They DONT cry when they lose! EVER! That clip has to be seen in context. They actually just won an award! All of them cried about what Jin said. They were having such a stressful year they considered disbanding. Everyone was crying. All of BTS. All of Army boohooing. Jin's speech was brilliant and very vulnerable! You'll hear it someday!! There is a whole video about all the hardships they've endured!
To be clear...we don't know if they've cried for loosing an award or not for you to say they DONT cry when they loose. Sh1t its only human if they do when they have a disappointment like any other human that worked hard! So they may have behind close doors, but they haven't allowed us fans to see that over not winning an award.
It was so powerful when RM said in the Vegas concert. “We didn’t come for Grammy, we came for Army” I literally cried …and instead of crying for not winning the Grammy, they used Grammy venue as their overflow live play venue. What a flex. Who needs who!! Army only wants a Grammy because Suga wants it 😅
@Krystal Livingston you are correct. I have never seen them cry on screen. On a v live. At a concert. At an award show. For losing. However. They could in private. I just thought the video said they cried when losing at an award show. And yes, they are very human. Thank you for pointing that out.
No package deal, no bundles! We pay for flights, hotels, tickets, parties, restaurant all separately! I flew to LA from Canada last year. My friend flew to London in 2019 from USA! ARMY can manage to secure tickets in ANY BTS show and we pack our bags and go! 💜
You have the opportunity to purchase all the special things like the dinners, the rooms w/merch, etc, but not as a bundle. Each purchase is it's own competition ;)
I don't care which part of her world we gotta fly! When next concert is announced and IF I survive Hunger Games and can get tickets, I'm going there! My 🇨🇦💜 group already preparing for our group trip! 🥰💜
I watched a video from a Mexican ARMY who was lucky enough to get a ticket for the Busan concert and she didn't have a visa and no time to get it, and she was like buckit I'm going to Korea and if they don't let me in well I just come back and that's that, she was lucky they gave her a like 5 days emergency permit or something like that and she could stay for the concert.
Nah, XCeleste would never rack on BTS. She's widely recognised as one of the go-tos in the fandom because of her vast knowledge and great content. Still hoping you'll react to her BTS Hardships 2013-2021 video... 😉
Dude.. This are actually facts. Historically, Generally anything women liked or loved was considered inferior. Until men liked the same thing. Then, Then it became, significant, important, tangible. Its ridiculous.
If it ended up becoming special but women found it first. I still see the women who found it as who made it special. Just because enough dudes say it’s okay doesn’t change the fact these women said it first and actively pushing the narrative that yes women did x first but then men said okay is actively working against those who deserve to be championed so I do not participate in the women found it and men made it cool. No women found it and when they did that’s when it was cool. Until that’s the flow anything else is just continuing the narrative of well yea they did it first but it didn’t become special until a man said it and I don’t think that’s accurate.
It works the other way around, too. Men wore higheels. When women began to wear them as a sign of strength and emancipitation? it was discarded by men. Also true for dancing - ballett specifically - cheerleading, figure skating etc. once women came in and succeeded at the very top - the interest by men went down.
@@Jurnalist_ I think the bigger argument here is about value about how men or male dominated media/society viewed the Beatles when the debuted. Of course they were very special, top-selling, number one on the charts, etc, but their Fanbase was “screaming teenage girls”. Their value as musical artists wasn’t as high until they became popular more with men rather than predominantly young women.
@@ruthfischer7615 Same thing with make up it was original for extremely rich men eg kings and princes then the women joined. Then it was though if a woman wore make up she must be harlot. Later most women wore make up and men gave it up. Now ignorant men say oh look he's got make up on he's a girl or he's gay etc etc mmmm men wore make up long before we women did. Not that I really wear make up myself unless it's for a very special occasion.
I mean, why do we even devalue a teenager's love for music? Why is a teenager's love for something considered worth less than an adult's love for something? It's both love even if it looks different. And teenagers may not share your age, but they are humans just like everyone else. They are not worth less and yet we put them down them like this.
Because of apathy and being jaded. A big ethos I have is never forget what age you were. But as many adults do all the time they forget what it meant to be x age so when a teenager says something or a child they instantly devalue the opinion. Doing so is reductive and stupid. This also happens as our global society is built on capitalism. If you don’t have a financial input your verbal input is devalued. So kids and teens with no money might as well be ghost. Do I agree with this thinking no but I understand how it persist.
This was much needed today. You asked what BTS is gonna do with the passion and loyalty of fans? Well we've been trying to convince them to form their own country with Namjoon (who is frequently referred to as President/Mr. President) as the leader ever since an army suggested it on a live stream years ago.
I flew out to vegas for their concert last year (I live on the atlantic side of the country) and spent willingly nearly 6000$ getting to and spent in Vegas, they have no bundles or packages for "VIP Concert" except for sound checks even then it's super affordable (floor tickets with sound check are around 400$ at most). They did have the BoraFestival (set up by HYBE / BTS with the city iteself) for the town where Vegas basically spent 2 weeks celebrating ARMY and having restaurants serve korean foods, stores and some hotels had discounts, the boys favourite foods were being served under specials and in the hotels they had free gifts that were bts themed. There was even post concert nightclub parties that were BTS themed. Worth. Every. Penny. BTS loves ARMY and we felt it for those 2 weeks.
The PTD concerts in Las Vegas were insane. Hybe partnered with the city to provide BTS experiences throughout the strip - we called this Borahaegas. It included special menus, hotel packages, etc. but we had to purchase everything separately. BTS used to have meet and greets but now the closest “extra” you can get is Soundcheck, but the availability is very limited.
@@Jurnalist_ BTS have never done meet & greets related to concerts (to the best of my knowledge). However, BTS used to host fan-signs that lucky armys would win by lottery raffle. You had to have an army membership and could submit your name for a chance to attend an event if you bought their album (from korea) that they were promoting at the time of the event (this did not apply to albums purchased from the US market because that would be considered bundling). It was open to armys all over the world, but the fan-signs themselves where in Korea. A fan-sign included being in the room with the guys who would sit at the front of the room behind a long table. You’d waiting in line for your turn, and had an opportunity to chat with each member while they signed a page in a copy of your album. Armys often would bring letters & gifts to the members too. There’s tons of footage of these interactions online. BTS haven’t done a fan-sign since the album Map of the Soul: Persona (released April 2019). This is because when Map of the Soul 7 released (Feb 2020), covid hit and government restrictions prevent such gatherings. Restrictions have lighten up since mid-2022, but that’s when the group started their Chapter 2.
Boracity magazine creates essay videos that are well-researched. As a 40-year old ARMY and for someone who's been in the fandom for years, I can attest that ARMY is truly diverse. 💜 We're not "crazy" but instead we're passionate in giving our support to BTS (from buying of concert tickets, albums and merchandise, to voting in Awards shows). Was able to attend their recent concert in Busan. Though tickets were 'free' since it was used as promotion to help South Korea's government bid to organize World Expo 2030, ARMY paid for own expenses like flights, hotels, merchandise, etc... Had a blast and was happy to meet ARMY coming from various countries. 😊 BTS concerts don't have bundles.
The crazy thing is, it doesn't matter what they submit under, the industry still just places them in the k pop umbrella. Look at Indigo, full of 10 different genres of music, still classified as k pop.
this is why sometimes Army are hated on by Kpoppies because some of us would say BTS is not Kpop but we do it not because of arrogance but we do it because it's a stifling box for the boys that the music industry keeps putting them in.
This!!! I swear when I saw that indigo was named the best kpop album of 2022 by I think that was billboard or rolling stone? firstly I was happy in the sense that it came out in the last month of the year and achieved this but then cmon KPOP? that beautiful album has different nice and enjoyable genre's. Just because he or some of his collaborators sings or raps in Korean and are from Korea doesn't mean the album he created is kpop. Kpop is soooooo different from this masterpiece together with Jack in the box, same thing.
@@lifeofchile I opened a saving account just for this when we got the enlistment news back in October ! I am definitely financially ready to buy whatever ticket concert and plane ticket wherever the venue is on the face of this earth! Ain't NO WAY I'm missing that Avengers Endgame like comeback😭 Praying that by that time Big Hit figures out a way to develop their own ticketing system because F* ticketmaster 😂 and the stadiums are already too small today like in Vegas they already had to have the viewing at the screen at MGM while being at Allegiant and the 4 nights were packed... so by 2025??? The size of the fandom will be problematic for sure😂
i have to disagree with the statement "the ladies first" because i am highly ridiculed by my family for liking BTS; and it was the same for justin bieber. men often see our tastes and passion for something as a "craze" they make fun of us for liking what we like while theirs is encouraged and applauded. so yes, the beatles started to be "cool" because men started to like them, it's not even a joke, it's a fact
He missed the point that the issue is misogyny and ageism, not saying who the trendsetters are. We *know* women are the most powerful trendsetters. The reality is that those trends aren't considered worthy until men give them recognition. Since he doesn't have to deal with that treatment every day, maybe it just didn't occur to him. I'm just waiting to see if he believes it exists. There are a lot of people who say misogyny isn't real and women are just trying to play the victim. Men who know history and educate themselves about what the patriarchy has done to women are still in short supply, but that is a necessity for anyone who wants anything to do with ARMY. 😅
I’m sorry you saying this is actively participating in the removal of what women do first in my opinion. Just because public opinion shifts to said artist being deemed cool. Doesn’t mean they weren’t cool before. When those women said this is the next guy or gal or band or whatever it was cool the moment those women rallied behind it. No matter if they are ridiculed or disregarded. The true taste makers that found it early or first were women. This is why I say men help shift the tide sure but the ladies will and have forever picked what was cool. 🤷🏾♂️
@@Jurnalist_ if you are responding to me then , i can assure you , you did not say anything different from what i said. i'm well aware that we have amazing taste. i surely did not wait for a man to tell me that something is awesome before actually believing it. i put the word cool in "" exactly because of that. what i'm trying to expose here is the shift of the tide like you said. because i find it unfortunate that men have to hop on the bandwagon (sometimes, far too late) for it to become acceptable especially in the media. and that's the point the video was trying to make. WE KNOW ITS COOL but the GENERAL PUBLIC, THE MEDIA and the ENTIRE MALE POPULATION have to state it before we stopped being called hysterical and crazy. that's our reality.
@@ma-px1nb Okay I get your point but I still don't like that narrative but you are not wrong. But I think allowing the media and xyz to be the final nail in the its cool factor is my issue. So I choose to focus on who found it first as the alternative is like giving Columbus credit for finding America like it didn't exist before that man said here it is.
I'd like to point out that most of BTS' recent releases are widely critically acclaimed; the way BTS is perceived is not linked to their sound or music but to the stigma behind boybands
The light sticks are called ‘Army Bombs” which cost $60. it has its own app and they connect with Bluetooth depending what section you sit in a concert to it can create pretty light shows and words
The thing I know about being a BTS fan is: BTS may say they are going on vacation/hiatus and you think as a fan, I'm going to rest up, and 2 weeks later, we are getting alerts in the middle of the night, saying something is about to drop. I haven't gotten sleep since I've been ARMY. I think there will be a couple of dry times, they are in the military, (Maybe a month) during the two years but honestly, those boys love to surprise ARMY when we aren't expecting anything. FYI: ARMY Bombs are $65. Do not buy them on Amazon, or you'll get an expensive flashlight with a ball, that looks like an ARMY bomb. You must order from BT21 or Weverse Shop. This will ensure that you are getting you ARMY Bomb with all the connections you need to light up the biggest stadium.
I flew with my husband from Vancouver, Canada, to Las Vegas in April last year to their concert at Allegiant Stadium. There's no package deal. We paid for the tickets, airfares, and hotel accommodations separately. It was expensive but it's so worth it. I met a lady from Indonesia who flew to LA for all 4 concerts at the Sofi Stadium in Dec of 2021, and she went to all 4 concerts in Las Vegas in April of 2022. A lot of BTS ARMY have good disposable income, and they don't mind spending it to support BTS.
I don’t consider BTS as just K-pop. I consider them as music artists who do many genres. I think the western music industry wants them and tries very hard to keep them in the K-pop niche so that they can keep them out of the major categories in award shows and to politic them to be remained them in the K-pop category. Let’s face it racism has always existed and how the industry worked that out is to create other categories like r&b, latin, and now K-pop. In my opinion they create certain categories to keep people out rather than giving recognition, acceptance and inclusion. My interpretation of what she said about the Beatles is that they didn’t get the critical acclaim until men started liking them. The Beatles craze started with screaming teenage girls but got legit when men begin to appreciate their music. Hedy Lamar helped the US government create the sonar system during WWII.
I just paid 100$ for cinema tickets to watch the Busan yet to come concert that I ALREADY watched FOR FREE. I’m driving AN HOUR away to watch it. I just joined an ARMY book club that I found on IG and I’m in an ARMY gc where we text each other everyday and we make sure we’re ok and we keep each other updated on BTS related topics. We are like a small society. And about waiting 2 years for them to come back, they’ve been putting out cine y for us every week since they announced their break. Jimin literally had a song coming out tomorrow. I would wait 50 years if I had to. We have schedules up until 2039 when BTS will open up their Time Capsule box that’s in the national museum of Korean Contemporary History
I dunno - I'd go farther than 2039.... We want to see them all fat and creaky surrounded by their grandkids and joking about how they've become the Bangtan Harabojis. 🤣🤣🤣 I won't make it, but I'll always have that image in my purple heart. 💜
Hahaha those "little lights" are worth $$ because of the interaction you feel at the show or at home. Because of the Bluetooth tech, we can not only pair it up at the concert according to our seat assignment, but at home we can also pair it with BTS' company app while we watch music videos or concerts at home. Holding something that feels like I'm part of the immersive experience of the show, becomes a symbol of the fandom and the connection that BTS has with ARMY and vice versa.
@@Jurnalist_ depends on where you're from and where you're buying. I got mine from bts's official store on weverse and it hardly cost me over £50, whereas I saw them selling for £80-£90 on Amazon, always buy from bts's official shop and it will be cheaper.
Check it out my guy...They (BTS & Bang PD) have always wanted to change the concert experience for fans. Behind the scenes they prepare just as long and hard for the literal "concert experience" as the guys prepare for their performances on stage. Cities know that when BTS come to their town it's gonna be MASSIVE. The company set up "popup" merchandise stores throughout the city in addition to the merch trailers at the venue, small, temporary BTS museums that display their history, etc. Cities light their buildings in purple at night, clubs have BTS night, hotels have special BTS themed rooms in addition to their normal room rentals, restaurants around the venue add Korean cuisine to their menus during this time. Las Vegas renamed their city "Borahegas" for those few days. It is an ENTIRE BTS concert experience. It is fantastic and insane (in a good way) all at the same time. If you were not lucky enough to snag tickets to the stadium, you can (for a cheaper price) get tickets to a nearby arena or large theatre where the concert is broadcasted live or buy online live stream concert tickets. It is an entire BTS City Festival and not just a concert. It's their way of remembering and thanking the fans AND it makes them and the city more money. BTS NEVER forget their fans.
From boracity “the next bts “ is a very well put video and it’s currently what we armys r seeing and dealing with… its a good video to watch!! Also Aneesa has put back The Rise of Bangtan videos back on RUclips so u can react and watch them direct from the channel and show some love to her series directly!!! Here’s the link to the channel : youtube.com/@TheRiseOfBTS
When/where did she say she'd put it back? The channel still seems empty and there's not been any update on the official twitter as far as I can see. I really hope it's actually happening though, I kinda figured she wasn't going to complete it fully, but seeing it go completely was such a shame since the parts we got still holds so much value. :(
I just noticed that channel yesterday. It looks like another army created a new channel to upload all the videos. So far I think only the chapters are uploaded. I haven't seen any bonus content or deleted scenes on that new channel. I am honestly just glad there will be a place I can go back to watch them. 💜
I bought my ARMY Bomb (BTS light stick) for about $49 plus tax and shipping 2 yrs ago. Now it costs $59 (not incl. tax & S&H) for special edition, not $130, on Weverse Shop.
Can someone more knowledgeable than me bring up how instead of including BTS in standard categories like R&B etc, they went opposite and decided to create a separate forum? Was it kpop billboards?
As an OG BTS ARMY I can tell you that we fought against the K-pop stigma for years. I think we had just about won the war in 2018 and 2019. You didn’t see them referred to as K-pop as much in the global media. October 2018 was when all of the K-poppies banded together and kicked us out of Kpop because they were jealous which was great bc that’s what we wanted . That was when we decided to form our own country and call it Namkanda with Namjoon as our President. Things changed with the pandemic and the huge influx of fans who had not been around long and who embraced the K-pop label. There are a lot of new BTS fans who have taken the time to learn the history and know the music but many just wanted to jump on the bandwagon of the biggest group in the world. They like fighting other fans and being obnoxious but they don’t know anything about what BTS stands for. Because they don’t know the difference between artists who write their own music and work for years shedding blood sweat and tears over it and KpOp which is manufactured for the most part and whose artists only pretend to write lyrics. Anyway it’s hard for long time BTS fans because Hybe was in the past few years built on the talent of BTS and the hard work of ARMY. The new corporation that was built now has it as its mission to spread K-pop around the world. So even though BTS is the farthest thing in the world from K-pop we may be stuck with the label. There are so many great Korean artists like the ones on RM’s album Indigo who are not K-pop. I don’t know which is more corrupt, Kpop or the US music industry. I only know that BTS is honest and it makes for a difficult but also exhilarating journey.
He just needs to keep watching more Boracity. She covers touches on that in the "BTS vs attendance award shows" video. (Basically, Boracity is doing the maximum. I'm so proud of ARMY!)
Imagine if he saw how Vegas turned into Borahaegas. I'm sure there's a video out there that covered everything. It was WILD! Locals said they had never seen anything like it. Airlines, TSA tweeting at us😂😂
They are mostly considered a pop act but it's very recent. Their performance at the 2022 Grammys, which I recommend for you to watch, left a deep impression on the industry, and after that, we could feel a certain shift with even the Grammys themselves. Grammys x BTS is really a story that dates back since 2018, and every year this institution found a way to snub them, including in 2022, but after their performance, I wouldn't say the Grammys accept them but definitely there is a change, as they are now considered more of a pop act than a k-pop act. BTS went from one Grammy nomination per year to suddenly 3 nominations for the 2023 Grammys. Indigo is such a Grammy worthy album, but after 2022, BTS kind of gave up and didn't expect much from the Grammys, so J-Hope didn't even bother to submit his album, especially since you have to kiss asses to be considered and BTS isn't inclined to do that, but since they were nominated 3 times for the 2023 Grammys out of nowhere, I hope Namjoon will attempt to submit his work this year for the 2024 Grammys for hip-hop category, or even R&B because his album is deserving but I don't know if he will. Also, the others are going to release their albums too, I have no doubt it will be good, and I hope they give it a go for the Grammys, I just wonder what genre they will go for. So overall, BTS is an act more consider pop than k-pop but it's only very recent.
I think she's totally right when she spoke about The Beatles : They grew in success and popularity because of their women fan. But they start to be recognized as great musiciens, and legends by the media and the general public only when men comes to love them too. Because we live in a patriarcal society, dude, and you can't denied this. Same with BTS: most people don't want to listen to their music, and give it a try , they don't take them seriously because they think we just are "hormonal teenage screaming girls" that faint in front of a beautiful asian boysband. That's suck, really ! Army is so diverse in gender, age, ethnicity, sexuality, social or economical "class"... For me, I'm a 58 years old woman, a writer and a lawyer, and even if I think BTS are the most hanssome men on earth, it's not what attracted me to them and made me an Army. I'm able to make the difference between good music, deep lyric and artistry, and the bullshit that I hear all day on the radio and it will be great if more people would open their closed mind, and listen to BTS music without prejudice. NOta : XCeleste is not a haters Lol ! She is a OG Army and she made very informative video about BTS and Army : you see his name on this video because Boracity magazine use short clips from his video ;
Ll cool j the Beatles Drake. The stones Led Zeppelin. Any band or artist with meaningful or massive success never have a majority of a male fan base. Do we live in a patriarchy sure. But those ruling men still want and need women. So again why men wear beards or listen to certain artist is due to the strong and magnetic influence of these women. Women will pick a thing and then men will act like they found it all on their own. It’s a documented fact throughout history but also in music. Why women pick what they do is very hard for me as a man to pin down but from my experience plus what I’ve gleamed from music research. The women make and or break you when it comes to selection and or destruction I.E cancel Culture. Despite being a patriarchal society these efforts are in my opinion always lead by women and bolstered by men’s participation. So women make you famous and can take it away and the faster both of these happen is the participation of men but that participation is secondary to the selection women have already made.
@@Jurnalist_ all of that does not negate the fact that men will look down on what women are attracted to at first. it's not until they have something to gain from it like you said ( attraction, validation from us) that they will start actually giving it a try and taking a liking to it. but before they try, for them, it's "girl stuff". that's where the unfairness comes from for me. and when we take the example of drake, there's A LOT of men that where fans since the beginning, because of his hip-hop influence. although he was addressing songs to the ladies it was very much from a "male prospective" he was no RnB singer like mario and such. there is some truth in what you're saying but our experience is the proof that we are still being ridiculed at first.
@@Jurnalist_ you're not getting it. What you say is true, but the most important part is when you say "bolstered by men's participation". That "bolstering" is the catalyst that validates things in society. Men "participate" when they can no longer ignore that something is good and there to stay - then they appropriate it as you say. _*This is not a collaborative process*_! All this time, women and girls are disparaged as silly, hormonal beings who can't look at things with any discernment or objectivity, and certainly not as curators of excellence bringing things to men's attention. We deal with this every day. It is real. You need to insert it into your largely accurate but incomplete narrative.
@@ma-px1nb Not saying it negates it but I also will not or choose not to play into those narratives and rigid frames of thinking. You are right the unfairness is paramount and not right and shouldn't even be apart of the do you like it or not. I can tell you in America if you are around late 20s early 30s and a man you are apart of a small 1% who were on his side prior to his glo up. But the rest of men only started rocking with bro after every time you wanted to link a bird she was playing his music and was not listening to no one else. again playing into women found it first and its a girl thing but now I've heard it enough I like it. I agree his perspective was male but he came out with that perspective when men as a whole were not being that open with how we feel. Drake pushed that tide and now king toxic (Future) is able to do what he does in his love songs. I hope you don't think I'm trying to disregard that women are ridiculed first before being heralded as the bastions of the discovery. I more so am trying to say I look at that dynamic and give credit to the women because without you all nothing spins.
Just saying the free concert they did last Oktober with 100k people had just over 50 Million viewers in their Livestream, even If we crashed the site multiple times
The light sticks (ARMY Bomb) is expensive but has Bluetooth capability. You put you seat number for a concert into the app, & then a program will control the light colour changes to beat & spell out messages across the stadium. Some of their music videos now also can be linked to the light stick for a light show. Well worth the money they cost 💜
That is actually super super super dope. I was going to use more swear words in my response but text doesn’t convey tone so I just used super a lot. 😂🤷🏾♂️
11:22 What she’s referring to is beer brewing, not beer drinking. Brewers used to be exclusively women, and beer brewing was considered women’s work. When men saw how much women were profiting from this, they squeezed women out of the industry, and it’s now considered a male realm. This change over was during the 16-17 centuries btw😅
Is that right now. This is a gem of a comment I never in life have seen a female brewer in old times. See them all the time in modern era but never knew it was the ladies making the Meade. 😂😂
@@Jurnalist_ my country is famous for it's beer. My city was a wine city. Who made beer than when it was not actuallly sold in pubs etc.? Women brewed beer at home every morning for the family/breakfast - why? did you know that there was no water filtering but people threw their trash and other stuff into the water? Beer was healthier and women mixed personal recips than. It's actually very interesting the history of different stuff.
What surprised me was you seemed to recognize Hedy Lamarr. I am older army and I love BTS. I have always been interested in hearing new music and they have opened up a whole new worid for me. Enjoyed your reaction. See you soon.🥰🥰🥰💜
I know hedy and all the powerful black women history and media has tried to have us forget. This is why I said I couldn’t think of the other ladies name who isn’t hedy who we sometimes accredit the invention of gps and Wi-Fi and voice mail to.
Their solo albums as well as earlier albums have done tallies on R&B and rap charts. But western award commitees tend to stick them only in the Group or Kpop categories. K-pop categories were created when BTS started to win the Western awards to keep BTS out of the major categories. That's why their win for Artist of the year at last year's AMAs was such a huge deal, it was the first time they were recognized along side the other big players. For the Grammy's they can submit for those categories, but they may get push back from others who don't want to see them that way.
34:00 omg that's just what I thought if outsiders thought bts numbers and achievements are already incredible I can't wait for 2025 I'm sure the world will be blown away multiplefold... as an army, a 2 year rest to plan and save money for bts' 2025 comeback album and merch and tours is just what we need to support the Tannies with everything we've got 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
and we don't even get much of a "rest" bc of solo releases and pre-recorded content. The tannies keep getting new fans everyday and those people have so much back catalog to check out that it won't even feel like a long wait for them and if folks think bts is big now, by the time we get 2025... oh damn the world will not be ready lol
I would also consider them a majority R&B Hip-Hop group. We have been discussing genres in relation to RM’s last album, which they considered Kpop when it’s really not. But then again what is it?
@@Jurnalist_ ARMY were debating why not include RM as a rap album. I do believe they want to sideline them with kpop bc otherwise BTS would win so many more awards. I did appreciate your comment about the western music industry wanting to keep out foreign acts bc the western artists lack in artistry. They are not globally competitive. Once you really delve into BTS world and understand all of who they are, there are NO OTHER artists like them.
Suga even said, we havent even peeked yet!! When they Come back from the military its gonna be 🤯🤯🤯 In the meanwhile we get solo projects, enough content to keep us settisfied... We can rewatch more than 150 Run Bts episodes, so its all good!! And in these years they away, still People will check m out, and more People will become Army 💪💪 The future is bright, and i am looking forward to that 👌👌💜💜
@@Jurnalist_ They don't do them at concerts. I think those are mainly done as a separate event, and it's raffled. They are also more of an intimate setting, like only 200 people, and they have millions of fans, so that makes it almost impossible to get to meet them. But they make up for it with online livestreams with ARMY's. They answer questions on their stream, and you can leave them messages on Weverse, which is their social media platform.
Yeah I'm glad you brought the kpop thing RM and SUGA used to look down on kpop that when they debuted they debuted and introduced themselves as a hiphop group who dance and sings and growing up they kept having a conflict of who they are suga said in agustd that his size is bigger than kpop bts concider themselves as btspop and as artists who make art and they hate when people label them in a genre because they do everything even though kpop isn't a genre but an industry in idol a song they released in 2018 at the beginning RM said "you can call me idol(kpop idol) you can call me artist I don't care" in dayunisus suga said born an idol and reborn as an artist but in interviews they say they are their own genre and they do what they want specially this few years they don't do much of kpop industry shit anymore
RM: As kpop is becoming bigger we should have some debates. What is Kpop? For our “Dynamite,” we sang the whole lyrics for the first time in English and that hit number one (Billboard). So some might say that this is not Kpop because you guys all sang in English. But what’s Kpop? We just don’t want to limit this music or our hearts to this boundary called “Kpop.” for a lot of kpop groups being associated with kpop wave can be profiting cuz it gives them exposure at this point in the career of bts though this label only restricts them and is used as a way to limit their reach. it's a categorization based solely on the nationality. even bts' english songs whiten by western people will be put in kpop playlists only or nominated for kpop categories only look, a simple example. My Universe is collab song Coldplay x BTS. and i heard that Coldplay were writing this song just for BTS but then they all collectively decided to make it a collaboration. and just think about it that way: if it had been sung just by BTS it'd have been categorized as k-pop. but now that it's a collab, it falls under pop or alternative lol
I don't believe K-Pop is a genre, it's the name for the Korean IDOL system of music. Withing the KPOP industry is many different genre's. BTS has transcended the KPOP category. They are just amazing musicians.
They did Meet and Greet in the very beginning when they weren't famous! I don't think Army had to pay. They had to quit when they started getting famous.
Here is the challenge with a Meet and Greet today. Those people would all have to go through a serious security background check. What you dont know. BTS has been living with death threats from the beginning. They still have to deal with haters. Haters who spread horrible disrespectful rumors. Those haters could possibly pass a security background check and "Get In" and be near them and cause big problems! When they leave and arrive at airports they are completely surrounded by body guards. Their vehicle is surrounded by body guards. The fans and paparazzi swarm them ! I think there should be a law for all Celebrities you CAN'T be within 25 feet of them at airports. Its so dangerous. You can watch. There are live watch cameras waiting for them for hours. The body guards have to push all fans and media trying to touch them and get their cameras in their face. Sometimes...I think it happened at L.A. they had to leave through a private exit. It got that bad! Luckily, they get to meet their celebrity fans at award shows. And they get to meet the celebrities they want to. And they do meet and greet with celebrities and their families before and after concerts. They enjoy that. I promise you they won't have Meet and Greets ever again! They can't go shopping. VERY RARELY. JK sang for the opening of the FIFA games. He shopped at a mall in Dubai surrounded by his staff and under cover security so it didn't look so obvious. The store has to know ahead of time because the store has to be cleared of everyone so he could shop without being swarmed. But here is something cute. Two little girls wandered up to the front door of the store. JK saw them and talked to them and allowed them to be in a picture with him.
About the genre thing: their song Butter was a english single just Like Dynamite, I think I am not the only one who still doesn't know how it got nominated in the kpop category by some shows and Pop in others, Like make it less obvious that you made that category just so they wont be in the main ones
The thing is its hard to say BTS is kpop when their success is in large part because of the different way they do things, in my opinion one of the many reasons you cant say bts ist JUST kpop, because they have sooo many differences to the "standard kpop way"
5:48 No beef with Xceleste, she's an ARMY The clips that showcase her name are from her own BTS information vids, this one is from their hardships video, I believe However, the girl in the clip is just........ 😤😒 Well, you get the picture lol smh
No! Go watch the documentary on Hedy Lamarr’s life! She was a freaking genius. I’m not sure which streaming service it is on but it will blow your mind!
BTS’ message is about being yourself and loving yourself, they are not going to change to cater to anyone and that’s why I love them. They are just themselves and if you love them, you love them and if you don’t, you don’t, period. I respect that and will continue to support them in whatever genuine way they want to express themselves. They are not “trying” to be anything or anyone other than people who just love doing music that inspires!💜 🫰
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for your serious approach to BTS and ARMY. Some of the other male reactors are less than respectful and are somewhat transparent about it. I got interested in BTS completely by accident. I was looking for Charlie Puths song We Don’t Talk Anymore and found Jimin and Jungkooks cover and was blown away and as ARMY says I fell down the rabbit hole. I love their music, their messages, their dedication to performance but I won’t lie I am 55, married but I have 2 working eyes and THEY FINE! I’m old not dead. There are segments of the fandom that will balk at any sexualization of BTS but seriously they are grown men and they do sexualize themselves in video…..not to the degree of American artists but they’re not saints either. I have a problem with younger fans that think just because I’m older I should not have the same thoughts and feeling about them that a 20 year old has. We all get older but we don’t stop being who we are. The light stick known as an Army Bomb costs about 55.00 US each. BigHit and Hybe are masters at merchandising everything. I saw them at their last Las Vegas concert in April and I went alone. The whole trip including transportation, food, hotel and oh yes lots of merch cost me a little under 4,000.00US. There are many Army I know that spend far more than I do to support them. There are many who have gone to Korea to see them in concert. People are learning Korean while BTS does their military service to understand them better. Army is very dedicated. This will sound completely stupid but BTS reminds me of the movie Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure. At the end of the movie Bill and Teds band transcends everything and heals the world and makes society better. In a way that’s what BTS feels like. They are leaving the place better than they found it. Please keep up the good work.
Ty for this comment especially. “ I have two working eyes and THEY FINE. I’m old not dead.” Only change I would make. You are seasoned with life that doesn’t mean you don’t know god when you see it. I agree though age is not a excluder for attraction or participation. This is a thing again as a man my sexual agency is allowed to like younger women who are of age. Yet older women doing it are seen even more so as predators than men are. This is a dichotomy I don not participate in especially after having a daughter I was rudely awakened to all the things I can do as a man that women are demonized for. Excuse me 4k? Lord Jesus on high please help me cultivate a support of myself and music that would garner me such favor that someone would buy 4k or more of my Merch and or tickets. That’s a support I only seen for those mid life crisis men who go to rock and roll camps for adults at like 50+ S/O to you for not caring about outside thought and supporting and enjoying what’s you enjoy damn if they get you or not. Plus the community of BTS fans is one of if not the best fans I’ve ever seen. I literally was talking to my friend about how great you all are.
10:00 not trying to be rude but you don’t understand bc you’re not a women, men constantly belittle women’s interest including music that’s a fact, i lost count how many times men tried to say all my likes are “bad” and not worth their time, the only time men try to understand what women like is when they are interested in them like you said, otherwise men just don’t care and love to bring it down just bc girls like it, thanks for the reaction tho 🙏
I would say for most men you are correct. For my self personally I don’t discount a women’s opinions or likes. This is me though. Do I understand from a woman’s perspective surely no but I understand that this ting called earth don’t spin without a women and her influence and opinions and I mean from the Dawn of time to today. I bet if we took the time to look into it a women has either influenced said thing or directly made it. Very little in this world do I think was invented or done without that influence. But I also know I’m a man with no issues saying this and I know most men don’t think of women being so powerful but I do.
when you said you had to wait 5 years for some of your favs I automatically thought about Kendrick 😭😭😭 and I really like to see your insight regarding BTS and related topics 😔 about kpop evolving and having more idols producing their own songs, it is already happening!! kpop is not only about the genre "pop" per se, some people can see kpop as "Korean popular" so everything that is popular with the public. kpop covers a lot of different genres and it is still kpop regardless (specially when you participated from the training process, you were trained to be an idol). that's why it can be liked by a lot of people, everyone can find what they like inside of kpop. however, in south Korea, there are some that are considered artists and not only idols. also, some that are not considered idols at all as we can see in k-hip hop, k-r&b and ballads. now it's actually getting a little bit difficult to explain what kpop actually means as it's getting more mainstream
you've been watching a lot of fanmade videos lately and those are good but maybe you could do music reactions in between too? there's only arson left in jack in the box album and d-2 has some of my personal fav songs. thank you for your reacton as always!
Actually she is right music that is popular among women as a woman myself is always looked down at from media and the gp I still don't know why though but music that is popular among man is always being the best and that's the taste
I agree it is looked down on but then to say it only became cool after men find it helps to push the narrative women are not taste makers and I myself knowing how pivotal it is to not only have good women on your team but also so support is Tina long and successful career. Do not like the idea that c thing became cool 17 years later when men said okay no look at it like 17 years a thing has been cool and men were to dumb to associate with it. This is why I say ll cool j is a big inspiration to me. He was dissed by say 99% of his fans wear high heels. I heard that and said so. 99% of a group of people who as men we would like to be seen by see this man and support him I rather have that that 100% of male support as men are far more fickle with what we spend money on and like. Women how ever for the most part once they support you they die supporting you long as you are genuine and authentic.
@@Jurnalist_ that's why we as armys are proud and feel more comfortable to be a female dominated fandom we love our male armys and the thing that makes us so much comfortable is bts always proud to have us and always acknowledge that they have us and they always defend us from media and weird people everytime we get attacked
In england they call gentrification 'rejuvenation projects' lol it's just social cleansing. But I always remember how well the BTS army killed off any tory hashtags on twitter during brexit
How about the US elections? Those were proud days seeing ARMY hijack racist and qanon hashtags with the ever-hated fancams. And reserving seats at The Orange One's rally to mess with their numbers and create empty seats. 🤣😂🤣 Ahhh, subversive activism. Love to see it.
Actually you found BTS at the time you were supposed to. There is a saying in the fandom that BTS finds you when you need them. Someone correct me if I didn't say it right. I became an ARMY late 2019. I think if I found BTS earlier, my concentration in school would have been low lol! I went back for a second degree and a new/additional career and I'm a 54 year old ARMY. As for the light sticks (ARMY Bombs), you can order them through Weverse or get them at a concert. There might be other places too. I think I paid around $65. I got one attending their Las Vegas concert, which was a blast and I met some really wonderful people and I went by myself, because they were sold out on Weverse. I have listened to other kpop groups and like most of what I hear. I think some of the music sounds the same to me because, at least for the male groups, they choose all tenors for the vocalists I believe, so to me there is no diversity to how they sound. I also tend listen to other kpop groups where I know they write their own music such as Seventeen, Stray Kids and Mamamoo because their voices are out of this world. I like BlackPink too even though I'm not sure how much they write or produce. My ultimate favorite whom I love like my family is BTS. BTS is their own genre to be honest because they are not afraid to try different things and come out of their comfort zone. I'm so glad you found out about them and I always enjoy watching reaction channels when they first experience BTS because they can experience the joy and connection I feel. BTS are the first musical artists I have ever felt this way about. I have had crushes and favorites in music, like Rick James and Prince and for hip Hop/Rap I have many artists I like: Sugar Hill Gang, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Kool Moe D, Heavy D, Run DMC, Public Enemy, LL Cool J, A Tribe called Quest, Whodini, Salt and Pepa, Queen Latifah, Eric B and Rakim, Big Daddy Kane (Too many to name and Yeah, I'm going way back LOL!) I'm sorry I got long winded with my writing and usually don't comment on too many channels but I really enjoy your channel and your knowledge, respect and passion for good music. Thanks again for the great reaction. Enjoy your day.💜
I will have to say you just might be right. For what I want to build in my musical career and the musical output I have in this stage of my life. It’s crazy to say BTS especially the rap line have provided me with a perspective and understanding I might not have arrived at or would’ve gotten to far too late to be beneficial. Where as even the last song when writing it I thought of RM and how he might approach crossing the bridge of being truly open and honest in his music so it can connect more.
fyi the "little lights" are bts's official lightstick called army b0mbs! it's something common in the kpop industry / culture for groups to have their own personalized lightstick for fans to have on concerts and events. it's basically a symbol of the fandom you are part of, so to speak.
bts has the larges box office in the US i belive maybe Bruce Springsteen was more but he had 14 shows or more to earn the same as bts did in only 4 shows. and that is not counting the hotels in las vegas witch was booked with army. las vegas was purple the entire week you can check the news it´s crazy. there was also BTS after party and it was filled with army and they only played bts songs the whole night.
BTS acknowledge that K-Pop is a part of what they're. But they don't call it K-pop, because K-Pop is a western term. In Korea it's called idol music and BTS call themselves idols. However to put BTS strictly into K-Pop box (the way West understand what K-Pop is) is unwise. K-pop not strictly a genre even if somehow it is. It is industry and many Korean artists who can sound opposite of what you'd expect of K-Pop are still considered K-Pop. So, yes, BTS are K-Pop and the boyband and there is nothing derogatory in these terms. Still they are so much more than this.
First of all want to start with, I'm a 44 years old Mexican woman, living in Texas, so with that out of the way 😅. For me it was hilarious when you said "I strongly disagree " and start to say your thoughts and at the end of the day, your reasoning was almost the same at what she was referring to. And I been meaning to respond about what you said about the "European "football? I strongly disagree with you on that. Let's talk about high school/college American football, and how borderline and sometimes really abusive the "couch "are. Just a few months ago my daughter (who is a band member in her high school) was recounting how a couch from another high school was telling his kids how stupid and incompetent they were and how they should have to crush my daughter high school team because "they are a bunch of immigrants kids ",and yes there were parents of those kids with in their group and not one of those parents stop him or say anything against him, and of course just remember how college use their athletes to make money (remember also how a few years back a couch was accused and indicted on abuse and the college had been hiding it for years? ). And one of the most recent ones about Gymnastics and all this doctors, couches and organizer who not only were seaczauli abusing this athletes from the time they were really young, but also were telling them that if they say something or tell someone they would not be able to keep on competing and they're parents would lose their job and money. So yeah while football is taken really seriously all over the world and some times (a lot of times) fans and organizations are obnoxiously serious and borderline abusive about training and looking for the next Messi, American football is the same way (and to be honest, lots of other American sports also)and have the same aspects to it.(don't forget they start training at 4 years old and spend thousands of dollars on it). I really enjoyed your videos, I just found your channel last week, I like that you really pay attention and have inside knowledge of the entertainment industry. You good, keep going. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🇲🇽🤟
Nah these guys are living legends for sure no one can say anything different it's utterly facts tho. They will always be our 7 kings. Just letting ya know hahaha 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰
LL Cool J was my biggest intro to rap/hip hop. BAD was the soundtrack to my senior year of hs along with Salt n Pepa, Beastie Boys, Cameo etc. 🥰 I was at that show at Allegiant. It was the last of four they sold out. Army invaded Vegas for two weeks - it was the best time of my life. I met an Army on Twitter to share my lodging with in trade for a ticket to one of the shows. We had never met but clicked immediately. On the way to Vegas I met an Army during on my flight - we went to Hobipalooza together a few months later. Army are instant family. We make little gifts to give out to other Armys at shows. I made another friend in line for merch at a show. I have never felt safer in a crowd than in Allegiant stadium. BTS don’t do fan meets ( at least not in the US) but if you get certain floor seats you get to attend the sound check. I got to do this at Allegiant as well. Sat alone and made friends with all the Armys around me, gave out gifts and took pics together. After the show my friend and I shared a bbq table with two Armys we had just met. It felt like we were old friends- mind you these girls were literally 25 years younger than us. So, just a taste of the insane comraderie I have experienced because of BTS.💜
There's no way a rapper doesn't belive ppl think women's taste is bad... rap, hip hop specifically, is one of the most male dominated, misogynistic genres of music 😭
2 things. I suggested 2 songs to you before I heard your plan. Enjoy your Rap First journey. I never really liked rap until I heard BTS rap. I appreciated the talent and art, but it seemed the ones I heard were not lyrical and didn't change cadences. Do you know this? The rappers and singers sing and dance together. They incorporate rap into almost all their songs and performances. They do have some vocals only and solos. But every concert and MV and live performance has rap entertwined into most all the songs. That's why I like BTS's rap. It's so creative and conceptually designed into their songs. And every rap has its own rhythm and cadence and artful expression. It's Masterful! 2. A fun thing. Funmation...who used to do Goku's show and voice acting moved from Canada to Dallas,TX. I think they did start in Japan. Anyway, they advertised for open auditions. I went and actually auditioned for Goku's character and a female character. The first audition was in the sound booth. I passed that. Then I got to audition with other people doing live readings for the director. But I didn't go on. But still it was so cool to audition for that show. Do you know they make as much money as real actors sometimes even more because of residuals. Cartoons get played over and over. They get paid each time it airs. That's all. Journey on. Except that I stayed up late listening to your reactions and it actually saved my life. Someday I'll explain.
I have comeback (new song/album releases) parties at my house. Guests range in age from 15 to 63. We are different ethnicities, genders, and religions. We're like a microcosm of ARMY. We have a common interest and our differences don't matter.
As it should be. Your differences are your and our strengths. No one person is all things. Allowing for the differences to overlap allows for us to create a stronger whole.
27:25 Btw 😂😂😂😂 There are certain instances like in variety shows where bts (especially jin) threaten the hosts with army for fun... We armys get a kick out of it from time to time. One of the members will go "Oh I'm upset, I might post how upset I am on Instagram" 😂😂😂 You will start seeing the show hosts scramble and beg for mercy. That's just for fun tho. 😂 In reality bts are very humble and and they know their influence and thats exactly why their music contains so many good messages. And bts know we armys will take it to heart and apply it to life. That's what they do with the power. Also previously the bts members always stayed silent (except for in their music) about their mistreatment and the hate they got. But recently members are beginning to slowly open up and post on socials about getting back stabbed by people they trust. They are realising that finally they can open up about what they face especially with them going to the military and being free of Government pressure. Namjoon last week posted about how a monk at a Buddhist temple sold his private conversation details to the media. Armys obviously trended "monk" and "respect bts" in return. But in general bts has a huge sense of responsibility of fame... And that's why armys put our trust in them.
How old are you? You rap. Do you sing? How good is your dancing? Hybe will be having auditions in the U.S. to create an American style BTS. Hybe bought out Justin Beiber's managers managing company. I cant remember his name. I'll go look it up. It's Scooter Braun. They will hold auditions. Justin's manager will be managing the American Hybe group. Obviously they won't have the same rules as BTS. Do you want to audition for the group??? Start practicing NOW!!!
I’m an old man despite my youthful face. 😭😭 I would work with a entertainment company but I wouldn’t like to do the group thing. I used to dance and very well. Then I was hit by a car and now my knee and lower leg and femur have titanium additions that don’t allow the same range of motion so even if I wanted to do a hybe try out. I don’t bring enough auxiliary options. I rap and can sing a Little bit. With training my singing voice would be more like soul singers from the sixties like Leon bridges if you know him. I’m currently training my voice to sing more as I do a lot of writing for singing but can’t do those parts due to my voice not being strong enough to achieve what I’ve written and hear in my head. Currently my musical goals are independence and sustainable living. Past that I’ve matured to a place where the smoke and mirrors of superstardom no longer pull on my heart as they used to. Now i just want loyal supporters like BTS and to make music that impacts people and the ability to financially only make meaningful music and not have to sit at some desk job. They song snippet I shared in my shorts today or very much saying all of that.
@Jurnalist Good for you not to want to sit behind a desk. Yes. Pursue your dreams. You don't come off as an old man. So. To inspire you to go for the Gold. Not the illusive kind. The real inner gold. Watch this MV. Just by yourself. No reaction for us. One reason BTS is so amazing they really are inspiring. Their lyrics are inspiring. Watch their MV "Stay Gold". A little about me. I never finished college the first time around. But luckily I was able to get some great corporate jobs. But I did sit behind the desk. Without going into detail after 9 11 because of some jobs drying up. I moved back home. Joliet, IL near Chicago. And I found out I could get disability because I of my Clinical Depression. Luckily I had found a great doctor. Got on meds. Got therapy. Then I was fine. Went back to work. Could cope. But back at home a past dream of mine came back alive. I decided I want to go back to college and finish my degree I never finished a long time ago. With my disability Funds and student loans I went back to college at age 50. And I loved it. The first class I was required to take was Adult Learning Theory. As adults we learn differently. And I applied what I learned and got straight A'a except one math class. I graduated with a degree in English, Communication, and Theatre. I was able to pursue my love of acting. And I got to be in the Musicals. Interesting enough i discovered I excel at directing. The theatre had great classes to inspire me. The young kids I went to college with very accepting and loving. I became a mentor to all of them. Giving advice and sharing life lessons when they asked me. When I found BTS my creative "juices" started in again. I consider myself Army Plus. I would like to work for Hybe. And since they are here in the states now. You never know. I can tell you are ambitious, yet humble. You've discovered what is important in life. And are now enjoying that life. I have no doubt that accident changed your life and perspective. Don't let that titanium hold you back. I have titanium too. Both knees replaced. Successful Spinal stenosis surgery. I still dance. And choreograph. When I hear music I see the choreography in my mind. And when I hear music in the grocery store I dance down the aisle...to the embarrassment of my family. Actuslly they understand. They are all musical theatre people too. I want to share some reactors I love and follow. I think you would like them too. You don't know this but some reactors become friends. Invite each other to their live streams. One reactor interviews other reactors. I will tell him about you. His name is John Reeves. He is a Rock musician who accidentally found BTS. The other reactors are .... I'll get back to you. I have to check on spelling. Have a great 13th. Do you know why Jimin has 13 Tattooed on his body? And why 13 is lucky to all of BTS and Army? Find out. Today is a Lucky Day!!
and for their future i think they want to be known as artists. i dont think all of them want to dance as much they rather focus on the music so i think we will see more of that in the future. but no matter what they will never escape the Kpop stigma because all singers in kores are called kpop no matter what style of music they do. so korean R&B singers will never bee known in the US without the level of fame as BTS has. but i think J-hope has now been put in hip hop category on sportify so they are already beginning to branch out and i think that it will help them in the future.
FYI - No, ‘the little light thingy’, or Bangtan bomb costs $40…I have 3 I’m a huge Broncos fan and men are always ready to talk about football; however, I know it’s about understanding. My office is full of BTS merch & everyone is aware you don’t come into my office talking ish about BTS! I maintain my professionalism, I’ll just kick you out!!
I’m from Alabama and I caught flights to go to the LA as well as the Vegas show. And if they would have performed anywhere else in the states I would have been hopping more flights 😂😂😂😂💜💜💜💜
What would he say when he will learn that preorders for Hyundai Palisade ( which BTS endorsed ) surpassed 52K in Korea alone in 2 months after announcement?
@@Jurnalist_ mind that a price of one car was around 37-42K$. So yeah, these guys are incredible endorsments. About touring data info, u said about bundles: BTS used ticket bundles ( around 10K copies ) per their first stadium date ( Citifield ) in 2018 for Love Yourself:Answer album ( not like they even needed them since they outcharted #2 on BB 200 by impressive gap ) and NEVER EVER since then. They never really needed bundles, their pure sales were always good in US. Like they sold 917K copies of CDs according BB in this year
The crazy thing about BTS is that they had to work extra hard to get to where they are in the Western music industry, I'm talking about non-ARMY recognition, but they also had to work just as hard to even be excepted in the Korean music industry, mostly the Idol music platforms. It's been a constant battle from Day 1 ARMYs to where the fandom is 10 years later to have people take BTS seriously. It's exhausting, but so rewarding when people start giving them an honest chance. That's why I appreciate you, you listen with an open mind, you're willing to learn more about them so you can understand what the music is about and you don't say things just for the purpose of pleasing us.
I largely agree with this documentary as a long-term ARMY. However, as a male in the upper age bracket of the BTS fan base demographics I wish the creator hadn't so loosely used the words "stop being misogynistic". I have experienced years of push back against my investment in BTS from fellow males but never due to misogyny which literally defines as a hatred, contempt or prejudice against women. The mockery has mostly stemmed from things such as BTS suddenly appearing at the top as a corporately created boy band riding on looks as opposed to being real artists, an image of androgyny which is not a comfortable male image to engage, a fan base basically comprised of young females, BTS being Korean "boys" as opposed to men, not wanting to engage the Korean language, BTS mostly releasing trivial pop songs, amongst others. I have experienced toxic masculinity but never misogyny which is a powerful and despicable philosophy. BTS once spoke of the consequences of the devaluing the concept of anger. I think in the just fight against misogyny knee jerking to loose use of the word when triggered similarly devalues the power of the word in the fight for equality. Yes, males have to figure out how to be comfortable with a fanbase which only now is becoming a bit more gender diverse, but care needs to be used when employing as heinous a term as misogyny as a descriptor unless appropriate. Hopefully ARMY will remember how damaging misplaced use of this word was when BTS released War of Hormone and Danger. By escalating ascriptions to their worst possible meaning, one devalues the efficacy use of the word in the fight to comprehend and smooth out the gender divide.
@Jurnalist her vids are great as well. It'll give you more of an idea of how BTS has grass root growth. It'll also provide an understanding of how true their relationship is as a band and brothers.
Another interesting take ruclips.net/video/Uaj1X76h2mQ/видео.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE A Korean academic’s presentation on Korean popular tv… the panel is quite cringy in places but the content is interesting enough to make them bearable… it’s a bit intellectual but then so is BTS really 😊💜
I appreciate your comments and questions during these reaction videos. It shows your interest, and I thought your question about packaged plane and concert tickets was funny. No way, you are on your own. LOL Also backstage meet and greets, no more, they did that early on. 33:06 of this video they were showing a piece of a documentary that was released by BANGTANTV produced by HITMAN Bang (CEO) for BTS ON track. If you could bundle a reaction with the ON MV and the documentary that would be great! I truly think this is something that you would enjoy. They used the UCLA Marching band on the track and interviewed the folks involved including producers, the choir and more. I have included the links below to the MV and documentary. BTS ON Kinetic Manifesto Film ruclips.net/video/gwMa6gpoE9I/видео.html and ON Documentary: Dialog ruclips.net/video/npfs6afvIhk/видео.html In addition, my gut feeling is that BTS would have been an R&B group, and this is MY opinion only. In part for the major influence of R&B that you hear in their early discography and the music that they are making now in some of the solo projects. Just as you said, I would love to see that one day. 💜
The best! A BG for a wife would be a mad time. 😂😂 Enjoy the read. I highly recommend the prequel and sequel works. I started at the beginning and went in chronological order.
@@Jurnalist_ Fr it'll be like kinda having your own Jedi 😂 I didn't even realise Dune is a trilogy until the other day 💀 it's slow going but sounds great so far!
Lol...Keith Richards comments got me! Love the Stones!!! About the Academy, they only put them in K pop categories. I think this year J-Hope broke the K pop category curse. Not sure what it's under. I do agree that Legends is fitting! You have a Lovely Evening...✌💜
You asked about the R&B section... they could but I don't think they will since they generally don't like to make albums with only one genre of music. Mainly because each member has their own style and they like to include their songs in their albums. BUT V or Taehyung is actually releasing his solo album sometime this year (his first single comes out at the end of this month!) and he has been known as the resident "soul" of the vocal line. He loves jazz music and old R&B and all of his solo songs are typically R&B or Ballads. Soooooooo I'm gonna bet money that his solo album will mainly be R&B and I CANNOT FREAKING WAIT because that's my favorite genre of music right there. (he's also my favorite vocalist of BTS for this reason) :) Also, I emailed you a roadmap of their best group songs (and the vocalist line's solos), so if you don't already have one feel free to use that one!
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They DONT cry when they lose! EVER! That clip has to be seen in context. They actually just won an award! All of them cried about what Jin said. They were having such a stressful year they considered disbanding. Everyone was crying. All of BTS. All of Army boohooing. Jin's speech was brilliant and very vulnerable! You'll hear it someday!! There is a whole video about all the hardships they've endured!
I’ll be getting to the BTS hardships video soon.
To be clear...we don't know if they've cried for loosing an award or not for you to say they DONT cry when they loose. Sh1t its only human if they do when they have a disappointment like any other human that worked hard! So they may have behind close doors, but they haven't allowed us fans to see that over not winning an award.
It was so powerful when RM said in the Vegas concert. “We didn’t come for Grammy, we came for Army” I literally cried …and instead of crying for not winning the Grammy, they used Grammy venue as their overflow live play venue. What a flex. Who needs who!! Army only wants a Grammy because Suga wants it 😅
@Krystal Livingston you are correct. I have never seen them cry on screen. On a v live. At a concert. At an award show.
For losing. However. They could in private. I just thought the video said they cried when losing at an award show. And yes, they are very human. Thank you for pointing that out.
No package deal, no bundles! We pay for flights, hotels, tickets, parties, restaurant all separately! I flew to LA from Canada last year. My friend flew to London in 2019 from USA! ARMY can manage to secure tickets in ANY BTS show and we pack our bags and go! 💜
You have the opportunity to purchase all the special things like the dinners, the rooms w/merch, etc, but not as a bundle. Each purchase is it's own competition ;)
totally agree, now armys have 2 years to save and plan for a blast to shock the world once again 💜
I don't care which part of her world we gotta fly! When next concert is announced and IF I survive Hunger Games and can get tickets, I'm going there! My 🇨🇦💜 group already preparing for our group trip! 🥰💜
@@MrsTOH2O same. No matter where gonna be the next concert, I’m going! Even if I have to sell my car for it lol
I watched a video from a Mexican ARMY who was lucky enough to get a ticket for the Busan concert and she didn't have a visa and no time to get it, and she was like buckit I'm going to Korea and if they don't let me in well I just come back and that's that, she was lucky they gave her a like 5 days emergency permit or something like that and she could stay for the concert.
Nah, XCeleste would never rack on BTS. She's widely recognised as one of the go-tos in the fandom because of her vast knowledge and great content. Still hoping you'll react to her BTS Hardships 2013-2021 video... 😉
Dude.. This are actually facts. Historically, Generally anything women liked or loved was considered inferior. Until men liked the same thing. Then, Then it became, significant, important, tangible. Its ridiculous.
If it ended up becoming special but women found it first. I still see the women who found it as who made it special. Just because enough dudes say it’s okay doesn’t change the fact these women said it first and actively pushing the narrative that yes women did x first but then men said okay is actively working against those who deserve to be championed so I do not participate in the women found it and men made it cool. No women found it and when they did that’s when it was cool. Until that’s the flow anything else is just continuing the narrative of well yea they did it first but it didn’t become special until a man said it and I don’t think that’s accurate.
It works the other way around, too.
Men wore higheels. When women began to wear them as a sign of strength and emancipitation? it was discarded by men.
Also true for dancing - ballett specifically - cheerleading, figure skating etc. once women came in and succeeded at the very top - the interest by men went down.
@@Jurnalist_ I think the bigger argument here is about value about how men or male dominated media/society viewed the Beatles when the debuted. Of course they were very special, top-selling, number one on the charts, etc, but their Fanbase was “screaming teenage girls”. Their value as musical artists wasn’t as high until they became popular more with men rather than predominantly young women.
@@ruthfischer7615 Same thing with make up it was original for extremely rich men eg kings and princes then the women joined. Then it was though if a woman wore make up she must be harlot. Later most women wore make up and men gave it up. Now ignorant men say oh look he's got make up on he's a girl or he's gay etc etc mmmm men wore make up long before we women did. Not that I really wear make up myself unless it's for a very special occasion.
@@eileencritchley4630 Exactly! 👍
I mean, why do we even devalue a teenager's love for music? Why is a teenager's love for something considered worth less than an adult's love for something? It's both love even if it looks different. And teenagers may not share your age, but they are humans just like everyone else. They are not worth less and yet we put them down them like this.
Because of apathy and being jaded.
A big ethos I have is never forget what age you were.
But as many adults do all the time they forget what it meant to be x age so when a teenager says something or a child they instantly devalue the opinion.
Doing so is reductive and stupid.
This also happens as our global society is built on capitalism. If you don’t have a financial input your verbal input is devalued. So kids and teens with no money might as well be ghost. Do I agree with this thinking no but I understand how it persist.
25:42 “You’ll like BTS music if you listen without prejudice.” -SUGA
Hard facts
This was much needed today. You asked what BTS is gonna do with the passion and loyalty of fans? Well we've been trying to convince them to form their own country with Namjoon (who is frequently referred to as President/Mr. President) as the leader ever since an army suggested it on a live stream years ago.
😂😂😂 where we getting this land?
@@Jurnalist_
From the British 😂
Don't they got a lot of islands unnecessarily? 😂😂😂
@@Jurnalist_ we even got our passports and flag already designed lol
@@Jurnalist_ idk but the name is Boraland and the capital city is Namkanda! 🙃
@@WE__BTS namkanda 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I flew out to vegas for their concert last year (I live on the atlantic side of the country) and spent willingly nearly 6000$ getting to and spent in Vegas, they have no bundles or packages for "VIP Concert" except for sound checks even then it's super affordable (floor tickets with sound check are around 400$ at most). They did have the BoraFestival (set up by HYBE / BTS with the city iteself) for the town where Vegas basically spent 2 weeks celebrating ARMY and having restaurants serve korean foods, stores and some hotels had discounts, the boys favourite foods were being served under specials and in the hotels they had free gifts that were bts themed. There was even post concert nightclub parties that were BTS themed. Worth. Every. Penny. BTS loves ARMY and we felt it for those 2 weeks.
The PTD concerts in Las Vegas were insane. Hybe partnered with the city to provide BTS experiences throughout the strip - we called this Borahaegas. It included special menus, hotel packages, etc. but we had to purchase everything separately. BTS used to have meet and greets but now the closest “extra” you can get is Soundcheck, but the availability is very limited.
That’s very sad that they don’t offer fan meet and greets anymore. They took Vegas over for real that’s great to hear most artist could never do that.
@@Jurnalist_ BTS have never done meet & greets related to concerts (to the best of my knowledge). However, BTS used to host fan-signs that lucky armys would win by lottery raffle. You had to have an army membership and could submit your name for a chance to attend an event if you bought their album (from korea) that they were promoting at the time of the event (this did not apply to albums purchased from the US market because that would be considered bundling). It was open to armys all over the world, but the fan-signs themselves where in Korea.
A fan-sign included being in the room with the guys who would sit at the front of the room behind a long table. You’d waiting in line for your turn, and had an opportunity to chat with each member while they signed a page in a copy of your album. Armys often would bring letters & gifts to the members too. There’s tons of footage of these interactions online.
BTS haven’t done a fan-sign since the album Map of the Soul: Persona (released April 2019). This is because when Map of the Soul 7 released (Feb 2020), covid hit and government restrictions prevent such gatherings. Restrictions have lighten up since mid-2022, but that’s when the group started their Chapter 2.
Boracity magazine creates essay videos that are well-researched. As a 40-year old ARMY and for someone who's been in the fandom for years, I can attest that ARMY is truly diverse. 💜 We're not "crazy" but instead we're passionate in giving our support to BTS (from buying of concert tickets, albums and merchandise, to voting in Awards shows). Was able to attend their recent concert in Busan. Though tickets were 'free' since it was used as promotion to help South Korea's government bid to organize World Expo 2030, ARMY paid for own expenses like flights, hotels, merchandise, etc... Had a blast and was happy to meet ARMY coming from various countries. 😊 BTS concerts don't have bundles.
The crazy thing is, it doesn't matter what they submit under, the industry still just places them in the k pop umbrella. Look at Indigo, full of 10 different genres of music, still classified as k pop.
this is why sometimes Army are hated on by Kpoppies because some of us would say BTS is not Kpop but we do it not because of arrogance but we do it because it's a stifling box for the boys that the music industry keeps putting them in.
This!!! I swear when I saw that indigo was named the best kpop album of 2022 by I think that was billboard or rolling stone? firstly I was happy in the sense that it came out in the last month of the year and achieved this but then cmon KPOP? that beautiful album has different nice and enjoyable genre's. Just because he or some of his collaborators sings or raps in Korean and are from Korea doesn't mean the album he created is kpop. Kpop is soooooo different from this masterpiece together with Jack in the box, same thing.
The world is absolutely not ready for 2025!!!! Goosebumps just thinking about it
It’s up and it’s stuck. 😤
I got a lot of competition for these tickets!!!!
@@lifeofchile I opened a saving account just for this when we got the enlistment news back in October ! I am definitely financially ready to buy whatever ticket concert and plane ticket wherever the venue is on the face of this earth! Ain't NO WAY I'm missing that Avengers Endgame like comeback😭
Praying that by that time Big Hit figures out a way to develop their own ticketing system because F* ticketmaster 😂 and the stadiums are already too small today like in Vegas they already had to have the viewing at the screen at MGM while being at Allegiant and the 4 nights were packed... so by 2025??? The size of the fandom will be problematic for sure😂
i have to disagree with the statement "the ladies first" because i am highly ridiculed by my family for liking BTS; and it was the same for justin bieber. men often see our tastes and passion for something as a "craze" they make fun of us for liking what we like while theirs is encouraged and applauded. so yes, the beatles started to be "cool" because men started to like them, it's not even a joke, it's a fact
He missed the point that the issue is misogyny and ageism, not saying who the trendsetters are. We *know* women are the most powerful trendsetters. The reality is that those trends aren't considered worthy until men give them recognition. Since he doesn't have to deal with that treatment every day, maybe it just didn't occur to him. I'm just waiting to see if he believes it exists. There are a lot of people who say misogyny isn't real and women are just trying to play the victim. Men who know history and educate themselves about what the patriarchy has done to women are still in short supply, but that is a necessity for anyone who wants anything to do with ARMY. 😅
I’m sorry you saying this is actively participating in the removal of what women do first in my opinion. Just because public opinion shifts to said artist being deemed cool. Doesn’t mean they weren’t cool before. When those women said this is the next guy or gal or band or whatever it was cool the moment those women rallied behind it. No matter if they are ridiculed or disregarded. The true taste makers that found it early or first were women. This is why I say men help shift the tide sure but the ladies will and have forever picked what was cool. 🤷🏾♂️
@@Jurnalist_ if you are responding to me then , i can assure you , you did not say anything different from what i said. i'm well aware that we have amazing taste. i surely did not wait for a man to tell me that something is awesome before actually believing it. i put the word cool in "" exactly because of that. what i'm trying to expose here is the shift of the tide like you said. because i find it unfortunate that men have to hop on the bandwagon (sometimes, far too late) for it to become acceptable especially in the media. and that's the point the video was trying to make. WE KNOW ITS COOL but the GENERAL PUBLIC, THE MEDIA and the ENTIRE MALE POPULATION have to state it before we stopped being called hysterical and crazy. that's our reality.
@@ma-px1nb yeah, that's exactly it😂 We have no doubt about our tastes. We love cool stuff and it doesn't need validation.
@@ma-px1nb Okay I get your point but I still don't like that narrative but you are not wrong. But I think allowing the media and xyz to be the final nail in the its cool factor is my issue. So I choose to focus on who found it first as the alternative is like giving Columbus credit for finding America like it didn't exist before that man said here it is.
I'd like to point out that most of BTS' recent releases are widely critically acclaimed; the way BTS is perceived is not linked to their sound or music but to the stigma behind boybands
Very true.
The light sticks are called ‘Army Bombs” which cost $60. it has its own app and they connect with Bluetooth depending what section you sit in a concert to it can create pretty light shows and words
The thing I know about being a BTS fan is: BTS may say they are going on vacation/hiatus and you think as a fan, I'm going to rest up, and 2 weeks later, we are getting alerts in the middle of the night, saying something is about to drop. I haven't gotten sleep since I've been ARMY. I think there will be a couple of dry times, they are in the military, (Maybe a month) during the two years but honestly, those boys love to surprise ARMY when we aren't expecting anything. FYI: ARMY Bombs are $65. Do not buy them on Amazon, or you'll get an expensive flashlight with a ball, that looks like an ARMY bomb. You must order from BT21 or Weverse Shop. This will ensure that you are getting you ARMY Bomb with all the connections you need to light up the biggest stadium.
I flew with my husband from Vancouver, Canada, to Las Vegas in April last year to their concert at Allegiant Stadium. There's no package deal. We paid for the tickets, airfares, and hotel accommodations separately. It was expensive but it's so worth it. I met a lady from Indonesia who flew to LA for all 4 concerts at the Sofi Stadium in Dec of 2021, and she went to all 4 concerts in Las Vegas in April of 2022. A lot of BTS ARMY have good disposable income, and they don't mind spending it to support BTS.
I don’t consider BTS as just K-pop. I consider them as music artists who do many genres. I think the western music industry wants them and tries very hard to keep them in the K-pop niche so that they can keep them out of the major categories in award shows and to politic them to be remained them in the K-pop category. Let’s face it racism has always existed and how the industry worked that out is to create other categories like r&b, latin, and now K-pop. In my opinion they create certain categories to keep people out rather than giving recognition, acceptance and inclusion.
My interpretation of what she said about the Beatles is that they didn’t get the critical acclaim until men started liking them. The Beatles craze started with screaming teenage girls but got legit when men begin to appreciate their music.
Hedy Lamar helped the US government create the sonar system during WWII.
I just paid 100$ for cinema tickets to watch the Busan yet to come concert that I ALREADY watched FOR FREE. I’m driving AN HOUR away to watch it. I just joined an ARMY book club that I found on IG and I’m in an ARMY gc where we text each other everyday and we make sure we’re ok and we keep each other updated on BTS related topics. We are like a small society. And about waiting 2 years for them to come back, they’ve been putting out cine y for us every week since they announced their break. Jimin literally had a song coming out tomorrow. I would wait 50 years if I had to. We have schedules up until 2039 when BTS will open up their Time Capsule box that’s in the national museum of Korean Contemporary History
💯!
I dunno - I'd go farther than 2039.... We want to see them all fat and creaky surrounded by their grandkids and joking about how they've become the Bangtan Harabojis. 🤣🤣🤣
I won't make it, but I'll always have that image in my purple heart. 💜
Hahaha those "little lights" are worth $$ because of the interaction you feel at the show or at home. Because of the Bluetooth tech, we can not only pair it up at the concert according to our seat assignment, but at home we can also pair it with BTS' company app while we watch music videos or concerts at home. Holding something that feels like I'm part of the immersive experience of the show, becomes a symbol of the fandom and the connection that BTS has with ARMY and vice versa.
That’s it. It’s immersive and that connectivity is the key to what makes it worth it.
@@Jurnalist_ depends on where you're from and where you're buying. I got mine from bts's official store on weverse and it hardly cost me over £50, whereas I saw them selling for £80-£90 on Amazon, always buy from bts's official shop and it will be cheaper.
Check it out my guy...They (BTS & Bang PD) have always wanted to change the concert experience for fans. Behind the scenes they prepare just as long and hard for the literal "concert experience" as the guys prepare for their performances on stage. Cities know that when BTS come to their town it's gonna be MASSIVE. The company set up "popup" merchandise stores throughout the city in addition to the merch trailers at the venue, small, temporary BTS museums that display their history, etc. Cities light their buildings in purple at night, clubs have BTS night, hotels have special BTS themed rooms in addition to their normal room rentals, restaurants around the venue add Korean cuisine to their menus during this time. Las Vegas renamed their city "Borahegas" for those few days. It is an ENTIRE BTS concert experience. It is fantastic and insane (in a good way) all at the same time. If you were not lucky enough to snag tickets to the stadium, you can (for a cheaper price) get tickets to a nearby arena or large theatre where the concert is broadcasted live or buy online live stream concert tickets. It is an entire BTS City Festival and not just a concert.
It's their way of remembering and thanking the fans AND it makes them and the city more money.
BTS NEVER forget their fans.
From boracity “the next bts “ is a very well put video and it’s currently what we armys r seeing and dealing with… its a good video to watch!!
Also Aneesa has put back The Rise of Bangtan videos back on RUclips so u can react and watch them direct from the channel and show some love to her series directly!!!
Here’s the link to the channel :
youtube.com/@TheRiseOfBTS
Are the videos back? Just checked a few hours ago, but all videos completely deleted. Was very dissapointed when I learned about this. 😔
When/where did she say she'd put it back? The channel still seems empty and there's not been any update on the official twitter as far as I can see.
I really hope it's actually happening though, I kinda figured she wasn't going to complete it fully, but seeing it go completely was such a shame since
the parts we got still holds so much value. :(
youtube.com/@TheRiseOfBTS heres the link to the channel
I just noticed that channel yesterday. It looks like another army created a new channel to upload all the videos. So far I think only the chapters are uploaded. I haven't seen any bonus content or deleted scenes on that new channel. I am honestly just glad there will be a place I can go back to watch them. 💜
True… i am not 100% sure as well if it is from aneesa herself but honestly at this point i m glad its just there for everyone to access
I bought my ARMY Bomb (BTS light stick) for about $49 plus tax and shipping 2 yrs ago. Now it costs $59 (not incl. tax & S&H) for special edition, not $130, on Weverse Shop.
Can someone more knowledgeable than me bring up how instead of including BTS in standard categories like R&B etc, they went opposite and decided to create a separate forum? Was it kpop billboards?
As an OG BTS ARMY I can tell you that we fought against the K-pop stigma for years. I think we had just about won the war in 2018 and 2019. You didn’t see them referred to as K-pop as much in the global media. October 2018 was when all of the K-poppies banded together and kicked us out of Kpop because they were jealous which was great bc that’s what we wanted . That was when we decided to form our own country and call it Namkanda with Namjoon as our President. Things changed with the pandemic and the huge influx of fans who had not been around long and who embraced the K-pop label. There are a lot of new BTS fans who have taken the time to learn the history and know the music but many just wanted to jump on the bandwagon of the biggest group in the world. They like fighting other fans and being obnoxious but they don’t know anything about what BTS stands for. Because they don’t know the difference between artists who write their own music and work for years shedding blood sweat and tears over it and KpOp which is manufactured for the most part and whose artists only pretend to write lyrics.
Anyway it’s hard for long time BTS fans because Hybe was in the past few years built on the talent of BTS and the hard work of ARMY. The new corporation that was built now has it as its mission to spread K-pop around the world. So even though BTS is the farthest thing in the world from K-pop we may be stuck with the label. There are so many great Korean artists like the ones on RM’s album Indigo who are not K-pop. I don’t know which is more corrupt, Kpop or the US music industry. I only know that BTS is honest and it makes for a difficult but also exhilarating journey.
yes instead of including them in best song or artist of the year they create “favorite kpop artist” or “best kpop song”
He just needs to keep watching more Boracity. She covers touches on that in the "BTS vs attendance award shows" video.
(Basically, Boracity is doing the maximum. I'm so proud of ARMY!)
"My conclusion is... Grow up" that caught me off guard 🤣
😂😂😂 I don’t what I said.
Imagine if he saw how Vegas turned into Borahaegas. I'm sure there's a video out there that covered everything. It was WILD! Locals said they had never seen anything like it. Airlines, TSA tweeting at us😂😂
They are mostly considered a pop act but it's very recent. Their performance at the 2022 Grammys, which I recommend for you to watch, left a deep impression on the industry, and after that, we could feel a certain shift with even the Grammys themselves. Grammys x BTS is really a story that dates back since 2018, and every year this institution found a way to snub them, including in 2022, but after their performance, I wouldn't say the Grammys accept them but definitely there is a change, as they are now considered more of a pop act than a k-pop act. BTS went from one Grammy nomination per year to suddenly 3 nominations for the 2023 Grammys.
Indigo is such a Grammy worthy album, but after 2022, BTS kind of gave up and didn't expect much from the Grammys, so J-Hope didn't even bother to submit his album, especially since you have to kiss asses to be considered and BTS isn't inclined to do that, but since they were nominated 3 times for the 2023 Grammys out of nowhere, I hope Namjoon will attempt to submit his work this year for the 2024 Grammys for hip-hop category, or even R&B because his album is deserving but I don't know if he will.
Also, the others are going to release their albums too, I have no doubt it will be good, and I hope they give it a go for the Grammys, I just wonder what genre they will go for.
So overall, BTS is an act more consider pop than k-pop but it's only very recent.
I think she's totally right when she spoke about The Beatles : They grew in success and popularity because of their women fan. But they start to be recognized as great musiciens, and legends by the media and the general public only when men comes to love them too. Because we live in a patriarcal society, dude, and you can't denied this. Same with BTS: most people don't want to listen to their music, and give it a try , they don't take them seriously because they think we just are "hormonal teenage screaming girls" that faint in front of a beautiful asian boysband. That's suck, really ! Army is so diverse in gender, age, ethnicity, sexuality, social or economical "class"... For me, I'm a 58 years old woman, a writer and a lawyer, and even if I think BTS are the most hanssome men on earth, it's not what attracted me to them and made me an Army. I'm able to make the difference between good music, deep lyric and artistry, and the bullshit that I hear all day on the radio and it will be great if more people would open their closed mind, and listen to BTS music without prejudice.
NOta : XCeleste is not a haters Lol ! She is a OG Army and she made very informative video about BTS and Army : you see his name on this video because Boracity magazine use short clips from his video ;
Ll cool j the Beatles Drake. The stones Led Zeppelin. Any band or artist with meaningful or massive success never have a majority of a male fan base. Do we live in a patriarchy sure. But those ruling men still want and need women. So again why men wear beards or listen to certain artist is due to the strong and magnetic influence of these women. Women will pick a thing and then men will act like they found it all on their own. It’s a documented fact throughout history but also in music.
Why women pick what they do is very hard for me as a man to pin down but from my experience plus what I’ve gleamed from music research. The women make and or break you when it comes to selection and or destruction I.E cancel Culture. Despite being a patriarchal society these efforts are in my opinion always lead by women and bolstered by men’s participation. So women make you famous and can take it away and the faster both of these happen is the participation of men but that participation is secondary to the selection women have already made.
@@Jurnalist_ all of that does not negate the fact that men will look down on what women are attracted to at first. it's not until they have something to gain from it like you said ( attraction, validation from us) that they will start actually giving it a try and taking a liking to it. but before they try, for them, it's "girl stuff". that's where the unfairness comes from for me. and when we take the example of drake, there's A LOT of men that where fans since the beginning, because of his hip-hop influence. although he was addressing songs to the ladies it was very much from a "male prospective" he was no RnB singer like mario and such. there is some truth in what you're saying but our experience is the proof that we are still being ridiculed at first.
@@Jurnalist_ you're not getting it. What you say is true, but the most important part is when you say "bolstered by men's participation". That "bolstering" is the catalyst that validates things in society. Men "participate" when they can no longer ignore that something is good and there to stay - then they appropriate it as you say. _*This is not a collaborative process*_! All this time, women and girls are disparaged as silly, hormonal beings who can't look at things with any discernment or objectivity, and certainly not as curators of excellence bringing things to men's attention.
We deal with this every day. It is real. You need to insert it into your largely accurate but incomplete narrative.
@@ma-px1nb Not saying it negates it but I also will not or choose not to play into those narratives and rigid frames of thinking.
You are right the unfairness is paramount and not right and shouldn't even be apart of the do you like it or not.
I can tell you in America if you are around late 20s early 30s and a man you are apart of a small 1% who were on his side prior to his glo up. But the rest of men only started rocking with bro after every time you wanted to link a bird she was playing his music and was not listening to no one else.
again playing into women found it first and its a girl thing but now I've heard it enough I like it.
I agree his perspective was male but he came out with that perspective when men as a whole were not being that open with how we feel. Drake pushed that tide and now king toxic (Future) is able to do what he does in his love songs.
I hope you don't think I'm trying to disregard that women are ridiculed first before being heralded as the bastions of the discovery. I more so am trying to say I look at that dynamic and give credit to the women because without you all nothing spins.
@@Jurnalist_ yes i get your point of views and to be honest i'm not very knowledgeable about drake's career. 😂
Just saying the free concert they did last Oktober with 100k people had just over 50 Million viewers in their Livestream, even If we crashed the site multiple times
That’s mental.
The clips from Xceleste were from her vid of BTS hardships. You can react to that if you want.
Agree! Highly recommend XCeleste video about BTS Hardships and Struggles. It will give a deeper understanding on why ARMY is super protective of BTS.
The light sticks (ARMY Bomb) is expensive but has Bluetooth capability. You put you seat number for a concert into the app, & then a program will control the light colour changes to beat & spell out messages across the stadium. Some of their music videos now also can be linked to the light stick for a light show. Well worth the money they cost 💜
That is actually super super super dope. I was going to use more swear words in my response but text doesn’t convey tone so I just used super a lot. 😂🤷🏾♂️
That wasnt xceleste saying that, boracity was using this clipped compilation from the bts hardships video
Okay I was like she’s talking spicy about gang. Y’all sure you want me to watch her still😂😂
you are so real for disliking beer. people say "you just never had good beer" - idc. if i gotta look for good beer, maybe it just sucks
Facts. I’ve also had great beers still rather have spirit’s or water over a good beer or a great one. But a free beer good or bad might get drunk. 😂😂
11:22 What she’s referring to is beer brewing, not beer drinking. Brewers used to be exclusively women, and beer brewing was considered women’s work. When men saw how much women were profiting from this, they squeezed women out of the industry, and it’s now considered a male realm. This change over was during the 16-17 centuries btw😅
Is that right now. This is a gem of a comment I never in life have seen a female brewer in old times. See them all the time in modern era but never knew it was the ladies making the Meade. 😂😂
@@Jurnalist_ my country is famous for it's beer. My city was a wine city.
Who made beer than when it was not actuallly sold in pubs etc.?
Women brewed beer at home every morning for the family/breakfast - why?
did you know that there was no water filtering but people threw their trash and other stuff into the water? Beer was healthier and women mixed personal recips than.
It's actually very interesting the history of different stuff.
What surprised me was you seemed to recognize Hedy Lamarr. I am older army and I love BTS. I have always been interested in hearing new music and they have opened up a whole new worid for me. Enjoyed your reaction. See you soon.🥰🥰🥰💜
I know hedy and all the powerful black women history and media has tried to have us forget. This is why I said I couldn’t think of the other ladies name who isn’t hedy who we sometimes accredit the invention of gps and Wi-Fi and voice mail to.
Their solo albums as well as earlier albums have done tallies on R&B and rap charts. But western award commitees tend to stick them only in the Group or Kpop categories. K-pop categories were created when BTS started to win the Western awards to keep BTS out of the major categories. That's why their win for Artist of the year at last year's AMAs was such a huge deal, it was the first time they were recognized along side the other big players.
For the Grammy's they can submit for those categories, but they may get push back from others who don't want to see them that way.
34:00 omg that's just what I thought if outsiders thought bts numbers and achievements are already incredible I can't wait for 2025 I'm sure the world will be blown away multiplefold... as an army, a 2 year rest to plan and save money for bts' 2025 comeback album and merch and tours is just what we need to support the Tannies with everything we've got 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
and we don't even get much of a "rest" bc of solo releases and pre-recorded content. The tannies keep getting new fans everyday and those people have so much back catalog to check out that it won't even feel like a long wait for them and if folks think bts is big now, by the time we get 2025... oh damn the world will not be ready lol
I would also consider them a majority R&B Hip-Hop group. We have been discussing genres in relation to RM’s last album, which they considered Kpop when it’s really not. But then again what is it?
Quality. But quality needs no label.
@@Jurnalist_ ARMY were debating why not include RM as a rap album. I do believe they want to sideline them with kpop bc otherwise BTS would win so many more awards.
I did appreciate your comment about the western music industry wanting to keep out foreign acts bc the western artists lack in artistry. They are not globally competitive. Once you really delve into BTS world and understand all of who they are, there are NO OTHER artists like them.
It's music. Just fine being music I guess :)
Suga even said, we havent even peeked yet!! When they Come back from the military its gonna be 🤯🤯🤯
In the meanwhile we get solo projects, enough content to keep us settisfied... We can rewatch more than 150 Run Bts episodes, so its all good!!
And in these years they away, still People will check m out, and more People will become Army 💪💪
The future is bright, and i am looking forward to that 👌👌💜💜
Yes.... 2025, no more "the boys" all change to "the gentlemen" or.... do you have a better term/name?
The Mandem is for sure the natural next phase. 😂🤷🏾♂️
@@charach7855 as they said in the amazon interview "the bangtan papas" :)
those lights are called Army Bombs and you sync it up with the lights at the show so they automatically change color
How do they synch?
BTS doesn't do bundles, you can purchase VIP tickets that will give you soundcheck, but there is nothing extra other than that.
No backstage meet and greet I can buy?
@@Jurnalist_ no
@@Jurnalist_ If you know the right people, you might be able to meet them after the show, but it isn't a ticket thing as far as I can tell
@@Jurnalist_ They don't do them at concerts. I think those are mainly done as a separate event, and it's raffled. They are also more of an intimate setting, like only 200 people, and they have millions of fans, so that makes it almost impossible to get to meet them. But they make up for it with online livestreams with ARMY's. They answer questions on their stream, and you can leave them messages on Weverse, which is their social media platform.
@Jurnalist They used to do those, but only very early in their career. They haven't done meet and greets or fansigns in awhile now.
Yeah I'm glad you brought the kpop thing RM and SUGA used to look down on kpop that when they debuted they debuted and introduced themselves as a hiphop group who dance and sings and growing up they kept having a conflict of who they are suga said in agustd that his size is bigger than kpop bts concider themselves as btspop and as artists who make art and they hate when people label them in a genre because they do everything even though kpop isn't a genre but an industry in idol a song they released in 2018 at the beginning RM said "you can call me idol(kpop idol) you can call me artist I don't care" in dayunisus suga said born an idol and reborn as an artist but in interviews they say they are their own genre and they do what they want specially this few years they don't do much of kpop industry shit anymore
Army Bombs. Warning. Warning. When traveling especially on airplanes
Do NOT call them bombs!! The Army were warned. Lights. They're BTS lights.
This is a big tip especially in todays world.
lightsticks are sold around $32 from official stores, shipping could be expensive depending which country but the device itself is only $32.
8:25 No, the price depends on multiple factors. It's easy enough to get a BTS lightstick for around 50 dollars.
BTS has so many genres in their albums .
RM: As kpop is becoming bigger we should have some debates. What is Kpop? For our “Dynamite,” we sang the whole lyrics for the first time in English and that hit number one (Billboard). So some might say that this is not Kpop because you guys all sang in English. But what’s Kpop? We just don’t want to limit this music or our hearts to this boundary called “Kpop.”
for a lot of kpop groups being associated with kpop wave can be profiting cuz it gives them exposure
at this point in the career of bts though this label only restricts them and is used as a way to limit their reach. it's a categorization based solely on the nationality. even bts' english songs whiten by western people will be put in kpop playlists only or nominated for kpop categories only
look, a simple example. My Universe is collab song Coldplay x BTS. and i heard that Coldplay were writing this song just for BTS but then they all collectively decided to make it a collaboration. and just think about it that way: if it had been sung just by BTS it'd have been categorized as k-pop. but now that it's a collab, it falls under pop or alternative lol
I don't believe K-Pop is a genre, it's the name for the Korean IDOL system of music. Withing the KPOP industry is many different genre's. BTS has transcended the KPOP category. They are just amazing musicians.
They did Meet and Greet in the very beginning when they weren't famous! I don't think Army had to pay. They had to quit when they started getting famous.
They should still do it. I think even if it’s for a select number
Here is the challenge with a Meet and Greet today. Those people would all have to go through a serious security background check. What you dont know. BTS has been living with death threats from the beginning. They still have to deal with haters. Haters who spread horrible disrespectful rumors. Those haters could possibly pass a security background check and "Get In" and be near them and cause big problems! When they leave and arrive at airports they are completely surrounded by body guards. Their vehicle is surrounded by body guards. The fans and paparazzi swarm them ! I think there should be a law for all Celebrities you CAN'T be within 25 feet of them at airports. Its so dangerous. You can watch. There are live watch cameras waiting for them for hours. The body guards have to push all fans and media trying to touch them and get their cameras in their face. Sometimes...I think it happened at L.A. they had to leave through a private exit. It got that bad! Luckily, they get to meet their celebrity fans at award shows. And they get to meet the celebrities they want to. And they do meet and greet with celebrities and their families before and after concerts. They enjoy that. I promise you they won't have Meet and Greets ever again! They can't go shopping. VERY RARELY. JK sang for the opening of the FIFA games. He shopped at a mall in Dubai surrounded by his staff and under cover security so it didn't look so obvious. The store has to know ahead of time because the store has to be cleared of everyone so he could shop without being swarmed. But here is something cute. Two little girls wandered up to the front door of the store. JK saw them and talked to them and allowed them to be in a picture with him.
About the genre thing: their song Butter was a english single just Like Dynamite, I think I am not the only one who still doesn't know how it got nominated in the kpop category by some shows and Pop in others, Like make it less obvious that you made that category just so they wont be in the main ones
Racism. They are Asian so put them with the other Asians. It’s a short path to the answer imo. Sad to say but it’s just racism.
The thing is its hard to say BTS is kpop when their success is in large part because of the different way they do things, in my opinion one of the many reasons you cant say bts ist JUST kpop, because they have sooo many differences to the "standard kpop way"
It’s quite fun to listen to these video essays with you, I always envied ppl who can articulate their thoughts well😆
It’s just practice arguing with people. I’m real fun at parties. 😂😂
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No beef with Xceleste, she's an ARMY
The clips that showcase her name are from her own BTS information vids, this one is from their hardships video, I believe
However, the girl in the clip is just........ 😤😒 Well, you get the picture lol smh
I love all boracity magazine contents, hopefully will be BTS vs awards show ..always nice to hear you thoughts thank you 💜
No! Go watch the documentary on Hedy Lamarr’s life! She was a freaking genius. I’m not sure which streaming service it is on but it will blow your mind!
I know hedy already. I’m just thinking of another black women who also was given credit for gps and the cellphone.
BTS’ message is about being yourself and loving yourself, they are not going to change to cater to anyone and that’s why I love them. They are just themselves and if you love them, you love them and if you don’t, you don’t, period. I respect that and will continue to support them in whatever genuine way they want to express themselves. They are not “trying” to be anything or anyone other than people who just love doing music that inspires!💜 🫰
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for your serious approach to BTS and ARMY. Some of the other male reactors are less than respectful and are somewhat transparent about it. I got interested in BTS completely by accident. I was looking for Charlie Puths song We Don’t Talk Anymore and found Jimin and Jungkooks cover and was blown away and as ARMY says I fell down the rabbit hole. I love their music, their messages, their dedication to performance but I won’t lie I am 55, married but I have 2 working eyes and THEY FINE! I’m old not dead. There are segments of the fandom that will balk at any sexualization of BTS but seriously they are grown men and they do sexualize themselves in video…..not to the degree of American artists but they’re not saints either. I have a problem with younger fans that think just because I’m older I should not have the same thoughts and feeling about them that a 20 year old has. We all get older but we don’t stop being who we are. The light stick known as an Army Bomb costs about 55.00 US each. BigHit and Hybe are masters at merchandising everything. I saw them at their last Las Vegas concert in April and I went alone. The whole trip including transportation, food, hotel and oh yes lots of merch cost me a little under 4,000.00US. There are many Army I know that spend far more than I do to support them. There are many who have gone to Korea to see them in concert. People are learning Korean while BTS does their military service to understand them better. Army is very dedicated. This will sound completely stupid but BTS reminds me of the movie Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure. At the end of the movie Bill and Teds band transcends everything and heals the world and makes society better. In a way that’s what BTS feels like. They are leaving the place better than they found it. Please keep up the good work.
Ty for this comment especially. “ I have two working eyes and THEY FINE. I’m old not dead.” Only change I would make. You are seasoned with life that doesn’t mean you don’t know god when you see it.
I agree though age is not a excluder for attraction or participation. This is a thing again as a man my sexual agency is allowed to like younger women who are of age. Yet older women doing it are seen even more so as predators than men are. This is a dichotomy I don not participate in especially after having a daughter I was rudely awakened to all the things I can do as a man that women are demonized for.
Excuse me 4k?
Lord Jesus on high please help me cultivate a support of myself and music that would garner me such favor that someone would buy 4k or more of my Merch and or tickets.
That’s a support I only seen for those mid life crisis men who go to rock and roll camps for adults at like 50+
S/O to you for not caring about outside thought and supporting and enjoying what’s you enjoy damn if they get you or not. Plus the community of BTS fans is one of if not the best fans I’ve ever seen. I literally was talking to my friend about how great you all are.
10:00 not trying to be rude but you don’t understand bc you’re not a women, men constantly belittle women’s interest including music that’s a fact, i lost count how many times men tried to say all my likes are “bad” and not worth their time, the only time men try to understand what women like is when they are interested in them like you said, otherwise men just don’t care and love to bring it down just bc girls like it, thanks for the reaction tho 🙏
I would say for most men you are correct. For my self personally I don’t discount a women’s opinions or likes. This is me though. Do I understand from a woman’s perspective surely no but I understand that this ting called earth don’t spin without a women and her influence and opinions and I mean from the Dawn of time to today. I bet if we took the time to look into it a women has either influenced said thing or directly made it. Very little in this world do I think was invented or done without that influence. But I also know I’m a man with no issues saying this and I know most men don’t think of women being so powerful but I do.
I clicked on one video and i ended up watching 4 videos😭 you're addictive 💜 thanks for your reaction
I really appreciate that and your time. I’m happy to hear you enjoyed it.
when you said you had to wait 5 years for some of your favs I automatically thought about Kendrick 😭😭😭
and I really like to see your insight regarding BTS and related topics 😔 about kpop evolving and having more idols producing their own songs, it is already happening!!
kpop is not only about the genre "pop" per se, some people can see kpop as "Korean popular" so everything that is popular with the public. kpop covers a lot of different genres and it is still kpop regardless (specially when you participated from the training process, you were trained to be an idol). that's why it can be liked by a lot of people, everyone can find what they like inside of kpop.
however, in south Korea, there are some that are considered artists and not only idols. also, some that are not considered idols at all as we can see in k-hip hop, k-r&b and ballads. now it's actually getting a little bit difficult to explain what kpop actually means as it's getting more mainstream
Thank you for the BTS reactions! 💜
you've been watching a lot of fanmade videos lately and those are good but maybe you could do music reactions in between too? there's only arson left in jack in the box album and d-2 has some of my personal fav songs. thank you for your reacton as always!
No problem. I’ll get some music added in there and wrap up those albums as we have mix tapes to get through more too before we go into BTS as a whole.
Actually she is right music that is popular among women as a woman myself is always looked down at from media and the gp I still don't know why though but music that is popular among man is always being the best and that's the taste
I agree it is looked down on but then to say it only became cool after men find it helps to push the narrative women are not taste makers and I myself knowing how pivotal it is to not only have good women on your team but also so support is Tina long and successful career. Do not like the idea that c thing became cool 17 years later when men said okay no look at it like 17 years a thing has been cool and men were to dumb to associate with it. This is why I say ll cool j is a big inspiration to me. He was dissed by say 99% of his fans wear high heels. I heard that and said so. 99% of a group of people who as men we would like to be seen by see this man and support him I rather have that that 100% of male support as men are far more fickle with what we spend money on and like. Women how ever for the most part once they support you they die supporting you long as you are genuine and authentic.
@@Jurnalist_ that's why we as armys are proud and feel more comfortable to be a female dominated fandom we love our male armys and the thing that makes us so much comfortable is bts always proud to have us and always acknowledge that they have us and they always defend us from media and weird people everytime we get attacked
In england they call gentrification 'rejuvenation projects' lol it's just social cleansing.
But I always remember how well the BTS army killed off any tory hashtags on twitter during brexit
😂😂😂 colonization by another name.
How about the US elections? Those were proud days seeing ARMY hijack racist and qanon hashtags with the ever-hated fancams. And reserving seats at The Orange One's rally to mess with their numbers and create empty seats. 🤣😂🤣
Ahhh, subversive activism. Love to see it.
Actually you found BTS at the time you were supposed to. There is a saying in the fandom that BTS finds you when you need them. Someone correct me if I didn't say it right. I became an ARMY late 2019. I think if I found BTS earlier, my concentration in school would have been low lol! I went back for a second degree and a new/additional career and I'm a 54 year old ARMY. As for the light sticks (ARMY Bombs), you can order them through Weverse or get them at a concert. There might be other places too. I think I paid around $65. I got one attending their Las Vegas concert, which was a blast and I met some really wonderful people and I went by myself, because they were sold out on Weverse. I have listened to other kpop groups and like most of what I hear. I think some of the music sounds the same to me because, at least for the male groups, they choose all tenors for the vocalists I believe, so to me there is no diversity to how they sound. I also tend listen to other kpop groups where I know they write their own music such as Seventeen, Stray Kids and Mamamoo because their voices are out of this world. I like BlackPink too even though I'm not sure how much they write or produce. My ultimate favorite whom I love like my family is BTS. BTS is their own genre to be honest because they are not afraid to try different things and come out of their comfort zone. I'm so glad you found out about them and I always enjoy watching reaction channels when they first experience BTS because they can experience the joy and connection I feel. BTS are the first musical artists I have ever felt this way about. I have had crushes and favorites in music, like Rick James and Prince and for hip Hop/Rap I have many artists I like: Sugar Hill Gang, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Kool Moe D, Heavy D, Run DMC, Public Enemy, LL Cool J, A Tribe called Quest, Whodini, Salt and Pepa, Queen Latifah, Eric B and Rakim, Big Daddy Kane (Too many to name and Yeah, I'm going way back LOL!) I'm sorry I got long winded with my writing and usually don't comment on too many channels but I really enjoy your channel and your knowledge, respect and passion for good music. Thanks again for the great reaction. Enjoy your day.💜
I will have to say you just might be right. For what I want to build in my musical career and the musical output I have in this stage of my life. It’s crazy to say BTS especially the rap line have provided me with a perspective and understanding I might not have arrived at or would’ve gotten to far too late to be beneficial. Where as even the last song when writing it I thought of RM and how he might approach crossing the bridge of being truly open and honest in his music so it can connect more.
@@Jurnalist_ have you watched the Pharrell X Namjoon interview???? might be something you can gain insight from.
BTS won Artist of the Year at the American Music Awards
fyi the "little lights" are bts's official lightstick called army b0mbs! it's something common in the kpop industry / culture for groups to have their own personalized lightstick for fans to have on concerts and events. it's basically a symbol of the fandom you are part of, so to speak.
bts has the larges box office in the US i belive maybe Bruce Springsteen was more but he had 14 shows or more to earn the same as bts did in only 4 shows. and that is not counting the hotels in las vegas witch was booked with army. las vegas was purple the entire week you can check the news it´s crazy.
there was also BTS after party and it was filled with army and they only played bts songs the whole night.
BTS acknowledge that K-Pop is a part of what they're. But they don't call it K-pop, because K-Pop is a western term. In Korea it's called idol music and BTS call themselves idols. However to put BTS strictly into K-Pop box (the way West understand what K-Pop is) is unwise. K-pop not strictly a genre even if somehow it is. It is industry and many Korean artists who can sound opposite of what you'd expect of K-Pop are still considered K-Pop. So, yes, BTS are K-Pop and the boyband and there is nothing derogatory in these terms. Still they are so much more than this.
i wish there were package deals… 😂 flying to and staying in LA from NS, Canada was a lot of 💵 💵 💵
First of all want to start with, I'm a 44 years old Mexican woman, living in Texas, so with that out of the way 😅. For me it was hilarious when you said "I strongly disagree " and start to say your thoughts and at the end of the day, your reasoning was almost the same at what she was referring to. And I been meaning to respond about what you said about the "European "football? I strongly disagree with you on that. Let's talk about high school/college American football, and how borderline and sometimes really abusive the "couch "are. Just a few months ago my daughter (who is a band member in her high school) was recounting how a couch from another high school was telling his kids how stupid and incompetent they were and how they should have to crush my daughter high school team because "they are a bunch of immigrants kids ",and yes there were parents of those kids with in their group and not one of those parents stop him or say anything against him, and of course just remember how college use their athletes to make money (remember also how a few years back a couch was accused and indicted on abuse and the college had been hiding it for years? ). And one of the most recent ones about Gymnastics and all this doctors, couches and organizer who not only were seaczauli abusing this athletes from the time they were really young, but also were telling them that if they say something or tell someone they would not be able to keep on competing and they're parents would lose their job and money. So yeah while football is taken really seriously all over the world and some times (a lot of times) fans and organizations are obnoxiously serious and borderline abusive about training and looking for the next Messi, American football is the same way (and to be honest, lots of other American sports also)and have the same aspects to it.(don't forget they start training at 4 years old and spend thousands of dollars on it).
I really enjoyed your videos, I just found your channel last week, I like that you really pay attention and have inside knowledge of the entertainment industry. You good, keep going. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🇲🇽🤟
I think if I ever see something like that coach I won't be able to keep myself from doing something that embarrasses my husband. 🤬
Nah these guys are living legends for sure no one can say anything different it's utterly facts tho. They will always be our 7 kings. Just letting ya know hahaha 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰🫰
Army Light Sticks - I just got it five minutes ago from Weverse. $75 total NYC.
Not bad at all. It’s lit literally now. 😂
LL Cool J was my biggest intro to rap/hip hop. BAD was the soundtrack to my senior year of hs along with Salt n Pepa, Beastie Boys, Cameo etc. 🥰 I was at that show at Allegiant. It was the last of four they sold out. Army invaded Vegas for two weeks - it was the best time of my life. I met an Army on Twitter to share my lodging with in trade for a ticket to one of the shows. We had never met but clicked immediately. On the way to Vegas I met an Army during on my flight - we went to Hobipalooza together a few months later. Army are instant family. We make little gifts to give out to other Armys at shows. I made another friend in line for merch at a show. I have never felt safer in a crowd than in Allegiant stadium. BTS don’t do fan meets ( at least not in the US) but if you get certain floor seats you get to attend the sound check. I got to do this at Allegiant as well. Sat alone and made friends with all the Armys around me, gave out gifts and took pics together. After the show my friend and I shared a bbq table with two Armys we had just met. It felt like we were old friends- mind you these girls were literally 25 years younger than us. So, just a taste of the insane comraderie I have experienced because of BTS.💜
There's no way a rapper doesn't belive ppl think women's taste is bad... rap, hip hop specifically, is one of the most male dominated, misogynistic genres of music 😭
Pleace react to bts 2021 festa you can see both vocal line and rap line talent
the lightsticks are not $130 hahah, they're $36 currently on the official store.
I think it was for internationally shipping is what drove the cost up.
@@Jurnalist_ that's definitely true. since 2020 and everything that happened, shipping costs have gone insane.
2 things. I suggested 2 songs to you before I heard your plan. Enjoy your Rap First journey. I never really liked rap until I heard BTS rap. I appreciated the talent and art, but it seemed the ones I heard were not lyrical and didn't change cadences. Do you know this? The rappers and singers sing and dance together. They incorporate rap into almost all their songs and performances. They do have some vocals only and solos. But every concert and MV and live performance has rap entertwined into most all the songs. That's why I like BTS's rap. It's so creative and conceptually designed into their songs. And every rap has its own rhythm and cadence and artful expression. It's Masterful! 2. A fun thing. Funmation...who used to do Goku's show and voice acting moved from Canada to Dallas,TX. I think they did start in Japan. Anyway, they advertised for open auditions. I went and actually auditioned for Goku's character and a female character. The first audition was in the sound booth. I passed that. Then I got to audition with other people doing live readings for the director. But I didn't go on. But still it was so cool to audition for that show. Do you know they make as much money as real actors sometimes even more because of residuals. Cartoons get played over and over. They get paid each time it airs. That's all. Journey on. Except that I stayed up late listening to your reactions and it actually saved my life. Someday I'll explain.
They have 3 Grammy nominations right now in non KPOP catagory
$55-65 for the Army Bombs if you pay more you are buying on secondary market and not from Weverse
I have comeback (new song/album releases) parties at my house. Guests range in age from 15 to 63. We are different ethnicities, genders, and religions. We're like a microcosm of ARMY. We have a common interest and our differences don't matter.
As it should be. Your differences are your and our strengths.
No one person is all things.
Allowing for the differences to overlap allows for us to create a stronger whole.
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Btw 😂😂😂😂
There are certain instances like in variety shows where bts (especially jin) threaten the hosts with army for fun...
We armys get a kick out of it from time to time.
One of the members will go "Oh I'm upset, I might post how upset I am on Instagram" 😂😂😂
You will start seeing the show hosts scramble and beg for mercy.
That's just for fun tho. 😂
In reality bts are very humble and and they know their influence and thats exactly why their music contains so many good messages. And bts know we armys will take it to heart and apply it to life.
That's what they do with the power.
Also previously the bts members always stayed silent (except for in their music) about their mistreatment and the hate they got.
But recently members are beginning to slowly open up and post on socials about getting back stabbed by people they trust. They are realising that finally they can open up about what they face especially with them going to the military and being free of Government pressure.
Namjoon last week posted about how a monk at a Buddhist temple sold his private conversation details to the media.
Armys obviously trended "monk" and "respect bts" in return.
But in general bts has a huge sense of responsibility of fame...
And that's why armys put our trust in them.
How old are you? You rap. Do you sing? How good is your dancing? Hybe will be having auditions in the U.S. to create an American style BTS. Hybe bought out Justin Beiber's managers managing company. I cant remember his name. I'll go look it up. It's Scooter Braun. They will hold auditions. Justin's manager will be managing the American Hybe group. Obviously they won't have the same rules as BTS. Do you want to audition for the group??? Start practicing NOW!!!
I’m an old man despite my youthful face. 😭😭
I would work with a entertainment company but I wouldn’t like to do the group thing. I used to dance and very well. Then I was hit by a car and now my knee and lower leg and femur have titanium additions that don’t allow the same range of motion so even if I wanted to do a hybe try out. I don’t bring enough auxiliary options.
I rap and can sing a Little bit. With training my singing voice would be more like soul singers from the sixties like Leon bridges if you know him.
I’m currently training my voice to sing more as I do a lot of writing for singing but can’t do those parts due to my voice not being strong enough to achieve what I’ve written and hear in my head.
Currently my musical goals are independence and sustainable living. Past that I’ve matured to a place where the smoke and mirrors of superstardom no longer pull on my heart as they used to. Now i just want loyal supporters like BTS and to make music that impacts people and the ability to financially only make meaningful music and not have to sit at some desk job. They song snippet I shared in my shorts today or very much saying all of that.
@Jurnalist Good for you not to want to sit behind a desk. Yes. Pursue your dreams. You don't come off as an old man. So. To inspire you to go for the Gold. Not the illusive kind. The real inner gold. Watch this MV. Just by yourself. No reaction for us. One reason BTS is so amazing they really are inspiring. Their lyrics are inspiring. Watch their MV "Stay Gold". A little about me. I never finished college the first time around. But luckily I was able to get some great corporate jobs. But I did sit behind the desk. Without going into detail after 9 11 because of some jobs drying up. I moved back home. Joliet, IL near Chicago. And I found out I could get disability because I of my Clinical Depression. Luckily I had found a great doctor. Got on meds. Got therapy. Then I was fine. Went back to work. Could cope. But back at home a past dream of mine came back alive. I decided I want to go back to college and finish my degree I never finished a long time ago. With my disability Funds and student loans I went back to college at age 50. And I loved it. The first class I was required to take was Adult Learning Theory. As adults we learn differently. And I applied what I learned and got straight A'a except one math class. I graduated with a degree in English, Communication, and Theatre. I was able to pursue my love of acting. And I got to be in the Musicals. Interesting enough i discovered I excel at directing. The theatre had great classes to inspire me.
The young kids I went to college with very accepting and loving. I became a mentor to all of them. Giving advice and sharing life lessons when they asked me. When I found BTS my creative "juices" started in again. I consider myself Army Plus. I would like to work for Hybe. And since they are here in the states now. You never know. I can tell you are ambitious, yet humble. You've discovered what is important in life. And are now enjoying that life. I have no doubt that accident changed your life and perspective. Don't let that titanium hold you back. I have titanium too. Both knees replaced. Successful Spinal stenosis surgery. I still dance. And choreograph. When I hear music I see the choreography in my mind. And when I hear music in the grocery store I dance down the aisle...to the embarrassment of my family. Actuslly they understand. They are all musical theatre people too. I want to share some reactors I love and follow. I think you would like them too. You don't know this but some reactors become friends. Invite each other to their live streams. One reactor interviews other reactors. I will tell him about you. His name is John Reeves. He is a Rock musician who accidentally found BTS. The other reactors are .... I'll get back to you. I have to check on spelling. Have a great 13th. Do you know why Jimin has 13 Tattooed on his body? And why 13 is lucky to all of BTS and Army? Find out. Today is a Lucky Day!!
WhatchaGot2Say The reactors I think you would like.
and for their future i think they want to be known as artists. i dont think all of them want to dance as much they rather focus on the music so i think we will see more of that in the future. but no matter what they will never escape the Kpop stigma because all singers in kores are called kpop no matter what style of music they do. so korean R&B singers will never bee known in the US without the level of fame as BTS has. but i think J-hope has now been put in hip hop category on sportify so they are already beginning to branch out and i think that it will help them in the future.
FYI - No, ‘the little light thingy’, or Bangtan bomb costs $40…I have 3
I’m a huge Broncos fan and men are always ready to talk about football; however, I know it’s about understanding. My office is full of BTS merch & everyone is aware you don’t come into my office talking ish about BTS! I maintain my professionalism, I’ll just kick you out!!
I’m from Alabama and I caught flights to go to the LA as well as the Vegas show. And if they would have performed anywhere else in the states I would have been hopping more flights 😂😂😂😂💜💜💜💜
What would he say when he will learn that preorders for Hyundai Palisade ( which BTS endorsed ) surpassed 52K in Korea alone in 2 months after announcement?
Them boys got the juice.
@@Jurnalist_ mind that a price of one car was around 37-42K$. So yeah, these guys are incredible endorsments.
About touring data info, u said about bundles: BTS used ticket bundles ( around 10K copies ) per their first stadium date ( Citifield ) in 2018 for Love Yourself:Answer album ( not like they even needed them since they outcharted #2 on BB 200 by impressive gap ) and NEVER EVER since then. They never really needed bundles, their pure sales were always good in US. Like they sold 917K copies of CDs according BB in this year
The crazy thing about BTS is that they had to work extra hard to get to where they are in the Western music industry, I'm talking about non-ARMY recognition, but they also had to work just as hard to even be excepted in the Korean music industry, mostly the Idol music platforms. It's been a constant battle from Day 1 ARMYs to where the fandom is 10 years later to have people take BTS seriously. It's exhausting, but so rewarding when people start giving them an honest chance. That's why I appreciate you, you listen with an open mind, you're willing to learn more about them so you can understand what the music is about and you don't say things just for the purpose of pleasing us.
30:19 they have expressed before that they would rather not be put in a box (called kpop).
Totally understandable.
I largely agree with this documentary as a long-term ARMY. However, as a male in the upper age bracket of the BTS fan base demographics I wish the creator hadn't so loosely used the words "stop being misogynistic". I have experienced years of push back against my investment in BTS from fellow males but never due to misogyny which literally defines as a hatred, contempt or prejudice against women. The mockery has mostly stemmed from things such as BTS suddenly appearing at the top as a corporately created boy band riding on looks as opposed to being real artists, an image of androgyny which is not a comfortable male image to engage, a fan base basically comprised of young females, BTS being Korean "boys" as opposed to men, not wanting to engage the Korean language, BTS mostly releasing trivial pop songs, amongst others. I have experienced toxic masculinity but never misogyny which is a powerful and despicable philosophy.
BTS once spoke of the consequences of the devaluing the concept of anger. I think in the just fight against misogyny knee jerking to loose use of the word when triggered similarly devalues the power of the word in the fight for equality. Yes, males have to figure out how to be comfortable with a fanbase which only now is becoming a bit more gender diverse, but care needs to be used when employing as heinous a term as misogyny as a descriptor unless appropriate. Hopefully ARMY will remember how damaging misplaced use of this word was when BTS released War of Hormone and Danger. By escalating ascriptions to their worst possible meaning, one devalues the efficacy use of the word in the fight to comprehend and smooth out the gender divide.
Xceleste is ARMY. Boracity is just using xceleste's vid for reference :) 💜
It had me for a minute as I didn’t know what she looked like. This can’t be the same girl army says I should watch talking about gang like that. 😂
@Jurnalist her vids are great as well. It'll give you more of an idea of how BTS has grass root growth. It'll also provide an understanding of how true their relationship is as a band and brothers.
no bundles no backstage
Her conclusions kill me 😂
I feel we have developed a love hate relationship in only a few hours. 😂💜
Another interesting take
ruclips.net/video/Uaj1X76h2mQ/видео.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
A Korean academic’s presentation on Korean popular tv… the panel is quite cringy in places but the content is interesting enough to make them bearable… it’s a bit intellectual but then so is BTS really 😊💜
I appreciate your comments and questions during these reaction videos. It shows your interest, and I thought your question about packaged plane and concert tickets was funny. No way, you are on your own. LOL Also backstage meet and greets, no more, they did that early on.
33:06 of this video they were showing a piece of a documentary that was released by BANGTANTV produced by HITMAN Bang (CEO) for BTS ON track. If you could bundle a reaction with the ON MV and the documentary that would be great! I truly think this is something that you would enjoy. They used the UCLA Marching band on the track and interviewed the folks involved including producers, the choir and more. I have included the links below to the MV and documentary. BTS ON Kinetic Manifesto Film ruclips.net/video/gwMa6gpoE9I/видео.html and ON Documentary: Dialog ruclips.net/video/npfs6afvIhk/видео.html
In addition, my gut feeling is that BTS would have been an R&B group, and this is MY opinion only. In part for the major influence of R&B that you hear in their early discography and the music that they are making now in some of the solo projects. Just as you said, I would love to see that one day. 💜
This is both a good watch/react.
i think army bombs (the light sticks) are sold at concerts like $55
That’s not bad at all
Yo I'm the middle of reading Dune right now! 😆 Bene Gesserits ROCK
The best! A BG for a wife would be a mad time. 😂😂
Enjoy the read. I highly recommend the prequel and sequel works. I started at the beginning and went in chronological order.
@@Jurnalist_ Fr it'll be like kinda having your own Jedi 😂 I didn't even realise Dune is a trilogy until the other day 💀 it's slow going but sounds great so far!
@@giakulasa exactly. Enjoy the ride is a space opera that spans 10k years
If you want to go to a BTS concert...You should join their fanclub ARMY...They get first dibs on tickets
Lol...Keith Richards comments got me! Love the Stones!!! About the Academy, they only put them in K pop categories. I think this year J-Hope broke the K pop category curse. Not sure what it's under. I do agree that Legends is fitting! You have a Lovely Evening...✌💜
You have a better one. Thank you for your time and comment. 🫡
You asked about the R&B section... they could but I don't think they will since they generally don't like to make albums with only one genre of music. Mainly because each member has their own style and they like to include their songs in their albums. BUT V or Taehyung is actually releasing his solo album sometime this year (his first single comes out at the end of this month!) and he has been known as the resident "soul" of the vocal line. He loves jazz music and old R&B and all of his solo songs are typically R&B or Ballads. Soooooooo I'm gonna bet money that his solo album will mainly be R&B and I CANNOT FREAKING WAIT because that's my favorite genre of music right there. (he's also my favorite vocalist of BTS for this reason) :)
Also, I emailed you a roadmap of their best group songs (and the vocalist line's solos), so if you don't already have one feel free to use that one!
Thank you got the email. I have starred it to use for reference. I look forward to the solo album and hope it’s a pure vibe like Indigo was.
Hy ARMY don't forget To vote BTS 💜💜💜💜💜 in tweter💜💜💜💜
I support your efforts.