Module Upgrades Preview 240411: Tactician + Ascalon/Aroma/Lutonada + Ho'olheyak 2nd
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- In this video we will briefly preview all the module LV1-LV3 effects of all 8 new modules available in the new version with the Sidestory Babel
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Imagine upgrading Vigil to lvl3 just to lose 50/50 lmao
genshin simulator!
inb4 they add artifacts
That guy who has M9 vigil is going for it I know. Sunk cost fallacy at work
@@ReWhiteout funny you say that because I have him at e2lvl90 and m9
@@sundoll3710 My condolences.
@@shir0923 wait, the dodge doesn't stack?, i thought that the last shadow would get 100% physical dodge
Damn i was hopping Vigil love
look at the bright side! they could’ve given him 10% dodge, or even nothing! 😔
@@sundoll3710 Was kinda hoping for some fraction of the passenger treatment
Well I'm certainly looking forward to putting these on my Mumu and Beanstalk. +20% stats to all mumu copies is huge and the bump to the crabs defense and aggro is not game changing, but higher numbers for you is higher numbers.
Vigil module isn't that bad, he is just hopeless 💀
he’s beating siege with this module ig (coping)
@@sundoll3710Yeah, with that 50/50 dodge in 10s after a wolf die, he can be a decent lane holder while generating DP, which is good enough as a Vanguard.
The thing is he'd actually be relatively easy to fix yet they're bending backwards to not give him anything usefull.
@@vincentdehaldolf1636his damage is pretty good too
idk what you're all talking about, i've been using him on my main team with his first skill since he got launched and he solves like 70% of the game's maps. Same people that tried to convince me Ebenz was bad i assume.
all of these seem kinda... middling? not terribly impressed with this patch, especially with only one new second module (ho'olheyak)
Yeah Ho'ol and Lutonada seem to have the ones I would consider most impactful, although maybe Vigil will surprise me.
Positive note, that means this round of module data blocks are safe.
I expected a shit number for Ho'olheyak second module, but 20% arts fragile is good. Could be better? Yes. Am i saying this because i became a simp after her skin released? *YES*
After skin?😂 Hypocrite
Before skin no simp?
@@yoshitsuneminamoto6096 before i was a customer. She was my bento delivery
That's a decent modules patch, good
...wow. Just. Wow. A 50/50 chance to dodge and only for physical attacks. Even in my worst musings I never considered Vigil could get so shafted. Why, Hypergryph? And Mumu's is so nice for her just for the 100% stat copy on her water clone too, why are you making the gap between them even worse???
At least Ho'olheyak's second module isn't terrible. Not sure how good it actually is for her, but at the very least it's not obviously hot garbage.
tbh every tactician summon dies to rapid arts damage anyways so :p
not to mention they could’ve done nothing with him…
@@sundoll3710 That kinda makes it worse. If every tactical point is quick to die to arts damage, giving his the ability to dodge arts (even with just a 50/50 chance for a few seconds after one of the wolves dies) would've given him a huge leg up that he sorely needs. Especially since arts damage is getting more and more prevalent among the enemies as the game adds more events and chapters.
And they literally couldn't do nothing with him, that's the whole point of giving him a module in the first place. But he really needed more than what he got, because before there was just no gameplay-focused reason to pick him over any other tactician, even the lower rarities, and now... there still isn't. Which is a shame because otherwise he's a really neat character with a cool aesthetic and I'd love to use him myself but I don't have the resources to spare for such an underwhelming character.
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Ok
1% arts dmg for Ascalon module level 3? And that's it? Possible?
ho'olhayek definetly has a better module this time but still not enough to change anything
no Hoederer video?
Are you planning to cover Hoederer as the next Operator Hindsight? It might give players some info whether if he's worth pulling or not.
The hoederer hindsight
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they literally can just give vigil wolf a stat similar to cuora e2 max level and allow vigil to heal wolf by attacking. thats it.
Nah they did my girl Blacknight dirty, they should swap her base module effect with Beanstalk
Vigil mod is kinda nice, if the dodge can stack it mean. 50% first life, 75% 2nd life and so on so maintain the 3 head( cus he start with 4 now) is a coin toss, and 2 around flametail chance. If it dont stack then it kinda mid. The wolf have kinda same bulk as texas, and 4 life with atleast 50% dodge and 15% less damage, so if an enemy kill one dog in 1 hit they will take potentially 3 or 4 hit with this( 1 to red zone, 1 dodge, 1 kill if they dont straigh up kill it 1 shot) so actually wayy more survival.
If it stack it will be hard to remove the dog in just 15 to 20s wheniut have dodge.
(But this only applied to physical side of thing, although no one sane use this mf against caster in the first place.)
Use him quite alot and his problem imo never the dog have low survival rate tbh, it just expendable resource to be use anyway. The main problem i have is he dont have a way to focus on the enemy that the dog is blocking which make him wasted half of his kit. If you ever use him at all you will know vigil aint good against many enemy, he do find until anything above 600 def apear that block the dog and him gunning down the small fry with less def that is not block by the dog which wasted a ton of his dps while make the dog it self carried that damage for longer ie why it die so random 80% of the time. Many people dont realize that the "total" stat of the dog itself is better than quite abit of the vanguard class and it regenerate. Their damage on paper is actually quite nice but they dont get that damn paper most of the time cus how he prioritize stuff. Like this is nice but just make him gun anything the dog is blocking, shit will be fix.
Nah you got it wrong, the max number of block is only 3 not 4, originally without his module his wolves starts at only 2 blocks, and dodge mechanics itself is honestly wonky, if it's not 100℅ then its just 50/50 so RIP auto runs getting ruined by that dodge chances. That 15% less dmg is also kinda useless by some runs where his wolves are getting gunned down or sniped by range enemies at the start of the game cause the enemies need to be blocked by the wolves (kinda my main problem sometimes) in total this module is kinda meh, they could have fully strengthen his wolves' defensive stats but they gave him this dodge bullshit instead 😐😐
So Ho'olheyak module is a yes?
I want aroma so bad. She so cute.
Horuhaya 2nd module is great.
Mumu and vigil module fells bad.
imagine if blacknight's new talent was 'self is able to attack sleeping enemies' :'v
let's gooo! now I can stall with vigil a lot longer :'v
in all seriousness, now he can atleast full duration s3 right? right?
still don't know about s2 tho, gonna have some more fun with s1 and pairing him with skadi/stainless/roberta/mayer :'v
Increased taunt on enemies
That's something new
Blacknight module affecting Blacknight is amuaing considering she can't hit sleeping targets, lol. Still, a nice snall ATK buff to make the Tapir hit harder during S2 is good.
Thank ya for info
whats the bg music???
Babel event lobby theme
Vigil module Less damage is good, but dodging is dumb. Maybe just give more wolf pack stack
I don’t think this module for Ho’olheyak will be a game changer but I can see it making her much more effective especially if teamed up with a unit like Surtr or Ceobe
yup, but definitely helpful for her with her huge attack range in S3
Won't make her a good arts dps, but when you combine it with her levitate and silence she actually provides a lot of support. She is competing with Artoria and her sp costs are still high, but she feels a lot better with this module.
The fact that Vigil spawns his wolf with max shadows is a pretty nice change. RNG survivability when you lose a shadow's a little awkward, but the times you're using the wolf to tank it's generally for smaller-but-faster attacks for stuff like S1/2 while hoping the wolf survives the duration of S3 (for which the base trait helps a lot here). Doubt it's too gamebreaking to fix his core issues, but it helps for at least general gameplay.
You know, applying Weightless to enemies with 50% or less health isn't useless. Actually usable instead of 80%
Mumu's module is looking real nice, ngl.
Kinda wish MuMu's clone get reduced redeployment time but eh, I'll take it.
Sad day for Vimgil though.
Thanks for information.
Ho'olheyak 2nd module is great. It's look like i need another 12 module chips despite i already build her 1nd module.
And Lutonada heal just super. Another jaggernaut in my collection~
I don't see why the 2nd module would be better than the first.
In Arknights debuffs are applyed BEFORE the hit, so her first module buffing her increased damage against aerial targets is great because every hit that applies a levitate already profits from that increased damage talent. Also aerial not only means levitated but also hovering and flying enemies like drones.
Her second module's weightless HP requirement is better but still not amazing. And the Arts Fragility below 50% is good but considering we already have multiple sources of Arts Fragility, most prominently Hibiscus Alter and Reed Alter (who also does more Arts Fragility) and Arts Fragility not stacking makes it a rather niche upgrade.
@@Gorden121 Yea, but one thing - Not all enemy can be levitated and some enemy just heavy as ass and will fall back fast enough (4 or higher). So, you can use her second module to stall some heavy enemy longer and kill them faster in second hp part. More over - Arts fragility from other operators is good, but it's mean you need bring them along. And supporter have shorter range, so also can not work because of potential danger or no range tile. It's not always choice. Especially in IS.
@@QarumCro If you're using skill 3, which most people use, it's not better. As I said, the Levitate is applied before the attack, so any attack that applies levitate will get the damage bonus. So if the enemy can be levitated it doesn't matter how long, if they fall down immediately it doesn't matter because every attack with S3 applies levitate. Also you want to hit enemies as far away as possible because of the damage increase with range and because of that and the increased range of S3 you cannot benefit from the SP bonus. Only if you use S1 or S2 I can see it being better because of the higher Skill Uptime and for S2 the Levitate duration actually matters.
@@Gorden121 Pal, did you read what i write? First - Not all enemy can be levitated, so against this enemy, fragile effect will be more effective. Second - Use this module to stall some heavy enemy longer. If when i use her, there is a bully or sarkaz devourer, i want to hold them longer in one place, because in IS, there no guarantees that she kill them. More over, as you say, you prefer to hit enemy on max range, so even not in IS, if enemy will be longer levitated, he will less move between her attacks and so will less getting closer, and this way get more damage. And no, using someone to stall, while she use from far away, is not always a option (like undeployable tiles or just enemy that you don't wanna block/can't block). Also, SP regen can be used, because she attack on three tile when use S3, So, if there one elite enemy near her, she still can use him to charge skill and use it against far away enemy on other two lines.
It's just looks like you try find a way to not use her second module - If you don't like, so be it. I see use for it and i see situations when it's can be more good then first one. And no, refer to first your comment, i don't say its "better". It's just can be used on pair with first one.
@@Gorden121 Its a matter of coverage when it comes to Ho'ol since she can apply that fragility over a massive area, thanks to the way her S3 works. Reed unless getting a chain reaction is mostly going to only apply it to 1 enemy at a time, and Hibiscus has worse range and a limit of 2 targets a time. Ho'ol can apply the fragility to everyone in her S3 range which if you remember specifies: Extend attack range. In general this is a massive buff for her.
Ho'ol mod is perfect 50/50 LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Mumu has basically autodeploy and 100% stat copy now too which is great. Can't wait to ~~get Ho'ol~~ have this event hit global.
Damn they did cook better then I thought with that Ho'ol module, I gotta apologize for the doomposting before the fact that she debuff is pretty good.
Feels like Mumu got a barely acceptable module, but the rest got shafted.
I mean that’s an decent amount of dodge hope it stacks or something duration or %
Physical dodge is kinda sketchy but at least his S3 will be more viable now
As of the release of vigil 1st module, i will pull out all of my copium on him which state to "vigil might not be as useless as majority of people said he is" and join the side of "VIGIL IS NOT WORTH UPGRADING FOR THE 6 MONTHS AHEAD"
HG really just threw some useless mud f**king module to my already garbage 6* welfare boi. Was hoping that his "crowd control" tag would shines with his first module, but NO. No crowd control, still low stats wolves, dodge rng wolves (and just physical, not including arts).
Yeah, count me out from "vigil copium" team from now on. Gonna wait whether his next module would have crowd control kit or HG just forgot they even put that tag there. 😢
Finally snake wife get some buffs
Mumu gaming
Typhon x5, each with like 1200 attack power, all for 11 DP.
I am genuinely Not Happy with this batch, HG really dropped the quality down the drain with this one. Are you kidding. Only Ascalon module that actually looks good, Mumu did get a nice QoL, but the rest is pretty much a mess. Both Ho'ol and Vigil Desperately needs a good module to be a good operator, and they didn't even try. What even is the point of Module if it is the only mean to dump your hard-working resources for an insignificant "buff". Just a massive pile of disappointment...
Ascalon's upgrades are actually really poor, it's mainly the base effect that's good on her. And Ho'oh does focus a lot more on utility now + better SP costs, which was basically her only out. She's still got issues, but it's a lot more useful to use her now.
Vigil... They did try surprisingly much, since I expected way less knowing HG, but he just needs so much that it's not enough...
Man vigils was so close to being great they just needed to reduce the cooldown on his wolfs for 5-10 seconds
Overall underwhelming modules batch at least hol can cosplay as the class she should have been
Disappointing modules, or the fact they not improve much. Muelsuse though got quite a decent qol, some damage, so its better than nothing ig
I like how Mumu now can copy all of operator stats and making her bloober first deployment being instants develop copy, in paper doesn't like much, but in gameplay its making melee bloober can be really versatile choice for more strategys, even if not, now ranged bloober at least have better defensive stats and became more sustain for the entire skill duration.
And then, Vigil's module just straight up making you gambling for wolf pack life and lane holder capabilities, its doesn't even increasing wolf life or even get him some sanctuary. I hope next Vigil module can fix him.
*inhale copium*
The wolf pack does get 15/ dam reduction when blocking.
@@absolutelypallets7378 well that's my bad (I forgot) thanks for reminder, now I wonder how impactful it will be
@@elvannr9110 I E2'd him for Skater, but his summon has 1kish HP, that's 1 shot territory for heavies, so saying it's 1.15k is a bit ehhhh, I'll be waiting for the offensive variant.
That said it could be clutch across all three summons, particularly if your stuck with the base 27? sec cycle
Vigil's module is amazing if you just use S1 since the skills best feature is tanking and he'll respawn his clones faster than they can die. But at that point you might just be using an overpriced Flametail.
Unlike flametail he is free and i don’t have her so i think its a decent tradeoff, being able to open maps much easier is already great for what he should be doing as a tactician. Doesn’t solve all issues but makes playing him far better for those that actually want to use him
me, using both: ‘LMAO’
Its also a big improvement to his s3 since he can potentially get the full duration before the wolfs die
Honestly, I'd say it's a pretty decent patch overall. There's no big winners, but apart from Aroma, there's no big losers like most patches do.
Aroma tries to focus on damage entirely when she barely does any to begin with, the base effect is the best part and even that's conditional. Ascalon has horrible upgrades, but the base effect is fairly significant at least.
Vigil's... Got a lot, actually, but he needs so much it might not even be enough. 50% still is a high chance of failure...
Beanstalk and Blacknight are decent upgrades (not sure why Blacknight got a defensive base effect, I can understand Beanstalk's since she could use help killing stuff), Mumu gets some nice QOL and a slightly above average DPS gain for the clones, Ho'oh focuses entirely on utility now, drastically cutting her SP costs with the base effect and heavily stalling + softening enemies as they approach, and helps others finish them off faster as they arrive finally. It doesn't fix all the issues she has, but it does a good amount more.
Lutonada I'd probably say gains the most. A massive amount of HP and talent means that she gets almost 50% more effective HP per kill with her base effect. And more DEF is good too, especially for an Enmity.
I'd say vigil got the beast mod just because it makes it so he can potentially use the full duration of his s3 now but his base is so weak it doesn't feel like it
@@darkomihajlovski3135Yeah, but even then it doesn’t help his mixed damage, low dph, low initial SP, poor dp gen, high dp cost, and finally it’s still just a chance as a 50% dodge still has quite a margin of error, even with the base effect helping. I’d say S1 fans are probably better off with this one.
Our Vigil's doggos now have evasion lmao
Poor ho'ol. Vigil was atleast funnily bad enough to get this much attention from the people.
I do think her module isn't too bad now. Her skills are just the fucken problem
Which is where the base effect kicks in, at least her massive costs are drastically reduced now by attacking.
@slonik0002 attacking elite and boss enemies tho is.........
@@galeria_m Actually not *too* bad, if you’ve used it with others. We get a lot of elites nowadays, and she can recharge her S3 faster after it ends and the bosses/elites walk into her range. S1 gets a very nice upgrade if there’s one enemy in range. Even S2 helps increase uptime as well, since it’s probably not killing actual elites either by the end of skill.
Just think in Ho'ol with a lot of ASPD in an IS, SP battery 😌
Ho'ol's module seems quite nice! Still annoyed that she can't have more controlled uptime on the weightless debuff, but at least it has functions regardless of the health level now. Probably more tempting than her first module which only works on flying enemies.
WHAT IS THIS SOUNDTRACK OMG
The new event lobby theme iirc
Yea, it's the new event lobby theme. It sounds like something from a whole different game
Ok ok, I'm not entirely unimpressed by Vigil's kit now. I still think it lacks something, but overall not dissatisfied.
I'd be ok with it if it was at least 60% or dodged arts as well.
Yes that well be like having Hoshiguma but 3000 HP less at 14 DP, Now hes S1 well be hes best skill
@@obsiangravel
Idk why so many people cope for Vigil. Stop waiting for "wolfs are immortal" module, he cannot be saved.
hey, if they can revive the hunter/musha class, I think it’s not a bad idea to hope he gets something worthwhile, even if it doesn’t make him meta
we aren’t even wishing for immortal wolves, we just want better wolves
@@sundoll3710Tbf, they revived them by having a completely new operator with a kit specifically designed to work from the ground up, while cases like Hellagur and Rosa who got great modules as a fix still get outshined (moreso Hellagur) by the new op having a much better base design.
Its weird seeing blacknight got defensive module but the upgrade us offensive while beanstalk is the other way around. This batch honestly isnt that great. Hool arr fragility is actually decent. But i will still hoping for her 3rd module
honestly considering how blacknight is played, neither module base effect are that good for her LOL
VIGIL MOD HAS ACTUAL NUMBERS
WE WON
I still say the dodge should be perma but this is better than nothing, ig
100% dodge chance 10 second? a bit much don't you think? but then again, his dog is made of a wet tissue it really going to need that
Dang he’s still trash
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thinking that stacking sanctuary effect on vigil wolfpack would be better than rng dodge but then again their stat is terrible enough that the impact might be minimal compared to dodge
they technically have 15% Sanctuary but only to enemies they block but agreed
20-25% shelter effect for each enemy blocked is really all that would've taken to fix him.
@obsiangravel thatd make him an overpowered vanguard tank no way, with how many his summon can block, thatd go up to 100% damage reduction which is basically nullification, or 80% damage reduction which is higher than silence alter's maximum shelter which is 72% with s2m3 and ally below 30% hp
im joking, i get the idea tho. id say the 15& reduc from the base effect is good enough, maybe
@@galeria_m I think it's pretty balanced idea since it depends on the amount of wolves he has and needs to be blocking enemies, plus the wolves still have the stats of wet toilet paper.
But yeah let's see how much 15% shelter and fuckass rng physical dodge can do for him, who knows 😭
@obsiangravel i mean a flat 20% shelter while blocking one enemy is already wild, not even abjurers have that just lying around. a 20% would stop his wolves from dying so easily already, what more if it increased to god damn 40% damage reduction just by blocking another enemy.
youd be surprised at how much shelter actually does, even just what, like 40% shelter? allowed a god damn ranged unit like silence alter to tank patriot's ranged attack dude, and it didn't even need to proc the invincibility on her s3. Shelter is pretty darn powerful.
silter is actually somewhat better than shining just because shelter works the way it does compared to DEF.
correction, she did in fact proc the invincibility, her s3 just buffs the shelter to 18%. 3rd edit here, it didnt actually proc it, 18% shelter allowed her to survive patriot's spear.
in any case, her s2 showcases is a better way to show how potent shelter is since it quite literally focuses on sheltering.
Now our Vigil can stand Proud how he hold the lane 🥺🤧
Lol what is Ascalon module? +1 arts damage? Couldn't they give her at least +15?
Her talent is already hella good and its effect lasts a long time. Check how much damage Ethan or Thorns do and how long they last, and they don't even have slow debuff like her.
Yeah, it’s a pretty underperforming upgrade, 30% less damage than average damage upgrades at level 2, and the duration increase isn’t really necessary at all. +15% would’ve been wild though, even +5% would’ve been huge for her damage.
mizuki sneaked in and sabotaged the numbers (joke
They REALLY coming up with a safe module for all of them. Vigil stops at 50% instead of 70%? Ho'olheyak stops at 50% instead of 30%? It really feels like they both won't ever got their third module as it is designed to be usable until the end of Endfield, like Ascalon talent's stack.
Lutonada's stats increase looks quite good. Although I can't really take a guess how effective it will be.
Although I really didn't understand how impactful Muelsyse module is. I didn't have her. Sad.
mumu can instantly copy an ally once deploy her summon
Almost insignificant I'm telling you
Just for stats then? Also insignificant isn't it?
@@dedemastra1799 10% is like nothing
@@22minions72Depends on the operator you are cloning. If you multiply that 10% by how many times the clone splits in ranged form it can add up to a lot.
I think Ascalon one is the more better module here in this batch and that is stretching it already. Being a Tanky-Dodge Ambusher isn't saying much.
Sure Muelsyse clone having 100% stat of ops cloned and +5 sp on deployment ultimately making it somewhat instant copy upon deployment but do we really need that?
OH boy, Ho'ol second module ain't saving her one bit.
Mumu's clone gets overall +10% ATK,DEF,RES,HP increase,also the extra SP from the mod allows melee,ranged operators to stack their abilities faster
Gosh they really did my boi dirty! Like 50% chance dodge!? Physical Dodge?! Like wow, at least +1 Shadow increase like that’s something. The base effect helps but not a lot since the Wolfpack’s HP is still paper. They could’ve at least increases the HP for each shadow or increase the dodge chance when a shadow gets defeated like 50%-60%-70%-80%. But man they are not forgiving with the Welfare 6* Blue Boiz (except Lumen). Hopium for the Second Module to help with his DPS at least. Cause this just hurts!
yeah why does only mumu get the summon buffs??
though I guess with how Lessing was treated, having an additional part to his passive is already a lot for hg….
Yeah and Mumu module also just sad, I mean not that she needs one but still 😢
@@vincentdehaldolf1636mumu powerful operator lol
Before his module got released, i was hoping that at least his "crowd control" tag would have a relation to his upcoming module and somehow made vigil to actually be at least pretty good for a vanguard
But sadly, my disappointment is immeasurable today. HG really do f**king dirty with my boy 6* welfare ops. Looks like upgrading him is indeed pretty useless after all 😢
@@drsnorlax_felineknights low-key same, I expected an aoe stun when a head is lost
but looking at it, there’s quite a few elite immune to stun. still, lmao