The Future of Meat

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  • @The-Rest-of-Us
    @The-Rest-of-Us  7 лет назад +344

    The future of meat production has become a topic close to my heart and it's one of those problems we need to solve as soon as possible. All of this starts with and is fuelled by more public awareness, so if you enjoyed the video, please share!

    • @sansamman4619
      @sansamman4619 7 лет назад +2

      the problem with cultured meat is that it will all have the same genes which will easily be affected by bacteria and diseased

    • @laud4064
      @laud4064 7 лет назад +2

      No, it's in a lab. It'll never be in a situation where it can be affected by those things.

    • @RockysLife
      @RockysLife 7 лет назад +1

      The Rest Of Us I liked this video
      I was just triggered when you compared meat farming to slavery...
      What are you trying to say about those who were captured as slaves? That they were animals??

    • @The-Rest-of-Us
      @The-Rest-of-Us  7 лет назад +16

      Are you joking? I even explained how I meant it: That it's something awful that a large part of society has come to accept as normal.

    • @RockysLife
      @RockysLife 7 лет назад +1

      The Rest Of Us Yeah you did I agree with that
      But.. that's how it sounds

  • @nigellllllllll
    @nigellllllllll 7 лет назад +749

    Along as it tastes the same as the real thing i'd eat and pay for it. Honestly wouldn't even care it was "Unnatural"

    • @redountilgreat
      @redountilgreat 7 лет назад

      Thank you for that. Maybe you are interested in this: ruclips.net/video/krRUOSDnau4/видео.html

    • @djordjerasic7482
      @djordjerasic7482 7 лет назад

      Nigel Newton yeah but it would give you many diseases and it would be muh more unhealthy

    • @nigellllllllll
      @nigellllllllll 7 лет назад +60

      Djordje Rasic If its made in a lab environment I doubt ill get any diseases. If its genetically the same theres no ways its worst for me, because its the same.

    • @pennymac16
      @pennymac16 7 лет назад +1

      +Nigel It probably wouldn't be worse, no. But who says it isn't bad already?

    • @nigellllllllll
      @nigellllllllll 7 лет назад +30

      The fact that I'm alive.

  • @goglejadnici
    @goglejadnici 7 лет назад +125

    Massive respect for making this video! Its only cars, coal plants, fossil fuels bla bla bla... but NO one is talking about animal agriculture and its effect on the environment.

    • @s.y.7866
      @s.y.7866 7 лет назад +1

      Snarky Edmonton Cyclist yes, that's what he said but you just worded it differently :/

    • @SiMeGamer
      @SiMeGamer 7 лет назад

      Aljosa Koledar
      First, unlike the energy problem we are facing that Elon Musk is helping to solve, agriculture is not in any state of collapse in the near or "medium" future (150 years or so let's say). So it is less of a problem.
      Second, people are talking about it all the time. As someone who doesn't really care as long as I can eat, it is actually very annoying. If you replace meat with "fake" meat, I'll eat it all the same. If somehow the world suddenly stops meat production and I am forced to eat only vegetarian/vegan food, so be it. I don't care enough to be actively involved with it.
      If that's something that matters to you enough, good for you. Keep at it. Most people are interested in bettering themselves/their family/their society/humanity as whole in different ways. Yes, this is a big problem but it's not something everyone should be focusing on. Same with clean renuiable energy. I care about it more than agriculture, but still not enough to take action in that direction.
      People should stop shoving agendas and simply just mention their world views so that in the back of our heads we are aware of these problems and act accordingly. Final note, this is all my opinion and I am not forcing it on anybody. Just hopefully giving another perspective :]

    • @magma2680
      @magma2680 6 лет назад +3

      SiMe so bassicaly you're doing nothing and don't care :)

    • @raylenn4444
      @raylenn4444 5 лет назад +1

      magma2680 just like me. except that i can't digest plant matter, so my alimentation is mainly carnivorous. one of the only plants i can eat are potatoes and tomato (i aon't joking) even if it gives me occasionnal stomachache. so yeah not only don't i care and do nothing, i can't live under a vegan world for it would mean that i starve to death. so yeah just give me cultured meat and we'll be good.

  • @hilariousharry1890
    @hilariousharry1890 7 лет назад +401

    Lol "in a nutshell" got me hard XD!!

    • @y__h
      @y__h 7 лет назад +8

      I hope he make a collab with them!

    • @mkd2839
      @mkd2839 7 лет назад +12

      Both are German!

    • @SomeSmallFish
      @SomeSmallFish 7 лет назад

      StardustNotHötzendorf you say you're Hötzendorf but you look an awful lot like Cadorna!

    • @hilariousharry1890
      @hilariousharry1890 7 лет назад +2

      StardustNotHötzendorf ich bin auch deutsch

    • @Ashutoshlakra
      @Ashutoshlakra 7 лет назад +1

      that would be awesome

  • @matevzvidovic6708
    @matevzvidovic6708 7 лет назад +504

    A very good video. I like that you talked about a real solution and didn't just say that everybody should stop eating meat. Cool content.

    • @lukamilic8503
      @lukamilic8503 7 лет назад +17

      Michael Schmitz making averyone vegetarian would be a good solution it is just impossible

    • @redountilgreat
      @redountilgreat 7 лет назад +13

      @Luka Milic impossible to do it over night? Sure! But at all! I really believe in, that this is the future - a vegan one not only a vegetarian one.

    • @cheddacheese8900
      @cheddacheese8900 7 лет назад +22

      Veganism is not expensive unless you're buying all kinds of meat substitutes and organic fruits and vegetables for sustenance. Beans and rice are extremely cheap and can provide you with most of your nutrition.

    • @SoyKhalid
      @SoyKhalid 7 лет назад +10

      1) Subjective, ergo, a biased argument.
      2) Delivery issues can be resolved by methodical and thorough calibration.
      3) True, but that does not negate the value of equally viable herbivore style of eating exist.
      4) The cost difference is largely attributed to governmental subsidies meat factory farms receive.
      5) It does not negate the merit and effectiveness of the existing alternatives.
      6) A good ole middle finger to society for placing such unwarranted stigma goes a long way.
      I don't think anyone will stop eating meat; we get various essential amino acids from meat. Humans evolved to rely on meat to sustain an calorie-demanding brain and high-order cognition. Unless plants are reverse-engineered to contain the same nutritional profile as meat, humans will consume meats for ages to come.

    • @redountilgreat
      @redountilgreat 7 лет назад +4

      Here is one Question for you:
      How can food animals get all they need to become a nutritiones Food for us, when most of them eat only plants? Is the human kind so weak, that thea can´t do, what most animals can?

  • @Waterwarp
    @Waterwarp 7 лет назад +348

    Thank god. I sometimes think I'm the only vegan who hates being one, but ethically and environmentally I just care too much to stop. I know most of us claim they would also refuse lab grown meat, but once that stuff is affordable I'll be the first in line to clench my teeth in it.

    • @Hasorane
      @Hasorane 7 лет назад +27

      If it was healthier than real meat, so would most vegans. If lab grown meat becomes real competition to regular meat, its within the vegan's best interest to have lab grown beat the shit out of regular meat in sales.

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex 7 лет назад +9

      Ewww a vegan go away! Back to your tree-cave!

    • @Hasorane
      @Hasorane 7 лет назад +49

      Sorry for having morals and selfless decision making based on scientific data ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @Waterwarp
      @Waterwarp 7 лет назад +33

      vizthex stop being so insecure about seeing people who are a bit nicer than you are. It's lack of maturity.

    • @williamsokol0
      @williamsokol0 7 лет назад +3

      +Wasp are you implying that you nicer and more mature than him...
      god dam vegans...
      jkjk but you still aren't helping your stereotype

  • @juki0h391
    @juki0h391 7 лет назад +37

    if the cultured meat has all the same nutrients at the same ratios, then im ok with it

    • @SogMosee
      @SogMosee 6 лет назад +6

      just know it will include all of the bad things as well, including the high cholesterol and carcinogens. But as long as animals aren't suffering, I would be fine if people destroyed their health and life. ;)

    • @lameduck1690
      @lameduck1690 6 лет назад +10

      SogMosee, consuming carcinogens which increase your potential of cancer by less than a percent is not exactly "destroying your health and life." A lot of the health problems with meat can be eliminated in cultured meat, and they will-as long as it doesn't negatively affect the taste.

    • @SogMosee
      @SogMosee 6 лет назад +1

      Less than 1% increase in cancer risk? Ha! You're delusional. Try 17-18%. Eat what you want, but be honest about the consequences.

    • @lameduck1690
      @lameduck1690 6 лет назад +4

      SogMosee, that 17-18% figure you just used, you don't understand. Your real, normal cancer risk to begin with is less than 1%, so you're increasing a figure of less than 1% by 17%. Like I said, that isn't exactly throwing your life away.

    • @SogMosee
      @SogMosee 6 лет назад

      Like I said, delusional. Delusional people tend to rewrite facts to suit their narrative. I must say, a 17% increase in cancer risk is quite large for simply eating something, but like I said above, eat what you want, just understand the consequences. I suppose you could also lie about the facts so you don't feel as bad when doing something obviously harmful to your self..., yeah that works too.

  • @bobtheduck
    @bobtheduck 7 лет назад +11

    The good thing about the methane is that it can be collected and used to replace other fuels. It burns cleaner than things like gasoline, and burning it prevents its being released as methane into the atmosphere, killing two birds with one stone. If we just harnessed the cows' waste gasses, we could actually reduce greenhouse emissions rather than increase them, and there are ranches that do just that, making a lot of money either selling the methane or generating electricity with it.
    I love the idea of cultured meat, but let's make the systems we have better, too. That means methane harvesting.

    • @Whatwhat3434
      @Whatwhat3434 6 лет назад +2

      bobtheduck we don't need to worry about fixing a bad system if we can switch to a new one fast enough.

    • @Thot-Slayer-420
      @Thot-Slayer-420 6 лет назад

      methane harvesting? if you don’t mind stinking of sh*t, by all means but don’t be suprised to see everyone making sure they’re at least 10m away from you.

    • @raylenn4444
      @raylenn4444 5 лет назад

      Emperor McCarthy burned methane don't have an odor man.... and it's not the gas that stinks, nor is it it's burnes version. what stinks when cows emit methane(and it's whzn they shit and fart) is the bacteries inside the beasts intestines who goes into the shit/fart. so yeah you would not stink. and yeah i ain't censoring my swearing, screw america's obsession with language i'm french.

  • @lucaslolz
    @lucaslolz 7 лет назад +70

    So, who here wants to eat cultured human meat? Asking for a friend

  • @Altorin
    @Altorin 7 лет назад +97

    You actually showed Jeremy clarkson talking about real beef. He was doing a blind taste test and he decided right away (you could even see the subtitle) that the second burger tasted different. He said he liked it and that it did taste very much like meat but he could tell right away that it wasn't. He was impressed with it but said that it certainly was not quite there.
    I'm only concerned that you misrepresented him as saying that it tastes like beef when the thing he was actually eating was beef in that moment. Maybe add an annotation? A better choice might have been Adam Savage's reaction if your intention was to show a person being blown away by the impossible burger.
    Great video apart from that nitpick.

    • @The-Rest-of-Us
      @The-Rest-of-Us  7 лет назад +103

      Honest mistake on my part. Trying to cut the video in a way that fixes this.

    • @Mogwai88
      @Mogwai88 2 года назад

      @@The-Rest-of-Us It's been 4 years dude

    • @The-Rest-of-Us
      @The-Rest-of-Us  2 года назад +1

      @@Mogwai88 Haha yea turns out YT doesn’t allow you to cut out a middle part like that and you also can’t re-upload and replace a video. I’m doing my best to be intellectually honest by leaving this comment and discussion up.

    • @Mogwai88
      @Mogwai88 2 года назад

      @@The-Rest-of-Us fair enough

  • @explosioninthesky
    @explosioninthesky 5 лет назад +6

    "you damn vegetarian eat my food's food"
    That's really got me 😂

  • @tristancole1367
    @tristancole1367 7 лет назад +25

    There didn't seem to be any mention of a factory farming tax? Wouldn't that be an efficient way to speed up investment into meat alternatives (and also price for the negative externalities associated with factory farming)?

    • @mistahsusan2650
      @mistahsusan2650 7 лет назад +7

      I'd anticipate there would be a massive lobbying effort by the factory-farmers.
      it's not like with tobacco or motor vehicles, where companies can just invest in a new technology (vaping and electric motors/hybrids cars).
      once those farms are gone, those animals are gone; and they won't be coming back.

    • @lameduck1690
      @lameduck1690 6 лет назад

      There would be no real need. This industry is going to keep growing.
      There is a good potential for emissions taxes to affect farming, too, though.

    • @VaasMontenegro12
      @VaasMontenegro12 5 лет назад

      Tristan Cole I think cultured meat subsidies would be a better idea, it's usually better to reward a new better product to make it more popular than punish it's older worse opponent

  • @JayTCOD
    @JayTCOD 7 лет назад +6

    This video was so great I had to clap out loud by myself alone in my apartment.

  • @jamestown8398
    @jamestown8398 6 лет назад +4

    I have to agree that the current method of producing meat is not as efficient as it could be, and that efficiency is likely to win out.
    But I think meat from slaughtered animals will still remain in the future, even if on a greatly reduced scale (if not as an outright niche item). It could be a case where some people people continue to pay for the entire animal to be grown and slaughtered because they feel slaughtered meat is more "authentic" than cultured meat, or because they have a romanticized image of ranching.

  • @r.b.4611
    @r.b.4611 6 лет назад +2

    Churchill prediction the future of meat production is pretty cool.

  • @KevsDoYouTube
    @KevsDoYouTube 6 лет назад +2

    and my old man said that I could just be a farmer for a living in the future when the burgers flipping jobs are automated.

  • @codyeppert2381
    @codyeppert2381 7 лет назад +4

    The best part about this is it doesn't even need to be stem cells from animals we typically eat, hell you could grow tiger meat if you wanted to.

  • @Zyzz69420
    @Zyzz69420 7 лет назад +3

    love the kurzgesagt easter egg

  • @ea-nasir420
    @ea-nasir420 7 лет назад

    Amazing video. You keep stepping up your game each video, it feels like. Good job on this one :)

  • @Wanderlust
    @Wanderlust 7 лет назад +1

    if you want to go deeper on this topic and are also into fitness check a vid called *The Hidden Benefits of Eating Less Meat | Documentary* by Radu Antoniu

  • @fellowneighbor5985
    @fellowneighbor5985 6 лет назад +5

    You Damn vegetarians are eating my Foods Food !!!

  • @fatboyRAY24
    @fatboyRAY24 7 лет назад +195

    As long as it tastes good, who gives a sh*t

    • @sansamman4619
      @sansamman4619 7 лет назад +1

      vegans boii

    • @felipemarsal2899
      @felipemarsal2899 7 лет назад +31

      your body, the environment...

    • @redountilgreat
      @redountilgreat 7 лет назад +11

      Which it? The meat substitute or the animal flesh?

    • @fatboyRAY24
      @fatboyRAY24 7 лет назад +11

      Michael Schmitz
      The meat substitute

    • @hyugo1359
      @hyugo1359 7 лет назад +2

      yeah i think so too ! my taste buds have yet to be convinced but if they make it happen i'm completely fine with that. But I think in the long term we might need to put that solution aside once the synthetic meat becomes very ressource efficient(even more than cultivating soy beans to transform)
      but obviously we aren't quite there yet ;)

  • @PeterFishGames
    @PeterFishGames 7 лет назад

    Congratulations on 100k subscribers! You deserve it!

  • @nguyenbinhphuong1491
    @nguyenbinhphuong1491 7 лет назад +2

    i read an article advise insect can solve this problem then again, it's impossible to tell people eat those little creature just like forcing them to turn into vegitarian:/

  • @neanam
    @neanam 7 лет назад +3

    kinda feel bad about the chickens in the end...☹️☹️☹️🤤😝😋😋

  • @viktorvujicic6462
    @viktorvujicic6462 7 лет назад +4

    1:41 Musk ?

  • @millieheo537
    @millieheo537 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you for great videos as always!! Totally something that EVERYBODY need to watch.

  • @experimentsengineering2623
    @experimentsengineering2623 7 лет назад

    How do you pick your topics? I just wonder because your videos seem pretty diverse in subject. I would suspect it's what interests how would you decide which to do? Also do you have a schedule of future videos planned or do you only think of the next one after the one you are making is done?

  • @denc4940
    @denc4940 7 лет назад +5

    aye

  • @dannytbm
    @dannytbm 7 лет назад +3

    Informative video! I doubt I'd bother with this though because when one actually gives it a chance, vegan food is so varied and tasty I don't see the point. At least it might bring round some people who can't see it that way.

  • @NarenderKumar-cg7qw
    @NarenderKumar-cg7qw 6 лет назад +1

    Love this idea bro. How much you research on this topic. Reply.

  • @linedpaper5374
    @linedpaper5374 3 года назад

    this topic is so important. thank you for making this video (and for making it so well)!

  • @DoctorMckay101
    @DoctorMckay101 7 лет назад +3

    YEAH, SCIENCE BITCH.

  • @YT7mc
    @YT7mc 7 лет назад +4

    wow never eating beef again

    • @YT7mc
      @YT7mc 7 лет назад +2

      I'm joking anyone who thinks that I'm actually going to stop eating meat, just calm down.

    • @pennymac16
      @pennymac16 7 лет назад

      ?

  • @andorfanjullopez2427
    @andorfanjullopez2427 2 года назад

    What a great video!! You did an amazing analysis and very easy to understand

  • @wolfgangouille
    @wolfgangouille 6 лет назад

    BTW in the bay we have this "impossible meat" thingy made out of plants, and it's very hard to tell the difference from a real patty. Anyone else tried?

  • @llamamall3653
    @llamamall3653 7 лет назад +25

    I don't think eating meat is that hard to cut out. A few years ago, I was nearly a complete carnivore, and now I've cut meat out of my diet entirely. most people would be able to be just fine if they went vegetarian.

    • @llamamall3653
      @llamamall3653 7 лет назад +7

      It's also very easy to cut down on the meat that you eat. Even if you don't go completely vegetarian, it's a simple lifestyle change to try and limit yourself to one meal containing meat per day or something like that.

    • @llamamall3653
      @llamamall3653 7 лет назад +1

      The Joker fair argument. I have been convinced

    • @ricardososa7534
      @ricardososa7534 7 лет назад

      No

    • @CloroxBleach-is5qh
      @CloroxBleach-is5qh 7 лет назад

      +Llamamall yes, people say they can't live without eating certain meat but it is
      Actually very easy to cut down on your meat consumption. Also if you don't eat meat for a long time you begin to dislike it's taste. Happened to me with steak

    • @realsabab
      @realsabab 7 лет назад

      let's eat some beef

  • @lan204
    @lan204 7 лет назад +136

    How dare you suggest stopping the killing of animals and helping the planet. I derive 98% of my enjoyment from meat from knowing that an animal has suffered greatly as well as the state of the planet now being worse. You sicken me!

    • @byzantiboo4391
      @byzantiboo4391 7 лет назад +7

      You sick fuck.

    • @byzantiboo4391
      @byzantiboo4391 7 лет назад +5

      So you hate the prospect of making the earth a better place?

    • @lan204
      @lan204 7 лет назад +30

      I find this prospect utterly despicable. MY manifesto advocates in part for daily pregnant women caged matches to the death, for every kid to be on a diet of twenty packs of cigarettes and 500 mL of whisky a day, and for all forests to be burned and the surviving wildlife nuked!

    • @lan204
      @lan204 7 лет назад +20

      Extreme sarcasm. I'm a huge green economy advocate. Heck, in the past I did research on polymers from renewable sources. Specifically polylactic acid (PLA) crystallisation.

    • @byzantiboo4391
      @byzantiboo4391 7 лет назад

      Speaking about renewable sources,Most people are debating whether solar or nuclear energy should be the main,personally i lean towards 3rd/4th choices in these arguments,Solar energy is good,don't get me wrong,it just takes too much space to get an efficient enough amount of energy with purely solar panels,Nuclear energy makes much more with less space,but is dangerous,Tide and Wind energy work well but don't produce too much,all in all it depends how you play your cards

  • @TechnicalTrack
    @TechnicalTrack 7 лет назад

    hey you are very close to 100k subscribers
    congratulations in advance

  • @linerider195
    @linerider195 7 лет назад

    Just a quick suggestion: List the songs you use in your videos please! I'm often stuck trying to find out the names of some of them.
    Also keep up with the fascinating vids, you have quickly become one of my favourites!

    • @The-Rest-of-Us
      @The-Rest-of-Us  7 лет назад +1

      +Pablo Miralles It’s not that easy. I used to do that when I used copyright-free music from RUclips. Now I actually buy music clips on various websites which I then loop myself.

  • @BlueyMcPhluey
    @BlueyMcPhluey 7 лет назад +36

    hey guys just get over it and eat some goddamn beans because they have more protein than meat anyway

    • @guoweih7339
      @guoweih7339 6 лет назад +9

      Shame on you, eating babies of plants !

    • @cestlavegan5793
      @cestlavegan5793 6 лет назад +3

      josh mcgee Beans are delicious. But so is meat!

    • @cestlavegan5793
      @cestlavegan5793 6 лет назад +6

      Netheryk Vegetarianism might not make much of an environmental impact (dairy and egg consumption) but veganism significantly lowers your impact. It's still imperfect, but it is the most environmentally friendly diet in the developed world.

    • @cestlavegan5793
      @cestlavegan5793 6 лет назад +3

      Netheryk People could give it up until clean meat arrives. We've already got plenty of quality veg alternatives. I know that as a vegan I'll probably be buying cultured meat when it becomes available. Avoiding animal products might be more beneficial than we thought. New study published in the journal Science: "plant-based diets reduce food's emissions by up to 73% depending where you live." www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180531143008.htm

    • @nomoturtle1788
      @nomoturtle1788 6 лет назад

      Netheryk 'this close'? what gave you that idea? Seems more like wishful thinking

  • @BurnEmDown1
    @BurnEmDown1 7 лет назад +14

    The change to vegetarianism and veganism is much easier than you think, and it's certainly a worthy solution to this problem :)

    • @thomas-wr1fj
      @thomas-wr1fj 6 лет назад +3

      no fuck off

    • @SogMosee
      @SogMosee 6 лет назад +1

      3 words Tim: taste, tradition, convenience

    • @magma2680
      @magma2680 6 лет назад

      Amit Reuveni it's also easy to quit as it's very expensive and tastes like shit in many cases :)

  • @repker
    @repker 7 лет назад

    Did you use CGPGrey's "Humans Need Not Apply" video as a reference for this video? Feels stylistically quite similar, not in a bad way or anything!

  • @unappropadope
    @unappropadope 7 лет назад

    These points were all in a hello internet episode including the ska very parallel; is there a book you two drew from?

  • @leowong8777
    @leowong8777 7 лет назад +3

    Remember you are eating corpses if it was factory farmed. But if it was lab grown, you are eating babies.
    If you are eating it raw, you have a strange eating disorder.

    • @aronpuma5962
      @aronpuma5962 7 лет назад +3

      I mean, it's not really a baby, a baby is a functioning life form. Lab grown, cultured meat seems just like the parts that people tend to eat in a society, which can't really sustain growth on its own without that lab equipment.
      I does strip back the fact that really, life is just a series of chemical processes and, it is imitatable, which is exestentially terrifying I suppose.

    • @mattgianni8688
      @mattgianni8688 7 лет назад +1

      babies? wtf these are stem cells.
      they don't become living beings

    • @descai10
      @descai10 6 лет назад +1

      You're not eating a baby if it was lab grown. It's just a collection of cells. It doesn't think or feel and never did.

  • @TheJake452
    @TheJake452 7 лет назад +40

    Moral equivalency of what animals do in the wild to each other, aka killing their food, to slavery. Big jump there pal.
    My family raises cattle, I'm not scared or concerned about lab or veggie meat. If folks want to buy that stuff, wonderful! More power to them.

    • @Altorin
      @Altorin 7 лет назад +14

      Archer Sipher it wasn't him making the jump. It was a hypothetical future society that has been growing their meat exclusively in a lab for decades or centuries that would be making that jump.
      But there *are* people who make that jump today. I'm just saying that he is not necessarily one of them. He was speaking hypothetically.

    • @hypercent
      @hypercent 7 лет назад +40

      @Archer Sipher: There is a big ethical difference between killing a free-living animal to survive and mass-breeding animals for the sole purpose of enslaving and eventually killing them for luxury reasons.

    • @TriplekilzTk1
      @TriplekilzTk1 7 лет назад +1

      I don't see the "big" difference that just sounds like a personal issue. I mean would you rather have farmers chase the chickens before they kill them? Or would you rather people eat the bare minimum of what they need? What difference does it make if they were "free-living" or not?

    • @hypercent
      @hypercent 7 лет назад +7

      @TipleKilz: Well, ethics is a personal issue after all. Fact is: people in the first world don't need to eat meat to survive since there is a surplus of plant-based food. So the existence of the meat industry is pure luxury and in no way necessary. The "bare minimum" of meat would be none at all. And between what we have now and there being no meat at all I would indeed prefer the latter.
      Regarding your last question: Try to imagine a scenario where certain humans are systematically killed for some reason (has happened before, unfortunately). While killing them is highly questionable on its own, to say the least, do you really see no difference between them living freely and them being imprisoned their whole life before that? If you do see a difference, why don't you anymore when replacing humans with animals in this scenario?

    • @TriplekilzTk1
      @TriplekilzTk1 7 лет назад +5

      How is killing animals questionable? "We don't need meat" isn't a good argument. We don't need a lot things for survival but no one's discarding them (e.g. cars, bikes, paper, plastic, smart phones, planes, alcohol).
      "do you really see no difference between them living freely and them being imprisoned" The difference is life is a lot less enjoyable for me (if I was imprisoned). So what you're saying is stop eating meat to give animals a good life? A free cow follows the herd, eats grass, migrates to survive and gets hunted by predators. Aren't they going to meet the same fate either way?
      So most people know where meat, animal products, milk, eggs, and wool come from yet most people aren't vegans and since "ethics is a personal issue" then most people don't mind eating meat and using animal products knowing the consequences.
      A better argument is the negative effects to the environment and how resource heavy it is.

  • @Stylesdontmatter
    @Stylesdontmatter 7 лет назад

    Very comfortable to watch video for such a heavy topic. Awesome!

  • @RobinLespagnard
    @RobinLespagnard 7 лет назад

    Hey, nice video ! Could you put the links to your resources in the description ?

    • @s.y.7866
      @s.y.7866 7 лет назад

      Robin Lespagnard GOOGLE. Google had always the answer, also yeah all of these are true

  • @ConciousConstruct
    @ConciousConstruct 7 лет назад +91

    Vegans are awesome! They understand this and unselfishly take action. Good job my vegan friends! You rock!

    • @mistahsusan2650
      @mistahsusan2650 7 лет назад +4

      Jesse Wilson "unselfishly"
      yeah ...
      about that.
      I understand that there are some people who can't eat meat, like, they had a bad fall and can no longer chew properly; but I've never met a vegan that didn't shut up about their diet as if it's some kind of moral virtue.
      rule #1 to changing hearts and/or minds (not every one has both, not acknowledging this would be racist) don't be moral-fags about it, it's like Christian-Rap all over again ...
      geez.

    • @XDCherylLi
      @XDCherylLi 7 лет назад +1

      Mistah Susan I would argue that it IS a moral virtue to not cause unimaginable suffering for the pleasure of one's tastebuds. But think about it, you've probably met a lot of vegans that you didn't know were vegan because they weren't "bragging" about it. Only my close friends and family know I'm vegan because I share meals with them. It's called confirmation bias.

    • @neeneko
      @neeneko 7 лет назад +2

      I have met very few vegans who will 'not shut up about their diet', and I would say for every one of them I have met 10 self described 'carnivores' who will not shut up about the virtue of their diet. That #1 rule only ever seems to get broken by the alternative side, while the larger group seems utterly blind to its own.

    • @chistinelane
      @chistinelane 7 лет назад +1

      neeneko have you tried looking at it though their eyes? Imagine living in a world where everyone ate human flesh, you'd probably be speaking out and getting just as frustrated with the fucked up cruel world as vegans do. I'm sorry, but the meat on your plate was an animal that died, and that's pretty hard to ignore for some people. There's even "burn out" where people just accept the world is fucked and nobody will really want to change no matter what happens

    • @billyeah2204
      @billyeah2204 7 лет назад

      Cheers fam ! :)

  • @Tscharlieh
    @Tscharlieh 7 лет назад +13

    I would like to see:
    1. An honest CO2-balance of soy-beans and rice production. One would be surprised how much methane is produced here...
    2. An analysis of the question if a fully vegetarian society could actually exist at the high productivity levels as we have right now. Some scientists believe that productivity levels would fall if we would all rely just on a vegetarian diet.
    I think neither relying on "plant-meat" nor "lab-meat" will really help to solve the problem. They both use up a lot of energy and taste terrible. In the end you end up with a meat what has the same desastrous CO2-balance (it is just a myth that you will save ressources by that). The most promising protein source is insect-proteins, maybe we will have our future meat made from that (or at least the processed meat like hamburgers, sausages, etc.)

    • @SirCutRy
      @SirCutRy 7 лет назад +6

      How do you know that lab-meat tastes terrible or uses a lot of energy? What supports those assertions?

    • @redountilgreat
      @redountilgreat 7 лет назад +2

      I recommend the documentary Cowspiricy for the answers to your important questions.

    • @davidcurryman
      @davidcurryman 7 лет назад +1

      yeah, just watch the documentary "cowspiracy", it covers everything and a bit more.

    • @Tscharlieh
      @Tscharlieh 7 лет назад

      SirCutRy: Well, I have worked in biochemistry-labs for years, and the dream of growing meat or even organs from stem cells is already around for decades. However, it turned out that it is not that simple. Even the first step, making muscle cells out of stem cells, is a multi-step process making use of all kinds of different growth media with different growth hormones and other factors. Meat is more than just some muscle-cells. You need fat (especially for the taste) , connective tissue, bones, blood cells and much more. On top of it you need movement to get the meat structure (and I do not mean a little bit shaking in a flask as is shown in the video). So with cultured meat you will either end up with a rather loose connected lump of muscle cells (which may be fine for minced meat, but not for steak or the like) or - in order ot get meat remotely similar to real one - you will have to put a lot of energie in a tedious and complicated process, needing lots of highly trained personal (I am talking about PhD-level, not farmers). Still, that meat will not be the same "sensation" like real meat, it will cost a fortune and it will contain all kinds of growth factors and hormones, stuff you maybe would not like to have in your meat.

    • @Tscharlieh
      @Tscharlieh 7 лет назад +1

      david sermoneta: Well, I don't think "cowspiracy" is a good example for a "fair analysis". Many numbers used in this documentary turned out to be exaggerated or plainly wrong. For example: Scientific calculations come to the conclusion that animal breeding is worldwide responsible for about 15% of all greenhouse gas emissions (in Germany and other modern countries it is actually rather 7%), the movie, however, talks about more than 80%... However, don't get me wrong, I fully concur with the view that meat-production is a huge problem with respect to greenhouse gas emissions. Especially since we can expect that the developing countries are just starting to consume meat. The point I want to make is, that exchanging meat with artificial meat made from rice and/or soy beans would be like jumping from the frying pan into the fire, since rice is a huge methane producer and soy-beans are mostly genetically modified. It might be a bit more effective to have the burger produced directly from soy beans than having it take a detour through the cow, but I think in the end one does not significantly reduce the CO2-production by that, because the further processing of the soy bean needs additional energy, and thus, produces CO2, something what is mostly left out of the calculations I saw...

  • @josephyounis8401
    @josephyounis8401 7 лет назад

    You're a boss. It is about time that theory unites with reason in a pragmatic manner; I usually do not waste my time on youtube series/videos but this, I am actually learning.

  • @mahzmarize2104
    @mahzmarize2104 6 лет назад +1

    YOUR VIDEOS ARE AMAZING ____ KEEEP IT UP MAN

  • @billythekidd4571
    @billythekidd4571 7 лет назад +23

    Sitting on the deck out back with a medium rare steak, I ask myself if this bloody piece of pleasure is worth it. Yes. It is.

    • @sansamman4619
      @sansamman4619 7 лет назад +4

      no it isn't I'm not vegan but i know it isn't worth it :( , reason being:
      it will kill your grandchildren.if you never plan to have children it will kill tons of people.if not right now!

    • @redountilgreat
      @redountilgreat 7 лет назад

      @san kitty: Why are you no vegan than?

    • @llamamall3653
      @llamamall3653 7 лет назад +1

      Twilips There are cheap vegan diets out there. I know that not everyone has the time to cook up a meal each night, but if you can, diets made of vegetables rather than manufactured vegan substitutes for non vegan foods are pretty cheap

    • @e1ghteyes448
      @e1ghteyes448 7 лет назад +2

      Holy shit we have a badass here

    • @krombopulos_michael
      @krombopulos_michael 7 лет назад +1

      Wow that comment was so cool that I think I got freezer burn from reading it.

  • @akankshaandadityasingh9888
    @akankshaandadityasingh9888 7 лет назад +7

    Thats why we banned beef in India.

    • @y__h
      @y__h 7 лет назад

      Pork is okay?

    • @grrr1351
      @grrr1351 7 лет назад

      Why not just ban all types of meats there?

    • @irek1394
      @irek1394 7 лет назад +25

      haha you banned it because of your fairy tales

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex 7 лет назад +1

      I feel terrible for you guys...

    • @AvgJane19
      @AvgJane19 7 лет назад

      Irek Cz. Well that was rude

  • @yelixir
    @yelixir 6 лет назад

    man this is gonna take like 20 years

  • @dificulttocure
    @dificulttocure 7 лет назад +2

    Great video man, I'm a meat lover and I'd definitely consider changing to any of those alternatives.

  • @Hasorane
    @Hasorane 7 лет назад +33

    Going vegan is the best solution we have right now. We've reached the point of this argument where meat eaters can't deny the overwhelming facts supporting that it's better for our health, environment and Earth's depletion of resources.
    When cultured meat becomes the norm this might not be the case, but right now it's the conscious decision to make.
    Not to mention the unfair suffering and death of innocent beings we cause on a daily basis.
    Humans slaughter roughly 56 billion animals every year. Meaning every day, we kill around 153,000,000 animals. We still remember tragedies like 9/11 and rave about how awful it was for killing less than 3,000 people, but that's 0,0018% of the beings we slaughter DAILY. Even if you think human lives are more important, the animals feel the same desire to live as us. They feel pain and fear of death, just like us.

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex 7 лет назад +6

      Your brain is broken. Vegans are all retarded. And animals are here for us to eat them, if not they'd overrun the planet.

    • @Hasorane
      @Hasorane 7 лет назад +12

      Is this a joke or was that an actual debate attempt... ?
      Animals don't stand a chance against us. We'd drastically reduce their numbers in the billions if we just stopped breeding them in the first place.

    • @SirCutRy
      @SirCutRy 7 лет назад +6

      I see meat eating as natural. But I also see the unnecessary suffering that happens. I eagerly await the cultured meat.

    • @Hasorane
      @Hasorane 7 лет назад +10

      That's an appeal to nature fallacy. Just because something is found in nature doesn't mean it's good.

    • @SirCutRy
      @SirCutRy 7 лет назад +4

      That's true. But I mean it in the sense that it happens in nature and has been going on for a long time. Not in the sense that it's good or necessary.

  • @billythekidd4571
    @billythekidd4571 7 лет назад +23

    Comparing the killing of animals for food to slavery. That's fun. I was unaware farm animals had a similar value to human lives.

    • @MarkOffenberg
      @MarkOffenberg 7 лет назад +35

      TomcanKnife really dude.. that's what you take away from this?

    • @hypercent
      @hypercent 7 лет назад +3

      @TomcanKnife: I really hope you're being sarcastic.

    • @ipassedtheturingtest1396
      @ipassedtheturingtest1396 7 лет назад +16

      We are talking about factory farming, not some peacefully grazing cows on a meadow. I think breeding and fattening and slaughtering millions of living creatures in such a cruel way whilst destroying the environment can somewhat compare.

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex 7 лет назад +2

      Yeah they don't....or at least shouldn't

    • @stoppi89
      @stoppi89 7 лет назад +11

      He did not compare it 1:1. He said that it both involved *a certain amount* of cruelty. You should listen before complaining.

  • @Rotem_S
    @Rotem_S 6 лет назад +1

    damn good, the audio, the animation..

    • @Rotem_S
      @Rotem_S 6 лет назад

      oh BTW electric cars use up a ton of lithium for the batteries and other rare elements, so buyimg one when your regular car works fine is mostly a waste and harms the environment. also almost anything outside EU has a lot of coal and niclear power so you aren't doing much. if you live in places which have sun and aren't too hot just buy solar panels, it's helping much more

  • @artmanxp
    @artmanxp 7 лет назад

    this is interesting, wonder were the mass bug farm idea went?

  • @williamnorton9547
    @williamnorton9547 7 лет назад

    Dang. Churchill really did say something right after the little black heart of H.G. Wells.

  • @IncroyablesExperiences
    @IncroyablesExperiences 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks !

  • @slavteter
    @slavteter 4 года назад

    U got me on "In a nutshell" XD

  • @Techtastisch
    @Techtastisch 7 лет назад +1

    I reduced my meatconsumption to 300g per week too due to a healthier lifestyle.

  • @Lennte-kw5pc
    @Lennte-kw5pc 7 лет назад

    Glückwunsch 100K

  • @amlan9120
    @amlan9120 2 года назад +2

    Oh, wait wasn't this the guy responsible for great Bengal famine during the British time in india?

  • @Felixkeeg
    @Felixkeeg 7 лет назад

    I very much appreciate your non-hypocritical point of view on this topic. Pointing out the problems and showing a way to work around them without judging is an ability few people possess these days.

  • @vibhorjain8528
    @vibhorjain8528 6 лет назад

    Great job man!!!

  • @TaberIV
    @TaberIV 7 лет назад

    That clip of the chickens at the end creeped me out lol

  • @MegasaloPT
    @MegasaloPT 7 лет назад

    What a great video. Good job !

  • @newdove8113
    @newdove8113 7 лет назад

    Very informational. Thank you.

  • @ziggy8253
    @ziggy8253 7 лет назад

    Nothing changes now. Everything changes tomorrow.

  • @spacet1me
    @spacet1me 6 лет назад +1

    Because of you I'm selling my $87,000 of DIS stock in my portfolio and buying that into a cultured meat company. And subscribed.

  • @reyadhrahaman7778
    @reyadhrahaman7778 5 лет назад +1

    I agree with everything in this video. Nice job, now excuse me while I finish my test tube chicken parmesan.

  • @borjan006
    @borjan006 7 лет назад

    Guys do you know what software he might be using to make his videos?

  • @Pilbaran00b
    @Pilbaran00b 7 лет назад

    I love the kurzgesagt reference :) Nice video.

  • @claytongriffith8323
    @claytongriffith8323 7 лет назад

    This reminds me of how when I was younger I didn't know meat was from animals I thought it was a type of plant: fruits, vegetables, meat

  • @SirCutRy
    @SirCutRy 7 лет назад

    Very good points. Thank you.

  • @mario167100
    @mario167100 7 лет назад

    As long as it tastes like a hamburger, I'm game.

  • @maxpayne438
    @maxpayne438 7 лет назад

    15000L of wafer for one kilo? damn cows must be thirsty

  • @kanuki0
    @kanuki0 6 лет назад

    in a nutchell :D loved that kursgezagt reference

  • @MiguelRockstarGarza
    @MiguelRockstarGarza 4 года назад

    One of the best videos I’ve ever seen

  • @ungureanubogdan2398
    @ungureanubogdan2398 7 лет назад

    1:13 should've had a bird fly by

  • @6san6sei6
    @6san6sei6 7 лет назад

    LOVE THIS CHANNEL!

  • @maupalo2
    @maupalo2 7 лет назад

    I was a little bit skeptical at first but cultured meat convinced me, now I just have to try it for myself

  • @joshclune149
    @joshclune149 6 лет назад +1

    livestock production standards are getting better so give them a chance, methane will be drastically reduced in the next 20 years. They also provide good ecological function like nutrient cycling

  • @dario-viva
    @dario-viva 7 лет назад

    how on eath can one dislike such a great video, I don't get it.
    good job Tom Kupper

    • @The-Rest-of-Us
      @The-Rest-of-Us  7 лет назад

      Yea, I don't get it either. Completely on your side here. ;)

  • @datscootusee213
    @datscootusee213 6 лет назад

    I love this video. It gives me a lot of hope.

  • @moiseshall9372
    @moiseshall9372 7 лет назад

    so after we get this other beef, i want a few cows as pet

  • @appa609
    @appa609 7 лет назад

    I want to taste the spirit of my prey animal merging into my soul with each bite.

  • @savioschronberg3036
    @savioschronberg3036 5 лет назад

    Vegan now for about 2 years , and it is actually quite easy and tastefull. Meat analoges have also rapidly improved last years (at least here in Netherlands). Vitamine b12 supplement is imperative.

  • @orsharon65
    @orsharon65 7 лет назад

    I can't hear you, all I am hearing is "mh mh mh this cow is so good"

  • @wolfgangouille
    @wolfgangouille 6 лет назад

    Like the reference to "Kurtzgesa" I I I mean "In a nutshell".

  • @atlas5786
    @atlas5786 7 лет назад

    Another problem with synthetic meat is the formation of tissue from grown cells.
    In my first year of biotechnology I grew cells from chicken embryo organ samples. I ended up with a thin layer of cells on the surface of a petri-dish. These cells did not form muscles, just muscle cells. Same thing with liver cells.
    You could compress a cell slurry I guess, but try to make that taste like steak (the consistency of food is very important after all). It would very quickly become a very elaborate process.
    Last time I checked they were working on making frameworks for the cells to grow into tissues to repair vascular damage. Maybe they can do something like that for steak as well, but it's probably gonna be a while until we see serious progress.

    • @atlas5786
      @atlas5786 7 лет назад

      Yes! Amputees would be jumping!
      I'm sorry for that joke...

  • @conorfitzgerald5759
    @conorfitzgerald5759 7 лет назад

    but it's also about sustaining a growing population. plants can produce so much more in a way smaller area compared to animals.

  • @asger4040
    @asger4040 7 лет назад

    what was those documentary scenes from

  • @dervakommtvonhinten517
    @dervakommtvonhinten517 6 лет назад +1

    cultured farming would be awesome

  • @jfinfo12
    @jfinfo12 7 лет назад

    This is scary in all sorts of ways.

  • @Jacob-qr8pl
    @Jacob-qr8pl 7 лет назад

    those methods sound cool

  • @chrispy44573
    @chrispy44573 7 лет назад

    Been a Vegetarian for 17 years and would give up tomorrow if cultured meat was readily available