JUSTICE FOR AMY ROSE
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- If you think Amy shouldn't be in Sonic 3... well... I don't know what to tell you, you're just wrong. Here's why though!
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Sonic the Hedgehog[b] is a 2020 action-adventure comedy film based on the video game series of the same name published by Sega. The film was directed by Jeff Fowler and written by Pat Casey and Josh Miller. It stars Ben Schwartz (as the voice of Sonic the Hedgehog), James Marsden, and Jim Carrey. The plot follows Sonic, a blue anthropomorphic hedgehog who can run at supersonic speeds, who teams up with a town sheriff to stop mad scientist Dr. Robotnik.
Development for a Sonic film began in the 1990s but did not leave the planning stage until Sony Pictures acquired the film rights in 2013. Fowler was brought in to direct in 2016. After Sony put the project in turnaround, Paramount Pictures acquired it in 2017. Most of the cast signed on by August 2018. Principal photography took place between September and October that year in Vancouver and on Vancouver Island. Following the negative reaction to the first trailer's reveal of Sonic's appearance in April 2019, Paramount delayed the film release by three months to redesign Sonic.
Sonic the Hedgehog premiered at the Paramount Pictures studio lot on January 25, 2020, before its theatrical release in the United States on February 14, and received mixed reviews from critics. It set the record for the biggest opening weekend for a video game film in the United States and Canada and grossed $319.7 million worldwide, becoming the sixth highest-grossing film of 2020 and the highest-grossing video game film adaptation in North America.
The film has spawned two sequels: Sonic the Hedgehog 2, which released in 2022, and Sonic the Hedgehog 3, which is scheduled for release in December 2024. A spin-off miniseries, Knuckles, starring Idris Elba, released on Paramount+ on April 26, 2024.
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Fun fact: For those who didn't already know, Amy's debut game, Sonic CD, released in 1993, whilst Knuckles debuted in 1994. Amy debuted FIRST, so it's only fair that she get introduced! I think the Knuckles series would've been a REALLY great place to introduce her, but eh, what's happened has happened.
Amy was useless in Sonic CD. There was no reason to include Amy in that game. Amy in the Knuckles show would add yet another unfunny gimmick
@@ling8956 Almost as if that was her introductory game.
@@dragondelsur5156 And, Timeline wise(if we go by origins)Amy was Sonic first friend before he met Taiis
@@sb14andmore50 That's true.
Movie Amy would genuinely be a fun character. I can see them giving her a similar personality to the old games
Amy embodied the same love and empathy as Maria- that's why she was the only one who could reach Shadow. It wasn't just "oh right, maybe humans aren't evil" it was hearing Maria's own words coming from someone else, knowing her wish wasn't dead. If anyone else is given that role the scene loses all meaning.
By your own definition the importance is the emotion behind the words. Not really the person who said them.
@@fightingmedialounge519Well that, and Amy was very similar to Maria. She goes above and beyond to see the best in people (after E-102 Gamma proved to her it was possible), so she trusted Shadow to do the right thing. I know Gamma isn't in the movies either, but it's just an observation I made.
This is why it's considered to be butchered in Sonic X. They had Chris do this instead of Amy. It has to be Amy that does it in order to have the full effect.
I swear if they have Wade do that scene in the movie...
@@superplushroompower-up we barely know Maria. Her similarity with Amy begins and end with being kind.
@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 Because nobody really cares about a human character being in that role. People wanted Amy to be the one to have that conversation with Shadow like in the game.
Sonic movie fans are the type of people to say Amy would steal shadows screen time then be cheering and applauding at the honeymoon scene between Rachel and her husband 😂
You seem to be thinking of two separate crowds there
@@fightingmedialounge519Agreed. And I'm pretty sure the latter group doesn't even exist.
@TheHallow31 Oh no, they do
@@christopherford39 Wait, really? Weird.
@@christopherford39 yeah, but they also don't really think about amy or shadow in relation to screen time.
Amy is an important character. She needs to be in the 3rd movie.
And what is she gonna do, break Sonic out, confront Shadow and become a love interest to Sonic?
@@umzgaming2260 She does not need to be the "Hero" of the movie, not sure about loved or how the movie should deal with their "Relationship".
@@umzgaming2260 I mean, yeah? Amy is solely one of the reasons why earth is still fucking existing in the sonic series. Shadows' character also developed further thanks to her, and got better. Breaking Sonic out was also extremely important, if he never got out, everything would go to hell.
@@umzgaming2260 Put a little imagination, dude, you all know the movie is not going to be a complete SA2 retell.
That’s too many characters
Finally someone who knows what he's talking about, my respect.
Hell yeah, Toonsite! I know your stuff. The artwork in your animations is so nice!
Hell, I didn't expect to find You here Toonsite.
@@ChannelPupAmy Rose deserves her time to shine! Seriously, she needs to talk to Shadow about Maria's wish.
Didn’t know that Amy was still getting hate, I thought we left that back in the 2000’s
Some of it’s from the fans that ship Sonadow…
I have always loved Amy Rose since I was a kid watching Sonic X, so seeing this type of hate towards her sucks tbh.
Sonic x version of amy is the one i got introduced to, than sa1 and sa2 and such, and it was the amy i knew
@@SonicTheBlueBlur15 Every time I see her, I always hear Lisa Ortiz’s wonderful voice. She’s still my favorite Amy voice right next to Cindy Robinson because she’s been getting even better lately. 🩷
@@tonymata8070Jennifer Doulliard, Lisa Ortiz, Cindy Robinson, and Shannon Chan-Kent are amazing voices for Amy Rose! But Lisa Ortiz and Cindy Robinson are mostly my favorites.😍💕
Maybe the hate SOME people give her is justified.
@@IamQuietKrys What do you mean SOME hate? The reasonings people give are either wrong, hypocritical or fueled by mysoginy.
Whenever people say “It would take precious screen time from Shadow” just remind them that shadow only has four levels and a handful of bosses in sonic adventure two and still left the biggest impact in the game
true! Shadow is about 1/6th of the game. He’s proof that you can make a HUGE impact with not a lot of screen time.
Shadow was supposed to be dead at the end of SA2 and his character arc went nowhere afterwards.
That's true and the fans loved him so much that Sega brought him back having us think was he real or fake all along until his own game confirmed to us that he was the real Shadow all along thanks Eggman!
@@gutembergnery7985Yeah, people seem to glace over the fact that Heroes never acknowledged if Shadow was a robot or the real deal, it was just Rouge being all like "Shadow *COULD* be a robot or he could be the real thing"
@@sb14andmore50 yeah pretty much
Amy and Rouge played important roles to both Sonic and Shadow. People who think they should NOT be in the movie are just wrong.
Right?! They're essential to Shadow's backstory. Unless they add in Omega early, who the hell's going to kick Shadow out of his death spiral?
I absolutely agree
Agreed
I agree
I'd argue Amy's scene with Shadow is the most impactful thing she's ever done in the franchise
I'm not really that kind of guy who'll always defend Amy, but being a fan of her is honestly really painful. And as someone who can handle criticism and opinions, I think Sonic fans spread hate and criticism on the character way too much that it starts to become tiresome and harder to accept.
And it's kinda crazy how many characters got nothing but hate over the years: Amy, Big, Charmy, Wisps, I'm not even talking about extended cast from cartoons and comics, that's another level stink pit of Sonic fandom toxicity
Amy is basically the fourth member of Team Sonic at this point. Her not being in Sonic movie 3 would be the most surprising thing in my life.
she's technically the second (in canon) member before knuckles arrived, so knuckles is the 4th actually😅
@@user-sd3vd9nz2p 🤣
@@user-sd3vd9nz2p Didn’t Knuckles first appear in Sonic 3 before Amy appeared Sonic CD or is Sonic CD and then Sonic 3?
@@j-dawg859 the canon goes like this: Sonic 1, Sonic CD, Sonic 2, Sonic 3, so Amy was actually Sonic's first P2 and even the games show that Sonic 3 was the last 2D game to feature a Team Sonic member, that being Knuckles
She might be at the end post credits scene, maybe they're saving her up for a Sonic CD adaptation with Metal Sonic
If Sonic 2 can have Tails and Knuckles, Then I don’t see what’s wrong with including Shadow and Amy in the third movie
If they're not including Amy because "loves Sonic" that's incredibly dumb. Amy hasn't been obsessed with Sonic since Generations! It shows that the creators haven't looked at a Sonic game or show since Sonic Battle.
Lol that’s 95% everyone of the fanbase they act like Amy is this “physco obbssesed sonic stalker” unironically not even as a joke , lord Amy even when hasn’t shown any affection for sonic it’s not good enough, people want her to act like this boring mature mom of the group 🤣
@@naitsabes6222 I'd rather her be the mum of the group if it means she's included TBH. Also her shift in character was due to Sonic Forces and having to mature quickly when Sonic was away.
@@YujiUedaFanI wish they actually established that but they sadly didn’t which is so baffling it would make so much sense for the happy bubbly girl to have her tone and attitude completely change after being in a war were she thought her hero died , but nope people say Amy changed becuase sonci didn’t want their stalking her no more I’m like yeah sure that’s why Amy would change 😂
@@naitsabes6222 I like my HC more since it makes a lot more sense than a sudden shift.
@YujiUedaFan maybe if the movies didn't make sonic a goofy dipshit, amy wouldn't have to be the "mature" one
I didn't hate the knuckles show, but I do agree Knuckles didn't get enough focus or character development to do, it feels outta nowhere when he say "this is my home." I definitely agree they should've incorporated more lore or characters from the games to feed the sonic fans
(apologies for this being long)
Personally, I got it. He did get some good character development. He learned how to relax & enjoy more types of entertainment. Someone who has spent their whole life fighting with ONE goal take a long time to figure out how to settle down or even realize they SHOULD settle down.
Wade is also now wiser and more experienced, (him & Knuckles are literally Sokka & his swordsman teacher,) G.U.N was more properly integrated, we have characters to connect to G.U.N in a way that kinda *forshadows* Rouge appearing at some point with how that lady knows so much about Knuckles & other aliens.
Speaking of the #1 Knucks himself (seriously, he's my favorite, and here I am defending his "lack" of screen time), most if not all times Knuckles wasn't focused as much as Wade, he wasn't really doing anything. He was either just chilling, or was just doing something that wasn't as important at the moment as what was going on with Wade. I agree in that I wish we did get to see more Knucks, and it does feel like some stuff could've been done better, but I also see now that they did the best they could with all that was going on.
Honestly, I hope we get to see more of Wade's mom; she was awesome, she's badass, and I think she did the most in helping Knuckles get in much character development, and I. LOVE IT. Knuckles was losing a sense of purpose, and I love how helping Wade and his fam helped himself as a person in return. He has a new sense of purpose now, and honestly, I think bringing Amy in would've REALLY taken that away.
Knuckles & Wade got enough spotlight in there already, we DO NOT need any new MAJOR CHARACTERS in an f-ing MINI SERIES! 😂
Then you'd have a HUGE reason to complain about with screentime! "Omg Amy stole the show, it was supposed to be Knuckles! Wade was already enough! 😭😫"
Oh and let's not forget the ton of Easter eggs, all we learned about knucks' past, then there's more about G.U.N's spotlight importance I didn't mention, and other things that actually make more than 80% of the series worth being the way it is.
And with the problem of "too many humans"... I think they're getting better at making humans feel better in the universe. The G.U.N agent dude is very interesting. Like bro's a killer with pent up bloodlust. Then also of course Mrs. Whipple, Tom, Robotnic & Stone, the kids, and the whole epic wedding crash take-back think. And now just the way any of the Sonic trio react to anyone is enough for me for the most part. 😂
And c'mon. These aliens are literally coming to OUR planet which is FULL of humans! WE'RE EVERYWHERE! How can humans NOT be involved? Thinking about if they decided to do the film stories taking place in space and only visiting Earth (which is the only way to get a lot less humans), I personally think that would have made it much worse of a movie. Not nearly as entertaining. It's just the newer games & old shows all over again or a Star Wars + Star Trek parody as live action. Then there'd be so much CGI, it may as well be completely animated.
I know right, but since the focus was mostly on Wade, it should have been called, “Wade Wipple and knuckles.”
JUST IMAGINE HOW MANY GIRLS WILL ASK THEIR PARENTS TO BUY AMY MERCH AFTER SEEING THE MOVIE 😢 WE NEED AMY IN THE MOVIE!!
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That would be awesome to see as well as for rouge, it so much easy money for paramount that’s why I’m not sure they wouldn’t want to add them
I highly doubt Rouge will show up, however Amy is much more marketable and appealing to little girls.
@@Xenox02-vu9rq it'll hurt me if Rouge doesn't appear,,, i really wanna see a Rouge and Knuckles interaction 😢
@@naitsabes6222 Come on, Paramount! covered b00bs don't hurt anyone 😭😭😭
@@Kuhory. Well, if Amy will already have very little to shine, Rouge less so, unfortunately, although I heard that Jeff wanted Rouge, but I don't know if her dynamic with Knuckles will be as many expect.
Anyone who says we can only have one new character per movie is completely forgetting the fact tails and knuckles were established in the same film
And even if you make an argument, that tales appeared in the post credit scene of the first film, then that means both sonic and tails debut in the same film, which still proves the argument that we can only have one animal character per movie. As the series goes on, I understand that they will need to slow down. The amount of characters brought in, but I’d say two characters per film, isn’t asking for too much as long as there is a decent plot to justify it
Not to mention that Sonic and Eggman were ALSO established together in the first movie!
Pfft! It's as if they think the Sonic series should be *sigh* a sausage fest.
@@aliminator1310Well, you can't exactly have a Sonic series *WITHOUT* Eggman
@@sb14andmore50and let's see what will they do when Eggman's actor doesn't apear anymore because he's gonna leave before this new movie
Seeing people talk smack about my favorite pink hedgehog breaks my heart 💔
Same 😭
@@iam_alanaf6206 🥺
If Amy's not in Sonic Movie 3 I will be incredibly disappointed.
I'm happy you talked about her being a damsel in destress. From how I saw it, she was a damsel in distress in the first game she was introduced, and when she was saved by sonic she was inspired to be a hero like him. Her love for sonic is what started her development. Sonic isn't her only personality trait but he is a very important part.
Wasn't established in cd that she had totem cards that could predict the future
@@jskywalker58 well I think those are just a hobby of hers and not something super serious
@@chanabanannaanimations6884 Tell that to Frontiers.
@@dragondelsur5156 bro I wish I could
SA1-Heroes, Sonic is Amy's only character trait. Unfunny
Amy deserves respect like other female heroes. As a true Amy fan, I love Amy!
I'm an Amy Fan too!😄💕
This is seconded
She’s a long shot for sure, but someday, I would love to see Cream the Rabbit make an appearance in a Sonic movie.
It’s also a great potential for the more “adult” Sonic characters-Vanilla and Vector in particular-to hang out with the human adults. Vector is a detective after all. Maybe he can help with Chris’s police work?
I completely agree, I believe Amy is the heart of Team Sonic that could really hold the form of them together in future film installments.
Amy needs to appear in the film, in fact, I think she would have more importance throughout the franchise than Rouge. Hoping to see the pink hedgehog! 💙
JUSTICE FOR AMY!
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Yes
SONAMY!!!!
@@NinjaGirl490yes SonAmy forever 💙💖
@@SuperMartinezGamers6.1SONAMY!!!!🤩😍
Sonic’s 15 & Amy is 12…💀
I actually agree with this take 100%. Both Amy AND Rouge are key characters in the franchise, at least one of them should be introduced in the movie universe so they can play some kind of role in shadow’s story, otherwise the studio isn’t really using the IP to its fullest.
Also the people that say that Amy shouldn’t be in the movie come from Twitter. Pup you should know by now that you won’t ever find smart opinions on Twitter.
Movie Amy needs to make an appearance!
I mean if people think Amy doesn’t matter and doesn’t need to be in these movies than they don’t know a thing about her since she’s one of the most important Sonic characters, and with the 3rd movie adapting SA2 then it’d be really odd for her to not show up when she’s an essential part of Shadow’s arc, she’s literally the person that got Shadow to remember his true promise to Maria and get him back to the good side, if it wasn’t for Amy, the heroes might’ve had less of a chance at stopping the Ark and even if they still did, Shadow would still be against them instead of with them, saying Amy doesn’t matter and doesn’t need to be in these movies is just kinda dumb (which goes for Rouge too)
Amy is literally why Shadow gave up destroying earth in the first place, why would she not appear in the third movie?
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Because her role can easily be retconned and given to someone else lol I hope she shows up tho!
@@zigzagintrusion
Going by that logic sonic could easily be replaced by another character with super speed powers, you can't simply replace Amy, because her personality is the one that fits best, no other character in the sonic cast(besides Cream) would have faith that Shadow could redeem himself in the last minute.
@@willbrgamer5137Chris literally filled in Amy’s role for that moment in Sonic X.
@willbrgamer5137 That's reaching at best. I'm gonna have to agree with the other guy. Getting through to Shadow was the only useful thing Amy did in SA2 as far as the story is concerned. Up until that point, she's just a tag-along.
If she is included in the third film, they're gonna have to give her more to do to justify her existence in the movie. She can't just exist solely for that one scene. Otherwise, yeah. They could easily give that role to another character.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'd like to see Amy's fangirl and sassy side, it always seemed kind of fun and memorable, I wouldn't even mind if Amy stopped being a fangirl afterwards, but I really miss that very memorable Amy trait, as lately that side of Amy has been lost a lot.
It could work and may be fun if done respectful to Amy's character. I wouldn't mind Amy to be Sonic's fangirl at first too, say, after he saves her.
As for sassy side, you probably mistake game Amy from Boom and Fleetway Amy. Sure, fortunately game Amy is sassy now thanks to Frontiers and Tweeter Takeovers, but she wasn't like that in the games until 2022
On the idea of “Amy taking too much screen time from Shadow”, if we talk about purely just the cutscenes in Sonic Adventure 2, Shadow probably honestly had the lowest amount of screentime of the main cast, I think even in the original game Amy had more screen time purely by hanging out with Sonic and the others, but Shadow was more of a lone wolf character so even in the dark story he honestly wasn’t on screen as much as the others, but that didn’t make what he got any less notable
SONIC FANS WHEN SHADOW WONT BE ON SCREEN FOR 2 SECONDS😡😡😡🤬😡😡🤬😡🤬😡😡🤬😡
yeah i too am tired of them trying to turn Amy into Sally instead of letting her be her own thing. Sega 100% owns Sally anyway so if we REALLY need a "girlboss," do we need to mangle an existing character into that mold?
The unfortunate thing is Sally's like garbage to Sega and they want her to be completely forgotten, so making Amy girlboss and leader of the resistance is normal because it's new to Sega of Japan.
But I kinda agree, aside from obsession with Sonic we need all the previous traits should stay with her like short temper.
I just hope Amy stays consistently well-written character and she wouldn't be treated just as gag like in 2000's games and Sonic X
I see Amy being introduced as this lonely hedgehog like you said. I believe hedgehogs are a really rare species in this universe so she'd be sort of by herself all these years. The only thing she has is the prophecy of a super powerful hedgehog that so happens to be Sonic(Him having "Nah too boring of a job for me" kinda attitude). She has searched all over the universe just like Tails to meet her hero so she's REALLY passionate for him. She has never been shown love to, yet she demonstrates care for everyone in her path, which will definetly confuse Shadow if their hog to hog talk ever happens. But here's the catch: she is really worried about the future, contrasting with Shadow having to let go his dark past and Sonic's ways of living in the moment (maybe he'll also have to leave Earth or the chaos control thing you said could happen to also go into the "letting go" theme). I also think she's gonna be really excited to understand Planet Earth and be amazed by everything she sees. She might jump into situations without thinking a lot like Sonic, but more so out of curiosity.
Also, on the Rouge part of things, I can definetly see them doing some sort of backstory for her. Maybe she had to fought for her life everyday so she became a treasure hunter. She knows how much the Chaos and Master emeralds are worth so she knew she couldnt lose this chance, afterall "All jewels in the world are" hers "to keep!!".
I just think this movie will have an overall theme of loss, death, letting go and not be too worried about what's going to happen in the future, just live in the moment
As Sonic would say: "Don't turn back, always run forward, and never lose your step!!"
TBH, Rouge should have been introduced in the Knuckles Show.
I fully agree, like, there's only 4(or 7 if you count Manic, Sonia and Scourge)that's almost as bad and/or rare as Knuckles being the last Echidna, there's also other species in the franchise that we don't see enough of(Fox, Cat, Bird, etc)
@@YujiUedaFan I did too. But learning how Marvel adding characters, and then throw them in the movies to confuse people who only follow movies. It's better if Knuckles show was a movie with a big budget and stakes. It's a 3 hours miniseries that could've been cut down and tweaked. Come on.
@@sb14andmore50 We have 3 birds (excluding flickies) abd 2 cats (though one is from another dimension). Lately we also saw two more Foxes in Sonic Origins (also in Sonic Prime as a cameo).
@@YujiUedaFanThat's why I said rare, there's barely any other same species of characters in the franchise, we have Jet, Wave and Storm as the birds, we have Big and Blaze as the Cats, and those two foxes in Origins/Prime were nothing more but to show that, before Tails met Sonic, he was bullied because of his features(his two tails)
Sonic the hedgehog 3 is the PERFECT movie to add Amy and rouge idk what else to say ngl other than this would be the perfect movie to introduce them in considering they both had pretty big roles in sonic adventure 2 which the 3rd movie is going to be heavily based on
I miss How females were Written 20 years ago were falling in love was not considered a weakness While yes, following love, should not be the only goal for a woman or anyone for that matter it should not be looked down on. And Princess peach in the Mario brothers movie is one of A few examples of a healthy girl boss. With justification of being Better than the male lead at something
Amy has also been very relevant in Sonic media lately too, she’s been in Frontiers, Origins, Superstars, and Dream Team, and she was playable in all those.
In Sonic Prime, all her variants had decent roles to play.
Murder of Sonic takes place on her birthday.
So, she has been getting a lot of time to shine in other media, so I think she should be in movie 3, too.
Also, the reason most of us are going to see these movies are for the cartoon talking animals.
Same reason transformers fans watch transformers, it’s for the robots not the humans, I’m looking at you Michael Bay
Let Amy be herself and shine in the movies! I'll be rlly sad if she doesn't get her moment with Shadow in movie 3 if that plot is what they go for.
Me too if someone takes amys part it would not be cool, chris already did that in sonic x they better mot do it again
@@SonicTheBlueBlur15 For real!
I do hope Amy and Rouge shows up in Sonic 3, but it feels unlikely. Especially learning that Jeff Fowler isn't a fan of Rouge and he wrote for the Sonic movies so it's concerning.
I love Amy. She's one of my favorites (honestly I didn't mind the change in Sonic X with Chris taken Amy's place, would be great if it was a combined effort with Chris & Amy, as another Human character is like Maria exists in present and destroyed the world would destroy another human like Maria and Amy stating the same words and pointed it towards Chris would've be a nice detail to that scene) and I hope she gets the respect she deserves.
I do dislike how they're handling Amy nowadays. I love how unapologetic Amy is with showing her love for Sonic, though at times SEGA went overboard with how she acted, which is where the fans pointing it out and they course corrected too hard. Amy is really an incredible character when you really take a moment to understand her character.
EDIT: I would love to see more Human OCs in Sonic stories. Heck, I WISHED there was a Human Avatar with no abilities for a fun change in Sonic Forces. But alas... no dice. I mean both Sonic animals and Humans co-exist in the same world after (which is confirmed in Tails Tube).
Have you read IDW? I feel like Amy in IDW is a pretty good mix between all her other characterizations.
@@insecure8926 I have the comics. Not all of them, but the early ones.
I love the one where Sonic is looking for Amy and she instantly shows up and Sonic comments "And like clockwork she appears. How does she do that?" which I find very funny.
PREACH! People treat old Amy like she was a kanker sister or something and it made me really sad. She has a big heart with a lot of room for everybody in it
SHE NEEDS TO BE IN THE MOVIE!!!!!
Me too
WE ALL DO!!!! 😰😰😰😰
I definitely agree that
A. Amy would be great for more female representation to reach the younger demographic, but Amy's character is more than just being a gaga fan girl. Her "all loving spirit" shows her as the literal heart of the franchise. Amy's character helps give Sonic compassion. Each of the characters bring out something like that; Tails: Responsibility
Knuckles: Strength
Shadow: Maturity. Amy shows to Sonic that to truly help people, it's just to slow down and be emotional support. Especially since movie Sonic is more emotive than game Sonic, because there are little writing restrictions.
If shes not in it, I will be rather heartbroken.
Me too. 😭 I’m actually pretty nervous that we’re so close to the movie’s release and we haven’t heard anything about Amy. I really hope they’ll surprise us with her inclusion in the upcoming trailer.
@@JumbledNoises. As am I; if shes not in it, I really don't have the heart to see it as I don't care about Shadow.
@@shivasthong4924 I completely get that.
Also I think people are severely underestimating how important Amy and Rouge were to Shadow's story. How can they do a proper Shadow story without them?
And I do say that some of the people that are saying we don’t need Amy are the people that ship Sonadow (which I don’t really have an opinion about.) A lot of those fans don’t like Amy.
Anyone claiming the Sonic cast are too "alienating" for audiences are clueless or insane. Cute, superpowered animal friends is the most textbook definition of 'crowd pleaser' imaginable. Becase Disney, Dreamworks, Illumination, Pixar...charming animation is literally their business model, why are we pretending this is different JUST for Paramount?
It really seems like these people are desperate to find any reason to deflect criticism of the sonic movies despite the obvious flaws they have, the knuckles series is a great example of this.
These characters were literally made to be marketable in multimedia and it's insane how even Sonic fans act like out-of-touch movie execs.
Who is claiming this, and is there actually enough of a presence from them to care?
I swear this just the classic shadow cannon nonsense all over again.
@@ChannelPupOne Question Is Your Yt Intro An Remake Of Jp Sonic 1 Clay Ad With Flashy Lights And Sonic Dancing on An Car
@@anotheryoutubeaccount5259 Literally every all-animated movie powerhouse would disagree with you.
I’d probably cry if amy doesn’t get in
SAME!!!! 😭😭😭😭
Yeah, it's disappointing
I’ll bring tissues because if the movie ends and I see no pink hedgehog IM LITERALLY YELLING IN THEATERS “WHERE TF IS AMY ROSE!!”
My boo deserves her spot
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Probably in the post credits scene of 3.
"My boo" 💀
Amy is embodiment of positivity
Amy deserves to be in Sonic 3 cause she is the reason why shadow was able to turn to the good side in SA2 if rouge is not in it then its fine but Amy needs to be in it!
I mean that could be done for any compassive characters. Movie Sonic is an example of that
I feel like the writers gonna take place on amy, by a human character to talk with shadow :/
@@3DoublePoint Probably Jo Jo who is Tom's Niece and gave Sonic his shoes.
@@brickzoneanimations8395Or maybe even Maddie
@@sb14andmore50 its gonna be mostly either Maddie or Jo Jo
While Amy has already justfied her role in Sonic 3, I would munch prefer her in her own flick where she can be the real star and not be over shadowed by Shadow
Thats true… which is why i think sa1 movie woulve been better before sa2 movie, that way we can introduce others like amy and such in a way that it connects more to the sa2 movie
If she did get her own spin off film it would probably be about her going on a road trip with wade's annoying fbi sister who would be the actual main focus on the film
Yeah, I don't want Amy happens the same as Tails in Sonic 2
I hope Amy will be in the Third Movie, But if She’s not, the 3rd film will still probably be good.
Amy gets too much hate.
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Not as much as before, but I still think people overdo it. I hated her too when I was much younger, but now I realize that Amy really was a great character, as well as funny, I never really took her "bad moments" that seriously.
She doesn't deserve any hate.
Most people said that Amy Rose looks like the human version of Sakura from Naruto?
JUSTICE FOR AMY!
For Amy!😁💕
This is why Amy Rose haters should never even existed in the first place.
#JusticeForAmyRose
I like amy more than rouge, i bet 50% of people who like rouge like her for the wrong reasons… ngl
Personally I like rouge more because she is the exact counter to knuckles. She’s everything he isn’t and I like that dynamic.
@@UnderYourBedbear true.. they better have that dynamic more often(unlike sonic prime)
I like Amy more than Rouge because she teases Knuckles AND NO ONE TEASES THE GOAT.
@@SonicTheBlueBlur15Nah man💀. Can’t imagine what the 50% are gonna do when the go back home aster seeing rouge in the movie.
@@UnderYourBedbearwade is already here
I'm pretty confident we'll get at least one animal girl introduced in Sonic movie 3.
If they really wanted to surprise us, it might be Cream. But I doubt that since she's paired with Blaze.
I believe it'll be Amy and/or Rouge.
Seeing a Chao or two would be cool too.
I honestly think Amy’s would be fun character to have she can be strong but let her have fun and be important,she’s also a a core member to team sonic!!!
Amy would make sense in this movie, we've had Tails as the good guy character with knuckles as the bad guy character. Make Amy the good intro. While we're at it, introduce Rouge as a neutral character initially appearing to be siding with Robotnik and Shadow. But then being a hired gun for G.U.N. Maybe have Amy looking for Tails and knows him, but stumbles on the case and develops a crush on Sonic.
Something I would love to see in the Sonic Movie 3 is Amy being a badass with Sonic being the one crushing on her, obviusly Sonic would still be the main character obviusly, Sonic and Amy would be awsome working togheter...
I've always liked Amy as a character. And I would like her in a Sonic Movie.
I am watching this movie for shadow. And even I can’t imagine this movie without Amy
You're so right about the comparison to other HUGE animated properties. No matter what people say, things like the Mario Movie or certain Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks films are MASSIVELY successful. Anyone who says having more animated characters would harm the movie has no idea what they're talking about, or simply can't envision how to make it work properly. That doesn't mean that the filmmakers and writers can't do it or shouldn't try.
That being said, here is a list of characters that should appear in Sonic 3:
Froggy
Scratch and Grounder
Rob O' Hedge
Tails Doll
Marine the Raccoon
Fish (from Sonic Adventure)
I mean, there are also animated movies that are far less successful than their live action counterpart. So that's not really the deciding factor in terms of success.
Scratcher and Grounder is replaced by Agent Stone for this interpterion of Eggman.
Realistically for the list of characters to appear would be Amy Rose and Rouge. Big and Froggy as a cameo like SA2 did.
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So, here's how I'd do it:
- She comes to Earth guided by her cards. She’s a dreamer inn search of adventure
- Her power is to summon and empower her hammer
- She gets in trouble because she knows nothing about Earth, Sonic saves her and she falls in love. Sonic gets nervous and runs away, thought.
- Have your Sonic vs Shadow fight, Shadow mops the floor with Sonic, Tails and Knuckles.
- Amy eventually meets and befriends Shadow, while Sonic teams up with Robotnik.
- At the end of act 2, Robotnik betrays Sonic and used the combined quills of Sonic, Shadow and Knuckles to power Metal Sonic.
- Metal Sonic beats Sonic and Shadow because they can’t work together. When they manage to escape him, he kidnaps Amy
- 3rd act is to rescue Amy, while Robotnik is preparing something big for the world
- Final fight is a hedgehog fest: Sonic, Shadow and Amy vs Metal Sonic, while Knuckles and Tails try to stop Robotnik’s greater plan
- Amy makes Sonic and Shadow to work together. Robotnik is stopped but too late.
- Inspired by Amy, Shadow sacrifices himself to save the world.
- Post credits reveal Shadow survived.
At least those are my hopes.
You know what? THIS IS A PERFECT PLOT!
@@ThunderSpeedStudios Thank you! I'm eager for the movie!
I get bullied: *sleep*
Amy gets bullied: *REAL SHIT*
I hope they don't Chris Thorndike it, and give a incredibly important role to some unimportant side character
I hope Amy is in Sonic 3. I mean, they introduced Tails at the end of the first movie, and then the second movie not only had him, but also Knuckles. If Sonic 2 teased Shadow, then he comes back for the third movie, doesn’t that also mean they could bring Amy in as well?
They need to include Amy in Sonic 3 movie as part of the main cast with an important and relevant role, not being shown in a post credits scene.
@@DragonNinja20 That's what I meant.
I never understood the Amy hate. Especially outside the Sonic Fandom. With the resurgence of Amy in the cast in Frontiers and Superstars, I wouldn't be surprised if Sega would do something with her. I wish we were given some more details about Sonic 3 though.
I hated Amy as a kid when i played the wii Sonic and the secret ring game she was always cheating
People only hate Amy because of how she was in Sonic Heroes until Generations. Sonic Boom was the first time Amy became the group mum/bossy girl (though Sonic Boom Amy took it further than main series Amy).
It’s cause of sega of Jp flandiraztion of Amy during the 2000s which sadly sonic fans take super seriously lol
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Amy in the mid 2000s: SONIC I WANT YOUR BABIES!
Amy in the last 10 years: **Literally the group mum**
Sonic fans now: Amy sucks! She's such a stalker!
I wish more details for Sonic 3 too. Even if they're making such surprises, it's really not when you grab Amy or/and Rouge in it.
They do not need to play it safe, that's what Sega and Sonic Team did to the games between 2010-2017. We needed a game like Sonic Frontiers, so surely they can do that with Sonic Movie 3. Have Amy there, and hopefully Rouge.
I want my pink hedgehog
I actually love Amy tbh, in fact she’s one of my top 5 favorite Sonic characters
I feel like there is a balance to be struck, if too many characters are introduced in one film it could start to feel a little crowded, but I feel like introducing 1 to 3 characters per movie would be good.
we just Shadow, Rouge and Amy to be introduced, really. but I'm afraid of them focusing on new human characters take Amy and Rouge's roles
@@KeltkeGH I definitely agree, there was a rumour a while back about a new G.U.N agent being introduced called Captain Rockwell I think? But if this is true then it would certainly take away from Rouges role or her role entirely in the movie. I really dont get the argument that its "not kid friendly".
Im unsure if they'll include Rouge but I would guess they're definitely adding Amy.
Amy and Rouge both need to be in that film - I find it horrifying how female characters are being mistreated due to stereotypical gender beliefs and they both play core roles in SA2B for heck’s name. Amy has developed not only as a character but a female role model throughout her time being in the sonic brand and while rouge debuted in SA2B, that does not make either of them any less valuable.
I think it would be criminal if the producers left either one of them out. Personally, I adore BOTH female characters and when I watched the sonic films, it was for sonic, tails, knuckles, Eggman and not for the other human characters. I am sure that there are many other people with similar tastes on who they want to watch but it would be wrong for Amy’s and Rouges roles to not be added.
I am not gonna lie, I will be depressed if Amy is not in this movie.
people are so busy talking about Amy and Rouge that they forget that there's a non-zero chance that black doom appears on the movie
Amy needs to be in the third Sonic Film. It's the perfect opportunity to introduce the characters.
They could've done a lot of this work in the Knuckles series, but instead we got a bowling tournament with Wade. I mean, it's pretty much like the joke in Sonic Shorts when the 4Kids executives are pitching a Chris Thorndyke spinoff.
I was told Amy and rouge are gonna show up in the 3rd movie
Amy is one of my favorite characters and theres a reason shes one of the main character, along sonic tails and knuckles, i dont think shes not appearing since theyve been putting amy in more things like origins super stars and she was in the ihop crossover, i think amy will appear, i actually dont think rouge will cause she hasnt had any attention recently other than dream team, so i dont think so unless sonic x shadow gens has rouge in the story of shadow gens,
Rouge was in Sonic Prime.
@@YujiUedaFan Her variants never mattered that much when compared to Amy, Knuckles and especially Tails.
This bullshit “Amy and Rouge would overcrowd the cast” is gonna make me want to make a video on why that’s fucking stupid like I’m sorry did we all forget Sonic 1 teased Tails and then in sonic 2 included knuckles in the second one along side tails so why would Shadow be the only new CGI character in Sonic movie 3 like this bullshit pisses me off like do these people actually care about these characters because it doesn’t seem like it??????
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As someone who absolutely loves these character. I understand what people mean by it s gonna get overcrowded. Idk how to explain it but I understand it
I understand your frustration, but in the hands of a writer who probably doesn't know what to do with them, we could get a Spider-Man 3 and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 situation here.
@@gsm4919I mean I get it too but The reasonings behind it, all really stupid he’ll in sonic 2 tails didn’t even get that big of a character Arc and never took the focus away from knuckles so why would Amy Take away the focus that much from Shadow??????? That doesn’t make sense plus if Rouge was there too she’d also get character moments as well like it’s not like every character has to be by themselves to have a character arc, that’s not how that works
@@gsm4919hell like pup said not every screen time was focused on Shadow so people need to stop mommying the writers
@@tonymata8070right or your holding back the writers and you forget Shadow’s backstory doesn’t take up 80% of the movie after all this is Sonic Movie not Shadow like did you watch the video like atleast this is more planed then Spider man 3 also TASM 2 has less characters then potentially this??????
I agree with you give the girl her time to shine
Amy is one of my favorite characters so i really hope she's in it. Also I think the way amys personality is portrayed in sonic adventure 1&2 was peak Amy sonic heros went a little wild with her
I see your points and agree that Amy plays an important role in Shadow's story but I would also argue that Sonic Adventure 2 had the luxury of being 9 hours long in comparison to the movie likely being 2 hours at most and we also have to consider potential stories that would be emphasized outside of Shadow like developing Sonic's heroism and empathy, Tails developing his independence, Robotnik learning about his Grandfather, the organization that controlled Project Shadow, and possible flashbacks to Maria and Shadow being on the arc; I would love to see Amy and Rouge in the movie but I feel like the movie already has a lot of arcs to juggle already and adding in Amy can result in a more muddled story that falls short of expectations.
I would disagree that Amy's direction is extreme in the new games because in Frontiers Amy is vulnerable, caring while also willing to stand up for what she believes in and loving Sonic but the difference between her character now and her depictions from Heroes to Generations is that modern Amy is allowed to have interests outside of Sonic, able to hold fun conversation with him that showcases a meaningful dynamic, and emphasizing her own values in comparison to her having a rather one dimensional dynamic that didn't progress the story or the characters while leaving her more empathetic qualities behind in SA 1 and SA 2; the IDW comics are also a good example of how here character has progressed in the Modern Era of Sonic.
I personally the idea that Sonic could have met Amy when they were kids, like when he went to get the flower for Longclaw. How she gets to Earth while keeping true to the games? Not sure, but I trust them to come up with something. People are so hyped for Shadow, they forget this is a SONIC movie. With how much focus Knuckles got, the second movie still followed Sonic, and also Robotnik. And like you said, there’s not a lot of female representation in these movies. That’s something that definitely needs to be expanded on.
Amy is one of my favorite characters and it’ll be cool if she was in Sonic Movie 3
With how much Amy is being pushed recently- I would surprised she isn’t in movie 3
Sonic 3 is rumored to be PG-13. So we might just see Maria die.
6:44 the pure emotion in that sentence is perfect
amy is probably one of the reasons there are female sonic fans not having her in the next sonic movie would be such a mishap!
You know, it's funny, people don't want the human characters to steal the roles out of Sonic characters, but the moment it's Amy, fans ENCOURAGE for her roles to get stolen and for get to stay away, and if she's not in movie 3, I can already see the cycle repeat.
Doesn't anyone find this awful? Because it absolutely is to me. Amy it's always the one who has to explain her reasoning of being in the movies, the one who has to be excluded for the sake of Shadow, and the one who's roles are interchangable regardless of who does it, either a piece of shit human like Chris or a glass of water.
I'm glad that you actually got to see Amy for who she actually is, Pup, it takes brains for someone to break out of the cycle of calling Amy the same words.
Alright, you've persuaded me on Amy and Rouges' inclusion in Sonic movie 3. My initial concerns were that it would be difficult to manage that many new characters in a story with an increasing scope. The concern was that it would turn out to be a Spiderman 3 kind of situation.
However, if the writing is good enough, it would be a disservice to not have at least one of these characters.
I think they should introduce Amy in this movie then introduce Rouge in a Shadow spinoff series as an agent GUN sent to track him down after the events of the 3rd movie
22:28: I mean, I think there's already been, EXTREMELY SUBTLE, set-up done:
Amy Rose, in these movies, came to Earth, became a pre-teen shadow real estate maven, giving her name to a human as cover for...30%, and Maddie stayed at one of her Zillow properties. Sonic 3 is set...4-5 years after her arrival. Sonic speeds past that property early in Sonic 3, seeing a pink hedgehog in a window for a second, and then...the GUN truck happens, for Action Scene #1. After the action scene, Sonic gets his "one phone call", to Tails, telling him about Amy. Tails has made a big techno hammer, which he puts in the plane he's made. Picks up Amy, flies to Prison Island, Amy sees the hammer and grabs it before leaping out of the plane and then: Action Scene #2: Amy smashing down walls and robots to save a hero. Amy can even laugh at Tails, "You think I don't know my way around a hammer!? I. WORK. IN. REAL. ESTATE! Now, let's get to the reno!"
AMY MUST BE IN SONIC MOVIE 3!!!!
WE NEED AMY ROSE IN THE HISTORY!!!!
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Really hope they’re in the movie
Tbh outside of Sonic X it never says that Sonic left earth and we never see citizens outside of Unleashed as far as I can remember so the thing of bringing the animal characters to earth works perfectly. In considering gun is no longer after Sonic anyway It would make sense that human and animal characters live together in peace. (Outside of Robotnik)
Amy Rose is so cute! I hope Shailene Woodley voices her.
You make good points Pup. The main two concerns I see potentially preventing Amy from appearing is 1) the cost of having *five* vfx heavy characters that are all individually highly expensive 2) the length of sonic adventure 2’s story is being cut down to probably about 90 minutes, 2 hours at most.
That said, Sonic, Tails and Knuckles are all quite cemented, none of them really *need* much more character work. Ultimately I think I agree that Amy could be included just fine in Sonic 3, and that not doing so would be a mistake.
Great points about lack of female characters too, btw.
They wouldn't have those cost issues if they just had the sonic movies be animated
@@jskywalker58 no, they would probably be more expensive then
@@adammyers7383That can vary, some animations movie are not too expensive
Tails feels the weakest for now, as Sonic and Knuckles had more presentation, while Tails' goes by too quickly and is overshadowed compared to Sonic and Knuckles'.
@@jskywalker58 How about they shouldn't put any cost when casting new humans instead of putting on the characters, and not grab big names to inflate the budget.
Amy is my favourite character in the Sonic franchise.
I think part of the problem is that the times you get to play 'as' Amy or the times she plays a key role in the games are the exception to the rule.
Most of the time Amy is just 'there' and alot of the time she is defined by her Sonic obsession. In these instances Sonic is often put off by Amy's advances and runs from her.
This makes Amy come across as annoying to alot of people because if you don't find her gag funny, chances are you won't find her enjoyable to watch.
But I've always enjoyed Amy's optimistic, compassionate and courageous personality. She may not often get a moment to shine but hopefully now Sega are addressing the ways her character has been mishandled in the past.
I do think the Sonic crush 'should' be there to a degree because it's Amy's most consistent and self-defining personality trait - if you remove it she stops being Amy. But it shouldn't be all there is to her at the same time. Sega needs to find that balance where Amy still feels like she's Amy, but that she isn't overbearing or irrelevent to the games' plot.
Amy should 'definitely' be in Sonic 3, she technically predates Knuckles if we go by when the 16-Bit games were developed, and she's too integral a character to leave out.
Amy was actually Sonic's first friend, and nowadays, she's basically a member of team sonic
The only time sonic seemed actually uneasy from her was in battle and riders where he really seem to like her much , it was pretty funny but also very sad to see how sega of Jp just flip flops between her
In an age where modern audiences are finally starting to realize that animated films are more than just "kids movies"; and coming off of the success of films like SpiderVerse & Mario, it makes me wonder why they didn't just decide to go with an animated film from the get-go? I mean they already cast pretty big names to *voice* characters.
I've enjoyed the two films we've gotten, but I was definitely off put when that first trailer dropped and I realized we were doing the "human & animated character buddy film" trope, it made me a little less excited as a fairly casual fan of Sonic who grew up with the first two games.
We shouldn't care after all they are people from Twitter Amy will be in the films after all she is one of the main ones, I'm not going to lie that I also want to see Rouge but I need both of them to appear after all they are important and essential to this franchise
If you're efficient at Storytelling you can introduce the character in 5 minutes... look back at 80's movies, you didn't have an origin for every single character, they just were there, knew each other and GOT ON WITH THE FUCKING STORY. Seriously... I don't get this obsession with Origins these days... you don't need it, you really don't. Hey this is Amy, give her a scene early on, then have her be the one to Convince Shadow... It's 100% doable, would hope they don't squander it... But after Knuckles I'm like... Ehhhhh