Here's a nice bit of trivia, though: originally, Sophia was supposed to go up to Phil's casket and make a few sarcastic remarks about her son wearing a dress, but Estelle Getty refused to do it, saying that no mother (no *good* mother) would do such a thing at her own child's funeral. Thankfully the showrunners listened to her.
This is the episode. This one right here. Out of all seven seasons, this episode is the one that gives me the most emotions. I didn’t lose my brother, but I did lose my mother in 2013. I am not just a homosexual, but I am also dealing with gender identity issues. My mother passed without us ever coming to terms with her shame that I did not grow up to be the kind of man that she wanted me to be. I can still remember my mother crying, looking up at me asking me what she did wrong to make me gay. She did nothing but raised me and let me grow up into my own person. The final time I saw my mother before she passed, we had a fight because of her drinking problems. I have been holding that guilt since 2013. I love this episode so much because the conversation between Rose, Angela, and Sophia at the end, I wish I could have had that with my mother. Don’t let shame stop you from loving someone. There is no shame to be had in love. I’m angry that I didn’t have this wisdom to share with my mother, but I was only 19 when she passed. I was still a child. It was not my job to mend that relationship for her. I’ve been who I am for my entire life, that didn’t start because of the friends I made as an adult. I wish she would have been able to find that wisdom on her own. I am sorry for the passing of your brother. My brother is the only family I still have and I don’t know what I would do without him. I work hard every day in therapy and in life in general to give him the life he deserves. I’m glad that you had an emotional connection with this episode. It’s a powerful message that more people deserve to share with their loved ones while they’re still living. A little background on Sophia’s actress, Estelle Getty, as to how this performance was so powerful. She wasn’t acting. In the 70s and 80s, Estelle was acting on Broadway and if you remember, that was the height of the AIDS pandemic. Estelle saw a lot of her fellow actors, some young enough to be her children that she had that parental relationship with, pass away from the virus. When they were filming this episode, the writers tried to get her to say more offensive gay jokes but she outright refused them. Estelle was an ally to the LGBTQIA community and would not say homophobic jokes, by standards of the time at least. So when she is saying this goodbye at the end, that is raw emotion from her lived experiences in New York. MVP to Sophia but honorable mention to Rose for being the one to both ground Dorothy at the funeral and finally break through Sophia’s wall. And a final thank you to you, Alexxa, for continuing to upload this series through your own struggles. Thank you for being a friend ❤
So sorry about your brother. And so brave to share your real grief with us. This has always been one of the, if not just the, saddest episodes of the entire series. So many emotions there. I wish they made more comedy like this.
My condolences 💐 on your brother. When I saw this video pop up. I knew I was gonna watch it to get out a good cry and have a laugh. That’s the best thing about Golden Girls. Thank you from sharing.
My mother’s baby brother died of AIDS at 41 years old 5 years after this episode aired. My grandmother (their mother) took care of him at his home until he passed away. This episode always reminds me of them, I can’t imagine the unbelievable heartbreak of my grandmother taking care of her dying baby boy. My condolences for the loss of your brother ❤️
I think this is the only sitcom in my opinion that could actually evoke real tears and big laughs in one episode. This happened throughout several episodes during it's run.
That final scene with Sophia is one of the most realistic scenes in any television show. That feeling Sophia has is so real and isn't often portrayed on tv shows.
@@deedeesnicks She recently gave a funny interview where she says, "At some point during the show, each one of the Girls took her aside and asked her 'Who do you think is the real star of the show? She thinks it's her and she thinks it's her!'" 😅 But Brenda ends up saying it was a great experience and she had a lot of fun.
Apparently Cher was the original choice to play Angela? Cher was a huge fan of the show and there were several episodes where a role was written for her and she would end up backing out at the last minute. Apparently this was the last time they tried it
I had been waiting for u to react to this episode. Just like u I also always wanted to see Phil. Whenever someone asks me about my most favourite episode of the golden girls, this episode always comes to my mind first. I have to say Ebbtide's Revenge made me cry like no other. The biggest reason for it being my favourite episode is the scene where Sophia talks about "that dress thing", the anger in Estelle Getty's eyes I can't forget it. Knowing how much she did to protect queer ppl n the fact she considered them her family, makes that scene so much more impactful cuz u can clearly see the passion n emotions in her eyes. N then when she finally lets herself accept Phil's death n says "my baby's gone" it breaks ur soul. I was already loving the episode when Dorothy gave that eulogy. As a gay guy with a big sister n single mother that episode hit me like no other n the eulogy had already gotten me emotional. The actor who played Angela was phenomenal! N ofcourse we also had the Satan's secratary moment. N I know it was supposed to be a setup for a joke, but when Blanche looked at Phil n said "I don't see anything wrong with it", u have no idea what it did for me when I first watched this episode years back. N it still does that. It makes me happy n I can't explain it. I love Blanche for saying that.♥️ Estelle Getty was one of the best actors Hollywood had.
I saw a documentary about why all 4 of these women are icons to the gay community. They were huge allies and advocates. I saw Estelle Getty say during an interview that she literally owed her career from the very beginning to the gay community.
I am so sorry for your loss. I love my siblings so much. The ending scene is sad but I also tear up at Dorothy's eulogy, beautifully written and acted.
One of the more moving and profound episodes. It was hard for Estelle Getty because she was Pro Lgbtq before it was fashionable, but she pulled through.
This is why i love GG, this show touched on pretty much everything in life and having to deal with it at an older age, Susan Harris is a gem not to mention these wonderful actresses that most definitely paved the way,and im glad that Bea,Rue, Betty, and Estelle got their flowers not only by all winning emmys for GG but also when they receive that TV Land Awards, I think Estelle was too sick to attend and passed not too long after.. This show is a gem, and generation after generations will have the privilege to see these ladies legacy as they watch this brilliant show, Alexxa my sincere condolences to you on your brother passing, i live for your reactions to this wonderful show, your reactions are so raw and real, thank you ❤
Such a moving epsiode. I am sorry for your loss, too. I also lost my brother some years ago. And it is hard not to feel the sadness when something like this comes along and reminds me that he's gone.
Second to the last scene of the series finale, the ending to this episode hits my emotions too. Tears instantly roll, when Sophia tearfully whimpers "my baby is gone" -- immediate ugly cry.... Bc she singlehandedly contributed to Sophia's breakthrough and the subsequent make up of Angela & Sophia, I nominate Rose as the MVP of this episode! Lastly, my belated condolences on the transition of your brother...and I am sorry watching this episode stirred up all those emotions....hopefully, you had a nice, long cathartic cry XOXO Alexxa!!
Thank you so much! I really did! It showed me that grief isn't something you get over, but something you learn to live with. Some days (or moments) are harder than others and that's ok. ❤️
I lost one of my older brothers almost 30 years ago. I've never been that upset about it, but everyone deals with these types of situations differently.
I love love your reactions so much. I understand how hard it is to watch episodes like this. I have also lost everyone. I am literally the only one left in my family and I am still quite young, so episodes in almost any show hit me here and there. While I am blessed with more friends than I can keep up with, I sometimes still feel it, and this is one of the main reasons I do watch reactions on RUclips. YOU have helped me more often than one would think. Hahaha.
Dang it! I'm in tears again! First, I'm sorry for the losses you've had to endure. I pray that God keeps sending people in your life to make you feel cherished, loved and seen. Second, you and this community have helped me heal through recent losses in ways that have made me a better and stronger person, so thank you! ❤️💛
This is one of my favorite episodes, that shows how the Golden Girls is such a good series, balancing the humor and the serious issues. We didn't see Phil, but he was mentioned a few times during the series and when you rewatch the series you will notice the bits of information about him. The last part of the episode always makes me cry, because Sophia finally breaks down and shows the feelings she had been hiding the whole episode. Also, I loved that Rose, who doesn't always get credit for what she does or says, was on point and is the reason Sophia would finally allow herself to let go of the shame.
I thought there was foreshadowing in the season 5 episode Sick and Tired, when Sophia tells Blanche and Rose that Dorothy could die and it wouldn't seem right to lose a child.
Allo Belle Alexxa🌹, je ne croyais pas pleuré autant pour une épisode des Golden Girls, voir Sophia et toi Alexxa dans cet état à la fin 😢, désolé pour la perte de ton frère, une de mes épisodes préférées jusqu'a ce jour. merci ❤
Omg that episode got me crying. This sitcom is in my opinion the funniest sitcom ever created, but they sure know how to pull at your heart strings and tell real raw stories that deflect real life issues and real societal issue. They know how to make a real life taboo issue especially back then, and humanize it and show compassion and love...and show the viewers real empathy and remorse regardless of whom they've been...he was a crossdresser, but they told us a clear story about him, they made the viewers show compassion and empathy for him and his family. It's about acceptance and tolerance, letting you all know just because he dressed like a women doesn't mean he was less of a human, he was a good human being, that loved people and showed kindness, helped and gave to people, he supported his family and loved his children...he was a good man regardless...dressing up as a women doesn't mean he is transgender, or gay, he was heterosexual who just loved dressing up in women's Clothing...he lived his life how he wanted too, On his terms and what made him happy. He would still be the first to help another fellow human being and take the coat of his jacket to keep another person warm. He would be the first person to save your life and put his own life in jeopardy, he is the first to help you and defend you well everyone else watched and did Nothing, he would help you up when you fall....a good hearted person. It's about humanity! who cares about the fabric or colors you wear or what you wear it's about the human being within was the moral of the story. This episode was heart wrenching 😢 The writing and storytelling in this iconic sitcom is quite extraordinary.
I've lost a brother and 3 sisters. The brother that I lost, was a Marine Corps veteran, like me. Since I perform military veteran funeral services, it fell on me to present the folded flag from my brother's casket to his wife. Emotionally, that was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do. Later, his wife gave me all of his military uniforms. I had his dress blues uniform tailored to fit me and I wear that uniform to the Marine Corps Birthday Ball each year, to honor my brother.
My father died some years ago and seeing Sophia's pain reminds me of my grandmother. Sophia's last line gets me every time: "My baby is gone!" Just heartbreaking...😢
So many children feel like that today, like they are a mistake, or something is wrong with them, because of orientation or some other characteristic that doesn't align with their parents' values.
I lost my older sister 7 years ago unexpectedly. As hard as that was, I think it was harder to see what it did to my mom. And, less than 5 years later, my mom passed away. And, for both reasons, I try to not watch this episode.
I don't like how Dorothy blames her brother questioning why HE didn't have the wisdom. How come Y'ALL didn't have the wisdom? No thanks.. His wife was there for him regardless of his sexuality or gender expression but his own mother didn't.. And that was her loss and pain to now deal with.. Sorry Sophia you are wrong! Your baby was there all the time but YOU let your own beliefs and expectations keep you from loving him. Sorry not sorry you are not right. He was constantly portrayed on the show as a joke.
I understand what you're saying and it does come across that way. What's interesting too, especially with her delivery and the camera work, is that she was also expressing regret for her own lack of wisdom and how she also failed to keep them together as siblings. And by extension, she's also speaking to Sophia.
Sorry about your brother. This was a great episode and very poignant. I give MVP to Rose and Sophia Rose can be very wise when it comes to some things and she asked the right questions to get Sophia to face what she felt about her son blaming herself and Angela reminding her he was a good person. Its highly discussed who should have played Phil if he had been shown Harvey Fierstein comes up a lot and some others i agree with too but IMO while i do think it would have been cool to show him but it’s probably best to leave it to our imaginations like with Charlie. IDK who the writers or actresses imagined if anyone in their descriptions and feelings about Phil. Im sure Betty was probably thinking of her husband when talking about Charlie for her to show emotions Estelle worked with Harvey Fierstein in Torch Song Trilogy on Broadway so it would have been a reunion her playing his mother again
A fictional story is often inspired by many true stories. I'm sure you didnt watch Alexxa's comments (background story) after this episode. Not everyone has a heart Tin Man 🤖
Here's a nice bit of trivia, though: originally, Sophia was supposed to go up to Phil's casket and make a few sarcastic remarks about her son wearing a dress, but Estelle Getty refused to do it, saying that no mother (no *good* mother) would do such a thing at her own child's funeral. Thankfully the showrunners listened to her.
Yes she wouldn't have any part of being intolerant to people because of their race religion or sexuality
That's amazing ❤️
@@Kelaiah01 Estelle Getty was a HUGE & fierce supporter of the LGBTIQA community
This is the episode. This one right here. Out of all seven seasons, this episode is the one that gives me the most emotions. I didn’t lose my brother, but I did lose my mother in 2013. I am not just a homosexual, but I am also dealing with gender identity issues. My mother passed without us ever coming to terms with her shame that I did not grow up to be the kind of man that she wanted me to be. I can still remember my mother crying, looking up at me asking me what she did wrong to make me gay. She did nothing but raised me and let me grow up into my own person. The final time I saw my mother before she passed, we had a fight because of her drinking problems. I have been holding that guilt since 2013.
I love this episode so much because the conversation between Rose, Angela, and Sophia at the end, I wish I could have had that with my mother. Don’t let shame stop you from loving someone. There is no shame to be had in love. I’m angry that I didn’t have this wisdom to share with my mother, but I was only 19 when she passed. I was still a child. It was not my job to mend that relationship for her. I’ve been who I am for my entire life, that didn’t start because of the friends I made as an adult. I wish she would have been able to find that wisdom on her own.
I am sorry for the passing of your brother. My brother is the only family I still have and I don’t know what I would do without him. I work hard every day in therapy and in life in general to give him the life he deserves. I’m glad that you had an emotional connection with this episode. It’s a powerful message that more people deserve to share with their loved ones while they’re still living.
A little background on Sophia’s actress, Estelle Getty, as to how this performance was so powerful. She wasn’t acting. In the 70s and 80s, Estelle was acting on Broadway and if you remember, that was the height of the AIDS pandemic. Estelle saw a lot of her fellow actors, some young enough to be her children that she had that parental relationship with, pass away from the virus. When they were filming this episode, the writers tried to get her to say more offensive gay jokes but she outright refused them. Estelle was an ally to the LGBTQIA community and would not say homophobic jokes, by standards of the time at least. So when she is saying this goodbye at the end, that is raw emotion from her lived experiences in New York. MVP to Sophia but honorable mention to Rose for being the one to both ground Dorothy at the funeral and finally break through Sophia’s wall.
And a final thank you to you, Alexxa, for continuing to upload this series through your own struggles. Thank you for being a friend ❤
Hugs of understanding and solidarity, sibling ⚧🌈💖
I cry everytime I see that scene where Sophia says "My baby is gone".
I love how Rose emerged as the MVP in the eleventh hour of the episode
This episode and the last one never fail to make my tears pour! Estelle Getty is such a amazing actress. Awesome reaction, Alexxa.
So sorry about your brother. And so brave to share your real grief with us. This has always been one of the, if not just the, saddest episodes of the entire series. So many emotions there. I wish they made more comedy like this.
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This was the SADDEST episode of the entire series. ☹☹☹
My condolences 💐 on your brother. When I saw this video pop up. I knew I was gonna watch it to get out a good cry and have a laugh. That’s the best thing about Golden Girls. Thank you from sharing.
My mother’s baby brother died of AIDS at 41 years old 5 years after this episode aired. My grandmother (their mother) took care of him at his home until he passed away. This episode always reminds me of them, I can’t imagine the unbelievable heartbreak of my grandmother taking care of her dying baby boy.
My condolences for the loss of your brother ❤️
I think this is the only sitcom in my opinion that could actually evoke real tears and big laughs in one episode. This happened throughout several episodes during it's run.
We never even met Phil, and yet this episode still manages to take your breath away
That final scene with Sophia is one of the most realistic scenes in any television show. That feeling Sophia has is so real and isn't often portrayed on tv shows.
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Thank you for ur honest reaction 👍
This episode always gets me. Alexa, sorry for your loss 🙏🏾
Smoky-voiced Brenda Vaccaro as Angela received an Emmy nomination for her guest appearance.
Oh wow, I didn't know this
@@deedeesnicks She recently gave a funny interview where she says, "At some point during the show, each one of the Girls took her aside and asked her 'Who do you think is the real star of the show? She thinks it's her and she thinks it's her!'" 😅 But Brenda ends up saying it was a great experience and she had a lot of fun.
Apparently Cher was the original choice to play Angela? Cher was a huge fan of the show and there were several episodes where a role was written for her and she would end up backing out at the last minute. Apparently this was the last time they tried it
I had been waiting for u to react to this episode. Just like u I also always wanted to see Phil. Whenever someone asks me about my most favourite episode of the golden girls, this episode always comes to my mind first. I have to say Ebbtide's Revenge made me cry like no other. The biggest reason for it being my favourite episode is the scene where Sophia talks about "that dress thing", the anger in Estelle Getty's eyes I can't forget it. Knowing how much she did to protect queer ppl n the fact she considered them her family, makes that scene so much more impactful cuz u can clearly see the passion n emotions in her eyes. N then when she finally lets herself accept Phil's death n says "my baby's gone" it breaks ur soul. I was already loving the episode when Dorothy gave that eulogy. As a gay guy with a big sister n single mother that episode hit me like no other n the eulogy had already gotten me emotional. The actor who played Angela was phenomenal! N ofcourse we also had the Satan's secratary moment. N I know it was supposed to be a setup for a joke, but when Blanche looked at Phil n said "I don't see anything wrong with it", u have no idea what it did for me when I first watched this episode years back. N it still does that. It makes me happy n I can't explain it. I love Blanche for saying that.♥️
Estelle Getty was one of the best actors Hollywood had.
I saw a documentary about why all 4 of these women are icons to the gay community. They were huge allies and advocates. I saw Estelle Getty say during an interview that she literally owed her career from the very beginning to the gay community.
I am so sorry for your loss. I love my siblings so much. The ending scene is sad but I also tear up at Dorothy's eulogy, beautifully written and acted.
Thank you ❤️
One of the more moving and profound episodes. It was hard for Estelle Getty because she was Pro Lgbtq before it was fashionable, but she pulled through.
After watching her Intimate Portrait, I can see this episode in a whole new way. It's even more heartbreaking!
This is why i love GG, this show touched on pretty much everything in life and having to deal with it at an older age, Susan Harris is a gem not to mention these wonderful actresses that most definitely paved the way,and im glad that Bea,Rue, Betty, and Estelle got their flowers not only by all winning emmys for GG but also when they receive that TV Land Awards, I think Estelle was too sick to attend and passed not too long after.. This show is a gem, and generation after generations will have the privilege to see these ladies legacy as they watch this brilliant show, Alexxa my sincere condolences to you on your brother passing, i live for your reactions to this wonderful show, your reactions are so raw and real, thank you ❤
Such a moving epsiode. I am sorry for your loss, too. I also lost my brother some years ago. And it is hard not to feel the sadness when something like this comes along and reminds me that he's gone.
This season has some real gut punches. This and Mrs. George Deveraux are my favourite episodes.
Second to the last scene of the series finale, the ending to this episode hits my emotions too. Tears instantly roll, when Sophia tearfully whimpers "my baby is gone" -- immediate ugly cry....
Bc she singlehandedly contributed to Sophia's breakthrough and the subsequent make up of Angela & Sophia, I nominate Rose as the MVP of this episode!
Lastly, my belated condolences on the transition of your brother...and I am sorry watching this episode stirred up all those emotions....hopefully, you had a nice, long cathartic cry XOXO Alexxa!!
Thank you so much! I really did! It showed me that grief isn't something you get over, but something you learn to live with. Some days (or moments) are harder than others and that's ok. ❤️
I feel ya. This episode always wrecks me. Such gorgeous writing.
I lost one of my older brothers almost 30 years ago. I've never been that upset about it, but everyone deals with these types of situations differently.
The priest also played reverend Meechum in mama’s family with Betty and Rue.
I love love your reactions so much. I understand how hard it is to watch episodes like this. I have also lost everyone. I am literally the only one left in my family and I am still quite young, so episodes in almost any show hit me here and there. While I am blessed with more friends than I can keep up with, I sometimes still feel it, and this is one of the main reasons I do watch reactions on RUclips. YOU have helped me more often than one would think. Hahaha.
Dang it! I'm in tears again! First, I'm sorry for the losses you've had to endure. I pray that God keeps sending people in your life to make you feel cherished, loved and seen. Second, you and this community have helped me heal through recent losses in ways that have made me a better and stronger person, so thank you! ❤️💛
@ Then we can be in tears together sometimes!! Hahaha. Hopefully more laughs though! Be well :)
I'm so sorry to hear that ❤
This is one of my favorite episodes, that shows how the Golden Girls is such a good series, balancing the humor and the serious issues. We didn't see Phil, but he was mentioned a few times during the series and when you rewatch the series you will notice the bits of information about him.
The last part of the episode always makes me cry, because Sophia finally breaks down and shows the feelings she had been hiding the whole episode. Also, I loved that Rose, who doesn't always get credit for what she does or says, was on point and is the reason Sophia would finally allow herself to let go of the shame.
This is wild. I was replying this episode in my head all morning, and when I turned on RUclips, this was the first one in my feed 😮
season 5 Ebbtide, Bid Daddy died.
this season Ebbtide's revenge, Phil died.
too bad the writers, didn't include Gloria. Phil is also, her brother.
Will be watching this after work, to kick off my 3 day off stretch. Yes!!!
I thought there was foreshadowing in the season 5 episode Sick and Tired, when Sophia tells Blanche and Rose that Dorothy could die and it wouldn't seem right to lose a child.
This is a very intense and emotional episode
I think we all cry
My husband lost his brother - Dorothy’s eulogy always hits hard because I can identify with those feelings
When I tell you I have been waiting for you to see this episode!!!
Allo Belle Alexxa🌹, je ne croyais pas pleuré autant pour une épisode des Golden Girls, voir Sophia et toi Alexxa dans cet état à la fin 😢, désolé pour la perte de ton frère, une de mes épisodes préférées jusqu'a ce jour. merci ❤
Merci énormement! ❤️
Omg that episode got me crying.
This sitcom is in my opinion the funniest sitcom ever created, but they sure know how to pull at your heart strings and tell real raw stories that deflect real life issues and real societal issue.
They know how to make a real life taboo issue especially back then,
and humanize it and show compassion and love...and show the viewers real empathy and remorse regardless of whom they've been...he was a crossdresser, but they told us a clear story about him, they made the viewers show compassion and empathy for him and his family.
It's about acceptance and tolerance, letting you all know just because he dressed like a women doesn't mean he was less of a human, he was a good human being, that loved people and showed kindness, helped and gave to people, he supported his family and loved his children...he was a good man regardless...dressing up as a women doesn't mean he is transgender, or gay, he was heterosexual who just loved dressing up in women's Clothing...he lived his life how he wanted too, On his terms and what made him happy.
He would still be the first to help another fellow human being and take the coat of his jacket to keep another person warm. He would be the first person to save your life and put his own life in jeopardy, he is the first to help you and defend you well everyone else watched and did Nothing, he would help you up when you fall....a good hearted person.
It's about humanity! who cares about the fabric or colors you wear or what you wear it's about the human being within was the moral of the story.
This episode was heart wrenching 😢
The writing and storytelling in this iconic sitcom is quite extraordinary.
I'm very sorry for the loss of your brother.
I've lost a brother and 3 sisters. The brother that I lost, was a Marine Corps veteran, like me. Since I perform military veteran funeral services, it fell on me to present the folded flag from my brother's casket to his wife. Emotionally, that was one of the hardest things I have ever had to do. Later, his wife gave me all of his military uniforms. I had his dress blues uniform tailored to fit me and I wear that uniform to the Marine Corps Birthday Ball each year, to honor my brother.
I am so sorry for your losses and I'm thankful for your brother's service ❤️💛
"Call me old-fashioned, but why didn't he just drink?"
My father died some years ago and seeing Sophia's pain reminds me of my grandmother. Sophia's last line gets me every time: "My baby is gone!" Just heartbreaking...😢
I'm sorry for your loss. I can't imagine the pain you and your grandmother have gone through. ❤️
This is the one I've been dreading for weeks now 😢
I am Sooo Sorry for your brother
The fact this review came a week after my husband's co-worker lost her son just breaks my heart. 💔
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So many children feel like that today, like they are a mistake, or something is wrong with them, because of orientation or some other characteristic that doesn't align with their parents' values.
You kind of have to wonder where Gloria was this episode
Phil never appeared on an episode. They only talked about him every once in a while. His children never appeared, and his wife only on this episode.
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I know what you mean with loss of family. I lost my oldest brother in Jan 2017, my other brother in Mar 2021, and my dad in Sep 2024.
My condolences on your losses ❤️
I pray God completely heals your heart. The two year anniversay of my mom's passing is coming up. Difficult time.
Thank you so much! I pray the same for you. I'm so sorry for your loss ❤️
I lost my older sister 7 years ago unexpectedly. As hard as that was, I think it was harder to see what it did to my mom. And, less than 5 years later, my mom passed away. And, for both reasons, I try to not watch this episode.
I'm so sorry for your losses! My thoughts are with you ❤️
This is a sad episode 😢
I don't like how Dorothy blames her brother questioning why HE didn't have the wisdom. How come Y'ALL didn't have the wisdom? No thanks.. His wife was there for him regardless of his sexuality or gender expression but his own mother didn't.. And that was her loss and pain to now deal with.. Sorry Sophia you are wrong! Your baby was there all the time but YOU let your own beliefs and expectations keep you from loving him. Sorry not sorry you are not right. He was constantly portrayed on the show as a joke.
I can understand your point of view!
I understand what you're saying and it does come across that way.
What's interesting too, especially with her delivery and the camera work, is that she was also expressing regret for her own lack of wisdom and how she also failed to keep them together as siblings. And by extension, she's also speaking to Sophia.
Sorry about your brother.
This was a great episode and very poignant. I give MVP to Rose and Sophia Rose can be very wise when it comes to some things and she asked the right questions to get Sophia to face what she felt about her son blaming herself and Angela reminding her he was a good person.
Its highly discussed who should have played Phil if he had been shown Harvey Fierstein comes up a lot and some others i agree with too but IMO while i do think it would have been cool to show him but it’s probably best to leave it to our imaginations like with Charlie. IDK who the writers or actresses imagined if anyone in their descriptions and feelings about Phil. Im sure Betty was probably thinking of her husband when talking about Charlie for her to show emotions Estelle worked with Harvey Fierstein in Torch Song Trilogy on Broadway so it would have been a reunion her playing his mother again
Sophia Dorothy Phil Angela Big Sally
You're getting way too emotional over a fictional story
I know! I love that about me 😊
A fictional story is often inspired by many true stories. I'm sure you didnt watch Alexxa's comments (background story) after this episode. Not everyone has a heart Tin Man 🤖
having access to your emotions is a strength, what a shame you aren't as emotionally developed as the rest of us
It's a fictional story that happens everyday around the world. Everyday there is a mom out there grieving the loss of her child.
@@AlexxaReacts And yes we do love that about you Alexxa 🌹❤