cLOUDDEAD: The Pioneers of Ambient Rap
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Three founders of the Anticon record label (Doseone, Why?, Odd Nosdam) formed a supergroup in the late 90s called cLOUDDEAD. While their musical output was brief, they made some of the weirdest, and most boundary pushing hip hop of the 00s.
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another influence from the 90's on cloud rap, and specially Clams Casino, is Boards of Canada
Aphex Twin
They have collabed many times
thx for putting me on to boards of canada
Glad to see this group finally being discussed in videos like this. Their ambient soundscapes and abstract rapping really were a sign of what was to come in the rap world.
damn holy shit dude your knowledge is deep
Your pfp is the best shit I've ever seen
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cLOUDDEAD is probably my favourite hip hop album of all time. So dream-like.
I feel like the 'physics of a bicycle, isn't it remarkable?' line is sort of talking about how as artists they have to continue to put out art, and as people they have to persevere, or else they'll fall into a rut, just like how when riding a bicycle you have to keep pedalling lest your bike falls over.
Nice take I love that line
I always "Physics of a Bicycle" was an optimist take on the line that occurs in their other songs "Physics of a Unicycle". The unicycle bit seemed to be existential angst about life and suicide: like you're forced to be on but falling off is bad too. "Physics of a Bicycle" occurs just in this one place, is performed in an optimistic, major key (unlike the very dark, minor keyed "Physics of a Unicycle") and seems to be jubilant about life.
Honestly I had no idea what the fuck it was about. I just thought it sounded great.
hell yea. Everything anticon did was amazing, I have no idea how they did it
Some of their live shows, especially Reaching Quiet's live shows were so unique and energetic it's a mystery how they're not more well known
Hell yeah, did you go to any of their shows yourself?
Odd Nodsam is a true master
Super interesting and insightful video, thanks so much. Everyone who was part of cLOUDDEAD was exceptional, but I feel like Nosdam really carried a huge amount of weight in the group and maybe doesn't get the credit he deserves. That guy is truly one-of-a-kind and hasn't stopped putting out amazing music for a single moment.
You need to sit with these albums a long time. Ten is a great album. It was, and still is, very intentional and it's mostly about venturing out into the unknown but from their experience. Listen to elephant eyelash and hero for fool. They still recall some of the clouddead lyrics and concepts.
Jimmy breeze 1 is the best song on the album
I'd argue Dead Dogs Two is the best song Clouddead ever did. The message (wanting/willing to be a subject of sympathy through some kind of disaster) and the contrast of witness/experiencing a disaster on a beautiful day is masterful.
definitely , beautiful track
“Ten” is fully loaded.
man growing up listening to clouddead and the boom of cloud rap in the early 2010's was the fucking wave. this was a great vid homie, keep it up.
god, i’m so glad someone made a video about these guys. they’re my favorite collective of all time and severely underrated.
Oh man, thank you for this video. Was obsessed with cLOUDDEAD and Anticon in general for years (speaking of, I am relatively certain that This About The City does have an underlying "secret meaning")
Anyway, I revisit their music relatively often, CLOUDEAD Greenthink, and Nosdam get the most replays.
This video was a great start to my day, thank you
so glad i found your channel, essays on the history of alternative hip hop is exactly what i need in my life
Their July 17th Peel session is worth checking out too! I loved listening to cLOUDDEAD growing up and the live material is interesting to me now for how it recontextualizes the individual segments within the sprawling collage of their self-titled.
Agree with you about Ten btw. It has its moments but completely lacks the album structure that made the ST incredible. Makes sense tho because of how they went into the songs for their debut as singles that each acted as a lil mini album.
cLOUDDEAD is my favorite album. I've been listening to it since I was a teenager.
I really disagree about Ten, I think that it's on par with and a perfect compliment to the selftitled. There's just some constant sense of the songs always being at the risk of disintegrating to something less structured that becomes an interesting tension.
It's fun to hear a different perspective. I grew up listening to these albums all the time. I definitely had a distinct love for the second one though. Good video man. I never would've expected one to make a video on a group that's still relatively obscure. made go back and listen. It's been a few years
Never forget the minnows have teeth in their throats and strawberry in an ostrich throat.
Thank you for doing this. This is a time capsule to my youth.
to me and my best friend in high school and still today... these dudes were the fucking beatles.
I think this is more like a precursor to cloud rap, it’s still pretty stylistically different even if it sounds “cloudy”. As far as I’m concerned the oldest song that sounds like what cloud rap would become is the Still Tippin chopped and screwed remix.
Early 2000's underground hip hop was the golden age
caught the debut album when it dropped. still feels fantastic.
thanks for this video,
Think the Jimmy Breeze ‘ringtone’ sound as you put it is sampled from a Gameboy game, possibly The Goonies if memory serves. Can also highly recommend Boom Bip and Doseone “Circle”
….GIN!!!!!!!!!😂
Mush Records were ahead of its time. I think if you like experimental Rap checkout Consolidated, Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy, Beatnigs, and Mark Stewart.
I think Rhymesayers is great as well.
Antipop Consortium was great too and the Shapeshifters
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Dude I listened to their first album again after years, it has not aged a single bit
Men your so underrated
I'm happy people are finally talking about all these underground legends
BoC is my fav group ever. And Clouddead took the next step of rapping on Boards of Canada tracks
I’m glad you specified at the end because at first I thought you were talking about Blue Oyster Cult 😂
@@ZaZaZoo22 when you say you love BOC you mean Blue Oyster Cult. I mean Boards of Canada. We are not the same.
Good shit bruv
Nice to see notwist in the mix fun facts. It's insane to me how good this band was and how little they're known still. You did an amazing job breaking them down. Ten was something put out because they were under contract and it was likely a hectic time for them as artists
Best hip hop album of all time.
Bravo my man, you know what's up. How do I like twice (three times) btw more friend please
Just to add, Ten was made due to contractual agreement, which is why the songs were mostly made separately and not as a group. Although I'd say the teen keen skip is amazing! wtf
Kudos on doing your homework here.
I have to share my two cents: Ten is more accessible production-wise, and the structures are more straight forward than the s/t, which by no means takes away the sheer creativity and willingness to experiment with the sound and lyrics. S/T is more atmospheric and ambient, and the lo-fi feel sometimes makes it harder to absorb to some.
cLOUDDEAD (the band) is most certainly, the most creative thing related to hip hop that has seen the light of day. I have to mention Subtle, that's a bit different animal but maybe even more creative in a way since it moves away from hip hop in many directions but sometimes tries to do too much at the same moment, if that makes sense. (just my opinion, but I still immensely enjoyed Subtle work). This collective, or whatever you want to call it, was far beyond its time and is an acquired listen, definitely, but you must be willing to explore. Criminally underappreciated as well.
And no, I don't think they're "cloudrap", they stand in their own "genre" shoes.
Amazing music I still love.
can u plz rank nickelback albums they go dummy hard........... but nah all seriousness great video, this channel never misses
The Dynospectrum is very deep puddle esque on Rhymesayers
I got this as a gift on vinyl from my best friend and is easily one of the best presents I’ve gotten
Bro dose one is from deep puddle dynamics, greenthink, clouddead, themselves 13 and god and subtle, as well as all his features and solo albums.
This is cool and all but where's the discord server yo?
I don’t rly use discord much tbh, but if y’all would b into a discord server I’d be down to make one
@@108Mics i'd very much be a part of this yes
@@108Mics Yeah mate, surely you will like.
On Sound of a Handshake “We Want To Break You” doesn’t mean something sinister. Breaking an artist is a common phrase.
They seem real influenced by groups like The Pharcyde (Runnin’, Splattitorium) and Bone Thugs (1st of the month)
Freestyle Fellowship
1:28 my brain during any test
To call Ten unambitious and more confused than the s/t is fucking bonkers.
ive been saying that clouddead and dpd are ripe for breakdown videos. just got my 3x lp of clouddead in. i spent more than i should have on it ,but im just glad to own it.
I didn't know this band but something sounded so fucking familiar about it. Turns out one of my favourite indie/post-rockish album features those guys: HOOD - COLD HOUSE, you know about them?
Also I think there is a big influence from AR Kane perhaps... I think they only ''kind of rapped'' on a handful of track tho.
Love
One of my favorite Dose One songs is “That Ol Pagan Shit” produced by J Rawls off of his first album Hemispheres. Beautiful work of art
They pioneered the cloud rap microgenre.
Something I’m disappointed you didn’t talk about was hymies basement, IMO it’s my favorite anticon album and very experimental and abstract, combined with incredible lyrics.
I’d love for you to get into surge, which is pretty much the next step forward from cloud rap which features bit crushed vocals/instrumentals. I’d recommend listening to fax gang who is my personal favorite surge artist.
I’m still salty that you shoved surge into the tread video and gave it barely any thought, if you ever have free time then go on SoundCloud. Look for someone else’s surge playlist and leave it on shuffle for an hour. Insane amounts of obscure music to be found
I’ve actually explored surge a fair bit since making the tread vid and plan on covering it more in the future 💯💯
108 Mics loooooking forward to it.
He did it
your criticisms of ten are exactly how i feel about the self titled - the compilation has some amazing moments and definitely better writing, but ten for me is just a more cohesive, straightforward, enjoyable listen. i feel like ten is the natural progression of the group - a bit less scattered, more focused, etc.
except for son of a gun, the ending is great but the first three minutes feels unbearable at times
Also did you pick up on the ‘reversed’ lyrics which actually were recorded by them learning what words sound like when played backwards and then reversing that so it sounds like actual English but spoken weirdly?
random, but do you think you could do a vid on Five Finger Posse? they had a really great project this year
I talked about FFP pretty thoroughly in my video about Tread and I liked their new album a lot too!
cLOUDEAD are hardly known but they have always stayed with me. This video needed more music and your mic is to loud . Would have had a lot more feel about the actual subject. Good knowledge tho i didn't know about some of the other guys
nice documentary.
just wanted to say, wile considering the album Ten' there are several factors, that you seem to miss.
why? does and nosdam had progressed as artists, and produced sounds, and ideas infused with the music, musicians, places and cultures, they had interacted with over the years, propelling them to new things.
its hard to return to passed times as an artist. to recapture, what made the moment special.
I myself love Ten'; I see it as a self aware, farewell-love letter, to there humble beginnings.
'sometimes I Feeeel Like.... ima spoooooof... of what I useD to Be'
almost the perfect mix of getting the feeling of clouddead and at the same time giving us something new.
maybe a good analogy is this.
cLOUDDEAD = Evil Dead
Ten = Evil Dead II
much love to anticon, inspirational to say the least.
SUNSET IS AN ALL DAY PROCESS, SUNSET IS AN ALL DAY PROCESS
I know this this is a bit off topic, but do you think you'll cover Viper's post 2010 Albums (The serious ones of course)? 5-9 Piru Music has some really hidden gems. I really love Blood from This Blood in particular. Your video actually made me look more into Viper and there's a bunch of songs that are on my playlist.
Edit: I live in Houston, Texas. Hopefully I can meet Viper one day and do an interview or convince him to do live performances again. I feel like if people see how talented he is when he's serious, he could seriously make a resurgence considering he's older now. He's one of the few people where I only listened to his weird titled songs for giggles and actually being really nice to listen to and be put on my playlist.
doseone from EVERYTHING hahah just cause he’s got 8000 groups
Eyedea also worked on deep puddle dynamics
RIP Eyedea & Alias
i really wanna listen to that greenthink album. have you listened to it?
Buck 65 / Sebutones & Project Blowed (Omid Beneathe The Surface compilation) the Shapeshifters
love your vids man!
Odd Nosdam's album Burners is also pretty good. Very drony and fuzzy instrumental hip hop
Dose one has 4 albums since anticon.. but sure he does also make money making game music, each album is better than the last.
I'm so glad I found anticon.
So I counted 1-6 as the original 10”
7. Peel Session
8. Sound of a Handshake
9 Dead Dogs Two 12”
10. Ten
spaceghostpurpp video when?
I’m pretty sure Doseone has done more Video Game soundtracks then Odd Nosdam
Great content man
I used to go to their shows and buy the vinyl. The vinyl had all the lyrics including the ones you’re missing. They were classified as Avant Garde Hip-Hop and by the haters they referred to it as white rap because I guess black and brown people didn’t enjoy it according to them. 😂 Their second album that featured the sound of a handshake was great too.
Shocking Lemon - Solvent Echo (2007, their last album)
WINO - Dirge no. 9 (2001, many OASIS vibes)
both japanese bands
Yo it would be awesome to get your take on rapper Koran Streets. Dudes for the most part pretty unknown, yet i really dig some of his work. Thought it would be interesting to get your opinion!
i been saying the s/t was my favorite album for years and years and years
6:46 And they have a collab together too. I'm left speechless.
Underrated af
We need to pick an artist to break. We want to break you!! W- We want to break you!! W-W-We want to break you!!”
Yo this is off topic but you should make a video on the short lived kawaii rap era of SoundCloud in 2015-2016 with artist like trassh anime girl and yung bruh
Ugh now my little brother will know about them
7:43 album name?
random but do you like cartier god?
I'm a big RCB fan and I liked that VaporDrip tape from earlier this year. That song he did with Bladee is fire too
@@108Mics nice, i went back to check his old youtube videos and every time i respect him more and more
Yo, check out Sematary, BloodHounds, SlowSilver03, and Nova Gang.
are you into jewelxxet mr. mics?
My one question about this album is, why the hell were the vocals mixed so low? Can barely hear anything intelligible enough to make out clearly for like the whole damn thing. Makes this whole project feel like Cloud Rap Intros: The Album
Surprised u haven’t talked ab bones yet. I see him as the guy who perfected this genre
Love you xoxo
Why? is the band. His name is Yoni Wolf.
Why? is the name of the rapper, he then went on to form a band called Why?
12:39 Hey 108 Mics, very recently someone got lyrics of this song on Genius. Just saying, maybe read it.
0:27 Who's the artist he's describing here?
Black Kray (aka sickboyrari)
@@108Mics thanks!
@@108Mics Any projects or songs for someone trying to get into them?
@@squarenoize1 LUH 4REN and CODEINE TEARS IN HER FANTA are some good tracks to start with
SQUARE NOIZE Crack Cloud$ Over Arts Kitchen, Ice Cream & MAC 10s, and 700 Dagreez r some of my favorite modern experimental rap projects. Working Out Da Mud is solid too
I heard yoni was rapping for money back then….
Has anyone listen to lil b album internet legend the MySpace messiah
I always thought they sounded like Bone Thugs on acid
Yall browse /mu/ or...
y u bully bladee?
It’s all in good fun 💎💎💎
Tangentially related but here’s a video with baille parker ruclips.net/video/9XAdI1fsuUg/видео.html
JimmyBreeze 1 and 2 are about a suicide of one of Yoni's friends, actually. Great video though!
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startervisions tl;dr
@@kmcorrea5805 derr durrr
13:13 “...he explains the tolerance he’s built up after being made fun of as a kid.” What? He clearly describes surviving a 4-story fall wearing a space suit. Is video a troll?
When you don’t connect your interpretations, apparently unrelated to the actual lyrics, to the text, you’re not describing the song, you’re forcing off-topic non sequiturs into your summary of an album.
This video is really haphazard, awkward, annoying, disjointed, and confused.
I get this is a running gag of the video, and it doesn’t connect. People really do just make up their own meanings for lyrics, and at times you’re earnestly trying to decode the songwriting, so it’s never really obvious when it’s a joke.
😂😂
These guys are cool bjt i dont think theyre the first to come up with cloud rap. Check Restiform Bodies