World isnt mechanical that is a concept and the world isnt a concept . As for Humans they are making themselves mechanical and the man cannot even see himself if he lives in concept.
Only a person who is good at heart, sufficiently intelligent, sensitive and free from the adversities of the outside world can possibly benefit from such profound teachings.
His effort is priceless. He wants the audience to understand directly but its quite difficult to understand what he is trying to say, very easy to grasp intellectually but it just becomes a part of knowledge in our brain.
When the mind is conditioned for making images about the person the observer fails to observe because previous thoughts are flashing and never try to look as is. Therefore, its very dangerous to form images with respect to human beings. One should never ever get influenced by other's praise or condemnation and should remain free from image making process. Very beautifully explained by J Krishnamurti sir why it's important to remain absolutely free from image creation. However, one should remember images of science, technology so as to take advantage of collective accumulated depository of knowledge and have an access to those when required and keep adding new creation which should evolve the process of recording, registering in the mind.. Worth listening to this video, time and again.
" the registration..is the image making.." How wonderful to be still after such a long time, experience 'K' like new!..timeless. Thanks for this post! :-)
Basically, image means the past. Modified continuity of the past prevent seeing what Is. This leads to all the rest, like loving ideas instead of the thing. An illusion loving mind that creates fear and violence.
So true! Amazing insights like a mirror held to our mind and feels like open eyed meditation with him moving our perception deeper and deeper! However, realistically how many people will think or live this deeply and then for collective consciousness to reach that level so that we can create and maintain a more pleasant reality around us is almost too far fetched, hence the depression/suffering that how amazing and immense possibilities are and yet we live like primitive animals ruled by senses, thoughts and emotions.
He seems caught off guard by his own observation. Then he collects his composure. The thing that lately stands out the most to me and is most interesting is this expressiveness of his. It seems very transparent to me, very honest.
I am conditioned. My response is conditioned for a situation. I cannot be free of conditioning through effort. My conditioning ends only through perception. Perception won't come through effort. We thus are not in control.
Thats not true , you have an automated response to evrything , when you see the automated response comming trough awernes , you can stop it , and act acording to your will. Therfore , if you are angry at a friend for example , you can see the enrgy build up , and decide for yourself , if you want to shout on him or not. Its your decision how you direct that energy. Unless you dont see it, than you go by your automated response.
You are free you have always been free surrender to what IS because there is nothing to be free from that singular Is which is in control the formless constant that manifests all reality and unmanifested Is because I am beyond am-ness. I am zero for that the self having free will and that god energy that controls it will break in the end and there is only beyond energy beyond movement and time. Beyond words beyond conditioning. Beyond nature and reality beyond the word of god. Beyond the Me. Just eternal silent IS.
Speechlessly stunning! depth lies in almost all statements! which is uttered by this simple person with casual smiles! "is the observer the observed" "is talking communication between two images?" "is it possible to be free from registration?"
thats almost the top of the top talks not many will understand... and not much money can be made like other gurus do.... clean and straight to the point... and who doesnt get it he is simply not ready yet... come back next lifetime...
If you look at people through the lens of ideas, concepts,prejudices you create a image of them. The image that you have of yourself is false and need narcissistic supply to maintain. Thanks J.k.
.... quando ELE perguntou as horas p/alguém na plateia,,,vc vê toda delicada forma doce e gentil de se aproximar de outro humano.... "..ohh my Lord"..um gentlenan...
@17:50 When there is a division between the observer and the observed example; 1. Say the observer observes in the mirror a cut on his nose and tries to fix it by placing a bandaid over it on the mirror. Will he succeed? Of course not because the observer is trying to fix the observed nose image in the mirror by placing bandaid on the mirror and not on it’s own real nose.That is what happens when the observer thinks that it is separate from the observed. 2. Now observe what is being observed in the mirror of the universe. Observe anyone; your wife, friend or your boss. Remember the observed is being projected by the observer in the mirror of the universe and there is no separate entity in reality the way the observer is perceiving. Like the previous example the observer cannot work on and change the observed images that it is projecting in the universe. All it can do is stop seeing it that way. See that it is already OK as it is. Then there is no problem. So what happens to all the projected images of the others? They are gone, because they are not different from the observer. There is nobody else there. One hand clapping all the times.
Really Krishmurti ji our images always changes in society perspective some times they cherish another time they defame, that's is worst thing that love, friendship is worst hollow, but as compare to that the love or friendship of our parents, our soul and the Almighty power is everything. Because this society can cherish you if you do that make themselves happy or at another abruptly can rebuke or defame you if they don't like, that's what buddha has taught love every one he didn't hates the haters or his followers both was had beings treated by him same manner same ,and this is applicable to kanir nanak, meera etc , but now in 21thcentury their follower can't do so. And that paradox.
The problem with image making is that it can never resemble the real person. And there is always a conflict between the image and the person. We compare the two everytime We meet. We don't see the person as they are, we see them in comparison to the image we have in our mind.
The essence here is that register is useful for mechanical things we do in life, but when we want to be truly human, we need not to impose on reality our beliefs, our registered experiences. Meeting "as if it is the first time", not adding any "geometries of thought" is the essence of Edmund Husserl's Phaenomenology (see World-of-Life concept) and Meneghetti's ontological nexus. To achieve that the symbolic habits must fall, a serious practice is needed. It is not easy, but not impossible.
in the begining there was oneness. The return to it in the realisation of the beautiful unbounded nothingness. a) Can you hear that ? b) What ? a) That b) I cannot hear nothing, only the birds, animals, the traffic in the distance a) Exactly ! Don’t you just love listening to nothingness it’s so overwhelming a) See you see that ? b) What ? a) That b) I cannot see nothing, only the trees, the earth, the sky, the cars in the distance a) Exactly ! Don’t you just love seeing nothingness it’s so overwhelming
12:47 it always makes me laugh so hard seeing that he gets sometimes all excited because people don't get what he's talking about as it is in fact so simple, they are waiting for an answer from him, then he realizes pretty quickly that he felt into his own trap, which is getting excited about it and instantly calm down. Because he knows that for the unawaken mind, excitation would be a sign of anything but wisdom.
Very informative. Important is that even "end to make an image" can be an image. Even a positive image is an image. Wars are based not only on the negative images. Occupants often invade as "brothers" coming to make everyone free. Information about what the "brothers" have done not only a hundred years ago, but even 10 years ago can help to avoid cycle repetition. Refusing the facts, people create positive images of the invading devastators.
Actually thought did solve the probelm between me and my wife. "Stop controlling and putting me down. I dont do that to you. Let's treat each other faily as equals." It works. Perfectly exact and good hearted thought can solve problems. K himself is using thought to try to show us how to solve probklems through no thought. So the answer is Wrong perfect surgical thought that gets right to the heart of the problem and makes it irreflutable. Of course, it might take a very long time to get to that place.
Though can invent things and solve 3d problems and it will be helping solve. But JK talks about psychological problems. Here we know that the basic nature of thought is divisive. It first creates a storm and then offers us to give an umbrella as the solution. This round and round chase continues. Problems (invented by the thought) abound with solutions coming from the same level of thought.
The meaning is not not remembering, but not register it from the point of view of the center, of the ego, which count it as gratifying or diminishing thing. He really means don't create the accompanied story that comes with the fact, the story of gratifying or condemning the self, from the ego point of view. He said I'm stupid, so my center views it as an assault, and I register that in order to defend or attack back sometime. Same with fluttery, my center likes the idea, so I register in order to feel the pleasure of the image which I think (from the center) that is good, which strengthens the center (both do). Memory you will have anyway, just the story accompanied will not come from the center, you will refuse to believe that story, since you see it's dangers.
Highly admirable propositions.... It is probably in a bearable surrundimg... Unfortunately from times immemorial, the human or animals had lived, are living and there may be no time to give thought to theoretical approach to the immediate consequences.. Nevertheless, it is useful, at least in limited circumstances and shall work to be useful. Thanks and regards. 🙏
He said it...without it there is no minority. You asked how. The solution is inside of us, but we are all alive and so to provide a space for all to be creative in their own way is what is needed. Everyone is as valuable as any other.
So our perceptions about others have to be broken in order for us to understand them. When JK says, find out for yourself , I was thinking, is it possible to stop image building/perception building by showing Empathy?
Image making is not possible without reflection. But in order to reflect on something you have to be at a distance from it. So when you say "I am good", you have already created a separateness or a distance between 'you' and goodness. Likewise, any other quality or attribute.
Wow psychology in its purest .. he said the answer is in you... if you know how to listen. It is possible not to register but it will take WANT and HRAD WORK
"Don't ask ever How, but LOOK...at Your Image...See what it does" - priceless.
"Have a mind that is totally innocent. That can never be hurt & never be flattered."
The ego can be hurt, the mind is just a mechanism.
@@johnmc3862 ur birth is a mechanism.
World isnt mechanical that is a concept and the world isnt a concept . As for Humans they are making themselves mechanical and the man cannot even see himself if he lives in concept.
ego doesn't exist therefore it gets hurt when it find itself in unfavorable conditions
Only a person who is good at heart, sufficiently intelligent, sensitive and free from the adversities of the outside world can possibly benefit from such profound teachings.
His effort is priceless. He wants the audience to understand directly but its quite difficult to understand what he is trying to say, very easy to grasp intellectually but it just becomes a part of knowledge in our brain.
Freedom from the known - read this book by JK. It's a masterpiece.
I will. Thank you
I did, it's a treasure.
One of my favorite books.
Thanks for the book...I am eager to read it ☺️
First and last freedom too.
The ultimate inteligence
When the mind is conditioned for making images about the person the observer fails to observe because previous thoughts are flashing and never try to look as is. Therefore, its very dangerous to form images with respect to human beings. One should never ever get influenced by other's praise or condemnation and should remain free from image making process. Very beautifully explained by J Krishnamurti sir why it's important to remain absolutely free from image creation. However, one should remember images of science, technology so as to take advantage of collective accumulated depository of knowledge and have an access to those when required and keep adding new creation which should evolve the process of recording, registering in the mind.. Worth listening to this video, time and again.
JK, always so sharp and fresh.
He always blows our mind with such unique and sharp perception about happenings of life.🙏
When your mind do not register an image, then your mind transcends, and it becomes pure.
Richard Okenwa why you want to be pure? What is pure?
Imagery is naturally part of the mind as in dreaming.
best talk of him, now i completely understand the image thing
At 10:46 he mutters "Jesus" under his breath in reaction to someone blurting out a question. Love it :)
I thought I heard that too
Is he a Christian?
@@patrisagar6548 again you started image making.
Thought is the disorder in which I live. Agreed.
So extremely profound 🙏🏻
I don't know how to thank you for what you have said. So I bow down myself to express my gratitude..🙏🙏
This is brilliant and helpful. Thanks J Krishnamurti
Wow. That was immensely clear.
I see what's happening...
*I don't mind what happens...*
" the registration..is the image making.."
How wonderful to be still after such a long time, experience 'K' like new!..timeless.
Thanks for this post! :-)
Here is wisdom
Great person he is.
Lol, he does remimd me of Yoda
one kind of a man that I dont want to stop listening to
You're a blessing to me
There is pure gold.
Thank you for this video
nice
Thank you
Thank you for the insightful video 🌼
Thank you for posting the videos of JK.
Awesome 👍👏 Krishmurti ji.
Thank you for this!
Great teaching of JK
" Don't repeat what I have said, Find out for yourself "
Excelent video, thanks
An innocent mind like a small baby which neither get hurt nor flattered by whatever we say as it doesn't know registering and we say same to God!
I love Krisnamurti
Spontaneous purpose
people change through time so having the same image in your mind about a person is unreliable.
The true nature of who you are is immutable. Pure Awareness.
Basically, image means the past. Modified continuity of the past prevent seeing what Is. This leads to all the rest, like loving ideas instead of the thing. An illusion loving mind that creates fear and violence.
Great..thank you
So true and so misunderstood.
super...👌 ...only KM jee..put it succinctly.
Superb...excellent...mind blowing
Please post more videos on J Krishnamurti 🙏
Listen, experience, find out for yourself and forget what the speaker said.
So true! Amazing insights like a mirror held to our mind and feels like open eyed meditation with him moving our perception deeper and deeper! However, realistically how many people will think or live this deeply and then for collective consciousness to reach that level so that we can create and maintain a more pleasant reality around us is almost too far fetched, hence the depression/suffering that how amazing and immense possibilities are and yet we live like primitive animals ruled by senses, thoughts and emotions.
Best
Infinite Love ❤
7:26. He was seriously dedicated to his craft
He seems caught off guard by his own observation. Then he collects his composure. The thing that lately stands out the most to me and is most interesting is this expressiveness of his. It seems very transparent to me, very honest.
I am conditioned. My response is conditioned for a situation. I cannot be free of conditioning through effort. My conditioning ends only through perception. Perception won't come through effort. We thus are not in control.
Thats not true , you have an automated response to evrything , when you see the automated response comming trough awernes , you can stop it , and act acording to your will. Therfore , if you are angry at a friend for example , you can see the enrgy build up , and decide for yourself , if you want to shout on him or not. Its your decision how you direct that energy. Unless you dont see it, than you go by your automated response.
You are free you have always been free surrender to what IS because there is nothing to be free from that singular Is which is in control the formless constant that manifests all reality and unmanifested Is because I am beyond am-ness. I am zero for that the self having free will and that god energy that controls it will break in the end and there is only beyond energy beyond movement and time. Beyond words beyond conditioning. Beyond nature and reality beyond the word of god. Beyond the Me. Just eternal silent IS.
The whole world act through images, but the reality is beyond images. We vigilant..
Speechlessly stunning! depth lies in almost all statements! which is uttered by this simple person with casual smiles!
"is the observer the observed"
"is talking communication between two images?"
"is it possible to be free from registration?"
So true so well pointed it’s not because you say what you think that’s true….
sir u nailed it again...ooh again image is made😊
Being mechanical provides great certainty -- word up!
Respect 🙏🙏
The relationship is a the healer to find purpose
😲wow
🙏🙏
Thought hasn't created the problems, identifying with them has.
This man is lit
Freedom from attachment and image making.
Sensational talk but complicate to understand.
🙏❤️
💜
thats almost the top of the top talks not many will understand... and not much money can be made like other gurus do.... clean and straight to the point... and who doesnt get it he is simply not ready yet... come back next lifetime...
To solve this problem ,stop the images between all..very nice
10.48, Krishnamurti curses with Jesus cause a random person suddenly interrupts 😂
He is saying something very simple, but that simplicity itself is the impediment to realise to see it simply and we want the truth to be complicated.
10:47
Feuding Drums hahaha
theory of everything
Everyone is conditioned..this is mine..this is mine..but nothing is mine..but how drop this all🙏
God may we see the way out from illusion... bless this world full of long suffering hearts.
If you look at people through the lens of ideas, concepts,prejudices you create a image of them. The image that you have of yourself is false and need narcissistic supply to maintain. Thanks J.k.
.... quando ELE perguntou as horas p/alguém na plateia,,,vc vê toda delicada forma doce e gentil de se aproximar de outro humano....
"..ohh my Lord"..um gentlenan...
@17:50 When there is a division between the observer and the observed example;
1. Say the observer observes in the mirror a cut on his nose and tries to fix it by placing a bandaid over it on the mirror. Will he succeed? Of course not because the observer is trying to fix the observed nose image in the mirror by placing bandaid on the mirror and not on it’s own real nose.That is what happens when the observer thinks that it is separate from the observed.
2. Now observe what is being observed in the mirror of the universe. Observe anyone; your wife, friend or your boss. Remember the observed is being projected by the observer in the mirror of the universe and there is no separate entity in reality the way the observer is perceiving. Like the previous example the observer cannot work on and change the observed images that it is projecting in the universe. All it can do is stop seeing it that way. See that it is already OK as it is. Then there is no problem.
So what happens to all the projected images of the others? They are gone, because they are not different from the observer. There is nobody else there. One hand clapping all the times.
7:29 LOLLL
He almost said "for god's sake" lol
Really Krishmurti ji our images always changes in society perspective some times they cherish another time they defame, that's is worst thing that love, friendship is worst hollow, but as compare to that the love or friendship of our parents, our soul and the Almighty power is everything. Because this society can cherish you if you do that make themselves happy or at another abruptly can rebuke or defame you if they don't like, that's what buddha has taught love every one he didn't hates the haters or his followers both was had beings treated by him same manner same ,and this is applicable to kanir nanak, meera etc , but now in 21thcentury their follower can't do so. And that paradox.
Imagine wht would be beyond our imaginations,conditionings,,,
🤗
have to find ourselves
The problem with image making is that it can never resemble the real person. And there is always a conflict between the image and the person. We compare the two everytime We meet. We don't see the person as they are, we see them in comparison to the image we have in our mind.
The truth spelled out
image is me, me is image.
Non_conflictual refractive pursuit of_dual image through a leaf!
Life is perpetual conditioning? How to escape...
The essence here is that register is useful for mechanical things we do in life, but when we want to be truly human, we need not to impose on reality our beliefs, our registered experiences. Meeting "as if it is the first time", not adding any "geometries of thought" is the essence of Edmund Husserl's Phaenomenology (see World-of-Life concept) and Meneghetti's ontological nexus. To achieve that the symbolic habits must fall, a serious practice is needed. It is not easy, but not impossible.
If he was born 1000-1500 years ago, he would have been added in the list of gods wherever he was from.he is in a different dimension altogether.🙏
He is just a normal, INTELLIGENT human being. Nothing more, nothing less
@@luxaeterna3246 ,✅👍
What we see when we think is life it's the test
in the begining there was oneness. The return to it in the realisation of the beautiful unbounded nothingness.
a) Can you hear that ?
b) What ?
a) That
b) I cannot hear nothing, only the birds, animals, the traffic in the distance
a) Exactly ! Don’t you just love listening to nothingness it’s so overwhelming
a) See you see that ?
b) What ?
a) That
b) I cannot see nothing, only the trees, the earth, the sky, the cars in the distance
a) Exactly ! Don’t you just love seeing nothingness it’s so overwhelming
12:47 it always makes me laugh so hard seeing that he gets sometimes all excited because people don't get what he's talking about as it is in fact so simple, they are waiting for an answer from him, then he realizes pretty quickly that he felt into his own trap, which is getting excited about it and instantly calm down. Because he knows that for the unawaken mind, excitation would be a sign of anything but wisdom.
I rather see it as his (com)passion and sincerity.
JK ''s talks are great, but he never solved a problem as well.
Because there is no such thing as problem. It is the conflict of images that creates problem. You drop the image and the problem is dropped.
You miss the point he makes.
Very informative. Important is that even "end to make an image" can be an image. Even a positive image is an image. Wars are based not only on the negative images. Occupants often invade as "brothers" coming to make everyone free. Information about what the "brothers" have done not only a hundred years ago, but even 10 years ago can help to avoid cycle repetition. Refusing the facts, people create positive images of the invading devastators.
Actually thought did solve the probelm between me and my wife. "Stop controlling and putting me down. I dont do that to you. Let's treat each other faily as equals." It works. Perfectly exact and good hearted thought can solve problems. K himself is using thought to try to show us how to solve probklems through no thought. So the answer is Wrong perfect surgical thought that gets right to the heart of the problem and makes it irreflutable. Of course, it might take a very long time to get to that place.
Though can invent things and solve 3d problems and it will be helping solve. But JK talks about psychological problems. Here we know that the basic nature of thought is divisive. It first creates a storm and then offers us to give an umbrella as the solution. This round and round chase continues. Problems (invented by the thought) abound with solutions coming from the same level of thought.
Based on the non-registration of the images, I think we'll never arrive to create memories.
you have to create memories where you have to learn. he himself says
The meaning is not not remembering, but not register it from the point of view of the center, of the ego, which count it as gratifying or diminishing thing. He really means don't create the accompanied story that comes with the fact, the story of gratifying or condemning the self, from the ego point of view. He said I'm stupid, so my center views it as an assault, and I register that in order to defend or attack back sometime. Same with fluttery, my center likes the idea, so I register in order to feel the pleasure of the image which I think (from the center) that is good, which strengthens the center (both do). Memory you will have anyway, just the story accompanied will not come from the center, you will refuse to believe that story, since you see it's dangers.
The ego is mechanical the love IS equanimity (i.e doesn't register nor creates duality.)
Highly admirable propositions.... It is probably in a bearable surrundimg... Unfortunately from times immemorial, the human or animals had lived, are living and there may be no time to give thought to theoretical approach to the immediate consequences..
Nevertheless, it is useful, at least in limited circumstances and shall work to be useful.
Thanks and regards. 🙏
How can we reconcile Hierarchy without imagery and registration?
He said it...without it there is no minority. You asked how. The solution is inside of us, but we are all alive and so to provide a space for all to be creative in their own way is what is needed. Everyone is as valuable as any other.
So our perceptions about others have to be broken in order for us to understand them. When JK says, find out for yourself , I was thinking, is it possible to stop image building/perception building by showing Empathy?
Image making is not possible without reflection. But in order to reflect on something you have to be at a distance from it. So when you say "I am good", you have already created a separateness or a distance between 'you' and goodness. Likewise, any other quality or attribute.
how can we know who is dangerous if we are not registering thoughts in our minds
if we don't register people will harm again again ..
we will to the dangerous man again and again
Wow psychology in its purest .. he said the answer is in you... if you know how to listen. It is possible not to register but it will take WANT and HRAD WORK
7:49