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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
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Great example of how important fluidity is in a solve. Max's high TPS and non stop turning are what allow his centers/3x3 stage to be so fast without utilizing a lot of tricks. This joined with his impressive edge selection and TPS during eges stage make for the fastest solve of all time.
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Everyone is hating on kevin because he doesnt have WR and Max is faster but they are not realizing thta he is just showing more efficient ways and maybe others can learn from it
Ryan M. Cho 7:50 "this is honest the worst..." it's not about point it out the mistakes, its clearly to makes Max look bad
Ugo N. no lol. Maybe he said that, but that's just kinda Kevin for you. The point isn't to make him look bad lol
Ugo N.: If you think that he's just trying to make max look bad then you have never seen any of his solve critiques, that's just how he describes very inefficient solutions. Also, he's not really wrong anyway.
TwitchArchive no he isn't wrong, but he could have said in a better way tho, if you say to me he is always like that ok, I'm not a subscriber anymore. I really don't care.
Ugo N.: Then don't make a comment saying that he's specifically trying to make max look bad. Also, if he's not wrong then I don't see why he should sugarcoat it and act like "mmm look at these E F F I C I E N T centers mmmmmm so efficient doing it this way would be a little bit better but MMMMM EFFICIENT SO GOOD MMMM YES FATHER" when this is a critique with the goal of teaching people what to do and not to do in solves. If the person he's critiquing does something terrible, he should say that it's terrible so that people watching realize that it's bad and don't make the same mistake in their solves.
How tf does Brest make these reconstructions
I bet he just slomos the solve notes down all the turns and rotations and puts them in the software. ... How else?
@ChadwykDoesStuff If you can't understand from that description there's no hope for you. Get a new hobby watching movies or something!
very carefully
SteamLocoScrapper wtf thats a rhetorical question
9:18 LOL "nice up matchly"
Only late because I was doing 5OH
At first I thought you meant 50H as in 50 handed solving and I was thinking “eww gross”.
Bragtime oof
Kevin's reaction is so funny
So you are pretty much saying that if you had this scramble you would have had a 1:42.00?
Just Cube It stupid
No because his TPS isn’t godlike, Max could get away with a lot of move inefficiencies because of his crazy TPS.
Nah I'd get like 52 centers then max is way better than me at 333 and edges and I'd get like 155
the best thing kevin is good at is popping his cube while try to get a wr ...lol...:P
the 2nd best thing is blabbering :D
*Critiquing someone who is better than you makes so much sense*
7x7
I'm just sitting here eating popcorn watching the comment section
Kevin Hays reading *
Oof
I personally have to thank you for making this video Kevin, I really learn a lot!
Since you know the “correct moves” you should be able to beat his record 😁
same but with cinnamon rolls
Well, max once said ,,dont think, just solve“
Seems to work pretty well
No seriously Max actually said that.
@@meixiapan3427 what video? Ive never seen him speak
@@joelcastro8060 on his instagram he wrote that
To all who say that Kevin si jealous on Max, he is not he is just explaining how more efficient the solve could have been.
This is simultaneously amazing and disgusting.
It's almost sad how he's neglected efficiency, instead choosing to focus on eliminating pauses and spamming tps, but you've gotta hand it to him, it clearly works!
Are you going to think about practising Max's approach to solving? Or are you determined to keep improving your efficiency?
I much prefer the elegance of an efficient solve, but Max's brute-force approach deserves real respect.
As others have said, Max did say don't think just solve
Scott Robinson Kevin isn’t even all that efficient honestly
@@sterben4958 Yeah, but he does have faster centers I believe. Zemdegs is the most efficient out of all of them.
Shut up pompus mcpompouspants
9:18 NICE UP MATCHLY.
thought I was the only one who realized! its all good his brain is focused on other things!
Just imagine what times max would get when he improves his center fundamentals at his speed. It’s going to be horrifying
dfloriza If he would have feliks' efficiency... He would do sub 1:40 solves for sure
MiniMan true
MiniMan to be more efficient, you have to turn slower, its simple tradeoff
Matej no, turning slower helps with improving your efficiency that's right, but many cubers are good because they turn fast, don't pause, and are efficient. These are 3 key things in order to improve at any event.
I could see max averaging 150 in the next year. He's so good at 333 and edges I don't think it would be too hard if he labbed his centers a bit
14:55 It wasn't inefficient, Max just wanted to build a yellow 1 to show he was about to get a wr.
Lol
holy shit people it's clearly an inefficient solve in many places, the fact that it was wr doesn't mean it's immune from criticism.. ESPECIALLY if the criticism made so people can learn from it
Kevin if I were you I would just try to take this solve as motivation. Just goes to show that even with all the inefficiencies you can get a 1:47. Reminds me of how I felt seeing Antoine get wr 3bld mean with relatively slow memo and not even full 3style lol
Graham Siggins I agree. Maybe I can learn from that
it seems lookahead and fast turning are more useful than efficiency on big cube
Yes but you need +4 tps i think
Yeah all those hating on Kevin, he's just analyzing it and giving recommendations, we all know Max as the WR, so stop. As far as his comments on certain aspects that's basically his vernacular, have you seen previous analysis's of his own wr solves? He says pretty much the same things, "garbage start" and whatnot. Even if you want to argue that he isnt as critical on his own solves, id say he can't really do much about that, we all know that guy who gets a 98 on a test and keeps saying how bad he did, this situation isn't any different, he would sound like a complete douche if he critiqued his own WR solves as critically as others
Exactly!
Lol people keep saying that you should just be honest, but everyone is like mad at Kevin for saying the truth
this analysis definitely deserves a like.
If and when max is more efficient and as efficient as kevin is saying him to be, imagine how fast he would be
imagine a giiker 7x7 cube for reconstructions
Good input. That was a crazy solve. What’s even crazier is that max has so much room for improvement as well. Do you think sub 1:40 is possible?
But those centers are still sub 1 (55 secs)
TPS beast.
In this video Kevin is telling that max can improve which is a horrible thought to imagine if he improves more than
this................
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Stop hating on Kevin! He’s just trying to show people more efficient ways to solve!
I dont see why people are hating on Kevin, he's pointing out how things can be done more efficiently. I believe many of us can agree that Max isnt the best when it comes to being efficient movecount wise
Exactly. It’s kind of how it’s Max and Tymon’s case now. Tymon’s look ahead and turning is more efficient than Max’s most of the time, but Max has an insane TPS. I saw a comment earlier hating on Kevin for pointing out Max’s strength is spam turning?
Actual bozos man. Like they can do better. People have their preference to cubing and they’re both top tier, why tf are they judging pros?
There’s a lot of people complaining about Kevin and Max, but if you think about it, it makes sense. Max has only been one of the top big cube solvers for a short amount of time, 1-1.5 years now, while Kevin has been one of the top for 7+. It’s obvious that Kevin would know more tips and efficient tricks after all his experience. Max just improves quickly due to his tps
What the h*ck is this comment section
Sorry for the bad language
man i love this i'm just solving my 4x4 listening to him talk about his solve
I was doing the same for my 6x6 solve
Seeing so many inefficiencies in this solve makes you wonder how fast 7x7 times will get once someone like Kevin is able to turn as fast and fluently as Max does. I predict that sub 1:20 is possible.
What about Rw U2 Rw' F at 10:32? You end up with a middle line and 2x5 done minus one 1x2
Thanks for analysing this solve. What impresses me the most and makes me also shake my head is the speed including these inefficiencies.
Being a slow cuber, I still try to avoid many of those and know quite a few of the ideas. I guess being slower in general allows for these optimizations to be seen as there is more time to plan ahead.
Koios same
These kinds of replies are not very friendly, and far from constructive. Next time if you want to type something on the internet, try to put some effort in at least. Not that I expect any in general, but on a CUBING video, I would think and hope the viewers are interested in the subject and intelligent enough to not sink to your level of dialogue.
Yeah wow, seriously? That was a completely unnecessary reply.
Koios why u edit comments bro, not cool
oof
No idea how to solve a 7x7, but i love these videos XD
Go to 21:39 and put on captions. The captions are really not accurate. Lol
I am having super inefficient solves too lmao the way I solve centers is by solving the 3x3 block on the center just like a 5x5 then insert two 1x3 blocks next to the 3x3 block to form 3 bars then solve the rest lmao
The good thing is that the hays was used to break this so I think that kevin cut max some slack because he used his cube to beat the wr
who needs a Hays 7 M in their life?
ME!
Honestly, Kevin did this to annoy Max . Lol
I take fkn 20 seconds for a center on 7x7
2:53 his reaction
Rly don't think just solve
Probably the funniest video from Kevin!
The many cube rotations during last 4 edges can asily be avoided by doing the standard flip alg from a different angle, saves 2 rotations per flip.
Koios he does that so it's easier to see the bottom, plus the flip alg is faster on M
LISTENING TO THE KEVIN TALK SHIT ABOUT MAX WORLD RECORD SOLVE IS HILARIOUS. KEVIN IS SO OVER CRITICAL OF THE SOLVE THAT IT'S KIND OF SAD AND WHAT'S MORE SAD IS 7 X 7 IS KEVINS SPECIALTY AND WOW, MAX JUST WHOOPED HIS ASS..... BUT YEAH HE'S PROBABLY RIGHT, IT WAS A REALLY SLOW..... SOLVE......
Just imagine if Max took this advice. He would become absolutely untouchable.
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I feel Kevin cringing the entire video, I feel this way a lot when I am watching other people work.
#stophatingonKevinhays
Just remember his phrase. Don't think, just solve.
Yeah.. he's doing it all wrong. Some people right??
will you make the analysis of max's wr 1:44?
No one is perfect though. Max is freaking beast at turning. Maintaining the speed constanly and Solving the cube efficiently at the same time are 2 different things. I mean Max is a speed cuber right, so He doesnt wanna stop even 1 sec to find which way is efficent or not efficent. Like every single turn he makes , he thinks that is the best option for him . Because he is too fast, It doesnt mean he gets away all the tricks
The thing he said almost no one does I do and that makes me happy
yeet
I realy hope Max Park doesn’t see this
Geez exactly 70,000 subs, congrats!
Do his 140 wr single please
Yeah he is amazing, but in the actual video of 7x7 wr Kevin's face was really full of hatred and jealousy 😂
Woof
9:18 “nice up matchly”
Bro!
Best of luck👍
“My centers are better”
I like how Kevin’s talking about how super bad this solve is but max is better than him at 7x7 😂
Sterben Like he said at the end, even though it's the best solve of all time, there's always something to pick out. Kevin is arguably a better solver, more efficient, knows more tricks Max can get away with it because he can turn fast. There's a difference between better and faster
You don't have to be better than someone to point out things that they did wrong or could do better. Also, max is fast because of tps and lookahead, not because of efficiency.
Tyler Hicks very true! There was definitely stuff max could have done better in this solve
Max is better at 7x7. Doesnt mean he's perfect though. There's always stuff you can improve on in a solve. Max has absolutely phenomenal edges and 333 stage which is what sets him above everyone else
Kevin Could've Get A Better Time If He Had Maxs Scramble
666th likes
You are the BEST
He still got the wr 😏
Can you make a tutorial on how to become sub 40 on 4x4
neeyamohan sudheer hashtag Cuber has one already
Kevin is triggered 😂
That facepalm
7:50 his reaction
Rip
2nd
1st im
Just wanna say Kevin is all like “wow max does more stupid stuff
Than I realized” but Kevin doesn’t even have an unofficial sub 1:50
Phillip Monteiro right 😂
Even though Max is faster than kevin, Kevin could still be faster on certain aspects of the solves, such as centres
I do hate how Kevin is reacting about Max, you can only see that he is jealous about loosing the lead in his main event. Even though it's probably just an impression that's what I see.
Learning About Cubing nah fam that’s definitely not true.
the point is not how bad or good you solve, the point is how FAST you solve !
Congradz Max in that record! And thanks for the tips, Kevin! I currently can’t do the 4x4 faster than 4 min lol 😝
people are here fighting about who's better at the 7bykevin and i'm just like.......i can get a sub 10.
Wot
Honestly this is why I can't root for Max. Max is really likeable, but I've always been complaining most people are more inefficient than they should be at their speed and made the argument that efficiency is much more important than people make it out to be, so I can't be happy when Max ignores all of that and gets away with it.
Iuri Grangeiro Why do you have to dislike Max just because he has different strengths and weaknesses? If you complain about people being inefficient for their speed a lot, maybe you need to realize that people can take unique paths to end up at the same place.
I don't dislike Max as a person, I just don't root for him as a solver. And yeah, there are multiple ways to get to certain speeds, but some are easier than others, and I think pretty much everyone would rather take the easier path, they just don't because they don't think efficiency is that important.
Iuri Grangeiro porra Iuri, sério que logo vc disse isso, pessoas vêem caminhos fáceis e difíceis de forma diferente, pra vc roux é melhor q cfop. Pro Max manter o momentum é mais importante que focar na otimização dos movimentos.
Iuri Grangeiro congrats on the Brazilian 2018 championship man.
Sim, pessoas veem caminhos fáceis e difíceis de maneira diferente, mas esse não é o caso aqui. Maioria das pessoas ineficientes que eu conheço não são ineficientes por que eficiencia é difícil, elas simplesmente não treinam eficiencia. Não posso dizer com certeza pro Max já que eu não sei como a rotina de treino dele funciona, mas maioria das pessoas que eu conheço que são ineficientes só ficam fazendo solve atrás de solve e é isso, quando na verdade a melhor maneira é ter um balanço dos dois. Não adianta ficar só treinando eficiencia (é bem raro, mas conheço gente assim) assim como não adianta ficar só treinando "manter o momentum" por que a área que você menos treina é geralmente a área que você é pior, e a área que você é pior tende a ser a mais fácil de melhorar, por consequencia se você só treina "manter o momentum", você provavelmente conseguiria melhorar muito e muito rápido se treinasse mais eficiencia.
I like how Kevin is judging his every move saying he did it wrong or bad even tho max still got a wr xD
"Don't think, just solve" - Max Park. That's why he's fast.
Luis Jaramillo Negrete that's not what he means. "don't think just solve" is good for official solves, the less you think about it, the less nerves you will build up. But doing stupid stuff just so you don't waste time thinking is a recipy for 15 sec tps kids who turn like they should be sub 10. Unless you're max park and you practice 5-7 hours a day, there isn't much that you can do to not be good at that point.
hays dont like max becouse of wr
He's showing more optimal ways of solving. Not criticising him.
23:15
I don't really like the way Kevin rolls his eyes throughout the analysis. Totally unnecessary. I think he has hard time acccepting the fact that Max overtook his position as the best big cubes solver. But nevertheless, I think Kevin is a great guy with impressive cubing history.
Kevin is just butthurt max is better at 7x7 than him 🤷♂️
nah hes just helpin him improve his solves.
Rio Ik haha I’m just joking around max and Kevin are amazing solvers
I think you are right tho, the way he talks about it, please have some respect, its a WR. It's not about point it out better ways to do it, he bashes out shit. Clearly jealous about it.
Ugo N. You dont get it kiddo
Not really he’s just critiquing it. If max did those centers more efficiently he could’ve had an even better time but he turns so fast he gets away with the inefficiency
7:50 "this is honest the worst..." it's not about point it out the mistakes... its jealousy... it's a WR ... he should have more respect.
lmao
Hmm. Maybe instead of correcting his moves, you should adopt his techniques since he beat your record by 10 seconds lmao 😆
No. Imagine someone with Max Park level TPS and Kevin Hays level Efficiency, their centres would be like sub 50 on a good solve. Aryan Kejriwal has a good series where he analyses and adopts some of Max Park's techniques, you can go watch it. Kevin and Max just have 2 different approaches. Since Kevin doesn't/cannot turn as fast as Max Park, but has more experience, naturally he will know more efficient tricks but yet he can't execute them as fast. What Kevin is doing is Definitively more efficient, you don't have to be a better solver to have the more efficient solution. Kevin is just trying to provide feedback for people like Max, as well as people like You and Me.
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