The effectiveness of traditional karate.
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2016
- Karate moves by Michael Jai White from the movie never back down:no surrender starring Michael Jai White ,Jeejaa Yanin,Nathan Jones,Ron Smoorenburg,Brahim Achabbakhe and a cameo by Tony Jaa.Directed by Michael Jai White.
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The biggest mistake the MMA guy made was not being the movie’s main character.
He never stood a chance
"Remember, Little Grasshoper: Plot armor is best armor"
@R Baker
No kidding. Does a back story included wife beating, drug dealing, and racism?
He's a White guy.
@R Baker look at the butthurt from you bud. Preparation H should take care of that.
@R Baker your parents really did a number on you
You mean his mistake is not being the director of the movie? 😂
I have no martial arts training but I think I would fare pretty well against anyone throwing slow-motion roundhouses over and over.
With respect from Bruce Lee “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.” Never ever underestimate people that do over and over. Again, with respect.
they slowed down for the film sake, if they use the proper speed of the technique you can't enjoy the feels dude so be careful saying that in front of people who train
@Bridget Blanchard i kicked a friend of mine's ass and he knows karate 😂😂
@@vembriarta471 That's... that's the joke...
Idiot
The "unrealistic" thing here is that a lot of fighters are MMA nerds who enjoy new technique. It's a lot more likely that fighters in the gym would be like, "Oh, wait, you know traditional karate? Cool! I never got into it." And the whole thing breaks down into a training session for the guys who aren't actively training for a pro fight.
Yeah most experience I have seen in the gym is more curiosity than anything else when seeing something new
And you’d get smacked in most gyms calling someone “blackychan”.
But there _have_ to be at least _some_ toxic douches in a sport that revolves around being physically stronger and more able to beat up your opponent, especially when steroids are thrown into the mix, lol.
@@thelittlestgiant Yeah, but those guys get tossed out on their ear real quick. It’s not easy to make money running an MMA studio. You need to have a rep for welcoming all skill levels and types of you want to make money. Toxic people get tossed out quick.
I’ll be super duper generous and suggest that our antagonist is dehydrated as hell from trying to cut weight for a fight. Hard to be polite when your brain is a raisin. Give him a pack of Gummi Bears and 7 gallons of Gatorade. He’s probably a lot more mellow then. :)
@@thelittlestgiant Douchebags do exist but they don't stick around for long or they get kicked out. This is a twats stereotypical view of what whites act like to other people is what it really is.
When I was a young man, I studied traditional Karate, then followed it with Judo and Taekwondo. After I learnt all I could I studied Krav Maga, Ninjutsu and then Sambo. Finally, I moved onto Thai Kickboxing, and finished with Kung Fu.
Then I put down the magazine and went outside.
Lmao that’s about what i would do if i could only read 😩🤪😝
Ha! That sounds like someone I know....me! 😆
😂😂😂
Wow!! You’re a bad man !😆
🤣🤣🤣Love that last sentence! Instead of “then I woke up” you chose a more original version.
New title: the effectiveness of Karate in movies
*correct title i think you mean
@4 The Moment Studios serge ibaka took on one.
Np .
Maybe I could challenge karate kid....🤣🤣🤣
@4 The Moment Studios hey karates good but literally nothing compared to Muay Thai. Also this is a movie dumb ass. Not real.
Excluding the IP Man movies.
@@xatan3318 hey, all martial arts is good. Are you gonna go against a fucking world champion ship mma fighter in the streets?
We’re lucky someone was there with a camera to capture this spontaneous event
Some people call them movies. Is this your first one.
Nice b8 m8
@@christopherjohnson25 r/woosh
Multiple cameras from multiple angles that no one ever looks into and professional lighting and editing.
@@christopherjohnson25 #youmissedthejoke 🤦
I remember one time I was at IHOP late at night. A group of people were being seated at a table near us. One guy asked if he could switch seats with another guy. That guy asked why, in which the other guy responded, "I like to keep my back facing the wall, it's a karate thing." Karate is about discipline, respect, honor... and taking every opportunity to let someone know you take Karate.
My dad was a police officer. He always sat where he could observe the largest portions of a crowded restaurant as possible. He never explained why until I was much older, and his only explanation was "if there's a problem, I want to see it coming"
Had nothing to do with karate, and he never announced it. People who flash their black belts around, or their six months of mixed martial arts, they rarely perform in actual real life scenarios.
I'd bet on a fresh army recruit just out of basic training over a standard five year karate student any day, particularly how training for both goes in the US.
@@matthewbrown5228 I think that's a trait that literally every single person has, it doesn't make you a badass but like why would you not want to face potential threats lmao WHEN I'M WALKING THROUGH THE GHETTO, I DON'T WEAR A BLINDFOLD, SOME PEOPLE CALL ME A LEGEND
Hahahaha
@@matthewbrown5228 that's cuz cops look at everybody like their criminals. Everybody
@@ephemera2 ooooh, okay, cool. After living with a cop for dad and having a cop as a brother, thank you for teaching me the real truth. They both did such a good job at lying to me for years.
You can think what you will of cops. I really don't care.
Whatever discipline you come from, fundamentals and ability to adapt when shit goes wrong can never fail you…
I tried using this technique but I lost badly because the other dude couldn’t wait for me to get my flash backs in. This movie lied.
*LMAO*
La pelicula jamas dice que seq karate, este imbecil del video lo dice
maybe the technique doesnt suit you maybeeeee
Fight against the wind is good for the mind, but you have to train real fight as well, otherwise will not work in real life!
@@fabiosereno6893 highest probably a r/Wooooosshhh
This is true. I once defended myself against 7 men with AK-47. I was able to dodge the bullets in slow motion thanks to traditional karate
I’m so done 💀💀
Gun kata,anyone?..
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yea bro this is what the us needs to learn when they fight is
@5r55 Deutsch Hunter Nah, it was 100% real
@5r55 Deutsch Hunter Why? They allowed me to dodge bullets in slow mo
The big lesson here, as a fighter, is to note your opponent's strengths, mannerisms, and patterns...and prepare your training accordingly. MJW is sooo underated as a fighter, and as an actor. I really wish he were in more films.
You never fought in your life😅
I have studied Okinawan Uechi Ryu and several other styles of karate. Uechi Ryu incorporates a wide variety of karate, judo, strikes, blows, blocks, kicks, holds, Aikido-like throws, joint locks and take down techniques. It is a very versatile and strong style that came from China to Japan. Still, the best way to "win" a fight is to not be IN a fight. Everybody gets hurt in a fight, including the winner. It's not like the movies.
"...style that came from China to Japan" ... I did not know that.
As a rule, Okinawan Karate came from Southern Chinese Boxing, namely Fujian White Crane style.
@@otisbeck5327 Right. Actually, if I remember correctly Okinawan Uechi Ryu originally came from India to China and then from China to Okinawa.
@@1notgilty by way of the Indian Buddhist priest and Ch'an (Zen) patriarch Bodhidharma, known to the Chinese as Ta Mo (Dah-moh) and Daruma to the Japanese. He is our great grandfather as far as Karate goes.
@@otisbeck5327 That sounds exactly correct. Thank you for the clarification of the various names by which the Indian Buddhist priest was known.
Of course in the real world if anybody acts like a middle school bully in any gym. They're normally kicked out immediately.
Yh lool ego left out the door
That's one of the things I like the most about most martial arts/MMA gyms. That sort if behavior isn't tolerated. (Usually)
yeah. dude was just chilling practicing his martial art in what is clearly a martial arts gym
@El CidFredo Flores I agree. In fact when it comes to women. guys don't discriminate against them, they fall in love with them.
Not in my school tho
Dude didn't know what he was in for. Wait till he takes his weighted shirt off and it shatters the floor and he starts to move so fast you can't see him.
Rock Lee. I see your a man of culture
Goku?
@@terramerc733 oh yeah him too I remember when he was young right
@@GHOST86420 And Piccolo.
@@Quarter_crush_86 yeah him too
The point here is to show that training with Katas prepare you for the actual application of the moves. There are many Katas in any given form of Karate, and each move in a Kata is against an invisible opponent you need to "see" in your mind. You imagine that you are actually blocking and striking, with dedicated and forceful moves, against a real opponent. The movie had the Karateka flashing back to the specific Katas that he had studied, in order to show you the application of those moves in a real fight. Once those moves are memorized, they don't need to be thought about; but rather they are automatically generated by the threat presented in that moment. An opponent usually "telegraphs" their intentions, and a studied pro will respond without thought, using a feint or block--mixed with a counterstrike when applicable.
I thoroughly enjoyed this segment, and I showed it to my son who is studying the same basic form of Karate I studied back in the 70's. He now has a better understanding of why Katas are so vitally important to Karate.
It's no coincidence this video now has 45 million views. It's a realistic interpretation of a professional Karateka's reaction to threats. I just wish the sound track was better....
Thats great to hear.I wish you and your son the best when it comes to karate and kata training.
Having seen the moves being practiced it's hard to imagine how they're viable. It's actually very interesting seeing a person present and how the moves are meant to work
I took a karate class for a few months from an older traditional martial artist. I can't remember his nationality.
The one main lesson I learned is that freestyle karate is vastly different then training. The purpose of training, and practicing those moves over and over is not to use those moves in those orders, it is to train the muscles to quickly respond in specific ways.
During freestyle karate, for example, you don't crouch. You dance, keep moving, keep your opponent where you want them in relation to you. In training, you crouch and lunge and dip down. The purpose of training is to build muscle, and muscle memory.
In freestyle, strikes are quick, and rarely land. You never want to get into a brawl like you do with judo or ju jitsu. You take advantage of openings when you can, and avoid your opponent doing the same.
That's why other fighting styles are often superior. Jujitsu trains in grappling and close quarters combat. All a jujitsu master has to do is grab a jab or strike from a karate master, and the fight is basically over.
Karate is a good introductory fighting style, learning the basics. But branching out, particularly to fighting styles that promote pressure training (ring fighting and actual controlled combat) is going to provide a much greater chance of actually making it through a real life fight. Even with the training I've done (not just in karate), in an actual street fight there is no predicting the enemy. Highly trained officers are killed because the person they were trying to take down threw a punch in a way the officer didn't see coming.
@@matthewbrown5228, yep. In my youth I was small compared to now. Started hand-to-hand and then Tang Soo-Do in high school. Continued Tang Soo-Do on first tour in South Korea along with Yudo and did some Hapkido training on my second tour. Outside of class I only had to use my training two times. Since I left the Army in 1981 I have not had to use it but I also never go looking for a fight. As an over-the-road driver for 27 years I went to some rough parts of our country and never really had a problem except once in Maryland. No blows exchanged but I think he got the idea I wasn't the one.
@@donotneed2250
Been a trucker myself! Not nearly as long, two years over the road (one hauling tankers) and then my wife had our first baby and we both decided that I needed to be closer to home, but I loved the road!
Why are so many people in the comments section taking this so seriously? It's obviously just a movie, relax. IRL he would have busted out the fireballs or dragon punch and ended the MMA guy way faster.
I'm saying
😂😂😂
No ones taking it seriously they all are just being sarcastic 😂
@@ron8614 Hmm yeah....
@@ron8614 My original comment was more in jest then anything else, but all joking aside... Come on. You don't have to scroll down too far into the comments to see people having actual debates about the realism of this scene.
I've been studying shotokan karate for 10 years and I can absolutely confirm that the technique being depicted here, called being the main character, is 100% effective. Unfortunately I've never mastered it because I keep getting beaten up when I try to use it.
Then maybe you have not used it effective enough keep training.
You forgot to be the main character 🤦
The only bad part about his technuiqe was that he kept his arm fully extended when blocking his opponents punch at the end. The video Tai chi vs mma has a good example of why you shouldnt do that.
They had us in the first half, not gonna lie
Lmfao
My son trained at American Top Team in Creek for about 4 years. And I can tell you that there were no assholes in that gym. All the fighters were really nice and polite, very friendly and humble too.
As should be. i took martial arts (Taekwondo, Judo and BJJ) back in my college days. And the first rule we were told was to leave our ego by the door.
That's how it should be, the ones who are humble and respectful especially to new people are the ones who are successful in their craft and don't need to show off, losers like the fella in the video never last long in any actual decent fighting gym and are thrown out like the garbage they are very quickly.
The science behind karate is fascinating. Its essentially learning predetermined moves such that you can avoid the delay of reaction time that you would need when fighting conventionally and making decisions about what your next move is.
Yeah, but the problem with that is it assumes that your choreographed moves will match with the opponent. Once the opponent deviates from your predetermined choreography, you won’t have any natural way of responding
Thats why Karatekas train against every sort of attack there is. Every Punch, every kick. A scenario like that wont happen with full fledged Karatekas. They trained against every move, and even against many weapons, like knives and sticks. They learn to escape and counter locks and chokes. They learn to keep calm and focus through meditation and intensed focused muscle training. I seriously dont get why people call Karate less effective than other Martial Arts. Its primary use is for self-defence. It gets the job done.
@@TheZenhalilboy Karatekas usually don't even do sparring, just practice over-complicated and useless techniques in slow motion. See any professional karate tournament: you will hardly ever see any proper punches or blocks they practiced during trainings, just punching each other senselessly from 20 inches.
@@MrSaiyan333 Karate Tournaments are not meant to knock out your opponent. The Point of these tournaments is to win via points from clean strikes. Ever watched Karate Kid or Cobra Kai? They dont go punching and kicking till the opponent cant stand no more.
@@TheZenhalilboy I'm talking about Kyokushin, where it's usually not point based. But even if they want to win by points, why don't they use what they practiced before? Because those techniques are useless in a real fight, that's why.
ruclips.net/video/W8ZaNTiR38s/видео.html
They don't use any "classic" karate blocks, just randomly punching each other. And this is a world cup.
As long as the other guy knows he's supposed to miss, you're unbeatable.
@JewsOwn TheMedia. try fighting people in dojos my guy
@JewsOwn TheMedia. Pussy ain't ya? Welp, I can't do anything about that, Merry Christmas.
Throw salt in his eyes so he just misses without needing to know
@Jacob Monier Okay? Fuck his belt, show me his fight record.
When Jai has the desire to do any of his Martial Arts professionally (which it's far too late for btw.) that's when I won't doubt his skill.
Half the shit he says is bullshit, just go watch him talk about Kimbo Slice(AFTER he passed mind you), and all the bullshit he actually just made up about the Shaolin Temple.
Hey...i know what its like in the ring
Kumite is hard...harder than kata
“Man, forget this clown!”
*proceeds to not forget this clown*
Yeah man, why you gotta fight blackie chan.
Enough from the clown!
@@safaabdus8364 Why so serious?
Underrated comment
@@shreyanshu9785 Blackie Chan! Come on dude... Hilarious 😂
This is why Kata is so important... To people who think it's just made up movements with no purpose.
With the practice of Kata the movement becomes part of you , it becomes a automatic response.
My Sensi taught us the first self defense move is not to be where you shouldn't be - second is to walk away whenever possible. third is to fight back so you can walk away.
Keep the fancy moves in the ring and for tournaments. Street karate is a lot different.
Os!!!
Michael Jai White fought in bloodsport tournaments for real! He is a martial Arts master!
This is what every weeb imagines themselves to be like when they take up martial arts.
Israel Adesanya is an exceptional weeb.
Your comment is exactly how an ignorant weeb would comment on traditional techs aimed at maximizing damage and pain.
Good job! Your impression was perfect! 😊😊
@@rodrigosierpe5995 The only thing maximized here is you how pathetic you sound. LMAO.
Anyone that only uses one traditional technique will get their asses handed to them in MMA. Opponents don't just give openings like they do in this highly choreographed fluff piece.
Lmao
@@rodrigosierpe5995 found the weeb
This is how everyone imagines how their fight is gonna be like.
I get my ass beat in my imagination 💪🏾
@Indigo V 1. Michael Jai White is a real Karateka
2. THIS IS A FUCKIN MOVIE!
This is why karate had to be banned from UFC - way too effective
That's the only thing about these bullshit choreography film
@@michealharrison2219 lol same.
Hes not only an amazing fighter , but he also can look into the future! AMAZING
Is that observation haki? 🤔
It's just showing the application of kata, what they're for...for the rest, it's simple martial instinct.
@@G_D_R_ oh yes, I suppose you're right. I was just joking
@@lucacasadio3001 mejo così! 👉🏼😎👍🏼
@@G_D_R_ I appreciate your effort to try to write in Italian. :)
Anyway, it's "meglio così". :)
Happend to me too in a real situation: doing a move from kata. I don't know how that happened as it was spontaneous, but it worked and saved someone else from being violently bitten by multiple attackers.
(It was the almost last move of Heian Sundan kata, the one where you do a fast turn)
He should've read the script before challenging him to a fight.
That was good.....
if writing comments was an olympic event, this guy would be up there
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😅😅😅
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Judging by his scant technical prowess, we must assume that it is also the MMA fighter's first day as well.
It's embarrasingly dumb. As if he wouldn't have grabbed a blast double and just owned Mr Miyagi on the ground. Oof.
@@eriklarson9137 But you see, he was using that special karate move where you can temporarily slow down time (a side effect of this technique is that the world becomes black and white) and make your opponent disappear for a moment so that you can practice your counter attack. This was developed in the 12th century and is still very effective to this day.
@@cinedelasestrellas Karate is not the problem here but the movie sure is...
@@emillyyelen5169 Yes of course, there is nothing wrong with Karate, just this scene's portrayal of it.
He didn't know he was in a movie..
I studied Shotokan in my 20s and it saved me alot of times when working at the local 7-11 on the graveyard shift. Shotokan has alot of throws and locks that were explained to me wrongly ( because alot of the instructors didn't know because they were never told) and when I went to other styles I would see the moves done correctly . I then went to Panantukan ( Filipino kickboxing) and Anis ( an offshoot of Fillipino Kali) .Shotokan came in habdy there too. and I learned even more about Shotokan doing empty hand Arnis techniques. and you can really end up with something real nice if you marry Karate and Kickboxing together. it worked for Lyoto Machida. so don't dicount traditional Karate. all martial arts have something to offer. otherwise I wouldn't still be around and I am now 60 and people say I look like I am 48 or 50. so experiment and keep kicking
This is great advice
@@WillSlags thank you Will
at some point in time I plan on doing some you tube videos if this area is not too crowded already. I would show the moves correctly and talk about self defense with and without weapons. and thank you again for your kind comment
@@glennsammon4465panantukan and arnis are my bread and butter, awesome that it works for you too brother
@@glennsammon4465 perhaps try Silat at some point if you want to study just one more.
I've studied martial arts over 50 years. If you disrespect traditional arts it's like disrespecting your grand parents. It's where a lot of what you do came from. I never disrespect or take for granted another warrior. You'd be surprised the damage an old guy can do because of his disciplined training. He will also practice into old age something many can't do with what they practice. Show respect always.
Osu!!!
Nothing like a choreographed film to truly demonstrate effectiveness of a martial art .
@Mandalorian Patriot yeh but its depiction of effectiveness aint it. Karate master vs mma fighter is a matchup wr all know the result of
@Mandalorian Patriot thats just mma fighters who also trained in karate using aspects of karate, not a tradional karate fighter using only traditional karate. The guys you linked are mma fighters who are simply using karate to throw people off with the unconventional hard to predict attacks from creative angles not thought of in the traditional kickboxing/wrestling and grappling mix you tend to see in mma. And naturally when these flashy moves catch people off guard, they are highlights. What you fail to show is that their entire core game plan is not set in traditional karate stance and movements but rather around keeping true to the mma fundamentals and playing pick and mix with their karate skillset to catch people off guard like i said earlier. If you wanna prove your point, stick a traditional karate master or practitioner that isn't already an mma fighter into the octagon like the and see how it plays out. That's what i was talking about, not seasoned mma fighters getting creative lmao.
@Mandalorian Patriot karate here in the uk's dojos is quite different to whatever those guys you linked me were using. Although yeah i did think jiu jitsu was 99 percent grappling as that's all i've ever seen of it in the gracie foundation's training vids, and no i haven't heard of the samurai shit, sounds cool as hell wanna look into it later.
@Mandalorian Patriot bruh what is it with karate senseis and hurting tf out of their students, i had this friend in high school who did karate who always told me mad shit about his sensei putting his students through all kinds of pain 😂😂😂
@Mandalorian Patriot abuse 😂😂😂😂 oh man idk which one either tbh
I do not need a film to tell me the effectiveness of Karate. I have already seen Ryu and Ken from Street Fighter. Therefore, I know traditional karate is legit.
Yeaaaaaaah! Bro you know your job
Lady Undine r/wooosh everybody knows karate wont beat up lets say muya thai etc.
Lol 🤣 great comments here!!
Lady Undine what? Ive studied muya thai mma and shaolin kung fu and i can say that karate wouldnt have any chances against some pure fighter inside the ring. And outside of the ring theres no doubt about krav maga being the best for its dirtyness and pure intent to win no matter what.
Lady Undine and style matters quite a fukin lot. I mean obviusly fighter means more but i didnt mean like 5yo thaiboxer could beat up a 35yo black belt like tf how dumb are you
Let me tell you I've been training in karate for 10 years I was walking home from work one night and 10 guys jumped out at me I told them to leave me alone and I didn't want anyone to get hurt they wanted my wallet I told them this was a bad idea they then all attacked me I flew into a rage all I saw was red i forgot what happened but the hospital said I got my ass handed to me
lmao
NGL bruh I thought this was going in a completely different direction. Lmao
but did you still have your wallet ?
@@batsonelectronics na hospital took that from me
Don’t they teach you to run if you are in that situation 🙄
Wow, the counters were perfect, it’s like those moves were designed to just for when the enemy counters as shown, that will always happen in a fight, which makes this combo unbeatable.
Nothing proves a point more than a choreographed scene in a fictional movie.
Uchikomi is choreograph but works tho
Yeah you're right... it's just a 'movie' :p
Yes its choreographed but a master of one art will usually win against someone who knows a little about many because when you specialize in one area your style becomes more fluent
@@Andyman269 No not at all, check out Mad Dog Xu or UFC in general and you will understand.
I mean, "blackie chan" is michael jai white. He's actually pretty good at what he does. He probably would've whooped the arrogant dudes tail, NOT choreographed.
It’s a blessing he happened to be practicing the very same moves he used before the fight
He practiced ALL the moves
that's the point
Really kind of the whole point of martial arts.
That's how practicing martial arts works. You practice the moves in repetition with no opponent, then try those same moves in the ring in order to calculate their effectiveness and your own efficiency with them. It's the difference between visualization and execution. Read a book.
@@squeezyjibbz7407 Why so serious man? 🤣 I am well aware, I have dabbled in many martial arts, though I am by no means an authority in any. I must have forgot to put my #it’sjustajoke tag.
Never underestimate old school!
Anything is possible when you’re the main character of the movie.
Reasons why he won:
-He can see the future.
-He knows Karate.
-He is the main character.
-He's ... ... Spawn.
Shoulda led with "He's... ...Spawn."
Exactly
He's also Mike Tyson.
@Dream did not expect you here, pleasant surprise.
@SABIN HALL my bad, just looked at the acc. I apologise for my mistake. I thought since it didn't have 123 or some shit at the end that is was legit.
I win the visualization part of the fight every single time; but when real action starts, my opponents don't follow the script, and my ambulance bills are piling up. I now wear a "do not resuscitate" tag around my neck.
Lol, come fight in Canada my friend, or basically any other country except America, the ambulance rides are free.
👆and the fights are probably much easier 😐
@@syckles But of course. We Canadians are so polite that we never hit anyone without asking if it’s alright first, and then we apologize profusely once the kerfuffle is over with a nice hot Tim Hortons coffee🤣
@@norcodaev lmao! 😂 Well done, you have defeated me with that one 😂 👏
And i am now losing the visualization part of the fight because of the amount of times I've been hit in the face
I was mugged when I was 25, having studied karate and not really liked it and found it boring and repetitive. I took my opponent down with a single kick. I had practiced that kick so many times that I did not even think about it. That was when I realized why we do the same moves over and over, up and down the dojo. Thank you, Sensei.
Karate is not my favorite martial art, or the only one I have studied, but that occasion, half a lifetime ago, was a moment you cannot teach. You must see it for yourself.
Just because this story is dramatized, does not mean it is not true. It was true for me.
Pretty sure you just made that up
It was true for me too. As a teenager, some bully grabbed my tie and I reacted instinctively, twisting his wrist and putting him on the ground. Pure muscle memory. It works.
@@ztrisk you have never studied a martial art it seems lol
@@lastgrasp4187 I was in isshinryu for a couple years when I was younger. It was all katas and bullshit. I've learned 10x more from boxing and BJJ classes in terms of actually being able to defend myself.
@@ztrisk "pretty sure you just made that up" - Kiss of Poseidon
Lol
That fight was so clean it almost looked choreographed
When someone gets in a fight with the school bully, loses, then reimagines how it could have gone in their head, grows up, films it, and posts it on RUclips.
Actually. My school bully got accused of murder.
@@glowstickjw I need a storytime. Please explain
@@infinite088 glowstick was never heard from again
@@lategamer6684 lmao
@@lategamer6684 lol
*others may not have similar results, results may vary.
Amazing mind control from the Karate Master! He was able to prevent the MMA fighter from wrestling him into submission...like what happened when Karate fighters tried to get in back in the early 90s they got destroyed by wrestlers and grapplers, Karate is great, builds character strength etc., but no match for anyone trained to fight in MMA
That was a beautiful demonstration of traditional Karate. MJW is a Boss.
-"The effectivenes of traditional karate"
-Proceeds to show a scripted sequence with actors from a movie😒
Ok, check out prime lyoto Machida using karate on the UFC
Ikr
Take on someone who's done it their whole life and and practice it 8 hours a day then talk smack, see how long you last then
Bring a real mmo fighter vs a master karate and we will se the difference. Trust me he'd get obliterated
@@alvarez85yearsand81 as the old saying goes, never underestimate your opponent.
He forgot one essential move:
*DISCOMBOBULATE*
OK THIS ONE IS GOOD LOL
That move was banned a few years ago, on the grounds that its name was far too long!
ahahahahah
An homage to the greatest (fictional) detective
He did traumatize the solar plexus though. :D
@2:12 that 3-punch combo 😂😂😂😂
He looked like an NBA fight where they throw a punch for the 1st time in their lives
Everybody should love Michael Jai White
That's so fake... Everyone knows that on real life the flashbacks are about a sad past.
All my flashbacks are of arguments that I had and then three days later I think of something I should have said.
@@misterj2875 Same, and usually I'm on bath
@@misterj2875 same bro😂😂, fuckkk thats annoying!
Don't forget the power of friendship, its make you hundred times stronger
Anyone who watched Naruto knows...
"In summary: ears ringing, jaw fractured, three ribs cracked, four broken, diaphragm hemorrhaging. Physical recovery: 6 weeks. Full psychological recovery: 6 months. Capacity to spit at back of head: neutralized."
@Morgan Wright lol you are very witty ... but just how many people actually know you’re on the Sherlock Holmes flex 🤣🤣👍
Bmmfff....hahaha
sad that he ain't got many likes cuz most of the people dont understand the reference 😂😂
@@aakarshupadhyay1133 ikr lol
discombobulate! 😉
The huge overhand punches Cobra threw that went sky high over Micheal’s head look super realistic
Any martial art that has competitions, tournaments, and live sparring is legit.
This is one of the corniest things I've ever seen. Everyone involved should repent, including me for watching.
Then let's watch WWE together, starting off with Gold Dust debit
Wait... is this not a joke about how ineffective traditional martial arts have proven to be in MMA?
@@tieck4408 um.. kid every style is incorporated into a UFC, or mma fighters bag. What are you talking about?
Dude same
@@Obi482barely anyone uses karate in the ufc because it’s so ineffective compared to other martial arts.
he won because before he went into the cage he was practicing against John Cena
Cant beleave the other dude didnt see him
You forgot to say who he was practicing against
@@unlxck3255 you can't see him
@@Josh_Tsu1067 How do you know if someone was there?
Or was it Drax
It must be easy to look this badass when your opponent telegraphs all his strikes from a mile away.
It’s a good thing that the MMA guy telegraphed all his moves and didn’t take any angles or fakes, and also that when the dude caught the kick to his middle the kick didn’t hurt him
You know this is Hollywood when an MMA fighter takes on a traditionalist karate fighter and attempts zero takedowns...
And the way he atacks is not like a pro fighter, it's more like someone who got all his knowledge from an action movie, wait a sec ...
Yea an average mma fighter would probably shit on any karate master. In China there’s this random mma fighter that’s going around and absolutely destroying Chinese martial arts masters in seconds
@@verybored2416 Yeah that guy is a badass, beat up some gangsters to I'm pretty sure. He's hated badly in China, makes their fighting style seem to weak.
@@verybored2416 ikr, people dont realise Bruce lee would get smashed by a average ufc fighter
@@MrHammerman97 yea he’s hated so much and I’m pretty sure he went to trial in like the highest court in China bc He was shitting on all thier bs cultural history
The true power of this man is that he can manipulate time and can do flashback at the middle of fight
Lol underrated
Sharingan.
ZA WARUDO IS THAT A JOJ0 REFERENCE
@@numerocuatro2700 nah he's using king crimson
Haha 😂
This is what every traditional martial artist thought would happen since UFC 1. They’re still waiting for it
Goju ryu, there’s a reason why the OGs exist.
I’ve never heard someone say “forget this clown” in real life lmao.
How's about a magic trick? He will make the pencil magically disappear.
Time for you to bring it back
Apparently you never had a real birthday party.
I have, I'm sorry our paths have not crossed.
Biden said it.
Ugh.. No one in gyms act this way. Everyone would boot that dude out the moment he started disrespecting others like that.
Agreed, been to atleast 5 martial art gyms and no one acts like this
Not if they are co-owners ;)
Then you have a little Morgan Freeman action, in the movie Million dollar baby.
Funny you say that, gyms might not have that but the white house surely has one who acts this way
You are wrong, search charlie zelenoff he is an asshole, just like that character
All fight training is useful. A true warrior trains for a fight but aims for peace. Be a warrior. Don't be a jerk.
Yes I did 9 katas in gradings ,and at first I wondered what the moves meant ,but they make sense after hours and hours of practise.Even now at age 82 and 8 years of regular training from 72 to 1980. If someone makes a unexpected hand towards my face I auto block without even thinking about it.
Real Fighters seeing someone who they don't presume is on their level: Either Ignore or Help
Movie fighters seeing someone who they don't presume is on their level: *INSTANT BULLY*
Lol true. I only met one guy at the gym who was a sick about working out. Everyone else was really cool, and corrected my form when they saw me doing it wrong. Movie gym jocks on the other hand...
@@kyle18934 Haha, it's a cliché, but one that makes little sense. Sure there might be a few bullies in some places. But in most cases, fighters are way too occupied with their own training to focus on someone they don't even deem worthy.
@@kyle18934 And of course, you have really chill ones. That like others to grow with them.
@@BlondieRUclips it is a weird cliche, I thought people would be dicks when I went to the gym for the first time. I'm glad I was mistaken
@@kyle18934 Haha, it's mostly a hollywood trope. An excuse for the protagonist to kick some ass.
Blacky Chan, Jet LeRoy he won with the comments alone.
Don't forget Tae Bro!
I was thinking the same thing. lol
How about Bruce Leroy 👍🏼
I was in a fight once, it was 3 on 11, _but we knew Karate._ Ultimately it didn't matter, because those three guys beat the shit out of us.
Lmao
Damn i guess your dojo is not cobra kai
I could watch an entire movie by the time that dude actually swung his punch.
It's made official that if someone use Karate, you must wait for his animation to complete first.
Japan invented the turn based rpgs, so it's only natural their marital arts follow the same rules.
MMA never wins against martial arts in movies, its a fact. They can only ever win in real life.
that you think
MMA literally stands for mixed martial arts. As in they are both of martial arts in fact mma does actually consist of karate in itself.
It's the same thing.
zalbortrox zalbortox what are you on about there are barely any karate fighters competing in mma you guys need to stop watching so much anime and hentai
Boxing, wrestling and bjj are better than karate in any way just get over it
@@bigmack2654 Delusional
This video perfectly illustrates what I've been telling people about traditional martial arts for years now. They work amazingly well, IF the other person has no idea what they are doing
The good news for those who practice karate and other martial arts is that most other people don't have any idea what they are doing in a fight. In that scenario the martial artist has a huge advantage.
@@1notgilty this is true. Any experience is typically better than zero experience
@@joecold1243 Simply the ability to stay calm, cool and collected in a fight when everyone else is freaking out is s HUGE advantage. To paraphrase the poem "IF" by author Rudyard Kipling: "If you can keep your head when all about you, Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,... Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And-which is more-you’ll be a Man, my son!"
Every single punch and kick telegraphed for that movie magic!
Something traditional karate will never beat: the undefeated RUclips comment section.
And now the pernicious influence of the SJW managerial class has rendered the mighty RUclips comment section a shadow of its former greatness.😥
😂
imagine if you could beat people up in the comment section
@@alienated8113 just share ur location I've done it tons of time here Indonesia, jakarta, kuningan epiwalk any day but at 16:00 call me when u arrived we can do it 2 ways fight cause we hate each other or a friendly sparring where in the end we gave each other small lesson and advice done but no one has shown up tho
@@miyu_myu21 That's how people get robbed or shot in the US.
It takes massive balls to challenge Spawn to a Deathmatch
Al Simons ain't nobody to fuck with.
@@decepticonmecha a little sun tan oil and his grappling is useless.
I met Michael Jai White once and he's the nicest guy! And his arms were like Popeye's!
If only karate and traditional martial arts were that effective in reality.
The effectivness of Karate demonstrated by a Movie...
Go watch some Lyoto Machida fights if you are interested in the real thing.
@@burgosmatthew I recommend the one against Shogun
@@burgosmatthew while he might have a background in Karate it’s still MMA
I used to train in karate. You will never use it in a street fight.
There’s a 40 something ammeter MMA fighter in China who went on a tour fighting the best practitioners of traditional martial arts in all of China. 95% of the time he beat them unconscious within 10 seconds, the other 5% was within the first minute. Most martial arts are exclusively practiced against other partitioners of the same art in only sparing match’s so they have 0 actual battle testing even in controlled environments. Workout regularly and due some boxing and your likely have more combat potential then most martial artist. The only real benefit to martial arts has is it teaches discipline and hopefully keeps you to a active work out routine
Based on every interview he's ever done, this is how Jai White actually sees himself.
Do you blame him? 🤣
No but physics disagrees very much
Fighters from the UFC see the same. As they also when interviewed says it's really legendary when they train with him. Even Jon Jones.
@@adammckay665 people forget he won full contact championships against grown men as a teenager
@@kelzreallife8293 yea in karate where you can be disqualified for hitting your opponent too hard
"An old man just kicked your ass"
- Older Johnny Cage probably.
I can confirm the effectiveness of karate against bullies. 9 out of 10 it sent me to hospital.
“Traditional karate”
Immediately uses boxing headmovement*
Is moving your head only in boxing?
@@earthphoenix7068 his foot work was boxing at the beginning
Hahahahahah only boxers can move their heads. What a clown
@@Bigdaddyluv68 everyone knows that boxing focuses on head movement and foot work much more than other fighting sports/martial arts
@TekkenVirus Virus I think the real reason is because they teach you that in boxing classes. Of course sparring plays an important part but you wouldn't come up with that on your own.
As someone who put too many years into karate I can honestly say it’s designed to teach people the importance of carrying groceries
Why?
So I shouldn’t continue karate?
I second this. Black belt test failed, because 70 year old dudes from Japan thought that my toes were once in a wrong position. Repeating the same moves over and over countless times felt pointless.
Also didn't get in shape with Karate. Got in shape by working out when I wasn't doing Karate.
It did teach me to throw a punch and reach with diffetent kicks without ever going out of balance, but no matter how good your tech is you can't do shit without muscles
@@kirogo1969 karate is OK as a sport, but useless in self defense, same as 99.9% traditional martial arts
@@jaster705 such as?
Even tho this an unrealistic outcome as most MMA fighters would beat a karateka it was incredibly satisfying to see cobra who is nothing more than an ego fighter get his bell rung.
Guy who actually knows how to fight Vs guy who knows how to score points in a ring
Wdym not all karate is point fighting
The MMA guy lost because he was wearing women's yoga pants.
Idk about that, women's yoga pants seem like a pretty good choice for fighting to me
@@panic1209 I prefer looking at a woman's a$$ in yoga pants verses a dude but hey to each his own
@@sailguy0321 sounds like you're a sexist piece of shit but to each his own
@@panic1209 triggered feminist
@@panic1209 you like men
Someone seems to have got confused... This is not real and doesn't show the effectiveness of anything.
David Kent yeah true and everyone should know by now that pretty much any martial art can be legit if trained with aliveness karate has done well in mma but it all depends on how they train and if they spar a lot
@@lukeg452 so true it doesn't matter what style you train in as long as you train full contact
brolly 247 yep see Stephen Thompson lyoto machida and gsp
someone who doesn't understand this calm and meditate style of fighting more like Kung Fu watch karate kid 1,2,3 and cobra Kai
And yes every style is good if u practice it correctly
but in my opinion the calm style ones are better than aggressive
but in street fights u gotta be aggressive if u want to win
Thelightskin lantern not everyone who does muay tai is Israel adysanya
I am a martial artist (Tang Soo Do) and a musician (saxophone). If you teach a room of ten sax players or whatever, 7 will usually be no good, 1 will be a pretty good high school musician, 1 may go on to a college music program or army band and maybe one will put in the work at home (not just on band day) and actually get with a band and make a living. Same with martial art practitioners. There may be some black belts who learn things karate has to offer and become proficient in forms etc but maybe just the one out of ten that will take it to a higher level and will make you think that "karate is ok. Goes back to it is not so much the art but the individual and what work and time (s)he put in.
Cobra got what he deserves no more bully or showing off learned the lesson well done Walker.
It looks like he's ready to do some serious earthbending lol
@Asian fiery air*
Spine bending
Yeah the movements he used were very similar to earthbending.
Considering that they based earthbending moves on traditional martial arts, you're not necessarily wrong.
Earthbending is "Hungar KungFu". Toph uses "Southern Praying Mantis Style Kungfu"
Firebending is "Saolin KungFu"
Waterbending in "TaiChi"
Airbending Is "Buguazhang" known for its Circular motions.
“The effectiveness of being cast as the hero in a movie about karate”
@Kaustav Chakraborty ?
Kaustav Chakraborty What a fucking retarded response...
It is true the movie does not show that karate is better or not everything depends on the person who uses it
"The effectiveness of be an MMA script hero" (FightVille) (Warrior) (Never Back Down)
I think we are even
Yep
Against an unskilled fighter a skilled karate practitioner will disable, from range, with a kick. A real kick from a real karate fighter will ground most ppl. It will be to the ribs, solar plexus, or knee and it will hurt like nothing ever before. The average person will feel like they got hit by a truck . For this reason it is a useful defense to master. If you have to engage a knife or bottle attack for example I'd rather have a crippling side or roundhouse kick in my repertoire than wrestling. Both are symbiotic and indispensable in some form tho
Yup! That's exactly how it goes. All the moves you just practiced will be relevant in the fight. Karate wins!
This man might of well just played Kung fu panda clips to us and said it's a accurate depiction of karate.
OMG HOW THST MAKE SENS KING FU PANDA KUNG FU ALSO PANDA???
Skadoosh
Don't even compare this to Kung Fu Panda 😤
My bad Kung-fu panda is a cinematic master peice and the most accurate recreation of mma ever nothing hails in comparison not even ufc or profesional mma.
@@udkc my guy did you have a stroke.
Remember mike Tyson's famous lines
Everyone has a plan until they get punched in face
Damn right...😎😎😎
yep tht why he is a champ
I thought you were going to say...
"I'm gonna eat your children. "
Not really he’s a boxer and boxers are punchers by definition it’s different in other arts. Watch one mma fight and it becomes obvious that taking a punch in the face does not decide anything
@@reallifetherapy1342 Is this a serious comment?
"An angry mind is a narrow mind. Whenever you're angry, you're only thinking about what you can do to somebody. You're not thinking about what can happen to you. You're actually burning out your mind and when your mind goes, your body follows. It's better to make
your opponent angry so you can control the fight.".
- Case Walker
its rare to see kata like this bravo