I've studied Alcala's case for decades, so I knew immediately while watching the movie that it wasn't 100% accurate. They did state that it was loosely based on true events, so that's a dead give away that it was going to be more fiction than truth. Didn't stop me from enjoying the movie though.
Ppl seem to be forgetting that this was in Cheryl's POV. So, there is going to be some fictionilized parts to help move forward the plot. Also, its not like we can get every account as almost anyone who was involved with him and including rodney is dead
@@Randy218_ You also have the tons and tons of women who posed for his photos, the girls who had him as a camp counselor and recognized him in the post office wanted posters--that's a crazy story--and others as well who could've provided interesting perspectives, I think. Most of the women he took photos of have been accounted for; as you probably already know. I think they could definitely lend a meaningful perspective, especially in the aggregate.
Accuracy aside, they did a good job. Sometimes you need to create characters, character amalgams or fictional situations so the audience understands what's happening.
"Lies" is a strong way of underscoring how the film was "loosely based on a true story". Thought the film was fantastic, doubly so considering it's Anna Kendricks' directorial debut.
What I do like about this movie compared to other serial killer movies. Is how the movie addresses how the courts released him on bail and he went out and committed other murders. Serial killer movies may focus on the man hunt of the killer, but this was the first that focuses on the failure of the system for women.
this was a movie not a documentary, obviously there needs to be some sort of reason sheryl is there and it’s also a way to show how women in the industry are looked down upon and not taken seriously. also the fact that you felt the need to point out her name is spelt differently in the movie is honestly js another way of saying that there’s nothing wrong with the movie, your pointing out such MINOR things that happen in literally everything else on television. next, there were many many women who fell victim by the hands of rodney, kendrick also stated that she wanted the audience to be put in the position of the victims, so the way she showed the murders and “changed” them was a way to show how the women felt in that situation. now the coincidental audience member was also added to show and in a way represent the many women that went to the police and reported the crimes of this man just to get nothing out of it. this man killed more than 100 women and girls and absolutely no one would hear the survivors while it was happened and everytime he was “caught” he was again released and resumed his monstrosities. “the unsettling date” again was put in the movie to allow the audience male and female to be put into the position of these poor women. so everyone could feel first hand how terrible it is to feel like you cannot escape someone you have a terrible feeling about. in conclusion kendrick directed this movie beautifully and she did what she said she would. this isn’t a true crime documentary. in this film we are put in the shoes of the victims, survivors, and witnesses of this terrible man. great video, but i find it disrespectful to criticize a movie that spreads awareness for kidnapped, raped, then murdered victims.
This movie was a HORRIBLY inaccurate "Feministic" account of a "True story".... It constantly made every woman either A victim, or a strong smart take-no-shit type.... And every man either a weirdo, an asshole, or an opportunist.... I DO NOT RECOMMEND.....
The movie sucked, I thought it was basically just an attack on men where it painted all men as predators of some sort, with Alcala simply the logical extension of all men's impulses and attitude. But it also ignored the most compelling parts of the story; the cop that saved the life of the little girl Alcala assaulted, after having failed to save a friend in Vietnam, the mother of one of his victims bringing a gun to court to murder Alcala but feeling the presence of her daughter staying her hand...the girls at a camp that Alcala was a counselor at see his photo in the post office amongst the wanted fugitives...one of his surviving victims returning from Mexico to face him down in court...these were all far more compelling than anything captured in the movie. They say that truth is stranger than fiction, well certainly, bad fiction is almost always far less compelling than the truth.
Agreed. I don't think there was a single male character that had positive personality traits. They even invented a subplot where a fictitious woman tries to raise the alarm but she's ignored by sExISt mEn. My biggest issue with it was the framing of the story around Cheryl/the show. She wasn't an engaging protagonist & her involvement in the case was minor to say the least. She felt like a side character promoted to lead.
Pretty biased movie imo. As usual, women don't seem to grasp the concept of law enforcement and due process. No, they're not going to arrest some dude just because you say so. You need proof. And if you can't prove it, then it's absolutely essential that a person is not arrested based on your sole testimony. I just watched the movie and that scene where the girl screams at the cop "do your fucking job" just reeked of feminist nonsense. "women need to be believed" my ass. Women need to prove things. That's it.
Do you mind if there are embellishments when it comes to stories like these?
Nope , I take into account that any drama based on true story is embellished
@@baddnurse5443i agree
Yes! They missed so many opportunities to capture the true events.
They lied and disrespected the true victims.
This is why I usually stick with documentaries. The truth is crazy enough.
I've studied Alcala's case for decades, so I knew immediately while watching the movie that it wasn't 100% accurate. They did state that it was loosely based on true events, so that's a dead give away that it was going to be more fiction than truth. Didn't stop me from enjoying the movie though.
Yup it’s called a movie for a reason and not a documentary.
They're not lies if its "loosely based" around a true story
You are correct and it’s called a movie not a documentary for a reason.
thank you!
Ppl seem to be forgetting that this was in Cheryl's POV. So, there is going to be some fictionilized parts to help move forward the plot. Also, its not like we can get every account as almost anyone who was involved with him and including rodney is dead
That's definitely not true; plenty of people associated with the case are still alive.
@@kforcer that was like 3 women.
@@Randy218_ You also have the tons and tons of women who posed for his photos, the girls who had him as a camp counselor and recognized him in the post office wanted posters--that's a crazy story--and others as well who could've provided interesting perspectives, I think. Most of the women he took photos of have been accounted for; as you probably already know. I think they could definitely lend a meaningful perspective, especially in the aggregate.
Accuracy aside, they did a good job. Sometimes you need to create characters, character amalgams or fictional situations so the audience understands what's happening.
Some of the “lies” are metaphors. You know, because it’s a 90 minute movie.
"Lies" is a strong way of underscoring how the film was "loosely based on a true story".
Thought the film was fantastic, doubly so considering it's Anna Kendricks' directorial debut.
It’s feminist wet dream bologna.
What I do like about this movie compared to other serial killer movies. Is how the movie addresses how the courts released him on bail and he went out and committed other murders. Serial killer movies may focus on the man hunt of the killer, but this was the first that focuses on the failure of the system for women.
Documentaries usually tell the truth about actual events.
They add fake scenes for dramatic purposes
How can they be fake if it’s a dramatic film loosely based on a true story?
What does it matter? It's a movie based on true events, not a documentary showing the true events. There's a difference.
With this clip you can tell that Cheryl has a look of discomfort in here eyes as soon as she met Acala. Total change from just moments before.
That's why they say "based on a true story"
They’re not lies wtf it’s based off of the true story.
this was a movie not a documentary, obviously there needs to be some sort of reason sheryl is there and it’s also a way to show how women in the industry are looked down upon and not taken seriously. also the fact that you felt the need to point out her name is spelt differently in the movie is honestly js another way of saying that there’s nothing wrong with the movie, your pointing out such MINOR things that happen in literally everything else on television. next, there were many many women who fell victim by the hands of rodney, kendrick also stated that she wanted the audience to be put in the position of the victims, so the way she showed the murders and “changed” them was a way to show how the women felt in that situation. now the coincidental audience member was also added to show and in a way represent the many women that went to the police and reported the crimes of this man just to get nothing out of it. this man killed more than 100 women and girls and absolutely no one would hear the survivors while it was happened and everytime he was “caught” he was again released and resumed his monstrosities. “the unsettling date” again was put in the movie to allow the audience male and female to be put into the position of these poor women. so everyone could feel first hand how terrible it is to feel like you cannot escape someone you have a terrible feeling about. in conclusion kendrick directed this movie beautifully and she did what she said she would. this isn’t a true crime documentary. in this film we are put in the shoes of the victims, survivors, and witnesses of this terrible man. great video, but i find it disrespectful to criticize a movie that spreads awareness for kidnapped, raped, then murdered victims.
So many absolutely trash comments. 😂
BASED on a true story is different than a true story
Should have been a mini series.
ROMAN POLANSKI FAN REALLY
Women always seem to fall for the psychopaths'???
This movie was a HORRIBLY inaccurate "Feministic" account of a "True story"....
It constantly made every woman either A victim, or a strong smart take-no-shit type....
And every man either a weirdo, an asshole, or an opportunist....
I DO NOT RECOMMEND.....
I couldn’t agree more. When are movies going to be good again?
My wife and I were watching it and I said..." This movie definitely has a low opinion of men."
@@hunterhunter5906and then she said “I want a divorce” because if that’s what you got from it then GROSS.
They definitely missed the mark. Disappointed..
The movie sucked, I thought it was basically just an attack on men where it painted all men as predators of some sort, with Alcala simply the logical extension of all men's impulses and attitude.
But it also ignored the most compelling parts of the story; the cop that saved the life of the little girl Alcala assaulted, after having failed to save a friend in Vietnam, the mother of one of his victims bringing a gun to court to murder Alcala but feeling the presence of her daughter staying her hand...the girls at a camp that Alcala was a counselor at see his photo in the post office amongst the wanted fugitives...one of his surviving victims returning from Mexico to face him down in court...these were all far more compelling than anything captured in the movie.
They say that truth is stranger than fiction, well certainly, bad fiction is almost always far less compelling than the truth.
You mean a movie about a man who murders women doesn’t portray men in a positive light? Call the authorities!
Agreed. I don't think there was a single male character that had positive personality traits. They even invented a subplot where a fictitious woman tries to raise the alarm but she's ignored by sExISt mEn.
My biggest issue with it was the framing of the story around Cheryl/the show. She wasn't an engaging protagonist & her involvement in the case was minor to say the least. She felt like a side character promoted to lead.
Pretty biased movie imo. As usual, women don't seem to grasp the concept of law enforcement and due process. No, they're not going to arrest some dude just because you say so. You need proof. And if you can't prove it, then it's absolutely essential that a person is not arrested based on your sole testimony. I just watched the movie and that scene where the girl screams at the cop "do your fucking job" just reeked of feminist nonsense. "women need to be believed" my ass. Women need to prove things. That's it.
That's a natural reaction to the police losing the report you filed for your friends murder.
Stupid comment lol
if you’re graped don’t wash go straight to police get dna and grape kit right away!!
@@elmo9293 You've never been falsely accused of a crime and it shows.
@@samus88 wait? I haven’t seen the documentary. Was this person wrongfully accused?