Nice one Sam. I was lucky enough to see MR 1000 when she was still running specials in the 70's, she had a very distinctive sound. In service those compounds were remarkable performers, in the 1920's, before the Royal Scots, they were the main LMS express loco, and on the West Coast mainline were in direct competition with the A1/A3s on the ECML. And despite facing a slightly longer and hillier route put in London to Scotland runs that matched the LNER for timings. They often worked double headed, a legacy of the Midlands infamous small engine policy that hamstrung the LMS in its early years. Their finest hour was on April 27, 1928, three days before the LNER started non-stop runs to Edinburgh when no 1054 at the head of the Royal Scot (the train, not the loco) covered the 399.7 miles to Edinburgh, non-stop, and with out a crew change. (another so called first for the A3's that is unjustly claimed) Anyway smashing model, shame about that wobbly tender, I wonder if thats a one off fault or are they all like that, Have a great week Jon
I always loved the compounds. At 76 I still have a Trix Twin Railways compound that was my 12th birthday present! It still works but is very much a toy train with very small driving wheels and not much detail. It doesn't hold a candle to the Hornby 2P 4-4-0 which I also have though that is from a completely different era of railway modelling. I remember travelling from Leicester to St. Pancras behind a compound in about 1960 when a black 5 failed and that was a real highlight of my younger years. The sound of a compound in full flight down Sharnbrook Bank is something I will never forget! At only 2 beats to a revolution of the driving wheels they had a syncopated beat unlike any other loco. They also sounded good pulling away as a 3 cylinder simple. For anyone wanting to know how they sounded there used to be a Transacord 45rpm extended play record which is probably on the Internet by now as a soundtrack. I'm glad to see Hornby have built the compound as they were a distinctive LMS loco of my childhood and bring back some happy memories!
Absolutely love the clean look of this locomotive. I am from the U.S. , I love all steam locomotives , but I have to say British engines are elegant and robust. Pure ,blunt and true. Great review Sam.
So this is interesting - I noticed your poll about the music. I notice recently you have been including a 'pre-amble' with a bit of the trains running beforehand. I think actually opening on the box is more effective structurally, because the unboxing and subsequent running session at the end is more enticing, and a 'reward' for viewing the initial build-up. The introduction graphic you have of the carriages, for me, does the same job as the pre-amble. Also, all your viewers probably enjoy the sound of carriages click-clacking, but not all of them will enjoy the same type of music, so it's harder to gauge (no pun intended), whether this will be cloying or bring the viewer in. Just something to mull over. Some lovely crisp shots as always.
Hi Luke, thanks very much for the feedback - I will definitely take that into consideration! That being said - only a tiny percentage of viewers actually reach the 'reward' running session, so the initial taster was to entice people to stay for the rest! I've been making an effort to improve audience retention lately, so to start with the more interesting portion seemed like a good way to do that - and I have seen improvements so far! You are right about hearing the click-clacking though, I may scrap the music for the main running session! All the best, Sam :)
Hi Ian, yeah it's quite odd - I think they've only done the black more recently! Glad to hear you got one - the Red version is definitely the better one for detail, glad you were happy with it, All the best, Sam :)
Hope i'm not too late :D. Trainspotting time: I saw your Hornby Railroad Lner flying Scotsman, your Hornby Railroad lms black 5, your Hornby Railroad southern schools class, your Hornby Railroad tts Crosti boiler 9f, your Hornby ex lms Brunswick green patriot ( i know why ;D ) and your Bachmann Ex lms Brunswick green Jubilee class. The odd one out was the Jubilee class, because 1). it was Bachmann and 2). it wasn't a Railroad model. The big clue might have been the weathering. Great vid Sam still loving the vids Keep it up :)
I wonder if it's only me thinking this, but I feel that the tender is rather tall for the locomotive? On the white background it really did look quite large compared to the engine itself. Top notch review again mate!
Hi mate, yeah you're right I think - I found that it doesn't really match! I think the original Hornby tender for the compound wasn't as tall, and looked better! Glad you enjoyed the review, All the best, Sam :)
#1000 was built at Derby Works on November 30th, 1902 for the Midland Railway. It became LMS #1000 in 1923. Before the Jubilees, Royal Scots, and Patriots came, the LMS used these engines as their main express passenger engines. #1000 later became British Railways #41000 in 1948 and it was withdrawn from service on Halloween, 1951 (completing nearly 50 years of service). Instead of being scrapped, #1000 was chosen for preservation. It was restored in 1959 to it's 1914 appearance and was based at Barrow Hill Shed. It's now on display at the National Railway Museum in York.
If you ask me 45 quid fora real nice model especially by Hornby I think that's a good deal. I know the pound to dollar ratio isn't like it was a decade ago when I was at RAF Mildenhall but point is that isn't a bad price. It's charming, has character, well made and price was set real great. Over well done Sam, cheers from Missouri. Andy
Hi Andy, yeah you're absolutely right - you just can't go wrong with this for £45! And it's so much more interesting than than the basic Jinty, which costs a similar price! All the best, Sam :)
I saw your railroad flying scotsman, black 5, schools class, br crosti 9f and your Bachmann ( not railroad) jubilee class. oh plus love your channel and your videos 😄
LMS #1072 was built at Derby Works on September 30th, 1924. It became BR #41072 in 1948 and it was withdrawn from service on Halloween night, 1955. It was cut up at Derby Works at the age of 31.
Nice video, nice review. Does Hornby railroad mean cheap, low quality, old mechanism locomotive? So the good ones are called hornby railways? Thank you sam. Cheers!
This is a really nice model, tender is a problem tho. I'm sure you can fix that with a few coins. They really help when it comes to weighing things down.
Thanks very much for the comment! Yeah a few coins would definitely help - but you've still got that issue of it pivoting on the centre axle - no idea how to fix that really! All the best, Sam :)
The non railroad engines are the Bachmann Schools class and the one at 13:03 wich i cant remember the class of! Nah, just joking, its a Cow Class!! The best 0-4-0. its and 0-4-0 since it doesnt have a leading truck, 4 legs and then no trailing truck!!
Thanks a lot Oksar, really glad you liked her! Wow - I think you might be my first sweedish commentor! :D and haha! The cow class ;) Yeah technically it's an 0-4-0 - or maybe a 2-0-2, since it actually has no driving wheels, it's purely cow powered ;D All the best, Sam :)
haha mooo! And yes that's right - very well spotted! I don't know whether I could have spotted that, had I not known it was that one! All the best, Sam :)
Nice review Sam, yes that tender is a puzzle, Railroad models are "supposed" to be good runners. The dimensions of the tender also bother me, especially the wheelbase of the axles, they look too close together. Your Crab loco has the Fowler tender aswell, I wouldn't question the dimensions of that one, it looks "right" from the "off". : ) Cheers, Cliff.
Thanks a lot Cliff, yeah it's a very odd one - and I agree that the wheelbase is very odd - but the moulded axle boxes seem to match the position of the axles, so perhaps it's a fundamental flaw? All the best, Sam :)
I wonder if they have "really fluffed" the tender on this one, plenty of rivets, but questionable dimensions plus that low centre axle. Perhaps it's one of those "Friday afternoon" jobs. :/ Yours, Cliff.
haha yeah I think that's what definitely happened - it's strange that they would swap the tender in the first place - since that wasn't the tender they used to use for this loco - who knows? Cheers, Sam :)
I have an unopened tenderdrive version in BR black. How does the body compare with the new version? I'm also guessing the tenderdrive is more powerful.
Yeah the older ones are actually a bit more reliable on performance - and the detail is slightly better on the old versions too - some of them even have basic painted cab detail! Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Seems a shame about that rocking tender, I have an 80s king class where the middle axel of the tender are just kinda loose and just rest on the track with the front and rear wheels supporting the weight, I feel that would have made more sense on this train too? Still nice review, I always like your reviews :P
Hi! Thanks for the comment - yeah it's a real shame, and what you suggested would have been much better - at least that way all the wheels would be going around! Thanks though, really glad you liked the review, Sam :)
Have you considered the Bachmann Midland Compound? I have the NRM one, far more detailed than Hornby's, and more expensive. The black ones have the same backhead detail as the NRM one, I saw. I think they're on ebay in the low 100s.
Hi David, thanks a lot for the comment - I would love one, but I think £170 is insulting for something like that - If they ever come down to say £120, then maybe! ;) All the best, Sam :)
I agree the tender is very light and it seems flimsy. I broke it though and I am trying to get a replacement 68£ at hattons now. Can you put some weight in the tender?
@@SamsTrains just ordered another one. My brother bought me it for christmas and I didnt tell him I broke it. So he won't know. He bought me a class 73 which I also broke and secretly replaced. You get attached to them don't you. I now have 4 collette engines and I just love them I'm obsessed. Have you reviewed one, I have mine pulling 9 coaches
I am very confused how your midland compound actually runs. Mine is so light to the point where it cannot even pull itself, let alone a coach. I have mine in red, im so confused as to how yours runs so easily, and pulls quite a bit.
Hi Sam, it's a nice looking loco, the Railroad range offers the same or better level of quality that we had in the 80s on the best there was so I am always happy with it. However that rocking tender is a very poor show, not heard if it before. Wonder if Hornby would swap the tender over for you?
Hi Mike, thanks a lot for the comment! I love the railroad range too - absolutely nothing wrong with it in my view! Yeah the tender is definitely very dodgy - I need to check whether the one on my patriot is the same. I don't know whether it's too late in the day to contact Hornby about it, since I bought this at Christmas! Either way, they didn't help me before, so I wouldn't have high hopes anyhow. Thanks for watching mate, Sam :)
Hi Sam, I have been doing a bit of research and the middle wheels on the tender should sit almost off the rails, so higher into the tender, are yours jammed or free turning, can they be encouraged to move in a little more I wonder?
Yeah that's the thing - they do seem to be free wheeling, so I'm not too sure about it - I will take another look though, to see if there's something easily correctable! All the best, Sam :)
Hi mate, this one is loco driven - only the very oldest maroon version was tender driven! But yes - for the old ones the loco had a fair bit of weight! Now they're loco driven, it's the tender that's very light! All the best, Sam :)
Hi mate, yes I've done a review on the D49, here it is: ruclips.net/video/4DdMxWDEfjc/видео.html I'm also reviewing the black version soon too, All the best, Sam :)
You can't really with DC, unless you use multiple tracks like mine, or use blocking sections - that can be quite complex though! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam'sTrains thanks i might look into that oh and I almost forgot what dcc controller is the best value in your opinion because I've seen ones at sub $100 for you I'd guess around £95 but also some for $200 or £190
Hmm, I'd say that's about right - they sell the Evening Star over here for about £100 too, though they are cheaper if you shop around! All the best, Sam :)
What ho, Sam! Railroad LMS Compound worth having then? Hatton's are selling them for £45, and i'm seriously considering it. Don't worry, i won't hold you personally responsible if it goes the same way as the Hall Class i bought ;P
Hehe...yes, you seem to like them well enough. I was a bit put off by the tender wheels on the black one, but it seems to go well enough on your layout...
Ye see, in my opinion, the tender looks a bit chunky and oversized for a Fowler tender on a Compound. I also think that they didn't get the wheelbase quite right, it's a bit short actually...
Yeah I agree with you there - I can't put my finger on it, but it just doesn't look right! That's true though - the wheelbase is pretty damn odd! All the best, Sam :)
A quandary - mark down for detail mis-match. Surprisingly controllable - tender might have problems on slopes. Overall, my opinion is you did well. Replacing tyres on a pair of my tenders that slip on steep slopes under load, so might try and duplicate your adaptations. Your intro and soundtrack - cheerful and I enjoy it - very high rating from me! Alan.
Hi Alan, thanks a lot for the comment mate - though actually this one is loco drive, not tender driven - so luckily traction isn't a problem with this! Really glad you liked the video with the new music and such, I still need to work on the format really! All the best, Sam :)
Maybe its just me but i think u'd really should add some basic technical detail to the engine's history like: max speed, indicated power, and weight/axle load (since wiki only has tractive effort under performance figures, so i have no ide what the real engines could do).
Hi Kevin, thanks for the feedback - duly noted! I'm considering scrapping the second music section in the future, to favour the train sound! All the best, Sam :)
I have a County class loco (3 of 1908 in the 1908 London Olympics set) and for the life of me I can't get the tender body to come off for DCC chipping. I'm terrified of breaking the poor girl!
I spotted Flying Scotsman, Royal Scott, Black 5, Jubilee, Crosti 9F and what looked like the Schools Class Engine hiding behind the pub. I like the two red no. 1000 Compound engines more than the black one. I know you have the Prussian Blue liveried Jinty in your collection. I've bought a new model engine in the same livery. It is the 4-4-0 2P Tender Engine, and the last one in the cabinet of Llangollen Station Shop status. I bought her for £75.99, but will not test her till I move home. Do you have a Prussian Blue 2P Tender Engine yourself? Mine is no. 44. If you happen to find one among your throng of engines, I'd like to see a review of it very much and a running session of course. I'd give your black Compound Engine 8 out of 10, to give it some credit.
haha I know! That would be awesome! How theirs worked is they had a special offer or competition every day - and if you were interested, you could do it! All the best, Sam :)
Hey Sam I have a request for you. if you like fast and modern engines with propellers than you will love this one. It's called Marklin 37777 DRG rail zeppelin it's a diesel engine with a propeller and let me know if there is a Hornby or a Bachmann onethank you and you are my
Okay! Thanks very much for the suggestion - I'll definitely have a look at getting one of those! :D Thank you too - that's very kind of you! :D Cheers, Sam :)
hi sam’s trains i really like your videos and i also like review locomotive videos i have 3 hornby locomotives 1 railroad a1 flying scotsman and a br blue flying scotsman and mainland compound with the Fowler tender 1072 and 3 lner teak. coaches and one Pullman Break car ps i really enjoy your videos keep up the good work my friend hope you are staying safe
Hi Alfie! Although I think Bachmann produce better models, I'd still pick Hornby - it doesn't make much sense, but I just prefer working with Hornby locos! And okay, I'll look at getting a class 56! :D Cheers, Sam :)
for 45 pounds you can't go wrong !! just a shame about the tender , could you add in some weight to keep the wheels down ?? over all she seems like a great model though - all the best mate :)
Absolutely - it's great value! Yeah a little more weight would definitely help - but because of the way it pivots on the centre axel, you'd only get 4 wheels on the track at one time - which is better than just 2, but still not great! Glad you liked it anyway, Cheers, Sam :)
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Nice one Sam. I was lucky enough to see MR 1000 when she was still running specials in the 70's, she had a very distinctive sound.
In service those compounds were remarkable performers, in the 1920's, before the Royal Scots, they were the main LMS express loco, and on the West Coast mainline were in direct competition with the A1/A3s on the ECML. And despite facing a slightly longer and hillier route put in London to Scotland runs that matched the LNER for timings. They often worked double headed, a legacy of the Midlands infamous small engine policy that hamstrung the LMS in its early years. Their finest hour was on April 27, 1928, three days before the LNER started non-stop runs to Edinburgh when no 1054 at the head of the Royal Scot (the train, not the loco) covered the 399.7 miles to Edinburgh, non-stop, and with out a crew change. (another so called first for the A3's that is unjustly claimed)
Anyway smashing model, shame about that wobbly tender, I wonder if thats a one off fault or are they all like that,
Have a great week
Jon
I always loved the compounds. At 76 I still have a Trix Twin Railways compound that was my 12th birthday present! It still works but is very much a toy train with very small driving wheels and not much detail. It doesn't hold a candle to the Hornby 2P 4-4-0 which I also have though that is from a completely different era of railway modelling.
I remember travelling from Leicester to St. Pancras behind a compound in about 1960 when a black 5 failed and that was a real highlight of my younger years. The sound of a compound in full flight down Sharnbrook Bank is something I will never forget! At only 2 beats to a revolution of the driving wheels they had a syncopated beat unlike any other loco. They also sounded good pulling away as a 3 cylinder simple. For anyone wanting to know how they sounded there used to be a Transacord 45rpm extended play record which is probably on the Internet by now as a soundtrack.
I'm glad to see Hornby have built the compound as they were a distinctive LMS loco of my childhood and bring back some happy memories!
Absolutely love the clean look of this locomotive. I am from the U.S. , I love all steam locomotives , but I have to say British engines are elegant and robust. Pure ,blunt and true. Great review Sam.
Absolutely love it yet again smashing review Sam keep it up
Thanks so much for your support as always Liam,
All the best,
Sam :)
So this is interesting - I noticed your poll about the music. I notice recently you have been including a 'pre-amble' with a bit of the trains running beforehand. I think actually opening on the box is more effective structurally, because the unboxing and subsequent running session at the end is more enticing, and a 'reward' for viewing the initial build-up. The introduction graphic you have of the carriages, for me, does the same job as the pre-amble. Also, all your viewers probably enjoy the sound of carriages click-clacking, but not all of them will enjoy the same type of music, so it's harder to gauge (no pun intended), whether this will be cloying or bring the viewer in. Just something to mull over. Some lovely crisp shots as always.
Hi Luke, thanks very much for the feedback - I will definitely take that into consideration!
That being said - only a tiny percentage of viewers actually reach the 'reward' running session, so the initial taster was to entice people to stay for the rest! I've been making an effort to improve audience retention lately, so to start with the more interesting portion seemed like a good way to do that - and I have seen improvements so far!
You are right about hearing the click-clacking though, I may scrap the music for the main running session!
All the best,
Sam :)
I ordered one of these, and its arriving tomorrow! I cant wait to run it!
That’s awesome Fuzzy, really hope you enjoy it! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Lovely engine didn't know they came in black. I bought a Lms 1000 compound in red after seeing your review. It preformed great my club layout.
Hi Ian, yeah it's quite odd - I think they've only done the black more recently! Glad to hear you got one - the Red version is definitely the better one for detail, glad you were happy with it,
All the best,
Sam :)
Yes think your right the red one is better looking. Well please with it.
Hope i'm not too late :D. Trainspotting time: I saw your Hornby Railroad Lner flying Scotsman, your Hornby Railroad lms black 5, your Hornby Railroad southern schools class, your Hornby Railroad tts Crosti boiler 9f, your Hornby ex lms Brunswick green patriot ( i know why ;D ) and your Bachmann Ex lms Brunswick green Jubilee class.
The odd one out was the Jubilee class, because 1). it was Bachmann and 2). it wasn't a Railroad model. The big clue might have been the weathering.
Great vid Sam still loving the vids Keep it up :)
Hi mate, not at all - feel free to comment whenever you like! And very good work trainspotting - I think that's the lot!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
I wonder if it's only me thinking this, but I feel that the tender is rather tall for the locomotive? On the white background it really did look quite large compared to the engine itself. Top notch review again mate!
Hi mate, yeah you're right I think - I found that it doesn't really match! I think the original Hornby tender for the compound wasn't as tall, and looked better!
Glad you enjoyed the review,
All the best,
Sam :)
#1000 was built at Derby Works on November 30th, 1902 for the Midland Railway. It became LMS #1000 in 1923. Before the Jubilees, Royal Scots, and Patriots came, the LMS used these engines as their main express passenger engines. #1000 later became British Railways #41000 in 1948 and it was withdrawn from service on Halloween, 1951 (completing nearly 50 years of service). Instead of being scrapped, #1000 was chosen for preservation. It was restored in 1959 to it's 1914 appearance and was based at Barrow Hill Shed. It's now on display at the National Railway Museum in York.
Thanks again for the info - yeah 1000 is a very lovely locomotive, I think I've seen it in real life too! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Great video Sam I'm looking into buying it . Cheers
Thanks mate! I can recommend these! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Nice vid mate! My cat and I really enjoy your vids! I think you were a tad generous on the scores if I'm honest. :)
Thanks very much my friend - I appreciate that! Okay, duly noted - I'll try not to be too generous in the future!!
All the best,
Sam :)
The tender looks lovely...
Yes the best of this loco!
Thanks mate, yeah it is a lovely tender that one!
All the best,
Sam :)
great video. i do like the midland compound I just wish the NRM would consider overhauling it and getting it running again
Thanks a lot! Yeah me too - It'd be lovely to have a ride on one of those! :D
All the best,
Sam :)
Another great video!
Thanks very much - glad you enjoyed it! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
If you ask me 45 quid fora real nice model especially by Hornby I think that's a good deal. I know the pound to dollar ratio isn't like it was a decade ago when I was at RAF Mildenhall but point is that isn't a bad price. It's charming, has character, well made and price was set real great. Over well done Sam, cheers from Missouri.
Andy
Hi Andy, yeah you're absolutely right - you just can't go wrong with this for £45! And it's so much more interesting than than the basic Jinty, which costs a similar price!
All the best,
Sam :)
Hmmm tender engine vs tank for the same price. Man what a hard choice
Best review ,now I will buy this locomotive 👍
Thanks a lot - yeah they're decent starter models! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great engine, the tender looks nice too
Thanks a lot Sean, glad you liked her!
Cheers,
Sam :)
I saw your railroad flying scotsman, black 5, schools class, br crosti 9f and your Bachmann ( not railroad) jubilee class.
oh plus love your channel and your videos 😄
Very well done - yeah that's the lot I think!! :D
Thanks so much - I'm really glad you do!
Cheers,
Sam :)
LOVE THE MODEL SAM and yes I always love vids with music so #keepitup!:)
Thanks so much mate, really glad you liked the music - I think I will be keeping it in!
All the best,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains well I will sure to get this model!!
Cheers
-Nigel Gresly 🚂
very nice model mate (I guess you know why I like these!)
haha thanks mate! haha yeah I think you made it clear ;D
Thanks again for watching matey,
Sam :)
your welcome mate!
LMS #1072 was built at Derby Works on September 30th, 1924. It became BR #41072 in 1948 and it was withdrawn from service on Halloween night, 1955. It was cut up at Derby Works at the age of 31.
Blimey! There's quite a few that got withdrawn on Halloween, isn't there??
Thanks for the info,
Sam :)
They really improved this - Although I still think the Bachmann one has the edge on it still in terms of detail.
Yeah it's really not bad! But definitely - the Bachmann one is miles better for detail!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
I really want to get this model soooo bad!!! Shes a beauty!
I can highly recommend it mate - they're cheap, and they're awesome runners! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Nice video, nice review. Does Hornby railroad mean cheap, low quality, old mechanism locomotive?
So the good ones are called hornby railways?
Thank you sam. Cheers!
Thanks mate! Not quite - mechanically they're usually very sound, but yes they're more basic!
Merry Christmas,
Sam :)
The assembly just behind the smokebox is the large and small vacuum ejectors
Duly noted, thanks very much for the info!
Cheers,
Sam :)
love the model
Thanks a lot - it is a very lovely one!
Cheers,
Sam :)
I've got a Hornby Railroad compound in the same livery. But it also has traction tyres though.
Ahh yeah - it's a shame about the tyres - but at least they pull well! :D
Happy New Year,
Sam :)
This is a really nice model, tender is a problem tho. I'm sure you can fix that with a few coins. They really help when it comes to weighing things down.
Thanks very much for the comment! Yeah a few coins would definitely help - but you've still got that issue of it pivoting on the centre axle - no idea how to fix that really!
All the best,
Sam :)
Hey sam, its a good model its just 45 pounds! I wish i could find a new N scale model for that money! Great video!
it has a nice wheel configration sam its ashame its railroad would be nice for a preamem one but hay still good
sam
Ah yes! The compound, the most beautiful brittish 4-4-0 in my opinion! Oh btw, country reveal, im one of your few swedish viewers!!!
The non railroad engines are the Bachmann Schools class and the one at 13:03 wich i cant remember the class of! Nah, just joking, its a Cow Class!! The best 0-4-0. its and 0-4-0 since it doesnt have a leading truck, 4 legs and then no trailing truck!!
Thanks a lot Oksar, really glad you liked her! Wow - I think you might be my first sweedish commentor! :D
and haha! The cow class ;) Yeah technically it's an 0-4-0 - or maybe a 2-0-2, since it actually has no driving wheels, it's purely cow powered ;D
All the best,
Sam :)
13:03 is my favourite loco and the Bachmann jubilee class is the non railroad loco:)
haha mooo! And yes that's right - very well spotted! I don't know whether I could have spotted that, had I not known it was that one!
All the best,
Sam :)
awesome loco, awesome video, thanks Sam 😊, oskar
Thanks so much Oskar, really glad you liked her - all the best mate,
Sam :)
You should put a tanker between the tender and the first coach to make it look like the tanker is supplying extra water to the Loco for longer trips
That's a cool idea - was that really a thing?
Thanks for watching mate,
Sam :)
Nice review Sam, yes that tender is a puzzle, Railroad models are "supposed" to be good runners. The dimensions of the tender also bother me, especially the wheelbase of the axles, they look too close together. Your Crab loco has the Fowler tender aswell, I wouldn't question the dimensions of that one, it looks "right" from the "off". : )
Cheers, Cliff.
Thanks a lot Cliff, yeah it's a very odd one - and I agree that the wheelbase is very odd - but the moulded axle boxes seem to match the position of the axles, so perhaps it's a fundamental flaw?
All the best,
Sam :)
I wonder if they have "really fluffed" the tender on this one, plenty of rivets, but questionable dimensions plus that low centre axle. Perhaps it's one of those "Friday afternoon" jobs. :/
Yours, Cliff.
haha yeah I think that's what definitely happened - it's strange that they would swap the tender in the first place - since that wasn't the tender they used to use for this loco - who knows?
Cheers,
Sam :)
Beautiful model! Didn't you know the preserved one is the first built? Wouldn't it be nice to see her in steam again?
Thanks Ryno! No I didn't realise that - that's very cool though! Yeah it'd be lovely to have a ride behind one of these!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
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I have an unopened tenderdrive version in BR black. How does the body compare with the new version? I'm also guessing the tenderdrive is more powerful.
Yeah the older ones are actually a bit more reliable on performance - and the detail is slightly better on the old versions too - some of them even have basic painted cab detail!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Seems a shame about that rocking tender, I have an 80s king class where the middle axel of the tender are just kinda loose and just rest on the track with the front and rear wheels supporting the weight, I feel that would have made more sense on this train too?
Still nice review, I always like your reviews :P
Hi! Thanks for the comment - yeah it's a real shame, and what you suggested would have been much better - at least that way all the wheels would be going around!
Thanks though, really glad you liked the review,
Sam :)
Have you considered the Bachmann Midland Compound? I have the NRM one, far more detailed than Hornby's, and more expensive. The black ones have the same backhead detail as the NRM one, I saw. I think they're on ebay in the low 100s.
Yes I have considered it! I've never bought one so far, but I'd like to one day - I've heard that they are good!
Thanks a lot for the comment,
Sam :)
Hey Sam just want to ask will you be getting the new merchant navy un rebuilt
I know I will anyway good video
Hi David, thanks a lot for the comment - I would love one, but I think £170 is insulting for something like that - If they ever come down to say £120, then maybe! ;)
All the best,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains oh alright but then again it has just been released
I agree the tender is very light and it seems flimsy. I broke it though and I am trying to get a replacement 68£ at hattons now. Can you put some weight in the tender?
Ahh sorry to hear that - you could put weight in the tender if you wanted to! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains just ordered another one. My brother bought me it for christmas and I didnt tell him I broke it. So he won't know. He bought me a class 73 which I also broke and secretly replaced. You get attached to them don't you. I now have 4 collette engines and I just love them I'm obsessed. Have you reviewed one, I have mine pulling 9 coaches
I am very confused how your midland compound actually runs. Mine is so light to the point where it cannot even pull itself, let alone a coach. I have mine in red, im so confused as to how yours runs so easily, and pulls quite a bit.
Hi Sam, it's a nice looking loco, the Railroad range offers the same or better level of quality that we had in the 80s on the best there was so I am always happy with it. However that rocking tender is a very poor show, not heard if it before. Wonder if Hornby would swap the tender over for you?
Hi Mike, thanks a lot for the comment! I love the railroad range too - absolutely nothing wrong with it in my view! Yeah the tender is definitely very dodgy - I need to check whether the one on my patriot is the same. I don't know whether it's too late in the day to contact Hornby about it, since I bought this at Christmas! Either way, they didn't help me before, so I wouldn't have high hopes anyhow.
Thanks for watching mate,
Sam :)
Hi Sam, I have been doing a bit of research and the middle wheels on the tender should sit almost off the rails, so higher into the tender, are yours jammed or free turning, can they be encouraged to move in a little more I wonder?
Yeah that's the thing - they do seem to be free wheeling, so I'm not too sure about it - I will take another look though, to see if there's something easily correctable!
All the best,
Sam :)
lovely intro for this
Thanks very much, glad you liked it!
Cheers,
Sam :)
I don't have a tender driven locomotive so I've been wanting to know is there a weight in the actual locomotive thanks
Hi mate, this one is loco driven - only the very oldest maroon version was tender driven! But yes - for the old ones the loco had a fair bit of weight! Now they're loco driven, it's the tender that's very light!
All the best,
Sam :)
its a great loco, currently selling for about £51 from kernow. compare that with a 0 4 at about £30. mine runs really well, enen on my boxfile layout
Thanks Andy - yeah for that price it's hard to complain!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam if you haven't done a review on the d49 do you think you might be able to do one please.
Hi mate, yes I've done a review on the D49, here it is:
ruclips.net/video/4DdMxWDEfjc/видео.html
I'm also reviewing the black version soon too,
All the best,
Sam :)
Hiya Sam, I need help choosing my locos for my early 50`s LMS Layout, could you reccommend this loco?
Ooh tricky! Yeah, if you're on a budget, these are perfectly! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wait how do u get DC work without moving the other locomotives by the way great video
You can't really with DC, unless you use multiple tracks like mine, or use blocking sections - that can be quite complex though!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains thanks i might look into that oh and I almost forgot what dcc controller is the best value in your opinion because I've seen ones at sub $100 for you I'd guess around £95 but also some for $200 or £190
Over in Ireland we have a similar loco called merlin, she's a pretty lady!
Ooh awesome - I like the sound of that! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
for a hornby 0-4-0 in New Zealand is 40 pound and the railroad evening star is 100 pound
Hmm, I'd say that's about right - they sell the Evening Star over here for about £100 too, though they are cheaper if you shop around!
All the best,
Sam :)
What great value for money, especially when you consider the price Hornby are charging for their 0-4-0s (£32.99)!
Yeah absolutely! And for an extra £10, you get the tender, and all that lovely loco!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
I like the music at the beginning of the video
Thanks very much, I'm glad you do! :D
All the best,
Sam :)
What ho, Sam! Railroad LMS Compound worth having then? Hatton's are selling them for £45, and i'm seriously considering it. Don't worry, i won't hold you personally responsible if it goes the same way as the Hall Class i bought ;P
Hi Adrian - yes I think so - they're really good for the money, as you can tell! hehe
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Hehe...yes, you seem to like them well enough. I was a bit put off by the tender wheels on the black one, but it seems to go well enough on your layout...
Ye see, in my opinion, the tender looks a bit chunky and oversized for a Fowler tender on a Compound. I also think that they didn't get the wheelbase quite right, it's a bit short actually...
Yeah I agree with you there - I can't put my finger on it, but it just doesn't look right! That's true though - the wheelbase is pretty damn odd!
All the best,
Sam :)
A quandary - mark down for detail mis-match. Surprisingly controllable - tender might have problems on slopes. Overall, my opinion is you did well. Replacing tyres on a pair of my tenders that slip on steep slopes under load, so might try and duplicate your adaptations. Your intro and soundtrack - cheerful and I enjoy it - very high rating from me! Alan.
Hi Alan, thanks a lot for the comment mate - though actually this one is loco drive, not tender driven - so luckily traction isn't a problem with this!
Really glad you liked the video with the new music and such, I still need to work on the format really!
All the best,
Sam :)
Where do you buy your steam locomotives and rolling stock
All over really! This particular one came straight from the Hornby website!
Cheers,
Sam :)
Thanks a lot 😀
Would you recommend this engine for a little line?
Yeah, not a shunting yard or anything, but a smaller branch line would be okay?
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Do you have the schools class sevenoaks because I have and also what year did you get that madel
No I don't have that one sadly - and this one I got just last year, in December! :D
All the best,
Sam :)
Maybe its just me but i think u'd really should add some basic technical detail to the engine's history like: max speed, indicated power, and weight/axle load (since wiki only has tractive effort under performance figures, so i have no ide what the real engines could do).
Yeah that's a nice idea - I'll consider doing that! Thanks for the suggestion,
Cheers,
Sam :)
You are so good I'm subscribing to you
Worth 45 quid sam its very nice 👍
I thought so too Ciaran!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I like the music, but maybe if it were a bit more subtle. I really like hearing the trains click along the track. But that's just me!
Hi Kevin, thanks for the feedback - duly noted! I'm considering scrapping the second music section in the future, to favour the train sound!
All the best,
Sam :)
Have you purchased any train sutff from Bure valley Models ( online shop )??? ,As they are having good offers !!
I don't think I have - thanks though, I'll look them up!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thanks for your reply
45 quid, you got a great deal there!
I have a County class loco (3 of 1908 in the 1908 London Olympics set) and for the life of me I can't get the tender body to come off for DCC chipping. I'm terrified of breaking the poor girl!
You need to use a flat-bladed screwdriver in the gap on the cab-end, and ease the body off - should come off quite easy!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I spotted Flying Scotsman, Royal Scott, Black 5, Jubilee, Crosti 9F and what looked like the Schools Class Engine hiding behind the pub. I like the two red no. 1000 Compound engines more than the black one. I know you have the Prussian Blue liveried Jinty in your collection. I've bought a new model engine in the same livery. It is the 4-4-0 2P Tender Engine, and the last one in the cabinet of Llangollen Station Shop status. I bought her for £75.99, but will not test her till I move home. Do you have a Prussian Blue 2P Tender Engine yourself? Mine is no. 44. If you happen to find one among your throng of engines, I'd like to see a review of it very much and a running session of course. I'd give your black Compound Engine 8 out of 10, to give it some credit.
Very well done as always Kelly - thanks for taking part! That's fair enough - and 8 sounds pretty fair! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Does anybody know if its a bad idea to put a loco back into the box without the plastic?
jurgen yes it is from my experience
Hi mate! No not really - as long as you're careful, it's fine! Obviously it's better with the plastic though! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Thanks, i was starting to worry that i was damaging my models, but now i know that is not the case. :D
Cheers to you to.
jurgen very sorry for worrying you
Can you do more tutorials on building/starting your own railway
Yeah I could do - what is it you'd like to know about?? :)
Cheers,
Sam :)
like Mabie the differences between dcc and dc and how to build scenery
Have a good time
You too Amy! :D
Mine doesnt have the weight problem
That's very good to hear - have fun with her mate! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
It was Bachman jubilee class
Well done again! :D
Beautifully Locomotive
Thanks a lot! Glad you like her! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Cheers
could make another video that doesn't have music at the start? please?
i love dcc ready locos
Me too - they're the best! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
13:00 do a review of that it is the most detailed loco i have ever seen!!!
haha, which one?? I didn't see any loco at 13:00 ;D
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
Sam'sTrains
the bullman
haha! oooooh, sorry - okay okay, maybe ;D
sweet
Thanks very much!
All the best,
Sam :)
a hornby advent callender now there's an idea, buy it for like £500 pounds and you get 20 trucks and 3 engines plus 2 unknown items!
haha I know! That would be awesome! How theirs worked is they had a special offer or competition every day - and if you were interested, you could do it!
All the best,
Sam :)
Hey Sam I have a request for you. if you like fast and modern engines with propellers than you will love this one. It's called Marklin 37777 DRG rail zeppelin it's a diesel engine with a propeller and let me know if there is a Hornby or a Bachmann onethank you and you are my
I accidentally didn't get to finish it but it's supposed to say thank you and you are my hero
Okay! Thanks very much for the suggestion - I'll definitely have a look at getting one of those! :D
Thank you too - that's very kind of you! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
how many engines do you have? :p
Hi! I have just over 200 locos at the moment! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
having seen bachmans version of this hornbys has always seemed rather underwhelming would love to see a hornby super detale model of this loco
Yeah you're right really - the Bachmann version is far superior! But then again, this is half the price - so not too bad!
Thanks for watching,
Sam :)
woahhh why is there no review of bullman
Well nobody can tell him what to do - he just won't let me review him, I have tried many times :/
Cheers,
Sam :)
well bullman needs a friend how about pigman or tetley
Hi sam'strians I have a one the Midland compound
Ooh awesome - they are lovely!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
hi sam’s trains i really like your videos and i also like review locomotive videos i have 3 hornby locomotives 1 railroad a1 flying scotsman and a br blue flying scotsman and mainland compound with the Fowler tender 1072 and 3 lner teak. coaches and one Pullman Break car ps i really enjoy your videos keep up the good work my friend hope you are staying safe
Looks just like Edward.
Yeah it does a little bit! Have a look at the D49, I think that's very similar! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Yes, she is quite similar to Edward but Edward is more close to the 2p.
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hi,. have a great day
Hi! You have a great day too! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
who misses when hornby painted wagon manually
haha! Me! But I fully understand that it's not a viable way to do things these days :/
All the best,
Sam :)
i pick hornby over bachmann but hornby has a mix of good and bad but if your lucky your get a class 56 #hornbybackinBritain
or better quality
Hi Alfie! Although I think Bachmann produce better models, I'd still pick Hornby - it doesn't make much sense, but I just prefer working with Hornby locos! And okay, I'll look at getting a class 56! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
as you know am a big fan of the rr steam locos but this one look a little odd
Thanks Adi, yeah I think you're right - maybe it's the tender that doesn't quite match??
Cheers,
Sam :)
The tender wheels look really close together that what it
Yeah you're right - that's exactly what I thought when I watched this back!
bit of a safety hazard there, bottle of water on the desk and right near the controls!
haha yeah that's me - always got a bottle of water handy! Don't worry though - the lid was on! ;D
Cheers,
Sam :)
74th! (I was down a mine) :)
Oooh okay! Which mine?? :D
Well done you by the way ;)
It's called Carrock mine in Cumbria. :)
11:30 Jubilee and Black 5.
Yep! Very well done - no idea how you recognised the jubilee from just that, but good one! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
It has a very obvious Stanier boiler, the firebox is too small to be a Royal Scot, and there are wheel arches on the running plate. :)
for 45 pounds you can't go wrong !! just a shame about the tender , could you add in some weight to keep the wheels down ?? over all she seems like a great model though - all the best mate :)
Absolutely - it's great value! Yeah a little more weight would definitely help - but because of the way it pivots on the centre axel, you'd only get 4 wheels on the track at one time - which is better than just 2, but still not great!
Glad you liked it anyway,
Cheers,
Sam :)
fore me the br black version.
Yeah I don't know actually - I really do like the black!
All the best,
Sam :)
Sam do you play minecraft
Yeah I do - I have a gigantic world there!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
12:45 9F
Yep! :D
When I say 9F I mean an ugly, mutated, piece of £$%& ;) I'm mostly joking. ;)
14:17 A1/A3
Yep the Scotsman! :D
13:14 Patriot
Yeah that's the one! :D
12:57 Schools class.
Yes again!
not first..
haha, no not quite - but thanks for coming anyway!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)