Tridec's Table of Contents 0:34 Blue Side Basics. 2:00 Lane Basics. 3:36 Between Two Tentacles featuring Singed. 4:57 Blue Side Aggression. 5:50 Aggressive Posture featuring Singed. 6:35 Red Side Basics. 7:56 Red Side Aggression. 9:16 Challenger Illaoi Philosophy. 10:11 Contesting Objectives. 11:30 Flash-Ult and the level 7 power-spike. 13:37 Summary and Final Considerations. TY Mobs
Love your channel and what you do! I often listen to livestreams quietly in the background of my ranked games. You helped me hit plat for the first time last season by being your calm, proactive, tentacle-brained self. Keep up the incredible work man, and thank you.
Cool informative video. Even though it is 8 months old Riot hardly ever touches Illaoi ha so the information I am sure is still very current. Hope to see you live soon. (Jake by the way)
Jake, thank you so much! Good to see you again, I appreciate the support and kind words. I was just looking at some analytics and "how to play Illaoi" was a big search topic... Between seeing that and your comment at the same time, I'm thinking its a sign I need to make a general how-to video for Illaoi. My general issue is build up what I need to make in my head, then never get it done because I overshoot what I can do. But I'm thinking in the next few weeks I'll just hop into practice mode and walk through a bunch of key points. Hopefully that'll help as well.
@DirtyMobs definitely sounds like a case of good ol classic over thinking to me. I find you to be pretty concise and coherent. Looking forward to that video!
I was watching your tentacle guide from four years ago yesterday, what a nice surprise for an updated one. If i get to diamond with illaoi its thanks to u :)
love your tutorial vids, only think I would've added is how to manage setting up tentacles at the start of the game vs guarding the bush so your buff doesn't get invaded (especially when your jungler goes bot for a ward-recall then goes topside and meets blitz and friends) or the enemy doesn't start a proxy. As I was writing this I saw your reply in another comment so thanks for that comment!
i like the guide a lot : ] you might want to give the tentacle spawn locations names or descriptions e.g. next to the lamp or behind the big stone. that way it's easier to remember. i've seen this in a vision guide and it helped me to remember how to ward tribrush from dragon pit (stand in the bottom crack + click on the snail).
I mained illaoi for many seasons and even hit "godlike Illaoi" status on Porofessor with about a 65-70% win rate. Eventually grew frustrated with the top meta changing and seeing a lot of ranged champs and new champs like gwen that completely counter me no matter how well I play. I decided to switch roles out of frustration. I think this is an amazing buff paired with the new items so I may have to switch back to top lane and see how it goes.
hey looking for someone to practice illaoi with. I'm only at about 70k points on her. And i've been playing mid. Just want to see how i compare to other illaoi players top.
Very helpful video thanks alot. I would really enjoy a short video which explains each item played on illaoi and when to build it since the items have changed a little bit or are new
this guide actually helped me out the most of all guides i've looked at for illaoi, i wanted to start playing illaoi more often, and carry the team better, this guide was perfect, im definetly going to use this guide alot
Hello Mobs, big fan!! This might be irrelevant on this guide, but I was thinking about the way you utilize your ult mouse direction. On occasion I will direct my mause so as to spawn tencatles behind the enemy rather than in front, so they have no escape(a lot of instant fights I don't even notice). Would really like to know what you think about that In addition to that I've also established in my own head that in big team fights, E-flash is better that the standard R-flash, to direct the multiple newly spawned tentacles onto the enemies that now stand on top of the spirit, rather than onto a single lone spirit. Lastly, this is kinda wild and not really that relevant but a cool gimmic nontheless, the way the E-flash works is crazy, I've done this once only. When you flash efter you E you redirect it, you are actually able to complete wiff it but then flash and turn the trajectory. Thoughts on that maybe, please, kind sir.
so with E-flash you R before, then surprise the enemy with redirected tentacles? Seems situationally very powerful, but R-flash feels much more consistent. Haven't tested it at all so can't say how it is in practice, but I'll probably be too scared to do it in ranked so I don't end up looking like a fool if I whiff the E-flash
Whenever I E-flash is at drake fights where enemy’s are just stacked. My elo was plat 2-1 and they literally don’t care when they are 4 or more. So then I E-flash- means I’m on top of 4 people +a spirit. Then I can R. Means I burn an entire team’s flashes. Cool way to affect the game😂. Burt I never do it with to enemies, and it is very situational. But that is what makes the game great to me. R-flash def more consistent, hence why I also use it more than E-flash. You got me curious about R-E-flash, seems crazy in its own right. Haven’t tried that I need to though. I sometimes feel inclined to make a funky play, because my soul can’t rest knowing I play a game that has the same progression and play 95% of the time. So I gotta make the play happen when it’s there, you know
Since you are way higher rank than me my question would be : Do you feel like this buff was needed ? it is of course great that we got buffed but I didn't felt like we were as weak as people claimed we were with the map change. I mean I already never fought in the middle of the lanes. If anything it made my gameplay more decisive since I always were either on my side playing safe or near the enemy tower to pressure. Great video as always, I don't comment all the time but you definitly are a great source of inspiration for my illaoi games.
Its tough, i think this helps lower ELO players a lot who arent diligent with where and when they fight. But it helps high elo players a ton who can find ways to min max the changes. I wouldnt have done this change, but its an avenue
I'll stand in jg at start, then as the 2nd tentacle CD comes up, move to lane to place, run back to jg. Etc. Most invades top side happen instantly, so if it doesnt happen quick it likely isnt a top side invade
With this increased range in the Passive Tentacles, i'm trying Illaoi Jungle. I until now were able to full Clear before scuttle, but the route to grubs is a little impossible, maybe if i can optimize the route, maybe is possible
Great input my man! Best change in a long time! Now we need your thoughts on new item build possibilities on our muscle mommy and we are all set for a great S14 :)
Beginner question 1: If Illaoi drags out the spirit while enemy champion attacks Illaoi. Should Illaoi keep hitting the spirit or attack the real enemy champion? Spirit only take 61% or so damage, but this is without considering the pre-mitigated damage, right? According to the E ability description, the more Illaoi takes damage, the more damage is transferred to the spirit. Question 2: So, in this case, does Illaoi do more dmg to the spirit than the actual champion? (if the transferred dmg is really high)
Not randomly, two things: 1. Tentacles have a distance which they cant spawn near other tentacles. To store a tentacle, stand near a tentacle which is already placed. 2. Once you're far enough away any other tentacles, your tentacle will place on the nearest wall point to your character. Using these together, you can hold your tentacle by standing near one which is already placed, then walk away from that tentacle. After you move far enough away, your held tentacle will place on the wall closest to your champ. With a little practice you get a hang of it
15 min of how to positioning yourself well. You dont talk about using your R, on fog, after killing the spirit on someone than run away and get killed on the first tentacles spawn. The R increase the speed and prevent the mark on the floor. Always AA before W to increase damage input. You souldnt target the spirit on 1v1 like you did on the singed but always the champ. Kill the spirit if if runs aways. That mean if the target is 20%hp running aways and the spirit 60% hp you can still burst the spirit and get the kill before he get too far. It's a current illaoi mistake. Max Q most of the time. E is good but not good as maxing Q. Take a lot of tenacity. Have fun with big mama guys :)
Most of these arent related to tentacles, theyre relates to other illaoi abilities and will be covered seperately. The one point about tentacles are relates to ulting to increase slam speed, my b
This wa sspecifically for the new tentalce range they just updated. Also on the Singed clip you cant chase the champ away from spirit unless you can run them down with your team. Otherwise you cant hit both spirit and champ and they can turn on you just before they leave E range. Now youre correct if they are standing on top of spirit you should always target the real champ. I like Q max but i also find i do enough dmg without it and my E is what allows me to win the 1v2 and especially 1v3 fights more reliably. Glhf summoner 👍
What do you mean he misplayed in the clip? I rewatched it a couple of times, feels like if he did almost anything different he would've died. He can't target singed cause he ran away at 400 mph after flipping him. If he didn't do the last W on the spirit it would probably expire, singed doesn't get slowed and Illaoi dies due to poison. Some more nitpicking: - if people really concentrate they can dodge R tentacles with any champ by standing at max range or doing some other funky stuff so your R may end up wasted - if you need heal/damage asap don't do AA-W as it makes your slams go a few milliseconds slower which can be the difference between life and death - Illaoi does not need tenacity as much as other champs since she can "mask" the cc duration with her long animations and also stall with tentacle slams and heals
@@simioncristian7799 How much extra does the AA-W do? How come the extra auto does that much more dmg? And do you agree with the Q max? Every guide I've read seems to go 50/50 between Q and E. So I've mainly gone the E because the cool down decrease.
@@clintharward9942 depending on the situation, AA-W instead of just W can be the difference between a kill or not. You get a feeling for how much extra dmg it deals by playing Illaoi regularly. Its power also lies in the fact that W resets your AA animation and also has an uncancelable windup meaning its damage will go through even if the opponent flashes. About E vs Q max, I really don't know, last patch I went Q max cause I looked on lolalytics and it seemed to have a better winrate (might've been wrong though cause it's easy to misinterpret the data). I don't know what is better in the current patch since tentacle damage nerfs should affect Q max more.
Tridec's Table of Contents
0:34 Blue Side Basics.
2:00 Lane Basics.
3:36 Between Two Tentacles featuring Singed.
4:57 Blue Side Aggression.
5:50 Aggressive Posture featuring Singed.
6:35 Red Side Basics.
7:56 Red Side Aggression.
9:16 Challenger Illaoi Philosophy.
10:11 Contesting Objectives.
11:30 Flash-Ult and the level 7 power-spike.
13:37 Summary and Final Considerations.
TY Mobs
You're the best, I edited slightly and added to the timeline.
@@DirtyMobs
Love your channel and what you do! I often listen to livestreams quietly in the background of my ranked games. You helped me hit plat for the first time last season by being your calm, proactive, tentacle-brained self. Keep up the incredible work man, and thank you.
Cool informative video. Even though it is 8 months old Riot hardly ever touches Illaoi ha so the information I am sure is still very current. Hope to see you live soon. (Jake by the way)
Jake, thank you so much! Good to see you again, I appreciate the support and kind words. I was just looking at some analytics and "how to play Illaoi" was a big search topic... Between seeing that and your comment at the same time, I'm thinking its a sign I need to make a general how-to video for Illaoi.
My general issue is build up what I need to make in my head, then never get it done because I overshoot what I can do. But I'm thinking in the next few weeks I'll just hop into practice mode and walk through a bunch of key points. Hopefully that'll help as well.
@DirtyMobs definitely sounds like a case of good ol classic over thinking to me. I find you to be pretty concise and coherent. Looking forward to that video!
I was watching your tentacle guide from four years ago yesterday, what a nice surprise for an updated one. If i get to diamond with illaoi its thanks to u :)
love your tutorial vids, only think I would've added is how to manage setting up tentacles at the start of the game vs guarding the bush so your buff doesn't get invaded (especially when your jungler goes bot for a ward-recall then goes topside and meets blitz and friends) or the enemy doesn't start a proxy. As I was writing this I saw your reply in another comment so thanks for that comment!
Mobs I always appreciate the straight forward style of your content. Don’t change brother and thank for all the great tips! ❤️😀
great vid! are you going to do a runes and item breakdown on illaoi?
Yes! Soon to come
Bro when he pulled out the pink marker had me dying 😅 LOVE IT
i like the guide a lot : ]
you might want to give the tentacle spawn locations names or descriptions e.g. next to the lamp or behind the big stone. that way it's easier to remember. i've seen this in a vision guide and it helped me to remember how to ward tribrush from dragon pit (stand in the bottom crack + click on the snail).
I mained illaoi for many seasons and even hit "godlike Illaoi" status on Porofessor with about a 65-70% win rate. Eventually grew frustrated with the top meta changing and seeing a lot of ranged champs and new champs like gwen that completely counter me no matter how well I play. I decided to switch roles out of frustration. I think this is an amazing buff paired with the new items so I may have to switch back to top lane and see how it goes.
Illaoi is actually pretty damn good into the current meta of Darius, Aatrox, Jax etc. not a bad time to play her for sure
Ive just come back to league too and that range buff feels so nice
This is awesome!!!
Sir you are the inspiration for me to become an illaoi main
I have half a million points in illaoi and i didnt know about the level 7 powerspike
hey looking for someone to practice illaoi with. I'm only at about 70k points on her. And i've been playing mid. Just want to see how i compare to other illaoi players top.
Very helpful video thanks alot. I would really enjoy a short video which explains each item played on illaoi and when to build it since the items have changed a little bit or are new
This is amazing! Link this into your google doc for the S14 guide!
Good reminder Ive got to get that finished!
this guide actually helped me out the most of all guides i've looked at for illaoi, i wanted to start playing illaoi more often, and carry the team better, this guide was perfect, im definetly going to use this guide alot
Hello Mobs, big fan!!
This might be irrelevant on this guide, but I was thinking about the way you utilize your ult mouse direction. On occasion I will direct my mause so as to spawn tencatles behind the enemy rather than in front, so they have no escape(a lot of instant fights I don't even notice). Would really like to know what you think about that
In addition to that I've also established in my own head that in big team fights, E-flash is better that the standard R-flash, to direct the multiple newly spawned tentacles onto the enemies that now stand on top of the spirit, rather than onto a single lone spirit.
Lastly, this is kinda wild and not really that relevant but a cool gimmic nontheless, the way the E-flash works is crazy, I've done this once only. When you flash efter you E you redirect it, you are actually able to complete wiff it but then flash and turn the trajectory.
Thoughts on that maybe, please, kind sir.
Would be so cool, if you made a SHORT video on that in the end to follow up, from fundamentals to experimental.
Oh oh, and I already did like and subscribe and check you out of the platforms mentioned😊
so with E-flash you R before, then surprise the enemy with redirected tentacles? Seems situationally very powerful, but R-flash feels much more consistent. Haven't tested it at all so can't say how it is in practice, but I'll probably be too scared to do it in ranked so I don't end up looking like a fool if I whiff the E-flash
Whenever I E-flash is at drake fights where enemy’s are just stacked. My elo was plat 2-1 and they literally don’t care when they are 4 or more. So then I E-flash- means I’m on top of 4 people +a spirit. Then I can R. Means I burn an entire team’s flashes. Cool way to affect the game😂.
Burt I never do it with to enemies, and it is very situational. But that is what makes the game great to me.
R-flash def more consistent, hence why I also use it more than E-flash.
You got me curious about R-E-flash, seems crazy in its own right. Haven’t tried that I need to though.
I sometimes feel inclined to make a funky play, because my soul can’t rest knowing I play a game that has the same progression and play 95% of the time.
So I gotta make the play happen when it’s there, you know
Since you are way higher rank than me my question would be :
Do you feel like this buff was needed ?
it is of course great that we got buffed but I didn't felt like we were as weak as people claimed we were with the map change. I mean I already never fought in the middle of the lanes. If anything it made my gameplay more decisive since I always were either on my side playing safe or near the enemy tower to pressure.
Great video as always, I don't comment all the time but you definitly are a great source of inspiration for my illaoi games.
Its tough, i think this helps lower ELO players a lot who arent diligent with where and when they fight. But it helps high elo players a ton who can find ways to min max the changes. I wouldnt have done this change, but its an avenue
Thank you for your work
Question: at start of match, set up tentacles in lane or stand in jg entrance to prevent invade?
I'll stand in jg at start, then as the 2nd tentacle CD comes up, move to lane to place, run back to jg. Etc. Most invades top side happen instantly, so if it doesnt happen quick it likely isnt a top side invade
@@DirtyMobs thank you :)
THANK YOU DIRTYMOBS! HAVE A GREAT DAY
With this increased range in the Passive Tentacles, i'm trying Illaoi Jungle. I until now were able to full Clear before scuttle, but the route to grubs is a little impossible, maybe if i can optimize the route, maybe is possible
Do you still max e first or q first 😮?
Great input my man! Best change in a long time! Now we need your thoughts on new item build possibilities on our muscle mommy and we are all set for a great S14 :)
Yes! Build video is soon to come.
@@DirtyMobs awesome! You are an international treasure, promoting our favourite priestess! :D
Thank you for sharing this with us!
im gonna need a % of spirits successfully pulled for this video
69%
Love ya mobsy. Keep up the good work!
How do you create the tentacles? Do they just spawn on there own? And if they do then how do you purposfully put them where you want?
I’m a dirty Ghost Teleport user, sorry to all flash salesmen and enthusiasts.
extremely helpful
Ayo, it's the fabled tentacle guide.
I was beginning to wonder how long it was gonna take before a new guide would come out.
Beginner question 1: If Illaoi drags out the spirit while enemy champion attacks Illaoi. Should Illaoi keep hitting the spirit or attack the real enemy champion? Spirit only take 61% or so damage, but this is without considering the pre-mitigated damage, right? According to the E ability description, the more Illaoi takes damage, the more damage is transferred to the spirit.
Question 2: So, in this case, does Illaoi do more dmg to the spirit than the actual champion? (if the transferred dmg is really high)
just the guide we needed
Grasp or Conqueror? Matchup Tier list?
mobs never imagined he might one day change the tentacle guide lol
Tentacool guy time!
NICE GUIDE!!!!
Like the Content
Ty for that helpful guide
OmG ThANK YOU SO MUCH, THE ILLAOI MAIN hImselF
How do you place tentacles?
But... arent the tentacles spawning randomly around you? How are you "placing" them?
Not randomly, two things:
1. Tentacles have a distance which they cant spawn near other tentacles. To store a tentacle, stand near a tentacle which is already placed.
2. Once you're far enough away any other tentacles, your tentacle will place on the nearest wall point to your character.
Using these together, you can hold your tentacle by standing near one which is already placed, then walk away from that tentacle. After you move far enough away, your held tentacle will place on the wall closest to your champ. With a little practice you get a hang of it
Thx dog!
needed
what a guide, time to get out of bronze
What if I miss E?
Retreat a little bit cause a main cooldown is now on CD.
Same principle applies to any champion with an important spell.
Be cool if you did an extra short on the exact spot to stand to spawn the tentacles in the right spots. Keep messing up. 😢
Poggy
15 min of how to positioning yourself well. You dont talk about using your R, on fog, after killing the spirit on someone than run away and get killed on the first tentacles spawn. The R increase the speed and prevent the mark on the floor. Always AA before W to increase damage input. You souldnt target the spirit on 1v1 like you did on the singed but always the champ. Kill the spirit if if runs aways. That mean if the target is 20%hp running aways and the spirit 60% hp you can still burst the spirit and get the kill before he get too far. It's a current illaoi mistake. Max Q most of the time. E is good but not good as maxing Q. Take a lot of tenacity. Have fun with big mama guys :)
Most of these arent related to tentacles, theyre relates to other illaoi abilities and will be covered seperately.
The one point about tentacles are relates to ulting to increase slam speed, my b
This wa sspecifically for the new tentalce range they just updated. Also on the Singed clip you cant chase the champ away from spirit unless you can run them down with your team. Otherwise you cant hit both spirit and champ and they can turn on you just before they leave E range. Now youre correct if they are standing on top of spirit you should always target the real champ. I like Q max but i also find i do enough dmg without it and my E is what allows me to win the 1v2 and especially 1v3 fights more reliably. Glhf summoner 👍
What do you mean he misplayed in the clip? I rewatched it a couple of times, feels like if he did almost anything different he would've died. He can't target singed cause he ran away at 400 mph after flipping him. If he didn't do the last W on the spirit it would probably expire, singed doesn't get slowed and Illaoi dies due to poison.
Some more nitpicking:
- if people really concentrate they can dodge R tentacles with any champ by standing at max range or doing some other funky stuff so your R may end up wasted
- if you need heal/damage asap don't do AA-W as it makes your slams go a few milliseconds slower which can be the difference between life and death
- Illaoi does not need tenacity as much as other champs since she can "mask" the cc duration with her long animations and also stall with tentacle slams and heals
@@simioncristian7799 How much extra does the AA-W do? How come the extra auto does that much more dmg?
And do you agree with the Q max? Every guide I've read seems to go 50/50 between Q and E. So I've mainly gone the E because the cool down decrease.
@@clintharward9942 depending on the situation, AA-W instead of just W can be the difference between a kill or not. You get a feeling for how much extra dmg it deals by playing Illaoi regularly.
Its power also lies in the fact that W resets your AA animation and also has an uncancelable windup meaning its damage will go through even if the opponent flashes.
About E vs Q max, I really don't know, last patch I went Q max cause I looked on lolalytics and it seemed to have a better winrate (might've been wrong though cause it's easy to misinterpret the data). I don't know what is better in the current patch since tentacle damage nerfs should affect Q max more.
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