‘Rust’ armorer sentenced to 18 months after fatal on-set shooting
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
- Hannah Gutierrez was given the maximum sentence of 18 months in prison for involuntary manslaughter in the 2021 fatal shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.
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If you don't know anything about guns you shouldn't handle them.
He's very anti gun. So he probably feels like he shouldn't have to know.
@@joewoodchuck3824 Alec is very arrogant and probably already thinks he knows everything. I have heard all my life don't point a gun at anything or anyone unless you have to defend your life or kill your own dinner.
Why on earth was this young lady without experience hired to do this job? Disgusting situation.
This was exactly my thought. She's so young. Not at all what I pictured a person in that position would be. She was definitely the scapegoat. The person who put her in that position should be held accountable.
@@joel5644 Once she accepted the position, it became incumbent upon her to learn what was to be done and try her best to fulfill those requirements. But, as Forrest said, Stupid is as stupid does" and now she has 18 months to reflect on her incompetence. But, IMO, Alec Baldwin should also be doing time for his innate stupidity in handling a firearm in a careless manner but he'll probably skate. She's now the fall guy here.
@@Diogenes-ty9yy Yeah, you're right. Good points made.
Nepotism
Geesh. Baldwin gets awards.
I would still like to know how a live round got on set,,
Wasn't it Guttierez?
To me, this is the heart of the matter: NO LIVE ROUNDS SHOULD EVER HAVE BEEN ON THE SET. As armorer, that one thing alone is your first duty.
@@dreamsofturtles1828 not only that an expert demonstrated that fake rounds look differently and are not supposed to have any powder or primer charge.
Live rounds were on set bc they would take the gun they used in the movies and shoot it at the ranch where they were. Probably the worst idea you could have as an armorer or an Alex Baldy.
It wasn't just one round. There was a report that police found additional live rounds in multiple places on the set.
Never point a gun at anyone, even if you think it's a toy, NEVER POINT A GUN AT ANYONE, EVER!!!!
You know I was going to say don't get carried away if it's a just a toy with an orange tip, but on second thought I think it would be good if we trained our children not to even point that in order to instill gun safety in our culture.
You know, I don't disagree. This rule 100% guides me when handling firearms. However, the movies have literally thousands and thousands of scenes of actors holding guns to the heads of other actors. To them it's all a joke.
I knew they wouldn’t do anything to Baldwin.
Rightfully so! It’s a movie set with protocols in place. The armorer handed him the gun and declared it clear. She obviously didn’t check it. It’s solely on her. Lesson here is…never take another persons word on rather or not a gun is not loaded with a live round. Alec will never pull a trigger again without looking.
Educate yourself before commenting. Baldwin trial starts in June. So he hasn’t got away with anything yet.
his trial is this summer. no one knows for sure how it will go down
Baldwin is a nation hero after his spot on impression of Chump.
@@mrmyth5846 Proper handling of a firearm is to NEVER ASSUME anything! If there were 6 firearm savvy people sitting around a table and someone passed an unloaded pistol to the first man, he would check that it was unloaded and pass it to the second seated next to him. That person would ALSO check that the pistol was unloaded, then pass it on with each and every person making the same check. This is the only way to ensure that the gun you have been given is in the unloaded state that someone told you. It was Alec's personal responsibility to do this and, If Alec had done this basic check, he would have never fired that fatal shot. IMO, he is culpable here, also.
George is such a squirrelly little liar. His mere presence lowers our trust in this news organization.
Well that my well be true but in this context he is little more than an announcer who merely introduces the segment that is mainly produced by people you never see but whose names only appear briefly in the credits.
There are people that are far more nefarious, working in the media, than this over paid, milktoast shill.
Pls don’t shoot the messenger! George is delivering the news.
I get my news from Australia. They tell the truth. The American news media is in Biden and Obama hip pockets.
it just went off in his hand not like he pointed it at the lady in anger and pulled the trigger
I don't trust George since
That’s all she got? 18 mos?
As a firearms instructor, i find it highly offensive that Alex Baldwin (THE MAN WHO ACTUALLY PULLED THE TRIGGER) hasn’t been incarcerated yet. Especially if this is the outcome of Hannah’s case. He broke the #1 rule of firearms safety. And for those of you that want to say “he’s only an actor”, i refute that with the fact that he has 100% used firearms in many movies he’s been in and there’s no chance he doesn’t know the safety rules. He’s also culpable, essentially. Where’s his jail time?
Doesn't matter. The armorer is there for all actors who handle firearms under the basis line belief that the actor knows nothing about the firearm (lowest common denominator principle). It doesn't matter what we think Alec knew about the gun, it is the armorer's job to be the final word on the safety of that firearm. If there was no such thing as an Armorer on the set, then yes, every actor would be liable for knowing gun safety. What a live round was doing anywhere near that set is troubling. Alec should be on the hook as a Producer who hired this person.
exactly, well said
I find it offensive that Alec won't be in the clink with her.
The rich and famous are above the law. Especially when its (D)ifferent.
@@jeffreyhall8195 it does matter, and he should ALSO be on the hook as the producer for hiring her. The reality is, that he probably has more experience with film and firearms than even her. With the understanding of who her father is, nepotism was more likely the reason for her appointment. Do you think he didn’t know about the live rounds on set? It was apparently already an issue. So, again, he pulled the trigger in their direction, without verifying himself. Also, again, this is Alec Baldwin we’re talking about, who is a staunch anti second amendment advocate. If he wasn’t following the safety rules every time he handled a firearm, then he has no business pontificating his virtue signaling on the world. Culpable is the word. His reputation, alone, makes him more responsible than your average paid actor/extra/principle. For the same reason that professional fighters are held more responsible in street engagements, Alec is held to a higher standard. Even more so, to instructors like me, who truly care about education to increase safety. There is no easy solution to the problems we see today, but him getting away without at least manslaughter is a crime against reasonable people and ideals
What about Alec Baldwin
What about him? He's responsible for the death. Firearms 101. You check a gun yourself. You can't assign liability, especially with firearms.
This was a tough one. Somethings missing here, that's for sure.
....exactly.
He is a dumb actor who makes believe for a living. There was a paid armorer on that film set who failed to do her job.
@@murielstewart8597 What's missing? Pointed an unchecked firearm at a PERSON, not even filming a scene, and pulled the trigger. End of story.
The firearm itself is already found to be mechanically sound, so don't even try that one.
Quite amazing Baldwin will get nothing of consequence
Is it?
Why, was it his job to question the armorer doing her job?
brichards989 u don't aim guns at people. Even on a movie set they aim away from the target. He aimed it an pulled the trigger.
We don't know that yet.
@@brichards989It's every person in possession of a firearm to check. EVERYONE.
Her conviction doesn't absolve him of the 4 rules of gun safety
And I assume you're a Trumpist who hated Baldwin for mocking your dear leader on SNL!
brichards989 ? Tds is alive an well in your smooth little brain lol. No one is talking about trump but u.
@@brichards989 how dare you assume this person is a "your" and not a "they/them"
Amen, sister, amen!
always about trump, my man, GROW UP@@brichards989
She did it on purpose.
100% at fault. The defense doesn't understand how a fucking movie set works. She loaded a live round. She knew what she was doing.
This poor girl is the scapegoat for several people on that set! Ya'll make me sick!
What about Alec Baldwin. Are they sending her up to protect him.?
Protect him for what? You're just mad he made fun of trump.
This is what happens when you're not qualified.
'Holding the revolver when it when off...' Like 'SUV drove into crowd'.
so what about the idiot who pulled the trigger
Exactly. Supposedly, his trial is in July. Everyone will have forgotten about this by then and he can pay a couple million to sweep it under the rug. No consequences for the actual murderer.
That's exactly what I was talking about....... He probably paid her off to take the "FALL" !!!!
Alec Baldwin would be on the hook for this accident as a producer, but not as an actor. That armorer is there for a reason; because you can not assume a scintilla of gun knowledge from the actor. Sure, Alec, could have had the gun rechecked if he had some concerns, but the final call is the armorer's to make.
Her one and only job was to check the chamber and magazine of that gun to ensure it had blanks in it. She obviously didn’t look. Her negligence cost a woman her life and Alec has to live with knowing he killed her. The whole thing is just extremely sad as it was so easily preventable.
It’s crazy that they even had live rounds on the set to begin with.
unless they did it on purpose
No magazine per se. It's a revolver.
Are you claiming diversity is not our strength?
According to the rules of firearms safety, he’s just as culpable as her. He’s NOT a novice with firearms (he’s used them in many movies and DEFINITELY has run through the safety rules many times), and he would have known better. I’m a firearms instructor, certified through 2 separate organizations. If this is the ruling for her, I’m waiting for his, as well. I’m sure I’ll die, holding my breath
Is she felt remorse she's accept any punishment coming her way, but instead she begs for mercy. So no actual remorse, just fear of the consequences.
She got off easy.
I thought so also.
The assistant director got off even easier, because he already admitted how his actions contributed to this incident and took a plea deal. She could have made a similar plea deal for a lighter penalty but chose the "it wasn't my fault" approach, even trying at one point to blame a company that provided some of the blanks, so police had to get a warrant and search that company to see if they had live rounds mixed with their blanks.
Next will be Baldwin's trial, and he still seems to be blaming the gun, claiming he never pulled the trigger, even though a lab tested the gun and said the trigger had to have been pulled for it to fire.
her heart goes out to the film industry? not the womans family?
"In contrast, blank cartridges do away with metal bullets altogether. Instead, the top of the shell is crimped or covered with a wad of paper, plastic, felt, or cotton. When fired, blanks produce a convincing gunshot noise, but there is no bullet propelled due to the explosion. These special cartridges aren’t likely to injure anyone-unless used improperly.
However, it’s essential to remember that blanks can still be lethal. In 1984, actor Jon Erik-Hexum tragically died on the set of CBS’s Cover-Up due to a blank cartridge. He pointed a gun loaded with blanks to his head, and the force of the explosion caused severe damage, even without a bullet"
And that danger is why the movie industry created rules dealing with pointing guns at the camera crew. They are supposed to use a clear shield for the camera crew or set a remote monitor off to the side to allow the camera crew to be in a location where they won't be hit by the wadding fired from the blank. Neither of those two safety procedures were being followed, that day.
The real guilty party is the trigger puller! Something more than meets the eye is going on here. Maybe no accident at all??
went off while he was holding it .... wtf
A lab tested the gun and said the trigger had to have been pulled. Baldwin still claims he did not pull the trigger.
"I was holding the gun and it sneezed!"
So sad. They just want to pin it on someone.
Perhaps had she shown a bit of remorse and not made those phone calls from jail?
I would like to know all of the people who knew that there were live rounds on the film set?
And the rich and powerful person who actually blew someone's head off? He's still out making movies and doing just fine!
Can’t believe 18 months was max
Alec actually pulled the trigger of a gun while pointing it at someone. Who should get more time?
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Alec Baldwin did it.
Whoah.
She as a Model?? Nope!
Poor little scapegoat!!!
Shes lucky she didnt have to do real time for allowing the death of a person.
Baldwin fired the round. Period
Doesn't matter. The armorer is there to be the final word and prevent this from happening. Alec is responsible, though, as a producer on the film which hired this incompetent person.
@@jeffreyhall8195 But in this particular case, the armorer wasn't in the building. She was somewhere else on the set, so Baldwin had reason to question whether or not the armorer had checked the gun that was being handed to him.
Thats the attitude she should have had when she was sitting in court first time around. She must be getting her ass kicked jail. She always has a smug look as though she's God's gift to the world.
To me it seems it should be up to the very last person to handle the weapon to see if it’s safe…… Otherwise you risk this same scenario repeating.
It's a multi-stage process allowing more than one person an opportunity to catch the problem before it causes damage. Same thing is done with safety inspections in other industries. In this case, three people were involved in this process. One of them already admitted his guilt and took a plea bargain. Another was just convicted. The third is still waiting for his trial.
@@paulstevens7528 That third one I would sole focus on…… Why didn’t you the final handler of the weapon not take the crucial few seconds to check that the weapon just handed you is safe?…… and that would have negated the other two’s incompetence and a loaded gun would not have killed the person it was aimed at…
@@norton2757 After this incident, other actors publicly stated that when they are handed a revolver and told that it is empty or has dummy rounds in it, as Baldwin was reportedly told that day, they point it at the ground or floor then go through the process of cocking the gun and pulling the trigger six times, to confirm that there aren't any blanks mistakenly loaded in the gun. It was reported that several days before this incident, a gun was handed to someone on the Rust movie set and they were told the gun was empty, but they pointed the gun at the floor, cocked it, pulled the trigger, and the gun fired a blank. That quick final safety check of pointing the gun at the floor and pulling the trigger was not an alien concept on that set, because it had been used a few days earlier and had proved the value in doing it, since it identified an incorrectly loaded gun. So why did Baldwin not point the gun at the floor and pull the trigger, to confirm that the gun was actually in the condition that he had been told it was in?
@@paulstevens7528 Lazy
Sooo glad…thought you got 6 years…😊That redhead with a plea made me SICK
Let's put it this way considering there are several incidents in the news lately such as tires falling off airplanes, door that opens while in flight, tools left in the wheel well I get the impression people take a lackadaisical approach to their jobs. I also heard that the armorer was smoking weed. Whether that is true or not she was responsible for safety yet the equipment she was supposed to keep safe killed someone. I don't know how that makes her a scapegoat.
So mnay absolutely stupid people commenting here that sound like they have never seen a movie with a shootout scene in their entire lives. Guess what actors point guns and other actors and pull the trigger All tha Freaking time. This is why they hire an armour to maintain the weapons, ammo, and gun safety on the set. It is 100% NOT The Job of the actor.
She should have been properly trained who’s fault is that shame on Baldwin
WHY ???? WHO DID SHE SHOOT ??? 😧 WHY ISN'T ALEC BALDWIN IN JAIL ??? SHE'S THE FALL GUY.
She is responsible but not fully responsible
How is she not fully responsible? It was her job. Baldwin is also fully responsible. It isn't a pie to be divided up.
@@joewoodchuck3824 Actually, it is a pile to be divided up. Three people were facing charges. One jumped at the chance of a plea bargain and admitted his part in this. One was just convicted. And the trial of the third is still pending.
@@paulstevens7528 There is no division. It's all individual.
Her own social media comments sealed her fate with the judge.
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😂😂😂😂.. she should have been given LIFE. Her carelessness set the stage for an innocent woman to die. Our justice systems a JOKE.
she is the fall "guy"
The the gunman not going to jail
You got your fall guy
which means Alec Baldwin should get two years.. minimum for pulling the trigger without looking at what's in the gun it's part of his job to look
No, it is not part of his job to look. When an armorer handles the weapon they are to be the LAST person to do so before giving it to the actor and filming the scene. If you allowed actor's to have the final determination, would have broken the protocol and then anything could happen and you couldn't hold the armorer responsible, because they didn't check it last. I've been on sets where certain actors (rightfully so) have been nervous about handling a gun and had the armorer recheck the gun two or three times (smart), but it is the armorer's responsibility to be the final touch.
@@jeffreyhall8195 Was it Baldwin's job to point the gun at the camera crew without taking any precautions to prevent the camera crew from being hit by wadding from a blank?
The man who pulled the trigger needs to be in prison not her!!!
Wonder if this convicted lady will try to sue Baldwin in regards to this conviction?
It was entirely her fault
She was required to check the gun, which she apparently failed to do. The assistant director got the gun and handed it to Baldwin, then later admitted he had not confirmed himself whether or not the gun was loaded, and he has already made a plea deal. Baldwin drew the gun, pointed it in a direction that his industry's rules apparently state that additional safety procedures are required when doing so, but didn't wait for the equipment for those procedures to be put in place because they were only checking the lighting and framing of the camera, not actually filming. Each of these three people could have prevented the incident by simply doing their job as it is outlined in their industry's safety procedures.
@@paulstevens7528 it was the gun experts fault. Period
@@cappiece3786 If she had handed the gun to Baldwin, you would have a very valid point. However, she wasn't even in the building and had been sent somewhere else on the property to help someone else, so the assistant director got the gun from where it had been stored and took it to Baldwin. She is still to blame for live rounds getting mixed in with the prop ammo boxes, but the assistant director - who already made a plea deal and admitted his part in this - took on the role of checking the gun and handing it to Baldwin, and Baldwin did not question why he was being handed a gun by someone other than the "expert" that had been hired to hand guns to him. Three separate people were at fault in this incident. One made a plea deal, another has now been convicted, and the third is waiting on his trial date.
@paulstevens7528 it's the gun experts fault. Movie stars aren't proficient in guns. Most movie stars are used to fake guns
@paulstevens7528 there should never have been live rounds anywhere near that movie set
She should have bashed Trump on SNL.
Nothing new, the powerfull go free, the poor go to prison!
Shame.
In the 1960’s when I was a kid I was into the Nancy Drew novels and I had Kodiak brownie 8mm movie camera. Me, a couple girlfriends and a guy friend from school made an amateur Nancy Drew film with my Kodiak brownie 8mm. I played as Nancy Drew and my guy friend played as a psycho killer. In one scene I was hiding behind a dead log and my guy friend used a hand auger and drilled a hole part way in the log where we put the barrel of a shotgun in. The shotgun would blow out the back of the log to give a dramatic gun blasting a log scene. The camera was filming the opposite side of the log I was hiding on. On my side of the log I poked my head above the log and I had the shotgun with the barrel in the log with buckshot. I fired the shotgun and it blew out the back of the log facing the camera giving us the scene of the psycho killer shooting at me. No one was behind the camera when I did this but I got a couple small wood splinters that gave me a minor scratches on my skin. It was stupid of me to do this. I could have lost an eye.
they had video cameras in the 60's? that's so cool! i bet you were stoked when they added sound. and color. what was it like?
@@3p1cand3rs0n, they had small hand held movie cameras since the early 1930’s. They were black and white with no sound and the film quality was not great. Mine had B role good quality film and had many lens adjustment settings for different lighting. Something mine had that very new was sound. I got mine for Christmas in 1962 and it was one of the first hand held color movie cameras with sound that was still quite expensive for the time yet one of the first that was in the price range for normal people. Sound movie cameras were for the most part back then super expensive and big.
@@3p1cand3rs0n, they had handheld video cameras since the 1930’s. Though they were black and white low quality film. Mine was color B role film which was good quality for the time. I got my first one with sound in the early 70’s.
Yep, as usual they go after the lowest common denominator. She was the fall guy and everyone else walked.
Not yet. Baldwin's trial is in a few months.
The assistant director already took a plea bargain. If I'm not mistaken, he was so quick to take the plea bargain - admitted his part in this and didn't try to delay anything - that he has already completed his sentence. The only reason this has been dragged out as long as it has, is because the armorer kept trying to blame other people and Baldwin keeps trying to blame the gun. Baldwin's trial is still pending.
Another publicity stunt?
look at that hair lol
I'm sorry she passed away...In life today no one seems to take their job seriously...No one seems to care about others... I'm super emotional & I'm looked at like as being SPECIAL NEEDS well this proves I'm not!!! The Crumley's too,, the parents that bought the gun for his son.. That killed 4 kids PLUS badly injured 7 more... Either parent said I shouldn't had bought the gun !!! No real remorse,, the world is surely changing...The worst of it is Alex Baldwin will walk free... ( Even pulling the trigger he will deny it) They can't prove it because the FBI mashed the gun ,, what that says is FREEDOM for him)
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Shameful
Turning into a nation of cowardice
Alec baldwin
Alec Baldwin paid her you know it that's the price you pay when your famous and she took the $
He was just "holding the revolver when it went off" that's what this hard hitting journalism tells me.
Rent free.
This Young Woman Took The Fall For Alec Baldwin And That Folks Is The Truth!!!!!
Where's Alec Baldwin??
Awaiting trial, actually.
They hammer this girl but how about the a**hole the pulled the damn trigger?? He's guilty of murder and should already be is prison but he's rich. So he kills someone and yet he's still walking around a free man. The justice system in this country just sucks!!!
He has been charged and is waiting for his trial date, but is still claiming the gun did it all on its own - insists that he never pulled the trigger.
So Alec Baldwin kills a woman and someone else goes to jail for his actions..
Alec Baldwin is a Killer
The gun the shoot itself,Baldwin pulled the trigger ,if he had not been pointing the gun at her she would be alive today. And Hannah should have double checked too make sure there was no real bullets in the gun before it was handed too anyone.If the guns would been locked up no one could have put a real bullet in the chamber. They could have used cap pistols .
Actual firearms are the standard for realism. That's not the issue. It's the unsafe handling here that is the issue.
Alec Baldwin was "holding the revolver when it went off".
Wow
That's a very "avoiding a lawsuit" way of simply saying he fired the revolver.
I think everyone accepts that Baldwin believed the gun was either empty or contained blanks. I would hardly think he could accuse you of libel or slander if you state the obvious fact that he did fire the revolver that killed the cinematographer.
It’s so bs Hollywood and entertainers get away with whatever I hate this world more and more every dau
And Alex, who shot the gun he gonna get nothing he he he’s going to walk off Scott Frey, right right
EDI is no bueno!
She’ll get out in less than 18 months,write a book which will be made into a movie and she will make lots of money. probably become a big RUclips star.