George RR Martin on the Controversial Cersei Scene
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This man needs a body guard and a doctor with him at all times. He is too precious to lose.
D&D would like to send their regards to him
Bodyguards won't do, see Jamie Lannister.
Either Jaime or Barristan
After the way season 8 concluded the ones who are gonna need body guards is D&D. Now i understand why they went to an undisclosed location and turned off theyre phones like they said in that interview.
I ve seen the end of the GoT so I could not care less what he would write now :) or even if he dont finish his book :)
Hearing George say "books" gives me life
Buox
Honestly love how he says the word 😂
Tristan Magni i was reading your comment at the same time he said books lol
That is quite relatable
Ndabuox
George has a such a precise, well-thought out, well-spoken and diplomatic answer to ever question ever asked of him. He's such a genuine guy! :)
Wait, is he diplomatic or genuine?
He's like Tyrion
Who knew genuine=diplomatic
@@LyraTyrell You can be both
@@gerardgag Not really, atleast not at the same time. Being genuine is being honest and real, being diplomatic is leaving our certain things and sugarcoating other things in order to appease the target audience.
Everyone: "Wtf these two doofs turned a consensual sex scene into a rape scene, HOW COULD THEY!!!"
GRRM: "Why is no one talking about the public incest, profanation of sacred ground, and the lovers' disrespect for their own dead son???"
in the same vein no one is complaining about men dying in war, or about the fact that theon gets brutaly tortured and mutilated into insanity?
@@tommerker8063 people like to pick and choose what theyre gonna be offended by depending on the day of the week and the weather.
@@eliasnavarrette2020 not realy, it's more like if it happens to a women it's bad, if it happens to a man it's fine.
@@tommerker8063 the things in your list are must worst,yet they are germane to the setting and context IMO
@@gabrielpadilla7839 sorry, but i don't understand that sentence could you elaborate?
Man I can’t imagine creating so many characters, their personalities/motives/histories/speech patterns, and then even remembering all of those personality traits over five (hopefully eventually seven) novels. GRRM is a creative powerhouse and the Tolkien of our era for sure.
Watch your mouth
Matthew Witherspoon ???
Truly it's mind-boggling how creative he is ❤️
I enjoy that about his writing. He (sometimes) writes (major) women as humans. He did the same thing for Loras. Book Loras was a knight first, gay man second. Show Loras was reduced to simply being the gay character
If you don't pay attention in the books you wouldn't even catch that loras is gay. My buddy read the book first and show second asked "did I miss something? Loras is gay?"
@@jordanbarnett7247 saaaaaaame. I didnt know till i was reading a wiki about renly
Shows how much these SJWs or whatever group are obsessed with race and identity. It's dumb. To give credit to the show, Tyrion in both books and show was Tyrion first and dwarf second.
@@PuffTheMagicHobo wow only took 4 days for someone to complain about the strawma....i mean "sjws"
@@aricente Yeah, I stop taking anyone's arguments seriously when they throw these provocative catch terms around.
GRRM thinks out everything so well no doubt he'd win the game of thrones
Will Edwards dumbass 🤣😂😂😂
Perhaps, but it’d take him decades.
Well, he is the Lord of Light
@@MoBot249 Hmmmm, sounds interesting :)
He doesn't want it.
Hey guys, remember when a fuckup of ONE book scene because of anediting mishap was the show's biggest criticism?
Good times. Good...good times.
Hey remember when bran said he isn't interested in ruling? Nah that never happened...
@Mr. Dong They were really trying to ram the "Good Kings don't want to be King" point home but forgot that the person there has to be selfless not selfish.
Which is why the One True King is the only logical choice as Monarch.
:)))) good one...
@Fabian Kirchgessner You have good taste.
@@Longshanks1690 Remember when the worst rated season of GoT was still at 8.3?
I remember........the North remembers.....
I think people need to remember.......
THESE ARE NOT children's books, nor was the HBO series.
People ALLOW their children to watch, that is their business.
There is NO reason make ALL forms of media family friendly.
Step up to the plate people and take some time and responsibility to engage with your kids and find out what they are doing.......
Exactly! My 14 yr old son wants to watch so bad. I told him hes soooo not ready for this show yet. We dont even let our 17 yr old daughter watch it yet
@blackwhite perro jst feel like theres so much adult material in there. Theyve seen r rated films and I'm sure probli see nudity in movies they watch on their own but theres just a ton of it in GoT. And acts that they may not quite understand fully, esp the 14yr old who is stil very much a kid lol. I figure a couple more yrs couldnt hurt to wait.
@blackwhite perro lol me too
@@amandahamm8987 And THAT is being a responsible parent.
It is up to YOU to decide when they are ready to do things.
Not the media, not the public in general and not even the schools.
YOU are ultimately responsible for the well being of your kids.
@@jonduggan7433 u are absolutely rite sir! I know They think theyr old enuf for certain things but theyr not. They luv all the old skool Freddy and friday the 13th toys and merchandise wich is fine but when it comes to the movies i am not okay with the message in thos films. They dont need to see underage drinkin and drug use or boys pressurin gurls to have sex and gurls feelin like they have to and that its acceptable. Thats not the way i want my boys to act towards future girlfriends or just any girl in general. And it is not the way i want my girls to feel like they have to be ok with.
I could listen to him talk about literally anything for hours
audio books narrated by him
George, please don't stop writing the "messy" scenes because life is is not a "bowl of chocolates." I love/hate the way you torture both your male and female characters, and love/hate the way these characters were changed by their trials. Most of them for the better. Can't wait for the rest of the story! Thank you!
You're right life is NOT a bowl of chocolate, it's a box of chocolates.
Lmfao I dont know if you meant bowl but I've never seen someone fuck up that quote in that way
We get your point but its weird seeing the term bowl of chocolates. It's either a box of chocolates, or a bowl of cherries. Or do it like George: life is not a song.
I don't like the way you put quotes around things that don't need quotes
Like a bowl in a china shop :P
The moral of this story, don't allow your books to be adapted until they are finished. Also, don't adapt something until it's completely finished. Can you imagine how much better this would have been if all parties concerned waited? The showrunners and Martin both lose, if you ask me.
We all lose bro. Nobody wants to rewatch this shit now. The most ill do is watch youtube clips now.
Nah this is probably a win for Martin. It gave his books vastly more coverage and possibly popularity. And while the shows ending has made many feel let down, at the same time it's made the demand and desire for a finished book series, as well as love for Martin's writing style, higher than ever before.
tell that to their bank accounts LOL
If you're waiting for Mr. George to finish his books any time soon, good luck. People would wait 1000 years for Mr. George to finish his work or there to be a new season. It's clear the creators worked as best as they could and they clearly expected a writer like Mr. George to finish his work by the time they reached a certain point on the show. The issue is that a writer can't get involved when their own work isn't done yet, meaning, no spoilers, so the creators had to invent anything that came to mind.
@@lxdm26 right? They're raking up all that money while people are bitching and crying
I feel sorry for GRRM sometimes. He must get frustrated explaining his work as it appears in the TV show and constantly having to refer back to how it really is in the books. You can tell that he just wants people to read the damn books to experience the story of A Song of Ice and Fire for how it really was meant to be told.
I agree. The show does expand in some positive ways, but in some negative ways too.
I'm amazed at the way he talks. He's such an intelligent well spoken man. I hope he finishes the series & completes the other projects he's working on. We need as much of his work in our world before we unfortunately lose him. I hope that will be a long while away yet.
Never looked into him before though I enjoy Game of Thrones. What a nice, humble, intelligent classy guy. I wish these were the "celebrities" we lauded in society for the youth to emulate; but then I suppose that wouldn't work.
I need to hear his thoughts on season 8 lawl
Madam Xaela he said he is sad
He is sad that they ddnt do 10 seasons and play it out and explain things better. He did say in an interview(and if i can find it ill send u the link) that he talked with the writers every step and what they did with the main plots and how the show ended is pretty much spot in in how he did it in the books. The onli real difrances bein the smaller charachters who are either not in the books but were made into characters on the show or were stil living in the books but not on the show.
@@amandahamm8987 Hit me up with that link fam.
@@Simplejackfade I may hav saved it to my watch list and I'll look thru all my vids. If not I'll try to find it and share the link
@Zarion 11 I agree. While I would hav loved to hav had 2 more seasons, jst bcuz I love the show, and I did like the last season the feel of the show just changed
He’s such an interesting person
Yes, George, take your time. Know that there are countless beings who love you and your work, and who want you happy along the way. We are the majority of your fandom, and our love is unconditional. Our gratitude will not fade away ever.
💙 ☮️
Geez, cults of personality are not only a thing in politics it seems O.o
@@PostScarcitytCat nothing cultish about it.... Creative people need time and space to do their work, and our society is constantly pushing bullshit over what really matters, mostly pushing money over everything else... Life is so much more than that.
@@lella2201 Agreed!
I appreciate that he takes the time to think about his answers before he speaks. This man is an absolute genius.
So his name is actually Game of Thrones, the author of George RR Martin
Fuckkk I literally spit my water out! I read your comment when it came on the video!
If would be his name is A Song of Ice And Fire
@John Volken Gah-meh...like my reaction to the finale.
Very rare these days how someone can give his opinion and disagree with others as gracefully, no one gets put down, and everyone understands his point of view
I like how after every question he gets asked he takes a small pause to think of a proper response
When you realise that a small directing mistake caused so much criticism in an earlier season of thrones;which was so painfully true to the books.....
Compared to the atrocious writing we have now!!
@@TheJester39 You don't need to be a writer. Your basically saying he needs a license for his opinion. Try not being so stupid. You can watch something and have an opinion about it. GOT season 8 was terrible, it ruined character arcs, it destroyed enemies in the most anticlimactic way imaginable, it made onset mistakes, it was just a complete shitshow.
Covfefe Hamberder if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... You don’t need to be fucking duck to know it’s a duck.
@@TheJester39 you've got a trump hitler as your pic. Who cares what you think
@@TheJester39 no you have no clue. youre a conformist who just goes with the flow. youre too weak to question anything or think for yourself or use your brain
@@TheJester39 What's the shocker? You say he can't have an opinion because he's not a writer. Hey guys turns out you can't say what music is good or bad if your not musician.
I haven't ready any of his stuff but I love George as a person. He seems like someone I would be glad to know.
I love that he makes his female characters wonderfully diverse, flawed, amazing, disturbing, strong and weak rather than just all super heroes like fake feminists have pushed for. We women are simply human, filled with all that comes with that. I’d be proud to call him a feminist brother.
....what about a sexual object? Is there something wrong with that?
But You read, your thougths let me see that. Sadly, most so called feminists don't know what feminism is and stand for in first place, that's why we have to see all kind of stupid things and miss representations of empowered women.
Fuck feminism. And fuck you.
Wanting some superheroes to be women isn't the same as wanting all female characters to be superheroes
@@christina7215 from your comments on this video you're either a dogshit troll or the absolute worst humanity has to offer. either way, get a fucking life
I have enjoyed every interview I have seen with George RR Martin! What an inspiration he is ❤️
To the ppl who say "hurry". Have you not learnt?
We want george to hurry not dickhead and dickface
They haven't learned a thing. ☝️
@@ronjeremy1232 You have no clue, do you?
It's already been 15 years man😫
@@deepakjena9809 its been 9 shut up
I have to like every video where George RR Martin is talking why am I so obsessed with this guy!
As soon as he said "you've been praised", I knew he was going to the "how you've written women".
“I’m such a feminist I can’t even call myself a feminist”
Whenever I want to reassure myself for D&D’s bad writing I search for George’s explanation to the scene...
To be fair, having a 9 years gap between 2 books, I can understand fans getting impatient.
I remember a few years ago:
My Daughter: Mum are you excited?
Me: Huh, about what?
Daughter: Game of Thrones is back on next week.
Me: Nah, I haven't been watching it.
Daughter: How can you not have watched it? Season FOUR is staring in eleven days.you have to watch it. Then she loaned me her season 1-3 blu-rays.
I pretty much binged the first three seasons in 10 days. It was glorious. By the time I was finished I had to wait a day to watch the season 4 premier.
I love the way George always says “in da books”
There's a real talent in being able to give interesting and well articulated answers to inane and vapid questions
Do people that say game of thrones is normalising rape and incest also say that it is normalising dragons and white walkers?
Those folks should understand writing is not easy it can exhaust the mind & body. Its mostly perspiration not inspiration. They should know a writer is not a slave, a writer is a person.
what a genius this man is ...
I love that he points out not all his female characters are "strong." That's why his female characters are so good, they aren't just "strong" parodies like most modern "strong female characters." They're just realistic people written realistically.
I thought this was about the Jaime and Cersei reunion in Season 8 which is actually controversial, I was ready to see how angry at it he is. Oh well!
he is talking about the controversial rape scene between Cersei and Jaime in front of a dead Joffrey
Me tooo! I was hoping he’d hate the last season as much as the rest of us!
Amy Pattie I thought he stopped watching the show years ago
10/10 well thought out and eloquently put answers.
I like the way he says ‘books’
The show allowed the showrunners to show their style and exhibit full creative freedom as there was nothing to adapt. They failed abysmally and scored a measly 0.3 points out of 10. No fan of the books would ever butcher the story the way these idiots did. For a character-driven story they failed to understand any of the characters they were trying to portray and decided to throw their entire character development out the window to move forward a narrative that was nonsensical at best and lazy fanfiction at worst. I can tell you way more about characters' ambitions, motivations and personalities than D&D and I don't even get paid. I do it because I'm passionate about the masterpiece that is ASOIAF. I doubt the showrunners are and I reckon I could write better than them. These imbeciles don't even get an E for Effort. I learned a valuable lesson in never rushing things so I'll be looking forward to TWOW when it finally comes out in 2026.
SirRatfixFoulhorn Let's see your writing, then talk.
dynomax101 you don’t need to be a professional chef to know that shit is not very tasty
The women in the books are amazing. I almost feel like the variety is way bigger than within male characters. GOT has a lot "broken male hero" characters. But the women who had their own chapters are completely different and their development focuses on comletely differe traits of themselvs - Cersei, Arya, Denerys, Ketlin, Sansa, Brienne (oh i love Brienne so much..)
(Also sorry if names arent accurately spelled out I have the book in Polish and idk how these names might be spelled in english properly haha)
Theres a difference from a woman being a feminist to simply being a strong female character.
Comes across as a lovely gentle man. Intelligent and brilliant.
Ppl give JRR Martin crap for including incest in his books. But the way he portrays it is actually as it is. Something that is wrong.
The men can be feminists. Yes.
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George has always been such a beast at dodging those PC bullets with calm, quiet logic
two seconds later he said that he didn’t want to identify himself as feminist *in order to be PC*
@@caman225 the feminists would eat him alive though haha.
At least he agrees that the story has fuck all to do with feminsim and more with good story and characters
@@WookieWarriorz Almost every feminist I've ever met has praised game of thrones for having strong female leads, though.
Jesus Christ 🙄
Just so you know GRRM said Trump is like Joffreg. Thought you may like to know that 😽
I wasn't really how I felt about George R. R. Martin originally, but the more I hear from him he seems like a really nice guy.
I've always liked his surefooted nature in supporting and substantiating the more scandalous parts of his own work.
Have not read any of his books but my goodness, if his books are as thought provoking as he is, count me in; I’ve really grown to respect and appreciate his mind. What a guy.
The books are much better than the show
I wish he was my grandpa. Even though he is younger than my parents.
Strong meaning well-developed, not mary-suey
I think most people that are frustrated that he's doing things like HBO musicals aren't saying don't live your life the way you want to live it. I think they're saying please finish this before you die and we never know what happens.
"in the BOOOKS"
How is there not a meme of George saying “indaBOOKS”?
I'm addicted to George RR Martin videos lol. I need to take a break. His mind is just beautiful though.
This guy really is a genius. Just hearing him speak, he really sounds like an alright guy too. Protect this man
Don't worry George, most of the feminist movement think that a man can be a feminist, just shouldn't speak on behalf of woman when they can represent themselves. So careful and calculated in his thought
@@IBeJaMz this is why we need feminism.
@@ichbinjasokreativ2452 not in the vast majority of the western world we don't
Feminism used to be about gender equality.
I don’t know what it’s become nowadays.
@@kmjkmjkmj no.
Katharina Mackenzie Jakobsen right? How about that all male pro-life vote in Alabama? We absolutely still do.
Challenge: Take a shot when he tells "Books"
He may take as much time as he likes to write his books. They are his works of art. I would however love a garuntee that his cliff notes and plot outline will be published should it takes him 3 or 4 more decades and he.... let's say, gets too old to finish. An unfinished plot is the one thing that drives humans absolutely crazy. I don't mind waiting until my old age, but never knowing how the story ends would be unbearable 😉
People, even when he is visiting *FAMILY* back home, are saying he should be writing instead? Wow. Those people are sickening.
Who also thought that he would be talking about Cersei’s death in the latest episode ?
Alot of channels are gonna reupload old videos and make it seem like new interview since the show just finished.
Why? George has nothing to do with the show anymore, he doesn't even watch the show.
Left over monday obviously not everybody knows that
Killua Zoldyck Nice name dude
I fucking love Hunter x Hunter
Lasse Knuth one of the best animes out there my guy, thank you.
I love you George
People doubt what GRR is trying to accomplish with the books.
I firmly believe it only takes a few minutes of him discussing his work to convince most people of what he can still accomplish.
Writing a book takes time.
Wrapping up a series of books more so, especially when we're already as far in as we are.
One day, we might see the entirety of the SoIaF books, and i don't mind that day being as far away as it is, because i don't want the series ruined through a conclusion that seems rushed, or doesn't fit in line with the rest of the story so far.
You know, _no heat-seaking, guided ICBM Ballistas and all that. ;)_
This is a great dude , he’s so proud of his work n it’s obvious at times he’s annoyed at how successful the show was in contrast to the books, but the books should be touted as the highest form of his fiction being told…there is no game of thrones without George r r Martin
Meanwhile in S8 all males are portrayed as dumb idiots and women are making all decisions. Main conflict is between women, there’s hardly a conflict between men. In the last episode there was a hint of a conflict between Snow and Grey Worm, but that was left alone.
Sansa became the Queen of North. For what reason?
And how they massacred Jon Snow’s character... ;(
This man is magical. So clever
The only people who seem "offended" by all these throne chapters are reporters. I'm so tired of this "How do you feel about X controversy"....stop reading them if they're not for you.
what is "throne chapters"?
@@linegenrou chapters in the Game of Thrones novels.
GRRM is the man. Gem of a human being
I’m very sad & disappointed after the shit stain of season 8. I can’t wait until GRRM releases the later books.
@@TheJester39 the problem with season 7 and 8 is that its just plot points with no substance in between. D and D have proven that without source material they are incompetent. even if the last 2 books take a similar direction, it will have better pacing and more explanation to the characters actions. and although the books can take a similar direction to the show, they cant take the exact direction. there are major characters in the book who arent even in the show at all, and there are characters who died a long time ago that lived far longer in the show. all of this has a great impact on the actual story and in the end makes it far different from what is portrayed on film. for example in the books, daenerys isnt the only targaryen. aegon targaryen turns out to still be alive and invades westeros with the golden company. thats a pretty game changing event that doesnt happen in the show what so ever. the differences from book and tv from the second book on are immense. to suggest the books will play out an ending thats identical or extremely similar to the show is just ludicrous.
@@TheJester39 You have 0 logic dude. You dont have to be a fcking writer to see that this season is a complete mess. Rushed is an euphemism. And you are just whining and complaining over others complaints.. wtf
Come on George...We are waiting to read what really happens in the end of Game of Thrones.
I looked for this scene in the books and it did not happen the same way in the show. Cersei consented multiple times and it was on the alter of the Mother, not the alter of the Stranger where Joffrey's body is. I don't understand why D&D changed it to be rape and completely different than it is.
Oh it's this interview. I thought it was gonna be him talking about episode 5...
I wish!!
the reason season 7 and 8 was mediocre was cause the producers of the show didnt have anything to go on. they had to think up the manuscripts themselves, as GRRM wasnt even finished writing the final books.
He will make Hotpie king in the books !
fire and gravy
@@TheJester39 you keep saying this on every single comment but how do you know? if you read the books or knew anything about them, then you wouldnt be saying this. but you havent. i can tell.
The fact that people would tell an old man visiting his family that he should be home writing is fucked. I mean how entitled are you.
A true national treasure! Good Job GRRM!
The entire Game of Thrones world is a brutal world, the books aren’t advocating that kind of brutality, they are just exploring a world where it exists. And the ramifications of that brutality. The way the books treat women come straight out of our own feudal system that didn’t really end that long ago in historical timeframes. Women were Hostages, or past around for alliances to seal contracts between families, hell Some of that shit still happens today. If anything, I think the books shine a great lens on just how twisted and barbaric it was for everybody in those kind of systems, particularly poor people and women.
Love the books can’t wait next book to come out
George didn't get the message that you can't have weak women, or cowardly women, or evil women or dumb women.
"Tell us about the controversial scene and the reaction it's gotten."
"It was never supposed to be a feel good scene, most of the characters in the series do controversial things."
"Would you describe your books as feminist considering the strong portrayals of women?"
"I portray women as human beings."
hahaha I bet those who lost their shit at that scene were cheering and celebrating while Joffrey choked in his own blood. What a world, and people still think they can lecture anyone on moral.
Look I found an intelligent comment.
Give the man a break he needs a life too. I’m sure going out and interacting with people gives him inspiration for his books.
GGRM didnt want to say they fucked it up
He’s incredible
I sincerely doubt there are hundreds of fans saying take your time for every one fan that’s upset that there hasn’t been an actual ASOIAF book in 11 years, while there have been hundreds of side projects of little importance going on.
"normalizing rape"
rape was normalized in the culture Game of Thrones is based on. if the gravity and brutality of the past is not remembered it is going to be repeated.
I dont think a book series or show should be categorized as feminist just because they have strong female characters. From a writing perspective, it's lazy to add a character that's incredibly skilled/powerful, make them female, and say "Look we appeased the masses." The best characters, female or otherwise, are the ones that are well written and have time to grow and/or evolve. I always go back to the example of Katara from avatar the last airbender. When she's first introduced she's a helpless girl from an isolated tribe. As the show progresses, we see her grow increasingly powerful and confident in her ability, and that is what makes her a compelling character.
I could listen to GRRM talk all day
I wouldn't say there is a huge market in tv and movies for 'epic fantasy' per se, but fantasy as a whole, absolutely. The vast majority of movies which make the biggest money are within the fantasy genre. Harry Potter, Hobbit and LOTR, Star Wars, Marvel, Disney, DC Comics, Avatar, Pirates of the Caribbean, it's all fantasy. As for television i'm not exactly sure. I know that sports, reality television/sitcoms and music dominate a lot of the television market, Super Bowl, NFL, Eastenders, World Cup, Olympics, Wimbledon, Big Bang Theory, MTV, American Idol, NCIS, Grace and Frankie, Friends from College, The Voice, Dancing With the Stars.
"I am indubitably male"
- George Raymond Richard Martin
I'm really confused at to why authors are blamed for writing a historically-accurate book, which includes modern controversial topics, that were a nomral thing back then.
As well as them conding their characters actions. They are authors, not biographers or politicans, who share their views. No. An author's job is to write a compelling story and trying to make people think about things. And George did that
I don't think the scene is particularily problematic. What is problematic is the discussion, whether this scene in the real world would be received as rape or not. In my book, forcing someone into a situation for sex that they don't want (even if they are down for sex in general) is rape. If you penetrate a woman somewhere she doesn't want, even if she previously was down for it, is rape. Pulling the condom off or forcing someone to have sex without it without their consent is rape. Forcing someone to have sex in front of their son's dead body after they repeatedly said no is rape, even if they eventually give in. It started with rape.
What happened to your latest video "George RR Martin Throws Shade at David and Dan"? It's suddenly gone.
i like that he views women as people. feels great to see someone validate them. it is kinda sad that the bar is really that low tho.
People to GRRM: u should be home writing😛
GRRM :😦
D&D to people : guess what ? we hv already ruined the last season🤫
George whenever there is a controversy involving Game of Thrones "Well you see in the *BØX* ..."
This was a solid answer without being too critical of the show, even though he clearly thought the scene would have benefitted from a closer adaptation to the books.