ORISA is finally nerfed | Overwatch 2 - Season 10 HOTFIX Patch
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
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Very short hotfix patch to beat the dead horse... mid season patch lookin like ~May 14 with more significant changes if I had to guess. Have fun in the horseless ranked games!!!
To those wondering why this dude mentioned the Mythbusters when it's not even out, it's coming very soon.
Didn't orisa get buffed before?
The dps passive increase is actually an awful change
I've seen a lot more Mauga in my games now 🥲
I might be in the minority here, but LFG (looking for group) really needs to come back
I stand with you
I think they said people didnt use it so they wouldnt put effort into adding it :(
Something lame like thay
People who created LFG's were looking for very specific hero profiles and kicking anyone that didn't have profiles that met their standards, so it would take forever to get a group together that would meet the leader's standards. Eventually this became such a gatekeeper lobby that it wasn't worth the time or effort. I wasted hours of time trying to use the feature. Eventually I gave up and never used it again. I'm sure others had the same experience as it was practically unused in the last few years of OW1.
The official Overwatch 2 discord server has a built in LFG service! And it's very active! Only problem is that almost everyone is diamond or lower so its basically impossible to LFG for masters or higher players.
@@riggler2 i used it a lot to 5 stack in competitive back in the day, i thought it was really fun and a lot better atleast on controller since nobody ever used their mic in solo queue. Now that i play on pc i probably would never use it since most games even in lower ranks people have mics.
I think the issue with Orisa is she does insane damage while being nearly indestructible. She's too much of a turret. Similar with Mauga, when you can't kill him it's too much. Hog almost gets to that territory, but none of the other tanks do. Normally, there is a trade off for going "defensive"; like Ramatra blocking, or Rein holding up a shield. Not with Orisa though! She's the horse from hell!
Roadhogs damage reduction only applies when he's huffing gas and doesn't linger like it did in Original Overwatch.
Well hog can't attack you while healing, so there is your trade off
You aren't supposed to shoot the horse.
You shoot the backline.
Orisa is nothing without her backline.
Orisa was easy to counter even before these buffs, now it's child's play.
Mauga is falling by just farting at him. What makes him unkillable is a Mercy on him
2:00 wdym you put it in the mythbuster? The video didn't come out did it?
There was an issue with the release of it, but it will hopefully come out soon. It's definitely finished.
Lmao that doom V venture thing happened to me and they FLEW into the river on Rialto
Ok but why the fuck are they reverting/buffing the healing reduction again...?
Who on earth asked for this LOL back to Tracer meta even though she never really left.
because it never should have been nerfed in the first place. Heck, i still dont think its strong enough. Healing should be restorative, not something you can use to blunt force your way through damage. Cut the duration down to .75 seconds, but up the effect to 40%.
@@jackmcmorrow9397 In proper positioning, this would work in technicality. But you have to realize that the majority of players do not play with every fascet of game sense in mind which leads to greater damage taken. In that instance, supports are now only healing to which the complaint of heal botting is prevalent, especially so if you push the decrease beyond 20%. The goal is to make supports have play potential while actively contributing resources for the team; so abusing this passive would only destroy the role's purpose and player enjoyment.
@@jackmcmorrow9397 It should have been nerfed because you literally could do nothing as a support in certain situations. What's the point of having heals if DPS with focus fire and a consistent finish (i.e Tracer, Soldier, Sojourn) just mean your entire kit is useless? I agree heals need to balanced, but then address the individual heroes not re-address an issue that affects everyone horridly (And yes everyone, because Tanks/DPS will be quick to say support diff when its really just the DPS passive overstepping).
@@funkycrawler619 Keep the healing strong, but make it only majorly effective when you're NOT being shot. Thats how every other hero shooter does it. Healing is not meant to be a second form of tanking.
It is zero fun to empty a whole mag into someone being pockets by a mercy or a moira, and have your shots do basically fuck all.
As an Ori main myself, not too bothered by the changes other than slowing down when fortified but I would have to play around with it more. My main issue with the slow down boils down to how it makes her immune to slow downs so slowing down to resist slows is kinda weird.
I believe the idea is she's supposed to be a turtle tank, not being speed boosted into backlines with 50% damage reduction, no crit, and immune to CC
It’s not just immune to slows, it’s immunity to all CC. Giving her the slow is fair given how strong the ability is, and it makes since because at the cost of movement speed, you’re granted extremely high damage resist and the ability to not be moved by other players
now youre like us rein players
as an ori man as yourself, you arent allowed an opinion
@@coldplaysgames6695i dont think shes immune to sombras hack which is kinda a cc
Im glad orisa is nerfed (maybe more nerfs) but tbh I'd rather the dps passive be 15% than 20%. Yes a big surprise but I believe 20% is first too large and second is making it way too easy to apply a significant debuff for hero's like bastion , tracer , sombra and etc.
Thanks for these clear videos man.
personally, i think doom/orisa launching venture away at mach speed was hilarious and wish it wasn't removed
The non leader reque was one of the best things because my friends haven't even seen it.
I hope Orisa wasn’t the only thing holding Mauga back🙏🏿. I prefer an Orisa metah much more than a Mauga one tbh
DPS passive buff will make mauga worse
You can sleep a Mauga so easily but a Orisa can "dodge" a sleep dart even more easily.
How about just none of those 2? Orisa and mauga are such braindead and simple tanks, not fun for anyone in the lobby
@@MECAUT7 that is true but that doesn’t make it any more fun for me
Just a barrier in front of Mauga and he's completely useless. Hell, Zarya's his best counter rn.
Hey KarQ! Could you please share the with the custom game code you’re using to test new changes? Would appreciate that a lot!
R.I.P. Venture, you had a short life. Hello Tracer, with the damage passive buff 😍 😂
Actually, I just played Venture, and I can't tell the difference 🤣
@@KirbyGamingLive I’d say it just makes them less potent which is good, cause playing against them makes them feel untouchable
I’m sure you are much better than me. To me the damage difference from other dps was too big, and I couldn’t really give any meaningful impact anymore
What happened to the new avoid system? Still capped at 3 and have to manually remove.
What is the workshop code for that training mode with dps numbers?
Thanks for the info, Car
is the venture one shot combo gone now? not sure how the numbers add up, the shoot + drill dash + shoot + melee?
If it is venture becomes nearly useless
Should be 220-240 now
Which is still a high amount of dmg u can follow up on or have your team follow up
Still a good pick for the backline so i dont get the constant crying
Especially when yall complained about sig and junk one shots that been in the game for a long time 💀
@@hooparainbowbraceypkmonand7862Nope. Just means you don't solo everyone
How is shooting twice, an ability, and a melee a “one shot”? That’s like saying Ana has a 1 shot if she hits you 4 times.
@@aninterestinusername oneshot COMBO. I.e something you can perform in a very short period of time to kill someone that allows for basically no reaction
With the last one, i hope they fixed more than that cuz it happened to me vs an ashe. It was funny as hell and i did the longest dive ever cuz i went up instead of backwards
I get the venture ult nerf but why the dmg?
she had a one shot combo
The devs listen to silver players who can’t pay attention to their surroundings.
@@CZAR.6 even in diamond shes strong for a dps.
She can easily kill 2 healers with one combo
@@kinidude5661 How stupid it was to make a character with that combo after the Season 9 changes, so pointless is Ventura without it. It's a damage character (not a tank) with no ranged attacks.
Does this patch also remove the full season ban bug
I have a clip of me sending a venture flying with lucio. hopefully they fixed it with his boop as well
we smoking that Orisa pack tonight boys
Laughs in Roadhog
lol was that a final jab at Orisa there at the end? as a tank main i’m glad to see her nerfed 🤙🏽
Flex DPS can't have anything, if you have fun for more than 2 weeks, they get nerfed to the ground but Sojourn has been broken since release. Very fair.
Sojourn has been busted for so long has mobility borderline one shot a zoning tool for no reason and busted ultimate drawback………….ummmmmm….not Hitscan??
The only good flex dps is just Tracer
@@DaffyTaffy93i genuinely couldn’t tell at first if you were for or against sojourn, please use commas 😭
Venture is the stupidest character they've dropped, they deserved the nerfs. I would've preferred to see the removal of overshield and a bigger ult nerf instead of what we got but oh well
@@diablotry5154she’s literally really fun to play, fairly easy to counter if you play out her cool downs, and has a lot of heroes that counter her, she’s only good on some maps, it feels fairly balanced and really fun. Mauga and lifeweaver are way worse hero designs
Oh so that’s why I see a bunch of random 000000 in text chat at times.
By the way you can get the same bug to happen with sigma rock! happened to me while playing venture as well when i drill dash :)
Ive always thought fortify should slow you down a bit as a slight trade off, also she literally says grounding or digging in lol
Then the console big wasn’t fixed? Where the screen turns black around a character?
when will it be possible to change region with steam ?
Idk if I’m the only one. But I liked having the ability to requeue even when I wasn’t the party leader. So did my friends as well whenever I was party leader and needed to step away for a second after we played a game
ive been playing mirrorwatch so much I forgot about this game
Infinite dmg range needs to go for Orisa too
We had lore accurate doom punch for 2 weeks it was fun while it lasted😢😢
Pretty sure they also introduced a mercy hug lol, idk what Interaction caused it, but I was caused to just be sent flying into the air
Da support king is back baby he neva miss
They just killed Venture !!!
the Orisa nerfs are very tough but they make me so happy. maybe even rein has a chance now
Rein is never gonna have a chance until they give him significant buffs
@@sideeswipe over all yeah, but in the direct matchup against orisa now
Back to support nightmare gameplay 💀
Good
Tank*
Just stop healbotting like you should have the entire time
Oh PLEASE you guys have the easiest gameplay loop of any class.
I main lw and it is so frustrating
Love the Venture nerfs. Now instead of dumping every cooldown you have to get one kill and escape, you get to choose, dump all your cooldowns to get a kill OR escape. Literally just a much worse Reaper now.
WOOO BACK TO THE MAUGA META!!!
Orissa changing speed is massive
Well with orisa nerfed it's gonna be a mauga meta again. Yay...
it's a hog meta not mauga
@@kinidude5661 hog meta is mauga meta
@@kinidude5661 its just rock, paper scissors dude. blizzard doesnt know how to balance their game
The DPS passive being buffed should help with that, actually. For the majority of players, a reaper can decimate a Mauga, and has the chance to outplay hog if given support to survive through hook combo.
At least he and Hog are somewhat counterable. These are Orisa nerfs are long overdue
Dude the constants healing reduction sucks
I was hoping they'd revert the "no damage falloff" buff they gave her, but i guess this is fine.
Its funny the best and most fun matches i had recently were thoses matches were orisa wasnt used by both teams. Once orisa is picked u have to pick her too and thats so lame
DOWN WITH THE DEMON HORSE
They didn’t have to do Venture like that.
was having a blast with Venture, but I guess nothing lasts forever. will probs still otp them lol. they can't one-shot combo Tracer with direct primary + drill dash anymore though, which is sad. I really loved blending cocky Tracers who thought they were slick
still works with melee
@@alexjats4036 true, but the Tracer has more time to react and zip away
Still haven't added midtown to customs though 😒
bruh support felt ok when it was 15%. not dominate with heals but good enough :(. maybe 17.5% but why revert it
Hell yeah, The best genji workshop map is back
they should nerf hog's hook cd as well. im fine with 7 sec
where is the 1 venture tip for every hero karq please
Orisa the bane of my existence when Using ramantra
Bro... i encountered that doom/venture bug in game bout a week ago. Decided to report it and share the vod code.
Woke up the next day to a 2 week ban... thx blizzard
Press X to doubt.
Ok hear me out. The damage buff might be good bc it’s gonna prevent a mauga/hog meta which is good.
"0000000"
Me: Ooooohhhhhhh that explains it.
Nooooooo😭 ventures one shot😭
Ripbozo
thanks devs
RIP Ana
there are never enough Orisa nerfs!
Literally started using Orisa like 2 weeks ago and NOW they finally nerf her -_-
Great more genji needs I love life
they were confident to put Venture in comp right away. lmao
I was annoyed that they increased the dps passive, but I remembered that countering the ever living meta Pharah + Mercy would be much easier now.
thank god i did all the venture challenges before they nerfed her literally into the ground
w/ the dva change, i thought i was going crazy!!! Nobody talked about it 😭
Honestly the venture bug with doom was the funniest thing to have. But also see why people would hate it, feel like that bug should be implemented in the game but at a much smaller scale
Yeah, it's not enough nerfs for Orisa, now I'm revisiting the tier list (which I know I don't have to take as 100% true), but I still find it very curious how Orisa hasn't stepped into low B tiers for a long time (she in mid season 4 she was in B TIER), now she is still S tier or A tier, she needs and deserves EVEN more nerfs
This is already a colossal nerf tf you on about lol
Thank you for the no BS update! I felt the nerfs playing Orisa immediately - but were needed. Cheers
What about Sombra? She is literally a nightmare right now.
In my opinion the team working now on overwatch 2 is a bit better than the previous team because they try new things every time and don't leave the game in the same state for a long time what do you think?
Hog mains:ITS SHOW TIIIIIIME
bruh we are not getting mauga nerf before gta 6. thats stupid
I wish they gave Venture the ability to cancel using the ult
Do you mean like how lifeweaver can cancel before placing down tree and keep it or like how cass can cancel high noon but he still loses ult
It they do this, Pharah should be able to cancel her ult too
@@whrench2676 Like how Lifeweaver can press the button after tree is already out (so, its given the 150 burst already), and tree will disappear, using up the ult. Venture often gets stuck with 2 or 3 shots left when you really need to be able to shoot something airborne and it feels clunky at times.
Also, has anyone else noticed you fall faster during your ult as venture? I swear it feels like your gravity is increased during the ult.
@@fizzlock I absolutely agree, the Venture ult needs to be cancellable because as soon as an enemy registers you're using it, they get to high ground and you can't do anything but spam the ground until the ult is used up. Also I noticed that too, their gravity definitely increases at least a bit during the ult, maybe only during the activation of it but I'd personally want to test that further.
@@fizzlockYou're right! It is an intended mechanic for Venture to fast-fall, I'm pretty sure. Take a look at it in 3rd person view!
2 more weeks without nerf for Roadhog AND killing his counter? Damn that's gonna be rough
I honestly feel insane when i look at patch notes because isn’t the orisa “nerfs” literally just reverting her buffs? I feel insane when i watch these videos because its literally the exact same buffs and nerfs every time
Why is this a problem? This is a live service game, the balance shifts dynamically to variably meet player and dev expectations. There isn’t a perfect meta with every hero settled and they aren’t deluded by one, because new heroes will always upset it.
Good but maybe they should come back and finish ball rework and buff his damage
Cool.
When is Tracer gonna be nerfed?
Bro why they did not buff symm mei or even reaper
As someone who uses Orisa, I can live with that.
They did venture dirty ngl
Yeah Venture didn't need that double nerf. Maybe one nerf of them kit would of been fine but double is too much
Deserved but I wouldn't have nerfed what they did. I would have slightly changed the breakpoint so the one shot combo doesn't exist but then gotten rid of all of the overshield. Finally would've nerfed either the damage of the ult or the amount of charges.
That way venture wouldn't one shot, they wouldn't have insane survivability with everything else in their kit and their ult wouldn't be a gg team fight over button
If they buff healing reduction they should buff Lifeweavers healing speed cause he is not in a good state right now.
Nah he just got a heal buff and lw needs to stay bad because he is just not healthy for the game when he is good
Still no Junkrat Buff 😢
maybe a rework incoming
Hope never comes
Probably didn’t want to make any big changes. Just a quick nerf to save us from an Orisa meta, and a venture nerf since they’re fairly new.
Hell no keep junkrat in check he is already way too decent fir what he requires…
Amen, all my homies hate junkrat
Venture is a hero that’s going to be either really strong or obsolete, I really hope they didn’t overtune them. I don’t like the damage passive either. Just fix Mauga and Hog and have it stay at 15
Might as well remove Tank as a role now. Gg, see y'all in season 11.
Again increasing the healing reduction from the dps passive?
As a orisa main doesn't feel like it would faze the horse especially a really good one who knows how to really manage her abilities. Just bring back 6v6! It would make it so much better..
I wanna try ram and sig team as tank lol it sounds quirky to use 😂 together
Me as a orisa main, the nerf doesn't seem that bad, im ok with it never its funny how it feels like a tickle to me especially when a really good orisa can adjust her abilities in how to use them for each hero you face or target. Doesn't seem fazed by it. Been playing her since she was quote "Kinda bad" in overwatch 1 sometimes. *sigh* I miss 6v6 the most bringing that back 😢 I wanna try a Sigram tank team...it sounds quirky...
The zero's represent how much the game cares about her ping
I think that orisa only needed one of those nerfs tbh, this feels a bit harsh
Except orisa, awful changes.
As a doomfist main LET'S GO it's about time BABY
You're still going to get rolled by orisa lol the nerfs does not stop her from destroying doom
@@SpaceCowBoyRay I actually never have problems with her
@@SpaceCowBoyRaysad attempt to seem like you know what you’re talking about lol
@@ryukomatoi7277 sad attempt? Th se nerfs do not stop orisa from rolling a doomgost for free lol a nerf to the kit does not mean the counter pick does not exist so please don't try and act smart.
The dmg role passive was way too oppressive against support why would they revert it? 15% was perfect for taking a lot of the weight off lower healing supports shoulders now they’re gonna be unplayable again
remember when they made those changes to Orisa before and people got upset and wanted them to undo it. then they got made the Orisa was still too strong.
Why would they revert the DPS passive... there is no support right now that is standing out and tank players are on the verge of jumping off Lijiang tower.
Also the venture bug happens with wrecking ball if she dashes into him when he is on fire.
If Orisa nerfs are enough? They’re too much!
Orisa nerfs could have been harder. I don't ever wanna play or see this character again.