I am doing inner child healing, soul work and a big admirer of Jung, archetype and healthy self/ family. Self autonomy. I was adopted by grandfather and got reconnected to my real father. Sad thing is, although he's alive, he's still missing in my life. I found this video by syncronicity, because the pain of not having a father is very empty and confusing. I want to know "healthy father" so I can at least try to incorporate some of that for needed healing. Healthy model. I am a new subscriber to your channel. I'm surprised there aren't more LOVES and likes to your channel. PLEASE please, keep this going. Those of us with parental wounds, needs you, needs something SAFE we can turn to and TRUST. I am reading * The Laws of Human Nature by Robert Greene* and it goes well with Jung studies. WARNING: It's a hard book to put down. 😁
I needed to heal from negative mother and father complexes. I was so unkind to myself and I had no self-belief, no assertiveness to fuel any ambition. Just feeling inadequate and berating myself for that.
QUESTION. in fairy tales the blame is always placed on the wicked stepmother for her treatment of the children. Why does the father gets a pass? He is actually the one breaking his covenant with his children, while the stepmother never had a covenant with the children. In my mind the father is most to blame for not protecting his children, yet culturally this "oversight" of male responsibilities continues to get a pass
Maybe mainstream sitcom's passive and foolhardy father's is as close as the collective has gotten? Maybe this is part of the fight against "The Patriarchy", the "white man", this anger at failing to care for "us"?
What the hell are you even talking about? In how many stories are fathers getting a ''pass'' for re-marrying and allowing their children to be abused? In case you don't remember, Cinderella's father actually dies, which is why he can't protect her. And Snow White's father wouldn't have even been aware of the queen's actions. So that leaves what? Hansel and Gretel? Whose father abandoned them because his wife manipulated him while they were on the verge of starving? Yeah, that guys not winning father of the year, but how many cases even like that are there? I mean, look, just because your father sucked, that doesn't mean women are the eternal victims of men, exclusively. Women can be evil too, okay?
Hi, I'm here to say thank you guys and sending love 🙌💜. I listened to this episode on January and it helped me integrate the trauma caused by my father both physically and emotionally. This episode put me on the right path that led me to dream work, body work, writing and analysing my trauma in a safe way. My father in my dreams is a helpful protective figure and is by my side always and i have you to thank for that🌹. Keep up the good work.
Identification w the aggressor has been seen in narcissistic relations. The made up go the opposite way (a correction and want to be opposite of the narcissistic controlling father). Those women w a negative father complex will search for a romantic partner who is protective , they will see the world as a place where ones needs cannot be met. A persecutory perspective will be seen.
The puer or peter pan syndrome is seen in people who refuse to grow up. They demonstrate and adolescent emotional quality; some refuse to go get a job after graduation from college. An absent father or hero father is difficult to talk or connect with.
You guys always talk about theories but never give much practical or general advice on how to deal with these things. Would be nice if you could. Most of us dont have the luxury to afford an analyst.
This is so important! Coming from an orthodox religious community, this was spot on. These dynamics are way more exaggerated here. The over bearing father figure is unexcapable. And the response in people is predictable, between those two dynamics.
Thank you very much for these 'Jungian Life' talks guys, while as a therapist myself and an in large part Jungian fellow traveller, they have helped clarify my own thinking as it relates to the topics that you have discussed in each of your excellent episodes. As for the dream analysis in this edition, there may perhaps be some slight commonality here with the great narration, "Der Manne Sippe" that the character Sieglinde provides in Act 1 of Wagner's opera, 'Die Walkure' - a scene in which she describes Wotan (your grungy and gingerbread colored coat wearing middle age man) being present at her wedding to Hunding - while it is also suggests some aspects of Wagner's 'Parsifal' (i.e. the Fisher King archetype)...Anyway, and as any grounded and good dream analysis would confirm, the themes and motifs which are contained within dreams are, in the end, all archetypally interrelated.
Relate to the not caring anymore about society's norms, in this age. Just as you lovely ladies, I do not color all these silver and white streaks. It annoys my cosmetologist daughter, but it's my damn head! 😅
Very interesting as a psychotherapist. Tbe absent or hypercritical father causes one to seek out a father figure who might be accepting. The only thing I would caution is fairy tales and narcissistic relations w magical thinking. (Reality testing,judgment all ego functions). We want the ego to integrate+ and - introjects and thus not resort to splitting.
Everyone has daddy issues. Fathers are the most complicated puzzle to resolve. Full stop. Thank you for “ambulating “ around the Dad. It’s so complicated 🤨
When the ego identifies with the child complex it’s so painful she’ll abuse people the way her father did to her because she’s possessed by that complex. We become our own perpetrator. The boy can actually co-opt and merge with the father complex. It’s less permitted to become conscious in the woman. Like the boy will not merge the negative Mother complex The girl will not merge the negative father complex.
I would avoid any euphimisms about the chinoo giving the others the key to vring him down to size, its too similar to parental rescue fantasy which only further destroys a childs life. If you have an abusive harmful parent you will have to consider leaving.
They spoke of "Iron John", by Robert Bly (Interview with Bill Moyer on YT). I found it a fascinating read and fairy tale (Grimms Brothers). Did it help me to heal my Father Wounds? Not a clue, but it surely resonated. I'm glad to see the question, as I haven't read it in some time, and this was perhaps Synchronistic?! Also, James Hollis a Jungian Analyst and author who has been involved in The Minnesota Men's Conference (A channel on YT which features many videos which you might find helpful/interesting), comes to mind , might have books of interest. Robert Lee, has his own website (also found on Minnesota Men's Conference) is a therapist and author working with men. Hope this is useful.
I had a dream that I was explaining IFS to a criminal, weird man that I was stuck with. I was trying to make him better because I was afraid of him. I don't know if this was my own Animus, my Father, my fear of men or some combination of all three
I love how Joseph kept pulling back from the prematurely positive in validating the tremendous difficulty of taking on a monstrous father complex 🥹 thank you
Hi Delenn, Thank you for your interest in analytic sessions. You can reach out to any of us individually here: www.thisjungianlife.com/about-joe-lisa-and-deb/ Since each of us shape our private practice uniquely, I'd suggest following your intuition toward the specific analyst you wish to consult.
@@thisjungianlifeI too am deeply interested in working with one of you. Upon clicking the link however, I'm not seeing any information surrounding your private practice. Lisa-I see the link to your book. Joe- I see what you specialize in as well as publications and Deborah -I'm not seeing any link connected with your private practice Is there perhaps an email that I could correspond with either of you to set up a consultation?
I’m enjoying your videos immensely and learning more succinctly from your discussions than I did through 2 years of Jungian training! Could you tell me the name of the Algonquin fairy tale mentioned with regards to the monster ‘father’?
Damn! I was "brainwashing" myself with an audio book of Answer to Job, I downloaded it to my RUclips premium account, and listened to on repeat for over a week. Yesterday, I started to listened to it at 1.25 faster speed my whole work day; 5am-3pm. Today, I woke up on my day off and found it has been erased from RUclips completely. They even took it outta my downloads. Hmmm... I hate reading now cuz I get too into it, absorb too much outta it, and think beyond the edge of the ledge of the knowable. However, I am NOW gonna have to read this damn book. My plan was to imbibe it a month. It is the last key to unlocking my Dark Jungian final analysis and unleashing raw Shadow onto society... beyond commercial interests, marketing schemes, academic credibility.... is .... we shall see. I know why you guys can't delve this deep, who would be your customers if you put as much time into this piece as much as advertising? "In the name of Light, who are you?" [The Eagle of the Ninth, Rosemary Sutcliff, 1954] "Ads are not meant for conscious consumption." MCLUHAN (dare I inject, neither is making them?) Shhh
@@Eric-tj3tg of course. No need to be rude. You weren't incorrect. I was just confused originally about the derivative of the word. One is masculine one is feminine both speak of the same topic.
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I am doing inner child healing, soul work and a big admirer of Jung, archetype and healthy self/ family. Self autonomy.
I was adopted by grandfather and got reconnected to my real father. Sad thing is, although he's alive, he's still missing in my life.
I found this video by syncronicity, because the pain of not having a father is very empty and confusing. I want to know "healthy father" so I can at least try to incorporate some of that for needed healing. Healthy model.
I am a new subscriber to your channel. I'm surprised there aren't more LOVES and likes to your channel.
PLEASE please, keep this going. Those of us with parental wounds, needs you, needs something SAFE we can turn to and TRUST.
I am reading * The Laws of Human Nature by Robert Greene* and it goes well with Jung studies.
WARNING: It's a hard book to put down. 😁
Both my parents were absent, and dad was definitely a negative Influence on my self confidence.
My father complex is that he wasn't a provider and a protector
I needed to heal from negative mother and father complexes. I was so unkind to myself and I had no self-belief, no assertiveness to fuel any ambition. Just feeling inadequate and berating myself for that.
Have you healed? What does your life look like after healing?
QUESTION. in fairy tales the blame is always placed on the wicked stepmother for her treatment of the children. Why does the father gets a pass? He is actually the one breaking his covenant with his children, while the stepmother never had a covenant with the children. In my mind the father is most to blame for not protecting his children, yet culturally this "oversight" of male responsibilities continues to get a pass
Maybe mainstream sitcom's passive and foolhardy father's is as close as the collective has gotten? Maybe this is part of the fight against "The Patriarchy", the "white man", this anger at failing to care for "us"?
@@ConstantGardener-q9qYes indeed; I can see that too.
There are no father or stepmother, they are part of you mind.
@@Ching-Chong-Bing-Bongg the person from the main post can be seen that he is not a Jungian, that's why I answer in a language accessible to everyone.
What the hell are you even talking about? In how many stories are fathers getting a ''pass'' for re-marrying and allowing their children to be abused? In case you don't remember, Cinderella's father actually dies, which is why he can't protect her. And Snow White's father wouldn't have even been aware of the queen's actions. So that leaves what? Hansel and Gretel? Whose father abandoned them because his wife manipulated him while they were on the verge of starving? Yeah, that guys not winning father of the year, but how many cases even like that are there? I mean, look, just because your father sucked, that doesn't mean women are the eternal victims of men, exclusively. Women can be evil too, okay?
Hi, I'm here to say thank you guys and sending love 🙌💜. I listened to this episode on January and it helped me integrate the trauma caused by my father both physically and emotionally. This episode put me on the right path that led me to dream work, body work, writing and analysing my trauma in a safe way. My father in my dreams is a helpful protective figure and is by my side always and i have you to thank for that🌹.
Keep up the good work.
You are so welcome
I’m so happy to have stumbled upon this video.
I don't think you ever completely shake this complex...it hides... best you can do is get by
Wow, amazingly talented & inspiring speakers. Thank you.
Identification w the aggressor has been seen in narcissistic relations. The made up go the opposite way (a correction and want to be opposite of the narcissistic controlling father). Those women w a negative father complex will search for a romantic partner who is protective , they will see the world as a place where ones needs cannot be met. A persecutory perspective will be seen.
Thanks!
Absolutely love listening to you.
I wish more on these were available from you guys
The puer or peter pan syndrome is seen in people who refuse to grow up. They demonstrate and adolescent emotional quality; some refuse to go get a job after graduation from college.
An absent father or hero father is difficult to talk or connect with.
You guys always talk about theories but never give much practical or general advice on how to deal with these things. Would be nice if you could. Most of us dont have the luxury to afford an analyst.
This is so important! Coming from an orthodox religious community, this was spot on. These dynamics are way more exaggerated here. The over bearing father figure is unexcapable. And the response in people is predictable, between those two dynamics.
Thank you very much for these 'Jungian Life' talks guys, while as a therapist myself and an in large part Jungian fellow traveller, they have helped clarify my own thinking as it relates to the topics that you have discussed in each of your excellent episodes. As for the dream analysis in this edition, there may perhaps be some slight commonality here with the great narration, "Der Manne Sippe" that the character Sieglinde provides in Act 1 of Wagner's opera, 'Die Walkure' - a scene in which she describes Wotan (your grungy and gingerbread colored coat wearing middle age man) being present at her wedding to Hunding - while it is also suggests some aspects of Wagner's 'Parsifal' (i.e. the Fisher King archetype)...Anyway, and as any grounded and good dream analysis would confirm, the themes and motifs which are contained within dreams are, in the end, all archetypally interrelated.
Great amplification!
Relate to the not caring anymore about society's norms, in this age. Just as you lovely ladies, I do not color all these silver and white streaks. It annoys my cosmetologist daughter, but it's my damn head! 😅
Very interesting as a psychotherapist. Tbe absent or hypercritical father causes one to seek out a father figure who might be accepting.
The only thing I would caution is fairy tales and narcissistic relations w magical thinking. (Reality testing,judgment all ego functions). We want the ego to integrate+ and - introjects and thus not resort to splitting.
Brilliant episode, thank you so much for your invaluable insights !
Can a "monster" a negative father complex arise in the girl child from the mother's animus?
Everyone has daddy issues. Fathers are the most complicated puzzle to resolve. Full stop. Thank you for “ambulating “ around the Dad. It’s so complicated 🤨
I was enjoyed...my momma always delighted in me. I had the opposite in a father...stern with homework criticism.
all of them provide insight... no one provides solutionnnnn clearllllyyyyyy ...
Great dream and analysis!
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When the ego identifies with the child complex it’s so painful she’ll abuse people the way her father did to her because she’s possessed by that complex. We become our own perpetrator. The boy can actually co-opt and merge with the father complex. It’s less permitted to become conscious in the woman. Like the boy will not merge the negative Mother complex The girl will not merge the negative father complex.
Jung as a one-man primal horde... Nice!
I would avoid any euphimisms about the chinoo giving the others the key to vring him down to size, its too similar to parental rescue fantasy which only further destroys a childs life. If you have an abusive harmful parent you will have to consider leaving.
does anyone have any good jungian book recommendations on better understanding / healing from the negative father complex?
They spoke of "Iron John", by Robert Bly (Interview with Bill Moyer on YT). I found it a fascinating read and fairy tale (Grimms Brothers). Did it help me to heal my Father Wounds? Not a clue, but it surely resonated. I'm glad to see the question, as I haven't read it in some time, and this was perhaps Synchronistic?!
Also, James Hollis a Jungian Analyst and author who has been involved in The Minnesota Men's Conference (A channel on YT which features many videos which you might find helpful/interesting), comes to mind , might have books of interest. Robert Lee, has his own website (also found on Minnesota Men's Conference) is a therapist and author working with men. Hope this is useful.
I had a dream that I was explaining IFS to a criminal, weird man that I was stuck with. I was trying to make him better because I was afraid of him. I don't know if this was my own Animus, my Father, my fear of men or some combination of all three
Do you view this destructive rage towards the therapist as projective identification?
I love how Joseph kept pulling back from the prematurely positive in validating the tremendous difficulty of taking on a monstrous father complex 🥹 thank you
Do you all take clients from online?
Hi Delenn,
Thank you for your interest in analytic sessions. You can reach out to any of us individually here: www.thisjungianlife.com/about-joe-lisa-and-deb/ Since each of us shape our private practice uniquely, I'd suggest following your intuition toward the specific analyst you wish to consult.
@@thisjungianlifeI too am deeply interested in working with one of you. Upon clicking the link however, I'm not seeing any information surrounding your private practice. Lisa-I see the link to your book. Joe- I see what you specialize in as well as publications and Deborah -I'm not seeing any link connected with your private practice
Is there perhaps an email that I could correspond with either of you to set up a consultation?
I’m enjoying your videos immensely and learning more succinctly from your discussions than I did through 2 years of Jungian training! Could you tell me the name of the Algonquin fairy tale mentioned with regards to the monster ‘father’?
Damn! I was "brainwashing" myself with an audio book of Answer to Job, I downloaded it to my RUclips premium account, and listened to on repeat for over a week. Yesterday, I started to listened to it at 1.25 faster speed my whole work day; 5am-3pm. Today, I woke up on my day off and found it has been erased from RUclips completely. They even took it outta my downloads. Hmmm... I hate reading now cuz I get too into it, absorb too much outta it, and think beyond the edge of the ledge of the knowable. However, I am NOW gonna have to read this damn book. My plan was to imbibe it a month. It is the last key to unlocking my Dark Jungian final analysis and unleashing raw Shadow onto society... beyond commercial interests, marketing schemes, academic credibility.... is .... we shall see. I know why you guys can't delve this deep, who would be your customers if you put as much time into this piece as much as advertising?
"In the name of Light, who are you?"
[The Eagle of the Ninth, Rosemary Sutcliff, 1954]
"Ads are not meant for conscious consumption." MCLUHAN
(dare I inject, neither is making them?) Shhh
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what is a puair as she describes at 22:40
Puer is like Peter Pan Syndrome; the boy who is challenged to achieve manhood.
@@Eric-tj3tg I actually figured this one out. Your not wrong. But it is the feminine version
@@andrew1898 You worded that kindly; thank you for the kind correction.
@@Eric-tj3tg of course. No need to be rude. You weren't incorrect. I was just confused originally about the derivative of the word. One is masculine one is feminine both speak of the same topic.
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This was great until the dream analysis part. Y’all kinda lost me there!
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Omg, single @ 60 bec of dad issues.
I do not understand this at all
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