ASUS GT-AX6000 Unboxing + Bell 1.5gb Homehub 4000 PPPOE Passthrough + 2.5gb Lan
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- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- In this Video I will unbox an ASUS GT-AX6000 Router and do a tutorial on how to setup your Bell HH3000/HH4000 to get internet speeds higher than gigabit using PPPoE Passthrough using asus router (bypass Bell Modem).
In short the goal of this video is to show Homeowner how to reach internet speeds higher that 1gbps if their ISP supports the internet speed.
0:00 - Intro on the Router, My current speed issue
2:53 - Unboxing GT-AX6000
6:33 - My Current Setup and Router (RT-AC3100)
7:19 - Setting up the ASUS Router + Connection to Bell Modem
8:24 - Important note on the Connection to Bell Modem
9:35 - Setting on Bell Modem and PPPoE on ASUS Router
14:58 - Speed Test on ASUS Router
15:58 - Speed Test on Computer with 2.5gb Connection
16:59 - Speed Test on Computer with 1gb Connection (Limited to gigabit)
17:16 - Next step, suggestion on a 2.5gb Switch
18:22 - My 10gb Fiber Intranet Connection
link to some 2.5g switches. I have not tested any of them so do your research before buying them:
SODOLA 5Port Multi-Gigabit Unmanaged Network Switch,|5 x 2.5GBASE-T Ports
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Binardat 5 Port 2.5G Switch, 5 x 2.5 Gigabit RJ-45 Base-T Ports, Unmanaged Multi-Gigabit Desktop Ethernet Switch
a.co/d/2WqAsJ9
Binardat 8 Port 2.5G Switch, 8 x 2.5 Gigabit RJ-45 Base-T Ports, Unmanaged Multi-Gigabit Desktop Ethernet Switch
a.co/d/8YnA8gB
Zyxel 8-Port 2.5G Multi-Gigabit Unmanaged Switch for Home Entertainment or SOHO Network [MG-108]
a.co/d/4wk5mTB
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Awesome, so sophisticated
Nice video, i am looking to use the same setup when i receive my bell, dumb question do i need to use PPOE or automatic is fine ? what is the difference not too tech savy
Hey, thanks for the comment.
If you don't use the PPPoE pass through on the Asus router, the asus router will not get an external Ip address, it will get an ip address from dhcp on Bell model (something in the range of 192.168.2.x).
If you are not planning to use the DDNS on the Asus router or something like Aicloud, then it wouldn't matter and you can use auto on the asus.
You can do some research regarding double NAT with Bell modem.
With DDNS you will be able to access your local servers with ports forwarded on the Asus router externally with the free asus domain name; if this is too much information, disregard it 😊.
Question for you, what is the bell username and password do i need , do you mean my bell online account or something has to be provided by bell?
Hey, no the username and password you use to login into your Bell account is different from your b1 username and password. The one you use to login to bell account, for example to see your bill is usually your email address and preferred password. The one you use for pppoe username, start with b1. You can call bell to get the username and password or you can simply get the username from your account and simply change the password for the b1 username. If you are interested I can show you how to do it.
Hi are you still using this how is the wifi like and can you stop the RGB light from cycling thanks
Hello, yes I still have the router in my basement. It is probably one of the best routers that I owned. The wifi on both 2.4 and 5g are strong the range is crazy good! I live in a 2 story mid size house, and the signal strength from the basement to the top floor is 4/5 bars. And yes you can customize the rgb as you like rainbow/solid color or even completely turn it off from your asus router webpage.
So the asus router ethernet output won't put out more then 1gb? I'll have to get that network switch to achieve 1.5gb? Or is it used for more then 4 ethernet ports to connect?
Correct, may I ask your ISP and the speed of your internet. Also how many devices are you planning to have 2.5gb connectivity? If you plan to have only 1 device then the ASUS GT-AX6000 has one 2.5gb WAN and one 2.5gb LAN and you are good. But if you have multiple devices with 2.5gb LANs then you need to buy a managed or unmanaged 2.5gb switch. Does this make sense?
@parhamsan makes sense thank you I'll need to have multiple devices that will use 2.5gb so I'll need a switcher
Will this setup also work with the new Giga Hub from Bell?
I have the same GT-AX6000 router but not setup with PPOE. So I get double NAT.
Hey, yes when I had 500gbps from bell I used my old asus router to bypass the bell modem, do you have hh3000 or hh4000? The process should be the same but for some reason with hh3000 it was easier to bypass it.
@@parhamsan I have the HH4000 aka Giga Hub.
@@helsan74 oh sorry didn't pay close attention, you have 2 options as there is no actual bridge mode on the Bell hh4000, one is the PPPOE passthrough and the other one is DMZ and advanced dmz. In DMZ you add the MAC address of your asus router on the Bell dmz page. In both options you get double NAT and the public ip changes on the asus router frequently. But you still should be able to access your public ip. I am using a dynamic dns client to take care of that.
@@parhamsan I already have a ddns with a domain pointing to my router and sub servers on my home network. I treid once the DMZ... but was really unstable.
This is why I'm curious to try the PPPOE option. What are the benefits for PPPOE over simply having a cable from GigaHub to the AX6000 wan?
@@helsan74 I have tried both, and the only thing I realized is that with PPPOE my connection is more stable. Some people have issues with not getting full speed with PPPOE method on older asus routers but with GT-AX6000 I did not see this speed issue. There is an excellent article from a guy who did experiments with both DMZ and PPPOE, but he had a different asus router which was causing him slow upload speed with PPPOE, so he went the DMZ way and is confirming that it works for him.
itnerd.blog/2022/08/16/revisiting-how-to-bypass-bells-hh400-hardware-with-your-own-router/?amp=1
What I also realize is that with both PPPOE and DMZ, whenever I update my asus router's firmware my connection becomes unstable, meaning I have to restart both Asus and bell router to establish internet connection again. Have you ever experienced that issue with DMZ?
Thanks.
@11:00 - is there any actual setting that needs to be configured in order to enable "PPPoE Passthrough", or is "PPPoE Passthrough" enabled by default? Your description seems to indicate that "PPPoE Passthrough" is enabled by default as long as no DMZ setting is set - is that correct? If not can you elaborate on how the "PPPoE Passthrough" needs to be configured?
Hey, on the Bell modem (HH4K) you don't need to do anything as long as you follow the settings I recommended @ 9:36. However if you go to 14:17 there is a setting on the ASUS router you need to change to enable the PPPoE under WAN->WAN Connection Type->change it to PPPoE.
Keep in mind you would need your b1 Username and password from Bell. Do you know how to get the b1 username and password?
With this setting you will get double NAT anyways (one on Bell Modem and one on ASUS Router) but you can defiantly access your public IP that the ASUS modem acquires with free DDNS service.
@@parhamsan: I actually do not have a HH4K yet but plan that I might be able to get service at my home next year so I'm learning ahead. I'm sure I'll be able to get my b1 credentials so that part should not be a problem. I (would) use my own custom home-built router (Linux box) which I currently use with a VDSL modem in bridge mode. I'm looking at a way to eventually swap the VDSL modem in bridge mode with the HH4K in "PPPoE Passthrough" mode so want to learn how that "PPPoE Passthrough" is configured - definitely looks like it is enabled by default on the HH4K...
@djsixottawa true, no need for additional changes on Bell Modem. Any router that has PPPoE as WAN connection would work. There is a way to completely remove the HH4000 but I have not tried it yet, good luck with everything!
@@parhamsan: nice - any chance you can try to remove the HH4K altogether and make a new video about it? otherwise any link to any 'howto' on how one bypasses the HH4K altogether? ( I've read about how this can be done by swapping the SFPs but that is only for HH3K, not HH4K which has its SFP integrated... )
@@djsixottawaI have not tried it and not intend to do it because it's against Bell terms and conditions, but sure I will send you all the info I researched as early as tomorrow morning.
You can start here:
www.reddit.com/r/bell/s/cEDQYcqUXD
The upload letancy on speed test without this router is the same number??
Hey, I think the latency on the Download and Upload would be the same. If you goto minute 13:12 you can see that the DL/UP latency without the router (speed test directly from my ISP modem) is around 2ms. Now if you go to minute 15:46 you can see that the latency (speed test on the ASUS router) is around 1.71ms. So if not better, the latency should be the same as your ISP latency. In my case I think since I am bypassing the ISP Modem, My latency is actually a bit lower so you should expect the same. Any latency lower that 20ms is perfect for gaming and is considered lag free latency.
@@parhamsan thnk u ♥️
Im with rogers. Have 1.5gb througg xb7 modem for cable. Will it work if i plug modem into 2.5gb port through bridge mode then plug my pc into the other 2.5gb port to receive my speeds? I dont know much about the internet stuff but i rather not purcahse this router if i wont be able to get the speeds.
Hey, yes it should work. In the case of rogers ISP you don't need to set any PPPoE credentials. What I suggest is to test the pc that has a 2.5gb nic with the rogers modem/router first to make sure it gives you speeds higher than 1gb. I don't have XB7 modem from rogers, but seems that the ethernet port number 4 is 2.5gb (orange bar beside it). If that's the case you put rogers modem into bridge mode, and connect from port 4 of rogers to the WAN port of the asus router. Then you should get 2.5gb on one port of the asus router. If you need more than one 2.5gb connections, then you need to buy a switch (managed or unmanaged) and connect the 2.5gb from asus to one of the 2.5gb ports on the switch. Then connect other PCs with 2.5gb lan to that switch. Check my other video, I am using a Mokerlink 2.5gb unmanaged switch and so far it has been solid! Let me know if you have any other questions!
@@parhamsan thank you appreciate it. Any software issues with this router? Updating fine etc? Bugs? Before I purchase
@@parhamsan I'm mostly getting this to see if it will help with buffer float for the QoS features and gaming features. recieve some packet burst in call of duty currently with just my gateway xb7 which I have tested and is currently receiving more then 1.5gb of download speed. As of last night I hit 1.7gb down. 30-50 upload. I recieved an F on bufferfloat test. I'm in a condo townhome which everyone is on Rogers. Hopefully this router helps a bit. If not I'll just return it.
@SassiTV No, I also have Gt-AX1100 as my second router in my main floor and I have to say i have 0 issues with the asus AX6000. The wifi range is crazy good and having 2.5gb wan and 2.5gb lan on the ax6000 is amazing. One thing that I don't recommend is the aimesh on the asus routers (if you have 2 of them). But if you only use ax6000 as your main router if should be fine. I am getting 4/5 bar for wifi from my basement to the top floor of my house. It's a good investment but I bought it when it went on sale for $299. There are also some settings you have to tweak to get higher than gigabit speed which I can help you with when you buy it. Good luck with everything!
@@parhamsan thank you! Very helpful. Gonna order it now. Will get back to you.
it does need a modem to connect it?
Hey, it depends on your ISP, are you still talking about Bell as an ISP?
Hello Parham, I recently purchased GT-AXE11000 and followed the steps in the ASUS website you showed. but when I apply those settings ( PPoE, bell logins) There was no internet in my router. Internet LED on router turned red. Did you do anything while setting up modem... The speed that showed on speed check on Asus router is accurate but i am getting just 500 mbps for my 3gbps package. I don't know what trick did you do.
Hey, didn't quite catch what you mean, so when you added the PPPoE credentials on the ASUS Router are you getting internet on your Asus router or not?
With PPPoE passthrough you should be able to access your Bell Modem on 192.168.2.1. Do a speed test on the Bell HH4k/Gigahub and see the result are you getting the advertised speeds on both the Bell Modem and the ASUS Router?
Obviously because of the 2.5gb WAN port of the ASUS Router you will not get anything higher than 2.2 Down/2.2 Up.
One more thing, make sure to use the Black LAN of the Bell Modem to the 2.5gb WAN of the ASUS router. What is the computer that you are testing your speed? Does it have a 2.5gb NIC?
With this configuration you are getting double NAT (meaning one external IP on Bell Modem, and one on the ASUS router).
On the Dashboard of the ASUS router, do you see an the WAN IP (External IP address) that is different from Bell Modem?
Make sure to set these values on the ASUS Router:
AiProtection-->Enabled AiProtection OFF
Game acceleration-->QoS-->Enable QoS OFF
(Under Advanced Settings) Firewall-->
Enable Firewall No
So turn all of the AiProtection, QoS, and Firewall OFF
After that restart the ASUS Router and let me know how it goes.
@@parhamsan first of all thank you so much for prompt and detail response…speed on modem and router asus dashboard speed in wired connection is as advertised.. but in wifi it’s it’s just around 600 mbps.. I know my devices are laptop which can handle only 1gbps, iPhone 12pro max, 14 iPhone pro max, 2023 iPad Pro 12.9 inch. .
what I mean is when I chose, PPOE and bell login and apply that setting there was no internet connection in my router and switched back to previous settings, now when I check WAN connection type in app it shows DHCP.
@@GHUMGHAMCANADA
Ok, I see now, that definitely means either one of your b1 username or password are not correct and you are not getting PPPoE passthrough on the ASUS router.
May I know the format of the password you are using for the b1 bell username:
The b1 username has a format of:
b1xxxxxxxx
and password is usually either given to you, or you can change your password on your Bell online account. It should be 8 character/number long (exactly 8 character long mix of alphabet and numbers).
The b1 password is not the password you use to login to you Bell online account to see your bill and usage!!!
You can change you password from this guide:
support.bell.ca/internet/connection-help/connection-hub.how_to_update_my_bell_internet_user_id_and
Nevertheless, is there any specific reason you want to PPPoE passthrough?
If you are getting proper speeds on you Bell Modem and ASUS router (web gui) the it seems to me you are having wifi setting issues rather than LAN speed correct?
So this is more likely wifi setting and tweaks.
to give you an idea, I have recently switched to Bell 3/3gb plan and the max I can get sitting close to my GT-AX600 is around 1.4 Down/1.3 Up on wifi 6.
600mbps seems slow to me and something is going on.
Are you devices connected to the ASUS wifi or the Bell wifi?
sorry the link I sent you seems to be old use this instruction to change your password for the b1 username:
1- Goto www.bell.ca/ on any browser
2- Click on login/register on the top right
3- Log in with your email and password
4- Click on the "My Profile" in the middle top of page
5- Click on "My Bell"
6- On the Left side, under "Service profiles" menu find and click on the "Internet-b1xxxxxx" BTW thats your b1 username that you can use for the PPPoE login on the ASUS router (it is case sensitive)
7- Find "Internet access password" and click on "Edit" next to it on the right side
8-Set your new password
9- Confirm your password
10- Note: Password Must have 6 to 8 characters, including at least one letter and one number.
Sorry for the confusion, if you still cant change it let me know, have a good one!
@@parhamsan thank you so much, I just want my wifi speed to at least go up 1gbps.. currently I am just getting 500-600 mbps on my iPhone 14 Pro Max.
Hi
Its still capping me at 1 gig for some reason
when i do the speed test on the routers website it shows the 1600 download. PC has shows 2.5gb on control panel, but speed test is coming back to 700/680
Hey, may I know what service are you using is it bell? Do you have above 1gb service?
@@parhamsan i have bell 1.5gb
my router is getting the full 1600 download speed and 1gig upload but my pc is capped at 1 gig@@parhamsan
@Sengh1999
oK, so you are getting the correct speed on both the Bell HH4000/Gigahub modem and on Asus router
Game Acceleration-->internet speed test but not on the pc that you have 2.5gb NIC correct?
Make sure to set these values on the ASUS Router:
AiProtection-->Enabled AiProtection OFF
Game acceleration-->QoS-->Enable QoS OFF
(Under Advanced Settings) Firewall-->
Enable Firewall No
Let me know how it goes!
Man you put me to sleep.
Hey, thanks for the comment, at least I am happy that you can use the video as a sleeping pill to go to sleep!!!
@@parhamsan You are welcome. Please do more' put me to sleep videos' like this so that I dont have to listen to the same ones
@slebon622 I am sorry if the video was boring as hell 😂, obviously I'm not a professional youtuber, just tried my best to share my experience with this router and Bell internet my service!!!
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