Thanks for this brillant I saw it before but it's so well after great actors actresses no. Artifice just real acting I could watch it more than once they just don't make them like this anymore
Nice to have you back Joseph, it's been awhile my friend.Rex is fine keeping me fit. I've seen this before a few years back and it's well worth a second viewing which will be tonight and as usual will raise a glass to you.Take care my friend kind regards from the Midi Pyrénées to you and all fellow Subscribers.🥂
Hello David! Cela fait un bail. Hope that you are well and having a good time in France and I hear Our friend REX is keeping you fit. We are having a late summer in Algiers. I pray for a cooler weather. A foggy cold weather Is most welcome... Bises d Alger
@@naceranacera5841 Hello Nacera lovely hearing from you again. Like you it's been a hot October low to mid 30's here. Yes Rex is in great form enjoying life. It's good having Joseph back I've missed his uploads. Enjoy your day Nacera and thanks for your message. Bises d Aveyron 🥂
Hello David! I had to send a message wishing you a"Merry Chrismas"to you and all your loved ones! Last but not least a big cuddle to REX. C est le seul moyen, a Travers Joseph's cha nnel! Porte vous bien. Bises d Alger
@@naceranacera5841 Hello Nacera thank you so much for your message it was very kind of you, I hope you're Christmas was a good one. My apologies for the late reply I've only just got back and seen your message. Je vous souhaite un trés bon année avec beaucoup de bonheur santés. Bises d'Aveyron 🥂
George Oldfield was an arrogant prejudiced fool. The fact that the lot of them believed prostitutes deserved what they got and that ‘innocent girls’ were dragged into it was despicable. Watch ‘The Long Shadow’ a 2023 ITV drama series, it redresses the balance very well.
This series showed Oldfield in a sympathetic light, but in reality he himself made bad calls along with the detectives under him and working with him. As good as this series was, "The Long Shadow" gives a more realistic viewpoint.
Oldfield was the wrong officer for the enquiry. 1977, flying high on the success of the unlawful conviction of Judith Ward for the M62 coach bombing, Gregory obviously thought he was the man for the situation ! Huge mistake, as were numerous errors of judgement made by Oldfield, notably his absolute belief in the hoax tape from Sunderland. Cost more women their lives.
Oldfield was not the man for the Ripper enquiry. Thought he knew better since in 1977 he was flying high from the conviction of Judith Ward for the M62 coach bombing (quoshed after Oldfield's death, himself being severely criticised by the judge for keeping evidence from the defense). Bad decisions were made. The abandon of the type enquiry, the 5 pound note lead, and of course the belief in the Wearside hoaxer. Cost the lives of more women.
an excellent drama, many thanks for the upload. I have always highly rated Alun Armstrong, and the other actors played their parts well too. Such tragic loss of lives, unspeakable evil and many families left heart broken and destroyed. Yes, sad that George did not get to enjoy many happy years of retirement.
Since this drama was aired the man who sent the tapes to George has been caught. I'm not sure exactly when; however; he was arrested & spent some time in jail. Quite rightly so. He undoubtedly gave the Ripper the opportunity to murder more women. Thank You Joseph ❤
In a cold case review they decided to retest the envelopes used to send the tapes. Since it was many years later and advancements such as The national DNA Offender database was now available they had a potential new avenue to investigate. Turns out John Humble had been arrested in the years after the hoax and had subsequently given a DNA swab. All because one attention seeking idiot wanted to toy with the police, an entire investigation shifted away from their prime suspect and moved to a completely wrong area of the country. Thus it was reflected in his sentence that even though he never intended for people to get hurt, his actions meant that they did and a golden opportunity to save lives and catch a serial killer was missed.
Thank you very much for uploading this. What a fantastic drama and the acting was exceptional. I remember it all so very well, especially the 'Geordie' who turned out to be a hoax. Had they found him, they should have put him away for life too because he was responsible for further murders, having thrown the police off the trail. Thanks again!!
They did find him in 2005, one of the junior detectives who had worked the case in the 70s became the chief inspector for West Yorkshire, and he reopened the cold case. They examined the letters for DNA, and found a match to a man who’d been arrested in the 2000s for a drunk and disorderly charge. He got sent to prison for eight years, and I believe he died behind bars. If you enjoyed this film, The Long Shadow from ITV is also excellent!
I found this after I’d started to watch the drama series, which somehow they’d very cleverly made really boring despite the terrifying subject. This is excellent, not over or under dramatic and an excellent cast
I couldn’t even watch this after hearing them say for the hundredth time how shocking it was that the YR had started killing ‘innocent girls’ because they weren’t prostitutes. I’d recommend everyone watch the 2023 ITV drama series called ‘The Long Shadow’. It seeks to redress the balance after 50 years of rubbishing the victims for how they earned their money.
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 I didn't know what I wanted to watch this weekend...and came across this delightful gem...I remember this happening back in the day!😢😢
Did he really just say that ? Is he going for innocent women now ?, my god ! This is absolutely fantastic. Far superior thanThe long Shadow on ITV recently.
@@Mike20216 Long Shadow was also really good but still not as accurate as this one. The Long Shadow changed some events like turning one of the victims, Yvonne Pearson into the fictional character of Donna DeAngelo. Then how they also completely missed the attack on Theresa Sykes which was so well done in this one at 2:28:55
The Yorkshire ripper fiasco caused by the ineptitude of our police force was one of the main reasons I moved away from Yorkshire in the mid 70's. Those poor women and their families.
@@gweilospur5877I could certainly address matters *significantly* better than my local constabulary. Primarily, because I don't believe that human beings possess the immutable gift of being able to fairly pass judgment on *_other_* human beings. Police may serve a better purpose by integrating immunity against the possibility of criminal activity occurring, before it starts. For those enthusiastic about the idea of nullifying the possibility of crime - such as myself - I'd happily do this for free (entirely at my own leisure of course). I have several other mechanisms that can be resorted to to establish near perfect justice as possible on Earth, that isn't in any way a risk to anybody as well. Lessons already prevalent within antiquated society held a lot of these answers I believe.
@@jimclark6256 DC A Askew named Sutcliffe as the guilty party and was ignored because he wasn't from the North East. Sutcliffe was interviewed 9 times.
This Is Personal: The Hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper (2000) - 7.6 This is a dramatisation of the real-life investigation into the notorious Yorkshire Ripper murders of the late 1970s, showing the effect that it had on the health and career of Assistant Chief Constable George Oldfield who led the enquiry.
There was huge egos and arrogance at play with the police instead of coming together and catching that beast quicker. Their misogyny was appalling. No woman deserved what those poor women suffered regardless of profession. They were all innocent victims of an appalling crime.
I don't believe once that his wife didn't know what he was up to. Every time there was a ripper murder he was out of the house. She also knew he was questioned many times before he was caught.
Perhaps she trusted him enough, not to bother putting 2 and 2 together?? It's not a normal thing to be suspicious of your spouse after all... Suppose it was your husband being questioned... would you *_really_* be ready to believe the worst of the worst about him??? Or what if it was your mother being persistently questioned? Maybe that's a more touching question... Were it me, I'd be *very* offended, and want police out of the way. You'd understand this if you were already trusting though.
They got the wife characterization very wrong. She was far from a quiet little mouse: 'Her relationship with her husband was later characterised by the writer Gordon Burn as domineering, with Sonia willing to slap him down "like a naughty schoolboy". Barbara Jones, a journalist who had many conversations with Sonia, described her as "the most irritating, strangest and coldest person I've ever met. She's so incredibly prickly and demanding' -- Wiki
Thank you for this noteworthy & compelling story Joseph. I recently finished the mini series on the ripper on STAN. It too is outstanding, however the production values in this movie wins hands down for me. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Amazing how men's egos can get in the way of catching a murderer. One officer tried to bring his name up twice years earlier and was promptly shut down as insignificant, low man on the totem pole. They interviewed the guy 9 times!!!
The portrayal of Detective Oldfield here could not be further away than the one in The Long Shadow. This is a lot more sympathetic towards him, and goes against every documentary and other dramatisations where he was more convinced about the wearside connection than anyone else.
I wonder how the person who sent in the letters and tapes felt once he saw the massive chain of events they set in motion and the massive campaign that was literally everywhere with their voice and handwriting ? 😮
Is that the real tape message? Or a very, very good imitation? It makes the hairs stand up on your neck like the original even when you know it’s a hoax.
@@user-sc3ts6lf8rI'm not sure about you, but being treated...harsh... isn't exactly a way to motivate staff to engage productively. They need to be treated kindly, be metaphorically driven to work step by step by step with you driving them, maintained whilst on the task, and know where they're being led very clearly and concisely. And then given appreciation after every task is completed. Any and all "repairs" need be addressed methodically and sympathetically at the earliest opportunity. Some methods are progressive for a good reason.
Joseph you have spoiled us with a magnificent piece of uninterrupted and complete great British drama. Thank you so much ❣️
Thank YOU! Eileen from Chicago ❤🎉😮
Thanks for this brillant I saw it before but it's so well after great actors actresses no. Artifice just real acting I could watch it more than once they just don't make them like this anymore
Nice to have you back Joseph, it's been awhile my friend.Rex is fine keeping me fit.
I've seen this before a few years back and it's well worth a second viewing which will be tonight and as usual will raise a glass to you.Take care my friend kind regards from the Midi Pyrénées to you and all fellow Subscribers.🥂
Hello David! Cela fait un bail. Hope that you are well and having a good time in France and I hear Our friend REX is keeping you fit. We are having a late summer in Algiers. I pray for a cooler weather. A foggy cold weather Is most welcome... Bises d Alger
@@naceranacera5841 Hello Nacera lovely hearing from you again. Like you it's been a hot October low to mid 30's here. Yes Rex is in great form enjoying life. It's good having Joseph back I've missed his uploads. Enjoy your day Nacera and thanks for your message. Bises d Aveyron 🥂
Hello David! I had to send a message wishing you a"Merry Chrismas"to you and all your loved ones! Last but not least a big cuddle to REX. C est le seul moyen, a Travers Joseph's cha nnel! Porte vous bien. Bises d Alger
@@naceranacera5841 Hello Nacera thank you so much for your message it was very kind of you, I hope you're Christmas was a good one. My apologies for the late reply I've only just got back and seen your message. Je vous souhaite un trés bon année avec beaucoup de bonheur santés. Bises d'Aveyron 🥂
I love anything British ❤❤ thankyou Joseph you've dint yet again 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Excellent film......I would have liked a better outcome for George and his hard work...retirement then death he deserved better. Sad
George Oldfield was an arrogant prejudiced fool. The fact that the lot of them believed prostitutes deserved what they got and that ‘innocent girls’ were dragged into it was despicable. Watch ‘The Long Shadow’ a 2023 ITV drama series, it redresses the balance very well.
This series showed Oldfield in a sympathetic light, but in reality he himself made bad calls along with the detectives under him and working with him. As good as this series was, "The Long Shadow" gives a more realistic viewpoint.
Oldfield was the wrong officer for the enquiry. 1977, flying high on the success of the unlawful conviction of Judith Ward for the M62 coach bombing, Gregory obviously thought he was the man for the situation ! Huge mistake, as were numerous errors of judgement made by Oldfield, notably his absolute belief in the hoax tape from Sunderland. Cost more women their lives.
Oldfield was not the man for the Ripper enquiry. Thought he knew better since in 1977 he was flying high from the conviction of Judith Ward for the M62 coach bombing (quoshed after Oldfield's death, himself being severely criticised by the judge for keeping evidence from the defense). Bad decisions were made. The abandon of the type enquiry, the 5 pound note lead, and of course the belief in the Wearside hoaxer. Cost the lives of more women.
Well unfortunately real life is just that
Real
an excellent drama, many thanks for the upload. I have always highly rated Alun Armstrong, and the other actors played their parts well too. Such tragic loss of lives, unspeakable evil and many families left heart broken and destroyed. Yes, sad that George did not get to enjoy many happy years of retirement.
Thanks Joseph!
Since this drama was aired the man who sent the tapes to George has been caught. I'm not sure exactly when; however; he was arrested & spent some time in jail. Quite rightly so. He undoubtedly gave the Ripper the opportunity to murder more women.
Thank You Joseph ❤
John Humble was arrested in 2005, served 4 years of an 8 year sentence and died in 2019
@@thenewmodfather Thank you 😊
In a cold case review they decided to retest the envelopes used to send the tapes. Since it was many years later and advancements such as The national DNA Offender database was now available they had a potential new avenue to investigate.
Turns out John Humble had been arrested in the years after the hoax and had subsequently given a DNA swab.
All because one attention seeking idiot wanted to toy with the police, an entire investigation shifted away from their prime suspect and moved to a completely wrong area of the country. Thus it was reflected in his sentence that even though he never intended for people to get hurt, his actions meant that they did and a golden opportunity to save lives and catch a serial killer was missed.
Outstanding , thank you for a well spent time keeping me engrossed in such a fine accounting of a horrendess time in history
Thank you very much for uploading this. What a fantastic drama and the acting was exceptional. I remember it all so very well, especially the 'Geordie' who turned out to be a hoax. Had they found him, they should have put him away for life too because he was responsible for further murders, having thrown the police off the trail. Thanks again!!
They did find him in 2005, one of the junior detectives who had worked the case in the 70s became the chief inspector for West Yorkshire, and he reopened the cold case. They examined the letters for DNA, and found a match to a man who’d been arrested in the 2000s for a drunk and disorderly charge. He got sent to prison for eight years, and I believe he died behind bars.
If you enjoyed this film, The Long Shadow from ITV is also excellent!
Brilliant drama, Armstrong was always a magnificent actor, and he’s at his best here. The incompetence of the police though truly staggering
Thank you very much.
Excellent.
Superb drama - so tragic - and interesting to contrast with the present drama on the same subject being shown on ITV.
I found this after I’d started to watch the drama series, which somehow they’d very cleverly made really boring despite the terrifying subject. This is excellent, not over or under dramatic and an excellent cast
Looking forward to seeing this,thanks from nz.
Brillant 🌞
I couldn’t even watch this after hearing them say for the hundredth time how shocking it was that the YR had started killing ‘innocent girls’ because they weren’t prostitutes. I’d recommend everyone watch the 2023 ITV drama series called ‘The Long Shadow’. It seeks to redress the balance after 50 years of rubbishing the victims for how they earned their money.
Thanks Joseph
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 I didn't know what I wanted to watch this weekend...and came across this delightful gem...I remember this happening back in the day!😢😢
Did he really just say that ? Is he going for innocent women now ?, my god ! This is absolutely fantastic. Far superior thanThe long Shadow on ITV recently.
The long shadow was brilliant
@@Mike20216 Long Shadow was also really good but still not as accurate as this one. The Long Shadow changed some events like turning one of the victims, Yvonne Pearson into the fictional character of Donna DeAngelo. Then how they also completely missed the attack on Theresa Sykes which was so well done in this one at 2:28:55
The Yorkshire ripper fiasco caused by the ineptitude of our police force was one of the main reasons I moved away from Yorkshire in the mid 70's. Those poor women and their families.
No doubt you would have done better…..
@@gweilospur5877I could certainly address matters *significantly* better than my local constabulary.
Primarily, because I don't believe that human beings possess the immutable gift of being able to fairly pass judgment on *_other_* human beings.
Police may serve a better purpose by integrating immunity against the possibility of criminal activity occurring, before it starts.
For those enthusiastic about the idea of nullifying the possibility of crime - such as myself - I'd happily do this for free (entirely at my own leisure of course).
I have several other mechanisms that can be resorted to to establish near perfect justice as possible on Earth, that isn't in any way a risk to anybody as well.
Lessons already prevalent within antiquated society held a lot of these answers I believe.
Out of tens and tens of thousand men who would you have picked as the murderer?
@@jimclark6256 ignorance is no excuse to decide to begin judging other people.
@@jimclark6256 DC A Askew named Sutcliffe as the guilty party and was ignored because he wasn't from the North East. Sutcliffe was interviewed 9 times.
This Is Personal: The Hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper (2000) - 7.6
This is a dramatisation of the real-life investigation into the notorious Yorkshire Ripper murders of the late 1970s, showing the effect that it had on the health and career of Assistant Chief Constable George Oldfield who led the enquiry.
Merci Joseph! A good surprise... Very much appreciated. Bises d Alger
All of the main characters, except the ex wife, are now dead. COVID killed Sutcliffe -- the only good thing it ever did.
Oh my : how have I not been aware of this before now?
Great cast .
Thanks for sharing another fabulous watch as usual, Joseph .
Much appreciated.
This was excellent viewing - thanks for posting it
I believe this is the better than the one I had years ago on VHS, as always *Thank You*
There was huge egos and arrogance at play with the police instead of coming together and catching that beast quicker. Their misogyny was appalling. No woman deserved what those poor women suffered regardless of profession. They were all innocent victims of an appalling crime.
I don't believe once that his wife didn't know what he was up to. Every time there was a ripper murder he was out of the house. She also knew he was questioned many times before he was caught.
Perhaps she trusted him enough, not to bother putting 2 and 2 together??
It's not a normal thing to be suspicious of your spouse after all...
Suppose it was your husband being questioned... would you *_really_* be ready to believe the worst of the worst about him???
Or what if it was your mother being persistently questioned? Maybe that's a more touching question...
Were it me, I'd be *very* offended, and want police out of the way.
You'd understand this if you were already trusting though.
They got the wife characterization very wrong. She was far from a quiet little mouse: 'Her relationship with her husband was later characterised by the writer Gordon Burn as domineering, with Sonia willing to slap him down "like a naughty schoolboy". Barbara Jones, a journalist who had many conversations with Sonia, described her as "the most irritating, strangest and coldest person I've ever met. She's so incredibly prickly and demanding' -- Wiki
This was excellent. Thank you for the upload.
Excellent !!!
4th January 1981 Wow, that's spooky, the day after I was born.
Thank you for this noteworthy & compelling story Joseph. I recently finished the mini series on the ripper on STAN. It too is outstanding, however the production values in this movie wins hands down for me. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Well that was excellent. Not seen this before.
Amazing how men's egos can get in the way of catching a murderer. One officer tried to bring his name up twice years earlier and was promptly shut down as insignificant, low man on the totem pole. They interviewed the guy 9 times!!!
Great drama! Thank you for uploading this.
George was too concerned with personal glory.
Thank you. That was excellent!
Gosh! That was fantastic, thank you so much !
Disrespect to those poor women who died pre 1977.....😢
They we're all innocent
thank you again!,,, 😊
The portrayal of Detective Oldfield here could not be further away than the one in The Long Shadow. This is a lot more sympathetic towards him, and goes against every documentary and other dramatisations where he was more convinced about the wearside connection than anyone else.
Agree
Thought The Long Shadow was crap
It wasn't old field his superiors took the steps regarding the tape and letters they made oldfield a scapegoat
I feel bad for Dennis, this case ate him alive. George, seemed to only care about the ladies who weren't prostitute.
In 2005, John Samuel Humble was charged with being the hoaxer.
Poor George. Not fair.
That was intense. Catching flies. Amazing.
I wonder how the person who sent in the letters and tapes felt once he saw the massive chain of events they set in motion and the massive campaign that was literally everywhere with their voice and handwriting ? 😮
Super
Is that the real tape message? Or a very, very good imitation? It makes the hairs stand up on your neck like the original even when you know it’s a hoax.
Definitely real
I remember as a kid there was a number you could call to hear the message
Gregory was vomit worthy. Especially the 40 000 pounds he was given to sell his story to the news papers.
Girls aloud Kimberley Walsh playing oldfeilds daughter
I agree with the last comment, because it's so true
.....well don't just stand there..... can you imagine in today's world a manager shouting like that at their staff😂😂😂
@@user-sc3ts6lf8r absolutely correct.
@@user-sc3ts6lf8rI'm not sure about you, but being treated...harsh... isn't exactly a way to motivate staff to engage productively.
They need to be treated kindly, be metaphorically driven to work step by step by step with you driving them, maintained whilst on the task, and know where they're being led very clearly and concisely.
And then given appreciation after every task is completed.
Any and all "repairs" need be addressed methodically and sympathetically at the earliest opportunity.
Some methods are progressive for a good reason.
Man, I feel like I've got emphysema just from watching all those police smoke so much.