Italo : Italy's Private High Speed Operator!
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- A trip with Italo, the world's first private high speed rail operator, from Rome to Milan in Prima (First Class.)
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Date of Travel: 27 July 2020
Class of Travel: Prima (lower 1st Class)
Rolling Stock: Alstom AGV
Cost of Ticket: €66.90 (£59.55, $79.70)*
Origin: Roma Termini, Rome, Italy
Destination: Milano Centrale, Milan, Italy
*Currency conversions correct as of 26/11/2020 to nearest £/$0.05
Other info:
The "Self-Propelled" part of the English translation for AGV is basically a rather "clunky" way of saying the train is an Electric Multiple Unit (EMU) with motors under the passenger coaches as opposed to the TGV which have locomotives at either end of the train.
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Italy is so underrated when it comes to high speed rail. Everybody is on about the Shinkansen and the ICE and the TGV, but let's not forget that the Italians pioneered high speed EMUs.
The last time I travelled on Italy's rail network was during my honeymoon, in December 2001. There wasn't the AGV back then, let alone Italo. We travelled mostly on the ETR500, from Rome to Florence, from Florence to Venice, and from Milan to Rome, although the most memorable trip was in a classic carriage with separate compartments, from Venice to Milan, where my wife (then of a few days, now of 19 years) and I had the compartment to ourselves for most of the trip, and we just read, or looked out the window.
I agree. Italy has a very good network and even the older ETR500s are still a very good option imo.
Agreed. And ETR200 is still one of the sexiest trains in terms of design and also well ahead of the time: in the 1930s it already had bogies between the cars, just like TGV/AGV.
"Pendolino" is/was an Italian Patent....that says it all....😑
I was there about a month ago. Took the Frecciarossa 1000 from Naples to Rome. Comfy and very fast. Would love to give the Italo a go.
@@maxart3392 I had to look that one up...but holy smoke ! In 1938, before the war, the ETR200 ( and the German SVT137 in '36) must have appeared to come from outer space !! Wow . And the etr200 remained in use until at the latest 1993 !? Incredible ...
The steam locomotive at the entrance of Milano Centrale station belongs to Fondazione FS, a cultural association that does maintenance on old trains and sometimes opens them to the public. In particular, just behind that steam locomotive you find the Squadra Rialzo, a deposit owned by Fondazione FS where are stocked many old trains from '800 and '900. In 2019 that deposit was opened to the public for some days and it was made possible for everybody to visit the old carriages and to learn about the association's history. Moreover, Fondazione FS operates many vintage trains (steam and electric) all around Italy, once as a child I travelled between Brescia and Pisogne, on Lake Iseo with a steam train and threw some coal into the steam engine :)
Hi Dylan. One of the things I like about your VLOG's is that you leave the text on the screen long enough to really read it. Thanks for that as I tend to be all over the TV looking at the video and can still read.
There is nothing more than a relaxing train ride through the Italian countryside, I loved the video. Keep up the great work and I will see you next week. Stay safe Dylan.
Thanks, will do!
Considering Italo is a private operator, everything on board as well as the ticket price is great.
Great video, Italo is one of my favourite carriers, I always go with Prima :) Traveling 300 km/h is so amazing!
Does "scum class" travel more slowly somehow? 🤣
@@andysedgley Of course. 🤣 Without the complimentary snacks the time flies much slower!
Thanks 👍
Italo is great, been on it twice
These trains are really nice. What i like about trains in Italy in general is the good infrastructure for tourists, lots of information in English and yoj can pay with Wepay when using the Italo vending machines, that's pretty unique in Europe.
I agree! As a foreigner, I found the Italian rail system is pretty easy to use.
Nice to see your Italo review posted! I was in their Prima class roughly a year ago from Venice to Florence. Back then you could choose your beverage and snack! I'm glad you had a positive experience with Italo, I thought they were a tremendous value with very friendly staff.
Nicely done showing not just the platform you arrived on, but also some more of the station!
Milan
I am a recent subscriber and have one thing to compliment you on; you always wave to us viewers when you get caught in a mirror. I know, it is a small and insignificant thing, but it reflects your manners, so thanks.
One more thing; you don't complain much. I've seen a couple vids where I'd describe the sink H2O pressure as poor
and you thought it was OK. The pastry on this train looked pathetic, but you didn't bark. It's wicked cool.
I love the way the Italians have gone for quality and choice , these Italos units and those used by Freccia are the way to go not our 800s
Hi Dylan Sometime in the future we want to travel frrom South Wales to ROME thanks for the information
I commute pretty often between Milan and Venice and most of the times I take Italo in Prima, as it costs just a couple euros more than smart class and is much cheaper than Trenitalia's standard class on a Frecciarossa.
Still, when the prices are similar I tend to choose the Frecciarossas because of their frequency (1 or 2 trains per hour compared to Italo's maximum 7 services a day).
i have been binge watching your videos ever since i discovered your channel😀 love your work!!
Thanks 😁
Haha same! Love the subtitles and footage :)
Also one of the few AGV operators even tho the AGV is the top when it comes to European made high speed trains (even better than the Alsthom new Gens)
I think they are the only AGV operator, am I wrong?
@@lorenzo_contini_7 pretty much they are
Yeah Great Job.
They Managed to Copy a ICE3
@@piusmartin5178 Ignoring your cynism the AGV and ICE3/ICE4 are vastly different under the bonnet.
Absolutely loved the shots of the approach to the station from when you see the old black, steam locomotive against the modern ones. Brilliant!
The steam locomotive in Milan is where there is the headquarters of Fondazione FS (FS foundation), which is the association that restores the historic trains of the Italian railways!
Europes italo is a smart high speed train service to the people. Your video of this trip was awesome.
Thanks!
Finally, Italo. On the list of EMU High Speed Trainset, this trainset is definetly underrated. I'm curious about cabin and service in Club Executive.
Thank You! 20 years ago it looked so different. Roma Termini, Milano... I can remember some pieces. The new trains are adorable!! I hope next year I"ll be there! 😍
The Smart Cinema reminded me of when Amtrak would show movies on the tiny TV's, before everyone could watch movies on their phones.
I loved traveling by train through Italy. It's so different now!
I can't wait to go back some day. See you in Venice, Dylan! ;)
Looks like an especially nice train, and the scenery was gorgeous. Glad you enjoyed a pleasant ride! 🚆
As an American, I am GREEN with envy over all of the beautiful European trains. It just makes no sense why we can't have such beautiful high speed trains here. Airlines probably preventing it. Other than the malfunctioning hand dryer, everything looked top notch 👌. Great job again, Dylan. Have you considered doing travel shows for American Public Television? I think you would be super at it.
The new Acela trains on the US east coast are made by Alstom - same French company that built these trains. The new Acela trains are currently being tested and will be in service sometime in 2021.
@@chuckskarda4611 thanks for your information. I will look into it. Stay well and Happy Holidays
12:36 hi, about the congestion in Florence, there's a HS bypass in construction that will go under the city and have its HSR dedicated station near the actual Firenze Santa Maria Novella station (that will be relegated for regional, inter-regional and intercity services).
The same thing happened in Bologna until 2017, when the Bologna AV Station opened (an underground station, that runs under the platforms of the historical Bologna Centrale)
Thanks for the info!
I enjoyed the ride, right along with you. Yes, the vending machines for a trip of that length make total sense...and I would pay the difference to be in "Primo"...Loved it.
Roma Termini was brilliantly captured. I haven't been to this station since my last trip in the mid 90's. The station has truly transformed into a super tetminal. The trian is okay for a short journey. I like the 1st class seating accommodations. The 2nd class seats were okay. I wasn't crazy about the food service. It's always best to bring your own food. Overall, a good travel video. Well done.
Glad you enjoyed 😁
Great vlog Dylan. Thanks for helping me stay sane during lockdown. Merry Christmas stay safe.
Thanks!
Went from Florence to Venice with Italo seven or eight years ago. Apart from our two seats the entire Prima carriage was taken up by an American family tour party including the tour leaders. We had a chat with them and found out it was a Disney company and most families had tagged this tour on to the end of a Mediterranean cruise. We looked it up on the internet to find the cost of the tour alone was phenomenal! I hate to think how much each family was paying for it and a cruise beforehand. We were worried that it might get a bit rowdy but all the adults were exhausted and all the kids were happy playing on their tablets and phones. The speed was impressive at first but beyond Bologna the line to Venice has yet to be upgraded so I don’t think we got above 160kph. Nice way of arriving at Venice though.
I took Italotren from Venice to Milan in Prima class in October 2021. They checked vaccination records before letting you board the train. In contrast for Trenitalia high speed train during that same period only checked vaccination record on board the train after it had departed the platform. On board Italotren I was offered an espresso in addition to the usual soft drinks and water and a choice of biscuit or cracker. The train was punctual and I'd take Italotren again.
first thing when i come to italy is having an original italian pizza!
When you leave Termini station, do not go to the front entrance. Leave by the left hand exit. Right across the street is a pizza takeaway. They also do other typical Italian food and you can sit in if you wish. Fantastic pizzas by the slice. Never had a bad one yet.
Great video! I have to say that the Italo AGV train looks amazing inside. It's good that most seats are in airline style configuration unlike SBB trains. I think take a train between Rome and Milan is a better choice than to fly :-)
Thanks! I agree, one of the nicest interiors of any train. Almost no need to fly anywhere in Italy imo.
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Yep, Rome-Milan air route has suffered a lot since the completion of the full HS route between the two cities and now the train has more than 70% of the total annual passengers travelling between them
I live near Venice and I’ve travelled many times on high speed trains in italy. I must say that although Italo tends to be a little bit cleaner than trenitalia’s trains and his personnel is gemerally more polite, I’ve always found Frecciarossa and Frecciargento seats more comfortable than Italo. Not a big difference though, let’s just say that I would prefer the trenitalia offer if the price was the same, but if you find and offer on one of the two for a certain route then go for it: you won’t get it wrong anyway
Thank you for another excellent review ! I've not yet travelled on a Italo service, but from your comments, and film, the trains look really good. The external livery is much more refined than the Frecciarossa trains, and I much prefer it. The on board catering on Trenitalia high speed services, before the pandemic, was much more varied and comprehensive too.
Dylan, I think the trip experience would be a good one and as you reported the train was in fine shape. Thanks for sharing as well as please stay safe .😷
Reminiscing...I miss Italia especially traveling by trains! Thanks Dylan 🙏
Always enjoy your video's Dylan
Thanks 😁
Nice effort using the one way system in the train station 😂
its the effort that count :)
Your tip about booking in advance is a good one, i was in Rome in September and wanted to go to Florence and the ticket price was around £100 on the day!
Impossible.Train ticket from Rome to Florence can't cost that much maybe someone was trying to swindle you
That looks to be a very comfortable ride; a no thrills ride mind you but it's only a 3 hour journey. The view of the countryside would make me want to get off at every stop to take a day's expedition. I can't help but notice how large and really nice the train stations are (or appear to be) in the U.K. as well as in Europe. Keep them coming Dylan, I find them inspiring.
Thanks for the maps at the beginning 😊
Thinking in English, one would thing that Roma Termini refers to terminus, although plural. In fact it refers to the nearby ruins of Roman baths or terme. It think of Diocletian.
Nice! I didn't know that so thanks for the info!
For this 3 hour trip I’d need coffee. Thanks Dylan. 🙏👍
Thanks, Dylan! Always a great video, as usual! I love this kind of high speed train: too bad it is only on one floor. It looks spacious and still comfortable. I like the landscape. Tell me, the food we gave you was good? It was worth it?
Thanks! Yes, the food was pretty good. Was worth the extra money for Prima imo.
Wow, now Roma Termini looks so great, do you have an idea when was it remodeled? I have been there in 1992 and 1995, and both years the surrounding streets and the station looked even scary, there were rude beggars inside, and the whole building didn't look so clean. Now I'm very much impressed positively and amazed of how state of the art the Station looks, you can breath progress, modernity and even a good amount of high class, I bet, now this station is one of the best in Europe. Only the platforms look like in the 90's, buy even at that time they were kind of OK. The Italo train looks really well, the seats have a very cool design. Very nice ship, looks very modern too, top of the line. Yes, the illumination and the general Color Palette looks so great. Beautiful "Starship", totally worth the price to travel on it..! Milano centrale tracks and Dome always impressive too, awesome ride thanks..!!
I guess it underwent many refurbishments after the second half of the 00s, with the launch of country-wide HS trains. It was a breath of fresh air for Italian railways in general, with rising ridership and more investments. In the 90s railways were slowly getting forgotten due to car rise and air travel popularity, but now Trenitalia is investing more. They even bought new Regionali trains (slower ones, for commuters), which is something rare per se, but what's more is that those actually have plugs and extra room for bikes. Trenitalia finally jumping into the present
Looks to be a nice train, always good to see the toilets are well maintained and the seats in the cars look very comfortable. Thanks for the video
Good one.Even in India our railways are receiving LHB alstom coaches.
Dear Dylan
Thanks for your excellent video.
I have exactly the same opinion of you. I've travelled several times on Italo trains in both classes Smart and Prima: a great experience each time! The seats in Prima are really comfy, the coaches and WC clean and the services were on time.
The web platform for booking the tickets is better than the platform of state operator Trenitalia.
The only negative aspect of Italo are the announcements : if you travel between Venice and Milan you have many stops and you are still disturbed of the same messages about prohibition of smoking cigarettes, louf phone calls...
Italian railways needs to be concurrenced by another company of trains: it is done with NTV (Italo)! And I must recognise that Trenitalia with its service Frecciarossa/Freccia 1000 has really improved! Italy needs a concurrence to be excellent!
Ah yeah, there were a lot of announcements on this train 😅
Thank you very much for another excellent video ! I have not yet sampled an AGV of Italo, and as soon as I am able to leave the U.K it will be a high priority !
Glad you enjoyed 😁
Nice to see non “ironing board” seats. Another great review/VLOG Dylan!
Glad you enjoyed 😀
Great train. The $4 extra for prima is a must if you're traveling alone. You can get one seat just for you and snacks.
For a family guy like me the 2nd class looks good since they have Center tables in some areas but they don't provide family cabin like in German's ICE (my standard) as an option.
I also liked the vending machine. For tourists that don't want to interact with the language, they are an easy escape. Again, as a family guy, I don't mind any options since I bring my mini supermarket with me all the time 🤣🤣🤣
Love it! Thanks for sharing Dylan
nice train to milano; nice snacks provided lovely looking at the views.
Great video. I love travelling by high-speed train around Italy. :)
Thanks! Me too 😁
Comfort class, if I remember correctly, is always car 5 and sometimes 4 as well.
The one time I took Italo, car 4 was Prima
Thanks for the info! I think they also sometimes change it based on demand.
Excellent report as always Dylan -Thanxs
Thanks 😁
Next time,Club Executive only so you can review the lounge in Rome! How do those vending machines work? Cash or credit card? Being that you're a UK resident,would your credit card be compatible with Italo's vending system? Because Europe is awash with numerous passenger rail lines,if you wanted to ,you could go from Rome back to the UK perhaps within a day but no telling how many train changes you would have to make. Two ideas for future videos 1)Review what hotels you overnight in and 2) Rome and Milan surely have suburban trains--hop on board for say,a Rome to an outlying suburb and back,let us know your experience
Thanks for your suggestions! On the train, you can only pay with cash.
Enjoyed that vid very much Dylan, great train, lovely journey through the heart of Italy, and what a lovely station to arrive at, Milan, Bellisima ❤️
Glad you enjoyed!
Bellissima* double s 😁
Another excellent video from you Dylan, Thank You, train itself was impressive and what appeared to be a relaxing journey. again, Thank You.
Thanks 😁
Very impressive looking trainset, inside and out. Color combination is nice too. Not impressed by the station, looks like every major city's airport terminal, the classic ones are much more interesting. Vicenzi snacks are delicious, I buy them in Canada.I'm really surprised other companies have not adopted the vending machine style cafe-car as this provides packaged items, perfect for our current pandemic situation. Again great locomotive shot, thanks.
thank you
Yaaassss!!! I was waiting for your new videos man!
Hey, this can be really dumb question...
Have you ever missed a train?
I did missed train when I was stuck in traffic back in Korea.
I haven't missed a train but I tend to leave quite a bit of time between trains where possible.
yo dylan i m italian and in theory, in milan there is the steam locos exposition, but i m 40% sure of that, cause i ve never been in milan, but i know for sure that that steam loco there, doesn t work but it s just a monument
Leggi il commento di Lorenzo Contini
@@marco_grt4460 è quello che ho detto io alla fine è un monumento
Hi Dylan I enjoyed the video alot. I like that it is a long train ride, 3 hours. I can,t wait for the next video!! Merry Christmas 🎄⛄❄️🎅
Thanks! You too!
Hey Buddy this is a nice train pity you couldnt see all the sceenery oh well these things happen take care cheers
I'd love to see you going on a lo series maglev
Dylan: It's a nice looking train. excellent country side. But you know. sound barriers are sound barriers. Unless technology comes up to make it a REALLY SILENT train, it's going to be hard to do.
Stay safe. Don't forget to make a Christmas train movie for us and everyone in the UK can view it on boxing day too. Cheers my friend!
If you like vending machines you will love Japan. :) Every traveler video I see from there shows off rows of them, selling practically everything.
Yeah, they're literally everywhere there!
Before covid i managed to travel from Milan to Rome on Italo Smart class with just 19 euro !
great video on the Italo trains really like the interior and seating also the mood lighting i guess the no dining car saves alot of money but it does take away some of the experience of travelling long distance also Rome very historical city did you see the architecture from the old roman empire and previous regimes ?
Thanks! Unfortunately, I only had about an hour in Rome so I didn't get to see much.
@@DylansTravelReports oh ok next time you can get to explore 👍
Hi Dylan, enjoying a mix of your vlogs on a freezing cold day outside. I often wonder if you use local languages on your travels, (your not long 6th form or Uni ?), I was always thankful everyone spoke English everywhere. Incidentally, I saw your mate NonstopEuroTrip did Milan to Pompeii on circumvesuviana . You would love the whole journey to Sorrento to report, (and stay a while for a holiday!). There was a viaduct (Vico Equense ?) which took a wobble during an earthquake and was repaired by a dodgy looking slab of concrete wedged in from the side. Hope its fixed by now. Like you we are all wishing to travel again soon. PUSB, Marching on together... Take Care.
Thanks! I always try and learn a bit of the language before visiting. Always see it as polite to at least make an effort.
Tech. question? Why are the base/web of the rails in track painted white?? To reflect the heat? Thanks!
you get it right
Very very beautiful tran
Have you ever thought about doing travelling videos on coaches?, e.g National Express, Megabus, Greyhound, etc
Tbh, coach travel isn't really my cup of tea.
@@DylansTravelReports ok then. Let's hope you can go back to Monday's & Friday's soon.
Sorry you didn't get any footage of the Club Executive class -- or did I just miss it somehow?
Probably it is not allowed to enter this class without reserervation!
Great video Sir Stay safe
Thanks 👍
Can you please do some videos in wales because I saw you have not done any in wales but if you do I will recommend there is a train from cardiff to holyhead and it is famous for its food and there is the high speed train to Swansea to London Paddington bye
Yes, I'm hoping to once possible.
Great job been to italy a few times but never took a train . -from the usa. Do they collect tickets like they do here in the usa?
Thanks! Yes, they check tickets.
Moito lindo trem bala gostei Dylans boa viagem ai boa tarde italo show
If I had made the design for the toilets I would have put the tap and the dryer farther from each other, as I see it in the film it´s quite a big risk of getting the tap started anew if you put both hands under the dryer.
That is quite a common thing on new trains - assuming the sensors work!
Very interesting. Thanks.
Well Italo is amazing but i still prefer Frecciarossa
Why italian trains ever more beautiful than German trains..
Love your videos😄😄
Thanks 😁
Impressive service. But what they provide is more a refreshing towel, then something to sanitize your hands or the table. If you look at the package it cosists no alcohol or something else with sanitizing purpose.
another quality video 👌
Thanks!
Hi there - I spend a lot of time watching your Channel and really enjoy watching the videos and am careful to click the ‘Like’ button each time. However this morning I noticed that the vast majority of my Likes have vanished which is really annoying. I’ll re-Like gradually.
Thanks for what you do - truly amazing. ☺️
Thanks 😁
Self service food! When I travelled Firenze-Roma on Eurostar Italia in 1998 we enjoyed full dining car service. Sad.🇳🇿😕
Nice vedio . Thanks
Just be aware of mainly East European girls who carry satchels and clip boards offering to help you to your train and then demand money. They look for passengers who appear confused. Be firm and tell them “No”.
This train had a few interesting features. It is a good idea to have the vending machine snacks with all the standard cafe car service curtailed for now. The smart cinema, well, I'm not sure how that worked. It looked like the old airlines as you see in movies sometimes, when they showed one film that everybody had to watch. You'd better like the movie. At least here you have to choose the car and it's not in every car. It was clever how they called the budget seats the smart fare.
Salut Dylan s 🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️
Thanks Dylan. I know you've shared the info on what gear you use to film, but would you please share that info again? Thanks
This was filmed with a GoPro Hero 7 Black but onto the Hero 9 now.
Comfortable journey.
awesome ❤️❤️❤️❤️
4:11 BELLA ITALIA!
This week's question: how do you decide what class of travel to take? Is it a question of funds, or do you have other parameters at play?
For my leisure journeys, I often travel first class just to avoid rowdy crowds. :-) I'm overly sensitive to stimuli, so I don't do well in crowded, noisy areas. A group of people chatting loudly or otherwise being rather lively in their behaviour can easily ruin what would otherwise have been a very enjoyable trip for me. First class can then be a major relief, especially if it also gives me access to waiting rooms at stations. First class's patronage just behaves themselves that much more calmly and quietly.
But I have also very much come to like the added... well... class that comes with it, like a proper complimentary at-seat meal service, or even just the posh leather seats and the privilege of the waiting lounge. :-)
It does, of course, depend on the funds, at least somewhat - I don't travel in first if I simply can't afford it. But if I can, and the price gives its value in return, then I definitely go first.
@@DJTrainBrain Who's DJB NL when he's at home??
Where it makes sense I'll go in first class but if there's quite a big price gap between 1st and 2nd, I'll just go in 2nd.
it litterly looks like if a train and a space ship had a baby
Lol
Prin Italia treci cu trenul în toate călătoriile în Europa......
ai timp să vi și în România my frends?Succes 🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️🙋♂️👍👍👍👍🚆🚆🚆🚆🎥🎥🎥🤝🤝🤝🤝
Seems a little sad how far behind UK trains are......
(Sad in America)