Wheel Spacers Good or Bad? | Spacers Explained
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There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding and misconception regarding wheel spacers. So today I thought I'd try to clear a lot of that up.
The four main types of spacers:
Non Hub Centric Slip On
Hub Centric Slip On
Hub Centric Bolt On
Non Hub Centric Bolt On
Some specific wheel spacers that adapt the bolt pattern on your car to a different bolt pattern would be a wheel adapter and would follow the same principals as explained in this video.
Anyways, thanks for watching and I hope that helped clear some things up :)
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*Regarding the comments about the lugs have tapers on them so the wheel will be centered regardless of hub centric or not:*
Yes although the lugs do have tapers to center the wheel and or spacer on the hub, there is a much higher chance of it not being centered when not running a hub centric setup and this is where most the issues of spacers come from. Which is why I suggested to only get hub centric.
*For instance:*
A lot of people bolt on their wheel and hand tighten their lugs to maybe 15 ft/lbs of torque. Then they lower their car on the ground and torque it to spec. If the wheel doesn't have a hub diameter properly matched with the hub diameter on the car then there is a possibility that when lowering the car on the ground and the full weight of the car is applied to the wheel, that the wheel will move off center since the lugs are not fully torqued and are not holding the wheel 100% in place. Then when you go to torque the lugs, you will torque the wheels off center.
Make sense?
So by having it hub centric it eliminates that room for error. And considering the negligible price difference between hub centric spacers and non hub centric it's best to go with a hub centric setup
Thanks :)
Good video good info
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Also depends on if your vehicle uses a hub centric or lug centric hub design. Most vehicles I have seen are hub centric, but some are lug centric!
OffBeat Garage yes and people also tend to ignore the correct two stage tightening process and some of them even tighten the nuts/bolts in a circular manner instead of going 1324 or 142635.
awesome video. more people need to see this.
Need more vids like this so noobs can learn and not be noobs anymore. For future vids maybe talk about tire sizes and grip ratings, brake swaps for 240's, suspension tuning for drift,drag, or road racing..... blah blah blah
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Be quiet, noob.
Another great video. Love the descriptions with examples. Well spoken and put together. Thank you. Looking forward to the next one.
Hands down, this is the most informative spacer video I've ever seen. Also provides examples of people running them. Awesome.
thanks for putting this video together. it really helps illustrate how wheel spacers are intended to be used and what buyers should be looking for when shopping for spacers.
Nice explanation of topic with worthy arguments. Buddy you are real EDUCATOR and TECHNICAL Person. Keep rolling.
Fantastic video man. I need to get spacers so I can run my winter wheels. I really appreciate you taking the time to talk through this and helping me understand.
Wow dude. this video was actually really good, I've just started to look for spacers and now I actually know what to look for. Thanks!
Dude..! Thank you..! literally one of the best spacer info vids on RUclips.
I legit didn't want this video to end. Very well informed, thanks for the lesson.
Huge fan man I've been subbed since u were taking ur missile 240 (le drift car) to adams and u were on those 4 lug mesh wheels. I love it when you make these informative ass videos that just have shitloads of stuff to learn in them. Your probly the most knowledgable person about drift cars and jdm stuff that I know of man. Keep the up the good content 👍
Well spoken, smart, detailed. Thanks for answering so many questions.
This video should be referenced in every single car forum.. I'm so sick of answering dumb questions that seem like common sense. great video bro.. keep em comin.
You got me subscribed with this one video brother ! I love that calmness.
Lot's of great info on spacers! Thanks man!
Appreciate that table of contents man, I be wishing most videos have it, thanks man
This is exactly the information I was searching for - thanks so much!
Yoo you gotta do more of these videos! I'm pretty clueless about this stuff and you actually explain things pretty good ! Pretty sure the things I know now are because of yoir videos lol
also.. dat end scene doeeeeeeee
Hahaa thanks man! I'll definitely do more :)
Hahaha shhhhh
Been here for a hot minute keep it up! Can't wait to see the drift vids this season!
When I installed my 16x8 TE37s on my e30 I run a 5mm, non-hub centric, spacer but it does have the same center bore as my hub. Enough of the hub sticks out past the spacer where I can use my hub centric rings to center my wheels. I did lots of research before purchasing anything. Thanks for this video, I'm sure it'll help a lot of people 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome video dude, it really helped me out on to grasping an idea on how spacers work. Keep it up!
Great info young man. Love the science behind it all
Man I appreciate the info on wheel spacers, I'm gonna install some bolt on spacers and I was wondering about that. Thanks man. 🖒
Excellent video- thorough and informative. Thank you for making this!
most informative channel! glad you took a break and came back
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Excellent video. Very informative. Also, is 1 studd really better than 2?
wow that is one of the best vids i have seen on adapters/spacers ,,maybe the best THANKS !
Dude this was sooo helpful!! Perfectly done my friend! Thanks for the help.
any brands you would or would not recommend?
AWESOME VIDEO!!! learned so much in this 16 mins
Good to see you doin videos again! Greetings from Poland ;) Keep doing good work there :D
best detailed explanation on youtube. keep it up. I have a c33 with a s13 sub frame. I'm doing the suspension works first.
If you tighten in a star pattern gradually you eliminate the need for hubcentric rings. The star patter applies even pressure and will gradually center the wheel
Very informative and visually descriptive with the inserted shots. Great video! Thanks!
Lots of great info...really helped me with my questions and gave concise and clear direction...nice job kid.
Subscribed. Love your videos!
awesome Bro! bout to do my suzuki forenza, got lowering spring and now will totally spot on my wheels, thankz my man.
Two thumbs up for the extremely well explained video. Your explanations are even better than most resellers of these products can say.
Edit: make one (if you didn't already do) about bolt pattern change. For example i am trying to go from a 4x108 hub to a 4x100 or 4x114.3
Best video I have ever seen on wheel spacers, thank you.
Straight and to the point. All angles covered. Great video dude!
+Greg Moulton Thanks :)
best spacer vid i seen so far. im watching a shitload b4 i put em on my 05 titan and this is by far best vids presented very well , thanks
Very good and informative video. I needed this knowledge and it was here in a great format.
Wicked video, I finally have the definitive answer to the wheel spacer dilemma!
This is a really awesome video! I learned something new today. Thank you
The best explanation I have come across on you tube
thanks for the info i was just trying to understand this stuff. my s2000 has a set of Rays g07WT 17x9 63 offset, so some 20mm spacers should have it looking very clean and closer to the fender. luckily now i understand spacers. thanks keep up the quality vids.
Hello yeah, love it. Straight to the point and no BS 😜👍🏻 good vid Adel
Nice explanation man! Very clear and concise :)
thanks for this video, I had a small idea about the best spacers to use but I learnt a lot from this.
great video answered all of the questions i had about wheel spacers
This is a really good video.. especially you putting an index at the beginning of the video... nicely done.
Nice video dude love the in depth information!
That ending: "I won't let them hurt you ever again"
Very comprehensive video. Thanks alot.
They get a bad rep, because people just want to stance their car with it, and like you explained could be dangerous when not thinking it through.
Great video, really well informed and backed by experience.
Awesome class man!! Learned a lot!
Great video explained very well had great camera work
Thanks for showing the off sets on the wheels . That made a lot of seance on the spacing Good video !!
A well made video man! To the point with lots of necessary detail. Consider teaching others. . .
Amazing video, definitely surpassed my expectations.
you definitly good at explaning stuff hands down, im about to buy 2km of spacers XD
Good informative video 👍🏻 thanks, man. Greetings from southern Sweden
Nicely done; clear explanation and graphics!!
Wish I knew of hub-centric 30 yrs ago; I mounted some non-stock wheels w. new tires on an E23 BMW. Wheels had same lug circle dia, but they shook - sometimes a little, sometimes a lot. Had the tire shop re-balance 2x, but never fixed it. They never mentioned hub diameter...
The car had tapered lug bolts; even if they 'should' center the wheel it wasn't good enough to be smooth at speed. I always torqued with 2-step or 3-step process.
Another spacer benefit is similar to using centering rings. Wheel mfrs can make far fewer variants, which "should" make them less expensive and *might* make it easier to find a replacement for a damaged wheel.
This was super super informative, thank you!!!
Great video and info man. I'm bookmarking this so I can link it whenever anyone asks for an explanation :-D
love the start of the vid 😂 but still missing the classic off beat intro :(
Nice video well explained it answered my questions and worries.
I. Learned. A lot. Thank You! My car that i just bought has spacers on it now, and I was trying to figure out what if anything was wrong with it. At least I know what to look for now!
Great information! …. This information was priceless and spot on for anyone interested in running spacers.
thank you for this video sir!! love your channel!
this was so helpful. great vid
As a mechanical Engineer, I appreciate that you shared such great information. Good on you for actually doing research and making sure you understood it rather than taking an internet mechanics word. Also was really happy when you mentioned how the clamping friction is how the load is transferred, this let me know that you really did research and found good sources, as this is how I learned it in class and it makes sense.
You are quite intelligent (have watched since the first drift car was bought), and you have always made that obvious with how you choose to approach things.
blindassassin111 the funny thing is clamping friction is the same argument used for why you can get away with not being hubcentric. Glad he recommended remaining hubcentric anyway.
But clamping friction doesn't center wheels so that is a bad argument. Being hubcentric accounts for centering and clamping friction accounts for load, both are needed. On the wheel centers I designed for a small race car, the wheel is hubcentric and doesn't use tapered lugs to aid the centering, but being hubcentric is a necessity for safe mounting.
blindassassin111 I agree with you. Just noting people use that as an argument for hub centric not being necessary....particularly with tapered lug nuts. Those people, the vast majority of cases, are wrong. There are exceptions. But whatever. No reason not to be hubcentric, other than a few specific type wheel exceptions.
I legit just ordered spacers right before this video went up that's bananas
Love spacers with hubs. Well explained.
one of the best / informed videos ive seen.
Dropped a like.
Great video.very informative, keep it up. Sick ride too.
Awesome video. Totally clear and useful info. Thanks!
Subbed great detail of explanation. Looked like there were a few takes but well studied or just know. 🤙🏾
great information, thanks for creating the video!
Excellent visual info! Thanks!
I love love love your video. Thank you so much. I will be ordering a set for my Mustang.
Holy crap this video was detailed asf. I was lost at first but once I got to the end I really understood it.
very informational, guess i got some calculations ahead of me, gonna figure out what spacers i should run if any since my driftcar will be fitted with either 15 or 16 inch burners, or on a trackday with 17 inch semislicks in the rear, so i'll need to dig up some offset numbers.
wow you absolutely nailed it! 👌💯👍 the only suggestion I'd add is the installation process. poor installation can lead to failure (i.e. you should always re-torque after the initial 30km drive, and what material the spacers need to be like billet etc.)
Killer video. Nicely done.
Very informative video, thank you.
this man knows his shit....SUBSCRIBED!!!...good vid bro. learned alot just from the camber video.
Awesome. This is the content why I'm subbed, very clear and informational.
Just some questions you recommend same moment for spacer(Nm) and wheel or a bit higher moment for spacer?
Also are those calipers painted matte black?
Thank you for great informative video.
I have 38 mm hub spacers for the rear, but the hubs are slightly to small or thick spacers.
I sanded down about 1mm of the inner hub to make it fit my hub perfectly.
Also my factory offset +40, however with the new rims and hub spacers it should be -18
Great Video! Very informative.
this is a great video on this subject!
Great video, looking forward to the video
Thanks for dropping the knowledge
you are a great person thanks for the effort that went in this video.
Thank you :)
omg finally someone who knows that spacers NEED to be HUBCENTRIC great video bro good info
Diogo DaCunha I run non hubcentric spacers on my winter tires. They're fine if you know how to mount them.
Simon G t
Don't need hubcentric spacers if your car or truck has a lugcentric wheel/hub design ;)
fuckcentric lug butts
Merling Stoss show me a oem car that's not hubcentric wheels.
really good video dude!!!!
awsome video, realy looking forward to your turbo conversion (or whatever you are gonna do) video's :)
Just subbed.
I like the thorough explanations and the TOC timestamps. I learned quite a bit. Nice!
Your dream wheels example kept me tuned. Mandrus does not offer what I want in the offset I need. I thought jumping from 32 to 42 would be too much, but it seems to be minor compared to what most folks do. Also, I am not racing. I just want to improve the handling by increasing to an 18" wheel.
Which wheel spacer brand would you recommend, of course, heeding your advice about hub centric and bolt on design for a secure fitment?
Thank you.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME STAMPS, SUBBED
I really hate hub spacers but you made a good video to show the proper use of them as I have seen too many fail and hope these people will see this educational example of how to use them ! Good work :-)
Good vid man keep it up.
that was a lot of good information thanks man