Ladyada interview with Paul Horowitz - The Art of Electronics @adafruit @electronicsbook
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2015
- Ladyada interviews Paul Horowitz, co-author of the Art of Electronics.
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Paul Horowitz is a Research Professor of Physics and of Electrical Engineering at Harvard University, where in 1974 he originated the Laboratory Electronics course from which emerged The Art of Electronics. In addition to his work in circuit design and electronic instrumentation, his research interests have included observational astrophysics, x-ray and particle microscopy, and optical interferometry. He is one of the pioneers of the search for intelligent life beyond Earth (SETI). He is the author of some 200 scientific articles and reports, has consulted widely for industry and government, and is the designer of numerous scientific and photographic instruments.
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We absolutely love The Art of Electronics by Paul Horowitz and Winfield Hill. So much so, our Ladyada (Limor Fried, founder and engineer of Adafruit) scored a review copy and even gives her commendation on the back cover! Here's what she had to say:
"Who among us has not kept a cherished copy of AoE on our workbench throughout our careers? Engineers, hackers and makers of all stripes, rejoice for the third edition … has been worth the wait! Packed with tons of delicious knowledge to navigate electronics in both work and hobby. An encyclopedia of electronics knowledge, [The Art of Electronics] is a pleasure to read through for tips and tricks and is a unbeatable resource! Take a day out to read a chapter - you will learn things you didn't even know you didn't know. Or, refer to the pinouts, diagrams, and techniques as necessary to guide you through a difficult project. If you think electrical engineering is magical then you must pick up this tome!"
Limor 'Ladyada' Fried, Adafruit Industries
The third edition features enough new info that's it's worth buying. Here's the description from the Art of Electronics folks themselves:
At long last, here is the thoroughly revised and updated third edition of the hugely successful Art of Electronics. It is widely accepted as the best single authoritative book on electronic circuit design. In addition to new or enhanced coverage of many topics, the Third Edition includes: 90 oscilloscope screenshots illustrating the behavior of working circuits; dozens of graphs giving highly useful measured data of the sort that's often buried or omitted in datasheets but which you need when designing circuits; 80 tables (listing some 1650 active components), enabling intelligent choice of circuit components by listing essential characteristics (both specified and measured) of available parts. The new Art of Electronics retains the feeling of informality and easy access that helped make the earlier editions so successful and popular. It is an indispensable reference and the gold standard for anyone, student or researcher, professional or amateur, who works with electronic circuits.
Clocks in at a whopping 1,470 pages with 78 tables - so prepare yourself for a very long and informative book club!
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Teaching electronics for decades and still gets excited talking about it, what an inspiration you are Prof. Horowitz. I own the 2nd edition so the 3rd edition is on my to get list.
Which edition should I get?
@@romani008 3rd. First one is a mess for JFETs (according to Horowitz/Hill).
1991, fresh computer science degree in hand, competent in database design, DSP, graphics algorithms and many other software things. Then I get my first job and through some miscommunication it turned out to be for microelectronics design. So after the first Monday on the job, I dug out my copy of Horowitz and Hill and faked it until I maked it. 30 years later I'm a principal engineer design circuits like I'm some sort of qualified person.
Awesome!
Did they teach you any electronics in your computer science degree back then ?
@@nitro-ww6sk Yes. Electronics 101 and some electives. Digital was covered in much depth. Not enough to do serious board design, but I did make a board in my third year project (a scsi ram disc for local sun workstation paging). So I had enough to get going.
@@davidjohnston4240 Turned those rocks into lemonade. 😂
Outside of a few Universities these days or innately tenacity, I doubt many CS undergrads would be able to pull off what you did, due to the prevalence of so-called "Java Schools".
Haha that’s awesome ❤
The Interjections take away from what otherwise is a pleasant interview.
It's her video and an interview is a conversation, she's joining in and steering the discussion in a constructive direction...
She is the worst part of the video. Total cringe. She keeps "steering the discussion" off a cliff. She keeps interrupting and talking over him.
I totally agree... let the man talk/finish his thoughts.
She's a horrible interviewer......keeps interrupting him ...like she's talking to one of her SJW friends.
27:07 sums it up lmao. His facial and tone shows his frustration. I’ve made that same exact face so many times when you’re just lost for words.
I graduated from Don Bosco Tech in '66 and worked in electronics for 42 years (as a technician and then engineer). Books like this are worth their weight in gold because they cut to the meat of the subject. I have the 89 version and just ordered the new edition and am looking forward to reading it.
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Paul Horowitz is an engineering rockstar. Art of E 2 was the last book my dad signed and gave me for my bDay before he passed. The BEST book on the subject for getting circuits to WORK… with theory at an absolute minimum. EE with TI then IBM here.
Never took an electronics class. Awesome.
JetNmyFuture Never took an electronics class but wrote the book on it :)
+NOTuNOTme Kinda gives some hope and credit for those of us that are self taught ;)
well he's a phd in physics at Harvard who worked on radios since 8 years so the principles are the same.
Never took an electronics class. But taught a lot wrote a book on it and inspired generations!
Self stuff is beter than class
There is really something going on here with Horowitz that I think we are absolutely swinging and missing at in modern engineering education, and that is the topic of "synthesis vs. analysis" that was discussed about 1/6 through the vid. Not only do some people learn better by taking a problem and building a solution, but new ideas are formed that way and often quicker, more direct routes to the solution are found.
In my experience as a chemical engineer at a top undergrad university, I was asked to "design a process that does x" only a tiny handful of times. This not only downplays that critical skill, it shortchanges "synthetic thinkers" in favor of those who can churn out answers in strict adherence with the examples in the lectures & homeworks.
Not that analysis is a bad thing- it is a fundamentally critical skill because a lot of the time engineers don't have the ability to build something new - it's quite often "fix this thing."
Has anyone else had these thoughts?
TheEvrythingsjake Horowitz has this synthetic perspective because he doesn't have to be conservative and he *does* have to solve hard problems. Being the instrumentation lead for astrophysicists and astronomers must be amazing. I think the "design a process that does X" teaching method can and should extend well beyond engineering, too, into many other aspects of education.
I was the top student in my Electronics courses at a top University. I left not really knowing how to use an Oscilloscope, let alone design a "real" circuit. I've learnt more about electronics than I did in my entire degree by building projects at home in my own time.
Agree completely. Analysis has been done to death in engineering universities!
This was my chief complaint. No focus on putting things together, just endless analysis with no big picture coherence.
@@HeerdyesMahapatro True, but AoE doesn't help with "synthesis" either. I mostly see a bunch of solutions (some very creative for sure) thrown at you with a good or less good explanation about how it works. Some practical information about passives and other things for sure, also precision design, but I can hardly see any "synthesis" there.
Absolutely thrilled to hear Prof. Horowitz. I came across "The Art of Electronics" way back in 1985 (when I was an undergrad in India) and immediately fell in love with the way you approached electronics design - like a designer does. I use to enjoy the sections "bad ideas" which illustrated your knack to think like a new-comer to the subject and sense what mistakes they are likely to make. Of course the 'transistor man' analogy was so refreshing (works so well with a common emitter configuration). It had slipped my mind that you were at Harvard, else I would have really wanted to meet you (during a visit to MIT a few years back).
What a great experience to listen to Prof. Horowitz and feeling the spirit he spreads out to us to work with electronics in every way. I ordered the book and I will enjoy every tiny phrase. Born in the 50s in Berlin I was in contact with electronics as a hobby as a small boy and I remained until today. Paul Horowitz is going to refresh my ambition to try things out and building small circuits. Back in the days I built small am radios with even one tube to listen to radio kairo in the night, what an experience! Paul Horowitz makes me feel that this lust will never end. I am shure that I wouldn’t read his whole book and might not understand many or most of Pauls sophisticated content and I apologize that I use this book as entertainment for me growing old instead of using it for serious studies. I might me feel young again, as young as Paul appears in this interview. Awesome! Pleas tell him my best wishes, from Martin from Germany.
Shame about constant interruptions. Clicked video link to hear him speak not an ingratiating interviewer butting in every two seconds. Good though all the same. Be great if they could get Dave Jones to do an interview with him, give the man a chance to make his points. His reference to Edward Purcell was absolutely fascinating. Purcell was a genius, a Nobel prize winner and wrote the best book on EM theory. I would have love to have heard some more anecdotes about that.
Bought the second edition of his book while at varsity doing electronics engineering. One of the most valuable books I ever owned. Awesome interview. Will definitely get the 3rd edition. If you are new to electronics, buy the lab manual that complement this book and start experimenting. You will be up and running with electronics in no time.
Skipping to the end where Horowitz gives her a watch, I realized that this interview is in the style of a late-night talk show, and it's with Horowitz as a personality. It's not a chance to hear him talk at length (uninterrupted) about the book and get into technical topics very deeply, its about personalities and chit-chat. Within this context, her shallow comments make sense and are appropriate. Horowitz is trying to respond as if it's for a different audience, so him talking at length about anything is constantly interrupted.
Her comments aren't really shallow. When they were discussing termination he said characteristic impedance is created when you add a termination resistor but you only get characteristic impedance under the assumption that R and G are very small and can be ignored. If they can't be ignored (because you added a termination resistor) the R term re-introduces frequency dependence and some amount of small reflection (or what he's referring to as capacitance) because you no longer have a characteristic impedance.
Author of "The Art of Electronics" Paul Horowitz, shares something you WOULD NOT EXPECT him to say, but it is true.
** that he NEVER TOOK AN ELECTRONICS COURSE, and he still is the writer and authority on his subject as a premiere expert ... very inspiring!
Thank you much for sharing this interview; AND all of the work you do!
ya, but he studied physics 8-) B.A. + M.A. + Ph.D.
@@physiqueDrummond - Yes, and studied many electrical and electronic principles more deeply as a physicist than an EE would.
this book is amazing. wish I found this book during my electronic circuit analysis class
What an amazing chance to go through all those details in such relaxed and informal interview. Thanks!
Great interview of one of my heroes! Many thanks to you both!
I just finished your wonderful AofE X-Chapters book. It is like a detailed history document of my 45 year EE career!
Get the latest (3rd) edition of AofE. It's a text book for circuit design, plus a reference for many things you may need in the future. Then get the other AofE books if you want more.
Fun to see Paul Horowitz!
Bob Pease was The Wizard of Analog Electornics, "What's all this about ?"
Great to be able to watch this interview. It was very interesting and inspiring for me. Thanks a lot!
My copy of "Learning the Art of Electronics" lab course book arrived this morning, and I'm already deep into it!
Thank you, Paul Horowitz, and a HUGE ENOURMOUS GIGANTIC thank you to Limor Fried for quite literally changing my life.
(And kudos to Lada Ada Lovelace - the first programmer and an inspiration to all ).
I have a 1st edition from the 80s when I was doing applied physics and later electronics as an undergrad. It is the one book I treasure to this day - we called it the bible on my course. In this interview, he is as sharp as a razor, quick-witted, and full of exuberant enthusiasm. I had some great lecturers in my education two guys who paid homage by their book title "The art of Control Engineering" but am so envious of those who learnt from him. I am in my 60s so he must be in his 80s and still inspirational - what a great man. Going online to buy the 3rd edition...
"Winfield Hill" and ladyada repplied "We're gonna get here him too!" Is there an interview of him somewhere?
What a terrific and knowledgeable person! Very interesting to watch. Big thanks!
When's the Hill interview coming?
" That was more than 5 minutes " LOL.
Thank you for so much Paul.
Such an engaging talk. I kept my original (black) book and lab manual just to follow along the design principles. Just like so much in Knuth's "Art of computer Programming" is still relevant today, the "Art of Electronics" remains a standard.
Best book to learn Electronics !!!
A great conversation ... I had 2nd Edition ... this convinced me to get the 3rd. Thanks!
Very interesting how such an important book project started, it seems to cover several books I needed to have, so I should have get this electronics bible after starting electronics with an experimental kit from Philips which led me to become a service technician for consumer electronics (Radio, TV, Alarm) ...
BTW: german analogue television modulates the chrome signal also with alternating chrome-carrier-phase to compensate disturbed color effects over air transmission, thats why its called PAL= Phase Alternating Line.
I had the early edition of this book recommended to me by a teacher and I always thought it was fantastic. What a truly wonderful and inspiring man Paul Horowitz is! Is there an interview with Winfield Hill anywhere?
MIT meets Harvard, electronics will never be the same. Great Interview.
And an awesome book "The Art of Electronics"
The sat. dish question was Awesome!!!
I can't say I've ever been interested to read 1000 pages of anything, but if anything could ever motivate me to start, it's this interview. That was cool
Fantastic interview!
Let the guru talk...
I wish I could go on one of his courses, I have his book obviously but wouldn't it be nice to hear the original flair
Used this book in school (as a EE). 15 years later, I'm now a patent attorney. But I still have my copy of The Art of Electronics on my shelf for handy reference (and I still use it). Thanks, Prof. Horowitz, for a great book! (And thanks, Adafruit! I just ordered a Raspberry Pi to use as a media center.)
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Really a very interesting book in the field of electronic circuits
I still have and use my 2nd Edition.
"The Art of Electronics" is a great resource.
Where can I get those electronics component dolls in the back?
In early 80s, i was a junior in college and someone refered this book to me. I think it was the second edition with all those bad idea and good ideas💡 but the problem was English wasn't my first language and I had to learn two things at once. I learn so much practical electronic designs from this book that I kept it closeby all the time. I think i still have the original book somewhere although I haven't used electrics stuff for over 30 years.
this is way cool !! really enjoyed it all!!
Fantastic!!!
Excellent ...
Though frenetic at times, I felt you guys gelled after a bit and started to get a real dialogue going. This was an enjoyable interview. Thank you!
Great and historical co-authors!
Thank you Mr. Horowitz and Ladyada for this amazing interview.
Just ordered Art of Electronics from Goodwill, pretty cheap. Looking forward to getting into it.
Awesome interview. Thanks Professor and Ladyada. I went and purchased the 3rd edition after watching :)
Paul, you are my legend!
really enjoyed to watch every minute of this interview thank you
When the students' manual for 3rd edition is coming up??
I have the Gray one, it was soooooo much clearer than my university-recommended text.
Were can I get the latest copy?
This was an awesome interview. Love the inspiration from both of you. I'm sold on this book. Love Paul's personality and really appreciated his comparison describing his teaching style versus the podium-style many professors use. If you are going to learn, you have to get more hands on and do things yourself. This is more likely with smaller classes and a teacher that comes down to your level to work along side you.
Wonderful character
I have a copy of his book. The grey one. So glad you interviewed Paul. Great to see the people behind these books and so humble too.
He's so excited to discuss all the things! The excitement's infectious.
Really Good
What a legend
Great interview. It's great to 'meet' one of the authors of that legendary book. Congrats on a very slick production too!
Good interview. I think you had a good rapport. Fun to watch. Paul Horowitz is one hell of an interesting guy and I would love to watch a further interview with him.
A great interview, I feel I'm back in lab discussing circuit design, so so long ago. Its sad to see those databooks in the trash, I did so myself over 10 years ago but regretted it when I needed to fix some old devices with obsolete chips, and not everything is online. I hope some kind soul took most of them for scanning to preserve the specs of obsolete chips. I personally like the National series most, and luckily kept a few, the analog databooks. I've never heard anyone comment on the CMOS CD series as Dr Horowitz did and its my sentiments too. Luckily National came in with the 74C series and made life better. DEI.
If he has kids they should be really grateful to have a father with such a knowledge 😁👍
Great interview. Had this book in College in the early 80's. Excellent book - got me hooked on electronics! Love how he showed his co-writer so much respect.
My master..!!!🙏
Who has original copies of these educational e-books, I would like them in PDF format
Currently taking an introductory electronics class, amazing that i can understand this stuff!
Is that the TL07x series at like 30 on Paul's Favorite Graph? Are we saying there that "bugger it, the source noise and impedance are so high that we should just whack in a jelly bean jFET input voltage amplifier"? Guitarists will probably be so sad, since their pedal boards tend to have several of these in series.
...or does that graph even apply to voltage sources like guitar pickups that produce naff-all current?
Thanks for doing this, Paul; you're a gracious guy and an amazing communicator. Now get back to your Optical SETI!!!
WOW! That was a lot of fun!
Ladyada, thank you for posting this interview and for everything you have done to make electronics accessible to folks like me.
Nice Capacitor Man shirt!
I'm sure this has been answered but I could not find it. Did you ever interview Winfield Hill? I enjoyed the Paul Horowitz interview and was hoping to see one with Hill.
Thanks.
Fantastic and interesting interview. I'm ordering the book.
Paul "I never took a course in electronics", Ladyada "Really?, that's awesome!".
So many lessons in engineering are only learned through the school of hard-knocks. I advocate everyone who already holds an electrical engineering degree to also earn a PhD from OJT. Only if you are willing and able to work with your hands and perform experiments frequently can you learn from On the Job Training.
I'm looking forward to reading the low-noise design section since I am most interested in measurements and calibration.
A fantastic interview. Loved all of it
MIT is just down the street from Harvard.... Ouch!
Also laughed at the "People's Republic of Cambridge" local humor!
I love the fact that this is a conversation, not a stuffy interview. On the contrary to some of the comments, I didn't even notice that she was interrupting. Conversation is a give-and-take, and in the North people talk like this constantly. In the South (I am a transplant to the South) I had to learn to not interrupt because people consider it rude, not a flattering indication that I was so eager to hear and learn that I couldn't get it fast enough. And this is all that is happening here.
I loved this video! Fascinating stuff and you both make it so understandable. Great job!
I've just started these books, but I thoroughly enjoy both of them. (I'm a software engineer, by trade, for 21+ years, now on disability, so this is a hobby.)
Lady Ada, when you write that 4th and 5th book, I hope to be around to purchase them both, and the lab books, too.
And right now, I'm going to buy an oscilloscope! I thought I had to spend thousands. Just one of the tidbits that made this so fun to watch. :-)
Now where can I get me one of those watches? ;-)
Awesome interview! Thanks.
I wish I could give this video more than one like!
Rubidium Crystal high stability oscillators were used to create the analogue ctv video signal. Fun fact for you.
PLEASE interview Mark Tilden!!!
My hat off, Mr Horowitz...
Still annoyed I couldn't get into the class when I was in grad school in cambridge (denied because my undergrad was EE, but it was also a conflict with a required seminar with Judah Schwartz). Used the first when I was in the lab at MGH, the second for over 20 years teaching, and now have got the third through approval. Nice to see that Paul is pretty much the same as in the 1980's.
refreshing video - I'm a Computer Engineer (from way back in the day) and I remember these types of discussions, were you'd just "geek out" with your friends. I'm going to buy Paul's book at @adafruit!
Such a beautiful video. I really enjoyed it. Thank you.
Wow, great interview of a fantastic guy
Clearly a genius too.
Excellent, just ordered the book. Indispensable reference.
I have the latest versions of the books. Can recommend.
its hard
Fun read but doesn't go down to device at atomic level. When you find out the direction of electric field within the depletion layer of a pn junction it may surprise you. Argued at length about it with my physics tutor but he had the red ink pen lol.
Cool interview!
I know this is stating the obvious but this guy has sheer mastery of his subject.
I need to take loan to buy this book in my country
One of the first books I bought as a practicing engineer. Good for analog circuits, but quickly outdated for digital electronics and programming...Looking forward to seeing the update
Who is this book for? is it for advanced electrical engineering or is it for a completley beginner who just knows ohms law?
1mrGhost It is good for all. A complete beginner needs to have a bit of smarts, but with the brain as a tool this is a comprehensive guide to practical electronics.
Great interview
Really interesting man, I enjoyed hering him talk, but that woman interrupting is just so annoying.
+Woanders One if you dont want to hear someone else speak go watch a lecture instead of a interview ;)
Just so happy seeing Paul. What a great professor he's.
More people interested in electronics should get into ham radio. Lots of stuff to build and endless aspects of practical physics....like unterminated coax and space communications
Lady Ada was so delightfully awestruck by Paul.
+Richard Burgmann I couldn't agree more.. Almost more than that, haha. I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice her body language towards him and his experiences.
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Amazing Work Dr. Horowitz.
How about interviewing Thomas C. Hayes the coauthor of the student manual?