This is kinda like Taco Bell suing Taco John’s for trademarking “Taco Tuesday”. 😂😂 I would assume Gibson is doing this so they do not have to pay DiMarzio and can freely use those terms. Gibson would love to sell a set of Double Cream PAF replica pickups…just like the ones found in a ‘59 burst.
If I remember right, Wolfe at Wolfetone Pickups tried to fight DiMarzio on the double cream issue a few years ago. My guess is that DiMarzio could spend more on attorneys. After that, Wolfetone's visibility decreased dramatically in the market. Wolfe winds some amazing pickups and is a genuinely good guy. In this case, I side with Gibson.
That wasn't me, actually. But it was someone I'm familiar with. And although I forwarded on research regarding color trademarks, I wasn't directly involved in it. But I did help collect statements from players
how does this differ from something like “tiffany blue?” and since the dimarzio trademark is for “paf” as a word rather than “p.a.f.” does that hold any weight or does that still “cause confusion?”
Tiffany's blue color is not functional. Read about "aesthetic functionality doctrine" to learn more. That said, blue on ice-cream packaging WOULD be functional, and has been found to be so, in court. John Deere's green was also found functional.
The Mark Greasy and Gibson vs Dean judgement has just been reversed. Going to have to do it all over again. They probably should have said something about the V and Explorer shapes a little sooner. Can't let someone build your guitar for 73 years and then decide to complain.
I could give a schidt about the chrome covered pickups. Hate them. The cream or zebras are the ones to go with. Preferably, the zebras. I'm a Seymour Duncan guy, but I know that Dimarzio is just as good.
I love double cream pickups in my Les Paul's, but i don't care for Dimarzio's. I started using Bare Knuckle for that reason, plus they kick the shit out of Dimarzio, in my opinion.
@@blueslawyer just something with the tone for some reason when I use them. I'm not sure how to describe it either, kind of nasally? I love Satriani and Vai's tone though. I've even tried quite a few Dimarzio's over the years. They just don't fit me well though.
Getting so tired of Gibson going after everyone. If they made a quality, affordable product, they wouldn't have to go after all these companies to try and get money. The Gibson brand is losing strength, in the industry,, because they are not the best producers of guitars. There are so many brands out there that far exceed Gibson for far less money.
Gibson has their issues, but in this case, they are looking to lean into a separate pickup store. Selling double cream and PAF pickups with the branding they want could help them sell. I don't think anyone complains about Gibson pickups.
I think these Gibson Lawsuits are getting out of hand, and doing more damage to name and image. Too much focus is going into this kind of nonsense, then making quality insturments. What is next pickguard shape and material.
@@blueslawyer pick gaurds I am not fussy about them. For the material mostly standard single or 3 ply, I had an acrylic and wood on some of my collection. That a local luthier was making back in the day. Acrylic guitars I only got to to try the B.C Rich line, and they were horrible! I think if I got to try and Ampeg (Dan Armstrong) Lucite it would have been a diffrent story.
I own 1 Gibson and would not waste my money on purchasing another. There are many far more superior guitar manufactures out there that produce a much more superior product. Just getting tired of Gibson thinking they are the best thing since sliced bread, when in fact, their bread is getting old and moldy....JS!!!!
Back in the day, Mighty Mite also sold double cream humbuckers 👍
Oh Mighty Mite! They have the licensed Fender necks I wonder if they had a license for the double cream
The only thing for me is that everyone makes a V too and Gibson still won against Dean. That might mean nothing but it's why it's confusing.
This is kinda like Taco Bell suing Taco John’s for trademarking “Taco Tuesday”. 😂😂 I would assume Gibson is doing this so they do not have to pay DiMarzio and can freely use those terms. Gibson would love to sell a set of Double Cream PAF replica pickups…just like the ones found in a ‘59 burst.
Taco Tuesday is my favorite holiday
If I remember right, Wolfe at Wolfetone Pickups tried to fight DiMarzio on the double cream issue a few years ago. My guess is that DiMarzio could spend more on attorneys. After that, Wolfetone's visibility decreased dramatically in the market. Wolfe winds some amazing pickups and is a genuinely good guy. In this case, I side with Gibson.
That's correct! It was Wolfetone
That wasn't me, actually. But it was someone I'm familiar with. And although I forwarded on research regarding color trademarks, I wasn't directly involved in it. But I did help collect statements from players
@WolfetonePickups ah yes I see that referenced on some old forum posts. Keep up the good work!
@@WolfetonePickups BTW, your pickups are fantastic.
@@MonicaNikel Thanks Monica ( I think?) , I appreciate that. I'll be here when you're ready for more! Happy New Year!
I think Gibson did it because DiMarzio sent them a "stop it" letter regarding Gibsons double cream 57' classic in vintage white...
I appreciate you using Matt's brand of legal language
Hi, my PRS pups are cream/black.
I don't think anyone registered the zebra look, other than maybe calling it zebra
Imagine if Gibson took all that lawyer money and paid their luthiers properly instead.
They could probably pay everyone a little more and charge a little less
how does this differ from something like “tiffany blue?”
and since the dimarzio trademark is for “paf” as a word rather than “p.a.f.” does that hold any weight or does that still “cause confusion?”
Yes we actually talk about Tiffany Blue in another video. Plenty of other brands reference PAF-style that it almost seems like it has no value.
Tiffany's blue color is not functional. Read about "aesthetic functionality doctrine" to learn more. That said, blue on ice-cream packaging WOULD be functional, and has been found to be so, in court. John Deere's green was also found functional.
Maybe this is a silly question (and I don't want to give Gibson any ideas), but can Gibson claim a trademark on rectangle-shaped pickups?
The functional shape of a rectangle would probably not allow that lawsuit to go through, but I like where your heads at
The Mark Greasy and Gibson vs Dean judgement has just been reversed. Going to have to do it all over again. They probably should have said something about the V and Explorer shapes a little sooner. Can't let someone build your guitar for 73 years and then decide to complain.
@@jacksonmarshallkramer5087 check out our video from this morning on the subject
I could give a schidt about the chrome covered pickups. Hate them. The cream or zebras are the ones to go with. Preferably, the zebras. I'm a Seymour Duncan guy, but I know that Dimarzio is just as good.
@@jacksonmarshallkramer5087 tone is in the bobbin color
I love double cream pickups in my Les Paul's, but i don't care for Dimarzio's. I started using Bare Knuckle for that reason, plus they kick the shit out of Dimarzio, in my opinion.
What don't you like about DiMarzio pickups?
@@blueslawyer just something with the tone for some reason when I use them. I'm not sure how to describe it either, kind of nasally? I love Satriani and Vai's tone though. I've even tried quite a few Dimarzio's over the years. They just don't fit me well though.
@@bridge500t different tools for different players. It's good you found what works for you!
How did my guitars get on your wall?
Twins! What do you have?
I think its hilarious how many people have emotional reactions to either DiMarzio or Gibson in these comments.
Totally. Pickups are all the same anyway (ducking for cover).
I'm with Gibson on this one
Sounds about right... It would be cool to get some Burstbuckers in double cream
Getting so tired of Gibson going after everyone. If they made a quality, affordable product, they wouldn't have to go after all these companies to try and get money. The Gibson brand is losing strength, in the industry,, because they are not the best producers of guitars. There are so many brands out there that far exceed Gibson for far less money.
Gibson has their issues, but in this case, they are looking to lean into a separate pickup store. Selling double cream and PAF pickups with the branding they want could help them sell. I don't think anyone complains about Gibson pickups.
I think these Gibson Lawsuits are getting out of hand, and doing more damage to name and image. Too much focus is going into this kind of nonsense, then making quality insturments. What is next pickguard shape and material.
I'm generally anti-pickguard. What kind of alternative materials have you tried? I played a few acrylic guitars back in the day
@@blueslawyer pick gaurds I am not fussy about them. For the material mostly standard single or 3 ply, I had an acrylic and wood on some of my collection. That a local luthier was making back in the day. Acrylic guitars I only got to to try the B.C Rich line, and they were horrible! I think if I got to try and Ampeg (Dan Armstrong) Lucite it would have been a diffrent story.
I own 1 Gibson and would not waste my money on purchasing another. There are many far more superior guitar manufactures out there that produce a much more superior product. Just getting tired of Gibson thinking they are the best thing since sliced bread, when in fact, their bread is getting old and moldy....JS!!!!
@@adrianosselton4662 oh yeah I played a Dan Armstrong back in the day. That was a lot of fun.
@@jeffoefelein2812 different tools for everyone. Merry Christmas!
Good ole Gibson, the nicest company from hell....
I currently have 3 DiMarzio Anniversary PAF pickups in my cart. Don't tell Gibson
That is why I've never bought a DiMarzio
Why's that?
@@blueslawyerDimarzio I'd say, by far, the best overall pickup manufacturer
Gibson might own a patent on the humbucker, but they don't own the trademark for 'humbucker'.
Humbucker and Single Coil are pretty common... We should look into P-90.
I would not buy a Gibson product even if they were the only guitar company in the world. They are pathetic cry babies.
That's a pretty aggressive stance but I respect your commitment.
Gibson is desperate it needs to go bankrupt they have nothing better to do than sue anyone remotely close in the industry
Let the market decide
I hope Gibson loses. Not because i like Dimarzio, because I hate Gibson.
Win or lose, it doesn't really matter. DiMarzio will make pickups and Gibson will make guitars and also pickups.
Gibson better lose.
I don't think it hurts anyone if Gibson can sell double cream Burstbuckers or 490s.