Littorio - WW2 Battleship League Division 2 - Historical Build with
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Italy's second entry into the battleship league, the Littorio! Will she be as much of a dark horse as her fellow ship the Andrea Doria was back in division 4? This video was originally recorded under the 1.08.2 so there are some minor changes between the ship you see here and the ones in the battles that took place under 1.08.9 R2.
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Captain of the 1st Company: Treefrog
Veteran Sergeants: 1stplaceonion, LCG Canyon, Welshy
Sergeant: Jackie, Twitchyknees, Alerik Rahl
Veterans: Telemonian Dan, Sunless Sky Nova, Threadoflength, Darth Vendar.
Battle Siblings: Jacky Chan, nagebenfro, scurvekano, Cpt Graftin, Icd, Iroey, Zadrias.
These Italian main gun turrets look like they have angry eyebrows, I love it so much. “I’m sending an extra pair of shoes, and your ANGRY EYES, just in case!” ~Mrs. Potato Head
As an Italian player on warthunder, this satisfies me
UAD really needs to allow boiler and engine machinery to be shifted fore-aft independent of the funnels; I think another viewer recently suggested that moving the machinery away from the funnels incurs a weight penalty representing trunking for fresh air and exhaust gases.
Just for pointing out the Littorio's had actually a triple bottom instead of a twin that also was used to rebalance the ship when it got torpedoed by transporting the water from one pugliese system to the other, I don't think is going to make any difference in the league but is just a little funfact.
A triple-bottom does increase the ship's survivability, so it could make a difference.
25:15 if we credit the Littorio with refits and upgrades that
1) might have been made,
2) had she survived the war intact, and
3) were Italy able to keep her navy supplied properly,
then we do Hood a grave disservice by building her as she was in May 1941.
Its just a gen1 radar, not much.
I pointed this out in reference to Richelieu being as she was post-1943 refit in the Hood vid.
@@marcoalesi8163
If they’ll not build *every* ship as closely as possible to its actual state at a given date, and instead hand-wave in components, why not build *every* ship in its best-possible design, ideal-state configuration?
@@dougjb7848 what would have you added to Hood to represent an ideal configuration?
Even with refit Hoods a dead ass anyway lol
OH, jeeze, UAD's inability to perceive angled armour belts would really compromise a re-creation of the SoDak class.
I love this ship. I think the Italian ships are some of the best good looking ships. The only thing I don't like is that aft barbette is way to skinny. I would have just stayed with the same one as the fore turret.
Looks really great but if you put barbettes beneath the single secondary guns then you got it even more realistic because if you go back to the moment this hull came up in the game there was a picture with a really good looking littorio
Drach is amazing. Thank you for having him. Appreciate the videos
Any chance you can update the guns of the earlier ships - the first ones used a factor of 2x on the armour penetration, but the last two have used 2.4x It seems a little unfair on those earlier ones. Looking forward to the battles, but who's going to do the ramming this time? :)
You guys should this again with the NAR mod. The gun penetration numbers are much closer. I got 37 inches of pen at 20km with just tube powder 3, tnt 4, and standard shells. Gun length is 50 calibers. Even the reload was spot on at 1.32.
Drach ya forgot those 90mils are in raised platforms!!
We can’t add the platforms - UAD has very limited secondary barbette placement
@@BrotherMunro ah sorry! I thought those smaller main gun barbettes can be used.
The trouble with the super-long guns:
No Italian captain would ever lower them under 45'(degrees)
What if you went with a larger caliber of main gun to get the pen station numbers you are looking for? I know it's not accurate but neither are the 48 mile long cannons you are using.
I feel like I would have gone with shorter barrels and super heavy shells to try and take her poor accuracy problems into account.
The problem with that is that the game associates higher barrel length, therefore muzzle velocity with better accuracy, when in reality higher velocities seem to have consistently been a cause or contributing factor to worse accuracy. Even as far as gameplay balance is concerned, I feel like higher velocities should give you worse accuracy. One of the primary defining features of Italian guns of this period was very high velocity, so it'd be strange to give them short barrels
the Itallian issues with accuracy stem almost, if not exclusively, from too loose tolerances and bad quality control in shell production.
By all accounts / estimates, the guns themselves and the fire control was probably very good ( straddeling the british with her first salvos at Cape Matapan), but the shells were just so bad that scoring an actual hit was completely down to luck, as the guns could be perfectly sighted and layed, and yet two shots from the same turret, could go in wildly different dirrections.
actually the Roma has the lupo radar..... she was the only one fitted with the radar
Random question for recreating these myself, does Vittorio Veneto (and Roma for that matter) have any major differences to Littorio that you'd have to change or could you just copy and paste her 2 times to get the whole Littorio-Class family?
could you build the hms iron duke please its one of my favorite ships its so obscure
27:13 But that is wrong?
Littorio had a fwd and aft armour belt. The fwd belt extended 35 meter beyond the main belt and was 130mm (5.1") thick, the aft belt covered generators, steering gear and the shafts being 100mm thick (3.9").
These areas where also covered by increased deck armour: The forward extension was 70mm (2.8") thick and the aft over the steering gears even 100mm (3.9").
It was not "all or nothing"
naval-encyclopedia.com/ww2/italy/littorio-class-battleships.php
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I also tend to disagree with the main belt values.
Usually when all details are ignored Littorio is considered to have a 350mm (13.8") belt. Then I would add the two splinter liners with 36mm (1.5") and 24mm (0.9").
You were wondering were your weight went? Well there is some weight.