused stripper, TheWeeknd’s true emotions to sex, and the consequences of his actions.
We have women in the industry singing nothing but sex, is that also not creepy and predatory to men?
Same. His songs are creepy…..
@@bodybuild5975Oh come on man Take My Breath Away and Breathe are no longer a story. It's creepy with context, yes. Snoop can sing 'bam bam cop down' but I never saw him shoot a copper. If he's in a TV show saying 'that's how hid the cop's body' and he co-produced the show it's not just a role, turn I'd start worrying
@@falconeshield Analogy falls flat considering that Snoop Dog wouldn’t of actually killed a Cop because it’s a TV Show. TheWeeknd is a character, he’s meant to be provocative and sexual. Yet, if you listen to ‘Twenty Eight’, ‘In The Night’ there are references to addiction and diving within the complexity of each character.
@@bodybuild5975 character this character that. Why can't men ever play nice characters? "It's a character" total BS. It's who they really want to be, but they're putting "character" in front of it so they can use it as a defense whenever they want.
He got no sex appeal and charisma. I'm so sorry.
This is probably an unpopular opinion but I've always felt ick vibes from The Weekend.
Also Lily-Rose Depp did a great job. This is the first work I've seen from her and she delivered.
I only have one small problem with Lily Rose she doesn’t give pop star vibes. More like a glamours actress or a model. She gives so much Kate moss vibes, so hard for me to believe she is a pop star.
I will never ever be able to look at him the same way again because not only did he act in it, he produced it and scrapped most of it cause he said it was "too feminine". Lily Rose Depp acted down tho.
he should have remained mysterious mannnnnn now people believe this is how his true personality is
You left a LOT of information out in this brother.
I think the problem (beside the bad acting) is that there was a part of mystery and darkness (in a « sexy way » I’ll say) around The Weeknd persona. The fact that he wanted to separate himself from his character in this show and his real life persona (that nobody really know about) is very confusing. It makes you think that he really acts like that in real life. Plus the show is shot at his home, he did the entire soundtrack, the ending is taking place during his real life concert, etc. so people are seeing Tedros as The Weeknd and nothing else.
Even if the show was good you’re still gonna get people who don’t like the show and hate watch the show and troll. You just have to deal with it.
but its wasn't a good show. it was weird, fetishased cringe. idk if you watched or not but if you did watch the show you know how bad its (especially the ending)
I get the doomed if you do doomed if you don't approach but when we actually view the material of the show it sucks
@@tms3119 I didn’t watch it but I saw some reviews and it was a cringe fest. He just doesn’t know how to handle it.
@@flyphoenix22 trur
@@flyphoenix22 true I mean lmao
The weeknd isnt acting at all. He's simply being himself and he's just shocked its rubbing people the wrong way😂😂😂
Yeah, Abel should just stick with music that show was a complete dumpster fire to say the very least
Yup he can’t act and that’s ok. He should accept he can’t be good at everything.
Literally the minute I started getting into his music he started to do shit like this 😭
Going back 10 years ago The Weeknd was one of the coolest guys in the music industry, all the women loved him, all the guys wanted to be him. House of Balloons, Thursday, Echoes of Silence, Kissland, Beauty Behind the Madness... the guy was a superstar and no one knew hardly anything about him, 9/10 people didn't even know how he sounded when he talked normally. Now we are here, over a decade later and the world is cringing at him... I never would have guessed in a million years that would have happened 🤣
Dude made his character the victim in the end. Dude is ass as an actor and his ego hijacked the original ideas because it was focused too much on the female experience. Now he has to own the shit show and doesn’t like. 😢
No wonder why his fandom is so toxic and narcissistic hypocrites.
His acting is wild but the music still hits
3:21 he took on a producer role and had a huge part in getting OG director fired saying the show “was going into too much of a female direction” he’s not just acting in it he’s a huge part of the story creation process
Me shaking the Weeknd while slapping his face " TEDROS GET OUT OF THIS BODY, IT'S OVER NOW"
Worst show ever
Dude probably comes across just like this in real life.
the thing is, i’ve seen plenty of actor and actresses that can criticize the characters they portray, and recognize that they’re evil or something they hate. but the weeknd can’t do anything else but cry and defend that awful character… wonder why.
me too. i love to see actor interviews. they always talk about how they can/ can't relate to the character and maybe why the character can be seen as a good/ bad person then move on. its like it really is him so its personal lol i guess i can see why he had bella hadid for many years. she must be so incredibly insecure, that he seems like a ''good choice'' he can make himself look good to an audience but one one one getting to know him is just as creepy and unlikable as his ''character''
@@GotoMaki4Micah exactly, and also if you check the lyrics he writes… he shows he’s not very different from the character…
One would’ve never thought the weekend was like this , he always seemed so nice
For some reason, HBO allowed Sam and Abel to shove the original showrunner out and go on this egofest that gave the public nothing they could care about. Just a weird show coming out of weird circumstances.
6 minute video and you barely said anything. I like how you didnt bring up the big main reasons why people dont like this show. Smh
The Idol feels like an extended version of a Weeknd music video from the trilogy days
The show had so much potential! Unfortunately the focus was too much on Abel’s fucked up character than other more interesting characters like Jennie who was gearing up to replace Lily-Rose’s character as the new “idol”. To me this felt like some kind of sick fantasy Abel had and we all know how much Sam Levinson loves to humiliate his female characters with unnecessary sex scenes. This felt like a male dom fantasy throughout…
Why isn’t anyone talking about how fantastic the soundtrack is?! Not to mention, Lily-Rose Depp actually sang for the show and more people should commend her for that imo
Him dropping the weekend name would be complete career death.
The reason I wasn’t open to watching the show as an XO fan is because I didn’t want Abel to lose his elusiveness to me as a fan. But alas, I couldn’t escape it. With all The Idol tweets, clips and media outrage, you don’t have to watch the show to be impacted by it
Yeah it's pretty damn bad. I mean I feel the same can happen to actual professional actors, they play one 'wrong' role and everyone starts hating their guts for it. Ppl are weird.
Sam levinson and the weekend took most of the writing and producing of the show from the female co writers and producers who were steam rolled which really shows in the idol unfortunately
He thought he would come off about this hot,mysterious,powerful guy but just came out as cringy,pathethic and ugly "cause hes short"😂
Remember when he was quiet and mysterious and a great musical storyteller???
Euphoria also a dark master peice is endlessly praised and popularized, yet the Idol is about legal adults..and Euphoria is about underage, teenagers. I don't think the Idol deserves this backlash. It's not for sensitive viewers period.
he should just go back to being mysterious and lowkey again. it's better seeing his personality through good music than whatever the hell this show is.
I don't think critics police the watching experience of others, I think it's more about not supporting shitty writing that does nothing for the commentary on abuse, power dynamics and the struggles of celebrities, since it kinda romanticizes all those issues.
a lot of the people saying they are “disappointed” by abel after watching clearly only started listening to him during after hours/dawn fm era and it shows lmao
i love his music. its so good but now whenever i listen his songs only thing i can hear is his cringe lines from The Idol that's why i don't listen him rn.
i hope i will be cured from this soon bc i really love him as a singer😢
no. trilogy was 10 years ago. What it shows is that a lot of his audience has OUTGROWN the 'fucbois with a porn and drug addiction are so cool' phase while you losers didn't. Better yet, you feel elitist because of it and this is what makes you legit losers lmao
been listening to him since bbtm and i can't listen to his music the same anymore after this god awful show.
I don’t think it has anything to do with that. It just has to do with the fact that they’re disappointed in his actions, it has nothing to do with his music lmao.
@@MarlenaTheCreatoreah you should definitely see doctor because i think you’re mentally r3t4rd3d and racist lmao. Where was this energy for Nate Jacobs and Evan Peters’ Dahmer? No cancel campaign for them? I wonder why 🤔
Brought to you be the same people creating the uproar and divide
And succeeding at it.
Weeknd peaked After hours and the last good thing he's made is Dawn FM