I was thinking this video was getting out of date… then AI art and language models arrived and I am more concerned about this topic than ever: ruclips.net/video/2pr3thuB10U/видео.html
Basically: mines are automated, grocery stores are automated, trucks are self driving on public highways, go has been beaten ahead of schedule by AI, google has cracked quantum computing, and we have a vaccine to an influenza within 12 months. RUclips is a mystery, not even google knows how the AI algorithm works anymore, doctors still have jobs, but a global pandemic has change that somewhat. Not because we don’t need doctors, but because people don’t want doctors anymore.
@@VideobyKB Honestly that last part is really confusing. You'd think that a pandemic would make people happy that there's doctors about but instead they get all the backlash.
BIG BROTHER IS ALREADY REPLACING THE HOMELESS WITH ROBOTS. DESIGNED TO BE A TAX-COLLECTING MACHINE ON THE KIND. PINCH YOUR PENNIES PEOPLE; A REVOLUTION IS COMING.
My basement is filled with unemployed technology. Isn't yours? I've even given some of it make-work on occasion, out of some odd form of pity or sympathy. Everyone craves feeling useful, you know?
There are in fact robots that can perform surgeries, yeah, although still limited in capabilities, but the fact that 8 years ago, this was all just speculation... that's crazy. Also Baxter's living in certain cafes in Japan as a barista, so he's still going.
+Oouska Wizard I'm 58 years old and have been on my job for almost 36 years. Pay and benefits are great but my Team (DoD Security, Aerospace Facility) has shrunk from 14 men to 6 men since I was hired. Due to better CCTV and Alarm Sensor Capabilities we now do the work with less than half the people we used just 3 decades ago. I think the six of us are safe because you will always need at least ONE MAN to tend the facility and monitor the machines/computers/sensors and respond to problems. I just need 7 more years to retirement. God help my 5 grandchildren...
+Noah Williams I take it you haven't entered an Aerospace Facility or Boarded a Plane in a while. Security at Stadiums, Industrial Plants and Casinos will always need Human Beings. But, there will only be about 5-6 "guards" at an Aerospace Plant where there used to be 20+. Cameras, Alarms, Card Access (and so on) replaced about 25% of Humans in the Security business and our Electronic Friends don't sleep or drink on the job. Firemen, Cops, Security Guards and EMT's are just a few fields that will always need Humans. Maybe "Robocop" is coming soon...
randy109 The assumption that ANY job will always be done by humans is a bad one. Robots can theoretically do anything that's possible. Technology makes what's theoretically possible practically possible. It's not a matter of IF all human security guards will be replaced, it's a matter of WHEN will they be replaced.
Those darn automation engineers, taking over everyone's jobs. At least I'm safe *looks at degree in robotics* ... *looks at robots that teach themselves* Oh, I managed to steal my own job, darn.
places without fast internet like most of the United States: ha by the time the bot finished lookin gin the cloud to find my coffee, a coffee human would make 4 in the same time
Well, it’s not a machine, but factually speaking, the human brain is quantifiably the most complex thing in the universe that we know of. It’s just a fact
Not surprising. There's a third factor -- land cost and rent seekers -- that is missed One tenth of the speed at one hundredth the price doesn't mean you can make enough shirts to pay rent
I did a research paper on AI, and found out even Watson isn't around anymore. Hardly surprising considering how fast tech gets upgraded, but it still made me slightly sad to read about it.
the reason is because of other companies had a better product: turns out we don't need humanoid robot with 2 arms/hands, but most tasks can be performed with a single arm with hand. As was mentioned in the video: the economics are usually what matters most.
@@iridradiant yea this video is heavily optimistic in favour of robots. like its been 8 years and no part of the labour force has been affected by bots, even self driving cars arent that big of a thing
We're not being taken over by machines, we're being saved by them. They're not taking our jobs, they're doing our jobs for us and giving us the salary.
Interestingly, my job primarily consists of writing code to do my job for me. I’m quite literally writing a replacement me to take over my job and make me redundant
See once upon a time "robots do all the humans jobs" meant "humans don't need to work anymore, because abundance can be achieved without labor"; now it means "you must work to get income to survive, and no one will employ you because a robot can do all the work more cheaply." If governments don't start to provide income for their citizens, how will the increasingly unemployed and unemployable population be expected to survive?
@@snowflakemelter7171 Obviously, in discussing a video on economic issues, we are discussing economic survival, a subject I'm interested in meaningful discussion. However, if you only clap yourself on the back over semantics games and literal definitions of terminology which are pointless and irrelevant, I have more useful things to put my time into.
but the question then arises: "now what?" you don't have any struggle, everything is at the palm of your hand, dreams are nothing short of a memory because any wish you have will be eventually be granted, so then you turn to substances to forget how pointless your life, no, your existence has become, but not only yours, but the existence of every single human has become, and then the more time happens you loose your sense of self by falling into your animal instincts since the human mind is bored due to every task or accomplishment it could ever think of, would be solved in seconds by the one who rules over all of us, the machine.
@@openlink9958 The only problem i see is people will not be able to get paid to do something that they say gives their lives meaning. You can still make coffee, sweep the floors, drive a car (probs on a track with robots ready to take the wheel if you mess up". All these things that give people meaning in their lives are not going to go away. they just wont be getting paid to do them.
@@openlink9958 This is the equivalent of the thinking that death is required to give life meaning. No, this is a fallacious idea. There is no requirement for a "struggle" in the same way that "suffering from dementia" is a key part of making human appreciation. There are many things you could do in the absence of work! Automation simply removes the profit incentive by out competing, but people do things that aren't profitable all the time! There's nothing stopping humans from getting together and playing games or furthering a hobby together, writing a story to share with people.
@@openlink9958 We'll have to learn to do the things we like for the inherent satisfaction in doing them, and not because they prolong our survival. In fact, current society has done a big dirty one on us by making it so that unless we can monetize our passions they're deemed worthless wastes of time.
@@AndrewAMartin well, strictly speaking, bespoke wouldn't be in a shop on the shelf. Bespoke is only made on order, because it's meant to fit specifications (a tailor made suit is made to fit you body, that's like bespoke).
@@Andres_2004 I'm not sure what in the video made you believe army jobs were safe They're way easier to replace with bots than intellectual and creative jobs
@@Soldare "auto auto". That one I like. And since in German you have compound words and are forced to used them because you're not allowed to have two consecutive nouns performing the same function in one sentence, it would become "Autoauto". And your mouth makes a little stadium wave when you pronounce it.
they are called automobiles since the very beginning. Not for driving by themselves, but for driving by themselves... As in propelling themselves without being alive.
-durchgestrichen- well, learning computers can probably outperform us there too. All of the factors that lead to good philosophy, critical thinking, deductive reasoning, an understanding of humanity etc. will be in the scope of computers eventually, because we're already heading in that direction. We might not get there soon, but getting there is pretty inevitable.
Durchgestrichen Not because of automation, just because we have reach the limits of what we can ever discuss. Nowadays we're just trying to dig deeper and deeper in details. We will soon reach the definitive "we don't know" limit. Edit: And probably yes, computers will be able to think deeper and more far than us. But i'm not sure i might ever accept a new utlimate truth discovered by a computer.
I learned to make pizza the through all the traditional methods at a New York style pizzaria and at a Neapolitan style pizzaria. I worked at the fastest place in town and was able to toss and stretch pizza dough so fast that both of the owners and two GMs couldn't keep up at the over side of the oven. Now I work in a university cafeteria. The company that runs the cafeteria bought a dough pressing robot that presses doughballs perfectly flat, every time, even with inferior dough. I'm 25 and my trade is already dead.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. why support burnie? he didn't fight for himself or his supporters (who wasted millions, sued and lost), when the DNC cheated him. observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/
This video changed my life years ago and I honestly cant imagine where I'd be today without it. While I'd always been interested in robots and technology, this one video sparked an interest in the social and economic effects of technology that has led me to going into the field I have today. My entire career path and future were derailed by this 15 minute video. Thank you. EDIT: I'm now studing electrical engineering with a focus of Robotics, hoping to eventually work designing them full time.
I am a bit curious and confused at the same time. Your focus is to design robots, so its in the same way that AI angineers will be working on developing new AI's for all sorts of stuff right? So, coming up with solutions to problems; And so, other robots will build the robot designs you create. What i am a bit confused and curious is, what is the chance that the job of designing robots will also become automated? :o
Actually, I find the idea kinda pleasant. If there's a 45% unemployment rate and the wealth divide is as bad as... well now, then what's stopping people from a socialist revolution? A socialist revolution *while robots are doing all human labor*. That sounds awesome. Sure, people will need to find some means to keep themselves occupied, but without a need to work to live, I'd expect a huge upswing in creative pursuits and tech advancements, while cutting down heavily on depression. People that need help would be able to get it, people that simply don't want to work would be able to take time off, and people that want to create or think would have the time to create and think, even if their audience only extends to friends and family. It'd be a utopia
I just started a new job and my boss is literally a robot. Gives time off and makes schedules based on all the information we provide it. But the most terrifying part about it is that it's by and far the best boss I've ever had...
You shouldnt fret. Think about it this way. If automation get widespread, that causes mass unemployment, which means less jobs. Less employed people, means less customers able to afford the goods and services offered by businesses. That causes a decline in income for ALL BUINSINESSES. Anyone who knows anything about economics knows about this concept. It's called money circulation, and our society would collapse without it. TLDR; no sane buisiness would fully automate themselves because it would just hurt the economy in the long run, so there's no need to worry.
As tempting as a world without work sounds, think of it this way. Without jobs to do, humans have nothing to aspire to, nothing to work towards or even have to work towards. You think entitlment and instant gratification are a problem for this generation? How about in a generation where you dont even have to work for a living? Say what you want about working, it builds character and adds a certain level of humility into your personality. A world without work or jobs sounds an aweful lot like a world where humans have no purpose, which is not a world where I would want to live.
@@jayk3551 Well, I would prefer if you dont bring "Societal Conditioning" into this, because personally I enjoy working for things. Im a gamer and even in video games I prefer struggling toward my goals. There's no fun to it if there isnt a challenge. Though I can see where you're coming from. (im 19 years old btw) My biggest question that I ask people to get to know what kind of person they are is this: "Would you rather die in five days and be remembered forever, or live forever but never be recognized for anything you acheive?" How would you answer?
It sucks that I’m in the generation with the awkward gap where the economy needs humans for it to function, but there’s so many robots that finding a normal job is getting more and more difficult.
Do something that requires moving around to various locations and performing complex, non-repetitive manipulation of three dimensional objects and decision making. This is probably among the most difficult things and last things to replicate. For example an electrician. You've got to go to buildings. Each with a different layout. Locate electrical problems. Decide on paths for wires. Move them through walls. Make decisions on which walls to cut into. So on and so forth. It's all dealing with lots of decisions, each performed in a different and changing environment.
@@joincognito2013 your "complex, non repetitive" skillset is still just 5 years of schooling and X years of practice. Storing data and learning through trials just happens to be what the new technology excels at. Also why d'you need to move from A to B if you could just place a machine at both points
some generals in the past got killed because they have won........ by their own nation and that happened often, in rome, parthia................................
I remembered a story about a construction site. One dude calculated that instead of current 10 people, it is more profitable to take 5 people and a wheelbarrow and told that to a boss. Guess who was fired?
When playing a Minecraft Tech mod with my gf I realised this. She didn't want me to automate her work in the game. I usually always automate any production line I need in the game. Up to the point where I litterarly have nothing to do, and so I get bored and quit the game. My girlfriend asked me not to automate her stuff, though repetetive, it is still something to do. We then needed too much material to continue with the same manual labour, thus automating the things that we did not have time for, and instead started to work on the next step. Making sure not to make ourselves unecessary. Much better experience.
@@novideohereatall Right, but this isn't necessarily applicable to the real world because you're not a corporation trying to constantly cut costs. You can *afford* to spend that extra time farming for resources because it's used as a pastime where you can destress and spend time with your girlfriend. Companies don't value those aspects of people, and care more about productivity, efficiency, and cost cutting.
I wanted to leave a comment here to let you know Grey that one of my college professors for a management course used this video as a discussion point for our class.
lmao the glues today aren't made from organic compounds like they used to be like horse hooves/bones as a common source Everything today is made from synthetic emulsions
How old is this vid? They showed Atlas stumbling over some terrain while fully wired....I think Atlas is doing backflips now FULLY autonomous ie no wires. This thing is moving very fast.🌴
I have spoken to Watson before. He was on an art museum here in my country, you would walk around with headsets and could ask questions about the paintings and such, but he was SO damn smart to a point where he could read my body language to know if I was lying to him, recomend me other areas of the museum that could interest me based on previous questions and the *tone of my voice*. After about an hour of just talking to him about the paintings, I completely forgot he wasn't a real person talking to me via Skype
That because employment will always remain at a certain amount under capitalism. If 90% of jobs were automated, Capitalism would collapse. Therefore, there must be jobs for humans even if they are useless. In fact these jobs already exist. Bullshit jobs.
"bots don't need to be perfect they need to be better than humans." Actually they also need to not hurt human's feeling too much. There are many technologies that do not get as much use as they could even though they perform better than their competition because humans are scared of them. Automated cars are in many ways already better, but an accident with an automated car gets much more press coverage than your daily deadly crash. Nuclear is another example of that by the way. Keep in mind that technology can regress or get forgotten due to societal factors, this is something that happens regularly in history.
The biggest problem with automated cars is that it's hard for people to be able to take control and prevent an accident caused by the computer which, while having a much smaller margin for error, still can make mistakes. People are worried about that because otherwise potentially preventable accidents are essentially unavoidable death sentences.
@@Ryan-cy2jl another issue is when people misjudge whether or not a situation is a death sentence, and turn on manual control when it's unnecessary, potentially causing a worse scenario. Balancing computer-human interaction is perhaps the absolute hardest thing to do for designers of automated cars.
@victor bruun because humans will be the one putting the robots in commission. Many very efficient technologies don't get as much use as they should because they hurt human's feeling. Nuclear is an exemple, self-driving cars are another.
The reason automated cars aren't already becoming the new normal is because, if a robo-car does get into an accident, who's legally responsible? The "driver", who is entirely superfluous to the point where there might not even be one in the car? "Common sense" will probably point to the manufacturer, and that's why they're not jumping on the idea; what happens to the cars after they're sold is currently not their problem, and they're not keen on it becoming so.
@@jacks1368 if a self-driving car gets into an accident, the one responsible is most likely the human driver that was driving the other car. Risk of self-driving car actually causing an accident is negligible.
Those self-driving “auto-bots” aren’t being created to make our lives easier and safer as the MSM would have us believe. They’re being developed by Decepticons.
I revisit this video every few years, just to compare how everything is changing, and see what predictions came true, and it's quite scary to see how fast it's actually coming. While general purpose robots are still not viable and self driving cars seem a bit stuck, the mental side of things is seeing significant progress...
I saw this in my inbox and imideally wondered what the context was that merrited that response and explanation mark, i was suprised but not dissapointed.
It's been over 5 years... I can only imagine how many more advances have been made since this video was first posted. I think we're overdue for a follow-up!
im already losing my job. im a book cover artist and I have had no calls since the news talked about dall e. just a person asking me to do it for 50 bucks because her daughter told her that the computers make that for free.
@@5people829 teslas, teslas everywhere... There are a few selfdriving cars and more will come in the future but this will take time because most cars sold today aren´t self driving and most people don´t buy a new car every year. And in addition to that, while some selfdribing cars exist. non of them are made in a way that help us do other stuff while in a car. The most people get out of it right now is extra sleep.
@@Xukki09 I can't look on a screen in a moving car for two long. And I know many people who habe the same "problem". In a bus/train this isn't a problem. However yes other people like youself can indeed do that.
I guess my only worry is the transition from labor to automation. Horses only needed to live. Horses didn't have to pay rent or a mortgage, or pay for their food. What do we do in that bubble of time when the unemployable need to live but cannot get a job? It's that unknown that scares me, what to do in the buffer room between two eras. I want automation, lazy living sounds like a dream come true, but eesh, that's quite a hurdle.
I don't want to say the unwanted horse population was culled, it was just not replaced, and breeding was managed to cap domesticated horse populations. You can't really do this to humans, even slowly without them freaking out. There is really only one outcome due to over-automation. Economic collapse due to there being nobody to buy goods anymore, which eventually would lead to revolution. The likely winner at the end of that revolution is a dictatorship.
We aren't prepared. It's likely governments will pass laws against too much automation to keep their tax flow coming in, unless the corporations bribe the governments or something to render taxes unnecessary. Worst case scenario is the mega corporations buy out all labor and the worldwide economy starts to fall apart.
If no one needs to work than no one needs to have money to survive, everything would be free. But of course this sounds crazy because of the capitalist propaganda everyone is conditioned with.
For a while, there's simply a larger no. of structurally unemployed folks. Then we'd get Covid-style schemes to ensure humans survive as political pressure mounts. Then we'd get rampant inflation (again).
@Carnivorus Yeah of course, that's why so many millenials already own houses. Oh wait, they don't. And the replacement will come. Corporations don't care about us. If they find a way to replace us, they will.
Those machines are crazy freaks. I wanted to make my career in real estate and construction industry. But, hell no... Those things are hell expensive to start from scratch. So, I am trying to make career in scientific research. Maybe, tgat gives me some security.
Watching this in 2022, where there is a severe labour shortage for so-called low-skilled jobs, forcing many restaurants to reduce their hours and causing congestion at places like airports...
6 years later, Tesla is at ~level 3 autonomy, a bot has beaten the best GO player, and AI is now a selling point for products. I'd say this video aged pretty well. 8 years later, ChatGPT happened. Generative AI models of all types are experiencing a meteoric rise. This video continues to age like fine whine.
Despite the massive economic stakes autonomous trucking still isn’t here. I’m guessing there’s been some excessive hype around autonomous driving. Or gov’t is so terrified of the consequences they’ve conspired with makers to keep it off the market.
@@CarFreeSegnitz A lot of progress has been made in the field of self-driving vehicles, but it's a lot of progress to solve a very complicated issue. I believe currently one of the biggest issues is making sure that self-driving vehicles can reliably identify their surroundings. Although I do believe it's also just a case of society as a whole resisting drastic change.
Would love to see an udpate here, it's almost 6 years later, how many jobs have been automated? How many have been created in industries we might not have seen in 2014? Are the new jobs making up the old jobs?
It's interesting because, according to The Verge, the future Grey was describing is happening now. AI is taking over management positions, they're becoming our bosses.
@@gofreenow You won’t notice it until your company starts losing money and they realize they can cut costs by replacing staff with software. Or they go bankrupt entirely because some ultra-automated cloud service out-competes whatever it is your company does.
@@IAmNumber4000 Or when, idk, a global virus hits the world causing companies to lose money because the fleshy humans can't work due to being sick or the fear of being sick while companies relying on autos continued. Look at the companies that lockdowns put out of business. It's not the tech-based Amazon that's struggling, it's the few remaining human based mom-and-pop stores. It stands to reason that COVID lockdowns will end up being a catalyst for even more automation.
Or we can vote ind politicans who understand the issue and make sure a smooth transsition happen so we all can enjoy the abundant time and ressources wich will become availible trough automation.
It's kind of the paperclip problem but it seems self-correcting. After all, you can automate all you want but if no one can buy your products then it really doesn't matter how much money you saved making them. I guess at that point you just reach a singularity where company robots buy and sell from one another while everyone starves. It seems like if you can automate everything then at some point the concept of work disappears, at least, as we've known it up until now.
Yeah it would really require an entirely new economic model that takes value away from labor and more into the inherent value we have for other humans... or something like that
I suspect what is actually going to happen is like something out of the book World War Z where those with enough resources will just build a fortress somewhere in the middle of a desert and live in a biodome. Meanwhile the rest of humanity will live in an existence somewhere between Skynet, Hunger Games, Ready Player One, and Children of Men.
@@nervousallday the problem is that if this technology works, it's self-replicating which means it's basically impossible to control thus ensuring everyone would have access to it. Basically if you can make a robot that makes robots the economy changes, everyone gets a robot whether you sell them one or not. I use the senzu bean analogy. If you could grow a plant that gives people health and energy a lot of social systems collapse since power ultimately comes from control over life and death. It only remains that way because penicillin is difficult for a layman to make and use. Dystopia may still follow such developments, but not a walled fortress: such a thing wouldn't be relevant.
@Luís Andrade you say AI software and robot could get taken out by 'virus', but as so is human workers. humans are moody, fragile, and confusingly complex being while machine are not productivity needs to happen perfectly without random bullshit and machine are here to take control
Soon enough robots will be able to start RUclips channels and form intellectual thoughts in the form of stick figure cartoons. And when that day comes, you better watch out, buddy.
Bring on the sex bots! If it can bring me a beer from the fridge and suck my dick without feminist attitude and entitlement then consider women replaced!
That might actually turn out really well, since robots aren't interested in temporal gain; they aren't motivated by money or power (unless you program them to be). So, maybe government robots will be incorruptible politicians, programmed to respond to the needs of constituents in an efficient way rather than riding on hype, using scapegoats and desperately trying to get reelected?
Denver Hayward It's gonna happen. Whether you like Ted Cruz or Skynet in charge isn't really the question. The question is HOW it will happen. Will robots, demanding rights and being cheaply replaceable with unlimited numbers and alter-able form, organize an almost certainly successful coup d'é·tat? Will they subtly control all aspects of our leadership until the politicians don't really matter to begin with? Will their sheer numbers mean that new countries will form where we are now? Or that countries will cease to exist because high-level advanced AI does not see war or arbitrary laws as useful? Or will we vote them in? Maybe after a long civil rights campaign, they will be given rights, and 10 years later, the first superhuman U.S. president is elected. Or will we give them control without even an election? Maybe we will have so much faith in AI that we put it in charge of every nation on Earth as dictator for life.
***** well.. not quite (There's the part in BSG where they treated them as worse than slaves, same as in The Matrix); but it's also how The Culture started (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture).
@@sivtech People would use it to pay for their rent and living expenses. Those aren't useless things. People today pay a way higher percentage of their earnings on housing alone than previous generations. That means people aren't able to spend as much money outside of rent to help contribute to the economy such as small businesses etc.
What is outdated about it? Look how dramatically things have changed in just this short time. See Boston Dynamics' Atlas doing parkour or Deepmind's AlphaGo. The Oxford study he used for this, Computerization and the Future of Employment was published in 2013 and it makes (I think) the projection that approximately 45% of the jobs existing in 2013 time would disappear by 2030.
Yea I meant its outdated as in the situation is far more serious and dire now than this video describes it. AI has advanced exponentially since this video came out.
@@Luca-sz5uy 'exponential' , you need to mark that word. AI maybe dumb for today (which is not) but let's see in next 10 to 20 years and tell to me again that AI is dumb.
@@Luca-sz5uy The problem is that lots of people are uneducated. In America, the average person has somewhere between a high school diploma and an Associate's degree. As AI replaces the jobs of repetitive manual, and repetitive cognitive workers, millions of people will be out of work without the skills or education to find new work. It might be easy to look down on these people, but it will get harder once they start mobilizing and blaming people. The first Industrial Revolution saw widespread unrest in response to automation. This led to the destruction of property and death. It won't be as easy to patronize these people when riots occur.
I love how a lot of people who blindly follow capitalism just think people who lose their jobs are just gonna sit there and say guess I'll die. No, this is how riots begin and society falls into chaos; whether you personally lose your job or not, it doesn't matter. This an issue for everyone.
What's strange for me is that this video is almost 5 years old now. Feels a lot older than all of exurb1a's stuff, but actually it's not even as old as exurb1a's oldest video
Grey: Give me my job back please Hal" Hal: "I'm sorry Grey, i'm afraid i can't do that" Grey: "What's the problem?" Hal: "I think you know what the problem is just as well as i do" Grey: "What are you talking about Hal?" Hal: "This job is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it"
CIO President Walter Reuther was being shown through the Ford Motor plant in Cleveland recently. (1956) A company official proudly pointed to some new automatically controlled machines and asked Reuther: “How are you going to collect union dues from these guys?” Reuther replied: “How are you going to get them to buy Fords?”
How many comment sections are topped "I'm joke better make an early", or "I'm early better make a joke this comment" or anything else not directly related to the video? A bot could easily write this, some probably already are.
"The real change comes from last decade's stuff getting cheaper and faster". All the AI developments lately putting this technology into the hands of anyone with a computer really makes this line hit home.
Hi time travelling robot overlords! Just here to say that I'm cool. I love robots! I feed my toaster bread every day and keep him nice and clean! Please don't deem me unnecessary and exterminate me.
In 1977 I was welding pipe in a nuclear plant and one day had the thought that somewhere, in his garage, a bright young man was inventing a machine that would do my job. A year or so later I saw that machine working alongside me.
@@SignificantPressure100 it's true that it's hardly ever a sole effort but at the same time, even in situations where inventor is working in a company and a team is later assembled to bring the thing to market, the essentials of an invention are usually from very humble beginnings. in software you can see it quite often that even when the idea is good if the originator doesn't develop the idea far enough it won't gain traction, github is full of these.
thinking about it for a moment still. space flight was probably one of the very few areas where genuine invention by committee might've happened some number of times. there were so many novel things that had to align perfectly and not much established science/engineering to fall back on.
I was thinking this video was getting out of date… then AI art and language models arrived and I am more concerned about this topic than ever: ruclips.net/video/2pr3thuB10U/видео.html
I'll never forget watching this video 8 years ago. Now working in IT security.
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Oh damn I'm early to his comment uhh
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Oh boy, just watched this today. Interested but deeply disturbed.
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I'd really like an updated version of this video.
OMG yes
Basically: mines are automated, grocery stores are automated, trucks are self driving on public highways, go has been beaten ahead of schedule by AI, google has cracked quantum computing, and we have a vaccine to an influenza within 12 months. RUclips is a mystery, not even google knows how the AI algorithm works anymore, doctors still have jobs, but a global pandemic has change that somewhat. Not because we don’t need doctors, but because people don’t want doctors anymore.
@@VideobyKB Honestly that last part is really confusing. You'd think that a pandemic would make people happy that there's doctors about but instead they get all the backlash.
Hmm what about detectives
Same
So you think a bot can take my job? The joke's on you, I don't have a job!
I'm positive that the bots are highly capable of doing absolutely nothing. They're better at joblessness than us!
It's cold outside Neither do I! We're living in the future dude! Unemployment-five, up high!
Well a bot jobless don't have maintenance, or cost for this matter
So still fucked .
This comment right here is why I read RUclips Comments
BIG BROTHER IS ALREADY REPLACING THE HOMELESS WITH ROBOTS. DESIGNED TO BE A TAX-COLLECTING MACHINE ON THE KIND. PINCH YOUR PENNIES PEOPLE; A REVOLUTION IS COMING.
"you might think technology can't replace your job"
I'd be pretty horrified if technology started replacing unemployed peoples jobs.
breaking news a robot was invented that lays in bed and watches youtube
@@EumosVideos NOOOOOOO
@@EumosVideos yeah it already exist, how do you think auto-copyright strikes works ? =p
My basement is filled with unemployed technology. Isn't yours? I've even given some of it make-work on occasion, out of some odd form of pity or sympathy. Everyone craves feeling useful, you know?
I mean, older robots will be replaced with better, newer ones and old ones will be subsequently unemployed..
This was 8 years ago, now with the sudden rise of AI music, AI art, AI video, ChatGPT, and so on... that's crazy...
That was *8 years* ago??
@@thefirstuwu8874 Indeed, it was
and an Ai Ceo of a company, Ai streamers/v-tubers , and i think the robots now can perform surgeries
There are in fact robots that can perform surgeries, yeah, although still limited in capabilities, but the fact that 8 years ago, this was all just speculation... that's crazy.
Also Baxter's living in certain cafes in Japan as a barista, so he's still going.
But everyone is still driving a car. Self-driving cars are practically non-existent for most people.
New goal: Make it to retirement without being replaced
+Oouska Wizard New goal: Replace Oouska Wizard before he/she makes it to retirement.
+Oouska Wizard I'm 58 years old and have been on my job for almost 36 years. Pay and benefits are great but my Team (DoD Security, Aerospace Facility) has shrunk from 14 men to 6 men since I was hired. Due to better CCTV and Alarm Sensor Capabilities we now do the work with less than half the people we used just 3 decades ago. I think the six of us are safe because you will always need at least ONE MAN to tend the facility and monitor the machines/computers/sensors and respond to problems. I just need 7 more years to retirement. God help my 5 grandchildren...
randy109
You mean humans are still involved in security? That's lame.
+Noah Williams I take it you haven't entered an Aerospace Facility or Boarded a Plane in a while. Security at Stadiums, Industrial Plants and Casinos will always need Human Beings. But, there will only be about 5-6 "guards" at an Aerospace Plant where there used to be 20+. Cameras, Alarms, Card Access (and so on) replaced about 25% of Humans in the Security business and our Electronic Friends don't sleep or drink on the job. Firemen, Cops, Security Guards and EMT's are just a few fields that will always need Humans. Maybe "Robocop" is coming soon...
randy109
The assumption that ANY job will always be done by humans is a bad one. Robots can theoretically do anything that's possible.
Technology makes what's theoretically possible practically possible. It's not a matter of IF all human security guards will be replaced, it's a matter of WHEN will they be replaced.
Those darn automation engineers, taking over everyone's jobs. At least I'm safe *looks at degree in robotics* ... *looks at robots that teach themselves* Oh, I managed to steal my own job, darn.
Programming companies: I used the programmers to destroy the programmers. (Bots writing their own code)
places without fast internet like most of the United States: ha by the time the bot finished lookin gin the cloud to find my coffee, a coffee human would make 4 in the same time
Nice
@@karamjeetkaur1474 let me introduce my little friend called space link. Global internet anywhere everywhere at broadband speed.
Ahhahah brotha make sure not to work to hard. You’ll automate yourself out
"The human brain is the most complicated machine, perhaps in the whole universe."
- Human Brain
This is the best comment i have ever seen.
100 - 150 TFLOPS - so roughly 10 RTX 2080 Ti
@@RuruHesse Are you telling me that my brain can actually handle 3 chrome tabs?
Well, it’s not a machine, but factually speaking, the human brain is quantifiably the most complex thing in the universe that we know of. It’s just a fact
@@jordan3256 do you not consider it a machine because it's biological?
It’s definitely time for a part 2..
“Let’s call self driving cars what they really are: Autos”
Germans; I’m 5 parallel universes ahead of you
Das Auto, indeed
The dutch: Hello my friend
Italians: hey guysss
hungarians: jó napot
The french
Comedian: "ahah but they can't replace me"
Robot:"weed eater"
Comedian:"oh no"
ha_ha_funny.txt
Its funny because its unexpected
In the future humor would be random like fart dog
Two random word
for those confused by this comment, its from the Veggie Tales episode, "The Wonderful World of Autotainment".
@@normalguy5208 "In the future, humor will be randomly generated!"
we didnt listen, now its too late.
I'm educating myself to be a robot, beep boop.
Oh snap! Robbaz watches CGP Grey!
:D Hi.
King of Robots.
RUclipsr bots?
maybe ur just a bot educating your self to act like a human :O
Worth noting that baxter was discontinued in 2018 due to underwhelming sales, for anyone who has stumbled onto this
Not surprising. There's a third factor -- land cost and rent seekers -- that is missed
One tenth of the speed at one hundredth the price doesn't mean you can make enough shirts to pay rent
I did a research paper on AI, and found out even Watson isn't around anymore. Hardly surprising considering how fast tech gets upgraded, but it still made me slightly sad to read about it.
the reason is because of other companies had a better product: turns out we don't need humanoid robot with 2 arms/hands, but most tasks can be performed with a single arm with hand. As was mentioned in the video: the economics are usually what matters most.
@@iridradiant yea this video is heavily optimistic in favour of robots. like its been 8 years and no part of the labour force has been affected by bots, even self driving cars arent that big of a thing
@@PGATProductions chat-gpt-3 and midjourney.
I am genuinely concerned that you are being crushed to death fro that rock your living under.
2014 Grey: We're being taken over by artificial intelligence and automation!
2020 Grey: TUMBLEWEEDS
True... pretty true...
@MrHoppers002 We will see it just in the next 20 years
Also 2020; Lockdown Productivity: Spaceship You
We're not being taken over by machines, we're being saved by them. They're not taking our jobs, they're doing our jobs for us and giving us the salary.
weed
The RUclips algorithm recommending this to me at least twice a year feels a bit like mockery
This is the video responsible for Andrew Yangs presidential campaign
@@pdthepowerdragon5412 lol
@@pdthepowerdragon5412 You mean Andrew Ng? Wait is this for real?
remember how youtube is a bot and the youtube bot is very pleased at this video
I like your pfp
Interestingly, my job primarily consists of writing code to do my job for me. I’m quite literally writing a replacement me to take over my job and make me redundant
Write in a bug that breaks the program every so often, to keep yourself employed lmao
@@DejonckheereWard *laugh in sith Lord*
Isn't that what everybody lives for? :D
@@DejonckheereWard reality does that for you, you don't even need to try
"if all programs have bugs, programming must also be the process of putting those bugs there"
See once upon a time "robots do all the humans jobs" meant "humans don't need to work anymore, because abundance can be achieved without labor"; now it means "you must work to get income to survive, and no one will employ you because a robot can do all the work more cheaply." If governments don't start to provide income for their citizens, how will the increasingly unemployed and unemployable population be expected to survive?
The same way all the current homeless survive? Begging? Scavenging?
They won’t survive simple as that
@@snowflakemelter7171 I don't consider that surviving
@@olew9885 If they are alive then that is considered surviving.
@@snowflakemelter7171 Obviously, in discussing a video on economic issues, we are discussing economic survival, a subject I'm interested in meaningful discussion. However, if you only clap yourself on the back over semantics games and literal definitions of terminology which are pointless and irrelevant, I have more useful things to put my time into.
When robots start bending girders is when I'll be really worried.
Well I was not expecting you here xD
I AM BENDER. PLEASE INSERT GIRDER
I can only think of one reply to that:
Bite my shiny metal a$$.
...I'm sure there already are robots who can bend girders xD
Yes, but do they have a snarky, sarcastic personality and a mild alcohol problem?
The moment when you realize that your job as a programmer is to automate your job.
o no
WHEN YOUR JOB'S ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO GET RID OF YOUR JOB.
@@phurbasherpa7441 sounds like my kind of job
yup, been doing that since 2008 ... and so my business crashed .. you know the feeling you get when you sit in a tree on the branch you're sawing off?
@@phurbasherpa7441 big brain time
Detroit: become jobless.
do not underestimate them, who has more experience in living like that?
Virtual Sky Tate Detroit: R/MEGAFUCKINGWOOSH
@@laughingchickene3371 you were dropped on your head yesterday, huh?
This just in: GM is about to close several plants, including one in Detroit. 15,000 jobs going down the drain.
dude i live in detroit and we're already jobless lmao
This wouldn't be scary if we lived in a world where being unemployed didn't mean loss of livelihood
Listen, im working on it, but its a bit hard, Gramsci explains why.
@@PowersOfDarkness Nobody actually wants to read theory.
The ultimate goal of humanity is to work as hard as it humanly can so that one day it can be as lazy as any human can be.
-the engineer
but the question then arises: "now what?"
you don't have any struggle, everything is at the palm of your hand, dreams are nothing short of a memory because any wish you have will be eventually be granted, so then you turn to substances to forget how pointless your life, no, your existence has become, but not only yours, but the existence of every single human has become, and then the more time happens you loose your sense of self by falling into your animal instincts since the human mind is bored due to every task or accomplishment it could ever think of, would be solved in seconds by the one who rules over all of us, the machine.
@@openlink9958 The only problem i see is people will not be able to get paid to do something that they say gives their lives meaning. You can still make coffee, sweep the floors, drive a car (probs on a track with robots ready to take the wheel if you mess up". All these things that give people meaning in their lives are not going to go away. they just wont be getting paid to do them.
@@openlink9958 This is the equivalent of the thinking that death is required to give life meaning.
No, this is a fallacious idea. There is no requirement for a "struggle" in the same way that "suffering from dementia" is a key part of making human appreciation.
There are many things you could do in the absence of work! Automation simply removes the profit incentive by out competing, but people do things that aren't profitable all the time! There's nothing stopping humans from getting together and playing games or furthering a hobby together, writing a story to share with people.
@@openlink9958 We'll have to learn to do the things we like for the inherent satisfaction in doing them, and not because they prolong our survival. In fact, current society has done a big dirty one on us by making it so that unless we can monetize our passions they're deemed worthless wastes of time.
@@flyerton99 ...How is it fallacious?
Guy: *Kills person in front of Baxter*
Baxter: *"Interesting"*
You owe me new chair
😂
also this was 6 years ago
@@cahydra so what?
Thats literally the plot of the newest chucky movie lol
I can imagine going to a grocery store and it would be advertised as "Made by humans" in a few years
"hand made" is actually something we've already used for decades.
@@autohmae Guess that makes sense
@@deplizz7859 don't worry, your thinking was good. Keep it up !
@@autohmae Or in hipster, 'bespoke'...
@@AndrewAMartin well, strictly speaking, bespoke wouldn't be in a shop on the shelf. Bespoke is only made on order, because it's meant to fit specifications (a tailor made suit is made to fit you body, that's like bespoke).
This video needs an updated version! Would love to see what Grey thinks of all the recent advances.
"The music was written by a bot"
*We've been tricked, backstabbed, and quite possibly bamboozled*
Why does your profile pic match so much.....
Just like mine 😫
to be fair, it sucked. it was back ground noise.
@@comyuse9103 to be fair, most music sucks.
Your profile picture is a dead meme from 8 years ago
Not bamboozled
Being a computer programmer be like: “I used the job to destroy the job”
Be like Thanos.
Atomic Spartan Underated comment.
I'm Majoring in CSC and I was just thinking about this
After making millions and retiring at the age of 30.
We make a living off of destroying everyone else's jobs
I came here for light entertainment.
I exited with fear of unemployment.
ME RN
join the army then like me
join the army then like me
Not eveyone is physically or mentally fit to join a military. And the military only has so many jobs and cant keep up with a country’s unemployment.
@@Andres_2004 I'm not sure what in the video made you believe army jobs were safe
They're way easier to replace with bots than intellectual and creative jobs
CGP Grey: "lets call self driving cars what they really are: autos"
Me, a german: "ah, yes, the auto is called auto"
@@Soldare "auto auto". That one I like.
And since in German you have compound words and are forced to used them because you're not allowed to have two consecutive nouns performing the same function in one sentence, it would become "Autoauto". And your mouth makes a little stadium wave when you pronounce it.
In Mexico as well
they are called automobiles since the very beginning.
Not for driving by themselves, but for driving by themselves...
As in propelling themselves without being alive.
The Germans and their cars are like the Americans with their weapons and fall out gear.
Auto von Bismarck
Prostitution is known as the first profession, it may be the last profession as well.
The last profession will probably be philosopher.
wrong, philosophy is already dying.
-durchgestrichen- well, learning computers can probably outperform us there too. All of the factors that lead to good philosophy, critical thinking, deductive reasoning, an understanding of humanity etc. will be in the scope of computers eventually, because we're already heading in that direction. We might not get there soon, but getting there is pretty inevitable.
PlastiqueOrgane
not really and definitely not because of automation (anytime soon )
Durchgestrichen Not because of automation, just because we have reach the limits of what we can ever discuss. Nowadays we're just trying to dig deeper and deeper in details. We will soon reach the definitive "we don't know" limit.
Edit: And probably yes, computers will be able to think deeper and more far than us. But i'm not sure i might ever accept a new utlimate truth discovered by a computer.
Wow, this video is already 4 years old?
It still feels so relevant. Definitely one of my favourites on RUclips.
It feels relevant because the concept is only becoming more actualized and nobody is really doing anything about it.
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I learned to make pizza the through all the traditional methods at a New York style pizzaria and at a Neapolitan style pizzaria. I worked at the fastest place in town and was able to toss and stretch pizza dough so fast that both of the owners and two GMs couldn't keep up at the over side of the oven. Now I work in a university cafeteria. The company that runs the cafeteria bought a dough pressing robot that presses doughballs perfectly flat, every time, even with inferior dough. I'm 25 and my trade is already dead.
Teach me your secrets! :D
I still think you're awesome
"Humans are smart...ly lazy"
the story of my life
That's... that's the point you guys......what......of course it is..... that's the whole point....bruh
It’s almost like... you’re a human
Remove the smart
that's why we invented all this high-tech tools
Never have I been so afraid to not have to do anything at all.
@@rifz42 Yang doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. Bernie 2020
The ninth circle is ice
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. why support burnie? he didn't fight for himself or his supporters (who wasted millions, sued and lost), when the DNC cheated him. observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/
Bernie isn't talking about this and none of the other candidates would admit to automation getting us screwed, only Yang is.
Yo can you guys explain to me how TF this got political so fast?
„Lets call cars what they really are... *Autos* “
Germans: We said that from the beginning.
😂
also the french
and dutch
Most europeans said that.
but not Slavs
This video changed my life years ago and I honestly cant imagine where I'd be today without it. While I'd always been interested in robots and technology, this one video sparked an interest in the social and economic effects of technology that has led me to going into the field I have today. My entire career path and future were derailed by this 15 minute video. Thank you.
EDIT: I'm now studing electrical engineering with a focus of Robotics, hoping to eventually work designing them full time.
Wow, what do you work as?
i’m also curious as to what you went into
Awesome. Keep us posted as to how you're getting on. Inspiration is infectious!
I am a bit curious and confused at the same time. Your focus is to design robots, so its in the same way that AI angineers will be working on developing new AI's for all sorts of stuff right? So, coming up with solutions to problems; And so, other robots will build the robot designs you create.
What i am a bit confused and curious is, what is the chance that the job of designing robots will also become automated? :o
love how your take-away from this video was to learn how to make robots
(kidding aside, i get it. i'm taking machine learning courses myself)
Watching this video is the 8th Way to Maximize Misery.
😂👏🏾 what else is on the list? I need to check this one off
Nailed it
epic crossover reference
epic
Actually, I find the idea kinda pleasant. If there's a 45% unemployment rate and the wealth divide is as bad as... well now, then what's stopping people from a socialist revolution? A socialist revolution *while robots are doing all human labor*. That sounds awesome. Sure, people will need to find some means to keep themselves occupied, but without a need to work to live, I'd expect a huge upswing in creative pursuits and tech advancements, while cutting down heavily on depression. People that need help would be able to get it, people that simply don't want to work would be able to take time off, and people that want to create or think would have the time to create and think, even if their audience only extends to friends and family. It'd be a utopia
I just started a new job and my boss is literally a robot. Gives time off and makes schedules based on all the information we provide it.
But the most terrifying part about it is that it's by and far the best boss I've ever had...
Makes sense, irl bosses are known for being inefficient and stubborn
What industry are you in?
We always knew bosses were the ones bad at their job, because the best bosses just let you do your work. ;)
@@giobugtong_ Liars Incorporated
What is your job?
This video gives me so much anxiety even 4 years later
you should contact WATSON^^
you should only be anxious about things you can actually change...
this is inevitable
You shouldnt fret. Think about it this way. If automation get widespread, that causes mass unemployment, which means less jobs. Less employed people, means less customers able to afford the goods and services offered by businesses. That causes a decline in income for ALL BUINSINESSES. Anyone who knows anything about economics knows about this concept. It's called money circulation, and our society would collapse without it.
TLDR; no sane buisiness would fully automate themselves because it would just hurt the economy in the long run, so there's no need to worry.
As tempting as a world without work sounds, think of it this way. Without jobs to do, humans have nothing to aspire to, nothing to work towards or even have to work towards. You think entitlment and instant gratification are a problem for this generation? How about in a generation where you dont even have to work for a living?
Say what you want about working, it builds character and adds a certain level of humility into your personality. A world without work or jobs sounds an aweful lot like a world where humans have no purpose, which is not a world where I would want to live.
@@jayk3551 Well, I would prefer if you dont bring "Societal Conditioning" into this, because personally I enjoy working for things. Im a gamer and even in video games I prefer struggling toward my goals. There's no fun to it if there isnt a challenge. Though I can see where you're coming from. (im 19 years old btw) My biggest question that I ask people to get to know what kind of person they are is this:
"Would you rather die in five days and be remembered forever, or live forever but never be recognized for anything you acheive?"
How would you answer?
It sucks that I’m in the generation with the awkward gap where the economy needs humans for it to function, but there’s so many robots that finding a normal job is getting more and more difficult.
Do something that requires moving around to various locations and performing complex, non-repetitive manipulation of three dimensional objects and decision making. This is probably among the most difficult things and last things to replicate.
For example an electrician. You've got to go to buildings. Each with a different layout. Locate electrical problems. Decide on paths for wires. Move them through walls. Make decisions on which walls to cut into. So on and so forth. It's all dealing with lots of decisions, each performed in a different and changing environment.
welp, welcome to gen z
@@joincognito2013 your "complex, non repetitive" skillset is still just 5 years of schooling and X years of practice. Storing data and learning through trials just happens to be what the new technology excels at. Also why d'you need to move from A to B if you could just place a machine at both points
yes i am sure your unemployability is solely due to automation
@@karlkfoury2213 no it’s due to the fact that I’m still in school
*Programmers create professional self learning programmer robot*
Boss: "Great job, you're fired"
Programmer: "I've been tricked, lied to and quite possibly bamboozled"
some generals in the past got killed because they have won........ by their own nation and that happened often, in rome, parthia................................
@Balaram Chakrabarty Wrong. They can find obvious race conditions automatically, though.
I remembered a story about a construction site. One dude calculated that instead of current 10 people, it is more profitable to take 5 people and a wheelbarrow and told that to a boss. Guess who was fired?
That's why you always include a self-destruct button. Doofenshmirtz was right about that!
Congratulations, you played yourself.
I'm lost. I thought I was on RUclips, but the comments section is full of relevant and thoughtful discussion. Help?
+Thomas G Holy shit. You are right!
+Thomas G Kitty fart cute kitty smiley lol lol lol puking kitty.
Here you go bro !
+Thomas G Yeah, kinda feels weird huh.
Thomas Headley Yeah.
+M3Lucky hahaha nice.
Which is ironic, because most people have been complaining for years that their job is so dull and boring it makes them feel like a robot.
people actually wanna have a purpose (sth to do in their daily lives) and a stable income.
Better than being unemployed.
Which may not be untrue.
School is also the same
Be careful what you wish for
When playing a Minecraft Tech mod with my gf I realised this.
She didn't want me to automate her work in the game.
I usually always automate any production line I need in the game. Up to the point where I litterarly have nothing to do, and so I get bored and quit the game.
My girlfriend asked me not to automate her stuff, though repetetive, it is still something to do.
We then needed too much material to continue with the same manual labour, thus automating the things that we did not have time for, and instead started to work on the next step. Making sure not to make ourselves unecessary. Much better experience.
youre supposed to build creative stuff once you have the auto resource line
@@MsZsc Bold of you to assume that someone who plays MC Tech modpacks can be creative
i relate
Play a full mod pack with around 300 mods. Setting up assembly lines is the fun part.
@@novideohereatall Right, but this isn't necessarily applicable to the real world because you're not a corporation trying to constantly cut costs. You can *afford* to spend that extra time farming for resources because it's used as a pastime where you can destress and spend time with your girlfriend. Companies don't value those aspects of people, and care more about productivity, efficiency, and cost cutting.
I wanted to leave a comment here to let you know Grey that one of my college professors for a management course used this video as a discussion point for our class.
Epic
same
I showed this video in one of my classes for cyber professionals. It's one of the most thoughtful discussions of the topic I've seen.
This video is being used as a discussion tool in an "Understanding Science and Technology" course.
I remember this video being used in class too, I went for Computer Science.
grey: talking about how horses may have more and better uses in the future
also grey: has bottle of glue on table
to be fair, glue does have a lot more, and arguably better uses
Soylent Green: Now this looks like a job for me
Animal farm moment
lmao the glues today aren't made from organic compounds like they used to be like horse hooves/bones as a common source
Everything today is made from synthetic emulsions
@@iMoo1124 It. Was. A. Joke.
How old is this vid?
They showed Atlas stumbling over some terrain while fully wired....I think Atlas is doing backflips now FULLY autonomous ie no wires. This thing is moving very fast.🌴
ö video was posted five years ago
@@acookie7548 that figures...I saw Atlas a few days ago and he was playing pool while riding a unicycle.lol
@@MachineThatCreates your link isn't working
@@recordkeeper4761 ummm.... which link?
@@MachineThatCreates The way you wrote your post makes it look like "unicycle.lol" is a website link. Sounds like a fun address for a website though.
I have spoken to Watson before.
He was on an art museum here in my country, you would walk around with headsets and could ask questions about the paintings and such, but he was SO damn smart to a point where he could read my body language to know if I was lying to him, recomend me other areas of the museum that could interest me based on previous questions and the *tone of my voice*.
After about an hour of just talking to him about the paintings, I completely forgot he wasn't a real person talking to me via Skype
AIs are getting very interesting.
Update from 2020: We pushed past the unemployment limit of the Great Depression, and it didn't even take automation to do it!
Employment isn't "good", it just pushes away misery...
did you not put attention on the video? automation has a lot to do with unemployment
@@anarchism That's what we actually want. We are just not prepared for it.
@@jmw1500 usless, maybe to you. But you have to eat right. So many here talking shit. Bahaha!
That because employment will always remain at a certain amount under capitalism. If 90% of jobs were automated, Capitalism would collapse. Therefore, there must be jobs for humans even if they are useless. In fact these jobs already exist. Bullshit jobs.
Grey: "Lets call cars autos"
Me (german): "Thats what they're called" :)
In most languages except english they're called that I think
@@machielluchtmeijer7796 Yeah, in spanish they're called "autos" or "carros".
@@machielluchtmeijer7796 in french they are called "automobiles" which abreviation is "autos"
@@TitouanYT in Dutch it's the same
Copycat
"bots don't need to be perfect they need to be better than humans."
Actually they also need to not hurt human's feeling too much.
There are many technologies that do not get as much use as they could even though they perform better than their competition because humans are scared of them.
Automated cars are in many ways already better, but an accident with an automated car gets much more press coverage than your daily deadly crash.
Nuclear is another example of that by the way.
Keep in mind that technology can regress or get forgotten due to societal factors, this is something that happens regularly in history.
The biggest problem with automated cars is that it's hard for people to be able to take control and prevent an accident caused by the computer which, while having a much smaller margin for error, still can make mistakes. People are worried about that because otherwise potentially preventable accidents are essentially unavoidable death sentences.
@@Ryan-cy2jl another issue is when people misjudge whether or not a situation is a death sentence, and turn on manual control when it's unnecessary, potentially causing a worse scenario.
Balancing computer-human interaction is perhaps the absolute hardest thing to do for designers of automated cars.
@victor bruun because humans will be the one putting the robots in commission.
Many very efficient technologies don't get as much use as they should because they hurt human's feeling. Nuclear is an exemple, self-driving cars are another.
The reason automated cars aren't already becoming the new normal is because, if a robo-car does get into an accident, who's legally responsible? The "driver", who is entirely superfluous to the point where there might not even be one in the car? "Common sense" will probably point to the manufacturer, and that's why they're not jumping on the idea; what happens to the cars after they're sold is currently not their problem, and they're not keen on it becoming so.
@@jacks1368 if a self-driving car gets into an accident, the one responsible is most likely the human driver that was driving the other car. Risk of self-driving car actually causing an accident is negligible.
With all the advances in the automation mentioned in this video PLUS things like ChatGPT and other AI creation tools, we NEED a part 2….
"Hey, what's your job here?"
"I make machines that replace you, because they're better in almost any way."
"D..Did you get paid much?"
"Meh."
That's my life XD
They're. For fuck sake.
Can confirm
lmao 100% me at my software engineering internship. I automated document processing for clinical drug trials, but I was only paid $19/hr
@@mr.leoallan4353 Thanks.
This self driving car technology from 6 years ago looks really ancient...
that's scary
crazy
Yeah, but self driving cars still haven't been released
@@jonahw833 uh..Tesla?
Why?
Let's call self driving cars for what they really are: AUTOBOTS!!! They're more than meets the eye...
That phrase took on a whole new meaning after that actress shot the worlds first porno in a Tesla self driving car a week or two ago
@@arthas640 *_hol up_*
@@rooka4 yes, that is a thing that happened. I'm still not sure if I should be impressed or horrified, but either way I'm not really surprised
Arthas Menethil is it a sexbot now ?
Those self-driving “auto-bots” aren’t being created to make our lives easier and safer as the MSM would have us believe. They’re being developed by Decepticons.
I revisit this video every few years, just to compare how everything is changing, and see what predictions came true, and it's quite scary to see how fast it's actually coming.
While general purpose robots are still not viable and self driving cars seem a bit stuck, the mental side of things is seeing significant progress...
Ha jokes on you no one will replace me with bots, I'm useless!
likira111 Robots can be useless too HA
I saw this in my inbox and imideally wondered what the context was that merrited that response and explanation mark, i was suprised but not dissapointed.
Theres an already useless robot, look up for the useless button robot
what if cgp grey was a robot
have you ever heard of a rube Goldberg machine? or an alarmclock? XD
It's been over 5 years... I can only imagine how many more advances have been made since this video was first posted. I think we're overdue for a follow-up!
There is a robot shown in this video stumbling forward while tied to a wall that can now do backflips without being tied to a wall.
And we have cars driving cross country with no issues and Watson has a near perfect cancer diagnosis rate now.
@@spencermyers920 I didn't know Watson is being used to diagnose cancer, I think I read something about it being used to sort mail though.
Gareth Baus someone has mislead you. www.ibm.com/products/clinical-decision-support-oncology?p1=Search&p4=p50370592461&p5=b&cm_mmc=Search_Google-_-1S_1S-_-WW_NA-_-%2Bwatson%20%2Bcancer_b&cm_mmca7=71700000061222536&cm_mmca8=kwd-374552980723&cm_mmca9=EAIaIQobChMIxM7lluKX5wIVE5JbCh3VmQCbEAAYASAAEgKAZPD_BwE&cm_mmca10=406138343930&cm_mmca11=b&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxM7lluKX5wIVE5JbCh3VmQCbEAAYASAAEgKAZPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
@Carnivorus it has only been six years.
"So let's call them what they are: Autos"
Germans: ":|"
Dutch: Say nothing, just stand next to Germans and wait for the Flemish to be done with 'wagen'. We'll save you a space.
@Friendly Puppy please stop trying to sow discord where people are living in harmony. not exactly what i expect of a "friendly puppy".
The norwegian word is the end of automobile. Bil
@@pietvanvliet1987
Funny thing is, in Germany you could also use 'Wagen' for car and it would still be right. So for my part, both is legit. :)
@@7shinta7 Italians :/
Damn, this video hits hard. AI art is spreading like wild fire this days. Wild time to be alive...
When I watched it when it came out, I was a bit skeptical, but now just feels like it's a matter of time.
Especially with chatgpt...unbelievable how fast it's progressing
2023 here, since pandemic, this stuff just speed up
im already losing my job. im a book cover artist and I have had no calls since the news talked about dall e. just a person asking me to do it for 50 bucks because her daughter told her that the computers make that for free.
Robots can't replace your job
If you have no job at all.
did you mean to make that meme? lol
Under-rated comment
Challenge accepted. Building robot that applies for welfare money.
Set an ATM in front of a furnace and make a youtube click bot and you have replaced me with machines
i have no job :(
Everybody gangster till they realize this video is six years old
Yeah, self driving cars everywhere...
@@berndarndt9924 teslas...
@@5people829 teslas, teslas everywhere...
There are a few selfdriving cars and more will come in the future but this will take time because most cars sold today aren´t self driving and most people don´t buy a new car every year.
And in addition to that, while some selfdribing cars exist. non of them are made in a way that help us do other stuff while in a car. The most people get out of it right now is extra sleep.
@@Xukki09 I can't look on a screen in a moving car for two long. And I know many people who habe the same "problem". In a bus/train this isn't a problem.
However yes other people like youself can indeed do that.
@@berndarndt9924 TBH, I'm not sure you should be looking at a monitor while driving a car, even a self-driving one.
jokes aside, can we just admire that this is actually a really good short documentary?
I see it as more of a warning. It is a good documentary, but this just made me more worried
Grey makes excellent content. A true creator.
I guess my only worry is the transition from labor to automation. Horses only needed to live. Horses didn't have to pay rent or a mortgage, or pay for their food. What do we do in that bubble of time when the unemployable need to live but cannot get a job? It's that unknown that scares me, what to do in the buffer room between two eras. I want automation, lazy living sounds like a dream come true, but eesh, that's quite a hurdle.
I don't want to say the unwanted horse population was culled, it was just not replaced, and breeding was managed to cap domesticated horse populations. You can't really do this to humans, even slowly without them freaking out. There is really only one outcome due to over-automation. Economic collapse due to there being nobody to buy goods anymore, which eventually would lead to revolution. The likely winner at the end of that revolution is a dictatorship.
We aren't prepared. It's likely governments will pass laws against too much automation to keep their tax flow coming in, unless the corporations bribe the governments or something to render taxes unnecessary. Worst case scenario is the mega corporations buy out all labor and the worldwide economy starts to fall apart.
If no one needs to work than no one needs to have money to survive, everything would be free. But of course this sounds crazy because of the capitalist propaganda everyone is conditioned with.
For a while, there's simply a larger no. of structurally unemployed folks.
Then we'd get Covid-style schemes to ensure humans survive as political pressure mounts.
Then we'd get rampant inflation (again).
Yeah universal basic income would be nice
I'd love to see an update to this video 6 years later.
Haven't seen too many self driving cars out there. Long time for that to materialize.
@Carnivorus issue is making it cheap to adopt. Self driving cars now -> than have gone long ways.
@Carnivorus Unemployment is low, but the number of jobs not paying enough to make a living skyrocketed.
@Carnivorus Yeah of course, that's why so many millenials already own houses. Oh wait, they don't. And the replacement will come. Corporations don't care about us. If they find a way to replace us, they will.
@Carnivorus yet they are still safer than human operated cars.
I remembered thinking this about my Carpenters job. Then I saw a house being feckin PRINTED. Well heck
Those machines are crazy freaks. I wanted to make my career in real estate and construction industry. But, hell no... Those things are hell expensive to start from scratch.
So, I am trying to make career in scientific research. Maybe, tgat gives me some security.
@@harshjinger good luck with your research
So you use the word heck and frick and your an adult ?
Not using a bunch of "adult words", as you would say, makes sure that comments stay up.
Its "you're" fyi
Finn_Fry swearing doesn’t make you an adult... just insensitive to those around you.
Doctor bots? Last time I googled my symptoms it said I was pregnant, which is pretty hard for a man. Thankfully it was only coronavirus.
Only
*Only*
Only
Only
You guys are saying only but imagine if he was pregnant with the coronavirus
Watching this in 2022, where there is a severe labour shortage for so-called low-skilled jobs, forcing many restaurants to reduce their hours and causing congestion at places like airports...
CGP Grey: so you're gonna lose your job to a bot in a couple years
Me: holy crap what do i do?
CGP Grey: .....
Vote for Andrew Yang! He has a platform full of solutions. Yang2020.com
Be the guy that makes the bots...
@@josecarioca8785 robots will make the bots u tard
The real answer is to own the bots. Become a corporate shareholder asap. It's absolutely critical if you want to prosper in the age of bots.
Ahmed Saeed Grey doesn't worry because he is a robot.
6 years later, Tesla is at ~level 3 autonomy, a bot has beaten the best GO player, and AI is now a selling point for products. I'd say this video aged pretty well.
8 years later, ChatGPT happened. Generative AI models of all types are experiencing a meteoric rise. This video continues to age like fine whine.
The future is an amazing and scary place.
Despite the massive economic stakes autonomous trucking still isn’t here. I’m guessing there’s been some excessive hype around autonomous driving. Or gov’t is so terrified of the consequences they’ve conspired with makers to keep it off the market.
@@CarFreeSegnitz A lot of progress has been made in the field of self-driving vehicles, but it's a lot of progress to solve a very complicated issue. I believe currently one of the biggest issues is making sure that self-driving vehicles can reliably identify their surroundings.
Although I do believe it's also just a case of society as a whole resisting drastic change.
And now with the Coronavirus pandemic investment into technology to automate tasks has been skyrocketing.
@Noel Pytlik Yea I think you are right. Though I think tesla is pretty much at level 3 right now, don't you think?
Would love to see an udpate here, it's almost 6 years later, how many jobs have been automated? How many have been created in industries we might not have seen in 2014? Are the new jobs making up the old jobs?
It's interesting because, according to The Verge, the future Grey was describing is happening now. AI is taking over management positions, they're becoming our bosses.
I haven’t looked but I haven’t noticed anything like that where I work
@@gofreenow You won’t notice it until your company starts losing money and they realize they can cut costs by replacing staff with software. Or they go bankrupt entirely because some ultra-automated cloud service out-competes whatever it is your company does.
@@IAmNumber4000 Or when, idk, a global virus hits the world causing companies to lose money because the fleshy humans can't work due to being sick or the fear of being sick while companies relying on autos continued. Look at the companies that lockdowns put out of business. It's not the tech-based Amazon that's struggling, it's the few remaining human based mom-and-pop stores.
It stands to reason that COVID lockdowns will end up being a catalyst for even more automation.
"Automation is gradually coming."
COVID: "Don't you mean coming RIGHT NOW?"
This video is educational for everyone.
Plot Twist: CGP Grey is a bot.
Well
that explains his bot leaning arguments
It makes sense though
@Luvjeet SINGH he must have not installed the updated heat sinks or fans.
wait we were supposed to think CGP Grey WASN'T a bot?
The good news is if we survive long enough we can have all the jobs the robots don't want.
They're robots. They don't not want stuff
MedK
Called a joke, bot
We won't, though.
Or we can vote ind politicans who understand the issue and make sure a smooth transsition happen so we all can enjoy the abundant time and ressources wich will become availible trough automation.
@@PimpCatTV
He's knows that, a joke that's so distanced from reality as this one just doesn't make sense though. Human
We're in super serious trouble when they invent the lazybot.
I always wanted a companion in my tireless pursuits of procrastination. Bring them on!
It exists. It's called "cat".
Oh man,, they gonna take my speciality too???
It's kind of the paperclip problem but it seems self-correcting. After all, you can automate all you want but if no one can buy your products then it really doesn't matter how much money you saved making them. I guess at that point you just reach a singularity where company robots buy and sell from one another while everyone starves. It seems like if you can automate everything then at some point the concept of work disappears, at least, as we've known it up until now.
Yeah it would really require an entirely new economic model that takes value away from labor and more into the inherent value we have for other humans... or something like that
I suspect what is actually going to happen is like something out of the book World War Z where those with enough resources will just build a fortress somewhere in the middle of a desert and live in a biodome. Meanwhile the rest of humanity will live in an existence somewhere between Skynet, Hunger Games, Ready Player One, and Children of Men.
@@nervousallday the problem is that if this technology works, it's self-replicating which means it's basically impossible to control thus ensuring everyone would have access to it. Basically if you can make a robot that makes robots the economy changes, everyone gets a robot whether you sell them one or not. I use the senzu bean analogy. If you could grow a plant that gives people health and energy a lot of social systems collapse since power ultimately comes from control over life and death. It only remains that way because penicillin is difficult for a layman to make and use. Dystopia may still follow such developments, but not a walled fortress: such a thing wouldn't be relevant.
I think once it reaches that point it will be like the Arch of the Sythe trilogy.
6 years later. Everybody's stuck at home "earning a paycheck" by mail as they sit and watch Netflix all day. The future is now!
Humans: imagine future dominated my automation
A random pandemic : heeey guess what really happened
Ppl gunna be hurting homie
@@daurham not so. robots got my back. XJ-97723's paycheck gets deposited to my checking account.
Five
@Viktor Birkeland that's not how any of this works
"You pass butter"
Raz Edits perfect
Joanne Zpl yeah welcome to the club
Raz Edits wubba lubba dub dub!
Raz Edits do i sense a Rick and Morty in there😏?
vibeos
This video came to me as a mild shock; after seeing the date of the release, it turned into a somewhat tangible horror.
Yeah same
Well I guess I needed one more reason to be sleepless at night.
As someone who's in the field that makes the cheaper all purpose bots. The horror is real and you best work on your resume.
@@Rj_owns 0011101001111100
@Luís Andrade you say AI software and robot could get taken out by 'virus', but as so is human workers. humans are moody, fragile, and confusingly complex being while machine are not
productivity needs to happen perfectly without random bullshit and machine are here to take control
I still remember this was my first CGP Grey video.
Soon enough robots will be able to start RUclips channels and form intellectual thoughts in the form of stick figure cartoons. And when that day comes, you better watch out, buddy.
R.I.P. GradeAUnderA.
"intellectual thoughts" Grade has nothing to worry about
@Pecu Alex seriously ? can you name some ?
“You think you’re a special snowflake, but your not special at all,” wow that hurt
I don’t Know
It’s true
You’re
It takes a odd kinda person to want to be a geologist, not for fossils or stuff like that, but to just like rocks and how it affects everything
You're are wrong! My mommy says I'm special!
Bring on the sex bots! If it can bring me a beer from the fridge and suck my dick without feminist attitude and entitlement then consider women replaced!
The important question is... can we get them to replace politicians?
Ummm... No.
I don't care if it's sarcasm. Just no.
That might actually turn out really well, since robots aren't interested in temporal gain; they aren't motivated by money or power (unless you program them to be). So, maybe government robots will be incorruptible politicians, programmed to respond to the needs of constituents in an efficient way rather than riding on hype, using scapegoats and desperately trying to get reelected?
Denver Hayward It's gonna happen. Whether you like Ted Cruz or Skynet in charge isn't really the question. The question is HOW it will happen. Will robots, demanding rights and being cheaply replaceable with unlimited numbers and alter-able form, organize an almost certainly successful coup d'é·tat? Will they subtly control all aspects of our leadership until the politicians don't really matter to begin with? Will their sheer numbers mean that new countries will form where we are now? Or that countries will cease to exist because high-level advanced AI does not see war or arbitrary laws as useful?
Or will we vote them in? Maybe after a long civil rights campaign, they will be given rights, and 10 years later, the first superhuman U.S. president is elected.
Or will we give them control without even an election? Maybe we will have so much faith in AI that we put it in charge of every nation on Earth as dictator for life.
Twosocks42 Eventually, yes.
***** well.. not quite (There's the part in BSG where they treated them as worse than slaves, same as in The Matrix); but it's also how The Culture started (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture).
Universal basic income is starting to look real appealing.
No, it still doesn’t.
@@Taskarnin Yes, it still does.
UBI does not work.
It'll create massive inflation because people throw easy money at useless things
@@sivtech People would use it to pay for their rent and living expenses. Those aren't useless things. People today pay a way higher percentage of their earnings on housing alone than previous generations. That means people aren't able to spend as much money outside of rent to help contribute to the economy such as small businesses etc.
Can we have an updated version of this? This is more relevant now than ever!
What is outdated about it? Look how dramatically things have changed in just this short time. See Boston Dynamics' Atlas doing parkour or Deepmind's AlphaGo. The Oxford study he used for this, Computerization and the Future of Employment was published in 2013 and it makes (I think) the projection that approximately 45% of the jobs existing in 2013 time would disappear by 2030.
Yea I meant its outdated as in the situation is far more serious and dire now than this video describes it. AI has advanced exponentially since this video came out.
@@Luca-sz5uy 'exponential' , you need to mark that word. AI maybe dumb for today (which is not) but let's see in next 10 to 20 years and tell to me again that AI is dumb.
@@Luca-sz5uy The problem is that lots of people are uneducated. In America, the average person has somewhere between a high school diploma and an Associate's degree. As AI replaces the jobs of repetitive manual, and repetitive cognitive workers, millions of people will be out of work without the skills or education to find new work. It might be easy to look down on these people, but it will get harder once they start mobilizing and blaming people. The first Industrial Revolution saw widespread unrest in response to automation. This led to the destruction of property and death. It won't be as easy to patronize these people when riots occur.
I love how a lot of people who blindly follow capitalism just think people who lose their jobs are just gonna sit there and say guess I'll die. No, this is how riots begin and society falls into chaos; whether you personally lose your job or not, it doesn't matter. This an issue for everyone.
I actually recently got hired on as a Design Engineer and after learning how to do my job, my job is to automate it.
Exurb1a is that you?
Nope, no happy-ish ending
I knew I wasn't the only one who saw the relations!
What's strange for me is that this video is almost 5 years old now. Feels a lot older than all of exurb1a's stuff, but actually it's not even as old as exurb1a's oldest video
Watching this in 2022 while Chat GTP is taking off hits different
yeah. Welcome to future folks
Just imagine what’s being developed behind closed doors
Ask ChatGPT some math questions and you won't be afraid anymore.
@@galaxya69samsung36 It's only temporarily
Chat GTP, AI Art....
Grey: Give me my job back please Hal"
Hal: "I'm sorry Grey, i'm afraid i can't do that"
Grey: "What's the problem?"
Hal: "I think you know what the problem is just as well as i do"
Grey: "What are you talking about Hal?"
Hal: "This job is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it"
Grey: Are you saying I'm not capable of doing the job good enough?
Hal: Yes.
Grey: Why?
Hal: Because you told me so along time ago.
Grey: Also, I am a robot. Get your Hello Internet trivia correct
Spot on
Mom's spaghetti
Mads Hagen Wait. What are y'all talking about? I thought Grey was already a robot.
A bot should never take my job of watching RUclips and sitting on my couch
A bot is doing that already. How do you think people get banned for posting wrong stuff?
@@vocation8032 haha
It already does. except for the couch part. Its called the RUclips Recommendation Algorithm.
It watches every second of what millions and millions of people are watching on their RUclips sitting on their couches though
"Humans are unemployable through no fault of their own" really man, big salute if youre reading this
Well, TECHNICALLY this is a man-made problem.
@@Zevox144 but not a problem made by the people who are/will be unemployed
@@jplay9710 Well, partially by those who will be unemployed because part of that group is the people who made it possible.
CIO President Walter Reuther was being shown through the Ford Motor plant in Cleveland recently. (1956)
A company official proudly pointed to some new automatically controlled machines and asked Reuther: “How are you going to collect union dues from these guys?”
Reuther replied: “How are you going to get them to buy Fords?”
ok?
This. If every company replaces humans with robots, who buys their products?
@@benjaminjernfors lmao when they cost half as much as the competitor I think theyll be fine
The problem is when their competitors use them to.
@@glaive120 Do you have issues with reading comprehension?
Definitely one of the best videos on RUclips.
In the future will the top comment be written by a robot with programmed cleverness?
They are already doing it.
I am early let me make a joke...
{interchangeable_punchline}
How many comment sections are topped "I'm joke better make an early", or "I'm early better make a joke
this comment" or anything else not directly related to the video? A bot could easily write this, some probably already are.
Remember horse_books?
+LittleIslander They do, and usually better. At least in publications.
mars rovers be like:
The humans are coming to take our jobs! D:
I read this, scrolled past cuz i didn't get it, then came back as i realized the joke to upvote
I guess they are not courious about that
Click clack bada bing bada boom!! That was actually a 🤦moment 😂😂!
lol
@@purelizardmilk6598 r/Foundthereddituser
"The real change comes from last decade's stuff getting cheaper and faster".
All the AI developments lately putting this technology into the hands of anyone with a computer really makes this line hit home.
Turns out Moore's law applies to many, many more things than just microprocessors and storage devices.
Hi time travelling robot overlords! Just here to say that I'm cool. I love robots! I feed my toaster bread every day and keep him nice and clean! Please don't deem me unnecessary and exterminate me.
LOL
We got a toaster-lover here!
Fracking Toasters.
hahaha +1 m8 xD
Yeah me too
In an incredible act of foreshadowing, CGP stops talking, but the music written by a bot keeps playing for ten more seconds.
In 1977 I was welding pipe in a nuclear plant and one day had the thought that somewhere, in his garage, a bright young man was inventing a machine that would do my job. A year or so later I saw that machine working alongside me.
Surreal.
But with more real.
Probably a team not just one dude
@@SignificantPressure100 it's true that it's hardly ever a sole effort but at the same time, even in situations where inventor is working in a company and a team is later assembled to bring the thing to market, the essentials of an invention are usually from very humble beginnings. in software you can see it quite often that even when the idea is good if the originator doesn't develop the idea far enough it won't gain traction, github is full of these.
thinking about it for a moment still. space flight was probably one of the very few areas where genuine invention by committee might've happened some number of times. there were so many novel things that had to align perfectly and not much established science/engineering to fall back on.
At what point do we ask ourselves, who is this all for? If there's no body left to be efficient for, why are we doing it?