Steven Universe: Future is a Writing Failure
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- Опубликовано: 20 июн 2024
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I had some hope after the movie was surprisingly enjoyable (albeit flawed), but...what the hell just happened?
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Thank you all for 1000 dislikes ;D
Just gonna add on to that disclaimer at the beginning, don't think I'm discouraging you from pressing the dislike button because that's nonsense. Just try to at least be respectful when you disagree and leave a dislike instead of bombing it with multiple accounts because that's not very cool. Also, I am open to criticism in the comments, and I will try my best to view every counter made and/or respond to it if I can counter it.
Edit: Also this might be a mistake but I've heard that Steven wasn't talking to Amethyst about Spinel but instead is talking about Jasper. I'm not sure on either but both answers are flawed because of what I already mentioned for Spinel, but for Jasper it's even worse as she was never actually hurt by the Diamonds and the first person to comfort her in the ending for Season 5 is AMETHYST. Yet Amethyst acts like she means nothing and is beyond redemption given that context. So I'm more inclined to believe the Spinel option as it would make more narrative sense (not a whole lot but still), but this show's writing is straight-up confusing at times so who knows.
Cartoonshi シ the thing that bothers me about Steven universe the future is that the gems were ready to literally attack Steven with fire just because he wouldn’t play with them
He was clearly talking about Jasper, and the Diamond from which she was "hurt" was Pink, since, well, she thought she was dead for thousands of years and Jasper was one the most loyal of her soldiers and hated the rebels with passion for what they did.
Inazuma Sensei Yeah I realise that now. But it still didn’t make sense to me why Amethyst referred to her with disdain despite the ending for Season 5, so I just assumed that Spinel was being referred to.
Cartoonshi シ Dont mind these morons dude. They think SU is the greatest thing since Betty White and that there’s absolutely nothing wrong with the show. The show is terrible, it’s been terrible for quite some time now. The SU fandom are just too sensitive to accept it.
There’s not enough Steven Universe criticism videos on RUclips. I’m so glad you actually made one and I just subbed.
the more I watch Steven Universe Future, the more I wish the finale of Steven Universe hadn't gotten so messed up. I mean... there were hints that things weren't going so great leading up to it... Garnet's characterization is a good example of this, but I also felt like everyone's characterization was getting a little weird. it was as if, once a character stopped having problems, they stopped having any interiority. once a character was fine, they'd fall back on their archetypes now that their complex backstory was all built up and a given. it makes contentment feel like purgatory, because the only thing that the show is interested in is a character's trauma.
and like... a lot of early to mid Steven Universe was really good at handling the trauma that the characters were experiencing, don't get me wrong. but it can't be overstated how weird of a problem this is for a show like Steven Universe to have. when the show was first coming out, Steven Universe was very much a slice of life story. it was a monster-of-the-week episodic slice of life. that was the draw of the show for the people who watched it... it had to be, that's all there was. and I've always said that this was probably the source of the divide between fans who like the townie episodes, and people who call those episodes filler. for some, the townie stuff was why they came to Steven Universe in the first place, and to others, the big main plot that had started to take shape was more interesting. in this specific area, I feel like judgements about the show's "quality" are really pretty subjective.
that said, I think that the balance of these episodes has been handled more and less gracefully in different areas of the narrative. I liked it when Steven Universe could punctuate the quiet Beach City vibe with bits of action and drama relating to the gems and homeworld, without the situation becoming so fraught that any failure to focus on the gems and homeworld felt like negligence. that said, when the shows main overarching plot started to overtake the show's previously episodic nature, I really wish the writing had just leaned into it.
I guess what I'm trying to say here is like... one of the strengths of the townie episodes is that the characters can be shown handling mundane circumstances in unique ways that show off who they are as people. not everything has to be monumental. the appeal of slice of life stories is that you get a sense of what the character's day to day life actually is like, and that's enough. it's not driven by universe shattering plot twists, or deep psychological damage... it's driven by the desire to explore a wonderful setting through a beloved perspective. this is what I wish that the show had kept. the flaw of the townie episodes is that they clash in tone with the big picture stuff as things get more serious, and eventually the leisurely pace has to give way to something more urgent as the situation requires it. but pace has been the issue this whole time really.
when Change Your Mind hit, it pretty much ruined everything, and I don't think that's controversial to say. I personally think that this is a combination of doing too much too fast, and also not treating the main villains with the amount of severity that they had earned via reputation by this point. I think that episode should've, at most, won Blue Diamond over to their side, since she seemed to be the most sympathetic of the three. that would've been a fine season finale to lead into a whole new season wherein Steven and Blue Diamond head a resistance against homeworld and it's current system. and the only reason why Steven and Blue would be the de facto leaders would be so they could sway the allegiances of gems who were under homeworld's control, and thus used to being commanded by the diamonds. it isn't how things should be, but progress on that front can come later. several episodes could be devoted to things like Blue Diamond having trouble adjusting to the decisions she's made... struggling to be a better leader, or struggling with the idea that she is not obligated to be a leader at all. or maybe gems who serve Blue Diamond genuinely aren't sure where their allegiances are supposed to lie in a situation like this. being loyal to Blue and being loyal to homeworld are no longer the same thing... each gem has to make a genuine decision, and for some, this may be the first time that their purpose has ever been so unclear.
this all could've been really interesting, and if the show played it's cards right, it could've given a lot more purpose to individual characters who had been kind of left hanging since their arcs concluded (Peridot, Lapis, Lars and the Off Colors, "the Famethyst" etc.) we have a lot of little disparate groups of allies in various places going into Change Your Mind, which could've been used to great effect if they all had the chance to unite under a common cause. but anyway. this was the long way around to saying that the problem with Steven Universe Future is that so much potential was lost by cutting off the efficacy of the diamonds so early, that the show literally can't recover. all the things I wish I could ignore and just move on from, are now the bedrock on which the show is built.
Steven Universe Future doesn't know what it's supposed to be. and I don't know if they think they're being self aware by making that Steven's main flaw, or if it's just a hilarious coincidence. the painful part is that there are elements of this that could've worked well in other contexts. like, if Volleyball had been introduced earlier in the show, before Pearl had fully moved past Rose... if Volleyball's pain hadn't been just another really transparent way to twist the "Pink Diamond was an asshole" knife, and if Pearl actually got to connect with her over something that felt less exploitative by the writers, then that could've been great. honestly, I even hate that she's called "Volleyball" because like... it would've been really cool for Pink Pearl to choose something for people to call her?
or like, I think Steven could have an arc that centers around him not knowing what to do with himself after the main plot of the show concludes... but it'd be nice if it felt like the writers themselves had an answer for that. like, I can almost connect with Steven on the level of someone who felt really lost after getting out of college. my life was really unstructured, and I felt really detached from a lot of people as everyone went on to do their own stuff, with seemingly little regard for staying connected. I can... almost. get that vibe off of Steven in Steven Universe Future. but they don't play it consistently enough. especially in that episode where the gems want to play Steven tag, like, on top of that premise just being really bone-headed for Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl to keep pushing, Steven also doesn't react like someone who misses the good old days? even though it's implied in the episode where Lars goes back to space that that's exactly what Steven's issue is? and I'd actually be interested in Steven maybe getting a bit of a messed up perspective about handling discussion of his mom after all that's happened... but when he yelled at Volleyball and Pearl, nothing ever came of that. Pearl never asked Steven if he was alright, Steven never apologized for the outburst... we never even got a shot of Steven looking worried in the background _because_ nobody bothered to ask him why that happened. we just don't know how anyone is feeling about this, and the show isn't interested in trying to find out.
and this is how you take the largely emotion-driven storytelling of a slice of life drama, and mix it with the monumental scale of some universe spanning space war, but in all the wrong ways. you end up linking big plot to big emotions, and you forget that the emotions have to come from somewhere, and go somewhere. if you're just throwing out feelings from one episode to the next, and they don't add up to anything... what's the point? and like I said, there's almost a through line. you can see Steven fishing around for a place in life that feels comfortable, and you can recognize why this would be hard for someone who has been fighting other people's battles from such a young age. you can understand why Steven would be at loose ends, and looking for something to make his life meaningful... how does one go back to slice of life after spending so long in space war mode? but they aren't handling the topic with any sensitivity at all, and like, even if Steven had the flaw of lashing out at the people who are trying to help him because it doesn't feel like they really get what he's going through, because he doesn't fully get it either... (which they did in a previous season btw)... they could make an effort to show that this is actually hurting Steven, and that the people around him care enough to notice that?
but whatever. I wasn't expecting much from this season anyway, because the show was botched since the finale.
When you can defeat cosmic nazi empire, but can't deal with puberty
underrated comment
Den Alpha I mean, accurate
Aaaahahahahahaha!
OHHHH *WHEEZE*
Defeated? Barely.
He showed up, cried, turned pink, then made a sassy comeback and it was over, that was it.
The gems fought in a WAR and they lose to a CACTUS B R U H
Logic lol
Garnet Amethyst and Pearl have just been extremely and I mean EXTREMELY FUCKING nerfed
except amethyst but that still doesn't excuse it
hey a cactus is earth's most durable plant! >:(
@@fadingkoz it just has spikes. Minus that, the Tree is, as wood is fucking sturdy as all hell.
It's like Rebecca saw how much we were complaining about Steven being a wet blanket, so she turned him into a worse version of the hulk.
PixelKnight true
Lelelslskskksksks
"Haha! Got your nose!"
Milly KKitty OH NO
@@MillyKKitty lmao, I'm crying
Did Steven ever consider talking to his DAD Greg about his issues if he feels he can't tell the Crystal Gems? You know, the person who his MOM got with?
Steven's a douchebag teen. What teen talks to their parents?
It’s difficult to talk about that stuff. 😬
Greatsaiyakirby Steven only needs the gems they are strong and independent women
Let me go back to drinking my soy latte and attending my liberal arts class
Thats the thing, any notice how we see a lot less if greg now that we know Rose is PD? He use to be a vital character to the show but now we see very little of him
@@williamshenk8957 Similar thing happened to Connie. She's basically been adandoned sver since the movie.
“Did Rose ever learn to control the Pink Gay?”
That’s my secret... I’m always Gay
Hahaha underrated comment 😂
@@Sqwivig it truly is😅😅😅
“That’s my secret Cap, I’m always angry”
-Bruce banner
@@markusandrew3680 from the best Marvel movie
**WHEEZES**
Sick of amethyst acting like she's so mature now? Isn't that what he's been doing. When did Steven become a hypocrite?
_I'm so sick of Amethyst acting like she's so mature now. It's like, get over yourself!_
Um, what the hell? In What's Your Problem, Steven praised Amethyst for maturing and in Guidance, he apologized for not trusting Amethyst with the gem mentorship program. She actually knew what she was doing, yet he still tried to control what everybody did, which he realized was wrong.
Second, Amethyst isn't ACTING like anything. She really HAS grown up. It's Steven who needs to "get over himself", especially after his rude behavior in Snow Day, where he thought he was too good for a Together Breakfast, Steven Tag, or his Cheeseburger Backpack anymore.
rhonda howard this is kinda an over reaction nobody’s gonna read that over something so small
@@roastedlocket2_572 Dude, this wasn't seasons ago. Unless someone has short-term memory loss, Guidance happened a few episodes before Prickly Pair, and Steven wasn't sneering at Amethyst's "tryhard maturity" then.
Literally every interaction they have had before Prickly Pair was remarkably positive and perhaps the healthiest out of all the Crystal Gems.
He misses someone to hangout with. Amethyst was always a "fun big sister" for Steven until now. So I'd be pretty annoyed too.
Minty the Cactus She literally forced him to lighten up with a game of Steven Tag along with the other gems! But SHE’S the one who isn’t fun to hang out with anymore? If anything, Steven’s the one who is growing up too fast and pushing his family away.
I found it inconsistent that one of Steven's new character arcs in this season is anger management and not giving into fighting.......only to have him be the one to preach to Lapis about not giving into anger or fighting in "Why So Blue?"
People change, times change, trauma is real and valid
Inconsistent? Steven always gaslighted his 'friends' -victims- to invalidate their feelings. Nothing new.
@@uneterostardust8233 exactly
Saying Steven's arc is "anger management" is a really shallow read on the real flaws of his character, being that it's more about the inability to get help when he was always the helper, as well as losing a sense of purpose. The anger is only a side effect of this at best?
@@peachie5000
Bruh, he said anger management was "one of" his arcs, not *the* arc.
Pay attention before you pop off, fam.
I hate how Greg went from Stevens loving father who is cool and always there, to a random person who after seeing Steven being sad or in pain, would just leave with a lame joke
Edit: this comment was made before the episodes with Greg and Steven being together
You can almost feel how much they wrote him downwards and wanted to make him useless in Steven's life.
The new episode kinda changed that, though, with him abandoning his tour after Steven opened up about the trauma he has been experiencing throughout the entirety of the show. It's weird, when did the show started having actually good episodes?
@@TheNexDude wait? An actually good farther character in a show was written out? I would have never guessed!
@@Mockthenerd well, there are some.
@@Janfon1 yaa
I COMPLETELY lost faith in the show's writing in the diamond redemption arc.
If they want to teach a lesson, then some people just CANNOT be redeemed with a pat on the head.
And if you can redeem them, you can't undo many millennia of a deeply rooted philosophy over night. You need time, and patience. The writers had plenty of time and no patience.
I said to my sister long before the Diamond Arc, 'If they redeem White Diamond, I'm done with this show.'
I was very iffy about the other Diamonds redemption, but White???
No, you can't be seriously be telling me that the supreme gem leader who has abused gems, killed millions of lifeforms and is feared by all who mention her name, was taken down with one roast line and that's it!
@@absolite6 ikr
@@absolite6 Steven doesn't even like being around the diamonds. They weren't redeemed. Steven just stopped them from doing what they were doing
@@idkmyytname129 I still think the handling of the Diamond Arc was paced poorly.
Season 5 in general was all over the place....
Absolite 6 this wouldn’t have happened if the Crewniverse didn’t waste our time with pointless Beach City people-centric episodes. Or if Steven hadn’t been such an annoying idiot in Season 1. Or if the character models in Season 1 didn’t look like shit
I can't be the only one who was just so ticked off at Steven lashing out and literally nearly murdering Greg for no reason at all-
Pelican OuR NaME Is BAsEd OFf A SoNG!!?!
Pelican and in the following episode, he murdered jasper- W H A T
@Broc Kelly oh steven tried to kill him for escaping an abusive relationship with his parents and for getting with his mom because all Steven wanted to do is be normal
Yea fuck it Steven is a douche bag in SUF
@@boxinthejack2166 LeT mE tRy To KiLl My DaD NoW
@@cloudieskye5130
>Wants to be normal
>Does something only a suicidal psychopath would do.
People are giving this a pass because they want more trauma representation. This is not good representation. People dealing with trauma deserve so much better. So glad to see someone who isn't afraid to call out this shows issues and not kiss ass.
as a person with trauma I agree with you
@@lovelygalaxy oi if anything stevens "trauma" looks more like hes going insane
I also love how they ironically make Sunstone say to use your time wisely, but they can’t even do that themselves with all the filler episodes.
The way they deal with PTSD is horrifying. I have a family member who has it and hugging her won't do shit. She has to go through therapy to be remotely ok
Says the one random internet dude who doesn't even know about writing at all.
Why do I feel like they got rid of Connie and peridot so Steven wouldn't have an outlet for his frustrations?
Well they're back
And Greg tried to help Steven too in the newest episode sooooo
Bluebird was a horrible episode. It ruined Aquamarine’s character, making her a bad generic villain and the writing was REALLY bad. A Very Special Episode is indeed a contender for worst episode of the whole series.
9752matt It ruined her character by basically making her a laughably bad incompetent villain along with Eyeball. She doesn’t even do anything all that threatening or sadist. Most of the episode is her and Eyeball literally pulling weak pranks and cutting Greg’s hair. It’s not even manipulative because everyone can see right through the ploy, even Steven wasn’t surprised. And we just got done trying to reason and redeem the Diamonds, Spinel and Jasper and yet these two midgets we haven’t seen in a couple of seasons are apparently so evil that Steven considers them not worth redeeming.
Honestly a very special episode is just a filler to me
CreepECrawlyMan I honestly agree with everything you said. Hell, even prior those two proved to be legitimately threatening.
@@CreepECrawlyMan Well Yeah, they took her OP wand away. She's nothing without that.
personally loved 'a very special episode'
Peridot has had less than 1 minute of screentime and since she's my favourite character who also got almost completely ignored in the movie....yeah, that sucks.
The only character who had a satisfying character arc.
And tossed her aside.....
Also Connie...
So far....
Character arc done... *Let's toss them they don't matter anymore* i mean, Bismuth didn't even have an arc, they used her twice and threw her to the garbage can
peridot became a whiny twat after she got smaller
Not too me. Steven was more whiny and annoying. A show about Dot and the others would have been better than SU future.
the show is so determined to make Pink diamond the worst character ever that they now have decided to make Steven follow in her footsteps. Its honestly the reason i hate the show now, instead of writing antagonists with irredeemable qualities to add tension to the show they just make 90% of everything bad to ever happen pinks fault.They refuse to commit to a character being a villain and instead push off all the more serious faults and character flaws onto PD because she's dead and cant be redeemed
Yeah. More and more I'm wondering why what's the point of redeeming the characters of you need someone to be the irredeemable bad guy?
And thats what i dont get, theres plenty of characters that they could use as antagonists or even just foils for steven. White was a perfect opportunity for the series irredeemable big bad guy but they made her good after only her second on screen appearance
But isn’t that the main conflict, most of Stevens problems are because his mother is pink diamond.
@@markusandrew3680 but not all of its her fault, she's as much a victim of the system she was made in to as steven is. She suffered abuse, neglect the over whelming pressure of being a diamond but the show only ever focuses on her as the bad guy. she's looked at with more disgust for abandoning spinel than yellow was for making the cluster, and thats like Nina Tucker times a thousand.
William Shenk I think that’s because yellow isn’t Stevens mom dude, we’re they supposed to take a big segment of the movie to show yellow making the cluster or something I think it’s supposed to be implied that that was the wrong way to go and Steven forgiving the diamonds for what they’ve done is kinda messed up but it wasn’t like Steven could beat the diamonds at the time he still hadn’t come close to fully developing powers and I think everyone wishing for an unredeemable villain is weird because I feel like the point of characters like rose and the diamonds is that even though they’ve committed bad things they are still redeemable even though irl that would be very hard to forgive
Steven: Amethyst, I think you might be the most mature Crystal Gem.
Also Steven: I'm so sick of Amethyst acting like she's so mature now.
Yeah I loved SU until Future
That was the line that infuriated me the most out of this entire dumpster fire.
@@Cartoonshi I kid you not, that line made me contemplate quitting the show. It angered me that much.
Keoh 8 Oh yeah because something positive like recognising someone’s maturing to better themselves being then countered by the same person being a hypocrite is totally called for.
Steven went from this immature, annoying little brat who the gems always had to placate and drop everything they were doing to play with and explain s*it to to basically Jesus who can't take 5 minutes to play a game of tag in 2 show years' time, but resents amethyst for maturing in the same span of time. Spells hypocrite to me.
@Keoh 8 "Let's not focus on why this line is bad for this character in ways the show did not intend and focus on how it's the whole point of the episode when it clearly isn't."
Someone: So the artwork, character models and animation is finally consistent?
Me: Yes...
Someone: What did it cost?
Me: ...Everything.
animation is still bad. Its SOMEWHAT consistent, but still bad.
Only way to tell unironically that the show is consistent, is to compare older seasons of itself.
Lou Minous It’s really not bad at all. The fact that it’s more consistent makes it better.
@@louminouz It isn't bad at all.
Nah it didn't cost anything.
Unpopular opinion: bluebird makes me feel uncomfortable..
-beauty lady- me to
Why? I’m kinda confused
Same her design was too creepy for me
Is it her 4 legs?
It's not unpopular.
season 1: blessing
season 2: cool
season 3: alright
season 4: good
season 5: wait stop
movie: thank you for sto-
su future: I SAID STOP
but for real, it upsets me they fucked up this show
at this point the finale is going to be equivalent to the star vs finale.
Season 4 was the worst tho
Hipster Madara some people say that but I don't get why honestly...
@@jaydenc367 It's because season 4 had a lot of filler like along with some of the shows most hated episodes. (Onion Gang. Rocknaldo and to some extent Room For Ruby). A lot of episodes were pointless and aside from the zoo arc and the last 4 episodes nothing progressed the story much making Season 4 feel 50% pointless.
@@justjulian4950 it also had some great episodes like gem harvest (which didn't deserve the political hate it got...) Mindful education The good lars etc I don't see why people would hate room for ruby really. I will admit season 4 probably had the most filler but a lot of that filler were good episodes even for character development
I would say even if it was more plot focused season 5 was porbably the actual bad season if I was to say there was a bad season
S4 was the worst tbh
(SPOILERS FOR THE ENTIRE SU: FUTURE SERIES)
My biggest problem is that every antagonist that was teased in the opening only lasted one episode each and never appeared again - and they weren't even actual antagonists most of them. The Lapis' were mostly annoying, but not antagonist worthy despite being portrayed as such. Jasper may be a brute but she is far from an antagonist in the series, she just minds her bussiness. White Diamond turned pink - actually, where the hell was that? That short moment of Steven taking control of her and trying to smash her gem through a pillar? That was worthy enough to tease as a seperate villain? The only "antagonists" actually doing something were Cactus Steven, Bluebird and the big Wormy Boy, who we now know for sure to be Steven. But they never went anywhere. Their saga ended the same time they were introduced, so all I can say is I was underwhelmed.
God, I forgot about that.
YES the lapis’s were in the villain shot in the title song but they were there for a single thing!!!! They hyped me up for nothing. The only “villain” in this season was Steven himself
For me i fell like it would have been way better if only aquamarine apeared as an antagonist because she had a good reason but ruby didn't really make sense( they were both celebrated for taking down homeworld's greatest traitor, it makes sense at aquamarine cause she brought steven at the trial but what did eyeball do to be celebrated? She just fought steven in space which she lost, and she was a witnesser at a trial that's it. She didn't do anything worth celebreating)
Sophia Insanity hey, one problem at a time shit mouth
Carlos Okumura it’s a recap, you can have more than one problem. Probably didn’t need to say shit mouth either
So is Steven basically Jake Skywalker now?
“I came to this greenhouse to die!”
Go, away. NOW! -Jake Universe Future
Vinh Do “The legacy of Homeworld is failure”
@@alexandram5845 "It's time for the Crystal Gems... To end."
You mean drake?
Who TF is Jake Skywalker
Steven was more mature when he was a kid
FAX
Can't complain about that...
F a C t S
i miss the old steven the older one is just some typical angsty teenager
@Avery Warren nah, at least Steven back then wasn't as irrational as he is in future
I live for this guy's insults.
Same here!!!~ They're like nutrients for the bloodstream!~😂👌
The best ones are:
"You fucking ham."
"You muppet-fucks"
"You Radioactive hemorrhoid."
The most unique insults 😂🤣😳🤣
I mean, his points were good, but those were some of the weakest parts of the video imo. I've heard funnier from AVGN, lol
Flea Rugツ It’s just like I said in the video - Comedy is subjective, as long as it is recognised as an attempt at humour
Garnet is not as wise as she used to be ☹️
Yup ;(
Old Garnet: great strong female character with cool future vision and shit.
Modern Garnet: 𝗙𝘂𝗦𝗶𝗢𝗻 𝘁𝗔𝗹𝗞 𝗕𝘂𝗟𝗹𝗦𝗵𝗜𝘁.
After we found out she was fusion she turned into a background character only used to talk about fusion. She used to be a wise, cool headed leader of the gems and a good “mother” figure for Steven. Then they reduced her to “fUsIon TaLk” I was so pissed when they ruined one of the best characters.
@@sadsadtearsofaclown859 I may be a fusion myself (a pokemon fusion, but still, a fusion), but I am also pissed.
Seriously, Garnet was cool, but now she's just exposition for fusion and that pisses me off.
@@trevevern6788 seriously. They reduced her down to basically nothing smh
Oh wait so you can't heal Volleyballs form from the damage her trauma caused but you still can heal Jasper from the gem equivalent of _death?_
Jasper reformed with unhealable scars from her shattering that were meant to parallel Volleyball's. You should be asking why Volleyball worshipping Pink after Pink abused her is treated as the serious issue it is but Jasper worshipping Steven as her diamond after he murdered her is left unresolved and played off as a joke in the last episode
@@johart6181 its even worse when you realize that Jasper's behavior after she was literally shattered and fixed cause why have fucking consequences anymore, is similar to animals who have been dominated or broken by their masters
becasue steven dominated her she has been broken or pacified into being his servant
it’s fucked up man.
@@johart6181 Dude, I never realized that
.. Now i'm grossed me out. help
Garnet defusing because of the Pink Dimond being Rose reveal was basically the splitting of the fandom on screen
“And I’m sick of Amethyst thinking shes SOOOOO mature now!”
Me: W- YOUR THE ONE WHO CALLED HER MATURE IN SEASON 5-
Not to mention, she IS mature now!
When Amethyst gave the corrupted gems jobs she knew what she was doing
WELL GUESS WHAT STEVEN Wants TO DO EVERYTHING BECAUSE HE IS SO FUCKING PERFECT AND HE GAVE THE GEMS WRONG JOBS AND ALMOST KILLED PEOPLE AND RUINED EVERYTHING
@@cloudieskye5130 Ik su sucks
Mhm
+FallenAngelFinn-This is another case of where the SU writers simply don't pay attention to their own show. Having Amethyst struggle to handle the Pink Diamond revelation was one of the better moments of the revelation that destroyed the entire show. Amethyst was having a hard time coping with it but she understands that Steven is suffering the most out of all of them. Pink/Rose is his mother, Steven is the one who has to live in her shoes and reconcile what she did. Amethyst knows that no matter how much it hurts her that her "mother" repeatedly lied to her and was a massive hypocrite-Amethyst should accept who she is but Pink/Rose never accepted who she is and repeatedly ran away from the responsibility of her true identity-she needs to be there for Steven. She was the only one who was thinking about Steven during that time. And Steven could see that.
He was proud of who Amethyst become, especially because he had a hand in helping her finally be happy with herself. . .Future: F it, Steven is so petty, vindictive, and jealous of Amethyst for no reason. Even before the cactus episode where he shits on her behind her back, he took away her position to find the other Gems jobs because he decided that HE knew better over what the Gems needed and not Amethyst. So what if Amethyst was actually doing a good job before he stole her job, he can do it BETTER. Amethyst is too "immature" to realize what anyone wants, only Steven is bright and mature to figure this out.
Steven is an utter ass to everyone in this season. But the way he treats Amethyst: condescending, disrespectful, snide towards her, that's not anywhere near how Steven ever treated Amethyst before. Amethyst was more like his big sister. In a way, Amethyst understood Steven better than even Pearl and Garnet. Amethyst didn't walk on eggshells with him, she always told him how it is, she didn't overly mother him, and Steven respected that. Amethyst was one of the few people that never pressured Steven to live up to his mother's legacy, just be Steven. And Steven is just an utter snot to her.
Is wrong that I want to comission an artist to draw Batman in the armor he wore in The Dark Knight Returns to fight Superman beating to the living crap out of Steven?
Just watched the most recent episode, Fragments, and things just got so much worse for the narrative.
Spoilers: I could forgive Steven of all the unnecessary and overpowered abilities he has, *all of it,* if he didn't have the power to revive the dead of both organic life *and freaking shattered gems.* Healing is fine (when it's consistent that is). But not even Steven or the weird diamond goo he has should be able to bring back someone who had their soul clipped from this mortal coil. Once someone dies, that's it. How am I supposed to feel any ounce of tension or fear for the characters if there's literally no stakes or casualties that couldn't be fixed immediately? If Jasper was left shattered and was unable to be regenerated because of Steven's actions, that would add so much to what this season is trying to convey; that Steven can't fix all of his mistakes. But nah. Just revive her like she wasn't murdered five minutes ago by an angsty teen with mommy and daddy issues.
Rae Mercier
Personally, it'd be a sin to leave Jasper shattered. Just saying.
@@stirlingno.1296 To an extent I agree. But I would also argue that having your main character immediately fix the murder he caused by bringing the victim back to life with unexplainable and inconsistent powers is a *much* greater sin than Steven unable to fix his greatest mistake. How is a believable character supposed to learn a valued lesson if there are no repercussions in the mistakes they make? If Steven shot his dad and killed him out of anger, stormed off for a week to blow off steam, and came back to revive his dead father after getting over whatever argument they had, he wouldn't be thinking "I shouldn't hurt people or harm the ones I love out of anger because one day I might go too far and do something irreversible," instead he'd be thinking "So all I need to do is leave someone dead for a couple of days if I ever get in a fight with them and then when I come back later and do my thing they can't be upset at me anymore because I literally brought them back to life."
Rae Mercier
...I only think that killing off Jasper would be a sin because I really like her. It’s as simple as that.
@@stirlingno.1296 In that case I completely agree. Apologies for my dumb ramblings. 😅
@@oldoutlet6946 wait...what's inconsistent about fixing Jasper?
So far the entirety of this season has had the same feeling as the svtfoe finale. They "complete" way too many plot points way too fast.
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 true
Not really. Nah they don't.
The arcs in SUF are sloppy. And Bluebird, they hinted that they're gonna return. nEvEr ReTuRnEd. And the ending, It was dissatisfying, but I did cry. Jasper and Pink White Diamond were wasted potential. Rebecca Sugar said the main purpose of SUF were to tie loose ends, never lived up to it. A better plot would've been Steven figuring out the origins of the gems or somewhat.
Teefree uwu Speaking of Jasper,he should’ve been dead when she was shattered.The writing is shit.
Or a story they could’ve done is give us baby Steven and actually COVER him doing the homeworld diplomacy thing. Yeah, I guess we might not get spinel, but then she wouldn’t be butchered. Plus more yellow and blue pearl they’re adorable fight me. And hey, diplomacy is about making PEACE. SHOW WHAT MADE THE DIAMONDS PEACEFUL...... just a thought
If anything there were more questions lol
@@bloodymurder1130 SHE**
Andrea Morgan the Music Owl Oof.
I usually don’t care too much for pointing out when a show’s writing is bad, but SU future was so unbearable with its “im a character. This is how I feel exactly without letting you interpret it for yourself. This is the moral. Roll credits” dialog that I couldn’t suffer past episode 2
Why *show* our characters develop over time when we can just *tell* the audience?
It's like
I woke up today and now I feel stressed and I have PTSD now okay time to turn full monster who does nothing oh they hug me PTSD cured*
That's what future feels like
It isn't unbearable and it's writing is fine, it is more then that actually. It really isn't that bad with it's actual moral and writing.
@@Emerardo They do show it though
@@cloudieskye5130 That really isn't what it feels like at all.
I laughed out loud when Steven asked "When did this happen? I didn't see any of this." because the series finally acknowledged that some developments will have to happen offscreen when it focuses on Steven 98% of the time. May 3, 2020, 7:15pm
I like how you time stamp your comments for historical reference.
This feels like Steven is a completely different person then who he was in original series. Like they had to destroy Steven's character up till now so they could have this show. You can have a time skip with out having to change the main character's character.
Steven is toxic, he yells at pink pearl just because she was abused by pink diamond
I know, right? Steven turned into a complete asswipe.
@@johnoconnell5004 he isn't the wipe he is what you wipe
He became his own fandom
Ironic
I miss the old steven, not this cringy angsty teen who acts like the world owes him something
The new Steven looks those cringy edgy oc's made by a 13 white girl
Fandom: *sees the title*
Also the fandom: *grabs a wii remote with a knife atached to it* are wii gonna have a problem?
The SU fandom looks a lot like a cult lately, many fucked up things being treated like they were good because Steven said so.
The wii remote on it's own is painful but to add a knife to it
Fuck you
@Lunamoon ʕっ•ᴥ•ʔっ you mean **wIiZe?**
*pulls out nintendo switch blade* that depends
Steven Universe is my favorite show of all time and I actually agreed with almost everything he said so that shows how bad this season is
I think the major problem is, they need to break away from Steven's perspective and instead of making characters that would bring about this conflict,
they've torn apart their own character to fulfill this purpose. Either way, repeatedly bringing up Rose for every point of conflict when they 'redeemed' space Nazis,
isn't really helping their point either. They should focus on the Diamonds, instead of Pink.
If you want to really see some go over the POV problem the most, go watch Sarcastic Chorus. The thing is, that problem literally gets worse with each season. Season 1) You don't notice it. Season 2) You don't notice it, but start to feel there are ideas that could've been explored more. Season 3) You finally realize it, but aren't annoyed that much. Season 4) You're finally annoyed. Season 5) You're angry because there were really important arcs (specifically Lars') that you couldn't see because of this rule. Future) You're just done.
I agree. Steven is my least favorite part about this season. I just like what's happening around him, like other characters or the settings. I also miss old Garnet.
Lagw I actually like Steven in the show but it’s just my opinion
@@rishushah4199 I mean, My opinion is very subjective. Specially in a show like this
Lagw exactly, i also miss old garnet she became just eh she was amazing earlier but this weeks ep she was actually cool
What do you mean eh
@Broc Kelly exchange amethyst with pearl and you got steven universe future, pearl's final line is literally comic relief, she's just crying and stuff
Steven is such a toxic person. He still blames his mother for what he’s been through while it was all the other diamonds faults. Pink acted that way because of The other diamonds plus the other diamond did even worse things than she did (They shattered millions of gems, made them stuck together and made the perfect gems their slaves. Destroyed planets and countless other life forms. But Pink just broke pink pearls eye accidentally, left Spinel in the garden and the diamonds didn’t gave her the chance to have her own colony and spoiled her by giving her 2 pearls and a Spinel plus they emotionally and physically abused her for thousands of years. Like, Blue made her cry in a room all by herself, We saw Yellow pulling Pink’s arm in Jungle Moon and Pink literally showed that it hurted her arm, and I’m pretty sure that it wasn’t the first and last physical abusement Yellow did to Pink, and then we heard White saying that Pink wasn’t fit to be a diamond or to rule a colony like the other diamonds, TO HER FACE) but Steven forgave them in 1 episode and kept on blaming his mother like he did nothing wrong in his past.
Write all that and then Rebecca had the nerves to call spinal toxic 😑
Not to mention the fact that he's become such an egomaniac. I wanted to yell at him when he told Jasper that basically she was defeated 'because I defeated you' and I was like, last time I looked you had to fuse with amethyst, but okay way to dismiss her.
Yes thank you she was like that because of the diamonds
Bruh@@OwlBard
Well he (and us) basically experienced Pink's character development backwards, Pink was a bad person that eventually became compassionate and selfless, Steven grew up learning about his compassionate mother only to slowly discover as the show progresses, the kind of person she used to be before the end, and meeting all the people she hurt
The idea was decent....
But the execution was bad...
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 Imagine telling me why you don't like my content and then bragging to about 50 different people in this comments section about the fact that you don't like it. I didn't care the first time, but now can you actually fuck off and say something original? Because you were among 10 of my marked for spam comments today.
Kayle Mathew Comendador Fuck off
Kayle Mathew Comendador Almost like this comment
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 to clear things up I was talking about Steven Universe Future. The video was realy well made and had some very good points.
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 Longman bad.
Also you have not clarified why the video is poorly done other than "I don't like this person". Also it's interesting you respond now, did you get your computer taken away from 4 months?
I feel like they centered the second series on "mental illness" for internet brownie points, but they didn't even cover that kind of material correctly. Steven had no real reason to all of a sudden start having P.T.S.D. over problems and things that he opened up about and dealt with emotionally in the original series. This series never pulled it's punches when it came to allowing the characters to express what they were feeling, and they always worked together to make sure that everyone was physically and emotionally ok.
It feels like the writers were so desperate to write a story about mental health that they pulled non-existent problems out of thin air. This follow up could have been so amazing, but they didn't do anything remotely exciting for the fans. Heck, they actually had dialogue where he straight up just says he might not ever come back when he's about to leave. Like it was his families fault that all of this happened. This could have been such a fun way to catch up with what everyone was getting up to in the future...but I guess that was too high a standard.
Rebecca Sugar stated she wanted to write about the PTSD in it because she read a book about it. Its so ridiculous.
Not gonna lie,
I am beyond tired of all the anime references.
I know, right? Weebs are so annoying.
Im also tired of the references but at the same time I’m a weeb, I’m very conflicted
@@katsukibakugo7101 that's fair. I don't have any problem with anime but it seems like a good 3/5ths of the show is anime references and it was never given much of a rest
Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen for real bro
Literally some fight scenes are taken from other animes (pearl vs holo pearl for example) idk its good to make references but what they do here is just lazy
I'm honestly kind of jealous that you were able to get enjoyment out of this series, even if it was ironic. I was just so *bored* .
He seems so unironically angry at this show it's hard to read that he enjoyed anything
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964
Good for you
Phil “unironically”
I kinda have a disclaimer for this kind of confusion at the start of the video, I never get this angry at anything unironically.
@@Cartoonshi I don't understand how anyone can get "ironically angry" at something
@@ThatGreenMach1ne It's very clearly for comedic effect dude. You are able to overexaggerate anger.
I feel like the story they wanted to tell with Steven is the very idea of forgetting past mistakes and thus being doomed to repeat them, to be honest. Sure it doesn't excuse how every character except Steven has "moved on" (except for Pearl too I guess??) So easily, but I like to think it's symbolic of how as a child we are blindly optimistic, and as we grow and learn about just how terrible the world can be, we grow jaded and insecure get too stubborn to try getting better on our own. Steven surely has NOT become self aware enough to understand his own ego. I like to think that can happen when you accidentally start behaving like the very people you rebelled against.
That being said, the way they keep resolving these situations? Forced, lazy, way too fast...
The first four episodes stopped me from wanting to keep up with the episodes because everything just happened way too quickly and without any sort of true understanding. Repeat arcs can be really good!! But this is not the way to do it. I know the show is about Steven but God they didn't didn't do Jasper or Lapis any Justice and I will not forgive that.
The pink gay is probably just him coming to terms with who his mother was, since he learned about her younger years long after the symbol of her was already starting to crumble. And I am serious as someone who has witnessed my mom act out now the same way my grandmother's been acting for years. If you try to ignore something you absolutely CAN'T fix it.
That's my take. Overall I agree with you that everyone else is written terribly, but Steven himself has a lot more going on, despite the pacing ruining it
I definitely think that Steven's arc in this season could've been done well, no doubt about it, I just don't think that's the case right now. Good take.
this is pretty respectful criticism, amazing
I can't stand how the diamonds were redeemed. By that logic steven would've befriended Hitler or Kim Jong un.
@@fizzypopped yeah, I think the ending would be much better if Pink Steven got too powerful and ended up shattering white, imagine Steven having to think about the fact that he shattered someone, more importantly a diamond, which is irreversible
wonder how he woulda turned out
Exactly!
YOO 😭
One thing I hate about this season are the colors. Seasons 1-3 were able to balance the colors, making them look pretty and making them match, the shading and lighting effects were on point. But this season's colors were somehow dull and eye-bleeding at the same time.
Facts
Yeah
So basically Steven suffers the same thing that happened to his mom remember how rose was a passionate loving and caring charater like a saint and later on was made to be satan refusing "the Trinity" after rose being pink diamond reveal yeah that's exactly what's happening
I feel like it's going backwards because Pink diamond becomes more positive while Steven grows more negative
@@kutsara_tiyan yes in chronological order but we saw pink diamond the other way around
You mean how rose was trying to get rid of boredom by going to earth and having "fun" using other people, ignoring their feelings and shit? Yeah... lovely character.
@@uneterostardust8233
She only did that at first but after seeing the humans she realized they shouldn't be destroyed
@@mikemorro140 and then faked her death, making the diamons pissed, starting a war with her own soldiers only to all go in vain and everyone be corrupted/shattered to suffer *FOREVER* ....
Like peridot said: THANKS rose quarts, you doomed the planet.
This show drove its van into my heart, then they locked the doors and flooded it with exaust.
Seriously wtf were they thinking
i love this comment
Underrated comment here.
For me, the cactus episode was the last straw. I couldn’t even comprehend it. The literal description of this show says Steven is tying loose ends. Instead, it’s just causing MORE problems. I wanted this season to be a satisfying ending and laid back but they just made it extremely chaotic. I like this show but GOD. I just really hope (which probably won’t happen) this show will pull itself together.
I think the Steven Universe writers have no idea how to portray mental disorders. They gave off a really bad idea in my opinion by making Steven turn into a monster because he had what, ptsd? And he KILLED someone and made up with a hug? Also, basically everything anyone with a problem does is just whine and be upset about it. They never get to the root of the problem and solve it. It doesn’t make sense. Steven Universe as a whole doesn’t know how to handle problems in characters. And yes, this season was terrible.
Don’t forget despite Spinel being an accurate representation of BPD they just said
“Yeah I know you’re mentally losing it and need help so here’s what I got. Why don’t we send you to the space nazis and say you need to find someone else to be dependent on. There’s your happy ending.
God that ending for spinel actually rubs me the wrong way
Steven Universe Future: Remember all that character development from the other seasons? Yeah...
Let's forget all of that.
Because plot convinience and bad writing, it's all over the place, and as an artist, if i were to work for the SU crew, i would like to draw as accurate as possible with the character models, personalities, powers, fight scenes and story, cuz that's what i try to do with my own characters, the giving storyboard artists freedom shouldn't be a thing, older cartoons have more consistency than SU, Mindful Education was by a japanese storyboard artist, which looked great, the animation was fluid and the characters models were consistent, and no, just because its a kid's cartoon, it doesn't excuse it from critisism, kids deserve a good cartoon.
But that's my opinion, i do like the character designs and the concept of it.
At least with a show like OK KO: Let's be Heroes, where it goes off model all the time too, it fits more with the comedic tone of the show. You're laughing *with* it rather than *at* it.
But Steven Universe where the tone is more serious, the off-model animation comes across more jarring and very distracting. If it won't take its animation seriously, why should we take the show seriously?
@Keoh 8 Maybe kids might notice, maybe they won't.
But from a professional point of view, it's very inconsistent and is an example of how *not* to storyboard your show.
Heck, whether kids like the show or not, it *might* give aspiring young animators of all ages the wrong idea of how to storyboard/animate.
Let's say for instance I knew someone (kid or adult) who wanted to get into animation, this wouldn't exactly be the show I'd show as a glowing example of animation done right. More than anything I'd show it as the opposite.
That would be my take.
Its also worth noting that the same Japanese storyboard artist worked on the Steven Universe movie, which is a huge stark contrast between the movie and whats happening in the show in terms of story, animation and just how everything is being directed rlly.
the animation has always been good seriously do people not understand animation is movement?
@@jaydenc367 Yes, animation is movement, everyone knows that, but it's how you execute it depending on your skill level, not all animations are gonna be good, some could be choppy, others fluid etc
It's just Steven Universe had too many off model characters with no consistency in height, design, style, personalities and powers, a good storyboard artist must be consistent as possible by looking at the character sheets and informations about them, that's basic 101 in animation, i still struggle with that myself.
SU fight scenes lacks weight and impact, sometimes shaking the camera a bit works just as fine, as well as the timing of punches or hits with weapons can help.
But aside from the animation, what really killed SU for me was the bad writing and plot conviniences, that really turned me off from the show, but the concept and character designs is what i do like about it, so i can draw my own fan fiction of SU with my ideas.
When Steven shattered Jasper, I literally said, out loud, *"THAT'S NOT MY BABY!!!"* Also, is it just me, or do the characters not act like themselves at all?
You’re right. They don’t act like themselves.
Not only is the writing not good, but there is another sin this show has committed ...
No spinel
Artic Peacemaker
She’ll appear eventually, it’s guaranteed
Spinel's arc is OVER. I don't mean to be rude but squeeing fanboys/girls are the worst with her character. She got over her issues. She's supposed to have gotten her resolution with the Diamonds. Whether you like that or not, it happened, and I honestly don't see them doing much else with her character, because it is NOT about her. It's called *Steven Universe Future* so it's going be about _Steven's Future._
Wow really
@@rhondahoward8025 Just because a character got a resolution doesnt mean we cant get more about them. Peridot had an arc and ended when she became friendly with the Crystal Gems, but that didnt meant we couldnt see more from her. Reason why a lot of people want to see more from Spinel is because shes the one of the best villains, if not the best, the series had. Also, wanting to see more from a character is not being a Fanboy/Fangirl, is just wanting to see more from a character. Nothing wrong with wanting more from a series.
Artic Peacemaker Yeah, and leaving her with the Diamonds of all people definitely made ME want to check up on her too, but the reality is it’s unlikely she will make another appearance unless we go to Homeworld again or the Diamonds visit. Also, I don’t know how available Sarah Stiles is. Peridot’s exclusion was frustrating because there was actual narrative reason for her to continue to contribute much more than she did. She’s wasted potential. It’s hard to say where Spinel would even fit in the story’s trajectory with Steven’s crisis.
Why is the domestic abuse victim named "Volleyball" that's so messed up bro
Eh. Steven named the Ruby Squad as well to try to differentiate them. Also, there was a Volleyball game going on next to them. Steven ain't that creative.
i just realized how bad that was oh god
Wait what does that name even mean?
Theres something wrong whit that wierd name? 😟
Kind of funny.
Aye the show might be shit now, but I can't lie MOST of the music still slaps.
Completely agree.
@@Cartoonshi so you like the music? Or naw
Steven Universe music will forever be great!
@@ForrestFox626 that's a fact. It's to bad the writing is bad
Luis Rosales “Completely agree” my guy
This video does not deserve so many dislikes
4.1k likes.
oh yes it does
@@demianh.m2699 no it doesn't
@@demianh.m2699 so, a video talking about the OBVIOUS FLAWS of a ruined TV show is bad?
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Jokes aside, this video is good, and if you hate it, don't watch it and bitch about it.
Agreed. SUF is literally GOT S8 to SU and it didn’t even get a decent ending or consistent animation. It’s THAT bad of a show
I think they've been doing too much "filler" and not enough time pacing this limited series. Like. Why make a villian title screen if they're all just one-offs? And the buildup to steven losing it was not done well.
I'm just choosing to look past the flaws to let myself enjoy the last episodes of the show.
I found the whole thing to be part of the buildup and relevance to everything before and after
I get what you mean the whole series felt so patchy in plot development
I adore Steven Universe but BOI I really dislike how they've handled Steven Universe future so far
Plot twist: Steven is possessed by Pink Diamond
That would explain alot.
@@paalaaa It explains everything
If they do this I'd stop watching, no lie
Sorry if I sound childish, but I get the feeling the writers are going for something like "Pink used to be super powerful, but then got suppressed by something, and Steven getting hit by the gem rejuvinator reawakened that power."
Honestly that would've been a much better twist.
I completely agree. I feel like with how they set up this season with the previous ones, theres bound to be so many inconsistencies in both plotand character development.
I, personally, am most disappointed with how they handled Pink. Everyone is so focused on what she did _before_ and not what she had become after the war ( to be fair she still wasnt the greatest person, but theres no one else in the show who is any better than her as far as flawed characters go). It's just incredibly unrealistic to put Pink's character as the center of hate and discomfort for most characters, while the rest of the diamonds are given better treatment, writing-wise.
Thanks for sharing your take on this season! Looking forward to hear more soon!
@燈籠草 sucks but it's true
If every gem we’re perfect, we wouldn’t have Steven?
"The Pink Gay" makes this so much funnier
Glad someone else is talking about this. Everyone else is praising it, and I really like this show, but this season just isn’t good.
Thats what i rly like abt him, hes fine with talking abt stuff that most ppl would be mad with. I watched all SU/SUF But I truly didnt like steven ever nd I just watched for the other gems/characters
@@carleymattear6686 I honestly think Gems (species) are cool too.
I personally DESPISE how the show gives examples of how to handle intense emotional situations. "Handle intense emotional situations by yelling angrily! That'll get your point across!" Anyone with half a brain knows this isn't the case! I just wish they'd have better writing and give better examples. :(
The point is that Steven never got a chance to work through his feelings. Now everything has built up and it's just boiling over after all these years. Now Steven has to get his own kind of help.
@@MarkerMurker It's not just Steven. A lot of the gems have been showing how to cope in unhealthy ways and I've seen a drastic change in people I know because they watched this show. They became much more dramatic after watching it due to the poor examples, so I can say this from experience. It's just painful to watch at this point.
But the show isn't saying that's a good way to handle intense emotional situations. They had good enough writers as is and the examples are pretty great.
“my powers are interfering with the tv signal”
That quote makes me laugh every time i read it
specific issues with pacing and characterisation aside, did anyone else generally notice an extreme change of atmosphere within the show as it was coming to an end? like, i can’t even fully describe it, but the tone of everything just seemed so negative and tired that i almost stopped watching-and i had to seriously push myself to finish as it made me feel so bummed out during/after each episode. something just feels really off about both future and the season before it. it’s like you could feel the writers getting exasperated with their own work. i can’t pinpoint an exact moment, but there’s a very noticable slump *somewhere* along the line that makes watching such a nuisance.
Thats what i thought too, tbh
I love how all these vids with legitimate critique get so many dislikes. God forbid someone brings up some problems.
Steven stans are a different breed
I just need to ask. Where the heck is Garnets future vision in any of this? Especially with Bluebird, like... ???
because her future vision is a plot device that is only there when its needed
@@louminouz exactly!
Exactly. Garnet should have seen all the bad things in this show (future) coming
The Crewniverse has no writers, I wonder why the writing is so bad...
The DCAU had better writting than SU, in my honest opinion.
@Saythe I wouldn't go as far to say it ruins kids
I have been a long time fan of this show, and I really love the overall message it brings to its audience, but I can't help but agree with what you're saying. The crew should have ended the series where they originally were supposed to. This new season just feels dry and fan service-y. As much as I like having new content, all good things must come to an end, including Steven Universe
Yea I agree SAME!! I luv the show, but damn they could have done sooooo much better!
I feel like the creators of Steven Universe wanted to make an anime and a western cartoon at the same time, but didn’t know how to do either.
How I felt SUF:
Steven: " I is have trauma and has depression PTSD :(( "
Everyone: * hug *
Steven: " :) "
*Credits roll in*
Alternate ending: hug, Steven roars, everyone falls, clip from Ed Edd n Eddy episode Little Ed Blue of Eddy saying, "way to go Mr. Sensitive. A hug. Oh that's rich."
Please, someone make that
pfft, PTSD is nothing compared to my trauma
Being human is trauma incarnate.
@{𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝒮𝒾𝓁𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝑀𝑜𝑜𝓃} and not everyone’s trauma is solved with a simple hug
Steven Universe: An Unbridled Laugh
My biggest thing was also Steven’s character. He was an ass the ENTIRE season (as well as stupid) and it was so bad that I didn’t feel compassion for him. I know what They we’re trying to show but they really really over did it with Stevens “angst” he was just a horrible person. Which is such a big contrast of who he was before!!!! The entire show rode on the fact that he can nearly turn anyone around just by being kind and caring. SUTF just was awful. Including the ending, it just sucked. It was painful to watch and didn’t even finish the pink diamond thing. It was what was making him turn pink in the first place AND IT WAS NEVER RESOLVED, just disappeared tbh. Gosh it was infuriating. I love Steven Universe but this was... I don’t even have a name for it.
Honestly I never liked steven but i kept watching bc of the gems and side characters
Not only that he was so danm annoying
Fun fact Steven was inconsistent in character starting in season2 he goes from kid who isn't a Pacifist to a Pacifist and future makes him more inconsistent
True I don't fully by the time the show ended I grew up but I know kids don't try to talk it out with violent people hurting their friends and loved ones
Fair point
Kayle Mathew Comendador So he decides to fight when peridot and jasper abduct him and the gems but decide not to fight when fucking murderous opressive space nazis show up?
@@JetblackJay actually Steven is 14 years old in season 2. He is definitely not any normal kid.
“WHAT THE HAPP IS FUCKENING?!?”
- Cartoonshi, Feb. 17, 2020
Steven Universe GT
Bteven Universe
Steven Universe Brotherhood
Steven Universe: Attack of the Clones
Steven Universe: The Last Gem
I just watched someone talk shit about one of my favorite shows and I enjoyed it.
Exist Puppy
I mean you can enjoy a show and still acknowledge that it sucks.
Still mad that a genocidal dictator (white diamond) was redeemed in about 6 minutes. :/ She should've taken a while it come around or stayed a villain. It's one of the dumbest part of the show, how LITERALLY EVERYONE is redeemed and no one stays evil. Smh
Except maybe Aquamarine and Eyeball. Or Navy.
I hate the fact that there's so many characters in here that could have been developed further, like Pink Pearl. But literally every single situation and character ONLY exists for Steven's development. They're not really tied into the story, they're only used as tools to further Stevens mental downward spiral. NOTHING ELSE. So, instead of having a story that makes sense and has some purpose or flow, we only have a chopped up pseudo narrative about the WHAT, and how the what affects Steven. There's no how, there's no why. There's only Steven's development and that's it. That's literally all that really exists in this series.
Here we go again............
Dear God..........
I dont like how they never really solved the whole Rose situation. Steven's feelings about her were sort of left in the air and a good chunk of the watchers are left feeling like Rose was 100% evil, when she became one of the most morally gray characters on the show.
Ok, for the majority of the episodes, I can understand why you thought that the writing was shit.
Because it is.
But, In my opinion, Little Homeschool, Volleyball, and Snow Day all had good writing and solid comedy.
You can think whatever you like, though. These are just my opinions
Ah it’s fine to like those, I can still see why people like them, specifically Volleyball, I just couldn’t really get past a lot of the issues that I saw. Still, each to their own.
Eddie B the rest of the episodes have decent writing and comedy to
Colin GZ // Gamer Boy I don’t think this requires you to spam the same response numerous times to different people in the comments but go ahead bro. (PS, stop)
Colin GZ // Gamer Boy nah it’s just you
@@Cartoonshi I loved all the episodes except bluebird that episode was terrible the comendy was also terrible as well
Am I the only one who thinks Bluebird is the ugliest fusion? It looks so awful to me.
While I personally disagree, I can definitely see where you're coming from and I respect your opinion!
Also idk if you are already aware but at 12:10 The line you're referring to is actually to Jasper, not Spinel
Ah well, kinda slipped my mind seeing as how this takes place right after the movie. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@hubadubatron1045 Thank you for taking the criticism well unlike some other fans.
@@hubadubatron1045 Thank you for taking the criticism well unlike some other fans.
Wow. An actual nice comment
When did everyone become a comedy relief character when’s there’s too much comedy there’s no relief
guys, i think Steven is pitiful. could just be me tho
AgilityDZN oh that’s what he said... I thought he said “i’m not pitbull”
I thought I was the only one here who hated Steven's guts in Future, he's a complete prick to literally EVERYONE
He's! Not! Pitiful!
@@lordlumpus75 this is why people beat up future Steven in my fanfics XD
Steven (Pink Gay) I took that personally
note to writers: turning your nice character mean out of no where just for the sake of drama and conflict is dumb
SU Future would have been better if it focused on the side characters more. Less Steven and more Lapis, Dot, Bismuth, Connie and Lion. But the writers refuse to do that and keep the stupid SU POV even though it is just annoying now. Steven is not an interesting or fun character anymore. He is just an emotionally unstable prock who wants to help everyone but refuses to help himself.
If I was in charge I would have Lapis finally confront Jasper and fight her, finally putting their conflict to rest or an episode where Pearl goes on a date and slowly falls in love, officially moving on from Rose. I would write an episode focused on Connie studying for her final examines and another episode where Dot goes on an adventure with Lion. No more Steven drama just fun side stories about the rest of the cast. I have seen fannfictions better written than the actual show.
Also while I do dislike the show, I do not insult people who like it unlike you. At least that it the tone I am getting from you.
Pearl's character arc is learning to overcome codependency and live for herself, not someone else. So falling in love isn't in the cards for her. Maybe at the very end of the series you could show her on a date and moving on, but we definitely shouldn't have an episode of her being in love. But you're definitely right about the side characters. I'd have loved to see what Lars and Sadie went through without Steven.
Im actually curious to read these fanfictions, could you list some below cuz i dont want to have to read thousands of bad ones looking for the good ones
Who's dot?
Also what sort of fanfics do you mean? AUs? If so I need to know a good one
@@luisrosales3430 Peridot
20:59
To be fair, you can still be sad about things but still move on.
This is coming from a neutral viewpoint, no bias for or against SU, only thing I disagree with is this show being compared/equal to the greats like adventure time.
Yeah, I am aware of this (I mean I'm still battling with my own depression rn), but it doesn't make much sense for a TV show if they are to make people believe that her arc is complete. It's definitely realistic, but for TV it just doesn't work. This scene definitely could've been done well, but to me it kinda failed.
A Wild Doggo
Tbh, Adventure Time started to decay rapidly after Islands, as much as I absolutely adore the show.
I agree
SU *screaming*: PROCESSING TRAUMA WITH ANGER IS VALID!!!
SU *whispering*: ...unless you're Jasper....
unpopular opinion: Lapis should’ve left the main story after warning the gems of Jasper’s arrival with the wailing stone, it literally wouldn’t change anything
Maybe it was good thing that they Ended OK KO when they did otherwise it could've gotten to this point. Still want a movie though with them all grown up as adults that would be cool though
Arkan NOA I agree
@@Unofficial-Name on what
Arkan NOA that it probably was a good thing ok ko ended.
OK KO was cancelled. Also, most episodes of OK Ko are filler with decent comedy (with some story elements every now and then). That's a hard formula to mess up.
This show makes me feel like the Movie was an absolute masterpiece even though it was decent. That's how low it lowered my standards.
I’m also SO confused. Rebecca sugar kept saying things in interviews and stuff, like we’ll learn about why Garnet can’t ask questions, we’ll learn about Amethyst’s relationship with Rose very soon, and she said something like Emerald being separate from the diamonds and is still a villain which we’ll get into. What’s going on with that :D?
Omega Square and they said we’d get an episode where lars discovers his lion powers! Did they just forget??
strawberry key oh yeah!! That’s so weird!
She promised we'd see a lot of things that never happened. Apparently, no one ever told her that you shouldn't tell people things if you aren't sure. Lol
About the garnet never asking questions thing, I think when she first met Rose, Rose told her not to ask so many questions or something, but she took it way too literally. Idk if it’s true, it’s just I had seen a comment answering this question
thanks a lot, toon, ya got me calling Steven’s powers the pink gay now
Honestly, the entirety of Steven Universe is one massive waste of potential and a culmination of god awful decisions and inconsistencies along with a lack of effort where it truly mattered. It was doomed from the start.
When do you think it start?
S1: great were seeing these characters progression as people and we're going out with a bang
S2: even better we're getting incredible character development from peridot love it
S3:Questionable...why are we teaching kids to sympathyce with facits,abusers, murders and demonizing people that disagree
S4:80% filler 20% of Questionable writing
S5: the shows dead the diamonds really don't care about life on other planets literally tried to kill you and your friends and you choose to call them family What??????
SUF:Yea no this was just inconsistent writing how is steven getting mad at amythyist for being immature when he praised her for it in the past, He also called the diamonds family only to ditch them when they were being polite(which is also out of character) this entire season was just steven getting mad because he realizes the world doesn't revolve around him and people and things change.
No lie man, when SU started being sympathetic to abusers and murderers, i thought i was the one one who had a problematic mindset for hating those people and spent the next 2 years sympathising and excusing murderers’ victims death until my cousin slapped me in the face(metaphorically and physically) and gave me a reality check
@@thestrangeandstupidone8116 That's why I hate shows that used to be great. At some point they stop being great and they use their legacy to brain wash you into believing stuff.
@@thestrangeandstupidone8116 He never really forgave them though, wait when was he sympathetic to abusers or murderers?
i have never been so disappointed by a show's ending in all honesty.
As a (Soon-to-be-former) Steven universe fan...
*I STRONGLY AGREE WITH THE TITLE*
I'm sorry but SUF is sooo bad. The episodes are so dry, boring and cringey to watch. On top of that the writers are lazy.
I don't think they have writers....
@@pinkpoofbear5833 the storyboard artists are the writers (which is a horrible idea in first place
plus it's on hiatus again for god knows how long i've poured so many godamn hours into this show i hate the writers for this
@@michlasagna3619 same :/
I’ve accepted that the show is bad for a while now but because it’s been apart of my life for so long I just have sort of an obligation to it at this point