You can get the whole assembly from Oshkosh Equipment for about $200 delivered. Also, if you can build enough air pressure to release the spring brakes it makes it a lot easier to install the cage bolt....you don't have to wind up the spring by hand with a wrench.
also food for thought, like the one fellow mentioned about relieving the spring brake pressure off of the diagram first, I wonder if the bolt was engineered to just be a holder of the pressure or if was intended to be used as a working tool to drive the spring off the plate?
Yes the main caging bolts need to be in place and tight before anything is touched because that would be horrifying to pull the clamp with the spring not caged. The cage bolts are large T shaped 1/2 bolts about 4 inches long. The fit and are tightened into a holder under the can when not in use to pull back the main brake springs.
I know this video is pretty old now but Haldex still makes these chambers they’re pretty pricey but the part number on them is 1216019 unfortunately the place I work for still has a few trailers with this setup
@6:10 - (Anyone watching in 2024) Operators manual says: Turn nut (Figure 1, Item 6) clockwise until at least 3 in. (7.6 cm) of threads of release bolt (Figure 1, Item 4) extends out of nut. TM 9-2320-272-10 (0124-1 to 0124-3)
great video, however i wish you would have shown us the deadly part and how the spring looked compressed with the caging bolt holding it. just wanted to see that and be able to understand this procedure entirely.
thanks finding instructions on working on these inline spring brake pods is impossible all simis I have seen have a slack adjuster and the pods are mounted parallel to the axles .
Yes I worry about that myself with my video's but don't worry I wouldn't blame you if I messed up . I am looking at a truck the brakes are locked up and wondering what might be the problem .
lol, if you put air to it and you don't hear hissing from the can cage the breaks one by one and whack on the drums a little with a hammer. With this enclosed system you can't see the rods move to visually check the cans are working. Don't hit the cans however, if you crack one they can get REAL dangerous. You can always put a little air back in the service (red) gladhand and pressure the truck w/o it running. Keep it below 90psi.
Is it one of the ones in Great Falls right now, that might have been me. If it is, which one do you want? In the two years I have been following them they have gone up in price about 40% overall. Maybe some day they will come down. I am looking for a running parts/spares rig.
Fair point. I would argue that most of the tension is held by the band clamp, all the nut is doing is pinching it closed. Stress levels there are not particularly high, that is how they got away with such tiny bolts in the first place. If you were to torque to the point of failure then you would have already compromised the band clamp long before. In my opinion anyway.
+NelsonStudios yes good point. I guess my only concern would be an installer that didn't use a torque wrench and didn't have the touch or feel of a proper torque and the bolt stripping. it sure is easy dissecting someone's helpful videos, lol.
No worries. That little can is a container of death so none of us want failure, especially when our face is right there working on it. It was an angle I hadn't thought of and now I will.
do you have a pto take off on yours? if you do can u tell me how to accuate the whole thing mine has a built in generator in it and ive never owned one before
some of the military stuff is hard to find. I've been away from the business for awhile but Bendix, Haldex, Rockwell or Eaton may have something on their website. Make friends with your International parts guy and he may give you a break
good tip there. these trucks suck to find parts for. motor - cummins dealer, everything else is avail from detroit/allison and the rockwell parts are best found at truck stop brake places. "Safetee Brake" sort of shops.
good point DR. when you mentioned Allison, I just remembered that Stewart & Stevenson does tons of military stuff so that may be another sourche. Should be able to find them on-line. I actually have a few guage bezel panels that came in a bunch of surplus I bought. I guess I should ebay them rather than scrap.
best comment ever "cant even throw the thing away or it will kill somebody else"
love your videos helps me out with truck maintanence quite often
Auf Doppelschelle bringt man niemals Druck.
Genau das richtige Werkzeug um eine Gummimanschette in seinen Sitz zu bringen!😂 wie Fahrrad reifen mit nem Messer montieren!
You can get the whole assembly from Oshkosh Equipment for about $200 delivered.
Also, if you can build enough air pressure to release the spring brakes it makes it a lot easier to install the cage bolt....you don't have to wind up the spring by hand with a wrench.
Wat u use to adjust the brakes from the out side
What number diaphragms are they, and how many to do the entire truck ?
also food for thought, like the one fellow mentioned about relieving the spring brake pressure off of the diagram first, I wonder if the bolt was engineered to just be a holder of the pressure or if was intended to be used as a working tool to drive the spring off the plate?
Yes the main caging bolts need to be in place and tight before anything is touched because that would be horrifying to pull the clamp with the spring not caged. The cage bolts are large T shaped 1/2 bolts about 4 inches long. The fit and are tightened into a holder under the can when not in use to pull back the main brake springs.
I need help in braking system when braking is leaking at the air chamber level in the drums and eguille dropped I need a system diagram
I know this video is pretty old now but Haldex still makes these chambers they’re pretty pricey but the part number on them is 1216019 unfortunately the place I work for still has a few trailers with this setup
@6:10 - (Anyone watching in 2024) Operators manual says:
Turn nut (Figure 1, Item 6) clockwise until at least 3 in. (7.6 cm) of threads of release bolt (Figure 1, Item 4) extends out of nut.
TM 9-2320-272-10 (0124-1 to 0124-3)
great video, however i wish you would have shown us the deadly part and how the spring looked compressed with the caging bolt holding it. just wanted to see that and be able to understand this procedure entirely.
thanks finding instructions on working on these inline spring brake pods is impossible all simis I have seen have a slack adjuster and the pods are mounted parallel to the axles .
nisw1918 It might be for liability reasons with brakes and all. By the way, did I mention the do at your own risk part of this video...
Yes I worry about that myself with my video's but don't worry I wouldn't blame you if I messed up . I am looking at a truck the brakes are locked up and wondering what might be the problem .
lol, if you put air to it and you don't hear hissing from the can cage the breaks one by one and whack on the drums a little with a hammer. With this enclosed system you can't see the rods move to visually check the cans are working. Don't hit the cans however, if you crack one they can get REAL dangerous. You can always put a little air back in the service (red) gladhand and pressure the truck w/o it running. Keep it below 90psi.
I was outbid so its someones else problem now anyway . But thanks for the video's they are very educational .
Is it one of the ones in Great Falls right now, that might have been me. If it is, which one do you want? In the two years I have been following them they have gone up in price about 40% overall. Maybe some day they will come down. I am looking for a running parts/spares rig.
Outstanding! Thank you for this video!!
Great video.
awesome video. I'm just not sure about the stainless steel nuts though. stainless steel has such a low tensile strength compared to grade 8.
Fair point. I would argue that most of the tension is held by the band clamp, all the nut is doing is pinching it closed. Stress levels there are not particularly high, that is how they got away with such tiny bolts in the first place. If you were to torque to the point of failure then you would have already compromised the band clamp long before. In my opinion anyway.
+NelsonStudios yes good point. I guess my only concern would be an installer that didn't use a torque wrench and didn't have the touch or feel of a proper torque and the bolt stripping. it sure is easy dissecting someone's helpful videos, lol.
No worries. That little can is a container of death so none of us want failure, especially when our face is right there working on it. It was an angle I hadn't thought of and now I will.
do you have a pto take off on yours? if you do can u tell me how to accuate the whole thing mine has a built in generator in it and ive never owned one before
No pto on mine, what do you mean by "accuate"?
I take it the other guy hasnt put up his vid yet? Thanks for the vid tips!
im glad i don't have to deal with this on the m35a2's
Thanks I enjoyed that video.
some of the military stuff is hard to find. I've been away from the business for awhile but Bendix, Haldex, Rockwell or Eaton may have something on their website. Make friends with your International parts guy and he may give you a break
good tip there. these trucks suck to find parts for. motor - cummins dealer, everything else is avail from detroit/allison and the rockwell parts are best found at truck stop brake places. "Safetee Brake" sort of shops.
good point DR. when you mentioned Allison, I just remembered that Stewart & Stevenson does tons of military stuff so that may be another sourche. Should be able to find them on-line. I actually have a few guage bezel panels that came in a bunch of surplus I bought. I guess I should ebay them rather than scrap.
The trick is don't try and do the repair with the unit on the truck.
drama queen - if youre THAT afraid maybe have somebody do the job