Ben 10’s Secret Identity Makes No Sense

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  • @Aimez-da-Llama
    @Aimez-da-Llama 3 года назад +3663

    Ben's secret identity stays intact for so long in this series because it's too dark for anyone to see him

  • @dragonicdoom3772
    @dragonicdoom3772 3 года назад +806

    I think Kevin's reputation is less "oh wow he's so popular" and more like "you mess with his car you're a dead man".

    • @kaiseremotion854
      @kaiseremotion854 3 года назад +49

      more of a john wick

    • @cosmicdoggo9296
      @cosmicdoggo9296 2 года назад +25

      After a wile i just found him annoying all bark only to get his ass kicked ewery other episode he is pretty much Vegeta of Ben 10

    • @autobotkirby1up
      @autobotkirby1up 2 года назад +32

      @@cosmicdoggo9296 ehh I'd say Kevin is basicly the piccolo of ben 10 with a bit of yamcha added for flavor.
      his power is on par with the main character in the original series,is more or less labeled a rival character with a deep hatred of main character in original series,despite his previously stated intent to kill, he ends up siding with good guys team in the sequel series early on, shares romantic feelings (and arguments) towards leading lady returning from the original series (though unlike yamcha & bulma Kevin & gwen end up staying a couple and their romance didn't start till alien force) starts losing more and more of his fights as the series goes on, eventually fades into the background becoming a more of a supporting character that occasionally shows up to help and has had his car destroyed.

    • @cosmicdoggo9296
      @cosmicdoggo9296 2 года назад +3

      @@autobotkirby1up yup

    • @sunsetvibe1063
      @sunsetvibe1063 11 месяцев назад +5

      Also, I thought Ben met Kevin in New York. So, Kevin lived in Bellwood & ran away to NYC just so he could coincidently meet a kid from Bellwood with powers.

  • @peronafanman
    @peronafanman 3 года назад +1280

    I love how Ben literally wears the most noticable clothes ever and has the Omnitrix just out on his wrist and then gets surprised when his identity is revealed at the beginning of Ultimate Alien🤣

    • @peronafanman
      @peronafanman 3 года назад +17

      @@burner555 Oh shit let me edit that.

    • @rileyackison4495
      @rileyackison4495 3 года назад +27

      @@peronafanman now I’m curious what it said before.

    • @peronafanman
      @peronafanman 3 года назад +42

      @@rileyackison4495 "the end of Ultimate Alien". I changed it to "the beginning of Ultimate Alien"

    • @talphazero1036
      @talphazero1036 3 года назад +20

      Be honest, that's definitely not the weirdest cartoon logic you've seen, or even Ben Ten logic for that matter...

    • @peronafanman
      @peronafanman 3 года назад +14

      @@talphazero1036 yeah you're right, there are dumber things in cartoons.

  • @VaultN95
    @VaultN95 3 года назад +1011

    Don't worry, some Celestialsapien has been watching Ben 10 on his TV and he really liked Ben so he erased the memories of those who found out about his secret identity when they were shown. He's a real bro.

    • @ImADeity
      @ImADeity 3 года назад +110

      Protecting his own, that's what I'm talking about

    • @skibot9974
      @skibot9974 3 года назад +60

      wonder why he didnt help Ben again in Ultimate Alien

    • @zyella277
      @zyella277 3 года назад +128

      @@skibot9974 maybe he was tired of doing it? like oh come on you got your secret idenity found again? Thats it im done.

    • @ImADeity
      @ImADeity 3 года назад +54

      @@skibot9974 shake things up

    • @Goat10Solos
      @Goat10Solos 3 года назад +45

      Bruh.Celestialsapiens watching their own show on TV.

  • @HiperPivociarz
    @HiperPivociarz 3 года назад +1309

    I know it's a little unrealistic, but to me it seemed that people in Bellwood who knew Ben was Ben 10 chose to keep it a secret to protect him out of respect, the same way the people in the train in Spider-man 2 never told anyone they saw Spider-man without his mask. There were videos recorded of Ben fighting aliens, we know that because Jimmy's reveal video uses that footage, but I think the implication is they were obscure and circled the dark web or whatever it's called, instead of being out in the open, until Jimmy happened.

    • @brandonhowell5096
      @brandonhowell5096 3 года назад +121

      I agree with this I mean in all the years ben had the onmitrix before having it removed its likely been blew his cover in his hometown for the most part.

    • @DamianQualshy
      @DamianQualshy 3 года назад +29

      Okay but why would they do that? Sure he defeated Vilgax once, but anything else? He didn't do anything, especially for Bellwood.

    • @najarintheoverowrldermuge6568
      @najarintheoverowrldermuge6568 3 года назад +135

      @@DamianQualshy in the first episode he stops the DNAliens from destroying a hospital? And then the police with the weather controller. And Micheal Morningstar predatory behavior of teenage girls

    • @mohammadqasimawais9155
      @mohammadqasimawais9155 3 года назад +86

      @@DamianQualshy What about the multiple supernatural and alien threats that showed up there in Omniverse flashbacks?

    • @kahboom76
      @kahboom76 3 года назад +41

      I actually thought that was the case. But I mean we didn’t know the gap between Classic and Alien Force so it’s possible there were unknown threats in Bellwood

  • @safiyypro5467
    @safiyypro5467 3 года назад +514

    Cash: *Pushes Kevin’s Car off a cliff*
    Everyone: that wasn’t very “cash” of you

    • @phamngocson638
      @phamngocson638 3 года назад +9

      Nice joke

    • @basilprasad2837
      @basilprasad2837 3 года назад +4

      I don't get it.

    • @mr.redguard6702
      @mr.redguard6702 3 года назад +15

      @@basilprasad2837 Cash=Money
      Car=Expensive
      Get it now?

    • @basilprasad2837
      @basilprasad2837 3 года назад +3

      @@mr.redguard6702 ah thanks now I get it.

    • @LucyWest370
      @LucyWest370 3 года назад +18

      @@mr.redguard6702 its a reference to the “that wasnt very cash money” meme

  • @SamG5457
    @SamG5457 3 года назад +1527

    It has been stated that Chromastone is physically stronger than Swampfire so even if the Gauntlet is a boring episode I can appreciate how strong they made him in that episode

  • @darkhelmet87
    @darkhelmet87 3 года назад +333

    10:55 maybe Ben wasn't disgusted so much as embarrassed thinking
    "I can't believe this guy used to be one of our arch foes"
    Like years later, he's having an interview
    Reporter: so Ben, what would you say were your greatest challenges as a hero
    Ben: well there's vilgax for starters, as well as the highbreed, dagon, Khyber. Ironically one of my best friends Kevin, back when he was a bad guy
    Reporter: you mean the guy who put straws in his nose pretending to be a walrus?
    Ben: he was scarier when we were kids, I swear!

    • @rahulabraham1098
      @rahulabraham1098 3 года назад +43

      It also seems like he could be telling a funny story about Ben, which is why Ben looks embarrassed while Gwen finds it so funny because she totally gets it.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 2 года назад +5

      Would be a bit odd since Kevin and ben didn't spend much time together rahul.

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 Год назад +2

      He could also be embarrassed because he feels like a third wheel.

  • @StanHanrahan
    @StanHanrahan 3 года назад +673

    11:21 that’s gotta be the weirdest hologram I’ve ever seen

    • @safiyypro5467
      @safiyypro5467 3 года назад +47

      The zombie pose is odd

    • @shyguygaming5397
      @shyguygaming5397 3 года назад +80

      He’s shrugging. It’s like Jetray is saying “Pick me, or don’t. I don’t really care one way or the other.”

    • @johntheanimator4317
      @johntheanimator4317 3 года назад +7

      lol

    • @Neonl1ghts
      @Neonl1ghts 3 года назад +10

      Looks like he's trying to do a double salt bae

    • @TheNightTyrant
      @TheNightTyrant 3 года назад +9

      It's kinda cute, I wanna hug Jetray.

  • @CalamitasCalliope
    @CalamitasCalliope 3 года назад +423

    I think Kevin's notoriety in Bellwood is a more recent thing. We don't know how long it has been since episode one so Kevin could have been living in Bellwood for several months now and gotten a reputation due to him being around Ben/Gwen

    • @silentshadow3894
      @silentshadow3894 3 года назад +55

      That makes sense. I mean he wasn’t even originally from Bellwood. They found him in a random arcade on their travels.

    • @cyriletuk4124
      @cyriletuk4124 3 года назад +12

      + who knows how long he was in Bellwood before the pilot episode

    • @silentshadow3894
      @silentshadow3894 3 года назад +20

      @@cyriletuk4124 well seeing as Ben and Gwen hadn’t known he was there. Either not long or not publicly

    • @mechajay3358
      @mechajay3358 3 года назад +8

      Yeah, Kevin is the type to leave quite an impression on people.

  • @albedo5455
    @albedo5455 3 года назад +858

    Kuro: Ben's secret identity doesn't make any sense.
    *laughs in Danny Phantom*

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 3 года назад +85

      A mask for hood could’ve gone a long way pfft. I mean I guess theres that excuse in invincible about people not expecting to see superheroes in every day situations…. *but the government literally goes after danny.*

    • @13KuriMaster
      @13KuriMaster 3 года назад +73

      Ehh, Danny has quite a few things backing him up..... at least he is isn't typically transforming right out in the open.

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 3 года назад +96

      @@13KuriMaster true, bur his hero form is basically him with white hair and green eyes. And he often saving or at least interacting with people who personally know him.

    • @Nob0dy-07
      @Nob0dy-07 3 года назад +13

      @@GreaterGrievobeast55 white eyes and green hair?

    • @nahte123456
      @nahte123456 3 года назад +54

      Eh, at least Danny has the excuse of him existing being considered impossible, so even if recognized no one would pursue that line of thought. Ben just gets called out in public with other shape shifting and magic-y things.

  • @BeastForce141
    @BeastForce141 3 года назад +397

    This episode show that, Ben matured after 5 years.
    Cash vs Chromstone fight shows that.

    • @danielsurvivor1372
      @danielsurvivor1372 3 года назад +30

      Ben in Ultimate Alien: How bout nouu xd

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 3 года назад +30

      @@danielsurvivor1372 blame cartoon network executives ordering ben to go back to behave like his 10 year old self

    • @vesha6274
      @vesha6274 3 года назад +12

      @@danielsurvivor1372 he was good in UA tbh, OV kinda made him immature again

    • @Squishito
      @Squishito 3 года назад +7

      _Off screen, before the show started, basically making him just snap into someone the opposite of his original character with zero satisfying character progression for the audience..._
      Great.

    • @felipe_drawmania1604
      @felipe_drawmania1604 3 года назад +5

      @@vesha6274 There were moments in UA were Ben seemed comically Imature,and not in a particular charming way either.

  • @masenyaolivia9705
    @masenyaolivia9705 3 года назад +454

    Kuro's hair is the highlight of each week's breakdown.

    • @mohakoto9611
      @mohakoto9611 3 года назад +18

      This is kuro best hair. Fight me

    • @emanuelrojas2
      @emanuelrojas2 3 года назад +9

      At some point we’re gonna see him with a buzz cut or something

    • @jeremiahnsube372
      @jeremiahnsube372 3 года назад +4

      Well...duh

    • @atnjilgupyu3098
      @atnjilgupyu3098 3 года назад +4

      Bro first made a review on alien force ep vengances of vilgax
      Also starting scene starts with vilgax defeating and absorbing ultimo power
      He also comments he had absorbed 10 heroes of 10 worlds power so try to predict who were those this is a big question in Ben 10 fandom you have to answer it
      Please reply

    • @bluefire9285
      @bluefire9285 3 года назад +2

      Why the hell do we keep talking about his hair?

  • @travisherndon94
    @travisherndon94 3 года назад +106

    Cash: I kicked Kevin Levin's butt
    Crowd: Who?!
    Cash: ...

  • @MagillanicaLouM
    @MagillanicaLouM 3 года назад +160

    Yeah I don't get how Kevin has a "cool kid in town" rep either. He never even lived in Bellwood before AF iirc and was null voided for 5 years. Dunno how much time passed since he came back in order to build a rep around town either but I guess like you said, he just radiated mysterious new kid energy and probably put any local bullies/other tough guys in their place off screen

    • @najarintheoverowrldermuge6568
      @najarintheoverowrldermuge6568 3 года назад +69

      A. Kevin drives a highly custom and iconic car
      B. He's got enough speeding tickets that he's caught enough people's attention
      C. Any local assholes trying to prove something to everyone by messing with him have been decked by this point.
      D. Kevin doesn't have a job, he works with alien tech illegally which while the alien tech is secret the fact that he's up to shady shit is the norm.

    • @thedivineshadow451
      @thedivineshadow451 3 года назад +25

      @@najarintheoverowrldermuge6568 and he was a flirt at the beginning so he probably was around town like that having fun 🤣

    • @sludgedweller
      @sludgedweller 3 года назад +24

      kevin was in the null void for 3 years, not 5, so he had a good 2 years to make an impact in bellwood before the show starts
      yeah, i AM the guy that goes through the youtube comments to correct people on simple mistakes

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 2 года назад +5

      @@sludgedweller But what could he have done Gwen and Ben didn't know He was there an episode one.
      Plus he was probably wherever he originally came from because because he probably went to see his mom When he got out of the nol void And was mentally stable in the 1st time in years

    • @uvindukulathunga3860
      @uvindukulathunga3860 2 года назад +1

      I remembe understanding it was an inconsistency when I was 12 , Im impressed with my 12 year old self

  • @powersleet
    @powersleet 3 года назад +146

    If the people just ran away when JT attacked....that would've excused Ben transforming in the middle of a smoothie shop....

  • @timtimothy5405
    @timtimothy5405 3 года назад +56

    This is unironically my favorite episode. Kevin standing up for Ben, ben being mature, Kevin's almost sadistic moment in wanting to fight him, the cafe scene, and the debut(no the other one didn't count) of my favorite alien chromastone, and my second fav, goop

    • @GreaterGrievobeast55
      @GreaterGrievobeast55 3 года назад +4

      Huh!! Certainly wouldn’t be my first pick but I can respect a unique opinion like that!

  • @Alistair_McCullom
    @Alistair_McCullom 3 года назад +201

    Even if I wasn't a huge Chromastone fan, this easily one of the most intense and coolest fights in the entire franchise

    • @SamG5457
      @SamG5457 3 года назад +26

      The way he absolutely beats the shit out of Chromastone and he just shrugs it off like nothing is amazing

  • @mahmouddagher5127
    @mahmouddagher5127 3 года назад +65

    One of the most exited breakdowns cause of ben beating them with words instead of just putting them up a tree with their underwear

  • @LizardOfOz69
    @LizardOfOz69 3 года назад +56

    Kuro: "Scott Manville is also known for Robin from Teen Titans..."
    Me: indeed
    Kuro: "...GO!"
    Me: *I'm immeasurably disappointed and my day is ruined*

    • @Squishito
      @Squishito 3 года назад +24

      It's horrifying but in the current age he probably is more known for Go than the original. We live in a fucking hellscape dude.

    • @diamond_dude1063
      @diamond_dude1063 3 года назад +10

      oh hey look, it's batman from teen titans go.

    • @LizardOfOz69
      @LizardOfOz69 3 года назад +2

      @@diamond_dude1063 He isn't even voiced, too.

  • @Truck-kun11
    @Truck-kun11 3 года назад +62

    The lesser used aliens always end up being the ones that surprise the most in the decisive moments, like when Vilgax got the Ominitrix and Ben only got it back thanks to the Goop being able to have the Gravity projector turned off and the Omnitrix ripped off

    • @langletprolet8378
      @langletprolet8378 3 года назад +2

      It’s just Vilgax being stupid.

    • @Squishito
      @Squishito 3 года назад +2

      @@langletprolet8378 And the lore and plot being absolutely idiotic.

    • @N.I.A23
      @N.I.A23 3 года назад

      @FueguitoAzul maybe,but primus concept and execution was so darn terrible I had no idea how it was able to get far enough to ultimate alien. Thanks god omniverse ditched it.

  • @ghostspark8053
    @ghostspark8053 3 года назад +30

    Kevin when he can punch cash without killing him: WOOOOO LET'S GO BABY

  • @recargadorfandango3886
    @recargadorfandango3886 3 года назад +47

    This and "Introducing Kevin 11" have my 2 favorite Ben moments, both show react how Ben react to his bullied, meanwhile AF show his maturity and how has changed in 5 years, Reboot show a kid with a lot power react to a bullied that not only constantly bullied him, but also mimicking his abilities, pulling to the limit of attacking him in a very personal way, maybe that 2 episodes aren't perfect, but I love how Ben take care of his bullied there

  • @Kirbylight2
    @Kirbylight2 3 года назад +38

    The unexpected voice of Ben 10,000 saying “Kevin” is a great running gag in these breakdowns

  • @LiterallyMeGR
    @LiterallyMeGR 3 года назад +205

    If you think about it, Kuro, Ben and Gwen's secret identity was revealed, way back in “All that glitters” (Or at least it should have been) when Ben turned into humoungasaur on top of the bridge, and Gwen rescued others with her pink shields. The people were in a good position under the bridge to have a view on Gwen and Ben. Then after all of that, Ben DETRANSFORMS from humoungasaur UNDER the bridge. All The people, strangely enough, had gone from the scene. Another point is that, Ben shouted the name, and it should have caught people's attention. Plus Gwen was actively talking to ben, when rescuing people, who literally could see her.

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 3 года назад +36

      Sometimes i kinda wish there was an scene of people saying the classic "we won't tell anyone" as a thank you for saving their lives

    • @bestjayceejay2518
      @bestjayceejay2518 3 года назад +7

      @@ianr.navahuber2195 lol like in Sam rami Spider-Man 2

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 3 года назад +9

      I forgot about that. Ben literally transforms in public when stuff gets crazy and then proceeds to draw attention to himself (standing in the same spot) by shouting the alien (self given) name.

  • @bionic-tale4313
    @bionic-tale4313 3 года назад +30

    My brother says that the Glove Possessed Cash beat ups Chromastone in this episode, however Chromastone barely flitch at the attacks. He doesn't even looked hurt when thrown at a truck, he just wave his finger at Cash afterwards.

  • @jetstreamjackie3437
    @jetstreamjackie3437 3 года назад +64

    This episode made me think their notes for guest writers in Alien Force was just “Ben’s rival, the coolest guy in town” without mentioning the years-long imprisonment in the Null Void. Makes sense I guess but it just left me so confused lol.

    • @JoelFeila
      @JoelFeila 3 года назад +12

      yeah sometimes it feels like the writers only thought that Kevin is some bully and not a criminal

    • @Squishito
      @Squishito 3 года назад +11

      @@JoelFeila Even the main writers seemed to forget or at least ignore that Kevin was a creepy, confirmed evil sociopath who murderously hated society and obsessively fixated on and _despised_ Ben who definitely would have gone even _more_ insane after spending years in the hell dimension he was trapped in. Now he's some sweet, buff, cool guy, car obsessed dudebro who gets girls lol, no development to show the change at all. It's not even remotely the same character. They basically do not give a shit about consistency with the original series and basically just make shit up whenever they feel like, even when it fucks with their own stories.

  • @staw_
    @staw_ 3 года назад +14

    Aye, I really appreciate the shoutout.
    Always waiting for new breakdown every week.

  • @ride-playerbb2818
    @ride-playerbb2818 3 года назад +25

    Ben in here _and_ the original series: doesn't even bother hiding his identity
    Ultimate Alien: reveals his identity to the world
    Ben: Surprised Pikachu face

  • @deltastudios6632
    @deltastudios6632 3 года назад +151

    The Techadon glove definitely has a form of mental connection with whoever is using it, given the whole 'possession' thing. That would explain why Cash and J.T could fire the lasers telepathically.
    As for the Chromastone scene, no one seemed to actually be around by the time Ben actually transformed. It could've just been just the production team saving resources on background characters, but it could've also been that everyone ran away once Cash started fighting (I certainly wouldn't stand around if some crazy guy in armor blew up a car to show off). And it would align with the fact no by-standers were around by the time the fight finished.
    Cash probably came to the conclusion that it was Ben, since the new guy had the same symbol of Ben's watch on his chest, and the fact he appeared right were Ben was. With Jetray, he didn't do it because he couldn't risk they seeing him transform, but in this instance Ben accepted that he would have to show Cash his identity in order to actually save him. I doubt it made much of a difference, if Cash knew or not. Since he just shot J.T, he probably was taken by mindless agression, and would've attacked him regardless if it was Ben or not.

    • @mr.piplup7
      @mr.piplup7 3 года назад +9

      Holy crap dude... That's awesome

    • @bobbyahmad5197
      @bobbyahmad5197 3 года назад +10

      that's a logical possibility

  • @moha94vss38
    @moha94vss38 3 года назад +80

    Ngl you gotta appreciate this guy dedication for bullying and also how everyone in the kindergarten still know each other that ain't classmate anymore they family

  • @catandogclone7880
    @catandogclone7880 3 года назад +10

    “No juice for you!” Is a reference to the Seinfeld episode “Soup Nazi” where the chef was called the Soup Nazi for how strict he was when people ordered.

  • @skibot9974
    @skibot9974 3 года назад +33

    As a kid I didn't realize "Goodbye and Good Riddance" was non-canon so my thought was that everybody in Bellwood already knew Ben was a hero and Gwen wanted to hide the fact Ben came out of retirement for whatever reason. Maybe the guest writer made the same mistake as me?

    • @JoelFeila
      @JoelFeila 3 года назад +14

      yeah i forgot that Goodbye was non cannon. easy mistake to do, and this episode fits with that timeline

  • @FrostiOrca
    @FrostiOrca 3 года назад +12

    this made me realize my favorite aliens growing up were 1 or 3 groups:
    Fire Powers
    Duplicate themselves
    or have liquid/viscous bodies

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 3 года назад +91

    One could argue that the Celestial Sapiens are behind it. Sure, they haven’t been introduced yet, but that’s been the explanation of all the changes. So no one speaking up about Ben being a transforming hero… Celestial Sapiens did it!!

    • @lewismartin3430
      @lewismartin3430 3 года назад +25

      this is Ben 10s version of "speedforce"

    • @Goat10Solos
      @Goat10Solos 3 года назад +14

      Probably they did change the plot of the show 3 times.

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 3 года назад +13

      @@lewismartin3430 "Ben what did you you to the time line!?!"

    • @jacenskywalker507
      @jacenskywalker507 3 года назад +5

      *Guy from Ancient Aliens: "Aliens."*

    • @RedDragonForce2
      @RedDragonForce2 3 года назад +2

      @@l0sts0ul89 “It wasn’t me, it was the Celestial Sapiens!”

  • @Neo232100
    @Neo232100 3 года назад +57

    One of my issues with this episode is that for most of it we see Cash as this really aggressive kinda thuggish dude who basically gets off on other people's misery or hurting people. Only for a bit of a tawdry resolution of his heightened aggression being a result of the Techadon armor. Even though outside of his eyes glowing there was no real inclination of that before the end. I think that a better sign of setting up this resolution could have had him either start off as a bit less determined to kick Kevin's ass at first, or a scene of him and JT being friends before he starts acting like a complete douchebag.

  • @femthingevelyn
    @femthingevelyn 3 года назад +97

    I would say that this should get AT LEAST a 3 in importance considering it introduces apparently the singular thing Ben loves the most

  • @Truck-kun11
    @Truck-kun11 3 года назад +20

    Anyone else remember when the Omnitrix was simply taken from the Goop's body when he had the Gravity Projector turned off. He is the only Alien in the entire Franchise that can make someone lose the Omnitrix easily

  • @ianr.navahuber2195
    @ianr.navahuber2195 3 года назад +35

    In hindsight, this episode reminds me "the fact Ben's stayed a secret globally is nothing short of a miracle"
    The fact it didn't end up becoming an open secret in Bellwood at least, is kind of amazing

    • @JoelFeila
      @JoelFeila 3 года назад +5

      maybe it is like that old college humor sketch. Some girls at a sleep over just figure out who Batman must be. Then instantly the cops show up and force them to sign a NDA. Turns everyone in Gotham knows and but does say it so Batmen will keep Wayne Industries will stay in town.

    • @jbcatz5
      @jbcatz5 3 года назад +4

      Could be a Buffy type situation where that the title character has something about them is an open secret (which Buffy learned in the episode where she was given the Class Protector award). How many people got fobbed off with the line about gangs on PCP? The school paper has an obituary section, and a football said in earnest this line, “This is our year. If we can focus, keep discipline, and not have quite as many mysterious deaths, Sunnydale is gonna rule!”

  • @icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
    @icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 3 года назад +26

    Ben’s secret identity is up there with Superman’s as a how the heck does that work?

    • @hero5900
      @hero5900 3 года назад +5

      superman actual make sense if you think about it from the perspective of the people in universe why be normal when you can be superman twenty four seven

    • @cartoonishidealism582
      @cartoonishidealism582 3 года назад +7

      With Superman there’s at least the explanation that no one knows Superman has a secret identity?
      Also Clark could just like, show people his baby pictures, or pictures of him in high school, or call up his clearly normal human parents and they’d probably be like “OK yeah he’s not Superman.”

    • @icantbelieveyoudonethis4059
      @icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 3 года назад +2

      @@cartoonishidealism582 I get that but like he has the same build, height, hair colour, skin colour and even voice. Plus he shows up in Metropolis around the same time superman does.

    • @TheRealNekora
      @TheRealNekora 3 года назад +3

      @@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059 iirc its becuse superman is pretty stoic and confident while clank is akward and a little clumbsy

    • @ianr.navahuber2195
      @ianr.navahuber2195 3 года назад +4

      @@hero5900 reminds me of the alternate continuity "Superman: American Alien" comic
      where people see clark and only think "dude, you look exactly like superman"
      the explanation is so simple ridiculous it would work
      Also, others like Grant Morrison in All Star superman came up with explanations like "clark grouches, and behaves more clumsy than when he is superman". Although i prefer American Alien's explanation
      Also that, in American Alien, people from clark's hometown Smallvile now, but they kinda chose to keep clark's secret as "one of the town's secrets". Like an open secret among them

  • @JPJ1608
    @JPJ1608 3 года назад +28

    "How does everyone know who Kevin is?"
    *slams table* THANK YOU!

    • @Alpha121198
      @Alpha121198 3 года назад +10

      If you mess with his car you are a dead man walking. Someone found out and everyone knows.

  • @LtJason20
    @LtJason20 3 года назад +15

    To me the fight scene with Kevin and Cash, it felt like they "purposely" made Kevin slowly absorb the metal from the shelf to purposely lose against Cash.

  • @100-People
    @100-People 3 года назад +18

    The everyone knowing Kevin thing is even more funny considering Kevin did not live in Bellwood as a kid, so no one should know him lmao

  • @VanillaFluffs
    @VanillaFluffs 3 года назад +10

    Cheering and clapping, yeah I don't think anyone would have done that when Ben stood up to Cash and JT, but I could see them snickering and whispering. In the first episode of the original series we saw the two of them stealing money from another kid when Ben stepped in, so more than likely Ben isn't the only person they bully. Some of those other people might've been in that crowd, like the one guy who stood up like he was ready to fight.

  • @theluigifan1
    @theluigifan1 3 года назад +45

    10:17 In fairness, a scene like that probably would’ve garnered an “Ooooooh” response from a crowd in real life instead of a cheer. lol

    • @Bertiboy
      @Bertiboy 3 года назад +6

      Yeah, I was thinking a brief response like that from the people or perhaps quiet sniggering probably would’ve worked better. Cash would still blow it out of proportion anyway even if it wasn’t a major thing so your version would still make sense from a story perspective

    • @Ale_LSH
      @Ale_LSH 3 года назад +9

      Or at least one guy going ''daaaaaaaamn''

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 3 года назад +6

      @@Bertiboy TBF this is first a show on CN trying to teach kids desirable morals. A cheering response for standing up against bullies (and not getting violent) gives off a much better image. If it was real life there'd have been some be recording the whole thing (so the internet can get sympathetic afterwards and no one has to do anything to help during) and chants for a fight.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 2 года назад

      Yeah, most people wouldn't care that much vulord

  • @aadi938
    @aadi938 3 года назад +63

    My personal canon is that the omnitirix is so smart it breaks the fourth wall and faces the viewer instead…

  • @colossaldonut5190
    @colossaldonut5190 3 года назад +7

    I'm glad now that we're doing the animation breakdowns we finally get to appreciate Goop. It's so sad after a while in UAF they relegated Goop as the Greymatter "joke" transformation. Such a cool alien by design and always so beautifully animated and integrated into fights and plot points so well but most of his appearances devolve into "welp, I guess I'm Goop now".
    It's just always a joy to see him animated as Goop because of how much care and planning must have gone into every movement, it really shows their efforts so well.

  • @prabum7179
    @prabum7179 3 года назад +13

    The real question is how Kevin, disappeared for years, came back to deal mostly in technology that people don't even know exists, became friends with a giant rat, and was somehow the coolest kid in town

  • @Hawkatana
    @Hawkatana 3 года назад +14

    Fun fact: I actually tried parroting Ben's speech to my bullies in primary school to get them to stop.
    I got beaten up.

  • @connormedeiros5970
    @connormedeiros5970 3 года назад +21

    Always bothered me how people didn’t see Ben turn into Chromastone, or at least didn’t question how this creature just appeared and Ben mysteriously vanished.

  • @mhc706
    @mhc706 3 года назад +4

    i like to think that as ben got more and more famous his "favorite smoothy place" cashed in on him always being there and with the increased funds could upgrade their building to facilitate more customers.

  • @timtimothy5405
    @timtimothy5405 3 года назад +5

    Bellwood always gave me small town vibes. I'm from a relatively small town and rumors get around fast. Kevin probably set up shop there, had one or two rude encounters, and immediately hit the spotlight.
    Usually it's the town mom's. My brother is a door to door salesman's (solar panels), and after he did his rounds his friend said his mom's facebook group was abuzz gossipping about him, and just saying blatantly untrue stuff like "he was wearing all black" when his uniform is light blue
    So yeah my theory is kevin was rude to a middle aged woman and she told her friends an exxagerated version, and he quickly became the boogeyman

  • @majerjines7726
    @majerjines7726 3 года назад +51

    4:51 well I see them as this
    Glowing mana: more energy like used for blasts and/or when she's putting a lot of power in to something
    Shadowed mana: more of a solid three dimensional construct that takes focus to make and do to E=mc2 takes a lot of energy to make even a very weak one but are the most versatile
    Transparent mana: weaker spells that probably focus more on a specific effect and take more skill to do then draw power
    What do you think kuro?

  • @AlienSteel5253
    @AlienSteel5253 3 года назад +15

    10:18 you know what? yeah. I like that scene. The applause I would buy. But cheering Ben as if he just now saved a cat from the tree, that’s a little overkill

  • @jasondermack7485
    @jasondermack7485 3 года назад +50

    I always took Ben's secret identity as everyone in Bellwood sort of being on the honor system if that makes sense. They kind of know it's him but everyone keeps it to themselves. Once Jimmy Jones reveals Ben's identity in Ultimate Alien on a national level then it becomes more of a big deal. However, there are plenty of times going all the way back to the original series where Ben's identity could have easily been revealed

  • @umapessoa240
    @umapessoa240 3 года назад +42

    One little thing I always liked is that Gwen knew about Ben and JT’s friendship from a time before the summer road trip. With how estranged Ben and Gwen were back then, one would think they wouldn’t know or care about each other’s personal lives, but Gwen being on (mildly) good terms with Ben’s friends at the time is sweet.

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 3 года назад +8

      I wouldn't say they were estranged before that, they have the same birthday and had gone through enough shared celebrations to be annoyed by the fact at 10 years old, and if anything their bickering is probably the result of a close almost sibling like history. They live in the same town their whole lives, so it makes sense they would be familiar with some of each other's more close friends especially if they were invited to things like aforementioned birthday celebrations often, despite going to different schools. Unless they went to the same school up at least until after first grade as well, but now I'm going on tangents lol

    • @Xeno-The-Wanderer
      @Xeno-The-Wanderer 3 года назад +8

      Despite being cousins I think living in the same town and sharing so much they seem more like stubborn twins in the original series in terms of relationship and here its closer to a mellowed out sibling relationship and being that way siblings usually know a decent amount of the other’s social lives at least I think so at least when they’re younger

  • @ghostspider2056
    @ghostspider2056 3 года назад +7

    Cash with the gauntlet armor reminds me a lot of *Flash Thompson* with the symbiote as *Agent Venom.* A bully turned hero with a symbiotic suit, imagine if they did that to Cash also.

  • @justsomeguywithabeardx
    @justsomeguywithabeardx Год назад +2

    It's not surprising that Kevin has a reputation.
    Kevin is the quintessential "bad boy". He drives a cool car. Dates hot girls. Throws wild parties. Has shady dealings with suspicious people. He couldn't care less about what people think about him. With an attitude like Kevin's it's also safe to assume he gets in fights. And I'll bet he wins 100% of those fights without even breaking a sweat.
    That's more than enough to get a reputation around your average suburban town.
    The strange part is Cash had no problem with going to fight against the people who had advanced weapons in their car trunk like it was a spare tyre.

  • @cjfhotshot2838
    @cjfhotshot2838 3 года назад +9

    This is one of my favorite episodes in the franchise
    Goop and Chromastone got some of the greatest action sequences here, and seeing how far Bens come is heartwarming
    as for Kevins cool guy rep, I like to think that It's a mystery aspect like conspiricies about the criminal underworld.... or it's the car

  • @mochapoke3100
    @mochapoke3100 3 года назад +6

    The " KEVIN!?!?" never fails to make me laugh

  • @antonioaugustoveras7797
    @antonioaugustoveras7797 3 года назад +6

    13:20 maybe you should add a new counter for every time Kevin broke into a place like that

  • @SmashGamer728
    @SmashGamer728 3 года назад +9

    Finally, someone appreciates Goop. He was actually my favorite of the Alien Force batch and kinda felt alone that I was the only one who loved him. He’s such a versatile and interesting alien

  • @turtledude83
    @turtledude83 3 года назад +13

    I actually weirdly love "The Gauntlet" because of that Chromastone scene. It made me actually like him after the underwhelming scene in "All That Glitters".

  • @williamnguyen8663
    @williamnguyen8663 2 года назад +4

    Always loved how despite cash having a buff enough to beat Kevin, Ben has no problem tossing him around. Like he’s swatting him around

  • @jatmtom475
    @jatmtom475 3 года назад +7

    I always thought that sometime must have past since the pilot episode giving enough room for Kevin to be know as "tuff" guy in town. In retrospective I find kind of weird that alien force to omniverse all happened in around 2 years

  • @Scsigs
    @Scsigs 3 года назад +3

    "NO JUICE FOR YOU!"
    That made me & my brother laugh years ago the first time we saw it. We didn't even know that it was a Seinfeld reference cuz we were kids. Yuri's line delivery was just that funny to kid me & my brother.
    "Bring a mop for your blood."
    Random clip I didn't expect, but am glad it's there.
    Yeah. In regards to Ben using the Omnitrix on JT & Cash, it's sort of implied that those 2 knew about Ben's secret with it before they fought. That doesn't make much sense because they didn't know in the original series &, when they DID know, it was in the non-canon series finale where Ben got it revealed to everyone, but we knew it didn't count. It's weird. That kinda implies that they found out after Ben got back home after the events of the original series, but before Ben would take it off for a while.

  • @zeldafan6124
    @zeldafan6124 3 года назад +4

    YES, return of Ben 10k's "Kevin". I don't know why, but that's one of my favorite running gags in these breakdowns

  • @lolglolblol
    @lolglolblol 3 года назад +4

    In a lot of fantasy games, the slime enemy is depicted as having a core that functions as a sort of brain.
    I imagine that perhaps Goop's species may have had this at some point as well but separated their core and put it into the little UFO. That way it is more protected, but they now need a gravity field to keep their body shape (which I imagine would have been kept together by the core before)

  • @jdrog97
    @jdrog97 3 года назад +5

    Chromastone has always been one of my favorite underrated aliens

  • @johngrady8375
    @johngrady8375 3 года назад +4

    I like the fact that this episode title is a bit of a play on words. Yes, its specifically references the gauntlet of the techadon, but "gauntlet" also means challenge. Just like how Ben was challenged to the fight, or how he challenged the establishment by being mature and standing up to bullies.

  • @PhantoRoyce
    @PhantoRoyce 3 года назад +4

    I thought I read that Goops anti gravity thing actually was a tiny UFO with Ben inside. He’s using some of loud speaker,not a vocal synthesizer so there’s someone in there

  • @alissafioravanti832
    @alissafioravanti832 3 года назад +6

    I had a book with this whole episode along with screenshots from said episode. However, for some reason for at the beginning when Bens Omnitrix isn’t working the pictures show Ben with the classic Omnitrix as opposed to the alien force version. My guess is that some of the pictures used were from Ben 10 returns part 1 but I find it really weird considering they had pictures from the rest of this episode.

  • @vetarlittorf1807
    @vetarlittorf1807 3 года назад +59

    There's a contradiction in this episode. In the OG series, Gwen doesn't recognize JT and Cash because she doesn't go to the same school as Ben. But here she has apparently known them since first grade.

    • @tetraswift
      @tetraswift 3 года назад +1

      Fits with that multiverse theory in Omni

    • @itszefas
      @itszefas 3 года назад +30

      Not going to he same school doesnt mean they have no idea who each other are, they could've met after classic and ben couldve told her about him, or they mightve even met if Gwen was ever visiting ben.

    • @moviehermit5631
      @moviehermit5631 3 года назад +19

      @@itszefas Or maybe Ben just told her how he and JT used to be friends

    • @DeepakKumar-fi4os
      @DeepakKumar-fi4os 3 года назад +3

      If you remember baseball , in this episode of classic series she both JT and Cash .

    • @vetarlittorf1807
      @vetarlittorf1807 3 года назад +6

      @@DeepakKumar-fi4os Yes, but in that episode she sarcastically asked Ben if they were his friends. Indicating that she didn't know who they were.

  • @painvillegaming4119
    @painvillegaming4119 3 года назад +7

    13:20 so once each episode
    We should have made a Kevin breakin counter

  • @ColdFuse96
    @ColdFuse96 3 года назад +4

    6:52 Lmao. I like how Kevin kind of just hit the ground and slid back but Gwen completely ragdolled like in Skyrim 😂

  • @danielsurvivor1372
    @danielsurvivor1372 3 года назад +9

    13:21 When is the "Kevin breaking into places" counter is gonna become a thing?

  • @jammedout191
    @jammedout191 3 года назад +8

    This episode was one I really enjoyed when I was rewatching alien force, the goop fight, reintroduced jt and cash as well as the chromosome fight are pretty good, maybe more ultimate aliens speed for the secret identity flaws but fun, as for Kevin’s reputation, Kevin probably has a rep as a “tough criminal” or “someone you don’t wanna cross” type. someone who’s got a sketchy past, so I saw it as vague fear rather than Kevin’s cool

  • @DragonspineInfiniteZero
    @DragonspineInfiniteZero 3 года назад +5

    Strangely when i was getting bullied in 8th grade and we had an Anti-bully week they show a clip from this episode where ben confornts cash about his behavior and that always stuck with me, probably also wwith alot of people

  • @yousefalmudhaf4083
    @yousefalmudhaf4083 3 года назад +60

    I always thought the identity thing made sense I mean look at Clark with his glasses. It’s not supposed to be hard to figure out he’s Ben 10 in real life but it’s a superhero show so all logic is out the window. Thank you Kirk for these amazing videos btw you never disappoint.

    • @emanuelrojas2
      @emanuelrojas2 3 года назад +8

      Well to be fair, Dolly Parton losed in a Dolly Parton lookalike contest.

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 3 года назад +5

      At lesst Supes puts some effort into his disguise, slouches, baggy clothes, glasses, acts differently, etc

    • @SeraphOC
      @SeraphOC 3 года назад +4

      To be fair, one of the actors of Superman themselves lost in a Superman Look-Alike contest.

  • @tiagotiagot
    @tiagotiagot 2 года назад +4

    Maybe the people in the Mr. Smoothie were from Ben's high-school, and they're all there because the place is popular with the students, and that's why everyone knows Ben and the crew, and why they're all there?

  • @nightwarper1760
    @nightwarper1760 3 года назад +5

    “I currently have some neighbors moving upstairs, so if you hear any banging, sorry about that”
    Oh, so newlyweds

  • @alexharwell9956
    @alexharwell9956 3 года назад +2

    The Ink tank: THE best Ben 10 channel I've ever seen in my life! Such intelligent discussions, a great breakdown of each episode and its mistakes (both artistic and story-based), some funny moments in each upload as well. A solid 10/10 in each degree!

  • @robbiehewitt55
    @robbiehewitt55 2 года назад +5

    This is one of my favorite episodes. This episode is also a big (the biggest) reason that Chromastone is my favorite of Ben's aliens. I wish we saw more of him in Omniverse, but at least he was in the finale.

  • @shadowclaw7210
    @shadowclaw7210 2 года назад +2

    I think the reason Kevin considered a cool guy. It’s mainly because he owns car.

  • @doctorleak5312
    @doctorleak5312 2 года назад +4

    It makes sense how his secret Identity stays that way for so long when you consider Max's influence as well as all Ben's ally's

  • @dandan6819
    @dandan6819 Год назад +2

    This episode always bothers me when rewatching it. Cash finds a glove that shoots lasers with enough power to create holes in a factory wall and his first thought is, “this’ll scare the juice out of Tennyson, last time he’ll ever talk smack to me.”. He planned on threatening to kill people with his new gun the moment he found it (before the suit could control him). Later on in the episode the the suits started controlling him, but cash stills shoots JT, which I doubt he knew Gwen could make a shield. So if Gwen wasn’t next to JT, JT would have died.

  • @ghostsurfer23
    @ghostsurfer23 3 года назад +5

    I think I left a long comment about this episode on another video, so I'll keep it short and say I really love the way Ben stands up for himself to Cash in this episode. A lesser show would have either let their superpower fight serve as the only necessary confrontation between them, or hold Ben to the standard that he HAS to turn the other cheek and rise above it. We get a happy medium of Ben saying he's not gonna take it anymore, and he does it as himself. Good stuff.

  • @mohakoto9611
    @mohakoto9611 3 года назад +7

    9:18 if Mr smoothie was not meant to be a recurring location it would have just been called smoothies like every other food place called diner or restaurant.

  • @tjtomenes
    @tjtomenes 3 года назад +7

    Man, it's that time of the week already?
    I love these breakdowns so much! I learn a lot every time I watch one.
    Thank you for all the hard work you, and everyone involved put into these videos, Kuro!

  • @mochapoke3100
    @mochapoke3100 3 года назад +4

    I won't tell max that kevin is your favourite if you don't tell him paradox is mine!

  • @Koro_Sensi_6
    @Koro_Sensi_6 3 года назад +8

    14:12 Kevin’s secretly a Street Shark, I new It.

  • @kage-raigin
    @kage-raigin 2 года назад +2

    I think the reason for the gauntlet shrinking throughout the episode might be because the hand is like a dieing limb for the techadhon. it's body clearly has some form of life as it starts growing a new arm so I assume the reson the gauntlet shrinks is it's basicly a dieing parasite getting smaller and smaller till it finds a host as cash (also I think the lazer is fired by thought not a trigger)

  • @erenyeager2169
    @erenyeager2169 3 года назад +4

    Man These Breakdowns of Alien force always feels nostalgic, rewatching it and noticing all the little things we've missed, Glad to Have Kuro to share it with us.

  • @najarintheoverowrldermuge6568
    @najarintheoverowrldermuge6568 3 года назад +1

    Kevin drives a highly custom and iconic car, has a large amount of speeding tickets, and sells a lot of illegal alien shit.

  • @joelconolly5574
    @joelconolly5574 3 года назад +4

    I might've missed this a whole lot but dang Kuro has a lot of shoes. Forget breakdowns, drawings and work for a while that man has shoes videos to film.

  • @Eric-py8yy
    @Eric-py8yy 3 года назад +8

    I love the fact that Gwen said JT was friend with Ben once, i don't know but i ever wanted to see more from Ben beyond his Alien things and see if he had more friendships beyond Kevin, makes me think No Watch Ben timeline being friend with JT and Cash a little more believable

  • @Theokal3
    @Theokal3 3 года назад +5

    I'm kinda sad you skipped most of the Cash vs Chromastone fight. Personally I love the part where Cash throws him around, only for Chromastone to casually get up with not a single crash.

  • @HiperPivociarz
    @HiperPivociarz 3 года назад +2

    13:17 Seen here, Kevin "You break my car, I break your spinal cord" Ethan Levin about to bite off more than he can chew

  • @thecommenter6773
    @thecommenter6773 3 года назад +4

    The cats are the best part of these breakdowns, especially the unscripted nature of them coming in

  • @Jay_Rodimus
    @Jay_Rodimus 3 года назад +2

    With the focus on the secret identity in the beginning, there HAD to be a draft of the script where it was more important. Like planting the idea and then having Ben dramatically give up his secret to save Cash to pay it off. And then it got lost or changed somewhere down the line.