What is the right way to earn a living? | J. Krishnamurti
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2015
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Saanen 1980 - Question #1 from Question & Answer Meeting #2
'I work as a teacher and I am in constant conflict with the system of the school and the pattern of society. Must I give up all work? What is the right way to earn a living? Is there a way of living that does not perpetuate conflict?'
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've been asking myself this question .. I was working as an computer engineer .. found myself being a part of a huge industrial system .. my work of no human value .. my spirit dead .. it's all about money .. I was selling my life to job, money, going after sensual pleasure during free time .. now I grow trees, take care of a personal garden .. being close to the sun, the wind, the earth .. try to take care of my needs not using much money .. I feel connected to real life .. and still contemplating about right livelihood ..
beautiful, I am on the same path brother, fellow computer engineer here doing useless software everyday :(
@@CertifiedGenius007 someone did some 'useless' software someday that's why we are now able to watch these videos/ stories/ teachings today from different parts of the world after this many years of recording. is it seems still completely useless now ??
I feel like it is not the profession that makes one dead rather when we are engaged with work that we are naturally not interested in ,put lot of effort even though our heart and mind denies it. Perhaps there are people who are naturally interested in technical field , loves to code and do their work maybe it is for them but it is not for someone who wants to be a farmer , a dancer , cook , singer etc . I am on the same boat , my heart denies the work I do but I am pulling myself till I become financially independent, maybe it is an illusion but I don’t have gut to quit and take a chance.
@@NepalSpeaks I am a Nepali living in the US. That is good plan you have. Be financially independent and do something you like even it pays no money. I have similar plan as myself .
@@anantapoudel959 great. Come to Nepal. We need so many conscious people around.
I see numerous comments about people quitting their corporate jobs in pursuit of spirituality. The key here is to remember job is just a function, Krishnamurti’s teaching is on a deeper level and talks more about the ego’s attachment to things and its useless commentary. It is important to not let the ego slip through the back and convince yourself that you must quit your job and do something else to be more “spiritual.” If it is out of true awareness, then it can be powerful and help you do something more meaningful. If it is out of ego, even after you quit the job you may notice a new pattern of useless thinking and commentary about the new job or life you are leading. My recommendation is to accept whatever happens as it is with no conflict. When needed, take the appropriate actions by dealing with only facts (not judgements or attachments) as mentioned in this video. The teaching is simple at its core until you overthink about it. Wish you all peace :)
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I disagree. He says that it is absurd to live in this type of relationship.
You say job is only a function; this doesn t mean anything in my opinion; you seem to escape from reality as the ostrich with its head in the sand.
Right action should always be. Not outside a so called function as a job.
Friendly speaking.
@@ph7467 both are true at a level
Whenever he says, “I wonder if you are following all this”, so lovingly and warmly, my heart always melts...~
😄😄 me too.
he so in love with wat he saying, he just want to make sure they all get it ..very deep sweet emotion this man had for all.👌👍💕
Same friend ❤️
don't get in trap of emotions stay strong and reasonable.
mine tooo . I wish we had him now :( all the good teachers and gurus were only in the 90"s
"The art of living means that live a life without any conflict":J.K sir.
It's never about the right answer, it's always about reaching the right question
Every time I listen to him, I come to think of the role of the family and society as a big contributor to all the mess in our lives. Pushing and evaluating own children to mechanical education system, pushing them to marriages without thinking on much about the relationship. This man's thinking should be thought from childhood
Even though its an improper phrase, we all have a choice to "break" that chain right?
Anybody don’t know outside world try to make them do things what they want lot of psychological tricks and flicks ,conditioning another what you can say . Those who don’t aware deeply they are agent of society and it’s ways .
Completely agree to this
Yes
"Work is love made visible.
And if you cannot work with love but only with distaste, it is better that you should leave your work and sit at the gate of the temple and take alms of those who work with joy.
For if you bake bread with indifference, you bake a bitter bread that feeds but half man's hunger." ~ Khalil Gibran.
But no such society exist now...
India was such society once upon a time where alms was not inferior. It is very hard for lot of people to taking alms without getting feeling of offended and inferior. Now Indian Hindu culture has hugely influenced by colonial Christianity and has lost its real meaning in many traditions and culture.
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I definitely learned a lot from him. One thing I have learnt from him is that exploring our problems, and that is a lot. Asking questions, getting to the root of the problem...I just need to apply! Thank you Krishnamurti! Thank you for your efforts to help humanity to be free!!
One has to be prepared with tremendous energy, and utmost seriousness, to receive the right intelligence- that is not mine or yours... its the essence of this teaching ! I bow again and again to this wisdom !
The more serious you are. The more the dead. Here Jiddu says serious means be authentic in your search for the what is.
@@sg9959 and i casually point out, making a comment is a serious act!
@@jswootheblackscreen 😂😂😂
Life is relationship. Can we let go of attachment? The moment I have created the opposite, conflict comes into being. This is what our education has educated the brain to do. (Analyse). By observing (without analysing) and remain with "what is", the struggle between the opposites is eliminated. This is the route to living without conflict.
the situations we live in is a projection of what we are inside. if you know this. You will not think that your work generates conflict because the conflict is actually already within you. You are the conflict your entire self is conflict and that situation appeared in your life just for you to realize that internal conflict that already existed. If there is conflict within you, you will attract situations that show you that conflict so that you learn something from yourself. The same happens with fear, anger, sadness, emptiness. so on and so on….that is why is important to observe ourself during the day every minute every second .
Just observe ❤️
It's okay dear one's. I'm no body but would like to improve my cells wholly only. If I still exist now, can it too ask any you the wonders aka, perfection is the mirror of chaos any way? Thanks guys.
Right livelihood can only come about by Right living.
Right living means right relationship and right action.
After i had seen and abandoned my conditioning i thought about this and because i am passionate about mental health i thought i would stay in my job as a mental health worker because i feel i am doing something worthwhile and i have a passion for it.
I came down to Himalaya
s to avoid a busy city like Mumbai for sometime (like quarantine!? )but I still face
some sort of "conflicts" here too!Then I realised that no one can avoid conflict totally especially in these present times& situation! My sincere Pranams to JK, the genius 🌺🙏🌺
You should come back soon then😅
One avoids conflict, when one has no conflict in oneself, with oneself, no self. I am a teacher, I teach languages. I have taught at university and now fugitives, because I get more money. But I have the same pleasure to do it with students or people, who have never been at school in their home country. This has evolved gradually because I have learned all the time too. So now, there are always some petty conflicts within my groups at the beginning, but they, disappear very fast. I may say, we learn together without conflict and I love my job. But it was a long way for me and J. K. has taught me so much. Namaste
this is the question. I looked for years, wasted so much time, now it is well spent, had to be done. Now I can get on with the housework and my life. Thank you.
It took you all of those years.. to go thru all of those experiences.. to understand this..
it is destined for you to witness this & understand the intelligence required to answer that question in which you held on for so long.. there is no waste here.. only an ebb & flow.. nature's timeless way of growing
Claire, please explain to me
I dont understand
I wish I had the opportunity to meet this wonderful man. He was before my time. I am learning so much from him. May God bless his soul and May he Rest In Peace. Thank you for spending so much of your life to help humanity see within themselves through your talks etc. 🥰😘❤️🙏
same
Why
He is no more next birth because he has liberated from this world
@@bhupendratomar4575 how you know ,, If you with sureity then you learn nothing from this man ,, please use your word carefully , he always emphasize to not speak behind any authority..
Great intelligence of oneself comes from asking oneself the real questions , that's how one does no become a social robot doing things they complain about yet still participate in daily
i realised ,since i listen him for so long ... that only when i get to that state of no mind ...there is a clarity . i never had it again . but only when thru a meditative state , not imposed or forced ,but spontaneous i got huge realisations . being with myself ...based on my own necesity inwardly ...miracles can happend. in this world of purely chaos ...i see it rather impossible lately . the outward always barging in with force and violence . one has to be a miracle to reach a higher state of no mind. and lucky :))
dear camelia, if i may, just follow your breath, no matter where you are, what you are doing, keep your attention on your breath. breath is the vehilcle of consciousness. breath is that brings us into this body and then takes us out of it. breath is the most direct way of everything.
i say this because as many books as i read in order to "intellectually" understand chakras and stuff, the days i kept my attention on breath, this state of no mind was more frequent and epiphanies came randomly all the time, like the huge realizations you're talking about.
if you want, you could do a vipassana retreat to get started on it. that's how it started for me. breath took me past attention to awareness.
Watching this sitting on the floor mat I bought work. I can still be physically harmonious while working to make a living. It’s how you act and live whether at work or anywhere else.
He is living One in right place of our Heart, but only few can see and undrstand him. "THE J"
Anyone that can LISTEN can understand J.K
His words are always so touching, btw I can feel the desperation from the listeners, it's hard to comprehend and follow up the wise man's talk, they need more time just to process the tons of information.
My beloved teacher.
So profound Wisdom. And, great intellect! May, the whole of humanity appreciate his legacy! Thank you!
The whole human society is working to abandon his idea,, at the time of his death he claims no one is benefitted from his life time journey and speaking..
❤️love this man❤️he’s Amazing so much unbelievable wisdom, after treading the spiritual path for years and joining so many organisations each time thinking this is the one,I came across his name in a book I was Reading (I Am That) he was mentioned, I looked him up,and in a very short time I knew that my search was over ❤️
Same😀🙏🏼
@@mariagurer2362 same
Right action,and right relationship.we must find.
Quite true
Best Teacher ...😊..Thank you soo much for sharing these videos..🌱🌺
What a great talk viewed on today Sunday like seeing a beautiful flower
ks narayanarao qq
You are blessed to see it
40:33 where Krishnamurti asks if working out of memory is action or not.
41:15 where JK says tha action can only be when there is complete freedom from the past and the present.
41:54 where JK says that understanding right action and right relationship brings about intelligence. And that intelligence will dictate what you do to earn your livelihood. And without that intelligence , our livelihood will be dictated by circumstances like status, money and all that.
Thanks for pointing
Goodness! He keeps on cutting and cutting and goes on and on... Glad that modern teachers like Eckhart Tolle have simplified these teachings and made them accessible!
Thank you for making this knowledge available!
He literally opened my eyes. I would have lived in his lifetime, in that case I would have joined him and serve him entire life to gain his understanding
Joker
The moment there is a sudden realisation that the thinker is the thought, the experiencer is the experience and the observer is the observed which it definetely is , there is the begining of MEDITATION. This is the begining of the ending of all strife and in that state Do What You Will there can only be peace and Love.
Where you are... love is not. Where love is... you are not. Krishnamurti's teaching's will grow
Can you please explain observer is the observed.
@@aseemap8308 if all these times we became observer the world outside us, in meditation we learn to observe that very observer. If the history of our life wrote in a book, try constantly to be reader of that book.
Beautifully put , but saying that it is a beginning implies that , there is an end of some sort to it . Other than that , what you wrote is just magnificient
Only few people will understand this , ....
This man is incredible a genius the 1 thing I learnt from the speaker it to get to the root coures of the subject
uncle is something else... I appreciate him a lot. Thank you
Thank you so much for your affection and lovely expression 🙏❤️
Thank You Jiddu..this is priceless
We saw conflicts, wars as outside of us while K is saying every phenomenon is the ripple effects of our psyche, hence the Indivisibility message of his. Commoners saw the divided individuality while sages saw the illusion of it. Live his exemplary life of simplicity, laser attention, and explosive energy and compassion! Thanks K and friends.
I randomly came across this beautiful soul. I listen to him while I am at work. His wisdom resonates with me. So grateful for gis teachings.
"Do you follow me? Does it interest you? Are you with me? Should i continue.. "
No response.. the look in his eyes..
Kaspars Straut i would answer everything c:
Man . This was helpfull as questioning
You understand all this ? xd 15:15
Intially People come with their huge ego, wanting to convince themselves as intellectual and after some time when they realise how tough it is to question everything impartially for the right answers or dissolution of questions..They get bored and give up..The truth is None of them came to Krishnamurti as seeker, all came to get a stamp of "intellectual" from society.
@@manojsrivastava3626 this!
Following itself implies someone is blind psychologically. A conditioned mind mechanically tends to follow unconsciously hence can not be free from freedom.
Attachment is also detachment
Relationship is the opposite of detachment
- in this sense. Wow. Thanks!
thank you for uploading his videos here 🙏❤️
What a great teacher. Broke it down real easy. Our history is our thought process. Insanity. Get over yourself the bar is set real low.
Wonderful 😊! Everyone must/shd listen to this particular one even today. 🙏
thanks for all the
true
Kind
and
necessary
words of pure intelligence in this video
The Present
Fantastic discourse by a genius that's JK garu🙏💐🌺🙏🌺💕
The questions that are answered have their own relevance to even present time!!! JK is a visionary!!!
39:05 il a parlé français sans faire attention lol, très grande personne respect pour ses enseignements
Very good explanation as one must find out "who" they are before understanding "how" they are to interact with the world including work, relationships, actions, etc...
Wonderful teaching
what agrt teaching! all teachers in schools in india need to be trained thisway!!
enlightened speech
The best part is he speech makes you think and ponder about yourself. There always not a sure answer to everything.
Thank you so much for sharing his teaching with us ❤. Very deep “lesson”, from the profound truth.
This is very helpful to me. Thank you!
Hats off sir! 🌺🙏💕
I love this man
Doubt and inquiry is healthy! I believe truth is to be discovered when we doubt and investigate. What I love about his discourse is how neutral he is and he breaks down the process of the way we think and feel step by step in a very clear, clinical way. I also like how he impart his insights through dialogue with scholars and his audience.
now what
You cannot know the truth, there can only be in its presence. When there’s no you to know.
Grateful 🥰🙏😊
It is not merely answer to question, but a long prayer which, by the nature of prayer, makes some of us tearyeyed.
It's not a prayer. It's a way of looking at the world. But I know what you mean!
@@Ladybellefiske Thanks. Can u say difference betn readymade answers available allaround for the question and the answer we r getting here from this video?
thank you for this video
this is amazing
the most profound message ever, beyond human understanding. we must do nothing at all to right human folly, a constant observation of what takes us over,howver and he we value harmful thoughts and imaginary ideas which keep us as time intellect slaves to enquire and explore this fact, and see how we have allowed unconscious thinking to imprison our true real nature which can only come from a higher source, than human conflict, see this and work sincerely to attract this higher intelligence, see that the old nature the ego self, must never be the enquirer.
thank you
I'm grateful
Thank you Sir
Sir JK straight and sharp as a razor blade, puts out facts that are 100% crystal clear. He is speaking from a great deep understanding.A type of understanding which demands one's full attention 100%. He is as clear as the blue sky.no clouds. When he had such profound wisdom, solutions, actual practical solutions that work 100% and also, the only true solution, if many many people could have understood him at this time, it would surely, turn around things in a very big way.....
I am so interested in his talk shows....How his clarity opens up the truth in the most profound deepest way that is clearer than daylight.....o how, i admire such beings...... Nothing has ever worked for anyone till now other than eternal truth.......And fabulous beings like sirJK carried on the torch.......
It brings tears to my eyes that , somebody,did this level of work, for the masses ......
He didn't need the talks !!!
People needed him ,in a big big way!!
thank you for your words i hear in my mind
Awesome.
Just thank you!!!
Thank you 🙏🏻🌸
The comments are interesting on all the JK videos. Most people seem to misunderstand his message.
It's not about getting the right answers.
It's about asking yourself all the right questions.
We r together👍
Great revelation
Working with people we meet everyday and help them understand the nature of the soul.
thank you
Interesting, the opposite of attachment is not detachment. The understanding of attachment will wither away the very attachment you have, to someone or an idea or concept. Understanding something (attachment/lonliness/envy/anger/conflict or etc) brings about the intelligence and that intelligence will tell you what the right living is, or right relationship is. We don't have to ask this to another person or a guru. The answer to those questions should come from within, from understanding. JK puts it nicely :)
Y yes he did indeed inspiringly on my end, dear one. Now I must say you've invested some learning specialty just by listening to this video, if you don't mind. What is the opposite of attachment? Until your response now known here, can I suggest to my self that it's imprisonment!!! Thank you again. A Sincere reader.
I can just see Krishnamurti cursing under his breath at the thought of having to repeat the same issues day in day out. A friend of mine went to his school in Devon and mentioned how come dinner time, Krishnamurti would eat no more than two small spoonfuls of peas and then sit still with his hands tucked under his rear end until dinner was over.
Great mind he had
Do the right thing ...
On this lonely planet, I miss this human being so much.
Thank you 💞🌕🌳🙏
"But there is no opposite. There is only what I have. Which is attachment. ... The moment I have created the opposite, conflict comes into being." (27:45)
Thanks Genius
Learning about yourself as well.Teacher must understand oneself.Don't deliver lecture only rather understand yourself first
16:00 living is action and living is relationship
Good man 🔍
Action can only be when there is complete freedom from the past and the future.
Earning living rightly and without any inner conflict or struggle - how? Living rightly is about right action, then what it it? Life is action, life is also relationship, so need to find both. Right relationship. Enquire into great dependence on each other, psychologically. Why we are so dependent? Is it bcoz we re so lonely? Dependence gives u security and protection. In love, being possessed and to possess, so conflict. We create image about each other and cling to that. The moment you tied to anyone, u r dependent and then corruption begins. Can we live together without being tied, or dependent psychologically on each other? Consequenes of attachment, relaise and just let it go. Can attachment ends, do not pursue detachment. That is different. Just let go attachment, be on that front, don’t try to go to opposite. eg. His son is dead, he is attached to son, he is in tears, and then try to go away to other activities for filing the void. But It is not. If he be with that completely, understand what was the attachment and dependency, then he can go into it fully and then can go beyond it. Right relationship can exist only if there is no attachment, no dependency, no image about each other, then real communion with each other. And right action is right under all circumstances. Action based on ideals, values, experiences or whatever I want to do. All that is past or attractive future, means past/future is dictation your present actions. But is that action? Question that. Right action is when there is complete freedom from past and future. Action without motives, not directed. Right action and right relationship, understanding of it will bring right intelligence, not intellect, but profound intelligence, And that intelligence will guide what is right way to earn livelihood. It demands a great deal of self inquiry. Dining every form of experience in that enquiry. Then there is way, without conflict, with intelligence, which shows right way to earn livelihood.
Best teacher yet, I feel like hugging him, does anyone has his book , In the problem is the solution and also a book name ,don't make a problem of anything. I really need this books
Please let me know the name of the book when you do. Thank you
@@jasmine-oliviarose1908 At the Feet of the Master (1910); The First and Last Freedom (1954); Commentaries on Living (1956-1960); Freedom from the Known (1969); Krishnamurti's Notebook (1976); Krishnamurti's Journal (1982); Krishnamurti to Himself (1987)
Dependence gives a sense of security a protection against this vast world of terror.
We create image about each other and cling to that image.
The moment you tied to an idea, thought or concept corruption has begun.
Can we observe without any motive consequences of attachment.
Observe
Accept
Live in the present moment
your mind creates an identity that solely depends on other. They give you a name , they give a profession , they give you *The existence* causing you to be dependent on to them. And your world and imagination takes shapes according to your perception. Shed the *I* and dilute yourself from the duality thus there is no possibility of conflict and sail through the grand Ocean without deviating from the real purpose of life. Nothing to loose, nothing too gain.we came empty handed we go empty handed. Then why not walk freely without the feel of attachment. A man with less *POSSESSION* has the most possibility of being Liberated.
love this dude
❤ U forever and every birth The Master
i got it. i thank you Sir
perfect
Schools and politicians world-wide; make J. Krishnamurti the most important lessons or subject at your schools today please. Of course with teachers who have insight in his teachings.
The only right profession is that of farmer. A farmer deals with life processes all the time & seeks to intensify it .all other professions arise out of corruption of humanity.
The Cattle and farmland industry are some of the most corrupted industries of all time. tf you mean?
dharma shektar
People need clothes, places to live, food and other things need to be transported, roads have to be made to transport the food, equipment to make this needs an industry.
Farmers need equipment,
Many industries are necesary so society can function.
Farming is action. Action in a right way. A righteous living. Farming activity only withstood the onslaught of Covid - 19.
Remember the wisdom of Krishnamurti, true intelligence does not accept nor reject anything, just observes to see beyond. In the moment you state a critic such as "this is good, that is bad" you just fall prey of thought, which actually is the source of human corruption. Don't let your mind degrade in a mere ideological stance!
We will do something about it.
16:50 understanding Action and Relationship
LOVE
مقطع جميل جدٱ .. أرجوك سيدي إفعلها ..
When he said : please sir do it