Unbelievable how patronising Nick Clegg is throughout that debate. It's people like him who represent the old guard who need to be kicked out of politics.
Chris Dynamo Indeed, 28,772,121 to be exact from the latest figures I can find. Rounding such numbers is very common practice and I will eat my entire house and garden if Nick Clegg has never, ever, ever rounded a number up during his political life. Who does he think he is kidding? I find it insulting he thinks we are that stupid that we can't find out for ourselves with a quick google. Class tit that boy.
The problem is Farage hasn't been trained in the art of deception, as have the other prominent politicians. Clegg keeps repeating the same lines, dressed up to win peoples' emotions, again and again. Whereas Farage actually states real facts, appealing to logic rather than emotion. I hope the British people have enough sense to back Farage.
however it's arguable a lot of his 'real fact's don't add up entirely, I'm not against Farage and I admire his full honest approach to politics, something lacking in the UK at the moment, but his stance on climate change and some elements of immigration make me skeptical of UKIP
Oh my... Isn't it sad that our elected politicians are so out of touch that they manage to make ex-Tory, public school boy Nigel Farage look like a man of the people. Whether the public find themselves 'in' or 'out', they won't be electing either one of these two parties for many reasons, regardless of their stance on Europe.
Andrew Fuller You believe in 'Climate Change' as they do? Mother Earth has been 'changing' since day one and NO amount of money will stop it, ask King Canute, so why do they insist on STEALING money from people? The man in the street is being conned by business to pay for the 'discovery and implementation' of renewable energy, while they reap the rewards? This guy wrote the Agenda 21 report; the-classic-liberal.com/maurice-strong/ clearly a person on the make, remember the food for oil scandal in China? This is him.
xKenq what system would you rather have anarchy- a system where all humans would massacre each other fascism - no freedom racism and prejudice of all kinds communism- every one is poor and in a word oppressed socialism- punishing the rich for being rich democracy and capitalism allow ambition , allows change and allows all people to live without fear of discrimination. we have been making great progress on this with gay marriage and our anti race laws as well as trying to get women equal pay rather than be subservient to men
xKenq Bad troll is bad. "Faggot marriage"? Methink's the lady doth protest too much! "Women shouldn't even need to work" Please tell me you are joking. So without your homophobic rants, your far-right insults on anyone who happens to live in the 21st century and your ridiculous statements about women, socialism (?) and seatbelts (?), can you give an example of a better system than democracy?
xKenq Yes. Monarchy is better than democracy. You are absolutely correct. Instead of electing officials to rule for us, we should be dominated by a family that have no idea what the common man/woman experiences. You sir, are a genius! That kind of thinking could revolutionise the 2nd century BC. Time for you to stop trolling on youtube and to get working on that time machine.
So you voted for this mess, do you still think you knew what you voted for? Or did you vote to make the rich richer and every other person worse off. Thanks for making my children's future a bleak one you knuckle dragging imbecile......
kd84afc In my humble opinion Clegg referring to "little England" was the defining moment of the entire debate and a grotesque error of judgement. It showed how out-of-touch he is, and exposed his view that the English as a free and independent people means nothing to him. I've been called a "little Englander" many times on YT. Rather than being insulted, it is a badge I wear with pride.
I'm Clegg the Smegg, deedle, eedle, eedle, um, I love EU regs, deedle, eedle, eedle eedle, um, Wherever I go, whenever I come I always bang the Brussels drum...
Population of Bulgaria = 7,364,570 (2011 Census) Population of Romania = 20,121,641 (2011 Census) Total = 27,486,211 Clegg is just splitting hairs. Nigel's point is not that the entire populations of Bulgaria & Romania will pitch up in Britain but the fact that they have the right to do so if they so chose and there's nothing whatsoever we can do about it.
Well done to the straight talking Nigel. As always Nigel answers the questions and Nick goes all political by avoiding answering them. I know who I am voting for; do you? UKIP 22nd May.
I liked the UKIP argument more. Nigel spoke about how the EU is shackling a great country that could do better. Clegg was pretty much telling us how inadequate we are.
Look how Nick Clegg talks to the camera. It's so disingenuous with his soundbites and his trained body language with the forced hand gestures. He's such a phoney. At least Nigel speaks and acts from the heart and not like a puppet who's strings are being pulled by other people.
Damon Conlan I don't think there is anything more dishonest than an elected MP who threw millions of students of today and in the future into the financial fire for his little slice of power. Maybe you watched a different debate than me? One where Nick Clegg actually answered questions and not jump around questions with diversion techniques. I'm glad you see this as not being dishonest...
Iain L He made a promise about tuition fees when it wasn't obvious how much debt the government was in. When he was in power (albeit with the Conservatives) he agreed to a new tuition fee structure that only charges those who can afford to pay it and which is fair on everyone (why should taxpayers subsidise rich, educated people?)
Link me some evidence of this please. Yes you are right taxpayers shouldn't subside the rich, but we shouldn't be subsidising Europe's poorest countries either.
Clegg was out of his depth - he was crushed, demolished, & dismantled on every question, and bashed out of the ring into the 8th row. It was a total and utter humiliation for Clegg, and led to the end of his political career.
Statement of the hour: "worlds largest economy" bore off Clegg, unless you meant "worlds largest collection of fascists" Farage won this debate without a shadow of a doubt and engaged with the audience. It was really refreshing to see Nigel debate on this subject with the likes of the Deputy Prime Minister, I just hope for Britain's sake Farage is able to participate in the TV debate at the general election and pray that the British people wake up and become free again. Rule Britannia.
no explanation as to why he's increased student fee's, the impact the human rights is having on deporting foreign criminals, the impact mass immigration is having on driving wages down. None of these questions were answered. Nigel answered as a citizen of the UK who's experienced first hand what's happening
Clegg is speaking as a Politician who is in receipt of an EU pension and to speak out against them would cost him that pension! Which is why we have Kinnock and Mandleson also speaking up for the EU! THEY'VE BEEN BOUGHT!
Robert Bedford How has Nigel Farage a former city banker ever had to deal with the threat of a foriegn worker taking his job! Also which human rights act are we talking about. Is it the same europe convention of human rights that was signed into being by Winston Churchhill in 1951 and was mostly drafted by Sir Oscar Dowson another torie and home office advisor? The Human rights act is not the fault of the EU it was around before the EU even existed! This is why i am worried about a in/out vote on the EU because goons like you don't seem to have a real clue what is and isn't decided or implemented by the EU or not! I don't want my ability to move around freely and work all over europe taken from me by people like you when you can't even make an informed argument to leave based on actual facts not just Daily mail anit eu propaganda! God nearly a million british people just live in spain. with something like another million+ spread over the rest of europe. Don't think that if we close our borders other countries won't do the same. No freedom of movement for them means no freedom of movement for us. If you think our health service and housing are struggling now wait until it has to deal with an extra million people something like 50-60% pensioners forced to return from spain(bet spain can't wait to get rid of that drain on there health service). My sister lives in spain and has for 10 years. i love her but she doesn't speak the language, lives in an area with all British people. Hasn't integrated to their culture at all. Most British people think that behaviour is fine. there is this very colonialist attitude we seem to have in the UK where if someone comes here they are an immigrant and if they haven't got perfect english and live near other people from there background they aren't integrating but if we go to there country its okay because we are ex-pats and thats different and different rules apply to us its very hypocritical.
Clegg is a load of convoluted word salad. He is actually a far more refined and skilled speaker than Farage, but unfortunately he is TRYING to use that to distort reality and hoodwink the audience into believing the two and two is not really four when you think about it the Clegg way. Whereas Farage simply comes with the truth, basic logic, common sense and a profound love for his county
Did I hear this correct? 2% of child benefit claimed is for children abroad. Clegg seems to think that's a small minority when that seems incredibly high to me.
High, It's higher than the alleged Benefit fraud, 0.7% and look how they castigated the unemployed and disabled over that? Even the 'error' rate, 1.3%, is higher and nobody was sacked? Benefit fraud £1.1 billion, Error £2.1 billion, child benefits abroad £3.88 billion, Total Job-Seekers Allowance £4.9 billion?
People are forgetting about this debate. In my view this was the pivotal moment that led to the referendum. Nick Clegg is the examplar of a career politician, and I think in this debate, we the people saw through it
It's not about left and right anymore - It's about right and wrong. Bring back the British Sausage I say. Say NO to the EU and reclaim Britannia for the Britons.
Cameron is running the country ....nah nah nah,, Cameron was probably in a room full of his staff watching this debate, taking notes and being worried, same for Milibland too.....Farage WON the debate and as for the coment that Farage did not address using Christian names....yes he did...cant wait for part two
May be try listening, he got the figure directly from the horses mouth, vivienne whatever, one of the unelected EU nazis. Gordon Brown even admitted it was over half and that was years ago, so how can it possibly be 7%
***** sorry John Smith my fellow Dark Side of the Moon fan.... the stats are clear, Farage won the debate.... 57% Farage....7% don't know......36% Clegg....I voted Clegg in the last GE.... Farage all the way.....
Tell me about it, he must believe we are still living in an era where free trade between nations is something that's difficult to achieve. Like the only reason we have it is because the gods of EU make it so.
Nick Clegg is absolutely correct and his view cannot be challenged. So how dare you do so, Sir! Before the UK joined the EU (Common Market) in 1973 we didn't do a single £'s worth of trade with any country in Europe. This is an absolute fact, as Nick Clegg rightly pointed out and Nigel Farage is just plain wrong. We didn't buy any of Europe's goods, nor did Europe buy any of ours, as it was illegal under European and International Law. That's why we had to join the EU (Common Market) so that we could legally enter that market place. We also didn't do any trade with the rest of the World because they had never heard of the UK until we joined the EU (Common Market) in 1973. This is why Nick Clegg's argument about us leaving the EU is so bullet proof. We mustn't under any circumstances leave the EU, or we will go back to pre-1973 days and overnight all our trade with Europe will have to stop, by law. We will also enter into obscurity as far as the International Market Place is concerned. This is reason alone for staying in the EU. ;)
Fastdags You forgot to mention we will instantly revert back to living in caves, language will cease to exist and any technological innovation within the last three thousand years will vanish in a puff of smoke. I'm sold, Nick is right!
If we're wanting to talk about "Before the European Union," how about this? Before the European Union, we had hundreds of years of war between Britain, France, Germany, Italy etc. While its unlikely war would be declared the day we left, there is something to be said for such strong diplomatic links keeping peace in a land previously plauged by war: since 1951, there was been no inter-state war between any two members of the EU.
Farage took down Clogg easily. Just a much better speaker and correct in his analysis of Europe. 7 years later, Britain’s out and ‘Ol Nick’s been banished into obscurity. Brilliant!
As part of the younger generation who hedged what little faith we had in politics upon Clegg's claims of cutting tuition fees, only to be stabbed in the back; his infuriatingly bureaucratic evasion of the issue only further illustrates his detachment from reality. I couldn't care less whether Farage employed his wife or not - Betraying a whole generation is not in the slightest bit comparable.
Farage isn't common sense, he doesn't understand the EU bargain - you get the trade by participating in the politics. The EU will exclude us if we leave, as otherwise all the rest - the whole EEA and a large part of the EU will leave. the common market is the sweetener to the political union.
Concerning Siemens, Clegg is lying. I know a high ranked person working for Siemens and the fact is, when they buy a company to save or create jobs, even though it costs them money, they have deals with countries that give them advantages on some other businesses etc...
Admittedly prior to this debate I never really knew much about Clegg, except seeing him acting compassionate and caring occasionally on the news. After watching this I had never realised how deceitful and arrogant he really is. I walked in on the highlights after the debate on the day it was shown. At the moment where Clegg was filmed being escorted away in the car refusing to accept any questions. On the other hand when it came to Farage he stopped and eagerly answered any question that came his way. Just comes to show who really cares about the people of Britain.
Back in the seventies the British public were led to believe they were joining a trading agreement when they were led like donkeys into the Common market since then the renamed EU has been slowly morphed into a political union that has left us swamped with economic migrants and Romananian gypsy pickpockets that is run by a conglomerate of largely faceless foreign meddlers that we have absolutely no power to vote out of office. Yes British politicians are a motley crew,but at least we have some ability to replace them via the ballot box. We do not need to be bankrolling Eastern european states left broke by Russia's soviet empire.Russia should be paying for the damage it caused not us. I do hope we get a referendum very soon to leave,and that the European migrants living in the UK will not be allowed to cast a vote as they are unlikely to favour the UK's true interest.
The aspiration of founders of the European Community (well Coal and steel community first) was to eventually create a more political union. When the UK joined they should have seen that there was a gradual move towards more co-operation within in the EC. The UK should have realized what they had gotten themselves into.
Damien Ord I wasn't old enough to vote, but I remember people were told it was all about trade and nothing else - the joke is the shops were full of stuff made in Japan. It was Heath that took us in without a referendum after promising in manifesto to 'negotiate no more no less'. Labour and the Unions were against the joining for all the reasons we are complaining about now. Labour gave the people a referendum Thatcher said the people were too thick to have a referendum on the common market, but could probably understand/manage one on hanging.
Alex Semen Only impose decades of dictatorship murder and mayhem throughout Eastern Europe in the guise of the soviet union and cause further mayhem in Ukraine is that doing nothing ?
What Nick Clegg didn't mention when saying 7% of UK law is related to EU law is that 14% of secondary legislation is related, and that EU Regulations are not counted as they don't require UK legislation to be effective in UK law.
Nigel Farage aleady won the debate by default for me. Why? Because I don't trust Clegg, after he broke several major promises during the 2010 general election. How do we even know he is telling the truth now after that? Would rather take my chance with Farage, TBH.
this is how prime ministers should be conducted every week not the farce we see in parliament they should have to be answerable to the people face to face
Well that's how it used to be. The House of Commons being divided in half, is so that two opposing opinions/parties can debate opposing sides. But democracy has one weakness - And that is, if all the parties agree on the same important issues, AND can easily sway public opinion. Well, all the major parties agree on the EU and they have their spin doctors in the media. Just look at all the journalists, reporters, writers and editors at the BBC, Sky, Guardian, Telegraph, The Sun, that are members of labour or the conservatives. When I was in university, I can tell you that I met these types. Journalists and politicians are the same breed, their path is -> born into wealth -> public school -> oxford/cambridge (or another russell-group uni) -> media or politics. That is where they fork, i.e. into media, or into politics. They are elitist, politically-correct hypocrites.
Farage missed a trick near the start: Clegg claimed that, at the time of the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution's passing, the Liberal Democrats supported a straight in/out referendum (but ceased to see the need for one after it was a done deal, apparently). That, they alleged, was why they wouldn't back a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution alone -- they didn't think such a referendum would have gone far enough! In reality,they didn't support a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution OR an in/out referendum. They never tried to pass a bill authorising an in/out referendum in the Commons, and when UKIP peers tried to pass one in the Lords they voted against it! The man is an obvious liar; the broken tuition fees pledge underlined underlined it and this performance added the highlighter ink.
The main parties won't listen to you, don't delude yourself. Most Brits asked for a referendum but our masters said no. For years people have said we have had too much immigration, but very little was done. They don't want to listen. This is our country, and people should vote to punish the major parties.
****Watching the news coverage of this debate on BBC made my blood boil. Their biased coverage against UKIP actually made Farage look bad and Clegg's debate look reasonable, amazingly. Most of the best points made by Farage were not given coverage. Please i urge everyone to share this on facebook and any other method possible so people can see the debate and then judge without media bigotry !
EXACTLY That unfortunately is the plan for the News... Clegg takes a battering in the LIVE debate... "we" all saw it :) They can't deny live TV, however not everyone watched it live... Everyone WAS probably watching the news, and so they cut out Nigels best bits and, made it look like Clegg actually did have something to say, by using the only parts where he opened his mouth. (Other than writhing in pain from Nigels amazing speech.) They will plant many loaded questions for the next round which will help Clegg out, because without that help... If this really was a fair debate for Nigel and Clegg.... Clegg would be on his knees begging for mercy.
next debate the bbc will be shipping the audience in from Brussels. Just like their rigged question time audiences. It's amazing what happens when the bbc isn't involved. Fair audience and time to speak nigel crushed poor cleggers
Sorry your definition is ever so slightly wrong ha ha my definition would be a self delusional Double Dutch (Oh yes He's half Dutch you know!" fantasist and pathological Liar.
Nigel Farage Speaks For Us British, Nick Clegg Speaks For Europe, I'd Rather Have Someone More Concerned With Britain Running This Country Than Someone In Love With Europe With All Of Its Floors, UKIP Defiantly Won This Debate, Well Done Mr Farage!!!!!
***** How will we be better off out? Well, we could start with the £54 million a day membership fee and go from there, if you wish. And when were we better off? When we and we alone governed our own country, perhaps, and made all of our own laws. Or even perhaps when we could choose which light bulb we wanted to use without some foreign and unelected fkn bureaucrat poking his nose in.
***** The £54 million a day membership fee has never, to the best of my knowledge, been seriously contested by anyone which is why UKIP continue to point it out. And where do you get the idea that our gross contribution is only £16.4 million? A quick Google showed a net - not gross - contribution in 2011 of almost 5 billion Euros. That's 5 billion of our hard-earned taxes simply given away to the unelected bureaucrats of the EU to spend as they see fit. How many doctors or teachers could we pay for with that kind of money? How many of those on low incomes, such as pensioners, could we take out of fuel poverty? I agree that our democracy was not perfect. In fact, far from it. But at least we had the chance to boot out those who failed our expectations. But we don't even have that now, for we do not elect and cannot remove 90% of the MEPs, and we can't even begin to touch the unelected bureaucrats who hold the real power. Give me an imperfect democracy rather than no democracy at all, for few can deny that the EU is about as undemocratic as it gets. But worse, it won't change. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. You really believe that those in control are going to surrender one iota of that control? They want more, not less, and that fkn snake-oil salesman Cameron knows he's talking bollocks when he spouts about "repatriation of powers". The EU is a sinking ship, and we need to get off or go down with it. PS light-bulbs - I was making the point that the EU interfere in practically every aspect of our lives. And that EU "eco-friendly" bulb? It contains the neurotoxin mercury.
***** We used to be number 1...even above China and the US until the 1970s...when the Suez Crisis and incidentally Britain's entry into the EU happened. Ever since we joined the UK has slowly gone downhill. We need out before we end up like all those other poor countries like Spain and Italy, even France's economy is going down the toilet.
***** My god, a book! I restate what I said before - our net annual contribution in 2011 was just under 5 billion Euros. Money wasted. Given away to prop up a failing EU and other failing economies. Money that, at a time of huge national debt and austerity should be spent here, where it was earned. I won't even bother with your comment about how we'll lose jobs if we leave. Clegg has tried on that lie twice, and failed twice.
dunholm1 There is a very good reason for spending money on what were Soviet block [now EU countries] so as to improve their infrastructure & thus make them more attractive to inward investment. The reason being that unless they do attract said inward investment then their economies will sink into an abyss which will almost certainly result in civil wars that will both spill over into & drag in the rest of Europe [including the UK]. PS - little wonder that UKIP want to drastically enlarge the UK's armed forces as they do since even UKIP understand this!!
Mr Clegg , i think your house of commons library needs updating . Your facts and figures are ludicrous ! Wake up Britain and lets look after our own laws again .
Clegg says there are not 29m people in Rumania and Bulgaria. Sorry, their combined pop is, guess what, 29m. Farage was NOT saying that 29m will come to the UK. He said they had the right. Get your facts Clegg!
Exactly, funny that this is the only thing the other party's like to dwell on, I like that Clegg couldn't answer the fact that 400+ million had the right to come and go from the UK as they please.
Gary Levy The fact that there are 485 million people in the EU, who have the right to migrate within the EU as and when they please, is not a valid statement regarding the actual levels of immigration within the UK. First of all, this total includes the UK population. Second of all, not every single person in the EU wants to magically appear in the UK. If such a catastrophic consequence was actually likely, do you really think the government would be so concerned with remaining within the EU? The economic consequences would be disastrous. There are many other countries in the EU with stronger economies than the UK and with higher standards of living and higher human development. In addition, there are also the EEA countries, some of which also have higher levels of human development than the UK, yet you don't see British people lining up to migrate to them, despite having the right to do so.
I'm not trying to start a youtube debate, I probably won't even reply to your next comment if you were to make one, but why do you want to stay in the EU?
The EU is the problem as any fool can see, they have no legal mandate to make any laws, never have and never will, Britain has its own laws, one of them being that no foreign power has any legal mandate, and anyone attempting to give them any power is guilty of treason, so why do you condone acts of treason. Also why on earth would we want any more immigrants in our country, we already have too many causing lack of housing, jobs, schools, hospitals etc etc, 1000's of homes have already been built on unfit land causing floods, how many more million would you like to stuff our country with, this is our home that you are intent on destroying. Why not increase the 70p/hr wages in the countries they are flocking from, instead of allowing them to be used for slave labour and leaving them to sleep on the streets. Are you evil or just stupid.
Self determinacy is nearly always a good thing mate. The whole agenda of these international partnerships is to decrease national sovereignity and the shackling of domestic populations is more easily acheived... see globalist, New world order aims and objectives
Why do we need so many tiers of government, there is no need for us to pay 55million pounds a day for additional tier of government. We no longer operate under any consent and live in a more police state than ever, it's just nuts
well done Nigel for a truly profesional performance , Clegg was left to flounder in a sea of party politics and made a poor case for staying in the European Union. You spoke for the Nation keep up the good work.
Romania is ~21.3 million, Bulgaria ~7.3 million... is my maths wrong... isn't that 28.6 million people? Doesn't that round up to 29 million? I'm so sick of career politicians lining their own nests and lying to us, they're just after a job in the EU. God bless you Nigel.
Actually, scrub that. When he's responding to Christopher the IT consultant and uses the term 'I don't know what your business is', that sums them up. HIS BUSINESS IS IT CONSULTING, THEY JUST FUCKING TOLD YOU THAT. Politicians could do with listening once in a while
Farage is one of those very rare politicians,beholding to no one and speaks the truth,I am not British but I admire the fact that his prime motivation is to make his country a better place for all the citizens not just the corporatists/globalists and special interest groups who put profit over people..
My brilliant Indian colleagues (mathematicians and physicists) have to go over many hurdles to get entry to Britain and further difficulties after they have been here for two or three years. We need brilliance to keep us in the game with China. The EU cauterizes this kind of immigration.
wow... Farage, you have just gained a LOT of new support. (well at least to the already very rapidly growing party) Proud to be with you UKIP :) Here's to Great Britain's positive future! :) Thankyou for giving us hope again.
Clegg said the EU make 7% of our laws that was a huge lie he is quite simply a man whose career was made in Europe. We can survive outside the EU with perfect trade agreements without the restrictive practice the EU impose upon the sale of our goods around the world.
John M U say: "we can survive outside the U" - well yes: we probably can "surviver" but could we prosper in the way I presume U think we could?? Could we increase our trade with countries like India, Brazil etc: well they have their own socioeconomic problems which might render them unreliable trading partners. & China? Well China has more interest [as it has stated] in the European market so may well pull out their investment in the UK [if the UK pulls out of the EU] as the UK would loose it's access to the European market & subsequently the Chinese loose their access to sell their made-in-the-UK products in Europe. Or maybe U think the UK could be another Norway?? Well Norway still has lots of natural resources [North Sea gas/oil] & previously invested the proceeds from said resources abroad [to avoid inflationary problems that such resources bring] from which they derive a massive income. Moreover: the Norwegian socioeconomic model could NOT be more different to that which UKIP [libertarian/objectivist] have in mind & anyway: Norway is in the EU in all but name as it has signed up to most EU directives so as to access the European market. So where &/or how do U see the UK fitting in if we leave the EU??
I assume politicians who have only ever been political researchers are the only people you believe in this matter the likes of Clegg and Cameron with no business acumen whatsoever, as it has not been a requirement given the job they do. We are Germanys biggest export market so should the German Government try to stop doing business with us their own economy would fail and guess what German business that creates wealth would not allow that despite what politicians tell you. You seem to also make the assumption that Governments make trade and sell our goods and services when its the competitiveness of them that make them attractive but always led by consumers who want to buy them. If you run a business you would know trade is trade and I can only sell you something if you want it and if its at the right price. We are perfectly capable of organisation good trade agreements with countries and in many cases the tariffs imposed by the EU could be abolished making us more competitive
Yes and unlike the other leaders he had a real job in the city of London and came into politics out of conviction unlike this useless shower of shit we have now Lab Lib Con. Directives and laws should be made by us for us so simple really and nothing wrong with that idea
Wishing the Bristish people all the best in regaining their own right to rule their country! - From Switzerland.
Unbelievable how patronising Nick Clegg is throughout that debate. It's people like him who represent the old guard who need to be kicked out of politics.
That Romania and Bulgaria thing; there are combined over 28.6 million, it's hardly a gaffe to say that there's 29m.
Chris Dynamo Nick Clegg knows he has minutes left in his political life
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Indeed, 28,772,121 to be exact from the latest figures I can find. Rounding such numbers is very common practice and I will eat my entire house and garden if Nick Clegg has never, ever, ever rounded a number up during his political life. Who does he think he is kidding? I find it insulting he thinks we are that stupid that we can't find out for ourselves with a quick google. Class tit that boy.
trisiti I hear that the Libs have already booked a beach hut for their post-General Election conference.
Chris Dynamo There's only 21.22 million romanians in romania.
The problem is Farage hasn't been trained in the art of deception, as have the other prominent politicians. Clegg keeps repeating the same lines, dressed up to win peoples' emotions, again and again. Whereas Farage actually states real facts, appealing to logic rather than emotion. I hope the British people have enough sense to back Farage.
however it's arguable a lot of his 'real fact's don't add up entirely, I'm not against Farage and I admire his full honest approach to politics, something lacking in the UK at the moment, but his stance on climate change and some elements of immigration make me skeptical of UKIP
Andrew Fuller
what exactly is it that doesnt add up? cause everything ive heard Farage say on these two subjects are spot ont.
Oh my... Isn't it sad that our elected politicians are so out of touch that they manage to make ex-Tory, public school boy Nigel Farage look like a man of the people. Whether the public find themselves 'in' or 'out', they won't be electing either one of these two parties for many reasons, regardless of their stance on Europe.
The problem is, UKIP don't have one single person in our elected house. That's the problem. They are just a pressure group.
Andrew Fuller You believe in 'Climate Change' as they do? Mother Earth has been 'changing' since day one and NO amount of money will stop it, ask King Canute, so why do they insist on STEALING money from people? The man in the street is being conned by business to pay for the 'discovery and implementation' of renewable energy, while they reap the rewards? This guy wrote the Agenda 21 report; the-classic-liberal.com/maurice-strong/ clearly a person on the make, remember the food for oil scandal in China? This is him.
Whether or not you agree with him, Farage outclasses them all
This.
xKenq I did not know that pieces of wood could get married, nor did I know that democracy was a sign of idiocy
xKenq what system would you rather have
anarchy- a system where all humans would massacre each other
fascism - no freedom racism and prejudice of all kinds
communism- every one is poor and in a word oppressed
socialism- punishing the rich for being rich
democracy and capitalism allow ambition , allows change and allows all people to live without fear of discrimination. we have been making great progress on this with gay marriage and our anti race laws as well as trying to get women equal pay rather than be subservient to men
xKenq Bad troll is bad. "Faggot marriage"? Methink's the lady doth protest too much! "Women shouldn't even need to work" Please tell me you are joking.
So without your homophobic rants, your far-right insults on anyone who happens to live in the 21st century and your ridiculous statements about women, socialism (?) and seatbelts (?), can you give an example of a better system than democracy?
xKenq Yes. Monarchy is better than democracy. You are absolutely correct. Instead of electing officials to rule for us, we should be dominated by a family that have no idea what the common man/woman experiences. You sir, are a genius! That kind of thinking could revolutionise the 2nd century BC. Time for you to stop trolling on youtube and to get working on that time machine.
Farage completely destroyed Clegg. It's funny to watch.
Yes please people who vote out of EU red tape nonsense great nearly 50 years of pay into EU gravy Train
It's refreshing to see a politician who gives straight answers, whether you agree with Farage or not at least you know.
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He is the only honest politician. He should be running this country.
Nigel says the same things I've been thinking. He's got my vote
So you voted for this mess, do you still think you knew what you voted for?
Or did you vote to make the rich richer and every other person worse off.
Thanks for making my children's future a bleak one you knuckle dragging imbecile......
I am American and I freaking love Nigel Farage. :)
Good job farage
Even in the opening statement Farage ruined Clegg.
The moment Nick Clegg said the words "little England", He should resign as deputy prime minister
kd84afc In my humble opinion Clegg referring to "little England" was the defining moment of the entire debate and a grotesque error of judgement. It showed how out-of-touch he is, and exposed his view that the English as a free and independent people means nothing to him. I've been called a "little Englander" many times on YT. Rather than being insulted, it is a badge I wear with pride.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!! We make the choices not clegg or cameron
I'm Clegg the Smegg, deedle, eedle, eedle, um,
I love EU regs, deedle, eedle, eedle eedle, um,
Wherever I go, whenever I come
I always bang the Brussels drum...
Farage > Clegg
Voting UKIP 22nd May 2014 in the European Elections and the General Elections 2015.
Sure!
My cat has more chance of getting a seat in Westminster than anyone from UKIP.
Ai Zhongguo You're delusional, as is anyone who thinks UKIP don't speak sense.
Politicians and people like you will soon become a minority.
***** Thingamajigs Facts speak louder than words. The fact is UKIP after 23 years have zero MPs. That's the facts.
Ukip will never have an MP.
Ai Zhongguo Well I'm not going to give up hope whatever the outcome, I support what I belive in not who has the biggest number of MPs
Nice debate, Nigel!
Well Done LBC. The Ministry of Truth would never let this debate happen.
Population of Bulgaria = 7,364,570 (2011 Census)
Population of Romania = 20,121,641 (2011 Census)
Total = 27,486,211
Clegg is just splitting hairs.
Nigel's point is not that the entire populations of Bulgaria & Romania will pitch up in Britain but the fact that they have the right to do so if they so chose and there's nothing whatsoever we can do about it.
Watching this in 2022 you can see the amount of BS Clegg was talking back then.
LITERALLY! Talking about things that are physically impossible as an EU member, and which we all now know he was knowingly barefacedly lying about
@@denon7474 and we're doing so well now , ahaahhaahhahahaha
Farage won.
Farage wins this debate hands down.
It would be great to see Britain out of Europe - looking forward to it!!
btw, politicians are what they are, but the low level of the audience in that studio - bigots laughing out to pub kind of jokes, its just shocking.
Connor Sheehan Welcome to the U.S. would you like one war with your coffee or two?
Nick Clegg keeps talking about clout I wish someone would give him one.
Absolutely love Nigel. Definitely voting for him.
Well done to the straight talking Nigel. As always Nigel answers the questions and Nick goes all political by avoiding answering them. I know who I am voting for; do you?
UKIP 22nd May.
FARAGE OUR POLITICAL SAVIOUR HAS WON!!
Nigel speaks sense, Clegg is a typical self serving liar.
I liked the UKIP argument more. Nigel spoke about how the EU is shackling a great country that could do better. Clegg was pretty much telling us how inadequate we are.
Sorry, with all the respect, just for know, but also right now in this moment, you still think the same thing?
Look how Nick Clegg talks to the camera. It's so disingenuous with his soundbites and his trained body language with the forced hand gestures. He's such a phoney. At least Nigel speaks and acts from the heart and not like a puppet who's strings are being pulled by other people.
A poor display of Neuro Linguistic Programming from the shameful Deputy PM
Yes I agree, though more voters now are starting to see through the fake slick presentation & lies of slimeballs like Clegg
Damon Conlan I don't think there is anything more dishonest than an elected MP who threw millions of students of today and in the future into the financial fire for his little slice of power. Maybe you watched a different debate than me? One where Nick Clegg actually answered questions and not jump around questions with diversion techniques. I'm glad you see this as not being dishonest...
Iain L He made a promise about tuition fees when it wasn't obvious how much debt the government was in. When he was in power (albeit with the Conservatives) he agreed to a new tuition fee structure that only charges those who can afford to pay it and which is fair on everyone (why should taxpayers subsidise rich, educated people?)
Link me some evidence of this please. Yes you are right taxpayers shouldn't subside the rich, but we shouldn't be subsidising Europe's poorest countries either.
Nigel's reactions to Clegg's absurd arguments = priceless
This aged well for Clegg
Clegg was out of his depth - he was crushed, demolished, & dismantled on every question, and bashed out of the ring into the 8th row. It was a total and utter humiliation for Clegg, and led to the end of his political career.
Statement of the hour: "worlds largest economy" bore off Clegg, unless you meant "worlds largest collection of fascists"
Farage won this debate without a shadow of a doubt and engaged with the audience. It was really refreshing to see Nigel debate on this subject with the likes of the Deputy Prime Minister, I just hope for Britain's sake Farage is able to participate in the TV debate at the general election and pray that the British people wake up and become free again. Rule Britannia.
We did .. we did it 😆😆😆!!
Freedom ❤️
The sooner Clegg leaves politics the better. Never believe him since his lies.
Farage won hands down. Clegg is a tape recorder.
and farage is an outright liar 1
clegg is speaking as a politician. Nigel is speaking as a politician and as a British citizen
What's makes you think that? Please feel free to explain ...please
no explanation as to why he's increased student fee's, the impact the human rights is having on deporting foreign criminals, the impact mass immigration is having on driving wages down. None of these questions were answered. Nigel answered as a citizen of the UK who's experienced first hand what's happening
Clegg is speaking as a Politician who is in receipt of an EU pension and to speak out against them would cost him that pension!
Which is why we have Kinnock and Mandleson also speaking up for the EU! THEY'VE BEEN BOUGHT!
Robert Bedford How has Nigel Farage a former city banker ever had to deal with the threat of a foriegn worker taking his job! Also which human rights act are we talking about. Is it the same europe convention of human rights that was signed into being by Winston Churchhill in 1951 and was mostly drafted by Sir Oscar Dowson another torie and home office advisor? The Human rights act is not the fault of the EU it was around before the EU even existed! This is why i am worried about a in/out vote on the EU because goons like you don't seem to have a real clue what is and isn't decided or implemented by the EU or not! I don't want my ability to move around freely and work all over europe taken from me by people like you when you can't even make an informed argument to leave based on actual facts not just Daily mail anit eu propaganda! God nearly a million british people just live in spain. with something like another million+ spread over the rest of europe. Don't think that if we close our borders other countries won't do the same. No freedom of movement for them means no freedom of movement for us. If you think our health service and housing are struggling now wait until it has to deal with an extra million people something like 50-60% pensioners forced to return from spain(bet spain can't wait to get rid of that drain on there health service). My sister lives in spain and has for 10 years. i love her but she doesn't speak the language, lives in an area with all British people. Hasn't integrated to their culture at all. Most British people think that behaviour is fine. there is this very colonialist attitude we seem to have in the UK where if someone comes here they are an immigrant and if they haven't got perfect english and live near other people from there background they aren't integrating but if we go to there country its okay because we are ex-pats and thats different and different rules apply to us its very hypocritical.
Clegg is a load of convoluted word salad.
He is actually a far more refined and skilled speaker than Farage, but unfortunately he is TRYING to use that to distort reality and hoodwink the audience into believing the two and two is not really four when you think about it the Clegg way.
Whereas Farage simply comes with the truth, basic logic, common sense and a profound love for his county
Does Clegg ever answer the question he is actually asked!
50.01 I've had enough UKIP you have my vote....Nick Clegg; leave the country...
Brexit done - how's it going now we left the world largest single economic market, and now have a stalling economy?
a uk disaster
Did I hear this correct? 2% of child benefit claimed is for children abroad. Clegg seems to think that's a small minority when that seems incredibly high to me.
High, It's higher than the alleged Benefit fraud, 0.7% and look how they castigated the unemployed and disabled over that? Even the 'error' rate, 1.3%, is higher and nobody was sacked? Benefit fraud £1.1 billion, Error £2.1 billion, child benefits abroad £3.88 billion, Total Job-Seekers Allowance £4.9 billion?
Nigel Farage is pure gold. VOTE UKIP.
People are forgetting about this debate. In my view this was the pivotal moment that led to the referendum. Nick Clegg is the examplar of a career politician, and I think in this debate, we the people saw through it
Ukip gave direct replies to questions whereas LibDem's went off tangent all the time and put the scare the audience at every opportunity.
It's not about left and right anymore - It's about right and wrong.
Bring back the British Sausage I say.
Say NO to the EU and reclaim Britannia for the Britons.
Cameron is running the country ....nah nah nah,, Cameron was probably in a room full of his staff watching this debate, taking notes and being worried, same for Milibland too.....Farage WON the debate and as for the coment that Farage did not address using Christian names....yes he did...cant wait for part two
May be try listening, he got the figure directly from the horses mouth, vivienne whatever, one of the unelected EU nazis. Gordon Brown even admitted it was over half and that was years ago, so how can it possibly be 7%
***** sorry John Smith my fellow Dark Side of the Moon fan.... the stats are clear, Farage won the debate.... 57% Farage....7% don't know......36% Clegg....I voted Clegg in the last GE.... Farage all the way.....
victoriaplum997 it was Vivienne Reading...
Nick Clegg: Before the European Union there was no trade in Europe.
Tell me about it, he must believe we are still living in an era where free trade between nations is something that's difficult to achieve. Like the only reason we have it is because the gods of EU make it so.
Nick Clegg is absolutely correct and his view cannot be challenged. So how dare you do so, Sir!
Before the UK joined the EU (Common Market) in 1973 we didn't do a single £'s worth of trade with any country in Europe. This is an absolute fact, as Nick Clegg rightly pointed out and Nigel Farage is just plain wrong.
We didn't buy any of Europe's goods, nor did Europe buy any of ours, as it was illegal under European and International Law. That's why we had to join the EU (Common Market) so that we could legally enter that market place. We also didn't do any trade with the rest of the World because they had never heard of the UK until we joined the EU (Common Market) in 1973.
This is why Nick Clegg's argument about us leaving the EU is so bullet proof. We mustn't under any circumstances leave the EU, or we will go back to pre-1973 days and overnight all our trade with Europe will have to stop, by law. We will also enter into obscurity as far as the International Market Place is concerned.
This is reason alone for staying in the EU.
;)
Fastdags You forgot to mention we will instantly revert back to living in caves, language will cease to exist and any technological innovation within the last three thousand years will vanish in a puff of smoke. I'm sold, Nick is right!
***** Also: in the age of decentralisation (3d printing, Bitcoin, internet etc) we need massive stone-age bureaucracies to compete with China!
If we're wanting to talk about "Before the European Union," how about this? Before the European Union, we had hundreds of years of war between Britain, France, Germany, Italy etc. While its unlikely war would be declared the day we left, there is something to be said for such strong diplomatic links keeping peace in a land previously plauged by war: since 1951, there was been no inter-state war between any two members of the EU.
Farage took down Clogg easily. Just a much better speaker and correct in his analysis of Europe. 7 years later, Britain’s out and ‘Ol Nick’s been banished into obscurity. Brilliant!
just like the uk has
As part of the younger generation who hedged what little faith we had in politics upon Clegg's claims of cutting tuition fees, only to be stabbed in the back; his infuriatingly bureaucratic evasion of the issue only further illustrates his detachment from reality. I couldn't care less whether Farage employed his wife or not - Betraying a whole generation is not in the slightest bit comparable.
Farage won it hands down!
Nigel you are one of the very few that speaks the truth. Thank you
Well done Nigel u got urself a vote from me
Common sense will always win out, Nigel wins.
***** Says the Labour/Conservative/Liberal stooge, sweating at party HQ are we?
Farage isn't common sense, he doesn't understand the EU bargain - you get the trade by participating in the politics. The EU will exclude us if we leave, as otherwise all the rest - the whole EEA and a large part of the EU will leave. the common market is the sweetener to the political union.
Paul Thompson
wot??? like china america, the BRICs' countries, are you havin' a larf numbskull?
This has aged just like the finest wine.
Concerning Siemens, Clegg is lying. I know a high ranked person working for Siemens and the fact is, when they buy a company to save or create jobs, even though it costs them money, they have deals with countries that give them advantages on some other businesses etc...
this has aged well. Clegg has been proven completely wrong - and he now earns millions at facebook. Like all politicians - a complete sell out!
Farage should turn up to the BBC debate drunk and blindfolded with earplugs. He'd still send pinocchio packing.
Facts v emotion, I wont vote for any of the main stream parties again, Clegg clearly is out of touch with the British people
the audience seemed rigged and Farage still kicked his butt.
“The truth has a certain ring” - Hemmingway
Admittedly prior to this debate I never really knew much about Clegg, except seeing him acting compassionate and caring occasionally on the news. After watching this I had never realised how deceitful and arrogant he really is.
I walked in on the highlights after the debate on the day it was shown. At the moment where Clegg was filmed being escorted away in the car refusing to accept any questions. On the other hand when it came to Farage he stopped and eagerly answered any question that came his way. Just comes to show who really cares about the people of Britain.
Back in the seventies the British public were led to believe they were joining a trading agreement when they were led like donkeys into the Common market since then the renamed EU has been slowly morphed into a political union that has left us swamped with economic migrants and Romananian gypsy pickpockets that is run by a conglomerate of largely faceless foreign meddlers that we have absolutely no power to vote out of office. Yes British politicians are a motley crew,but at least we have some ability to replace them via the ballot box. We do not need to be bankrolling Eastern european states left broke by Russia's soviet empire.Russia should be paying for the damage it caused not us. I do hope we get a referendum very soon to leave,and that the European migrants living in the UK will not be allowed to cast a vote as they are unlikely to favour the UK's true interest.
The aspiration of founders of the European Community (well Coal and steel community first) was to eventually create a more political union. When the UK joined they should have seen that there was a gradual move towards more co-operation within in the EC. The UK should have realized what they had gotten themselves into.
A decision with such serious ramifications as to deprive a nation of its self governance should require 75% to ratify.
Damien Ord I wasn't old enough to vote, but I remember people were told it was all about trade and nothing else - the joke is the shops were full of stuff made in Japan. It was Heath that took us in without a referendum after promising in manifesto to 'negotiate no more no less'. Labour and the Unions were against the joining for all the reasons we are complaining about now. Labour gave the people a referendum Thatcher said the people were too thick to have a referendum on the common market, but could probably understand/manage one on hanging.
Alex Semen Only impose decades of dictatorship murder and mayhem throughout Eastern Europe in the guise of the soviet union and cause further mayhem in Ukraine is that doing nothing ?
Ai Zhongguo From pickpocketing in Britain's high streets to rifling through the bins outside my house that's where
Well done Nigel. Ukip all the way no bullshit just straight talk. Told Clegg that's for sure :)
What Nick Clegg didn't mention when saying 7% of UK law is related to EU law is that 14% of secondary legislation is related, and that EU Regulations are not counted as they don't require UK legislation to be effective in UK law.
Nigel Farage aleady won the debate by default for me. Why? Because I don't trust Clegg, after he broke several major promises during the 2010 general election. How do we even know he is telling the truth now after that? Would rather take my chance with Farage, TBH.
this is how prime ministers should be conducted every week not the farce we see in parliament they should have to be answerable to the people face to face
that sounds like democracy..
Well that's how it used to be. The House of Commons being divided in half, is so that two opposing opinions/parties can debate opposing sides. But democracy has one weakness - And that is, if all the parties agree on the same important issues, AND can easily sway public opinion. Well, all the major parties agree on the EU and they have their spin doctors in the media. Just look at all the journalists, reporters, writers and editors at the BBC, Sky, Guardian, Telegraph, The Sun, that are members of labour or the conservatives. When I was in university, I can tell you that I met these types. Journalists and politicians are the same breed, their path is -> born into wealth -> public school -> oxford/cambridge (or another russell-group uni) -> media or politics. That is where they fork, i.e. into media, or into politics. They are elitist, politically-correct hypocrites.
Farage missed a trick near the start: Clegg claimed that, at the time of the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution's passing, the Liberal Democrats supported a straight in/out referendum (but ceased to see the need for one after it was a done deal, apparently). That, they alleged, was why they wouldn't back a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution alone -- they didn't think such a referendum would have gone far enough!
In reality,they didn't support a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty/European Constitution OR an in/out referendum. They never tried to pass a bill authorising an in/out referendum in the Commons, and when UKIP peers tried to pass one in the Lords they voted against it!
The man is an obvious liar; the broken tuition fees pledge underlined underlined it and this performance added the highlighter ink.
Apparently Nick Clegg speaks 5 languages and as far as I can see, he doesn't make sense in any of them.
It's because whatever language he speaks he does it with a forked tongue.
Complete wally. hopeless.
The main parties won't listen to you, don't delude yourself. Most Brits asked for a referendum but our masters said no.
For years people have said we have had too much immigration, but very little was done. They don't want to listen.
This is our country, and people should vote to punish the major parties.
the outright lies clegg spouted here lost him his seat
****Watching the news coverage of this debate on BBC made my blood boil. Their biased coverage against UKIP actually made Farage look bad and Clegg's debate look reasonable, amazingly. Most of the best points made by Farage were not given coverage. Please i urge everyone to share this on facebook and any other method possible so people can see the debate and then judge without media bigotry !
EXACTLY That unfortunately is the plan for the News... Clegg takes a battering in the LIVE debate... "we" all saw it :) They can't deny live TV, however not everyone watched it live... Everyone WAS probably watching the news, and so they cut out Nigels best bits and, made it look like Clegg actually did have something to say, by using the only parts where he opened his mouth. (Other than writhing in pain from Nigels amazing speech.) They will plant many loaded questions for the next round which will help Clegg out, because without that help... If this really was a fair debate for Nigel and Clegg.... Clegg would be on his knees begging for mercy.
Bob Dawkins The next debate is hosted by the BBC, so expect nobody in the audience that hasn't brought a translator with them.
The bbc are a farce, their propaganda is becoming increasingly apparent to everybody bar the cast and viewers of TOWIE...
next debate the bbc will be shipping the audience in from Brussels. Just like their rigged question time audiences. It's amazing what happens when the bbc isn't involved. Fair audience and time to speak nigel crushed poor cleggers
Definition of "Clegg": a large annoying fly that sucks the blood of animals.
www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/clegg
jeno neotrip Think its only got one "g", but I can't argue about the "blood sucking parasite" similarities with the two-g version. :)
Sorry your definition is ever so slightly wrong ha ha my definition would be a self delusional Double Dutch (Oh yes He's half Dutch you know!" fantasist and pathological Liar.
Clegg got destroyed! Time to get out of Europe.
Clegg just had is ass handed to him.
I dont totally with every point made by Farage and UKIP but I would certainly support UKIP over any of the other main parties. Go UKIP!
Nigel Farage Speaks For Us British, Nick Clegg Speaks For Europe, I'd Rather Have Someone More Concerned With Britain Running This Country Than Someone In Love With Europe With All Of Its Floors, UKIP Defiantly Won This Debate, Well Done Mr Farage!!!!!
EU = Banksters, Globalists, Zionists .... all of which are thoroughly anti British
scousehead Nothing wrong with bankers or Jews. The EU OTOH is criminal.
Edward Burroughs Lol wow , you need to read up about the US Federal Reserve and rich bankster families like the Rothschilds , Rockafellers etc.
Edward Burroughs He didn't say Jews, he said Zionists.
Oliver R We know what he meant, though. All the Jews I know, like myself, are pro UKIP.
Vote Ukip and get out of EU and be better off like we use to be
***** How will we be better off out? Well, we could start with the £54 million a day membership fee and go from there, if you wish. And when were we better off? When we and we alone governed our own country, perhaps, and made all of our own laws. Or even perhaps when we could choose which light bulb we wanted to use without some foreign and unelected fkn bureaucrat poking his nose in.
***** The £54 million a day membership fee has never, to the best of my knowledge, been seriously contested by anyone which is why UKIP continue to point it out. And where do you get the idea that our gross contribution is only £16.4 million? A quick Google showed a net - not gross - contribution in 2011 of almost 5 billion Euros. That's 5 billion of our hard-earned taxes simply given away to the unelected bureaucrats of the EU to spend as they see fit. How many doctors or teachers could we pay for with that kind of money? How many of those on low incomes, such as pensioners, could we take out of fuel poverty? I agree that our democracy was not perfect. In fact, far from it. But at least we had the chance to boot out those who failed our expectations. But we don't even have that now, for we do not elect and cannot remove 90% of the MEPs, and we can't even begin to touch the unelected bureaucrats who hold the real power. Give me an imperfect democracy rather than no democracy at all, for few can deny that the EU is about as undemocratic as it gets. But worse, it won't change. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. You really believe that those in control are going to surrender one iota of that control? They want more, not less, and that fkn snake-oil salesman Cameron knows he's talking bollocks when he spouts about "repatriation of powers". The EU is a sinking ship, and we need to get off or go down with it. PS light-bulbs - I was making the point that the EU interfere in practically every aspect of our lives. And that EU "eco-friendly" bulb? It contains the neurotoxin mercury.
***** We used to be number 1...even above China and the US until the 1970s...when the Suez Crisis and incidentally Britain's entry into the EU happened. Ever since we joined the UK has slowly gone downhill. We need out before we end up like all those other poor countries like Spain and Italy, even France's economy is going down the toilet.
***** My god, a book! I restate what I said before - our net annual contribution in 2011 was just under 5 billion Euros. Money wasted. Given away to prop up a failing EU and other failing economies. Money that, at a time of huge national debt and austerity should be spent here, where it was earned. I won't even bother with your comment about how we'll lose jobs if we leave. Clegg has tried on that lie twice, and failed twice.
dunholm1
There is a very good reason for spending money on what were Soviet block [now EU countries] so as to improve their infrastructure & thus make them more attractive to inward investment.
The reason being that unless they do attract said inward investment then their economies will sink into an abyss which will almost certainly result in civil wars that will both spill over into & drag in the rest of Europe [including the UK].
PS - little wonder that UKIP want to drastically enlarge the UK's armed forces as they do since even UKIP understand this!!
Mr Clegg , i think your house of commons library needs updating . Your facts and figures are ludicrous ! Wake up Britain and lets look after our own laws again .
CLEGG GO AND GET A JOB IN GREECE AND TELL THEM HOW GREAT IT IS IN THE EU .OR SPAIN ,PORTUGAL. ITALY. OR IRELAND ETC ETC ETC ..........
Farage is the only one speaking any sense.
Time to get out of the EU, and have some sensible Trading, UK will be much better of. Well done Nigel
easy win for Nigel
I wish I lived in the UK so I could vote UKIP. Co-operating sovereign states is the way to go! Pro Europe so against the EU! Greetings from Amsterdam
Clegg says there are not 29m people in Rumania and Bulgaria. Sorry, their combined pop is, guess what, 29m. Farage was NOT saying that 29m will come to the UK. He said they had the right. Get your facts Clegg!
Exactly, funny that this is the only thing the other party's like to dwell on, I like that Clegg couldn't answer the fact that 400+ million had the right to come and go from the UK as they please.
Gary Levy The fact that there are 485 million people in the EU, who have the right to migrate within the EU as and when they please, is not a valid statement regarding the actual levels of immigration within the UK.
First of all, this total includes the UK population. Second of all, not every single person in the EU wants to magically appear in the UK. If such a catastrophic consequence was actually likely, do you really think the government would be so concerned with remaining within the EU? The economic consequences would be disastrous.
There are many other countries in the EU with stronger economies than the UK and with higher standards of living and higher human development. In addition, there are also the EEA countries, some of which also have higher levels of human development than the UK, yet you don't see British people lining up to migrate to them, despite having the right to do so.
Joel Nichols
get back to the classroom you programmed little student you!!
This was not even a contest
Farage has a far superior personality. We're fed up of the manufactured drivel from the likes of Clegg.
Still want to stay in the EU though.
I'm not trying to start a youtube debate, I probably won't even reply to your next comment if you were to make one, but why do you want to stay in the EU?
The EU is the problem as any fool can see, they have no legal mandate to make any laws, never have and never will, Britain has its own laws, one of them being that no foreign power has any legal mandate, and anyone attempting to give them any power is guilty of treason, so why do you condone acts of treason. Also why on earth would we want any more immigrants in our country, we already have too many causing lack of housing, jobs, schools, hospitals etc etc, 1000's of homes have already been built on unfit land causing floods, how many more million would you like to stuff our country with, this is our home that you are intent on destroying. Why not increase the 70p/hr wages in the countries they are flocking from, instead of allowing them to be used for slave labour and leaving them to sleep on the streets. Are you evil or just stupid.
Self determinacy is nearly always a good thing mate. The whole agenda of these international partnerships is to decrease national sovereignity and the shackling of domestic populations is more easily acheived... see globalist, New world order aims and objectives
Why do we need so many tiers of government, there is no need for us to pay 55million pounds a day for additional tier of government. We no longer operate under any consent and live in a more police state than ever, it's just nuts
Nigel is a Boss. The only mainstream politician in the UK that I can actually take seriously.
very funny
well done Nigel for a truly profesional performance , Clegg was left to flounder in a sea of party politics and made a poor case for staying in the European Union. You spoke for the Nation keep up the good work.
everyone stand up for Democracy and vote UKIP!!
Game, set, match to Nigel Farage
Ukip had some great points. I will most likely be voting for them at the upcoming election.
Romania is ~21.3 million, Bulgaria ~7.3 million... is my maths wrong... isn't that 28.6 million people? Doesn't that round up to 29 million?
I'm so sick of career politicians lining their own nests and lying to us, they're just after a job in the EU.
God bless you Nigel.
Nigel Farage 1......... Nick Clogg 0.................................
"Quadrupled the penalties we're GOING to impose". That sums up this government
Actually, scrub that. When he's responding to Christopher the IT consultant and uses the term 'I don't know what your business is', that sums them up. HIS BUSINESS IS IT CONSULTING, THEY JUST FUCKING TOLD YOU THAT. Politicians could do with listening once in a while
Farage is one of those very rare politicians,beholding to no one and speaks the truth,I am not British but I admire the fact that his prime motivation is to make his country a better place for all the citizens not just the corporatists/globalists and special interest groups who put profit over people..
Nigel kicked botty.
VOTE UKIP.....LETS BE GREAT BRITAIN AGAIN.
My brilliant Indian colleagues (mathematicians and physicists) have to go over many hurdles to get entry to Britain and further difficulties after they have been here for two or three years. We need brilliance to keep us in the game with China. The EU cauterizes this kind of immigration.
wow... Farage, you have just gained a LOT of new support. (well at least to the already very rapidly growing party) Proud to be with you UKIP :) Here's to Great Britain's positive future! :) Thankyou for giving us hope again.
Nick Clegg refuses to answer the questions and keeps beating around the bush, your FINISHED clegg, you got owned my friend :)
At the 22 minute mark. Farage is performing very well.
Thanks for the countdown but I have seen differently. Ask me
Can't trust Clegg any more. How he still obtain's any vote is beyond me.
Clegg said the EU make 7% of our laws that was a huge lie he is quite simply a man whose career was made in Europe.
We can survive outside the EU with perfect trade agreements without the restrictive practice the EU impose upon the sale of our goods around the world.
John M
U say: "we can survive outside the U" - well yes: we probably can "surviver" but could we prosper in the way I presume U think we could??
Could we increase our trade with countries like India, Brazil etc: well they have their own socioeconomic problems which might render them unreliable trading partners.
& China? Well China has more interest [as it has stated] in the European market so may well pull out their investment in the UK [if the UK pulls out of the EU] as the UK would loose it's access to the European market & subsequently the Chinese loose their access to sell their made-in-the-UK products in Europe.
Or maybe U think the UK could be another Norway?? Well Norway still has lots of natural resources [North Sea gas/oil] & previously invested the proceeds from said resources abroad [to avoid inflationary problems that such resources bring] from which they derive a massive income. Moreover: the Norwegian socioeconomic model could NOT be more different to that which UKIP [libertarian/objectivist] have in mind & anyway: Norway is in the EU in all but name as it has signed up to most EU directives so as to access the European market.
So where &/or how do U see the UK fitting in if we leave the EU??
I assume politicians who have only ever been political researchers are the only people you believe in this matter the likes of Clegg and Cameron with no business acumen whatsoever, as it has not been a requirement given the job they do.
We are Germanys biggest export market so should the German Government try to stop doing business with us their own economy would fail and guess what German business that creates wealth would not allow that despite what politicians tell you.
You seem to also make the assumption that Governments make trade and sell our goods and services when its the competitiveness of them that make them attractive but always led by consumers who want to buy them.
If you run a business you would know trade is trade and I can only sell you something if you want it and if its at the right price. We are perfectly capable of organisation good trade agreements with countries and in many cases the tariffs imposed by the EU could be abolished making us more competitive
the whole idea and argument of % of laws is stupid, how do you quantify an amount of law.
Talking of a man whos career was made in Europe you should note that Nigel Farage is PAID by the EU!! Funny how he hates the "guy" paying him...
Yes and unlike the other leaders he had a real job in the city of London and came into politics out of conviction unlike this useless shower of shit we have now Lab Lib Con.
Directives and laws should be made by us for us so simple really and nothing wrong with that idea