@@greenlandabuji7263 Gospel of John 17:22 “I have given them the glory you gave me, so they may be one as we are one.” Jesus gave his glory to his disciples so they can be one with God like him. How many Gods is that ??
The sayings by Christ, extracted from the Gospel according to John, are, beside being in their full form extraordinarily repetitive and even laborious, are no more than hearsay. If it was ever offered as eye-witness testimony then its validity falls upon barren ground.
Correct Here is the Simple answer You can read the mention 2 bible verses ,the 2nd Bible Verse gives the answer to the First bible verse mention below. John14:28 we see that Jesus said My Father is greater than I. Philippian2:6 talks about Jesus being God but he didn't consider equality with God he took a humble position as a human while he is on Earth
@@bkhan1741 because his father/creator/god is greater than him.... He also said the following with quran backing it: Matthew 4:109 10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[a Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Qur'an 20:14 "I am God; there is no other god beside Me. You shall worship Me alone, and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) to remember Me. Quran 51:56 I did not create the jinns and the humans except to worship Me alone. quran maedah 5:116 And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen. quran maedah 5:117 I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: “Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me,1 You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.
It would be very wonderful if anyone who reads this would please pray for my mom. She had thyroid surgury recently. And lately shes been depressed. Having thoughhs of killing herself. She doesnt wanna turn to Jesus. Please pray she changes her mind ! Please please please help her !!
Don't worry God loves everyone even who hate him that is the special love of Lord Jesus Christ every thing will be alright in his presence I wish you should live happy with your mom I also pray for your mom's operation
Child Of the Most High God . What she prayed to jesus and it didn’t help? How would you look at it then ? What if she didn’t pray to jesus and she made it through? How would you look at it? It seems you want to believe so hard that no matter what happens god is great. I’m not religious by any means and I hope your mom will be ok. I lost my mom almost 2 years ago and it is painful. But I think putting faith into something that could never have a negative outcome is not a good way to live (because undesirable outcomes are never gods fault). If it is gods will then no matter how much you pray or ask for prayers, will not affect her outcome.
Bible says it rains on the just as well as the unjust. God's grace and mercy is extended to all. I pray that your mom will allow the love of God to enter her heart and that she will have peace of mind.
That’s the thing I can’t hate something I don’t believe in. I don’t hate leprechauns or unicorns because they don’t exist. I don’t hate the devil because he don’t exist. I don’t hate god because he don’t exist. This was the point I was trying to make, no matter what happens to his mom god will either be great (if she heals) or god wanted her in heaven (if she doesn’t make it). Seems like this god can do no wrong, no matter the heart ache he puts on peoples hearts. Seems a little silly to me, but I’m just using the brain this so called god gave me.
Yes AGREED. In his incarnation in FLESH, Jesus LOWERED himself to the status of a SERVANT. But in his very NATURE, he is DEITY. "Being in very nature God... he made himself nothing, by taking on the nature of a servant" (Philippians 2:8,7). "In Christ, all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form" (Colossians 2:9).
A Jehovah’s Witness brought this up to me once, and I replied that she was subordinate to her husband, but they were both still equally human. In the same way, Jesus voluntarily subordinated himself to his Father, but they both remain equally divine.
@@exioz99, The Jesus of the Bible is Creator God, and there were no gods formed before God nor will there ever be after him, nor is there any other Savior beside him. He is the One True God, so all others are false.
@@exioz99, Jehovah’s Witnesses is a false religious cult because they teach a different Jesus, and many people who escape their control sadly never trust the God of the Bible. I hope you escape and find Jesus.
I've been following this series of questions from the audience member since the begining, I'd really LOVE to see the Q&A with this guy in is entirety!! He's obviously a smart guy and is asking pretty intelligent questions. Honestly this is the kind of resource that helps me the most when sharing my faith with unbelieving friends!
Jacob Fogg Man these christian speakers use this psychological trick on people. When someone ask a simple question, they give them a very complicated answer such so that the questioner gets tired and confused and doesn’t want to look like a fool for not understanding so they just say ok fine thanks for the answer and doesn’t insist. And to the public the speaker looks “intelligent” but no one really wants to question or doubt him. And the speaker is a professional at it never gives up. Very disappointing.
@Oftin Wong Please then explain why you reject Christianity and what is your belief then? We must first figure where your agenda to criticize comes from and then we can then answer your objections and or points of debate. If you are not willing to debate then why critic something you know nothing about? For instance, one cannot answer a person that accepts, Buddha, Hinduism and Islam or atheism in the same manner that you would be able to present Christ to an agnostic
@Oftin Wong I wasn't implying anything but was wondering on how to approach someone who dogmas a hate for something so callously. However I see your mind is made up and filled with hate so I will just move along as I couldn't possibly be the one who moves or opens a closed heart. So educated but understands nothing is a fool. Proverbs 18:2" A fool takes no pleasure in understanding. but expressing his opinion. Proverbs 26:9 "If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, there is no quiet. proverbs 28:26 "Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom (of the Lord) will be delivered. Proverbs 1:7 " The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, fools despise wisdom and instruction. Please understand that true Christianity is not a religion but a fellowship among those that have accepted Jesus Christ as the One true Savior of mankind. Until then, you do not understand Christianity or Jesus Christ.
@Oftin Wong If I cannot use the bible or Creation science to explain my opinion then why bother to debate. For a true debate on religion would never put such restrictions on free speech and defense of ones faith. For true Christianity is the Gospel of Christ. I suggest that saying that someone is not wise to defend Christianity shows utter contempt and a disregard for any one who believes. Most of the greatest minds known have believed in Christ or an intelligent designer to this world. Only Christianity explains a loving and a forgiving creator. Only Christianity explains that character in a GOD. My simple question is often used and thus greatly borrowed from Frank Turek himself; "would you accept Christianity if it was proven true? I do suggest that you please refrain from mocking others belief though. It will bring out a defense. Especially here at Cross Examined.
@Oftin Wong Do not cast pearls before swine. Meaning why waste my time with value with someone who would not appreciate it were they to share in it. It's not a sin to walk away from a argument with a close minded fools as I choose not to waste my time with the failed logic of self righteous people who judge others before they get to understand where their point is coming from. After all I gave you Bible verses earlier to prove my point in debating a brick wall. You never did answer my question though. "Would you accept Jesus Christ if He was to be proven to be the Truth, the Way, and the Life?" If you choose not to answer the question then feel free to remark in anyway you wish. For I will not answer you back until you answer my question. You didn't when any debate or prove a point. You did however show me just where some people stand on intellectual debate of Christianity and or Jesus Christ now! Now I know why free speech and practice of ones religion is being silenced in higher education places of learning. You can't argue the truth so they just silence it and try to remove it from record.
The son ALWAYS inherit the nature of his parents and because Jesus born of the Holy Spirit and a Human Mother, Jesus is FULLY Divine (Spirit) and FULLY Human (Flesh)
@YJ Why do you quote only those scriptures that support your position while completely ignoring the ones that don't... That's called being disingenuous.
"Flesh" does not dwell in the Heavens. And Jesus was "Born" a human being...Not a GOD. And Scripture does NOT say he "INHERITED" a Divine Nature---Scripture says, he was "Given," not only the "Holy Spirit,' but, "All Power and Authority." So, if Jesus is LITERALLY GOD---how do we explain these things?
Read Colossians 1:14-16. Doesn’t matter God can be in a billion different places but he’s 100% there. God made us in the image of Jesus. We are visual creatures so we need to see our God which is why he created Jesus (Colossians 2:9.) He’s 100% in Jesus and 100% with you even though he’s with other people at the same time.
@YJ They'll find a way around it like they always do, Trinity magic. He prayed to himself, harakiri himself and asked himself why he has forsaken himself. lol
Jesus was not limited in place even when he was in earth as a human !!! John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. Jesus says that he (son of man) came down from heaven but also WAS IN HEAVEN !!! When Jesus said these words he was in earth in flesh...
@YJ Jesus is not God... But the son of God and God gave jesus all authority so being s muslim guess who's gonna judge you jesus christ you will stand before him and without his blood you will go to hell
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Here is the Simple answer You can read the mention 2 bible verses ,the 2nd Bible Verse gives the answer to the First bible verse mention below. John14:28 we see that Jesus said My Father is greater than I. Philippian2:6 talks about Jesus being God but he didn't consider equality with God he took a humble position as a human while he is on Earth
Remember, "but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men." Philippians 2:7 To many it's "but emptied himself..."
@@viviennebaptiste Jesus became human flesh, of course his Father was greater than him. He was talking about his human nature, and this verse proves this
@@ModerateMic Solomon Wrote Proverbs, and this is before Jesus came to earth. Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? There was always a Father and a Son, I've been praying and researching, i have been fouding that the "comforter" aka holy spirit, is Jesus Christ in divine Nature, thats why it is called the spirit of truth "I am the truth, the way and the Life" And Everything was made Through Christ, and Christ is God, or."The spirit of God" But he is not the Father, he makes it very clear. You will see that Proverbs 30:4 refers to The Father and the Son doing all things together, cause nothin was created without Christ, they are "one", the same pattern they call a godly marriage to be, man and wife become "one" And Jesus compare us with a bride and him being the groom. We cannot explain it perfectly because Jesus didnt do it for us, but its clear that Jesus is God, but he is not the Father, They are one and together but not one literal being.
Don't misinterpret what jesus(p.b.u.h) said by adding your own words and understanding in the bible. And accept the fact that the father is indeed greater than jesus (p.b.u.h). And that his father is our father, and his God is our God. PERIOD
@Salvador Burce Jr. you're so ignorant and yet wanna sort of "*DEBATE*" with me. You should probably go AND NOT JUST READ THE AL-QUR'AN **BUT** ALSO TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT THE WORDS OF GOD. YOU GUYS JUST READ ONE **SINGLE AND PARTICULAR** VERSE FROM ANY SOURATE AND JUST COME TO THE MUSLIMS TO DEBAFE AND ALSO TRY TO DEBUNK THE AL-QUR'AN. And now the reply to your suggestion is just as simple as blinking the eyelid. The (p.b.u.h) is not something that we muslims or any Muslim, they will tell you the exact answer. But when MUSLIMS ASKS Christians preachers about THE TRINITY SYMBOLISM, if you ask ten(10) DIFFERENT preacher, you will get TEN(10) COMPLETE DIFFERENT ANSWERS ACCORDING TO THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND NOT FROM THE BIBLE, BECAUSE THE TRINITY ISN'T MENTIONED ANY WHERE IN THE BIBLE❗❗❗ OK NOW YOUR REPLY, the word "peace be upon him" isn't something that we muslims as human beings, has APPROVED OF, THOUGHT OF, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF or like WE FELT LIKE WE SHOULD JUST WRITE IT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS GOOD AND DIVINE, but SINCE ALLAH AZZAWAJAL Himself says it in the al-Qur'an AND we were asked to GIVE HIM RESPECT AND ALSO ADDRESS TO HIM, MOHAMUD (S.A.W), IN HUMILITY AND WITH LOVE. ❗❗❗❗❗THE SAME IS FOR JESUS/EESA (P.B,U.H). WE MUSLIMS BELIEVES HE'S ONE OF THE MIGHTIEST PROPHETS, BORN OUT OF MIRACLE WITH NO FATHER. AND WE,MUSLIMS, WE LOVES JESUS/EESA (P.B.U.H) MORE AND MUCH MORE THAN ANY CHRISTIAN DO. AND WE ALSO FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS, WHICH Y'ALL CHRISTIANS DON'T. BUT ONLY BRAGGED ABOUT THE **"BLOOD OF CHRIST:**⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔HOW FUNNY
Hello listen to what I have to say I was lost to sin and followed the world but at 12 year's of age a few months ago I was saved from the pits of hell by Jesus Christ and now have given my life to him. Accept the gift of God Which is life everlasting after death we humans have done wrong and have sinned and all deserve hell. But God(being Jesus his Son) in his Mercy and Love died on a Cross so that our debt that sends us to Hell may be paid in full because Jesus was Perfect and did no wrong and died and suffered because of his Love. Pray to Jesus to be born again and to be given a new life that serves him alone not yourself or the devil but instead Jesus and ask to be given contrition meaning guilt for all your sin an then ask for forgiveness of your sin from Jesus Christ and repent and start learning more about him and his Father and the Holy Spirit by reading the Bible an praying start reading the new Testament and then the old Testament in the Bible start going to a Church weather it be Orthodox Catholic or Protestant and be Baptized and keep praying to God in truth and Spirit
I've seen many people trying to answer this question with so many zigzags along the way, but this is the most no-nonsense, clear and concise response! Well done!
Many times the desciples asked Jesus "show us the father", Jesus said, "If you have seen me, you have seen my father, so why do you say to me show us the father. Don't you know that I and my father are one." Jesus also said that "No man can know whether it is the father speaking at a given moment or when it is the son speaking, except it is revealed to him by God." A perfect example is when Jesus said to Peter, "Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but the Spirit of my father." Also remember that the Word of God came out from (proceeded or was begotten by) God. Some times I have this thoughts that they are similar in appearance.
@Vindya Fernando "It was Jesus who says so" Exactly! And Paul was directly taught by Jesus Christ, who revealed himself to him, and that's how Paul became OUR Apostle. We get our Doctrine by his letters, and he is our example in this Dispensation of Grace.
@@fsdfmsbcxx I'm confused about what is the difference between apostle and prophet in christianity. Because from my point of view .. basicly you are saying Paul is a christian prophet ? coz being a prophet or navi (in judaism) means someone who chosen by God to receive His revelation, commandmends and truth to proclaim and teach it to other humans while some being empowered with miracles and powers from God as a prove that he really is from God. So by that definition .. Paul seems to me fit to be called a christian prophet or a prophet for the gentiles. But some christian seems to hesitate to call him a prophet but majority seems to settle with him being called an apostle. While studying from his history & actions and how the christian follower's reaction toward his teachings make it obvious to me that he really is a prophet for the christian people especially trinitarian christian. If that so .. doesnt it a proper thing for the christian to analyze if Paul really a reliable source of revelation from God ? To determine if he wasnt a false prophet as Jesus warn us about ? Because from the bible itself we can find that the other of Jesus Disciples doesnt agree with many of Paul's teaching which he claim as a new revelation from Jesus (which is god .. after his ascension). I think this is an important point to determine ... because many of the main understanding for the christian nowadays are coming or derived for what Paul teach in his letters that then become cannonized gospel of the modren bible .. and all christian claim to believe in the bible as a true revelation and commandments from the God .. and this is definately no joke whatsover .. dont you think ?
The complete verse says: Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. Explanation: why Jesus and disciples should rejoice? Because Jesus having limitations as an incarnate son/man, now going to heaven to become as power as the father. Actually It confirms Jesus divinity rather than humanity, only if we read the context not just the text.
Why god must die for us ?? Why soo unlogical and yet brutal ? He is so merciful and accept every repent from us. No need someone to die to get merci from the Almighty.
I think that their scriptures are according to the father plan. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life. He lowers himself after leaving the throne to become flesh like a man and leaving his throne to his spirit. Like, humble himself with the sameness of man and lower himself, leaving his divine glory compared to all angels in heaven. To be born in the virginity of the mother Mary. Fully God and fully man. Sinless perfect to achieve salvation, for he had to die, the blood will strike cleansing the sins, and yet almighty with as "redemeer," etc. He died as a human, but not as God, as his throne was still intact in spirit, which is why they believe in the resurrection. He had become a resurrected spirit man. All the powers and creation power given by glory from his Father to him and as equality. So, he doesn't die again this time but becomes immortal, and as stated, "God can do whatever he wants." Do not limit God's limitations. If he were to be limited< there, he isn't god, or godly things even though the plan thinks of ungodly things of god wouldn't count as "God" to them. @@diponegoro9
I think that their scriptures are according to the father plan. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life. He lowers himself after leaving the throne to become flesh like a man and leaving his throne to his spirit. Like, humble himself with the sameness of man and lower himself, leaving his divine glory compared to all angels in heaven. To be born in the virginity of the mother Mary. Fully God and fully man. Sinless perfect to achieve salvation, for he had to die, the blood will strike cleansing the sins, and yet almighty with as "redemeer," etc. He died as a human, but not as God, as his throne was still intact in spirit, which is why they believe in the resurrection. He had become a resurrected spirit man. All the powers and creation power given by glory from his Father to him and as equality. So, he doesn't die again this time but becomes immortal, and as stated, "God can do whatever he wants." Do not limit God's limitations. If he were to be limited< there, he isn't god, or godly things even though the plan thinks of ungodly things of god wouldn't count as "God" to them.@@suhailbagavathi_kavungal8438
'For our God is a consuming fire.' Hebrews 12:29 KJV 1 Fire consists of heat, fuel and oxygen. 1 God consists of Father, Son & Spirit And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit [1] and soul [2] and body [3] be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 KJV
@@sremmlyphe8064 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. Isaiah 53:3-6 KJV Who is this?
yes great point! Also when i looked up the Greek word and thought about other verses to supply context and not contradict other concepts previously taught and prayed about it I also was shown that the son was lower in location at that point in time for 30 years, temporarily on the created earth while the father was still higher up positionally in the 3rd heaven. And the son lowered himself voluntarily in office, taking on a lower position for 30 years while he humbled and emptied himself of all power amd position of authority as He said he came not to do anything of his own will but only of the father's who sent him as an apostle to do a necesssry mission. He was then made lower than the angels even as other scriptures say. The Father has stayed in the highest position until He transfers all power and all authority over to His Son bc of doing so great a work of perfrction in pure righteousness in becoming poor so that his sinful creatures might become rich after He lived out our duties without a sinlge failure in our place, redeeming all flesh us for 30 years in which we are saved then dying in our places taking away our infinite criminal debts against an infinite and just judge! The father gives over all of His authority and power but then in even more honor and humility he gives it all right back to His father after all things are put under his feet! Actions that messiah did were never fkr himself or because he had to as we do. Everything he did was for us and some of thise things are questioned by those who dont understand this and bring The Most High down to this lowest level of existence, trying to make God like us instead of realizing that God worked hard to make us like Him!
So god punished himself for the sin of mankind. But didn't he knew that man would sin prior of the creation of human beings⁉️ Didn't he knew that Adam and Eve would be tempted and deceived by satan⁉️ You do believe that God is loving, caring, JUST and FORGIVING ❗❗ So, couldn't He just forgive our sins⁉️ instead of "sacrificing his son"(as per Christians theology)❗❗ And where is justice in taking someone's life⁉️ And as Christian claims that "god so loved the world that he gave his only *BEGOTTEN* son". So would a father sacrifice his only son for someone else's sins⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
@@natemartin7296 exactly my point ❗ But Christians don't believe that. They believe otherwise, hence the baptism ceremony ❗ IDK if you're a Christian but they believe that only after the baby is baptize that he's free of worldly sin " in the blood of christ"⁉️⁉️
Plasms 83:18) Jehovah is the Most High. (King james Bible) (luke 1:32) Calls Jesus the Son of the Most High. Jesus is Jehovah's Son (John 17:3) Eternal(Everlasting ) Life. Have to know them both.Amen
@Dan M that did not come from a scripture in the Bible and if it doesn't come from the Bible it's not worth my time. Sola scriptura. The word of God is sufficient to explain our faith. There is no "mother" that we pray to or "mother" that saves us. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul clearly taught justification by faith in Christ. It is in the name of Jesus that we find salvation and forgiveness and healing and hope for our soul. Ephesians 2:8,9 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
@@jimenaarayaa.7711 : Jesus is certainly submissive to his God and creator even in heaven. After Jesus restores paradise for this earth and brings humans back to a perfect state, Jesus HANDS OVER the rule of this earth to his God, Jehovah. Then Jesus, now a mighty angel, will, along with ALL CREATION come under God's guardianship. 1 Corinthians 15:24 Next, the end, when HE HANDS OVER THE KINGDOM TO HIS GOD AND FATHER, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king UNTIL God has put all enemies under his feet. 26 And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing. 27 For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this DOES NOT INCLUDE the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then THE SON HIMSELF WILL ALSO SUBJECT HIMSELF to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be ALL THINGS TO EVERYONE. I CAPITALIZED words to help.
Yep, He said that He is YHWH and the Son of God, the Jews understand His words - John 10:30,33....... In the O.T. God WALKS on the Earth, guess WHO is HE....... (YESHUA/the WORD of course) WHO was "the Stranger" on the road in Joshua 5:13-15???? (JESUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS..........) Jesus Almighty bless you! Shalom.
Exactly, Geoff Nelson. Sometimes taking the Word of God for exactly what it says is much easier than trying to make it fit with our "mysterious" theology.
He meant it just as he stated. The world will know this truth soon. All who degraded my Father will suffer the repercussions of their actions. And Jesus on that day will say, "Away from me evil doers, I do not know you!" My Father is God and Jesus is my brother. We were created by our Father and we are his most treasured sons because we treasure our Father. There are more of us around than people know, but we prepare the world for the return of our Messiah, so he may ready the world for the coming of our Father's Kingdom. All are lesser than God and his power unmatched. Jesus fears God, as do I because we know his truth.
“Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.” Philippians 2:5-8 NKJV Consider and meditate on this.
It actually says from Greek translation that even though he existed in God's form, or spirit, he did not consider equality something to be grasped. So many bibles twist the words of that scripture to follow a narrative. Translation other than version is generally the way to study. Brings to mind of one spirit that did consider or desire equality with God. Give u one guess
Mr Nice Guy Spiritually speaking, Jesus has the same divine nature as the father. He existed before the beginning of time with the father. So, from that standpoint, he is God. Only thing close to explain it is, human beings have the same nature as their parents, but ARE NOT equal to them in many ways (authority, position, etc).
@@mrniceguy3006 can I suggest some other script to meditate on Heb.1 and pay close attention to vs3 and then before you get hung up on vs8 read vs9 and reference 1Cor.8:5,6 and let me know what you think.
And when Jesus tells us that we can do greater things than he has shown, he's trying to let us know that we all have a divine nature, he's just more in tune with his then we are with ours. I'm glad to hear that he didn't say that Jesus Christ and God the Father were one in the same being. Jesus never said such a thing nor did he ever imply such a thing.
Not exactly what he meant, yes we all as believer in him Have been given the Spirit which creates a new nature, but we are not perfected nor has the totality of being divine in position and office the same as him. He is Lord and High priest and all things were made through him and for him, he is Aleph and the Tav! The greater works are not superior to the one who gives in us to work his works or supersede his ability and supply of the Spirit. For in Christ had the Spirit without measure! What is intended in the saying;" greater works ye shall do than these" is in the scope of numbers. Ultimately it is the Father who draws men to Christ and the gospel through the Spirit brings conversion by the blood and word!
Simple answer. Jesus is not the Father because even Jesus makes the distinction but He did say Him and the Father are ONE and that ALL authority has been given to Him by the Father. Also all the attributes that was given to God was also given to Jesus for example Jesus can forgive sins, He is to be worshipped, He is the creator of things. He sits on His throne to rule. So yes we humans try and understand the Godhead which is a spiritual thing with the limits of a physics based understanding. 14:8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? (Shalom)
Not an exact quote, but this is what I typed down real quick: >> Greater in office, not in essence. My earthly father is greater than me because he’s my father, but we’re equally human beings. Jesus had a lesser office in His human nature than the Father in His divine nature. In His human nature here, the Father is greater than Him, but He still has a divine nature as well. Jesus has a divine nature and human nature.
I think its also important to understand that symbolically the father represents the divine and Jesus the flesh. So in other words we should remember to submit our fleshy nature to our divine. Just simplifying the teaching.
God honors his word like him self but the word comesfrom God's mouth. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,... John 1:1, 14 KJV
And the word Jesus was with Jehovah. John 1: 1,2... Women are in union with men, men are in union with Jesus and Jesus is in union with our Father who is in heaven. 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is.. God. John 17: 21 Jesus said: so that they may ALL BE ONE, just as YOU, Father, are in union with ME and I am in union with YOU, that they also may be in union with US, so that the world may believe that YOU SENT ME. 22 I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as WE ARE ONE. - Our Father who is in heaven YHWH Jehovah love the world so much, that he sent his only begotten son Jesus.
@m kablan It is written in John 1:2.. and John 1:18 said that Jesus the only begotten god is at the father side and explain who the father is at the same time in Matthew 11:27 Jesus said he reveals who the father is to any one he wants. Jesus obey the first commandment to love God with all heart John 14:31
@m kablan be·get /bəˈɡet/ past participle: begotten 1. (typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.
The Father is always greater, because is The Father who makes ALL decisions, even The Son of God, taught his disciples to pray; "our heveanly Father...thy will be done".
@@keepingitreal7135 We are talking about the Heveanly Father. plus there's no such thing as a real "single mother ", cause women NEVER get pregnant without the contribution of a man.
Paul Garduno . I keep forgetting that when dealing with the bible all practical and logical things are dismissed. Sorry I forgot about this magical spirit. I wonder when jesus comes down again, will it be another mysterious magical impregnating or will it be through what all of human kind has ever witnessed.....through natural sexual acts.
Simple answer. Jesus is not the Father because even Jesus makes the distinction but He did say Him and the Father are ONE and that ALL authority has been given to Him by the Father. Also all the attributes that was given to God was also given to Jesus for example Jesus can forgive sins, He is to be worshiped, He is the creator of things. He sits on His throne to rule. So yes we humans try and understand the Godhead which is a spiritual thing with the limits of a physics based understanding. 14:8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us." 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? (Shalom)
@Robbie Stones U are misunderstanding me. I meant the man is saying that, not jesus. When u read the bible, it doesn't say that Jesus is coequal to God or he is God. ref: Act 2:22, John 5:30. and many more.
Even without the flesh, the Father is still greater than Jesus in their God head state. What makes the Father greater than Jesus even when they are both God? It's because Jesus is the Son. And the Son is not greater than his Father. He was already the Son of God even before he was brought to the earth. Hebrew 1:5. And when they were creating the world, the Son is already with the Father. Proverbs 8:27
@Daddy Pound @Daddy Pound And the messiah cant be anyone, but to Jesus alone. Hebrew 10:5 says When Jesus entered the world, God had prepared for him a body. So it cant be anyone because that body was prepared by the Father for the Son alone.
Because Jesus was in flesh, and flesh is lower than Spirit. Hebrews 2:9 -- "But we see Jesus, Who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that He by the grace of God should taste death for every man." The flesh is lower than the angels. Paul goes into a little more detail below: Philippians 2:5-11 -- "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but _made Himself of no reputation,_ and took upon Him _the form of a servant,_ and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, *He humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death,* even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a Name which is above every name: That at the Name of JESUS _every knee should bow,_ of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is LORD, to the glory of God the Father." 1 Timothy 3:16 -- "And without controversy _great is the mystery_ of godliness: *God was manifest in the flesh,* justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." --- Because of His Love for us, He *chose* to humble Himself and enter flesh, which is inferior to Spirit, just so He could sacrifice Himself for us, to save us. Jesus is not in a lower form of Deity in any way though. Note the "great is the *MYSTERY* of godliness" ? God has more than One Form and can do multiple tasks at once! :) This is a *mystery* to our minds because we're only flesh and blood, and cannot be multiple forms at once.
@@renitv I also find it interesting how people respond when politely pointing out such inconsistencies... Lately, I have been considering the statement: "the holy spirit will guide you into all truth"... (this changes my perspective on so many things) Interestingly, I don't see anywhere in scripture where it states: "your pastor(/denominational council) will guide you into all truth"... but yet... look at how we behave?
Jesus was also speaking as a man. The Jewish Messiah has to speak like that. Philippians 2:6-8, John 1, Colossians 1:15 all affirm the deity of Christ.
Just remember this. Jesus laid everything to become human just for us. When Jesus spoke of the Father is greater than him, the Father is the only true God, only God is good, etc, etc... Jesus needed us to understand who he is by glorifying the Father. When we call upon Father God, we are exactly calling upon Jesus as the Son God (Son of God) as well.
My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.” John 10:29-30 NKJV "I and My father are one"
Wrong answer he gave. Trinity is not a biblical teaching The father is greater than jesus Jesus never claimed to be equal or claimed to be almighty God
@@biblehistoryscience3530 the Jews accused jesus of claiming to be equal but jesus faught back that charge . That's the problem with trinitarians and false teachers . They only focus on what Jews said cause they assume Jews were right They dont listen to jesus words just like the Jews of jesus day What Jews charged jesus with were wrong . They were finding fault with jesus and wanted him dead
@@biblehistoryscience3530 read what jesus said in reply to the charge had on jesus Especially when they said calling God your own father making himself equal to God Calling God your father is claiming equal? Seriously? This is why jesus told them your father is the devil you do not listen to my voice
@Daddy Pound Rom 1:20 tells us that creation testifies of who God is. So yes I can compare God to Man who was created in God's image after God's likeness.
@Daddy Pound The trinity is not real! Jesus was God's only direct creation, everyone and everything was created with the help of Jesus. That's why the bible names him the master builder. Proverbs 8: 30
@Daddy Pound "yet nothing in creation can be observed to explain how a trinity can exist of 3 persons in one. " Oh ya? Creation is Time, Space and Matter. Time= Past, Present and Future. John 1:1 In the beginning was Past and Past was with Time and Past is Time." Space = Hight, Width and Depth. John 1:1 In the beginning was Hight and Hight was with Space and Hight is Space" Matter= Solid, Liquid and Gas... Creation=John 1:1 "In the beginning was Matter and Matter was with Creation and Matter is Creation. You were saying?...
@Faisal Siraj You won't be able to fathom the mystery of godliness by yourself unless Jesus through the Holy Spirit reveals it to you. That's why Muslims and other unbelievers find it difficult to grasp the trinity when in fact it's easy for Christians to understand. I don't think God will be worth it of our worship if we could describe him by our own intellect. Matthew 11:27 All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. Those are not words of just a mere prophet.
I believe this is the SPEAKERS interpretation! You heard Me Tell you, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the father, for the Father is greater than I. He (Jesus) is going BACK to the Father... Back, meaning previous place which to me implies he may have always existed as the son of God. John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. To go back to the Father means he (Father) was always greater than Jesus in terms of authority! I do believe The Father=God and He is greater than Jesus. However, I do believe without Jesus nothing is possible! The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit all have roles and work together for the good of everything. But this is my belief. Please pray and ask that the father reveals things for you and me as well. God bless you all.
@@Bazakilouis something I've considered recently is the reference to "our image". Since clearly we are both female and male, does this reference suggest God has a female counterpart, a Godess?
@@Bazakilouis An image is a physical representarion of the unseen. When God is saying let US. and when He says WE He is talking to himself. The idea and thought exists first before it is spoken. We do the exact same thing. We manifest our thought to ourselves before we act on them. We also speak to ourselves just like our heavenly Father. Also notice that scientists declare that someone that talks to themself has high intelligence and is healthier then someone who doesn't plan their thought and actions and someone that doesn't uplift themselves with their words. Well guess where we get this from? God.
Matt Rector As I grow in my faith I tend go back and often find little gems like this, and also wonder too about them. For me “Our Image” hasn’t been clear until I had revelation that there was more than just the Father present in the beginning. The Father speaking, The Holy Spirit hovering over the water, and The Son beside the Father for me clears up the “Our” part mention early in Creation. Scripture to support the Son Of God’s existence before creation. “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” John 8:56-58 Here’s it’s saying that Jesus existed way before Abraham “This truth gives them confidence that they have eternal life, which God-who does not lie-promised them before the world began.” Titus 1:2 NLT To have promised eternal life before the world began means to me that Jesus existed in some state, I’m not sure of what form. But to have a savior beforehand seems premeditated and planed. Which is why when he says he returns to the Father makes a lot of sense. “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness” Genesis 1:26 KJV Is there any scripture to help support the idea of a Goddess type? I can see your logic behind the thought. According to Genesis 2:20-23 “And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.” Genesis 2:20-23 Woman was only created to help Adam and share companionship. From Adam she was created. I believe if there was a Goddess type of being God would’ve created both male and female at the same time. Just my view I thank any and everyone of you. Much love and respect. Please share your thoughts and pray for me. As I will for you. God Bless
The Father is Greater than All, according to the words of Jesus Christ peace be upon him. That would include the son and the holy spirit. Jesus was a servant of God, a prophet, a messenger and the Messiah. Jesus held himself below God.
@@Issoirre that's perhaps a bit harsh, but it's true that this is far from his best work. It feels like there's a lot missing. Did the conversation devolve from there so they chopped it? He's perfectly capable of better answers.
@@ravissary79 You're right, I was overly harsh. This is a tough question and to try and answer it in a couple minutes does not reflect accurately the depth and meaning of this question. I was disappointed both by the answer and the reasoning ( lack of solid reasoning actually) behind it, It felt to me like Frank was scambling to come up with an answer.
Why? Because Jesus is not the Father he’s the son. He comes from the father he is not the father. God gave us an easy example of relationship between father and son so that we can completely understand why make it complecated ? He is the son and he’s also the father? Don’t make sense to me.
God is spirit!!! God was inside Jesus, in the cross, did God die? Nooo!!! The flesh died not the spirit. God is One ☝🏼 God became flesh for 33 years and showed us the way, Isaiah52:6 says that he was going to come to earth Himself. The only Supreme, Strong, and Wonderful God!!!
The Greeen Plant Nobody says Jesus is not God! He is the son of God that make him also God. If you were born in royal family they dont call you pheasant right? But there is only One god the father the creator of all you are right that he is the only one and no one is above him.But he give us his son it’ his words who become flesh. You worship the son is like you also worship the father because son comes from the father and father give authority to his son. Do you have problem with that? Isaiah 52; 6 didn’t say it’s the father himself come down and speak it say’s that he is the one that do the speaking and Lord Jesus confirming it when he said that he didn’t speak in his own accord but it’s the words of the father.
Although Yes they are all God one The Father has a higher Authority than both The Holy Spirit and The Son. They are all equal in who they are but not in what role they play as the trinity
It's good stuff to.ponder, the only difference I would take would be that it was due to Jesus being human. The Trinity (set aside the incarnation) carries with it certain inherit roles The Father SENT the Son, so he was submissive BEFORE he came flesh, and the Son SENT the Holy Ghost when he left (John 14:16) So it has nothing to do with Christ becoming man, and more to do with Christ's role in the eternal Godhead.
@@indydrummer101 Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God". This verse says Jesus was equal to God. My wife "sent" me to the grocery store to pick up milk. She is not greater than I am. We are equal in Gods eyes. Here is something interesting regarding the Trinity: Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree". This says God the Father (the God of Abraham) raised Jesus from the dead. John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up:. That verse Jesus is saying He will raise Himself from the dead. Romans 8:11 "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." This verse is saying the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the Dead. They are all equal, all One God, with no lessors.
Good response. I would add that Jesus is always pointing back to the Father, in a manner that we are to worship God alone, and not the man Jesus of Nazareth. That is why Jesus said "No one is good except God alone."
Actually, no. "Jesus is Lord"... Who says this? God is worshipped in nearly every religion out there but that doesn't mean that those worshippers know Jesus. If you want to know Jesus than you better get into a relationship with him, which requires worship of him. Otherwise Jesus himself will say, "depart from me, I never knew you...". Get to know Jesus. Worship Jesus
I can appreciate and respect what you are saying, but your response to me is out of context with what the young man is asking. I agree, salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone. But worship of Jesus in a catholic since is wrong. Which circulates back to what I previously stated. Jesus is not God, God is Jesus. So again, worship God alone. Jesus is my Savior and only hope of salvation, and my conduit and access to the throne of God. We pray to God, LORD, Father, in Jesus Name. We don't pray to Jesus in Jesus Name. Which circulates back to what I previously stated. Hope that clears it up for you.
@@Steve-qr2lm Not really an interesting way. Let's look at it logically. If God is Jesus and God is 3 persons, it follows that Jesus is the 3 persons of the Godhead. But Christians say that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are distinct. It doesn't add up logically.
no there is not. Stop complicating the truth. Jesus never once said or insinuated there are multiple meanings of God.What he taught was very simple and straight forward.
Can u show me any verse in bible where jesus himself says that "i m god" or"worship me". Because the first person that should claim that jesus should be worshiped is jesus himself. And surprisingly no single verse in the complete bible jesus says that "im god" or "me to be worshiped"
Where can we refer this Trinity's explain in Bible as how this preachers preach? Nowhere to be found in the Bible old n new Bible. So how can the preacher preach about something that is not in the Bible?
1 John 5:7-8 (KJV): 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. Are you looking for this?
@@ekoprasetyo4126 The Textual Problem in 1 John 5:7-8 Related Media “5:7 For there are three that testify, 5:8 the Spirit and the water and the blood, and these three are in agreement.” ‑‑NET Bible Before τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ καὶ τὸ αἷμα, the Textus Receptus reads ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατήρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ ἅγιον πνεῦμα, καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι. 5·8 καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῇ γῇ (“in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 5:8 And there are three that testify on earth”). This reading, the infamous Comma Johanneum, has been known in the English-speaking world through the King James translation. However, the evidence-both external and internal-is decidedly against its authenticity. Our discussion will briefly address the external evidence.1
Sounds terrible if I may say so. The bible clearly states that God's son emptied himself of his spirit form and became human. Philippians 2:7 No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and BECAME HUMAN, God SENT his son (Galatians 4:4). Lowering himself sound blasphemous. Just a thought. Malachi 3:6 “For I am Jehovah; I DO NOT CHANGE.
When Jesus said his father is greater than him , his was speaking as the son of God and the son man . But remember that's are his attributes in the work of redemption. But remember he was the Elohim (God manifested in human body. Because he said also " I and my father we are one" or my father is in me and I'am in my father" . Here he was speaking as the Elshadai. It means in his attribute of the fatherhood. Jesus is the father is the son and is the holy ghost. "Three manifestation of one God" not three Gods or three in one God. But one God which manifested him self as the father in heaven, as the son on earth and as the holy Ghost in his church.
Jesus prayed to his Father. Jesus even said at Matthew 6:9, "OUR Father in the heavens....". What about his prayer to his Father before and during his sacrifice? So, are Trinity believers saying that Jesus prayed to himself and answered his own prayers? Oh, one more thing, God loved us so much that he GAVE his only begotten Son. John 3:16, 17. Verse 17 says God SENT his Son. Can you give up your son or send your son somewhere and then call you and son the same person? Now, I do believe that Jesus perfectly reflected his Father and did the will of Yahweh. Therefore, we must follow Jesus and pray to the same Father that Jesus taught his disciples to pray too.
@@TheCoatstar Then may i ask .. in your opinion or what you believe who Jesus was or who Jesus is now ? is Jesus The God (as the trinitarian says) or he is a god or is he neither of that ? What role did Jesus take in his life time ? what kind of ministry did he convey to the people ? and last thing what do you think about Paul (Saul) ? who do you think he is ? Sorry for the many questions :D They're not meant to push you or anything i just curious in your opinion about this things
Of course Jesus is lesser compared to the Almighty Father. Jesus comes from the Father, Begotten Son means comes from, not created sons of God like angels and man. But Jesus is greater than everything else, other than the Father. But the Father loved him dearly, the world was created through Him (Yeshua the Word of God) and for Him. Yet the world despise Him. Because the Father loved His Begotten Son dearly, He is Given the power to rule and judge all things, and given the title Messiah.
Isaiah 9:6- Jesus is THE EVERLASTING FATHER - The Bible said there is only One Father, One GOD. Jesus also says He is The ALMIGHTY GOD. Amen. We are commanded to worship THE LORD they GOD, and Him ONLY. Righf? They worshipped Jesus, and HE accepted their worship. Either Jesus sinned, by not correcting them, or He, alone, is worthy of our praise and worship.
@@mikerozman5472 Jesus is the Word of Yahweh, He is also the Begotten Son. It is not wrong to call Jesus God, because He is the Second Being in Elohim, Yahweh being the First. They both existed since the ancient of times. 16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E) John 3:16 Some english bible translation is abit off. Kjv said everlasting father. Niv said just eternal. I think we should seek thr hebrew source. Could you point out Which passage in scripture where Jesus accept people worship Him? As far as i know, Jesus never glorify Himself, he even teaches us the Lord prayer. But He does say Believe in Him (Messiah), because He is the Gate between us and the Father. Cheers
@@mikerozman5472 Plasms 83:18) Jehovah is the Most High. (King james Bible) (luke 1:32) Calls Jesus the Son of the Most High. Jesus is Jehovah's Son (John 17:3) Eternal(Everlasting ) Life. Have to know them both.Amen
John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. So the truth here stated applies to the relationship between God and Christ in heaven.)1 Cor. 15:27, 28 RS: “‘God has put all things in subjection under his [Jesus’] feet.’ But when it says, ‘All things are put in subjection under him,’ it is plain that he is excepted who put all things under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things under him, that God may be everything to every one. ”The Hebrew word Shad·daiʹ and the Greek word Pan·to·kraʹtor are both translated “Almighty.” Both original-language words are repeatedly applied to Jehovah, the Father. (Ex. 6:3; Rev. 19:6) Neither expression is ever applied to either the Son or the holy spirit.
Jesus returned to the Father i.e. back to the God form away from the human form. Paul met Him on the road to Damascus. He was dwelling in a blindingly bright light for Scripture says God has clothed Himself with light. Rev 1:8 says Jesus is the Almighty.
@@williamokello1566 its not bright light its a fire...and in the same bible it said that Satan comes in the form of fire...now a question to you, who did Paul really met? Was it really Jesus or Satan?
its clearly what it said Jesus says "my father is greater than i" because Jesus is the God the Son and his father is GOD the father.. Jesus is always been God in human form. the bible said human always have Sin .. Jesus never have Sin thats why he is not human he is GOD.. how evil spirits know Jesus and run when they see Jesus because they know Jesus is God.. common guys the bible is clearly what it said.. like a father speak to his child what you read is clearly what its said. 🥰
The Bible is clear but your understanding isn't. (John 5:30) I CANNOT DO A SINGLE THING OF MY OWN INITIATIVE. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the WILL OF HIM WHO SENT ME.. (John 13:16) Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, NOR IS ONE WHO IS SENT GREATER THAN ONE WHO HAS SENT HIM. Jesus had no sin because He was a perfect man and that was necessary to atone for the perfect life lost by Adam. I suppose you think Adam and Eve weren't perfect? Or were they Gods too? See how far off your thinking is?
@@djparsons7363 Jesus is not perfect Man he is Son of GOD thats why he dont Sin.. Jesus talks about the GOD the father who sent Jesus .. why its hard to people except GOD sent JESUS and GOD says "this is my Son who i love" the father is GOD so the SON is also GOD .. is that hard to put in yoir tiny brain.
@@djparsons7363 i know how to read and what it says what i read.. not people who read and decifer the code and tell lies to satisfide there worldly needs
@@makimak7703 Your beliefs ARE lies. You can read Scripture but you don't know what it actually means, so you are believing lies. You say Jesus was without sin because He Is God, but your microscopic brain can't explain Adam and Eve being without sin. I notice you didn't try to come up with some more lies to explain that.
So Jesus, who you call "GOD," is...LESSER IN OFFICE? How do you account for that? Why then is the Name Jesus..."ABOVE ALL NAMES," and yet---a "Lesser Office?" Hmmm.
@@Hdlc27 YEH, but GOD isn't, "IN THE FLESH." GOD is NOT a "Man." GOD is Spirit...He does not change, or Morph into a man. Jesus, on the other hand, IS a man, who, according to Scripture, was given, "ALL POWER AND AUTH- ORITY." How do you explain that, my friend. And if Jesus is GOD---LITERALLY---then WHY, Why would he have to be giv- en even the..."Holy Spirit?" (ACT10:38). Listen, good brother, you can try to manufactuure some clever, man-made diversion, but---Come ON---If Jesus Was LITERALLY GOD, he would NOT NEED these SPI- RITUAL Anointings FROM his...FATHER---Right? Be blessed. Stay healthy.
Hi. I see many comments of people REJECTING the DIVINITY of CHRIST/YHWH and you are there almost always... Why you read the O.T. and can NOT see the LORD of the O.T. - Jesus the CHRIST???????? Isaiah 9:6, Hebrews 1:8-10, John 1:1-14, Genesis 1:26, 3:8, 17:3, 19:24, Job 42:5............... GOD Yeshua (YHWH Jesus) bless you. Shalom.
@@vijdamvsichko9077 My friend, nobody said Jesus is NOT the "Christ," except the Muslims, and JW's. He IS the Christ---the... "Only begotten OF THE FATHER." He was given "All Power and Authority" BY his FATHER. And YES---he possesses "Divinity," because be "OBEYED" his FATHER, "Even unto the Cross." GOD bless. Stay healthy, my friend.
@@vijdamvsichko9077 ...And YES---there are almost 200 Prophecies in the Old Testament concerning the "Coming of Christ," so---Yes, Jesus is definitely IN the Old Testament.
Honestly, It’s says the farther is greater than I and the father is greater than all. Simple Doesn’t mean anything other than that. The farther is the greatest. He has no equals Can Christins stop changing the meaning of what issues said. He did Not say my human form is less than the farther but my spirit form is equal. The bike clearly points to the farther as one who has no equals. Jesus was born through marry. He ate, he slept, he walked, he talked but he didn’t say he was god or worship him.
@@z7456 Yeah, but he was also a prophet. A prophet is one that delivers the words of God, and foretells future events. He was indeed _also_ a prophet, just as he called himself.
Godwin Adjei The Bible does call Jesus; God with us. The scripture also says that Jesus who is the Logos is God and that He was also with God. There is the distinction. The Bible does teach that Jesus is God the Son. John 1 and That’s Biblical. Just as the word Rapture is not in the Bible, are you going to deny that the rapture will not happened, because the word Rapture is not biblical?
@@thereisnopandemic I did say I believe in Christ's deity & the distinction. But Jesus was the eternal Logos before he became the Son of God in his incarnation. He's called Emmanuel because he's God manifested in the flesh and the image of the invisible God. I'd rather use the term 'the Godhead' just like the term 'the catching up' of the saints (1 Thess 4:17) instead of rapture. These terms are biblical.
@@paulbacon5056 You're right I have. But I've also heard of Allah and his teachings, Buddha and his teachings, etc. Of all the religions how can you be so sure that Christianity is the only correct one?
This is great... a belief that requires a guy with notes to ask a guy with diagrams projected on a screen, to explain something that allegedly has been around for 2000 years. And this is the convoluted religion a rational god would intend?
Jim Callahan Simply because things are deep and have layers to them doesn’t mean there’s no truth to them... Shakespeare’s writing are often hard to understand, doesn’t mean there’s no truth to it. Therefore, how much more deepness & Sophistication would there be in theology & it’s scripture that was inspired by a divine being? Because things may be hard to understand for us, especially removed from its language & historical context, doesn’t mean it’s not true. Poor Argument
The simple answer is Jesus was a messenger from God, that's why he said I'm going back to the one who sent me, and also he said God why have you forsaken me?!?!? When he was on the cross.
SD invincible, the person of the Son (who is God) is subordinate to the person of the Father (who is also God), so it's proper for each person to refer to the other person as “God”. So, just as the Son refers to the Father as “God” in Matt 27 (quoting Psalm 22), the Father refers to the Son as God and Hebrews 1 (quoting Psalm 45).
@@biblehistoryscience3530 no man he was simply a messenger from God, the Trinity that you struggle to explain is not true, any profit said God is one, monotheism is the way not trinity, that's what Abraham taught and all the prophets after him, in so many places in the Bible Jesus claim that he is nothing without God and he can't do nothing on his own and he always used to pray to God alone in a hidden place where nobody sees him, the writers of the Bible are anonymous and there was a lot of verses thrown out from the Bible through Time as fabrication by Bible scholars. And specifically the Trinity verses. God is the only one.. this is not a Greek mythology where you have so many gods. Jesus never said I'm God but so many times he said I'm nothing without God, and if he is God and he came here to save us and pay for your tab why did he say at the end "God why have you forsaken me" so he's god and he doesn't know what the plan is??!!.. or he got confused or what??!
@@sdinvincible9451, the Trinity is Monotheism, so you don’t understand that, but you dismissed scriptures out of hand which refute what you said, so there is nothing more to say.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 now you r going to go down that route trying to explain to me that three equals one, and it's going to be so hard for you to explain it, at the end you will say it's hard to explain because it's divine,.. Trinity is not monotheism brother, I've been studying abrahamic religions for a while.. and been talking to scholars all over the world cuz I was seriously curious, and I found out that the truth is the Bible have been manipulated a lot by people when the church was the government and the devil used those people to make you worship a man instead of God which is the only thing that God does not forgive is to worship something else but him, and also he made you think that somebody else is paying for your sins and that what made a lot of Christians careless about religion because they think that Jesus already died for their sins and they are doing whatever they want. Jesus is a mighty prophet from God he never claimed divinity, go look at all the verses that they say he claimed Divinity in and you will find it's a foggy words that can have a lot of different meanings but when you look at the verses that he deny his divinity is clear words., And I was serious about my question that I want to know why he said that sentence on the cross if you can explain it to me (God why have you forsaken me) why he said that?!?
o a Christian.. Q: Who is God? A: Jesus Q: Is Jesus the son of Mary? A: Yes. Q: Who created Mary? A: God Q: Who is God? A: Jesus Q: Is Jesus a born son? A: Yes. Q: Who is his father? A: God Q: Who is God? A: Jesus Q: Is Jesus the servant of God? A: Yes. Q: Did Jesus die on the cross? A: Yes. Q: And for whom did he go up? A: To God Q: Is Jesus a messenger? A: Yes. Q: Who sent him? A: God Q: Who is God? A: Jesus Q: Was Jesus pray when he was alive? A: Yes. Q: Who was he praying for? A: For God Q: Who is God? A: Jesus Q: Does God have a beginning? A: No Q: So who was born on December 25th? A: Jesus Q: Who is God? A: Jesus Q: Where is God? A: In Heaven Q: How many Gods are there in Heaven? A: God is only one. Q: Where is Jesus sitting? A: He is sitting on the right of God. Q: So how many Gods are there in Heaven? A: Only one God Q: Where is Jesus? A: He is sitting to the right of God. Q: So how many gods are there in Heaven? A: Only one god. Q: So how many seated gods are there? A: Only one God. Q: Where is Jesus? A: He is sitting next to the Lord. Q: Are they sitting on the same chair? A: These words are understood only by the one who has the Holy Spirit
Very good Christianity's abstract You can add according to this video Q : is Jesus inferior to God A : Yes, but they are Equals because they are the same one
And a solid counterpoint would be to ask the Muslim if the Quran is greater than Allah. Since the Quran is eternal and uncreated, just like Allah, you have a dilemma. Either the Quran is a separate God since it shares exclusive traits of deity, or like the doctrine of the Trinity there can be distinction within the same essence.
The quran is Allah's literal words... All of the attributes of Allah, may He be exalted, are uncreated; they are eternal, with no beginning. The words of Allah are among these attributes, and that includes the Qur’an. Therefore the scholars said that the Qur’an is not created, because it is the words of Allah, and that is one of His attributes
@@kjvacp what does this even have to do with the quran being created or not? And yes we do believe that the real torah, psalms and the real gospel of Jesus are also the uncreated words of God so what?
Jesus isn’t a separate god. There is only one God. Jesus is God’s word made flesh, so he is a part of God. It would be like if my arm was cut off; that’s my arm laying there, it is a part of me, but I am greater than my arm.
When you reach Revelation 5 then you'll realize that God Almighty came down in form of man to die for our sins. The lamb is worshipped at the center of the throne. The Lord God is one and He is Almighty !
@Joaquin Marti The same way satan cannot redeem himself is the same way man cannot redeem himself. You will not make your way to heaven without accepting the redemptive plan of God over your life. Christ redeemed you on the cross but if ignore that, hellfire awaits you! The prophet of YAHWEH has said judgement of God is coming to USA including the white house. If that happens, know, remember this post and return to Christ for redemption!
in fact, you are not the first person to argue with me here. The other guys saw sense and stopped because Islam is a religion of satan to deceive people to die without redemption.
@Joaquin Marti you sir are not saved because you practice the old testament law for Salvation. The new testament teaches the law was replaced with grace by jesus.we don't sacrifice animals because he fullfiled it.we don't tithe because we he replaced it with offering. We don't call a building the church because the doctrine for church is people only not a temple or building and to call one that is sin. You are right every denomination is wrong because they all teach tithing and the church can be both building and people, this is why the father says let us worship in spirit and truth. So the church can only be the people. If you obtain salvation any other way then grace only then your not saved.....
Sir ... You are clearly wrong. They are not the same person. This will clearly sum it up for you and hopefully you will look closely at this scripture concerning the end and who will rule over us all. 1 cor 15:24 and down.. Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. .l??l For "God has put all things in subjection under his feet."I But when it says, "all things are put inl subiection," it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under aim When all things a :Rdilillq tqeltol him, then the Son himself will also bel subjected to him who put all things inl ;ubjection under him, that God may be all in all.H
To REALLY understand what Yehoshua/Jesus was saying, you must first understand the language of Hebrew that these words were spoken. The word used there for Father in Hebrew is Ab and it means (the strength of the house., also the bud or the shoot) The word for greater in Hebrew is gadol and it means ( first, ancient , significant , original, large, powerful,)etc. and that word for the phrase " than I " is mimeni and it means (from, by reason of or out of me.) Thus Yehoshua is saying that "The Original Power source is by reason of me" or " by reason of me, the budding, the growth will be significant" Yehoshua is expressing that through His crucifixion that It will generate a powerful, significant growth, or budding in The Kingdom. Thus , when Yehoshua says in that same verse " I go to the Father, in Hebrew He is saying " I go to empower the budding, the growth of The Kingdom. Because every time a person is born again according to Acts 2:38 then The Kingdom of G-D is expanded. Yehoshua was talking about His dieing when He said " I go away" He was telling the disciples that He MUST die so that He can bring us back to life. For in Adam we all died, But in Christ we are all made alive again. You all will find that Hebrew is like a multidimensional language. English is a very crude language only invented around the 1300's and it has 26 letters that don't mean anything but a sound. Whereas Hebrew has 22 letters and EACH LETTER consist of multiple meaning. This is why it seem in English that Yehoshua/ Jesus is referring to another entity, But in Reality the original Hebraic Meaning one can see that He is referring to Himself. I pray I have helped in your understanding. And Remember Acts 2:38 is the keys to being Born Again. Not Roman's 10:9 . Because the book of Romans was written to saints, folk who were already born again. It tells you that in that 1st chapter of Roman's. But Paul was just encouraging the saints of what to do if you sin after being born again. He says to confess that sin verbally, with your mouth and believe in your heart that Christ's atoning Blood can wash you clean of that stain and thereby saving you. Saving you from what? You're probably asking. Saving you from the wrath of G-D that comes on G-D's children who are disobedience. This is where the Scripture comes in " by Grace are you saved" Because Grace is G-D's unmerited favor to us, when we repent of sin, He "SAVES us from His Wrath. You see Grace saves a repented saint from wrath, but being born again according to Acts 2:38 saves us from eternal damnation, Also being born again according to Acts2:38 and John 3:5 gives us entrance into The Kingdom of G-D.
Everything you have said is true...it saddens me that you see Christ, our brother in the congregation, yet set the distance He closed by coming to us in that you write 'G-D'...We are made holy in Christ, say his name as found in Exodus 6:3 and let your Father love you. I will pray for you.
@King Amen-Tut-Ankh your religion has your mind twisted , Jesus is not ra or none of your gods , He is the Creator of all things , and all things are His , Amen Jesus is the Truth and the Eternal life Amen
Dennis King: In the Original Hebrew language Exodus 6:3 was written in is YHVH. There were no letter "J" until about 1500 AD. And the letter "J" still does not exist in the Hebrew language okay. And it would have been nice to ask why I write G-D, instead of making an assumption, my friend. You see in Hebrew there are no vowels okay. Also out of Reverence for The Most High I wrote it thus. For there are many entities that folk call gods But there is ONLY ONE TRUE G- D. And His given Name to us as a man is Yehoshua, meaning The Power of G- D unto Salvation
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At the end Jesus says " now Father give me the glory that I had with you before the world existed"
@lary Snw i hope you are serious because you just mad3 yourself a fool
@@greenlandabuji7263
Gospel of John 17:22
“I have given them the glory you gave me, so they may be one as we are one.”
Jesus gave his glory to his disciples so they can be one with God like him.
How many Gods is that ??
The sayings by Christ, extracted from the Gospel according to John, are, beside being in their full form extraordinarily repetitive and even laborious, are no more than hearsay. If it was ever offered as eye-witness testimony then its validity falls upon barren ground.
@Master Oflife what happened before the world existed?
@@EdenWithUs Read my comment. Jesus is one with his disciples too.
As a Christian, I believe this to be a very good question and answer. Even some Christians may have had that type of question but was hesitant to ask.
This is clear proof that the father is God of Jesus
Correct
Here is the Simple answer
You can read the mention 2 bible verses ,the 2nd Bible Verse gives the answer to the First bible verse mention below.
John14:28 we see that Jesus said My Father is greater than I.
Philippian2:6 talks about Jesus being God but he didn't consider equality with God he took a humble position as a human while he is on Earth
If Jesus and the Father are different and both are Gods, then Christians worship multiple gods, or they are not good at simple math.
@@bkhan1741 because his father/creator/god is greater than him.... He also said the following with quran backing it:
Matthew 4:109
10 Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written:
‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’[a
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Qur'an 20:14
"I am God; there is no other god beside Me.
You shall worship Me alone, and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) to remember Me.
Quran 51:56
I did not create the jinns and the humans except to worship Me alone.
quran maedah 5:116
And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say,
“O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?”
He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say?
If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it.
You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You.
Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.
quran maedah 5:117
I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say:
“Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!”
And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them.
But when You took me,1 You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.
It would be very wonderful if anyone who reads this would please pray for my mom. She had thyroid surgury recently. And lately shes been depressed. Having thoughhs of killing herself. She doesnt wanna turn to Jesus. Please pray she changes her mind ! Please please please help her !!
Don't worry God loves everyone even who hate him that is the special love of Lord Jesus Christ every thing will be alright in his presence I wish you should live happy with your mom I also pray for your mom's operation
Child Of the Most High God . What she prayed to jesus and it didn’t help? How would you look at it then ? What if she didn’t pray to jesus and she made it through? How would you look at it?
It seems you want to believe so hard that no matter what happens god is great. I’m not religious by any means and I hope your mom will be ok. I lost my mom almost 2 years ago and it is painful. But I think putting faith into something that could never have a negative outcome is not a good way to live (because undesirable outcomes are never gods fault). If it is gods will then no matter how much you pray or ask for prayers, will not affect her outcome.
Bible says it rains on the just as well as the unjust. God's grace and mercy is extended to all. I pray that your mom will allow the love of God to enter her heart and that she will have peace of mind.
That’s the thing I can’t hate something I don’t believe in. I don’t hate leprechauns or unicorns because they don’t exist. I don’t hate the devil because he don’t exist. I don’t hate god because he don’t exist. This was the point I was trying to make, no matter what happens to his mom god will either be great (if she heals) or god wanted her in heaven (if she doesn’t make it). Seems like this god can do no wrong, no matter the heart ache he puts on peoples hearts. Seems a little silly to me, but I’m just using the brain this so called god gave me.
I'm praying
Yes AGREED. In his incarnation in FLESH, Jesus LOWERED himself to the status of a SERVANT. But in his very NATURE, he is DEITY. "Being in very nature God... he made himself nothing, by taking on the nature of a servant" (Philippians 2:8,7). "In Christ, all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form" (Colossians 2:9).
perfectly recapped. ty
@@arnaldonyc Thanks :-)
@demigodzilla
I see no contradiction
@demigodzilla
Or you can simply cite a single contradiction in context and spare me your emotional panic
Where in the Bible did he say he lowered himself to a servant? There’s a reason why he’s called the son of god and not god
A Jehovah’s Witness brought this up to me once, and I replied that she was subordinate to her husband, but they were both still equally human. In the same way, Jesus voluntarily subordinated himself to his Father, but they both remain equally divine.
Jesus is son of god he is not God. Christians Will fail to uderstand this simple fact
@@exioz99, The Jesus of the Bible is Creator God, and there were no gods formed before God nor will there ever be after him, nor is there any other Savior beside him. He is the One True God, so all others are false.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 the name of your god is Jesus. The name of God in the Bible is Jehovah. What else do I need to say open your eyes.
@@exioz99, Jehovah’s Witnesses is a false religious cult because they teach a different Jesus, and many people who escape their control sadly never trust the God of the Bible. I hope you escape and find Jesus.
@@exioz99 Jesus is Jehovah exegeted. So Jesus is God.
I've been following this series of questions from the audience member since the begining, I'd really LOVE to see the Q&A with this guy in is entirety!! He's obviously a smart guy and is asking pretty intelligent questions. Honestly this is the kind of resource that helps me the most when sharing my faith with unbelieving friends!
Jacob Fogg Man these christian speakers use this psychological trick on people. When someone ask a simple question, they give them a very complicated answer such so that the questioner gets tired and confused and doesn’t want to look like a fool for not understanding so they just say ok fine thanks for the answer and doesn’t insist. And to the public the speaker looks “intelligent” but no one really wants to question or doubt him. And the speaker is a professional at it never gives up. Very disappointing.
@Oftin Wong Please then explain why you reject Christianity and what is your belief then? We must first figure where your agenda to criticize comes from and then we can then answer your objections and or points of debate. If you are not willing to debate then why critic something you know nothing about? For instance, one cannot answer a person that accepts, Buddha, Hinduism and Islam or atheism in the same manner that you would be able to present Christ to an agnostic
@Oftin Wong I wasn't implying anything but was wondering on how to approach someone who dogmas a hate for something so callously. However I see your mind is made up and filled with hate so I will just move along as I couldn't possibly be the one who moves or opens a closed heart. So educated but understands nothing is a fool. Proverbs 18:2" A fool takes no pleasure in understanding. but expressing his opinion. Proverbs 26:9 "If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, there is no quiet. proverbs 28:26 "Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom (of the Lord) will be delivered. Proverbs 1:7 " The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, fools despise wisdom and instruction. Please understand that true Christianity is not a religion but a fellowship among those that have accepted Jesus Christ as the One true Savior of mankind. Until then, you do not understand Christianity or Jesus Christ.
@Oftin Wong If I cannot use the bible or Creation science to explain my opinion then why bother to debate. For a true debate on religion would never put such restrictions on free speech and defense of ones faith. For true Christianity is the Gospel of Christ. I suggest that saying that someone is not wise to defend Christianity shows utter contempt and a disregard for any one who believes. Most of the greatest minds known have believed in Christ or an intelligent designer to this world. Only Christianity explains a loving and a forgiving creator. Only Christianity explains that character in a GOD. My simple question is often used and thus greatly borrowed from Frank Turek himself; "would you accept Christianity if it was proven true? I do suggest that you please refrain from mocking others belief though. It will bring out a defense. Especially here at Cross Examined.
@Oftin Wong Do not cast pearls before swine. Meaning why waste my time with value with someone who would not appreciate it were they to share in it. It's not a sin to walk away from a argument with a close minded fools as I choose not to waste my time with the failed logic of self righteous people who judge others before they get to understand where their point is coming from. After all I gave you Bible verses earlier to prove my point in debating a brick wall. You never did answer my question though. "Would you accept Jesus Christ if He was to be proven to be the Truth, the Way, and the Life?" If you choose not to answer the question then feel free to remark in anyway you wish. For I will not answer you back until you answer my question. You didn't when any debate or prove a point. You did however show me just where some people stand on intellectual debate of Christianity and or Jesus Christ now! Now I know why free speech and practice of ones religion is being silenced in higher education places of learning. You can't argue the truth so they just silence it and try to remove it from record.
The son ALWAYS inherit the nature of his parents and because Jesus born of the Holy Spirit and a Human Mother, Jesus is FULLY Divine (Spirit) and FULLY Human (Flesh)
Hahahaha...Mr. Holy Ghost and Miss Marry gives birth to gods son....hahahahahHHHAaaaaaaa
@YJ What about John 10:30
YJ
One in nature and being
@YJ
Why do you quote only those scriptures that support your position while completely ignoring the ones that don't... That's called being disingenuous.
"Flesh" does not dwell in the Heavens. And Jesus was "Born"
a human being...Not a GOD. And Scripture does NOT say he
"INHERITED" a Divine Nature---Scripture says, he was "Given,"
not only the "Holy Spirit,' but, "All Power and Authority."
So, if Jesus is LITERALLY GOD---how do we explain these
things?
Because Jesus Christ in the flesh was limited , he could only be in one geographical place at a time.
Joseph Ndlovu that’s the definition of schizophrenia
Read Colossians 1:14-16. Doesn’t matter God can be in a billion different places but he’s 100% there. God made us in the image of Jesus. We are visual creatures so we need to see our God which is why he created Jesus (Colossians 2:9.) He’s 100% in Jesus and 100% with you even though he’s with other people at the same time.
@YJ They'll find a way around it like they always do, Trinity magic. He prayed to himself, harakiri himself and asked himself why he has forsaken himself. lol
Jesus was not limited in place even when he was in earth as a human !!!
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Jesus says that he (son of man) came down from heaven but also WAS IN HEAVEN !!!
When Jesus said these words he was in earth in flesh...
@YJ Jesus is not God... But the son of God and God gave jesus all authority so being s muslim guess who's gonna judge you jesus christ you will stand before him and without his blood you will go to hell
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
Jesus has mad respect and love for the Father
Because it was his Lord
Here is the Simple answer
You can read the mention 2 bible verses ,the 2nd Bible Verse gives the answer to the First bible verse mention below.
John14:28 we see that Jesus said My Father is greater than I.
Philippian2:6 talks about Jesus being God but he didn't consider equality with God he took a humble position as a human while he is on Earth
Remember,
"but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men." Philippians 2:7
To many it's "but emptied himself..."
What are u trying to say?
@@viviennebaptiste me too try to figure it out
@@viviennebaptiste Jesus became human flesh, of course his Father was greater than him. He was talking about his human nature, and this verse proves this
@@ModerateMic Solomon Wrote Proverbs, and this is before Jesus came to earth.
Proverbs 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?
There was always a Father and a Son, I've been praying and researching, i have been fouding that the "comforter" aka holy spirit, is Jesus Christ in divine Nature, thats why it is called the spirit of truth
"I am the truth, the way and the Life"
And Everything was made Through Christ, and Christ is God, or."The spirit of God"
But he is not the Father, he makes it very clear.
You will see that Proverbs 30:4 refers to The Father and the Son doing all things together, cause nothin was created without Christ, they are "one", the same pattern they call a godly marriage to be, man and wife become "one"
And Jesus compare us with a bride and him being the groom.
We cannot explain it perfectly because Jesus didnt do it for us, but its clear that Jesus is God, but he is not the Father,
They are one and together but not one literal being.
@@magoo3283 I agree!
Don't misinterpret what jesus(p.b.u.h) said by adding your own words and understanding in the bible. And accept the fact that the father is indeed greater than jesus (p.b.u.h). And that his father is our father, and his God is our God. PERIOD
@Salvador Burce Jr. you're so ignorant and yet wanna sort of "*DEBATE*" with me. You should probably go AND NOT JUST READ THE AL-QUR'AN **BUT** ALSO TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT THE WORDS OF GOD. YOU GUYS JUST READ ONE **SINGLE AND PARTICULAR** VERSE FROM ANY SOURATE AND JUST COME TO THE MUSLIMS TO DEBAFE AND ALSO TRY TO DEBUNK THE AL-QUR'AN.
And now the reply to your suggestion is just as simple as blinking the eyelid. The (p.b.u.h) is not something that we muslims or any Muslim, they will tell you the exact answer. But when MUSLIMS ASKS Christians preachers about THE TRINITY SYMBOLISM, if you ask ten(10) DIFFERENT preacher, you will get TEN(10) COMPLETE DIFFERENT ANSWERS ACCORDING TO THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND NOT FROM THE BIBLE, BECAUSE THE TRINITY ISN'T MENTIONED ANY WHERE IN THE BIBLE❗❗❗
OK NOW YOUR REPLY, the word "peace be upon him" isn't something that we muslims as human beings, has APPROVED OF, THOUGHT OF, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF or like WE FELT LIKE WE SHOULD JUST WRITE IT BECAUSE IT SOUNDS GOOD AND DIVINE, but SINCE ALLAH AZZAWAJAL Himself says it in the al-Qur'an AND we were asked to GIVE HIM RESPECT AND ALSO ADDRESS TO HIM, MOHAMUD (S.A.W), IN HUMILITY AND WITH LOVE.
❗❗❗❗❗THE SAME IS FOR JESUS/EESA (P.B,U.H). WE MUSLIMS BELIEVES HE'S ONE OF THE MIGHTIEST PROPHETS, BORN OUT OF MIRACLE WITH NO FATHER. AND WE,MUSLIMS, WE LOVES JESUS/EESA (P.B.U.H) MORE AND MUCH MORE THAN ANY CHRISTIAN DO. AND WE ALSO FOLLOW HIS TEACHINGS, WHICH Y'ALL CHRISTIANS DON'T. BUT ONLY BRAGGED ABOUT THE **"BLOOD OF CHRIST:**⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔HOW FUNNY
Hello listen to what I have to say I was lost to sin and followed the world but at 12 year's of age a few months ago I was saved from the pits of hell by Jesus Christ and now have given my life to him. Accept the gift of God Which is life everlasting after death we humans have done wrong and have sinned and all deserve hell. But God(being Jesus his Son) in his Mercy and Love died on a Cross so that our debt that sends us to Hell may be paid in full because Jesus was Perfect and did no wrong and died and suffered because of his Love. Pray to Jesus to be born again and to be given a new life that serves him alone not yourself or the devil but instead Jesus and ask to be given contrition meaning guilt for all your sin an then ask for forgiveness of your sin from Jesus Christ and repent and start learning more about him and his Father and the Holy Spirit by reading the Bible an praying start reading the new Testament and then the old Testament in the Bible start going to a Church weather it be Orthodox Catholic or Protestant and be Baptized and keep praying to God in truth and Spirit
I've seen many people trying to answer this question with so many zigzags along the way, but this is the most no-nonsense, clear and concise response! Well done!
This was GREAT God Bless
How can a confusion be great? Just asking.
Many times the desciples asked Jesus "show us the father", Jesus said, "If you have seen me, you have seen my father, so why do you say to me show us the father. Don't you know that I and my father are one." Jesus also said that "No man can know whether it is the father speaking at a given moment or when it is the son speaking, except it is revealed to him by God." A perfect example is when Jesus said to Peter, "Flesh and blood has not revealed this to you but the Spirit of my father." Also remember that the Word of God came out from (proceeded or was begotten by) God. Some times I have this thoughts that they are similar in appearance.
We must understand the truth that Jesus is fully God and fully man. He is and will always be eternal God and forever a man.
That was Paul who said not Jesus
@Vindya Fernando first learn about how the Bible was written and who is the author. Jesus time he did went around with the gospel.
@Vindya Fernando
"It was Jesus who says so"
Exactly!
And Paul was directly taught by Jesus Christ, who revealed himself to him, and that's how Paul became OUR Apostle. We get our Doctrine by his letters, and he is our example in this Dispensation of Grace.
@@fsdfmsbcxx I'm confused about what is the difference between apostle and prophet in christianity. Because from my point of view .. basicly you are saying Paul is a christian prophet ?
coz being a prophet or navi (in judaism) means someone who chosen by God to receive His revelation, commandmends and truth to proclaim and teach it to other humans while some being empowered with miracles and powers from God as a prove that he really is from God.
So by that definition .. Paul seems to me fit to be called a christian prophet or a prophet for the gentiles. But some christian seems to hesitate to call him a prophet but majority seems to settle with him being called an apostle.
While studying from his history & actions and how the christian follower's reaction toward his teachings make it obvious to me that he really is a prophet for the christian people especially trinitarian christian.
If that so .. doesnt it a proper thing for the christian to analyze if Paul really a reliable source of revelation from God ?
To determine if he wasnt a false prophet as Jesus warn us about ?
Because from the bible itself we can find that the other of Jesus Disciples doesnt agree with many of Paul's teaching which he claim as a new revelation from Jesus (which is god .. after his ascension).
I think this is an important point to determine ... because many of the main understanding for the christian nowadays are coming or derived for what Paul teach in his letters that then become cannonized gospel of the modren bible .. and all christian claim to believe in the bible as a true revelation and commandments from the God .. and this is definately no joke whatsover .. dont you think ?
The complete verse says:
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Explanation:
why Jesus and disciples should rejoice? Because Jesus having limitations as an incarnate son/man, now going to heaven to become as power as the father. Actually It confirms Jesus divinity rather than humanity, only if we read the context not just the text.
Sounds like Dragon Ball Z.
All Glory to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ that died for us on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead 3 days later Amen
God died ?? God won't die
Why god must die for us ?? Why soo unlogical and yet brutal ?
He is so merciful and accept every repent from us. No need someone to die to get merci from the Almighty.
I think that their scriptures are according to the father plan. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life.
He lowers himself after leaving the throne to become flesh like a man and leaving his throne to his spirit. Like, humble himself with the sameness of man and lower himself, leaving his divine glory compared to all angels in heaven. To be born in the virginity of the mother Mary.
Fully God and fully man. Sinless perfect to achieve salvation, for he had to die, the blood will strike cleansing the sins, and yet almighty with as "redemeer," etc. He died as a human, but not as God, as his throne was still intact in spirit, which is why they believe in the resurrection. He had become a resurrected spirit man. All the powers and creation power given by glory from his Father to him and as equality.
So, he doesn't die again this time but becomes immortal, and as stated, "God can do whatever he wants." Do not limit God's limitations. If he were to be limited< there, he isn't god, or godly things even though the plan thinks of ungodly things of god wouldn't count as "God" to them. @@diponegoro9
I think that their scriptures are according to the father plan. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life.
He lowers himself after leaving the throne to become flesh like a man and leaving his throne to his spirit. Like, humble himself with the sameness of man and lower himself, leaving his divine glory compared to all angels in heaven. To be born in the virginity of the mother Mary.
Fully God and fully man. Sinless perfect to achieve salvation, for he had to die, the blood will strike cleansing the sins, and yet almighty with as "redemeer," etc. He died as a human, but not as God, as his throne was still intact in spirit, which is why they believe in the resurrection. He had become a resurrected spirit man. All the powers and creation power given by glory from his Father to him and as equality.
So, he doesn't die again this time but becomes immortal, and as stated, "God can do whatever he wants." Do not limit God's limitations. If he were to be limited< there, he isn't god, or godly things even though the plan thinks of ungodly things of god wouldn't count as "God" to them.@@suhailbagavathi_kavungal8438
Simply amen, and Hallelujah and ALL glory to God!!!
'For our God is a consuming fire.'
Hebrews 12:29 KJV
1 Fire consists of heat, fuel and oxygen.
1 God consists of Father, Son & Spirit
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit [1] and soul [2] and body [3] be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 5:23 KJV
A fire can be put out by water
Your god can be put out by logics
@@sremmlyphe8064
He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
Isaiah 53:3-6 KJV
Who is this?
Really? I thought he was spirit as the Bible says.
@@ridhwaanpietersen9076
Your Hebrews 12.29 says something else I take it?
Sremm Lyphe
Somebody needs to go tell all the people in California to throw some water on those wild fires.
yes great point! Also when i looked up the Greek word and thought about other verses to supply context and not contradict other concepts previously taught and prayed about it I also was shown that the son was lower in location at that point in time for 30 years, temporarily on the created earth while the father was still higher up positionally in the 3rd heaven. And the son lowered himself voluntarily in office, taking on a lower position for 30 years while he humbled and emptied himself of all power amd position of authority as He said he came not to do anything of his own will but only of the father's who sent him as an apostle to do a necesssry mission. He was then made lower than the angels even as other scriptures say. The Father has stayed in the highest position until He transfers all power and all authority over to His Son bc of doing so great a work of perfrction in pure righteousness in becoming poor so that his sinful creatures might become rich after He lived out our duties without a sinlge failure in our place, redeeming all flesh us for 30 years in which we are saved then dying in our places taking away our infinite criminal debts against an infinite and just judge! The father gives over all of His authority and power but then in even more honor and humility he gives it all right back to His father after all things are put under his feet! Actions that messiah did were never fkr himself or because he had to as we do. Everything he did was for us and some of thise things are questioned by those who dont understand this and bring The Most High down to this lowest level of existence, trying to make God like us instead of realizing that God worked hard to make us like Him!
So god punished himself for the sin of mankind. But didn't he knew that man would sin prior of the creation of human beings⁉️ Didn't he knew that Adam and Eve would be tempted and deceived by satan⁉️ You do believe that God is loving, caring, JUST and FORGIVING ❗❗ So, couldn't He just forgive our sins⁉️ instead of "sacrificing his son"(as per Christians theology)❗❗ And where is justice in taking someone's life⁉️ And as Christian claims that "god so loved the world that he gave his only *BEGOTTEN* son". So would a father sacrifice his only son for someone else's sins⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
@Aisosaibi Woghiren do you mean, when a child is born, he/she is born a sinner ⁉️⁉️
@Aisosaibi Woghiren still waiting for an answer ⁉️ btw
Yousuf Joorawon born into sin! If a baby dies during birth that child goes to heaven. That child never sinned you cant sin in the womb.
@@natemartin7296 exactly my point ❗ But Christians don't believe that. They believe otherwise, hence the baptism ceremony ❗ IDK if you're a Christian but they believe that only after the baby is baptize that he's free of worldly sin " in the blood of christ"⁉️⁉️
Message soothed my soul man God bless
Who’s greater the Word or he who speaks the Word!!
Plasms 83:18) Jehovah is the Most High. (King james Bible)
(luke 1:32) Calls Jesus the Son of the Most High. Jesus is Jehovah's Son
(John 17:3) Eternal(Everlasting ) Life. Have to know them both.Amen
God is beyond human nature God is neither solid nor liquid neither gas
God has an image of a human being but has not been human..this makes God greatest..God is almighty( no beginning..no end).
Both
Jesus says worship not Me but the Father Who is in heaven.....God created EVERYTHING
Amen! Jesus is God!!! ☺
@King Amen-Tut-Ankh prove it?
@King Amen-Tut-Ankh sorry for my idiotic statement. .I read your 1st post nicely now. .and I agree with you. ..but give me your explanation?
@Dan M that did not come from a scripture in the Bible and if it doesn't come from the Bible it's not worth my time. Sola scriptura. The word of God is sufficient to explain our faith. There is no "mother" that we pray to or "mother" that saves us. We are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul clearly taught justification by faith in Christ. It is in the name of Jesus that we find salvation and forgiveness and healing and hope for our soul.
Ephesians 2:8,9
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
Best explanation I never heard 😲
So good, and so simple! 😁
Thank you,
WHAT?????????? Best evasion of explaining it seems.
No one can be greater than another and both be one and the same. Not logical. Neither scriptural.
@@tongakhan230 you understand God's logic? 😳🤯
Is Jesus in submission to God the father in His divine nature?
@@jimenaarayaa.7711 : Jesus is certainly submissive to his God and creator even in heaven.
After Jesus restores paradise for this earth and brings humans back to a perfect state, Jesus HANDS OVER the rule of this earth to his God, Jehovah. Then Jesus, now a mighty angel, will, along with ALL CREATION come under God's guardianship.
1 Corinthians 15:24 Next, the end, when HE HANDS OVER THE KINGDOM TO HIS GOD AND FATHER, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king UNTIL God has put all enemies under his feet. 26 And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing. 27 For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this DOES NOT INCLUDE the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then THE SON HIMSELF WILL ALSO SUBJECT HIMSELF to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be ALL THINGS TO EVERYONE.
I CAPITALIZED words to help.
@@jimenaarayaa.7711 I'm not the biggest fan of endless theological speculations. Can a simple 'yes' satisfy you?
Short, sweet, and to the point. Thanks Frank
To the point of stupidity of human minds
@@kashumable to your point I guess
Trinitarianism requires such philosophical gymnastics. “Lesser in terms of office”? Maybe Jesus just meant exactly what he said.
Yep, He said that He is YHWH and the Son of God, the Jews understand His words - John 10:30,33.......
In the O.T. God WALKS on the Earth, guess WHO is HE....... (YESHUA/the WORD of course)
WHO was "the Stranger" on the road in Joshua 5:13-15???? (JESUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS..........)
Jesus Almighty bless you!
Shalom.
so God also has an office!!!
Exactly, Geoff Nelson. Sometimes taking the Word of God for exactly what it says is much easier than trying to make it fit with our "mysterious" theology.
Exactly. I like your phrase, “philosophical gymnastics.”
He meant it just as he stated. The world will know this truth soon. All who degraded my Father will suffer the repercussions of their actions. And Jesus on that day will say, "Away from me evil doers, I do not know you!"
My Father is God and Jesus is my brother. We were created by our Father and we are his most treasured sons because we treasure our Father. There are more of us around than people know, but we prepare the world for the return of our Messiah, so he may ready the world for the coming of our Father's Kingdom. All are lesser than God and his power unmatched. Jesus fears God, as do I because we know his truth.
My doubts were clear as well praise be to god
“Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.”
Philippians 2:5-8 NKJV
Consider and meditate on this.
It actually says from Greek translation that even though he existed in God's form, or spirit, he did not consider equality something to be grasped. So many bibles twist the words of that scripture to follow a narrative. Translation other than version is generally the way to study.
Brings to mind of one spirit that did consider or desire equality with God. Give u one guess
Mr Nice Guy
Spiritually speaking, Jesus has the same divine nature as the father. He existed before the beginning of time with the father. So, from that standpoint, he is God. Only thing close to explain it is, human beings have the same nature as their parents, but ARE NOT equal to them in many ways (authority, position, etc).
@@motofreeman6424
Thank you. This is true.
Andy T
Yes, that’s absolutely right. When Jesus came, He came as a servant.
@@mrniceguy3006 can I suggest some other script to meditate on Heb.1 and pay close attention to vs3 and then before you get hung up on vs8 read vs9 and reference 1Cor.8:5,6 and let me know what you think.
“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.”
That’s perfectly explained spot on ✝️
And when Jesus tells us that we can do greater things than he has shown, he's trying to let us know that we all have a divine nature, he's just more in tune with his then we are with ours. I'm glad to hear that he didn't say that Jesus Christ and God the Father were one in the same being. Jesus never said such a thing nor did he ever imply such a thing.
Not exactly what he meant, yes we all as believer in him Have been given the Spirit which creates a new nature, but we are not perfected nor has the totality of being divine in position and office the same as him. He is Lord and High priest and all things were made through him and for him, he is Aleph and the Tav! The greater works are not superior to the one who gives in us to work his works or supersede his ability and supply of the Spirit. For in Christ had the Spirit without measure! What is intended in the saying;" greater works ye shall do than these" is in the scope of numbers. Ultimately it is the Father who draws men to Christ and the gospel through the Spirit brings conversion by the blood and word!
Simple answer. Jesus is not the Father because even Jesus makes the distinction but He did say Him and the Father are ONE and that ALL authority has been given to Him by the Father. Also all the attributes that was given to God was also given to Jesus for example Jesus can forgive sins, He is to be worshipped, He is the creator of things. He sits on His throne to rule. So yes we humans try and understand the Godhead which is a spiritual thing with the limits of a physics based understanding.
14:8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? (Shalom)
Not an exact quote, but this is what I typed down real quick:
>> Greater in office, not in essence. My earthly father is greater than me because he’s my father, but we’re equally human beings.
Jesus had a lesser office in His human nature than the Father in His divine nature.
In His human nature here, the Father is greater than Him, but He still has a divine nature as well. Jesus has a divine nature and human nature.
The eyes are not blind but the heart.
I think its also important to understand that symbolically the father represents the divine and Jesus the flesh. So in other words we should remember to submit our fleshy nature to our divine. Just simplifying the teaching.
Life is a question and Islam is the answer. We love and respect Jesus.
In office not in essence? That is an utterly ridiculous answer.
God honors his word like him self but the word comesfrom God's mouth.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,...
John 1:1, 14 KJV
And the word Jesus was with Jehovah. John 1: 1,2... Women are in union with men, men are in union with Jesus and Jesus is in union with our Father who is in heaven. 1 Corinthians 11:3 But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is.. God. John 17: 21 Jesus said: so that they may ALL BE ONE, just as YOU, Father, are in union with ME and I am in union with YOU, that they also may be in union with US, so that the world may believe that YOU SENT ME. 22 I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as WE ARE ONE.
- Our Father who is in heaven YHWH Jehovah love the world so much, that he sent his only begotten son Jesus.
@m kablan It is written in John 1:2.. and John 1:18 said that Jesus the only begotten god is at the father side and explain who the father is at the same time in Matthew 11:27 Jesus said he reveals who the father is to any one he wants. Jesus obey the first commandment to love God with all heart John 14:31
@m kablan be·get
/bəˈɡet/
past participle: begotten
1.
(typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction.
@m kablan Revelation 3:14 said that Jesus the amén is beginning of the creation by God, Jesus is the firstborn of all creation Colossians 1:15
@m kablan how difficult is to understand that God created us and we are his sons and Jesus is the firstborn,
Jesus 100% God 100% Man
Man is God this is why the kingdom of heaven is within we are all gods
@Angel de Salvador according to what you said that would make him Limited
@Angel de Salvador there are exactly ZERO places in the Bible that say Jesus was first an angel. Some cult leaders made that up.
@@SheikhN-bible-syndrome if man is God and the kingdom of heaven is within, then you have also made God limited.
So God died?
Just came here to say that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life!
The Father is always greater, because is The Father who makes ALL decisions, even The Son of God, taught his disciples to pray; "our heveanly Father...thy will be done".
Paul Garduno . What about single mothers?
@@keepingitreal7135 We are talking about the Heveanly Father. plus there's no such thing as a real "single mother ", cause women NEVER get pregnant without the contribution of a man.
Paul Garduno . Exactly, now what about Mary? Didn’t she get pregnant without a mans contribution.
@@keepingitreal7135 Don't forget that it was The Holy Spirit Who made it possible for Mary to conceive.
Paul Garduno . I keep forgetting that when dealing with the bible all practical and logical things are dismissed. Sorry I forgot about this magical spirit. I wonder when jesus comes down again, will it be another mysterious magical impregnating or will it be through what all of human kind has ever witnessed.....through natural sexual acts.
Great answer!
Eli eli lama sabachtani my my lord why have you forsaken me this is enough to establish the power of Jesus peace be upon him
That was a really great answer Frank
If Jesus wants to say Father is greater than everybody, he wouldn't say Father is greater than I am, but rather Father is greater than us all
Is Jesus in submission to God the father in His divine nature?
Simple answer. Jesus is not the Father because even Jesus makes the distinction but He did say Him and the Father are ONE and that ALL authority has been given to Him by the Father. Also all the attributes that was given to God was also given to Jesus for example Jesus can forgive sins, He is to be worshiped, He is the creator of things. He sits on His throne to rule. So yes we humans try and understand the Godhead which is a spiritual thing with the limits of a physics based understanding.
14:8 Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? (Shalom)
I love it when one like this guy say well this is what Jesus meant .Hey Jesus don't worry I'll tell every one what you meant WOW
Now he is saying his own words in to jesus PBUH mouth
Good one ☝️
@Robbie Stones U are misunderstanding me. I meant the man is saying that, not jesus. When u read the bible, it doesn't say that Jesus is coequal to God or he is God. ref: Act 2:22, John 5:30. and many more.
even Jesus is in his divine nature as God, the Father is still greater than him.
Even without the flesh, the Father is still greater than Jesus in their God head state. What makes the Father greater than Jesus even when they are both God? It's because Jesus is the Son. And the Son is not greater than his Father. He was already the Son of God even before he was brought to the earth. Hebrew 1:5. And when they were creating the world, the Son is already with the Father. Proverbs 8:27
@JDM So who is greater now between Jesus and the Father as God?
@Daddy Pound God mentioned his son in the old testament. Proverbs 30:4.. read.
@Daddy Pound @Daddy Pound And the messiah cant be anyone, but to Jesus alone. Hebrew 10:5 says When Jesus entered the world, God had prepared for him a body. So it cant be anyone because that body was prepared by the Father for the Son alone.
@Daddy Pound Jesus does he's Fathers will so that makes him the same. They are one. Amen
Thank you CE
Because Jesus was in flesh, and flesh is lower than Spirit.
Hebrews 2:9 -- "But we see Jesus, Who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that He by the grace of God should taste death for every man."
The flesh is lower than the angels.
Paul goes into a little more detail below:
Philippians 2:5-11 -- "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God, but _made Himself of no reputation,_ and took upon Him _the form of a servant,_ and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, *He humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death,* even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a Name which is above every name: That at the Name of JESUS _every knee should bow,_ of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is LORD, to the glory of God the Father."
1 Timothy 3:16 -- "And without controversy _great is the mystery_ of godliness: *God was manifest in the flesh,* justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
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Because of His Love for us, He *chose* to humble Himself and enter flesh, which is inferior to Spirit, just so He could sacrifice Himself for us, to save us. Jesus is not in a lower form of Deity in any way though. Note the "great is the *MYSTERY* of godliness" ? God has more than One Form and can do multiple tasks at once! :) This is a *mystery* to our minds because we're only flesh and blood, and cannot be multiple forms at once.
forms? is this any different than "modalism"? - or as the Pentecostals call it "oneness"?
Well said
@@James-li8cm almost all denominations preaches false doctrines regarding Christ .
However the truth is found in Christ himself.
@@renitv I also find it interesting how people respond when politely pointing out such inconsistencies... Lately, I have been considering the statement: "the holy spirit will guide you into all truth"... (this changes my perspective on so many things) Interestingly, I don't see anywhere in scripture where it states: "your pastor(/denominational council) will guide you into all truth"... but yet... look at how we behave?
Amen! You picked the perfect scriptures
Jesus was also speaking as a man. The Jewish Messiah has to speak like that. Philippians 2:6-8, John 1, Colossians 1:15 all affirm the deity of Christ.
Agreed Alex. In his incarnation, Jesus took upon himself, a genuine human nature. And he often spoke from THAT perspective.
Alex Obando just remember
Jesus Christ Holy
J C H
John 1 Colossians 1 Hebrews 1
@@hjc1402 Amen! Jesus is YHWH (Lord)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@vijdamvsichko9077 Wrong!
Just remember this. Jesus laid everything to become human just for us. When Jesus spoke of the Father is greater than him, the Father is the only true God, only God is good, etc, etc... Jesus needed us to understand who he is by glorifying the Father. When we call upon Father God, we are exactly calling upon Jesus as the Son God (Son of God) as well.
awesome reply.
He didn't address "My father is greater than all" which would include the son of God in both natures.
My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”
John 10:29-30 NKJV
"I and My father are one"
Thanks a lot Frank I have been asked this and didn't know how to respond but now do.
Wrong answer he gave. Trinity is not a biblical teaching
The father is greater than jesus
Jesus never claimed to be equal or claimed to be almighty God
@@AstariahJW, Jesus was killed for making himself equal to God. This was obvious to first century Jews but is not to you.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 the Jews accused jesus of claiming to be equal but jesus faught back that charge . That's the problem with trinitarians and false teachers . They only focus on what Jews said cause they assume Jews were right
They dont listen to jesus words just like the Jews of jesus day
What Jews charged jesus with were wrong . They were finding fault with jesus and wanted him dead
@@AstariahJW, you're making false generalizations based on a whole lot of baggage, so I'm done here.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 read what jesus said in reply to the charge had on jesus
Especially when they said calling God your own father making himself equal to God
Calling God your father is claiming equal? Seriously?
This is why jesus told them your father is the devil you do not listen to my voice
😂😂😂what an amazing question and this pastor just give his own understanding but that explanation is no where to be found in the Bible 🤔🤔
I agree! The answer should be in a place where it can be proven.
No, it doesn't need to be like that. Even the Bible was created, logic already exists and Frank uses logic here.
Plus, it is obvious that Jesus has a human nature so it is natural for Him to say that His Father is greater than Him.
@@mathmadeeasyph2633 but he is 100%god and 100% human in your opinion...
Is he godless ? Or is he part of god ?
@@neolalova he is like that. My point is that Frank uses logic
Good answer
Probably the best answer for these.
What if Jesus meant everything he said
“Im going to my father and your father, my God and your God”
Yes, while on earth, the Father was his God. This is the Trinity.
@Daddy Pound Rom 1:20 tells us that creation testifies of who God is. So yes I can compare God to Man who was created in God's image after God's likeness.
@Daddy Pound
The trinity is not real! Jesus was God's only direct creation, everyone and everything was created with the help of Jesus. That's why the bible names him the master builder. Proverbs 8: 30
@Daddy Pound "yet nothing in creation can be observed to explain how a trinity can exist of 3 persons in one. "
Oh ya?
Creation is Time, Space and Matter.
Time= Past, Present and Future.
John 1:1 In the beginning was Past and Past was with Time and Past is Time."
Space = Hight, Width and Depth.
John 1:1 In the beginning was Hight and Hight was with Space and Hight is Space"
Matter= Solid, Liquid and Gas...
Creation=John 1:1 "In the beginning was Matter and Matter was with Creation and Matter is Creation.
You were saying?...
Daddy Pound car boat motorcycle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 they used to say the ice water thing
Pastor sure didn’t look convinced himself with that mumble jumble, don’t blame him really.
So what are you then?
@Faisal Siraj oh sorry that question was for Truth be Told ;)
@Faisal Siraj no i didn't. So what's the bottom line sir? I don't read lengthy explanations
@Faisal Siraj wait... Whats my position? Ahaha... 😅 chill bro ;)
@Faisal Siraj You won't be able to fathom the mystery of godliness by yourself unless Jesus through the Holy Spirit reveals it to you. That's why Muslims and other unbelievers find it difficult to grasp the trinity when in fact it's easy for Christians to understand. I don't think God will be worth it of our worship if we could describe him by our own intellect.
Matthew 11:27
All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
Those are not words of just a mere prophet.
Jesus taught us how to worship God so when he said that he humbly was letting us know that the father is greater than us all.
what about when he said the only true god is the father
I believe this is the SPEAKERS interpretation!
You heard Me Tell you, ‘I am going away, and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved Me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the father, for the Father is greater than I.
He (Jesus) is going BACK to the Father...
Back, meaning previous place which to me implies he may have always existed as the son of God.
John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
To go back to the Father means he (Father) was always greater than Jesus in terms of authority!
I do believe The Father=God and He is greater than Jesus. However, I do believe without Jesus nothing is possible! The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit all have roles and work together for the good of everything. But this is my belief. Please pray and ask that the father reveals things for you and me as well. God bless you all.
I agree with your interpretation. Three distinct individuals with one purpose.
Let Us make man, in Our image Genesis 1:26. Also a text unclear to me that maybe is in line with your interpertation
@@Bazakilouis something I've considered recently is the reference to "our image". Since clearly we are both female and male, does this reference suggest God has a female counterpart, a Godess?
@@Bazakilouis An image is a physical representarion of the unseen. When God is saying let US. and when He says WE He is talking to himself. The idea and thought exists first before it is spoken. We do the exact same thing. We manifest our thought to ourselves before we act on them. We also speak to ourselves just like our heavenly Father. Also notice that scientists declare that someone that talks to themself has high intelligence and is healthier then someone who doesn't plan their thought and actions and someone that doesn't uplift themselves with their words. Well guess where we get this from? God.
Matt Rector As I grow in my faith I tend go back and often find little gems like this, and also wonder too about them. For me “Our Image” hasn’t been clear until I had revelation that there was more than just the Father present in the beginning.
The Father speaking, The Holy Spirit hovering over the water, and The Son beside the Father for me clears up the “Our” part mention early in Creation.
Scripture to support the Son Of God’s existence before creation.
“Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
John 8:56-58
Here’s it’s saying that Jesus existed way before Abraham
“This truth gives them confidence that they have eternal life, which God-who does not lie-promised them before the world began.”
Titus 1:2 NLT
To have promised eternal life before the world began means to me that Jesus existed in some state, I’m not sure of what form. But to have a savior beforehand seems premeditated and planed. Which is why when he says he returns to the Father makes a lot of sense.
“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”
Genesis 1:26 KJV
Is there any scripture to help support the idea of a Goddess type? I can see your logic behind the thought.
According to Genesis 2:20-23
“And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.”
Genesis 2:20-23
Woman was only created to help Adam and share companionship. From Adam she was created. I believe if there was a Goddess type of being God would’ve created both male and female at the same time. Just my view
I thank any and everyone of you. Much love and respect. Please share your thoughts and pray for me. As I will for you. God Bless
Because spirit is greater than flesh.
right
Youre right blah blah blah blah ..ahahaha 🤣🤣
@@theepicenter4106 better repent. It's not funny being outside the presence of God. Heaven and hell is real.
Your choice.
@@Followwherethetruthleads you didn't notice i was reacting to the commenter's name..ahaha.. Oh my.. 😅
The Father is Greater than All, according to the words of Jesus Christ peace be upon him. That would include the son and the holy spirit. Jesus was a servant of God, a prophet, a messenger and the Messiah. Jesus held himself below God.
Love with this explanation
This one was way too short.
badly answered too
@@Issoirre that's perhaps a bit harsh, but it's true that this is far from his best work. It feels like there's a lot missing.
Did the conversation devolve from there so they chopped it? He's perfectly capable of better answers.
@@ravissary79 You're right, I was overly harsh. This is a tough question and to try and answer it in a couple minutes does not reflect accurately the depth and meaning of this question. I was disappointed both by the answer and the reasoning ( lack of solid reasoning actually) behind it, It felt to me like Frank was scambling to come up with an answer.
@@Issoirre I agree.
Why? Because Jesus is not the Father he’s the son. He comes from the father he is not the father. God gave us an easy example of relationship between father and son so that we can completely understand why make it complecated ? He is the son and he’s also the father? Don’t make sense to me.
God is spirit!!! God was inside Jesus, in the cross, did God die? Nooo!!! The flesh died not the spirit. God is One ☝🏼 God became flesh for 33 years and showed us the way, Isaiah52:6 says that he was going to come to earth Himself. The only Supreme, Strong, and Wonderful God!!!
The Greeen Plant Nobody says Jesus is not God! He is the son of God that make
him also God. If you were born in royal family they dont call you pheasant right? But there is only One god the father the creator of all you are right that he is the only one and no one is above him.But he give us his son it’ his words who become flesh. You worship the son is like you also worship the father because son comes from the father and father give authority to his son. Do you have problem with that? Isaiah 52; 6 didn’t say it’s the father himself come down and speak it say’s that he is the one that do the speaking and Lord Jesus confirming it when he said that he didn’t speak in his own accord but it’s the words of the father.
Great question perfect answer! Amen
That answer did not make any sense in any capacity, devine or otherwise..because your answer discredits/falsify's the trinity.
Jesus is a man 👨
Look so here so Jesus had to obey the father’s commandments. The Father is above Him because He created those commandments
Although Yes they are all God one The Father has a higher Authority than both The Holy Spirit and The Son. They are all equal in who they are but not in what role they play as the trinity
Normal One off one yes He is man and God
@@davidtorres7046 But do they share the same will and objectives? Or their will are seperate?
Office.....I like that
It's good stuff to.ponder, the only difference I would take would be that it was due to Jesus being human.
The Trinity (set aside the incarnation) carries with it certain inherit roles The Father SENT the Son, so he was submissive BEFORE he came flesh, and the Son SENT the Holy Ghost when he left (John 14:16)
So it has nothing to do with Christ becoming man, and more to do with Christ's role in the eternal Godhead.
@@indydrummer101 Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God". This verse says Jesus was equal to God. My wife "sent" me to the grocery store to pick up milk. She is not greater than I am. We are equal in Gods eyes. Here is something interesting regarding the Trinity: Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree". This says God the Father (the God of Abraham) raised Jesus from the dead. John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up:. That verse Jesus is saying He will raise Himself from the dead. Romans 8:11 "But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." This verse is saying the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the Dead. They are all equal, all One God, with no lessors.
Good response. I would add that Jesus is always pointing back to the Father, in a manner that we are to worship God alone, and not the man Jesus of Nazareth. That is why Jesus said "No one is good except God alone."
Actually, no.
"Jesus is Lord"... Who says this?
God is worshipped in nearly every religion out there but that doesn't mean that those worshippers know Jesus. If you want to know Jesus than you better get into a relationship with him, which requires worship of him. Otherwise Jesus himself will say, "depart from me, I never knew you...".
Get to know Jesus. Worship Jesus
I can appreciate and respect what you are saying, but your response to me is out of context with what the young man is asking.
I agree, salvation is by faith alone in Christ alone. But worship of Jesus in a catholic since is wrong. Which circulates back to what I previously stated.
Jesus is not God, God is Jesus. So again, worship God alone. Jesus is my Savior and only hope of salvation, and my conduit and access to the throne of God. We pray to God, LORD, Father, in Jesus Name. We don't pray to Jesus in Jesus Name. Which circulates back to what I previously stated.
Hope that clears it up for you.
Brian Baldridge “Jesus is not God, God is Jesus” that’s a very interesting way to put it, appreciate your insight.
Kreemerz and why did he “prostrate” to Allah?? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@Steve-qr2lm Not really an interesting way. Let's look at it logically. If God is Jesus and God is 3 persons, it follows that Jesus is the 3 persons of the Godhead. But Christians say that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are distinct. It doesn't add up logically.
HE who has EARS, let him hear! There are multiple meanings of God (capital and lowercase), as Jesus told us. John 10:33 - 10:34.
no there is not. Stop complicating the truth. Jesus never once said or insinuated there are multiple meanings of God.What he taught was very simple and straight forward.
Berkes Robert who is according to jesus in john 17:3 the ONLY TRUE god??
Can u show me any verse in bible where jesus himself says that "i m god" or"worship me". Because the first person that should claim that jesus should be worshiped is jesus himself.
And surprisingly no single verse in the complete bible jesus says that "im god" or "me to be worshiped"
@JM Garcia Then why r u christian believing that jesus(peace be upon him) is to be worshipped
@JM Garcia My dear brother. Read ur bible John(4:23), Matthew(7:21-23)
Where can we refer this Trinity's explain in Bible as how this preachers preach? Nowhere to be found in the Bible old n new Bible. So how can the preacher preach about something that is not in the Bible?
Because all religions are man-made. That means: fallible. The later followers must find explanations to correct these flaws
@@lecramred4453 all men made except Islam.
1 John 5:7-8 (KJV):
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
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Original text in Greek :
1 John 5:7-8 :
7 ὅτι τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες {εν τῷ οὐρανῷ ὁ πατήρ ὁ λόγος καὶ τὸ Ἅγιον Πνεῦμα καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι}
8 τὸ Πνεῦμα καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ καὶ τὸ αἷμα καὶ οἱ τρεῖς εἰς τὸ ἕν εἰσιν
@@ekoprasetyo4126 The Textual Problem in 1 John 5:7-8
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“5:7 For there are three that testify, 5:8 the Spirit and the water and the blood, and these three are in agreement.” ‑‑NET Bible
Before τὸ πνεῦμα καὶ τὸ ὕδωρ καὶ τὸ αἷμα, the Textus Receptus reads ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ, ὁ πατήρ, ὁ λόγος, καὶ τὸ ἅγιον πνεῦμα, καὶ οὗτοι οἱ τρεῖς ἕν εἰσι. 5·8 καὶ τρεῖς εἰσιν οἱ μαρτυροῦντες ἐν τῇ γῇ (“in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 5:8 And there are three that testify on earth”). This reading, the infamous Comma Johanneum, has been known in the English-speaking world through the King James translation. However, the evidence-both external and internal-is decidedly against its authenticity. Our discussion will briefly address the external evidence.1
1. Lowered Himself to a fleshly body 2. Demonstrating Respect and Humility
Sounds terrible if I may say so.
The bible clearly states that God's son emptied himself of his spirit form and became human.
Philippians 2:7 No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and BECAME HUMAN,
God SENT his son (Galatians 4:4). Lowering himself sound blasphemous.
Just a thought.
Malachi 3:6 “For I am Jehovah; I DO NOT CHANGE.
When Jesus said his father is greater than him , his was speaking as the son of God and the son man . But remember that's are his attributes in the work of redemption. But remember he was the Elohim (God manifested in human body. Because he said also " I and my father we are one" or my father is in me and I'am in my father" . Here he was speaking as the Elshadai. It means in his attribute of the fatherhood. Jesus is the father is the son and is the holy ghost. "Three manifestation of one God" not three Gods or three in one God. But one God which manifested him self as the father in heaven, as the son on earth and as the holy Ghost in his church.
False. Most of what you said. Convoluting a very simple concept.
Jesus prayed to his Father. Jesus even said at Matthew 6:9, "OUR Father in the heavens....". What about his prayer to his Father before and during his sacrifice? So, are Trinity believers saying that Jesus prayed to himself and answered his own prayers? Oh, one more thing, God loved us so much that he GAVE his only begotten Son. John 3:16, 17. Verse 17 says God SENT his Son. Can you give up your son or send your son somewhere and then call you and son the same person? Now, I do believe that Jesus perfectly reflected his Father and did the will of Yahweh. Therefore, we must follow Jesus and pray to the same Father that Jesus taught his disciples to pray too.
@@TheCoatstar Absolutely true.
@@TheCoatstar Then may i ask .. in your opinion or what you believe who Jesus was or who Jesus is now ? is Jesus The God (as the trinitarian says) or he is a god or is he neither of that ?
What role did Jesus take in his life time ?
what kind of ministry did he convey to the people ?
and last thing what do you think about Paul (Saul) ? who do you think he is ?
Sorry for the many questions :D
They're not meant to push you or anything i just curious in your opinion about this things
Of course Jesus is lesser compared to the Almighty Father. Jesus comes from the Father, Begotten Son means comes from, not created sons of God like angels and man. But Jesus is greater than everything else, other than the Father. But the Father loved him dearly, the world was created through Him (Yeshua the Word of God) and for Him. Yet the world despise Him. Because the Father loved His Begotten Son dearly, He is Given the power to rule and judge all things, and given the title Messiah.
Isaiah 9:6- Jesus is THE EVERLASTING FATHER - The Bible said there is only One Father, One GOD. Jesus also says He is The ALMIGHTY GOD. Amen.
We are commanded to worship THE LORD they GOD, and Him ONLY. Righf? They worshipped Jesus, and HE accepted their worship. Either Jesus sinned, by not correcting them, or He, alone, is worthy of our praise and worship.
@@mikerozman5472 Jesus is the Word of Yahweh, He is also the Begotten Son.
It is not wrong to call Jesus God, because He is the Second Being in Elohim, Yahweh being the First. They both existed since the ancient of times.
16 For God so loved(A) the world that he gave(B) his one and only Son,(C) that whoever believes(D) in him shall not perish but have eternal life.(E)
John 3:16
Some english bible translation is abit off.
Kjv said everlasting father.
Niv said just eternal.
I think we should seek thr hebrew source.
Could you point out Which passage in scripture where Jesus accept people worship Him?
As far as i know, Jesus never glorify Himself, he even teaches us the Lord prayer. But He does say Believe in Him (Messiah), because He is the Gate between us and the Father.
Cheers
@@mikerozman5472 Plasms 83:18) Jehovah is the Most High. (King james Bible)
(luke 1:32) Calls Jesus the Son of the Most High. Jesus is Jehovah's Son
(John 17:3) Eternal(Everlasting ) Life. Have to know them both.Amen
Brilliantly explained Frank.
That was not a good explanation to be honest
John 14:28, RS: “[Jesus said:] If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I.”1 Cor. 11:3, RS: “I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.” (Clearly, then, Christ is not God, and God is of superior rank to Christ. It should be noted that this was written about 55 C.E., some 22 years after Jesus returned to heaven. So the truth here stated applies to the relationship between God and Christ in heaven.)1 Cor. 15:27, 28 RS: “‘God has put all things in subjection under his [Jesus’] feet.’ But when it says, ‘All things are put in subjection under him,’ it is plain that he is excepted who put all things under him. When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things under him, that God may be everything to every one. ”The Hebrew word Shad·daiʹ and the Greek word Pan·to·kraʹtor are both translated “Almighty.” Both original-language words are repeatedly applied to Jehovah, the Father. (Ex. 6:3; Rev. 19:6) Neither expression is ever applied to either the Son or the holy spirit.
Jesus returned to the Father i.e. back to the God form away from the human form. Paul met Him on the road to Damascus. He was dwelling in a blindingly bright light for Scripture says God has clothed Himself with light. Rev 1:8 says Jesus is the Almighty.
@@williamokello1566 its not bright light its a fire...and in the same bible it said that Satan comes in the form of fire...now a question to you, who did Paul really met? Was it really Jesus or Satan?
its clearly what it said Jesus says "my father is greater than i" because Jesus is the God the Son and his father is GOD the father.. Jesus is always been God in human form. the bible said human always have Sin .. Jesus never have Sin thats why he is not human he is GOD.. how evil spirits know Jesus and run when they see Jesus because they know Jesus is God.. common guys the bible is clearly what it said.. like a father speak to his child what you read is clearly what its said. 🥰
The Bible is clear but your understanding isn't.
(John 5:30) I CANNOT DO A SINGLE THING OF MY OWN INITIATIVE. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the WILL OF HIM WHO SENT ME..
(John 13:16) Most truly I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master, NOR IS ONE WHO IS SENT GREATER THAN ONE WHO HAS SENT HIM.
Jesus had no sin because He was a perfect man and that was necessary to atone for the perfect life lost by Adam. I suppose you think Adam and Eve weren't perfect? Or were they Gods too?
See how far off your thinking is?
@@djparsons7363 Jesus is not perfect Man he is Son of GOD thats why he dont Sin.. Jesus talks about the GOD the father who sent Jesus .. why its hard to people except GOD sent JESUS and GOD says "this is my Son who i love" the father is GOD so the SON is also GOD .. is that hard to put in yoir tiny brain.
@@makimak7703 You know nothing about truth so you have nothing of value to say, at least i HAVE a brain.
@@djparsons7363 i know how to read and what it says what i read.. not people who read and decifer the code and tell lies to satisfide there worldly needs
@@makimak7703 Your beliefs ARE lies. You can read Scripture but you don't know what it actually means, so you are believing lies. You say Jesus was without sin because He Is God, but your microscopic brain can't explain Adam and Eve being without sin. I notice you didn't try to come up with some more lies to explain that.
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So Jesus, who you call "GOD," is...LESSER IN OFFICE? How do
you account for that? Why then is the Name Jesus..."ABOVE
ALL NAMES," and yet---a "Lesser Office?" Hmmm.
Lesser office means being in the flesh... He is nonetheless the Most Hight ABBA ELOHIM.
@@Hdlc27 YEH, but GOD isn't, "IN THE FLESH."
GOD is NOT a "Man." GOD is Spirit...He does not change, or
Morph into a man. Jesus, on the other hand, IS a man, who,
according to Scripture, was given, "ALL POWER AND AUTH-
ORITY." How do you explain that, my friend. And if Jesus
is GOD---LITERALLY---then WHY, Why would he have to be giv-
en even the..."Holy Spirit?" (ACT10:38).
Listen, good brother, you can try to manufactuure some
clever, man-made diversion, but---Come ON---If Jesus
Was LITERALLY GOD, he would NOT NEED these SPI-
RITUAL Anointings FROM his...FATHER---Right?
Be blessed. Stay healthy.
Hi. I see many comments of people REJECTING the DIVINITY of CHRIST/YHWH and you are there almost always...
Why you read the O.T. and can NOT see the LORD of the O.T. - Jesus the CHRIST????????
Isaiah 9:6, Hebrews 1:8-10, John 1:1-14, Genesis 1:26, 3:8, 17:3, 19:24, Job 42:5...............
GOD Yeshua (YHWH Jesus) bless you. Shalom.
@@vijdamvsichko9077 My friend, nobody said Jesus is NOT the
"Christ," except the Muslims, and JW's. He IS the Christ---the...
"Only begotten OF THE FATHER." He was given "All Power and
Authority" BY his FATHER. And YES---he possesses "Divinity,"
because be "OBEYED" his FATHER, "Even unto the Cross."
GOD bless. Stay healthy, my friend.
@@vijdamvsichko9077 ...And YES---there are almost 200 Prophecies
in the Old Testament concerning the "Coming of Christ," so---Yes,
Jesus is definitely IN the Old Testament.
Honestly,
It’s says the farther is greater than I and the father is greater than all.
Simple
Doesn’t mean anything other than that.
The farther is the greatest.
He has no equals
Can Christins stop changing the meaning of what issues said.
He did Not say my human form is less than the farther but my spirit form is equal.
The bike clearly points to the farther as one who has no equals.
Jesus was born through marry.
He ate, he slept, he walked, he talked but he didn’t say he was god or worship him.
Jesus didn’t say I’m a prophet don’t worship me
@@z7456 No, but he did call himself a prophet. Mat 11:9, 13:57.
Antichrist Revealed no he said more than prophet
@@z7456 Yeah, but he was also a prophet. A prophet is one that delivers the words of God, and foretells future events. He was indeed _also_ a prophet, just as he called himself.
Antichrist Revealed he doesn’t deliver the word. According to Quran 4:171 he is the word of God
What a definition 🤣🤣🤣🤣today we heard another one ...in office so they got office also 🤣🤣🤣
You could tell who is false teacher, false reader etc. they don’t know the word of God.
@Jesus is Life We don't worship a idol. What stupidity!
I believe in the deity of Christ and the distinction between the Father & the Son but to say, "God the Son" isn't biblical.
Amen
What's the distinction?
Godwin Adjei The Bible does call Jesus; God with us. The scripture also says that Jesus who is the Logos is God and that He was also with God. There is the distinction. The Bible does teach that Jesus is God the Son. John 1 and That’s Biblical. Just as the word Rapture is not in the Bible, are you going to deny that the rapture will not happened, because the word Rapture is not biblical?
@@thereisnopandemic I did say I believe in Christ's deity & the distinction. But Jesus was the eternal Logos before he became the Son of God in his incarnation. He's called Emmanuel because he's God manifested in the flesh and the image of the invisible God. I'd rather use the term 'the Godhead' just like the term 'the catching up' of the saints (1 Thess 4:17) instead of rapture. These terms are biblical.
If you really want to be , Biblical !
you say: "The Son of God ".
Absolute non sense. There is only one divine and that is God. Jesus was human with God given miracles. That's all.
Jesus is the most humble form of God..
Ok Christians, if Jesus died for our sins, then why there is heaven and hell?
Because you have to make a choice of either accepting Him as Lord and Savior so as to go to heaven or reject Him and go to hell
@@kingdomanimalia8554 What about people who never heard of Jesus or his teachings
@@DonkeyKong5479 I'm sure God will deal justly with those people. But what about you. You've heard about Jesus and his teachings.
@@paulbacon5056 You're right I have. But I've also heard of Allah and his teachings, Buddha and his teachings, etc. Of all the religions how can you be so sure that Christianity is the only correct one?
@@DonkeyKong5479 None of the other gods came down from heaven to die for you.
This is great... a belief that requires a guy with notes to ask a guy with diagrams projected on a screen, to explain something that allegedly has been around for 2000 years. And this is the convoluted religion a rational god would intend?
Yeah, you would think that a person could read the Bible, everything would be clear and that would do it. But no.
@@threeofive9401 what about the bible are you having a hard time understanding?
what is your point?
@nde Thierry This is the convoluted religion a rational god would intend?
Jim Callahan Simply because things are deep and have layers to them doesn’t mean there’s no truth to them...
Shakespeare’s writing are often hard to understand, doesn’t mean there’s no truth to it.
Therefore, how much more deepness & Sophistication would there be in theology & it’s scripture that was inspired by a divine being?
Because things may be hard to understand for us, especially removed from its language & historical context, doesn’t mean it’s not true.
Poor Argument
The simple answer is Jesus was a messenger from God, that's why he said I'm going back to the one who sent me, and also he said God why have you forsaken me?!?!? When he was on the cross.
SD invincible, the person of the Son (who is God) is subordinate to the person of the Father (who is also God), so it's proper for each person to refer to the other person as “God”. So, just as the Son refers to the Father as “God” in Matt 27 (quoting Psalm 22), the Father refers to the Son as God and Hebrews 1 (quoting Psalm 45).
@@biblehistoryscience3530 no man he was simply a messenger from God, the Trinity that you struggle to explain is not true, any profit said God is one, monotheism is the way not trinity, that's what Abraham taught and all the prophets after him, in so many places in the Bible Jesus claim that he is nothing without God and he can't do nothing on his own and he always used to pray to God alone in a hidden place where nobody sees him, the writers of the Bible are anonymous and there was a lot of verses thrown out from the Bible through Time as fabrication by Bible scholars. And specifically the Trinity verses.
God is the only one.. this is not a Greek mythology where you have so many gods. Jesus never said I'm God but so many times he said I'm nothing without God, and if he is God and he came here to save us and pay for your tab why did he say at the end "God why have you forsaken me" so he's god and he doesn't know what the plan is??!!.. or he got confused or what??!
@@sdinvincible9451, the Trinity is Monotheism, so you don’t understand that, but you dismissed scriptures out of hand which refute what you said, so there is nothing more to say.
@@biblehistoryscience3530 now you r going to go down that route trying to explain to me that three equals one, and it's going to be so hard for you to explain it, at the end you will say it's hard to explain because it's divine,.. Trinity is not monotheism brother, I've been studying abrahamic religions for a while.. and been talking to scholars all over the world cuz I was seriously curious, and I found out that the truth is the Bible have been manipulated a lot by people when the church was the government and the devil used those people to make you worship a man instead of God which is the only thing that God does not forgive is to worship something else but him, and also he made you think that somebody else is paying for your sins and that what made a lot of Christians careless about religion because they think that Jesus already died for their sins and they are doing whatever they want. Jesus is a mighty prophet from God he never claimed divinity, go look at all the verses that they say he claimed Divinity in and you will find it's a foggy words that can have a lot of different meanings but when you look at the verses that he deny his divinity is clear words., And I was serious about my question that I want to know why he said that sentence on the cross if you can explain it to me (God why have you forsaken me) why he said that?!?
o a Christian..
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
Q: Is Jesus the son of Mary?
A: Yes.
Q: Who created Mary?
A: God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
Q: Is Jesus a born son?
A: Yes.
Q: Who is his father?
A: God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
Q: Is Jesus the servant of God?
A: Yes.
Q: Did Jesus die on the cross?
A: Yes.
Q: And for whom did he go up?
A: To God
Q: Is Jesus a messenger?
A: Yes.
Q: Who sent him?
A: God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
Q: Was Jesus pray when he was alive?
A: Yes.
Q: Who was he praying for?
A: For God
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
Q: Does God have a beginning?
A: No
Q: So who was born on December 25th?
A: Jesus
Q: Who is God?
A: Jesus
Q: Where is God?
A: In Heaven
Q: How many Gods are there in Heaven?
A: God is only one.
Q: Where is Jesus sitting?
A: He is sitting on the right of God.
Q: So how many Gods are there in Heaven?
A: Only one God
Q: Where is Jesus?
A: He is sitting to the right of God.
Q: So how many gods are there in Heaven?
A: Only one god.
Q: So how many seated gods are there?
A: Only one God.
Q: Where is Jesus?
A: He is sitting next to the Lord.
Q: Are they sitting on the same chair?
A: These words are understood only by the one who has the Holy Spirit
...and if you answered all the above truthfully, and without contradiction, you're on another IQ level, not from this planet.
@@yaseenibn-noor9473 read the bible and you have your answer don't need IQ just need holy spirit to guide you.
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Actually you must study the bible, not just read it and then only and hopefully, the Holy Spirit will guide you.
Very good Christianity's abstract
You can add according to this video
Q : is Jesus inferior to God
A : Yes, but they are Equals because they are the same one
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The more I study the Bible the more I move away from it's spirit.
God forgives me
And a solid counterpoint would be to ask the Muslim if the Quran is greater than Allah. Since the Quran is eternal and uncreated, just like Allah, you have a dilemma. Either the Quran is a separate God since it shares exclusive traits of deity, or like the doctrine of the Trinity there can be distinction within the same essence.
of course. Mohammed and Allah both commit shirk by honoring the Quran as eternal and uncreated. I guess Allah is in hell for eternity. Lol
The quran is Allah's literal words... All of the attributes of Allah, may He be exalted, are uncreated; they are eternal, with no beginning. The words of Allah are among these attributes, and that includes the Qur’an. Therefore the scholars said that the Qur’an is not created, because it is the words of Allah, and that is one of His attributes
@@that_eldian_kid k well, the Quran says the Bible is the word of God, so if the Quran is true then the Quran is false.
counter point to what?
@@kjvacp what does this even have to do with the quran being created or not? And yes we do believe that the real torah, psalms and the real gospel of Jesus are also the uncreated words of God so what?
Because of his humility
Frank is cool!
Frank is deceived and WRONG
Jesus never said he is a human nature
Jesus son of Mary
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Nor did he ever say that he is divine nature. Did he? Where????????
These are statements of confirmation bias.
Jesus isn’t a separate god. There is only one God. Jesus is God’s word made flesh, so he is a part of God. It would be like if my arm was cut off; that’s my arm laying there, it is a part of me, but I am greater than my arm.
When you reach Revelation 5 then you'll realize that God Almighty came down in form of man to die for our sins. The lamb is worshipped at the center of the throne. The Lord God is one and He is Almighty !
God almighty..he himself will forgive.
God change in form of man?lastly god got killed by his creation?is this logic?relax ur mind and think 😊
@Joaquin Marti The same way satan cannot redeem himself is the same way man cannot redeem himself. You will not make your way to heaven without accepting the redemptive plan of God over your life. Christ redeemed you on the cross but if ignore that, hellfire awaits you! The prophet of YAHWEH has said judgement of God is coming to USA including the white house. If that happens, know, remember this post and return to Christ for redemption!
in fact, you are not the first person to argue with me here. The other guys saw sense and stopped because Islam is a religion of satan to deceive people to die without redemption.
@Joaquin Marti you sir are not saved because you practice the old testament law for Salvation. The new testament teaches the law was replaced with grace by jesus.we don't sacrifice animals because he fullfiled it.we don't tithe because we he replaced it with offering. We don't call a building the church because the doctrine for church is people only not a temple or building and to call one that is sin.
You are right every denomination is wrong because they all teach tithing and the church can be both building and people, this is why the father says let us worship in spirit and truth. So the church can only be the people.
If you obtain salvation any other way then grace only then your not saved.....
Sir ... You are clearly wrong. They are not the same person. This will clearly sum it up for you and hopefully you will look closely at this scripture concerning the end and who will rule over us all. 1 cor 15:24 and down.. Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every
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Excellent answer in one word
U r a blessd man of God
To REALLY understand what Yehoshua/Jesus was saying, you must first understand the language of Hebrew that these words were spoken. The word used there for Father in Hebrew is Ab and it means (the strength of the house., also the bud or the shoot)
The word for greater in Hebrew is gadol and it means ( first, ancient , significant , original, large, powerful,)etc.
and that word for the phrase " than I " is mimeni and it means (from, by reason of or out of me.)
Thus Yehoshua is saying that "The Original Power source is by reason of me" or " by reason of me, the budding, the growth will be significant" Yehoshua is expressing that through His crucifixion that It will generate a powerful, significant growth, or budding in The Kingdom.
Thus , when Yehoshua says in that same verse " I go to the Father, in Hebrew He is saying " I go to empower the budding, the growth of The Kingdom. Because every time a person is born again according to Acts 2:38 then The Kingdom of G-D is expanded. Yehoshua was talking about His dieing when He said " I go away" He was telling the disciples that He MUST die so that He can bring us back to life. For in Adam we all died, But in Christ we are all made alive again.
You all will find that Hebrew is like a multidimensional language. English is a very crude language only invented around the 1300's and it has 26 letters that don't mean anything but a sound. Whereas Hebrew has 22 letters and EACH LETTER consist of multiple meaning. This is why it seem in English that Yehoshua/ Jesus is referring to another entity, But in Reality the original Hebraic Meaning one can see that He is referring to Himself.
I pray I have helped in your understanding. And Remember Acts 2:38 is the keys to being Born Again. Not Roman's 10:9 . Because the book of Romans was written to saints, folk who were already born again. It tells you that in that 1st chapter of Roman's. But Paul was just encouraging the saints of what to do if you sin after being born again. He says to confess that sin verbally, with your mouth and believe in your heart that Christ's atoning Blood can wash you clean of that stain and thereby saving you. Saving you from what? You're probably asking. Saving you from the wrath of G-D that comes on G-D's children who are disobedience.
This is where the Scripture comes in " by Grace are you saved" Because Grace is G-D's unmerited favor to us, when we repent of sin, He "SAVES us from His Wrath. You see Grace saves a repented saint from wrath, but being born again according to Acts 2:38 saves us from eternal damnation, Also being born again according to Acts2:38 and John 3:5 gives us entrance into The Kingdom of G-D.
Amen Glory to God our Savior Jesus Christ Amen
Everything you have said is true...it saddens me that you see Christ, our brother in the congregation, yet set the distance He closed by coming to us in that you write 'G-D'...We are made holy in Christ, say his name as found in Exodus 6:3 and let your Father love you. I will pray for you.
@King Amen-Tut-Ankh your religion has your mind twisted , Jesus is not ra or none of your gods , He is the Creator of all things , and all things are His , Amen Jesus is the Truth and the Eternal life Amen
@@dennisking4589 read ISAIAH 9 :6 ,7
Jesus is God
Dennis King: In the Original Hebrew language Exodus 6:3 was written in is YHVH. There were no letter "J" until about 1500 AD. And the letter "J" still does not exist in the Hebrew language okay.
And it would have been nice to ask why I write G-D, instead of making an assumption, my friend.
You see in Hebrew there are no vowels okay. Also out of Reverence for The Most High I wrote it thus. For there are many entities that folk call gods But there is ONLY ONE TRUE G- D. And His given Name to us as a man is Yehoshua, meaning The Power of G- D unto Salvation
Good answer. Amen
That is such a BS answer. God has an office? Does He commute or is that a home office?
Wow, someone doesn't understands typology and takes everything literally. Good luck with that attitude! Specially in these times ;)
@@EnLaLunaGuzman Thank you.