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I just figured out like 10 minutes ago .I was like where the heck is the oil. I kept using a pumpjack.Then realized it was a oil lake or whatever when i moused over them.
still incredible that the starter base of so long ago with just little modification can carry you all the way past green science a really good solid blueprint from a veteran at the game :) enjoying space age right now the devs really put in theyre weight on this happy building everybody!!!!
I love that little starter base i found another one clearly inspired using a city block and does everything up to chem blue sci i have been to 2 planets and still not ripped it down lmao though i feel going to space before setting up proper yellow utility science is a trap 😂 also power poles need wire not copper plates so you have to modify some designs but that is fun 😊
Ты просто спас меня, думал уже никогда не найду нормальное объяснение как сделать параметризацию универсального логистического завода, это же просто необходимая вещь экономящая время.
If you want to mimic the way the game sets up requester chests when you copy/paste an assembler recipe onto them (i.e. request just enough for 30 seconds of crafting) you can use this formula instead: (30/p0_t)*p0_i1. Then just repeat for all ingredients, changing p0_i1 to p0_i2, p0_i3, etc.
I wonder what the lore reason is for the oil lakes on Fulgora. They make up the majority of the surface, that amount of ore doesn't just come out of nowhere. Is it naturally occurring? Was it left behind by the civilisation that lived on the planet? Is it a result of pollution, or was it intentional? Fulgora is creepy af. Definitely my favourite planet so far.
@@bakashiki4514 No oxygen maybe, the previous alien civilization might not be oxygen breathing. Anyway that’s the same reason a place like titan with lakes of liquid methane also doesn’t burn
its very distant and cold planet, as soon fire start the heat getting sucked off by adjacent environment that fire heat cant keep up, also lack of oxygen also.
11:54 You should put your inserters and boxes to the right or left side rather than centered so that you could make a second one vertically mirrored and use up all the space between your buildings.
I have already finished my exploration of fulgora for my first playthrough, heading to gleba now, but HOW did you get such a large land mass on fulgora?? I cannot find a place larger than a quarter of the size of your building location...
Yeah that was the first thing I noticed too. My biggest land mass fits in a 6x6 square of roboports, but about a third of that is ocean. Not only does that give you a tight space to build in, but since your power generation is tied to the land area your lightning rods protect, you're power starved too.
i kinda did the same thing as the paramitised bp machine but with circuit conditions as you can control buildings themselfs now but nice to know of other ways i can see that being quite powefull tool
It's probably already mentioned, but you could simplify the parameterized craft. Connect the chest to the factory, then "read ingredients" and you are set.
Is there a way to increase how much resources get requested? This only requests the exact amount to make the item, which results in a lot of downtime waiting for the next delivery to arrive, when requesting 3 or 4 times as many would stop this
@@nordishharfaklidConnect the factory to an arithmetic combinator, do each * 4 or whatever, output each, finally connect to the chest. Warning: don't do this for very expensive crafts like rocket silos or you'll request more than will fit in the chest and you'll end up getting starved for some of your ingredients.
You had copper just sitting there already? My superconductor setup never got any copper and I've been scrapping for hours, are we supposed to manually set up a copper wire recycling loop to ensure we have copper plate? Also, plastic was thin on the ground as well. Are we supposed to be importing these base materials or trying to make them locally on the side?
Everything is in the loop. You just have to set the stockpile levels for cables low to start recycling cables before the chests fill up. Incidentally I recommend using a constant combinator to set those levels - it beats manually setting the numbers on all the return inserters.
Would it be more efficient to import coal (and refine and crack the na ive heavy oil) to make plastic? The amount of coal you can fit on a rocket will get you more plastic than fits on a rocket.
You can only get 500 coal on a rocket, compared to 2000 plastic. You can also fit twice the amount of plastic on a platform compared to coal, so you're not gaining anything there either.
i would said import plastic from Gleba/Nauvis look way better, for just space platform its hard to build quickly enough on fulgora before medium asteroids fly hit you.
i think the electromagnetic plant passes through the holmium solution as indicated by the in/out arrows, so you can daisy chain multiple plants together without pipes
Hi, I don't get something with parameter in blueprint, when I select a building to set it to parameter 0, I don't see the menu with parameter... do you have any hint about it ? something to activate in the setting maybe ?
Did they change the parametrise feature to now only show what the machine (in this case electromagnetic plant) is capable of crafting? Because that's what I'm now seeing in game.
Same here. It's definitely not there on default settings. You have to go to SETTINGS, then Interface Settings, then inside the box labeled "Interaction," there's a checkbox that's unchecked, "Show parameters in selection list." Check that box. I wonder how many other cool things I never knew about because I figured settings were, you know, brightness and volume settings, not IN GAME FEATURES!?!? I'm gonna guess that Wube figured it's just gonna confuse people, so make it an optional thing. If Nilaus didn't point this out to me via this video, I never would have known parameters even existed. This game is... It's fascinating.
What's your opinion on quality all the way through? That is, quality modules on miners, furnaces, assemblers, blah blah blah. It looks like it's impossible to make work without some awful filtered cars sort of build, especially for stuff like green circuits. But that efficiency, it's tantalizing...
@@warwicksulista8320 Right? I can just imagine some new player unlocks them, automates some, and puts them in their build - and obviously, it immediately clogs. Honestly most of why it's such ass to deal with is that you can't filter chest slots. Trains, you can, and that makes it easy! Chests, you have to use inserter circuit conditions. Which means a combinator. Which means bad UPS. Terrible. It's not as bad if you just use bots for everything, of course. It just feels like belts are horribly equipped to do anything with quality involved.
@@boisq97 I believe that it gives only 25% back, which means that you're going to be losing ¾ of your uncommon tier to make the next level up, and so on. Probably not a good early game strategy?
You have to request _some_ quantity. If you request 4G or something and limit to one stack, it will only work if the recipe only has one ingredient. Otherwise it will fill up with one ingredient and starve the rest. Unlike train wagons, you can't filter chest slots to limit it automatically.
Hi Nilaus, quick question If I've understood correctly, the videos you release every day on Factorio are condensed streams from nilaus ts, is that correct? If so, do you plan to make a video every day until the end of this game? I'd like to be able to follow an entire game, but unfortunately I don't have several hours a day to watch a stream. I find your videos perfect for my needs.
I am playing 2 worlds simultaneously, but both started from the same starter base; one for RUclips and one for Twitch. It is not the same base or the same content, I play it several times in parallel to create the content. Generally, Twitch is ahead and is for experimentation while RUclips is more focused on what I have learned while experimenting on Twitch. The RUclips series is a condensed version of a parallel playthrough as Twitch
@@Nilaus Thanks for your reply. It will be a pleasure to follow your adventure. I used to watch a French streamer, but he does factorio 13 hours a day and I don't have time to watch so much content. You're going to allow me to discover factorio in a better way, I like that.
You can't mine coal in space, you have to synthesize it from carbon and sulfur, which is unlocked by the advanced asteroid processing and rocket turret techs from Gleba.
Is anyone doing a quality base? Any good circuit condition to avoid endless recycling so I do not burn my scrap stockpile too fast. I think recycling just to make room for other materials is acceptable. but I do not want to do it when there is no science pack/quality shop demand. I want to prioritize shipping rocket parts and heavy oil to other planets when they exceed their stockpile.
@ heavy is needed for shops and orbital shipping. Could have deadlock when no science research is in progress, and I would like to have flamethrower in my new cannon emplacement.
@ light needs cracking, cracking need water, water is not entirely free on fulgora. I already use cracking for extra batteries. Demand on heavy oil is unknown in future scaling. So I choose to ship heavy.
Space introduces five new packs so that should be 12 total, if I recall correctly. A far sight better than Space Exploration which has like 20+ new science packs.
My Fulgora was extremely unlucky. I was going for the no yellow or purple science achievement and it was my first planet, so there’s that. But the location… A 51 Million scrap deposit in a tiny island, just barely close enough to another tiny island to share logistics network but no power connection. The big islands closeby are too far away for either, so no expanding to that till I can build on oil or at least put trains on oil. Miserable. Power outages regularly because I don’t really have room for many capacitors, and almosr everything done at a snails pace by logistics bots. But hey, 51 Million Scrap, am I right. 10/10 would rush Fulgora again.
@@PremierSullivan what? belts are not complex.. and there is no throughput problems with bots .. the high quantity things go on belts (scrap + what comes out of it, some components) then the rest of the things are not in that big of quantity.. tldr - since bots have weaker throughput , make belt hybrids. factorio players fall into the rabbit hole of efficiency... having everything perfect is slower way to progress and you will actually produce less because it takes more time
Rough self contained modules are easy to scope, and belts are inexpensive and convenient for passing resources internally. Having logistics bots handle the external plumbing means it starts working early, giving you time and resources to plan actual belt connections or a whole different build later. It could be the best strategy, it might not, but really it just comes down to whether it's fun for the person building it.
@@tukib_ I think it would be faster to do the hybridization the opposite way. Put logi chests on every machine and then put passive provider chest on main bus belts near the modules.
I spent ages trying to set up Parameterization. Than I found the game has it turned off (why? who knows) so I turned it on (go to "settings" then "interface" then put tick against "show parameters in selection lists".... now I have access to menu items previously hidden...... Would have been good to know that Nilaus. So then I followed the parameterize instruction at 14:00 but the blueprint does not show the Product prompt. Beats me. I think its time to give up on Factorio. It is vastly different from 1.0 (I played over 6000 hours ) and obviously not for the likes of me. I am not a programmer, I didn't get to go to LAN parties to learn the game nor do I have access to the developers. Its way, way too frustrating... the enjoyment has really gone out if it. It destroyed my blueprints and the mod's I used for trains don't work anymore. I have wasted days re-creating blueprints. The new train system is rubbish... it is not at all intuitive. Its just frustrating. It feels like work - it sure ain't an enjoyable anymore. I have struggled with this for long enough.
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11:15 For anyone else who can't find it. Settings--> interface --> "Show parameters in selection lists"
i was just about to ask - may the Lord reward you for this hint!
Thanks!!
i thought that was a mod, thank you
God bless you man!
Most important lesson to learn here ? Go find a bigger island when you land ;-p
Somehow I completely missed those were heavy oil lakes and was so confused for a while where that oil was coming from. Great series, thanks!
I just figured out like 10 minutes ago .I was like where the heck is the oil. I kept using a pumpjack.Then realized it was a oil lake or whatever when i moused over them.
Yeah I totally was sending in heavy oil from Nauvis oops.
still incredible that the starter base of so long ago with just little modification can carry you all the way past green science a really good solid blueprint from a veteran at the game :) enjoying space age right now the devs really put in theyre weight on this happy building everybody!!!!
I love that little starter base i found another one clearly inspired using a city block and does everything up to chem blue sci i have been to 2 planets and still not ripped it down lmao though i feel going to space before setting up proper yellow utility science is a trap 😂 also power poles need wire not copper plates so you have to modify some designs but that is fun 😊
I love how efficient your designs are.
same. my fulgora definitely doesn't look like that lol
Ты просто спас меня, думал уже никогда не найду нормальное объяснение как сделать параметризацию универсального логистического завода, это же просто необходимая вещь экономящая время.
oh nilaus in gleba is going to be golden.
The timing. I'm seeeeeeeeeeeething
I can't get over how _good_ those new crafters sound
ty for the videos. the 69 hints was/is very hepful. already watched twice. im only a few hours into game. looking forward to this..
Such a pretty pink plate setup. followed by parameter dark arts... oh lawd. so much to learn about circuits.
Wow - the parameterized blueprints are awesome!
The fluid transport system could be called the Stream, since it’s a collection of channels :P
Here here! The megabase version shall be called "The River"
If you want to mimic the way the game sets up requester chests when you copy/paste an assembler recipe onto them (i.e. request just enough for 30 seconds of crafting) you can use this formula instead: (30/p0_t)*p0_i1. Then just repeat for all ingredients, changing p0_i1 to p0_i2, p0_i3, etc.
26:47 he finally admits the 'not a bus' is a bus
Micro? Looks pretty average to me
Sounds like a reply to a disapponted girlfriend...
@@Nilaus Boom Roasted! 😂
Larger than any I’ve seen
Huge even.
You should see his big modules… ;) This IS micro.
I clearly not playong the same game 😅😅 you re such a beast. Nice approach so clever
I wonder what the lore reason is for the oil lakes on Fulgora. They make up the majority of the surface, that amount of ore doesn't just come out of nowhere.
Is it naturally occurring? Was it left behind by the civilisation that lived on the planet? Is it a result of pollution, or was it intentional?
Fulgora is creepy af. Definitely my favourite planet so far.
The FFF that revealed Fulgora said it was due to the pollution of the previous civilization
Earth Year 5028
I wonder why the whole planet isn't on fire. Oil seas and extreme lightning!
@@bakashiki4514 No oxygen maybe, the previous alien civilization might not be oxygen breathing. Anyway that’s the same reason a place like titan with lakes of liquid methane also doesn’t burn
its very distant and cold planet, as soon fire start the heat getting sucked off by adjacent environment that fire heat cant keep up, also lack of oxygen also.
only thing you could improve in your design is to use the the fact that those machine can passthrough liquids, you may be able to save a bit of space
I've been doing this for blue circuits on Vulcanus.
nilaus the factorio legend
“But if you are too lazy, and are also a Patreon supporter…” :D
11:54 You should put your inserters and boxes to the right or left side rather than centered so that you could make a second one vertically mirrored and use up all the space between your buildings.
I have already finished my exploration of fulgora for my first playthrough, heading to gleba now, but HOW did you get such a large land mass on fulgora?? I cannot find a place larger than a quarter of the size of your building location...
Yeah that was the first thing I noticed too. My biggest land mass fits in a 6x6 square of roboports, but about a third of that is ocean. Not only does that give you a tight space to build in, but since your power generation is tied to the land area your lightning rods protect, you're power starved too.
i kinda did the same thing as the paramitised bp machine but with circuit conditions as you can control buildings themselfs now but nice to know of other ways i can see that being quite powefull tool
electrolytes, It's what plants crave.
But what are electrolytes!?
@Nilaus How do you have your Electromagnetic Plant pipe inputs facing each other? Whenever I rotate or place mine they are always 1 unit off?
Nevermind there is a flip setting. Lol. there is also a cut wow.....This game is easier now.
The new parameterized mechanic os super confusing, but looks loaded with potential 😂
Need yo look up more updated logistics tutorials 😅
It's probably already mentioned, but you could simplify the parameterized craft. Connect the chest to the factory, then "read ingredients" and you are set.
Is there a way to increase how much resources get requested? This only requests the exact amount to make the item, which results in a lot of downtime waiting for the next delivery to arrive, when requesting 3 or 4 times as many would stop this
@@nordishharfaklidConnect the factory to an arithmetic combinator, do each * 4 or whatever, output each, finally connect to the chest. Warning: don't do this for very expensive crafts like rocket silos or you'll request more than will fit in the chest and you'll end up getting starved for some of your ingredients.
Do the Electromagnetic Plants pass liquids through? So if I daisy chained them with the liquid outputs touching, would the liquid flow to the end?
Looking at the plant when placed the liquid inputs have little indicator arrows pointing both directions, I think that means they’re pass through
Yes they do, I've exploited this for blue circuits on Vulcanus.
You had copper just sitting there already? My superconductor setup never got any copper and I've been scrapping for hours, are we supposed to manually set up a copper wire recycling loop to ensure we have copper plate?
Also, plastic was thin on the ground as well. Are we supposed to be importing these base materials or trying to make them locally on the side?
Everything is in the loop. You just have to set the stockpile levels for cables low to start recycling cables before the chests fill up. Incidentally I recommend using a constant combinator to set those levels - it beats manually setting the numbers on all the return inserters.
Would it be more efficient to import coal (and refine and crack the na ive heavy oil) to make plastic? The amount of coal you can fit on a rocket will get you more plastic than fits on a rocket.
You can only get 500 coal on a rocket, compared to 2000 plastic. You can also fit twice the amount of plastic on a platform compared to coal, so you're not gaining anything there either.
After unlocking coal synthesis would that be worth setting a satelite to help with plastic?
i would said import plastic from Gleba/Nauvis look way better, for just space platform its hard to build quickly enough on fulgora before medium asteroids fly hit you.
just build more recycle station, keep the best and toss the rest resource.
Wonder if we could get a mod to start on different planets. Also can't wait to see modding to add new planets
i think the electromagnetic plant passes through the holmium solution as indicated by the in/out arrows, so you can daisy chain multiple plants together without pipes
Hi, I don't get something with parameter in blueprint, when I select a building to set it to parameter 0, I don't see the menu with parameter... do you have any hint about it ? something to activate in the setting maybe ?
yeah it's a setting you have to enable. The settings menu should have a search function, try searching for parameter
I forgot, how do the elevated rails work with the lightning?
6:07 Holy shit, this is when I started noticing the background music.
sounds like interstellar BSO, neat!
Dude I got such small islands on Fulgora, I have nothing anywhere near this big!
Did they change the parametrise feature to now only show what the machine (in this case electromagnetic plant) is capable of crafting? Because that's what I'm now seeing in game.
Same here. It's definitely not there on default settings. You have to go to SETTINGS, then Interface Settings, then inside the box labeled "Interaction," there's a checkbox that's unchecked, "Show parameters in selection list." Check that box.
I wonder how many other cool things I never knew about because I figured settings were, you know, brightness and volume settings, not IN GAME FEATURES!?!?
I'm gonna guess that Wube figured it's just gonna confuse people, so make it an optional thing. If Nilaus didn't point this out to me via this video, I never would have known parameters even existed. This game is... It's fascinating.
12:10 feature already deprecated. It's now handled differently from what I can tell.
I'm in awe tbqh
Will you be making a new base in a book for space age?
Why does nilaus use storage chest with logistic filter instead of passive provider chest?
so extra stuff goes back to the chests
these blueprints are patreon?
What's your opinion on quality all the way through? That is, quality modules on miners, furnaces, assemblers, blah blah blah. It looks like it's impossible to make work without some awful filtered cars sort of build, especially for stuff like green circuits.
But that efficiency, it's tantalizing...
Until megabase quality is a bonus on finalized products I.e accumulators, eletro plants, solar panels, etc
@@warwicksulista8320 Right? I can just imagine some new player unlocks them, automates some, and puts them in their build - and obviously, it immediately clogs.
Honestly most of why it's such ass to deal with is that you can't filter chest slots. Trains, you can, and that makes it easy! Chests, you have to use inserter circuit conditions. Which means a combinator. Which means bad UPS. Terrible.
It's not as bad if you just use bots for everything, of course. It just feels like belts are horribly equipped to do anything with quality involved.
we all kwon why are you here :) 11:11 (interface settings>show paremeters in selection lists)
Thank you so much, i'm literally been searching for this for HOURS, thank you again 😭😭😭
Would you kindly compare it to Space Exploration? Which in my honest opinion became a bit grindy lately.
I may have missed it, but did you turn off cliffs?
He blew them up 🙂
Can you recycle low quality stuff to its components in the loop until you get legendary?
yes, but recycling doesnt give 100% of the materials back
@@boisq97 I believe that it gives only 25% back, which means that you're going to be losing ¾ of your uncommon tier to make the next level up, and so on. Probably not a good early game strategy?
I dont have the unsorted tab for the parameterization.. am I missing something??
nevermind, found under an other comments
You are awesome
Instead of setting the formula to one stack, you could also just limit the chest to one stack, right?
You have to request _some_ quantity. If you request 4G or something and limit to one stack, it will only work if the recipe only has one ingredient. Otherwise it will fill up with one ingredient and starve the rest. Unlike train wagons, you can't filter chest slots to limit it automatically.
Hell yeah
Hi Nilaus, quick question
If I've understood correctly, the videos you release every day on Factorio are condensed streams from nilaus ts, is that correct?
If so, do you plan to make a video every day until the end of this game? I'd like to be able to follow an entire game, but unfortunately I don't have several hours a day to watch a stream. I find your videos perfect for my needs.
I am playing 2 worlds simultaneously, but both started from the same starter base; one for RUclips and one for Twitch. It is not the same base or the same content, I play it several times in parallel to create the content.
Generally, Twitch is ahead and is for experimentation while RUclips is more focused on what I have learned while experimenting on Twitch. The RUclips series is a condensed version of a parallel playthrough as Twitch
What a dedication
@@NilausThanks !! Keep up the good job you are doing for the community
@@vooooooooooooo fr!! He's awesome
@@Nilaus Thanks for your reply. It will be a pleasure to follow your adventure. I used to watch a French streamer, but he does factorio 13 hours a day and I don't have time to watch so much content. You're going to allow me to discover factorio in a better way, I like that.
Anyone else saw the extra underground pipe doing nothing. 😅
You could mine coal in orbit around Fulgor.
You can't mine coal in space, you have to synthesize it from carbon and sulfur, which is unlocked by the advanced asteroid processing and rocket turret techs from Gleba.
when i poen electomagnetic plant i can choose no parameter, anyone knows why?
you need to check a box in settings>interface>interaction>show parameters in selection lists
why do you waste ice and solid fuel you can do ez energy with it you literaly have endless amounts from it :D
Is anyone doing a quality base? Any good circuit condition to avoid endless recycling so I do not burn my scrap stockpile too fast. I think recycling just to make room for other materials is acceptable. but I do not want to do it when there is no science pack/quality shop demand. I want to prioritize shipping rocket parts and heavy oil to other planets when they exceed their stockpile.
Where are you shipping heavy oil and why? I guess you might want flamethrower fuel on Gleba but why not ship light oil instead?
@ heavy is needed for shops and orbital shipping. Could have deadlock when no science research is in progress, and I would like to have flamethrower in my new cannon emplacement.
@ light needs cracking, cracking need water, water is not entirely free on fulgora. I already use cracking for extra batteries. Demand on heavy oil is unknown in future scaling. So I choose to ship heavy.
How many diffrent sicens pack are there now?
Space introduces five new packs so that should be 12 total, if I recall correctly. A far sight better than Space Exploration which has like 20+ new science packs.
@@AliceErishech ya 20 new that would be way to damn much tbh
My Fulgora was extremely unlucky. I was going for the no yellow or purple science achievement and it was my first planet, so there’s that.
But the location…
A 51 Million scrap deposit in a tiny island, just barely close enough to another tiny island to share logistics network but no power connection.
The big islands closeby are too far away for either, so no expanding to that till I can build on oil or at least put trains on oil.
Miserable. Power outages regularly because I don’t really have room for many capacitors, and almosr everything done at a snails pace by logistics bots.
But hey, 51 Million Scrap, am I right.
10/10 would rush Fulgora again.
I don't understand the purpose of making belt-bot hybrid builds. All the complexity of belts with all the throughput problems of bots.
Why not just put logi chests on every machine?
@@PremierSullivan what? belts are not complex.. and there is no throughput problems with bots .. the high quantity things go on belts (scrap + what comes out of it, some components) then the rest of the things are not in that big of quantity..
tldr - since bots have weaker throughput , make belt hybrids.
factorio players fall into the rabbit hole of efficiency... having everything perfect is slower way to progress and you will actually produce less because it takes more time
Rough self contained modules are easy to scope, and belts are inexpensive and convenient for passing resources internally. Having logistics bots handle the external plumbing means it starts working early, giving you time and resources to plan actual belt connections or a whole different build later. It could be the best strategy, it might not, but really it just comes down to whether it's fun for the person building it.
@@tukib_ I think it would be faster to do the hybridization the opposite way. Put logi chests on every machine and then put passive provider chest on main bus belts near the modules.
@@PremierSullivan For much higher throughput that sounds right yeah
I spent ages trying to set up Parameterization. Than I found the game has it turned off (why? who knows) so I turned it on (go to "settings" then "interface" then put tick against "show parameters in selection lists".... now I have access to menu items previously hidden...... Would have been good to know that Nilaus.
So then I followed the parameterize instruction at 14:00 but the blueprint does not show the Product prompt. Beats me.
I think its time to give up on Factorio.
It is vastly different from 1.0 (I played over 6000 hours ) and obviously not for the likes of me. I am not a programmer, I didn't get to go to LAN parties to learn the game nor do I have access to the developers. Its way, way too frustrating... the enjoyment has really gone out if it. It destroyed my blueprints and the mod's I used for trains don't work anymore. I have wasted days re-creating blueprints. The new train system is rubbish... it is not at all intuitive. Its just frustrating. It feels like work - it sure ain't an enjoyable anymore. I have struggled with this for long enough.
first
oof im late XD