Everything that Phillip Schofield says further validates Ed's arguments. Well done Ed, showing everyone how its done and out classing everyone here by a country mile ❤
The cost argument from Julie is a non-argument. Things like beans, lentils, peanuts, chickpeas, garden peas and soya milk (50p per litre now), along with a big range of vegetables, grains and fruits that we are used to eating in the UK, are far cheaper than animal products. As to the issue of time taken for food preparation, many of these can be bought in a form with little preparation needed, e.g. microwaving some kidney beans from a can for 3 mins. As Ed says, the biggest issue with this whole situation is education, including on cooking. We should do more to educate people on what a good diet looks like, how to prepare it and how much different foods cost. Also, if we had a food subsidy system valuing production rather than just land ownership (animal ag uses 85% of UK farmland but produces just 32% of calories and 49% of protein for human consumption), then the price difference would be even greater between plants and animal products.
Unfortunately, many people like Julie who demand that vegans better educate others and make plant based food more affordable/accessible are also the people unwilling to listen/do their own research. If Julie took a minute to Google the cost difference between a plant based diet and an omnivorous/carnivorous one, she would have found everything you just explained. They just don't want to accept the facts.
Sorry but how did the conversation go from facts about veganism to how much of a victim that woman was. Her getting death threats has nothing to do with veganism. Suvha pointless arguement. Ed on the other hand jyst spoke facts from an objective standpoint which is the whole point in a debate
I’ve saved a tremendous amount of money going vegan. Tofu costs $2.50, tempeh $3.50, chickpeas 80 cents, pound of lentils $1, pound of beans $1, can of beans $1 or less, pack of seitan $5, 4 pack of veggie burgers $4.50. Meanwhile, one package of meat is typically $10+. Processed meat like hotdogs is cheaper but processed meat is very unhealthy.
I would like to see these receipts or screenshots. Rather of these said Bretz this woman received because it’s one thing to stay you receive those threats. It’s another person to produce them vegans don’t threaten people like that and if they are doing that, and claiming to be a vegan there, no vegan friends of true vegan vegans are nonviolent we’re pretty much the equivalent to like a monk a Buddhist we don’t believe in violence, which is why we’re fighting against violence to animals.
@@mariatanya3533 never makes sense and that’s why we vegans don’t promote any kind of violence, to animals or non human animals. Just crazy how people can’t grasp that and then threaten us. Your answer is as good as mine
YES they are. I had a vegan attack me for lighting a BBQ in my back yard. I beat the crap out of him and when the cops arrived they tazed him, beat him for resisting, and then arrested him. Irony here was we lit the grill for corn on the cob. 100% serious.
Since you don't seem to realize: Your comment just screams "I'm insecure and feel guilty about eating meat so I'm going to comment something mean to hurt others in a desperate attempt to deviate my attention away from my own feelings which I cannot handle". Hope it helps x
Everything that Phillip Schofield says further validates Ed's arguments. Well done Ed, showing everyone how its done and out classing everyone here by a country mile ❤
The cost argument from Julie is a non-argument. Things like beans, lentils, peanuts, chickpeas, garden peas and soya milk (50p per litre now), along with a big range of vegetables, grains and fruits that we are used to eating in the UK, are far cheaper than animal products. As to the issue of time taken for food preparation, many of these can be bought in a form with little preparation needed, e.g. microwaving some kidney beans from a can for 3 mins. As Ed says, the biggest issue with this whole situation is education, including on cooking. We should do more to educate people on what a good diet looks like, how to prepare it and how much different foods cost. Also, if we had a food subsidy system valuing production rather than just land ownership (animal ag uses 85% of UK farmland but produces just 32% of calories and 49% of protein for human consumption), then the price difference would be even greater between plants and animal products.
Unfortunately, many people like Julie who demand that vegans better educate others and make plant based food more affordable/accessible are also the people unwilling to listen/do their own research. If Julie took a minute to Google the cost difference between a plant based diet and an omnivorous/carnivorous one, she would have found everything you just explained. They just don't want to accept the facts.
Dude, can you super please help me with ideas for lazy people's meals that are vegan and can replace protein? I need a community or something
@@Iris-vo5gd r/veganrecipes, r/EatCheapAndVegan, r/veganfitness.
@@Andy__0 thank you!
Ed has inspired me to make moves in the most compassionate. Way. Possible. Starting now.
its cheaper to be vegan in most cases. depends what u buy.
Sorry but how did the conversation go from facts about veganism to how much of a victim that woman was. Her getting death threats has nothing to do with veganism. Suvha pointless arguement. Ed on the other hand jyst spoke facts from an objective standpoint which is the whole point in a debate
“If you frighten me that much, I will eat a sausage”. This aged well.
How come, I don’t follow them
@@dissimulantmamba6273 i think it's a joke about him coming out as gay lol
@@lifesarisk9086 ohh, thanks
I don't think so. Animals deserve rights and liberation!
Julie just doesn't get it, does she? She doesn't
Yes you're not gonna shove your beliefs on her. She's a grown woman who can make her own dietary choices.
@@mariatanya3533 She's a grown woman who can make her own totally uninformed* dietary choices ;)
@@mariatanya3533 She's a grown woman who should make the RIGHT dietary choices, not childish ones.
We should be willing to do whatever necessary to save animals from genocide.
Im a vegan and a feminist. Big fan of Julie and Ed. This is such a pointless boring waste of a non debate.
Its just trying to create division.
ummm how is feminism different from veganism? genuine question.
yeah and the new feminism creates division as well :D Feminists should wake up instead of calling themselves woke
gotta love Ed
Vegan for the animals!
This woman is feminist fighting to protect women from voilence but won't extend compassion to animals.
Terrible from Schofield here
The TV networks, every time, give the non-vegan the last word. It's so frustrating, as that's what the audience will remember from the conversation.
Carnists are the equivalent of lung cancer patients making fun of people who don't smoke.
And you are paying for it with your health, Julie. Karma.
This woman is frustrating
No you are
@@mariatanya3533 Cry harder
I’ve saved a tremendous amount of money going vegan. Tofu costs $2.50, tempeh $3.50, chickpeas 80 cents, pound of lentils $1, pound of beans $1, can of beans $1 or less, pack of seitan $5, 4 pack of veggie burgers $4.50. Meanwhile, one package of meat is typically $10+. Processed meat like hotdogs is cheaper but processed meat is very unhealthy.
Nicely handed Ed, doesn’t matter what the subject is you get militants on both sides.
what schofield says at 07:08
Quite worrying considering the news that's come out recently 😂
Makes sense now hahq
As a militant vegan, we're sorry. Guess we scared him too much.
I would like to see these receipts or screenshots. Rather of these said Bretz this woman received because it’s one thing to stay you receive those threats. It’s another person to produce them vegans don’t threaten people like that and if they are doing that, and claiming to be a vegan there, no vegan friends of true vegan vegans are nonviolent we’re pretty much the equivalent to like a monk a Buddhist we don’t believe in violence, which is why we’re fighting against violence to animals.
They do and it's freaking ironic. You claim to be against killing yet you threaten people with death. Make it make sense.
@@mariatanya3533 never makes sense and that’s why we vegans don’t promote any kind of violence, to animals or non human animals. Just crazy how people can’t grasp that and then threaten us. Your answer is as good as mine
YES they are.
I had a vegan attack me for lighting a BBQ in my back yard.
I beat the crap out of him and when the cops arrived they tazed him, beat him for resisting, and then arrested him.
Irony here was we lit the grill for corn on the cob. 100% serious.
You sound like such a hard man.
YAWN. Sounds so true. NOT
me when i lie
Source: trust me
Cool story
Enjoying a beautiful seasoned tomahawk steak while watching 😋
😂 🥩
Since you don't seem to realize: Your comment just screams "I'm insecure and feel guilty about eating meat so I'm going to comment something mean to hurt others in a desperate attempt to deviate my attention away from my own feelings which I cannot handle". Hope it helps x
@@Maddie5b Nah 🤣
This woman is frustrating
Like you
@@mariatanya3533 Cry harder