Colour me impressed, an interviewer who actually listened, asked follow-up questions, and didn't constantly interrupt a speaker coming from this end of the issue. Much respect from Norway.
We in Hungary have been getting a lot of very bad press over the migration issue in recent years. I think Douglas's comment about how lucky we are to live in Europe and therefore how guilty we feel about that is extremely pertinent to Hungary's situation. We have not been so lucky here and we know it and we still bear the scars. Please, don't ask us to continue paying for the world's problems. We've been doing it for 500 years.
Well done to this young lady Interviewer, who conducted herself impeccably. She actually listened, didn't interrupt and asked valuable questions to Douglas. BBC, Sky News, CNN take note. This is how a journalist conducts a unbiased interview who doesn't shy away from addressing hard questions. Douglas, as always a intellectual heavyweight and light bringer in what is a Europe engulfed in darkness.
One man, able and eloquent, being asked to answer questions that should already have been addressed and answered by 650 UK Parliamentarians. Tragic. Decades on and the UK cannot work out a figure for net migration or control who crosses its borders - how can Mr Murray do it on his own ? What responsible parent invites millions of guests to their daughter's birthday party when there are only 10 chairs, 10 table settings and 10 slices of cake ?
Stop kissing his arse, the question was addressed and answered in 2003 under labour and in 2010 by the Conservatives/liberals, the problem was the EU law preventing the UK from desciding who, where from and how many migrants could enter Britain. Not long to wait now, 30th March quotas can begin. Now 330,000, next year could be 30,000 like Blair's regime wanted, that gives the UK a little more wriggle room for allowing refugees in (opposite to what Qatar,Saudi,UAE,Dubai have done)
Utter bullshit! It was Blair who opened in the floodgates and saw immigration jump TEN FOLD during his fucking 'reign' !! He also refused to place "Transition Measures", in 2004 for the new succession countries like Poland, ffs!!
@English teacher listen bro, I am not telling that criticizing Islam ,he is doing good.Douglas Murray doesn't run after fame.But he is against Muslim immigration and he criticizes Muslims .That is not bad,that is necessary..He is doing that what is necessary and always will.A true patriot like him will always fight.
Respect to a very professional interviewer, with intelligent questions, then allowed the guest to answer them fully before picking up on points of question, Douglas as always is some one we should all aspire to be a wonderful human being
I remember Douglas Murray on Question Time a couple of years ago. Davina McCall was on the panel too and all the way through the show, she looked at him with an expression of pitiable contempt. This is what happens when you don't listen to a person's arguments, you just listen to the word 'Islam' and immediately your defenses shoot up.
Our politicians have sold us down the river they have let the UN dictate how many and for how long we have to have them and the madding thing is I don't remember anyone of us being asked about it
Last year I earned £57k which was taxed... I live in Peterborough and I have waited 22 months to get a dentist... I also go to a doctors in which the staff spoke to me in Polish and when I signed in, I had to transfer the language to English which was third on the list with Romanian and Urdu flags above. I'm 32 and contributed a lot of tax and its heart braking other British people are oblivious or wilfully ignorant on what the future will be like in most cities in 15 years to come
Before I retired my salary was about £30k (2014) I paid £21.50 per month for private dental care. That covered regular check ups and regular hygienist visits and emergencies also discounts on fillings, crowns and bridges and etc excluding implants. No waiting more than 1 or 2 days for an appointment, no waiting for an emergency visit. It was open Monday to Friday 8.30am to 7pm. Out of hours contact details. Mind you this was in London. You should look at a private dental plan.
@@abuantar2801 No obviously, only the the ones that offer nothing, that come here in their droves for free healthcare, benefits and housing. And i am sure that in your country of origin you can't earn £120k a year, or you would probably still be there. So wind your neck in and show a little gratitude to the nation that gave you the opportunity for a better life. FACT!!
@@abuantar2801 No it's about earning money in an ENGLISH speaking country when you are a BRITISH born NATIVE! with a long bloodline stretching back in this country of many generations and then you get treated like a 2nd class citizen. You're an obnoxious fool if you think your contribution somehow makes up for cost of allowing so many people into our country that don't even work for this joke of a multicultural utopian fantasy. Remember this is our homeland and not yours, your attitude is not British because you clearly don't honour our ancestors and everything they built and sacrificed to make this nation possible.
@@abuantar2801 I care about my culture, which you clearly do not. If you weren't such an ignorant fool, you would know people that live in council flats may have been born into a class and area, of which they have no choice to live. Yet regardless, I would rather have them here, white or not over someone like you. Totally disgusting. So why don't you go to another country and earn the same money if you can? why? because British people made this country a success and you want to leach of it - you can't say the same for the country you're from, I have no doubt. So you just leave your people behind, for money. Pathetic and honourless
Well stated Sir, Welfare States simply cannot import welfare recipients and ask their hard working, law abiding tax payers to foot the bill. It has nothing to do with racism or xenophobia, it is a very clear and obvious socioeconomic oxymoron.
How does your welfare state benefits from the exploitation of other countries and frankly keep them poor! Nd wen they decide to cut ties u attack them with ur army?
Douglas has an in-depth understanding of the migrant situation in Europe, and he speaks so much sense. The nations in western Europe have done a catastrophic job by making their national borders so porous. It is important to first create a conducive environment for the migrant and refugees to integrate into the the social structure of the inviting country, where Europe has failed misra. Hungary and Poland are doing great by standing up to their national ideals and delivering on the promise they made to their citizens.
Well done to the interviewer, who despite being young, behaved impeccably as one would expect of a serious interviewer: polite, respectful, cordial in manner, allowing the interviewee to answer without interruption, asking appropriate questions which weren't loaded with disdain.
Jordan, Egypt and these countriers are taking a one off large influx of people of the same religion/race as them. Europe are taking a continual mass of people from extremely different religions/cultures of their own year after year for decades.
I think that Douglas Murray is too generous when it comes to the realisation of the problem allowing so many people from the Middle East and North Africa into Europe. Any simple person with foresight could see the problems. The fact that they have manifested should not be a surprise. It simply illustrates the level of poor government dominating agenda of countries like those in Western Europe. Whereas, the Poles and Hungarians etc in the East got it right. Safe in Warsaw, bomb blast in Paris at Christmas. Notice anything different? They are the consequences of policy decisions made in Europe, one with foresight, one ignorant, without.
The migration mass migration to the EU is not just by accident rather by design , the EU is in project population replacement , any doubts just look at the Morrocco convention thought up by the U.N. and EU which gets rid of the asylum concept and now replaces it with the idea that All MIGRANTS have the right to migrate where and when possible to anywhere , so what does this tell you and where will they be coming from and going to .
Exactly, it has nothing to do with luck, that should be obvious. It is true that I did not choose the society i was born into, but my parents did, they worked their whole lives to make it better for me, and it was thus a conscious choice on their part...
I wouldn't be so inclined to attempt to steal the credit of your ancestor's achievements. Especially seeing as the use of the term ancestors here is very loose. You do not know who your ancestors were. They could have mainly been on the opposing side of that fight for all you know.
You all seem to be missing the point. The development of European culture was not luck, but the fact that you yourself happened to be born into it is. You did nothing to earn your birth, just as someone born amidst violence in the Congo did nothing to deserve being born there.
@@billyb7119 I disagree strongly. I did not "earn my birth" but my parents did. I am a deliberate product/result of my parents and their ancestors, we all are. You could not have been born to my parents, as you are not of their DNA. Humans are not some spiritual entities floating in space waiting to be born to random people in random places, we are all the deliberate results of our parents.. People living in violent places chose to be part of a violent culture if they are not actively working to stop the violence, their children are deliberately born into that culture...
@@cryptogirl1370 You're still missing the point. I'm not saying that nobody worked for the culture that they have. I'm saying that YOU personally are lucky that you were born to people within that culture. You had no control over the circumstances of your birth. You obviously do agree with what I'm saying, because you acknowledge that you did not "earn your birth", which is self evident.
This host was far far more tolerable then the host of the actual presentation. Shes given him time to discuss his point, barely interruped him and she even listened to what he said.
All this makes perfect sense to me citizens come first. If after the citizens are taken care of there is a little left over fine let in couple thousand. Don't throw the doors open an let 1 an all come in that is crazy. They allowed their country to be destroyed now your leaders are letting them destroy yours.
A great interviewer - and a great interviewer too! Douglas Murray is always interesting but I enjoyed the way this interview was conducted, with Nelufar getting to the meat of the topic and allowing her guests views to be expanded upon. Obviously immigration is a huge topic, and as Douglas Murray says in the video, we have to look at it from a perspective of what's sustainable, too...
One basic, minimal requirement for coming to a Western country MUST be an ABSOLUTE tolerance for blasphemy. No ifs or buts. If you are unwilling or unable to muster up this requirement you are unfit to live in the West.
A very well moderated conversation! I’d love to see the uncut version if possible? Either way, well edited, and always good to hear from Douglas Murray!
What seems to astonish Nelufar Hedayat is that EUROPEANS should actually DARE to think that we should have the right to decide who enters our space. At this time, our Political Class (through political and religious incompetence) has admitted into OUR ancestral space, the vile quasi-religion of ISLAM. Ask yourself whether increasing ISLAM is likely to lead to a better, or worse, 'society'? Then there is the problem of ISLAMIC dualism, through which the World is divided between the HOUSE OF ISLAM and the HOUSE OF WAR. To Muslims, only Muslims matter: the KUFAR do not.
Mark Dyer - Yes, it's remarkable, isn't it? I've lived and worked in several countries in Southeast Asia and the Gulf. In all of the countries where I've worked they have strict controls on who can enter and how long they can stay. They even restrict foreigners from owning property in their nations. It's also notable that none of the Gulf Arab nations have offered their co-religionist migrants refuge in their countries. And yet if any European nation dares to articulate concern about who crosses their borders, they are automatically denounced as being racist or Islamophobic.
@@wiseonwords On BBC Radio 4 just a half hour ago, there was a programme about the Gulf States. The Arab citizen was asked, "How do you get to be a citizen of one of the Gulf States?" The reply was very enlightening! "By being born into a family who are already citizens!" There you have it, in a nutshell! Were we to apply that principle in the UK, citing ISLAMIC purity precedent, then many people within the UK would not be able to 'reach' far back into the 20th Century, in order to qualify. Very interesting! Odd how the ARAB states maintain their 'purity', whilst sullying the purity of other cultures. Could this be ISLAMIC ENTITLEMENT at work?
This skilful interviewer was a good antidote to the appalling moderator on the Doha Debate in which Murray participated: the individual in question didn’t understand her role, and was utterly biased: interrupting Murray, spewing out patent untruths, and generally acting as though she was on part of the opposing team. If Doha Debates want some credibility they need to replace her quickly, possibly with this woman.
For his book, he actually travelled to many of the places where immigration reaches Europe and also the places where immigration has already transformed life in Europe. I wonder how many of those who criticise him for his "right-wing" views have done that themselves!
Being born in a good country is not a matter of luck. It isn't luck that made them good countries. My grandparents made a conscious decision to move to Australia when it was NOT a rich country. It wasn't the toss of a coin that made the choice for them and they were among those who made Australia rich, in spite of Australia's arid climate and poor, leached soils. They are entitled to have the fruits of their labours go to their own descendants. Modern immigrants are Johnny-Come-Latelies. They would sponge off the earlier waves of migrants who put in the blood sweat and tears to pay for the roads, ports, schools etc..
I share the values of my ancestors who made Australia a great place to live. That I didn't choose my parents doesn't make it a matter of luck that I am here. My grandparents made a conscious choice to come here, and they didn't come to rich nation to get a slice of the wealth that another culture created. They came to an outpost of their own country. The first British settlers didn't sail into an established society with infrastructure and institutions in place. They started from scratch. I am proud of my inheritance and I am grateful for the white Australia policy which ensured that our lawmakers were NOT chosen by people who believed in caste, or polygamy or FGM or Sharia law or Karma.
@@Pallomides What a strange think to say, everyone is proud of their ancestors and we build on what they created to make it even better. He did not do anything to be born in a great and rich country, but is parents and their parents did. They worked hard to ensure that their children would be born into a great and functioning society, and he will do the same for his children. Luck has nothing to do with it, it is hard work, community and liberty that makes great countries, i.e. the choices of free individuals and community spirit... If you are from a poor country, think to yourself "What can I do to make this country great?, What can I do to create a better future for my children?" - If you do this, chances are your children will be born in a country that is in a better state than when you were born, and that will be because of your actions, no because of luck... Again, nothing to do with luck, it is all about choices and willingness to secure the next generation...
@@chriswatson1698 _"That I didn't choose my parents doesn't make it a matter of luck that I am here."_ That's exactly what makes it luck. It was chosen for you. That you were not born disabled is a matter of luck. That you were not born 200 years ago is a matter of luck. Everything about your birth is a matter of luck. _"My grandparents made a conscious choice to come here"_ So... you didn't? Sounds like you were pretty lucky.
7:10 Douglas describes the feeling of "being lucky" to be born in a developed country...and I agree that one's own place of birth is down to personal good fortune if ione is born to a good family in a developed nation, but that is not the same as saying that it is mere good fortune that developed countries have high standards of living through mere chance. Are less developed countries "unlucky"? The high standards of living in devloped Western nations are associated with european values (eg. rules of law, freedom of speech, free elections with representative government, keeping religion as far away from power as possible etc) and these values have been forged through years of turmoil in european history. A modern european should feel no guilt about their ancestors having developed these values, often hard fought for. One might feel lucky that we didn't have to do the fighting ourselves, but no guilt is required. Less developed nations can simply start by following the road map to developed nation statehood which european history teaches. Remove religion from politics, permit free expression and debate, hold free elections, etc... If migrants from less developed nations, who have no awareness of the path to european developed nation statehood, come to Europe and bring their values with them then conflict arises when they try and retain their own values. There is a cultural clash that threatens the developed state by introducing religion into postions of power, by trying to overturn the rule of law etc... this is why diversity of cultural opinions over vital european values can NEVER be a strength.
@@willk1756 thanks, I have been there before. He and Daniel Hannan's book about freedom and why it mattters informed me, or reminded me and hleped articulate what I have felt for many years. I just want some elected politcians to start saying this stuff! They would have somuch support from the people of the UK if they did.
You have to remember that we went through the same problems but in an earlier age so we have suffered in the past and came through it without help from other countries. So the people in the third world have now the chance to do in their country what we did in ours and work for a better future. If your young people leave then what chance has their country to improve and become somewhere to stay rather than leave.
Excellent interviewee, as always - Douglas Murray. I am reminded of the occasion when the late Christopher Hitchens who related a story where someone confronting an Islamist refugee about rights of residence made a chilling reply by saying "What makes you think this is your country?" If the world is one, in the ultimate analysis there is no answer, but for the time being we have countries with borders.
This woman should clearly have been the moderator in the main debate. She effortlessly drew out the witty and erudite best of Douglas Murray - and not by any means thru soft-ball questions. Fakhri in the min (non-) debate just wanted to impose her own highly partisan view, and frequently talked over both contributors and audience comments - thereby absolutely eliminating ANY possibility of achieving the stated aim of consensus or convergence from the various contributions.
Maybe we were lucky to be born in the West, but our ancestors worked hard to create this civilization and its our responsibility to preserve it and not piss it all away out of some misplaced guilt for being successful.
Douglas should be a national and international adviser, to bring sanity to a world where tolerance has been pushed into apathy. This entire migrant issue is asymmetrical, unrealistic and sold in delusion. Our cultures, education, beliefs and standards were never similar.
There is no luck involved about being born in Europe. People actually ran away from Europe because it became too crowded and starvation was common in northern Europe just 100 years ago. Without modern fertilizers we would have to ask Russia for food.
Bravo DOHA. This interview puts the BBC to shame. DM was asked questions and actually given and space to respond. Furthermore, the questions were open and relevant.
This interview, the way it was conducted, has earned this channel a sub... And Douglas the ever eloquent would agree that this was too short... Encore...???
Migration is not the main reason why the people are voting for national socialistic parties. Brussels centralisim and the Euro currency are the main reason why this is happening.
LEBANON TURKEY AND JORDAN DO NOT ACCEPT REFUGEES NOT EVEN FROM ARAB AND MUSLIM BACKGROUND AND DIFINITELY NOT OTHER RACES AND RELIGIONS.WHAT DID THE REPORTER GET HER MYTH FROM?????!
Here's a thought experiment. Suppose the UK had a civil war and huge numbers of British asylum / economic migrants poured into say Egypt for example. Wouldn't the good people of Egypt not be justified in being a little disgruntled ?
3:50 Brexit was WAY more about Eastern European migration into Britain than war refugees from Syria. This woman's mind has been fully distracted by skin color like so many in her generation.
Question of "luck" does not apply to people born in EU by EU parents. Something obvious and normal is not "lucky" Lucky are people who were supposed to be born in other places but they were born in EU. Word " Lucky" leads to word "privileged". So called "privilege" is worked out by my ancestors and I am working for it too. I have to work for it so it is my "payment" not privilege. p.s. good reporter. Asking questions and not disturbing answer.
Colour me impressed, an interviewer who actually listened, asked follow-up questions, and didn't constantly interrupt a speaker coming from this end of the issue. Much respect from Norway.
I was thinking the same.
She gave thought-provoking counter questions without a hint of personal bias. Refreshing in today's media.
@@bnanaaasbrown9529 I think you fancy her
Can't use the word colour, it's verbotten.
I thought they'd turned her microphone off when I didn't hear an iterruption as soon as Douglas started speaking. She'd never get a job with the BBC.
We in Hungary have been getting a lot of very bad press over the migration issue in recent years. I think Douglas's comment about how lucky we are to live in Europe and therefore how guilty we feel about that is extremely pertinent to Hungary's situation. We have not been so lucky here and we know it and we still bear the scars. Please, don't ask us to continue paying for the world's problems. We've been doing it for 500 years.
Well done to this young lady Interviewer, who conducted herself impeccably. She actually listened, didn't interrupt and asked valuable questions to Douglas. BBC, Sky News, CNN take note. This is how a journalist conducts a unbiased interview who doesn't shy away from addressing hard questions. Douglas, as always a intellectual heavyweight and light bringer in what is a Europe engulfed in darkness.
Douglas is like fine wine in the truest sense. He's really becoming a clear reasoned voice.
One man, able and eloquent, being asked to answer questions that should already have been addressed and answered by 650 UK Parliamentarians. Tragic. Decades on and the UK cannot work out a figure for net migration or control who crosses its borders - how can Mr Murray do it on his own ? What responsible parent invites millions of guests to their daughter's birthday party when there are only 10 chairs, 10 table settings and 10 slices of cake ?
Stop kissing his arse, the question was addressed and answered in 2003 under labour and in 2010 by the Conservatives/liberals, the problem was the EU law preventing the UK from desciding who, where from and how many migrants could enter Britain. Not long to wait now, 30th March quotas can begin.
Now 330,000, next year could be 30,000 like Blair's regime wanted, that gives the UK a little more wriggle room for allowing refugees in (opposite to what Qatar,Saudi,UAE,Dubai have done)
Utter bullshit! It was Blair who opened in the floodgates and saw immigration jump TEN FOLD during his fucking 'reign' !! He also refused to place "Transition Measures", in 2004 for the new succession countries like Poland, ffs!!
Immigrants are net contributors to the UK economy i.e. when they arrive, they not only bake their own cake, they share it around.
Bullshit! 90%+ of immigrants take more in benefits than they contribute......the UCL study of 20 years of ALL immigration showed that, ffs!!
@English teacher listen bro, I am not telling that criticizing Islam ,he is doing good.Douglas Murray doesn't run after fame.But he is against Muslim immigration and he criticizes Muslims .That is not bad,that is necessary..He is doing that what is necessary and always will.A true patriot like him will always fight.
Respect to a very professional interviewer, with intelligent questions, then allowed the guest to answer them fully before picking up on points of question, Douglas as always is some one we should all aspire to be a wonderful human being
Refreshing, isn't it?!
She almost fell in love when he mentioned One Direction lol
She did a very good job.
Just like the rest of us. No way to compete with that intellect.
She's being professional but she's seething with anger inside.
I remember Douglas Murray on Question Time a couple of years ago. Davina McCall was on the panel too and all the way through the show, she looked at him with an expression of pitiable contempt. This is what happens when you don't listen to a person's arguments, you just listen to the word 'Islam' and immediately your defenses shoot up.
How did you like this interview?
Who the f*ck is Davina McCall?
No country has an OBLIGATION to take in EVEN ONE refugee. Start the discussion there. Then decide how many you WANT to take in.
Our politicians have sold us down the river they have let the UN dictate how many and for how long we have to have them and the madding thing is I don't remember anyone of us being asked about it
At least not before rich muslim countries do the same. We lack internationalism. They shouldn't be able to get away with no taking a single one.
I absolutely adore Douglas Murray. He always seems to be able to articulate what I am thinking.
Last year I earned £57k which was taxed... I live in Peterborough and I have waited 22 months to get a dentist... I also go to a doctors in which the staff spoke to me in Polish and when I signed in, I had to transfer the language to English which was third on the list with Romanian and Urdu flags above. I'm 32 and contributed a lot of tax and its heart braking other British people are oblivious or wilfully ignorant on what the future will be like in most cities in 15 years to come
Before I retired my salary was about £30k (2014) I paid £21.50 per month for private dental care. That covered regular check ups and regular hygienist visits and emergencies also discounts on fillings, crowns and bridges and etc excluding implants. No waiting more than 1 or 2 days for an appointment, no waiting for an emergency visit. It was open Monday to Friday 8.30am to 7pm. Out of hours contact details. Mind you this was in London. You should look at a private dental plan.
@@abuantar2801 No obviously, only the the ones that offer nothing, that come here in their droves for free healthcare, benefits and housing. And i am sure that in your country of origin you can't earn £120k a year, or you would probably still be there. So wind your neck in and show a little gratitude to the nation that gave you the opportunity for a better life. FACT!!
@MsRedLady absolutely not. I am just following the authors logic who's trying to blame the weakest for his failures.
@@abuantar2801 No it's about earning money in an ENGLISH speaking country when you are a BRITISH born NATIVE! with a long bloodline stretching back in this country of many generations and then you get treated like a 2nd class citizen. You're an obnoxious fool if you think your contribution somehow makes up for cost of allowing so many people into our country that don't even work for this joke of a multicultural utopian fantasy.
Remember this is our homeland and not yours, your attitude is not British because you clearly don't honour our ancestors and everything they built and sacrificed to make this nation possible.
@@abuantar2801 I care about my culture, which you clearly do not. If you weren't such an ignorant fool, you would know people that live in council flats may have been born into a class and area, of which they have no choice to live. Yet regardless, I would rather have them here, white or not over someone like you. Totally disgusting. So why don't you go to another country and earn the same money if you can? why? because British people made this country a success and you want to leach of it - you can't say the same for the country you're from, I have no doubt. So you just leave your people behind, for money. Pathetic and honourless
Wonderful Douglas Murray. A truly great man. I wish he was prime minister of the UK.
He knows that being a politician is impossible. He couldn't say 90% of what he says.
Never considered it, but you are right! I would definitely vote for him also.
Me too Carol Wolf, I would run along side him in that case 😊
One of Douglas Murray's clearest most thorough cases for his position. I respect it.
Well stated Sir, Welfare States simply cannot import welfare recipients and ask their hard working, law abiding tax payers to foot the bill.
It has nothing to do with racism or xenophobia, it is a very clear and obvious socioeconomic oxymoron.
How does your welfare state benefits from the exploitation of other countries and frankly keep them poor! Nd wen they decide to cut ties u attack them with ur army?
I am pleasantly surprised: for once the journalist is exceptionally good - particularly impressive for someone her age! Congratulations!
She's 31 ! She looks about 19 though :)
@Daffy B I think you might be projecting your own insecurities.
Oh Douglas. Brilliant as always
I could listen to this guy forever!
Not With the quality of audio in this video
Douglas has an in-depth understanding of the migrant situation in Europe, and he speaks so much sense. The nations in western Europe have done a catastrophic job by making their national borders so porous. It is important to first create a conducive environment for the migrant and refugees to integrate into the the social structure of the inviting country, where Europe has failed misra. Hungary and Poland are doing great by standing up to their national ideals and delivering on the promise they made to their citizens.
Excellent interview. Always get a slice of humour from Douglas as well.
Humour? Of course, his Dad was Scottish lol
Well done to the interviewer, who despite being young, behaved impeccably as one would expect of a serious interviewer: polite, respectful, cordial in manner, allowing the interviewee to answer without interruption, asking appropriate questions which weren't loaded with disdain.
If only England would have listened to Enoch Powell.
Jordan, Egypt and these countriers are taking a one off large influx of people of the same religion/race as them. Europe are taking a continual mass of people from extremely different religions/cultures of their own year after year for decades.
I think that Douglas Murray is too generous when it comes to the realisation of the problem allowing so many people from the Middle East and North Africa into Europe. Any simple person with foresight could see the problems. The fact that they have manifested should not be a surprise. It simply illustrates the level of poor government dominating agenda of countries like those in Western Europe. Whereas, the Poles and Hungarians etc in the East got it right. Safe in Warsaw, bomb blast in Paris at Christmas. Notice anything different? They are the consequences of policy decisions made in Europe, one with foresight, one ignorant, without.
The migration mass migration to the EU is not just by accident rather by design , the EU is in project population replacement , any doubts just look at the Morrocco convention thought up by the U.N. and EU which gets rid of the asylum concept and now replaces it with the idea that All MIGRANTS have the right to migrate where and when possible to anywhere , so what does this tell you and where will they be coming from and going to .
We in the West are "lucky" because our ancestors fought to achieve liberal republics. Others are "unlucky" because their ancestors did not.
Exactly, it has nothing to do with luck, that should be obvious. It is true that I did not choose the society i was born into, but my parents did, they worked their whole lives to make it better for me, and it was thus a conscious choice on their part...
I wouldn't be so inclined to attempt to steal the credit of your ancestor's achievements. Especially seeing as the use of the term ancestors here is very loose. You do not know who your ancestors were. They could have mainly been on the opposing side of that fight for all you know.
You all seem to be missing the point. The development of European culture was not luck, but the fact that you yourself happened to be born into it is. You did nothing to earn your birth, just as someone born amidst violence in the Congo did nothing to deserve being born there.
@@billyb7119 I disagree strongly. I did not "earn my birth" but my parents did. I am a deliberate product/result of my parents and their ancestors, we all are. You could not have been born to my parents, as you are not of their DNA. Humans are not some spiritual entities floating in space waiting to be born to random people in random places, we are all the deliberate results of our parents.. People living in violent places chose to be part of a violent culture if they are not actively working to stop the violence, their children are deliberately born into that culture...
@@cryptogirl1370 You're still missing the point. I'm not saying that nobody worked for the culture that they have. I'm saying that YOU personally are lucky that you were born to people within that culture. You had no control over the circumstances of your birth. You obviously do agree with what I'm saying, because you acknowledge that you did not "earn your birth", which is self evident.
This host was far far more tolerable then the host of the actual presentation. Shes given him time to discuss his point, barely interruped him and she even listened to what he said.
The ‘moderator’ of the debate was laughable. She should be sacked if Doha Debates value their reputation.
Mr. Murray always does a great job of exposing and destroying leftists.
"issues that are still playing out ... " Yes, Douglas, that's one way to say it. Another way to say it is "We're screwed ... "
goodd point regarding the yazidis, i often wondered why soemthing significant wasnt done at that point.
Not many yazidis in the west. That's why.
Douglas should be in Westminster
He's too honest
He's too smart to join a political party...
The road to sorrow & regret is paved with good intentions .....
All this makes perfect sense to me citizens come first. If after the citizens are taken care of there is a little left over fine let in couple thousand. Don't throw the doors open an let 1 an all come in that is crazy. They allowed their country to be destroyed now your leaders are letting them destroy yours.
He's spot on thanks Douglas
A great interviewer - and a great interviewer too! Douglas Murray is always interesting but I enjoyed the way this interview was conducted, with Nelufar getting to the meat of the topic and allowing her guests views to be expanded upon. Obviously immigration is a huge topic, and as Douglas Murray says in the video, we have to look at it from a perspective of what's sustainable, too...
She's one of the best interviewers I have seen in a very very long time.
I am afraid I am becoming such a fan-boy of Mr. Murray. I could listen to him all day.
One basic, minimal requirement for coming to a Western country MUST be an ABSOLUTE tolerance for blasphemy. No ifs or buts. If you are unwilling or unable to muster up this requirement you are unfit to live in the West.
What a fabulous interview and interviewer. She's really great but Dougie's the greatest!
Brilliant!
Douglas is a hero!!
Thank GOD for Douglas Murray and Jordan B Peterson. VERY few others are speaking sense.
A very well moderated conversation! I’d love to see the uncut version if possible? Either way, well edited, and always good to hear from Douglas Murray!
What seems to astonish Nelufar Hedayat is that EUROPEANS should actually DARE to think that we should have the right to decide who enters our space. At this time, our Political Class (through political and religious incompetence) has admitted into OUR ancestral space, the vile quasi-religion of ISLAM. Ask yourself whether increasing ISLAM is likely to lead to a better, or worse, 'society'? Then there is the problem of ISLAMIC dualism, through which the World is divided between the HOUSE OF ISLAM and the HOUSE OF WAR. To Muslims, only Muslims matter: the KUFAR do not.
Mark Dyer - Yes, it's remarkable, isn't it? I've lived and worked in several countries in Southeast Asia and the Gulf. In all of the countries where I've worked they have strict controls on who can enter and how long they can stay. They even restrict foreigners from owning property in their nations. It's also notable that none of the Gulf Arab nations have offered their co-religionist migrants refuge in their countries. And yet if any European nation dares to articulate concern about who crosses their borders, they are automatically denounced as being racist or Islamophobic.
@@wiseonwords On BBC Radio 4 just a half hour ago, there was a programme about the Gulf States. The Arab citizen was asked, "How do you get to be a citizen of one of the Gulf States?" The reply was very enlightening! "By being born into a family who are already citizens!" There you have it, in a nutshell! Were we to apply that principle in the UK, citing ISLAMIC purity precedent, then many people within the UK would not be able to 'reach' far back into the 20th Century, in order to qualify. Very interesting! Odd how the ARAB states maintain their 'purity', whilst sullying the purity of other cultures. Could this be ISLAMIC ENTITLEMENT at work?
Dennis Lewis Such an apt comment. These refugees don’t complain about the gulf countries not taking them in.
100% common sense from that man.
This skilful interviewer was a good antidote to the appalling moderator on the Doha Debate in which Murray participated: the individual in question didn’t understand her role, and was utterly biased: interrupting Murray, spewing out patent untruths, and generally acting as though she was on part of the opposing team. If Doha Debates want some credibility they need to replace her quickly, possibly with this woman.
For his book, he actually travelled to many of the places where immigration reaches Europe and also the places where immigration has already transformed life in Europe. I wonder how many of those who criticise him for his "right-wing" views have done that themselves!
Try- none of them.
What a pleasant and insightful interview.
Wow, fair treatment from a qatari news event, not from BBC!! Somthing is totally absured here
Murray is one of my faves.
Being born in a good country is not a matter of luck. It isn't luck that made them good countries. My grandparents made a conscious decision to move to Australia when it was NOT a rich country. It wasn't the toss of a coin that made the choice for them and they were among those who made Australia rich, in spite of Australia's arid climate and poor, leached soils. They are entitled to have the fruits of their labours go to their own descendants. Modern immigrants are Johnny-Come-Latelies. They would sponge off the earlier waves of migrants who put in the blood sweat and tears to pay for the roads, ports, schools etc..
You can consider yourself lucky. You can^t be proud of it …. you didn`t actually do anything to be born in Australia. It`s pure luck.
I share the values of my ancestors who made Australia a great place to live. That I didn't choose my parents doesn't make it a matter of luck that I am here. My grandparents made a conscious choice to come here, and they didn't come to rich nation to get a slice of the wealth that another culture created. They came to an outpost of their own country. The first British settlers didn't sail into an established society with infrastructure and institutions in place. They started from scratch.
I am proud of my inheritance and I am grateful for the white Australia policy which ensured that our lawmakers were NOT chosen by people who believed in caste, or polygamy or FGM or Sharia law or Karma.
@@Pallomides What a strange think to say, everyone is proud of their ancestors and we build on what they created to make it even better. He did not do anything to be born in a great and rich country, but is parents and their parents did. They worked hard to ensure that their children would be born into a great and functioning society, and he will do the same for his children. Luck has nothing to do with it, it is hard work, community and liberty that makes great countries, i.e. the choices of free individuals and community spirit...
If you are from a poor country, think to yourself "What can I do to make this country great?, What can I do to create a better future for my children?" - If you do this, chances are your children will be born in a country that is in a better state than when you were born, and that will be because of your actions, no because of luck...
Again, nothing to do with luck, it is all about choices and willingness to secure the next generation...
@@chriswatson1698 _"That I didn't choose my parents doesn't make it a matter of luck that I am here."_
That's exactly what makes it luck. It was chosen for you. That you were not born disabled is a matter of luck. That you were not born 200 years ago is a matter of luck. Everything about your birth is a matter of luck.
_"My grandparents made a conscious choice to come here"_
So... you didn't? Sounds like you were pretty lucky.
That is not the meaning of the word luck. Luck is something NOT chosen by ANYBODY. It is random.
7:10 Douglas describes the feeling of "being lucky" to be born in a developed country...and I agree that one's own place of birth is down to personal good fortune if ione is born to a good family in a developed nation, but that is not the same as saying that it is mere good fortune that developed countries have high standards of living through mere chance. Are less developed countries "unlucky"? The high standards of living in devloped Western nations are associated with european values (eg. rules of law, freedom of speech, free elections with representative government, keeping religion as far away from power as possible etc) and these values have been forged through years of turmoil in european history. A modern european should feel no guilt about their ancestors having developed these values, often hard fought for. One might feel lucky that we didn't have to do the fighting ourselves, but no guilt is required. Less developed nations can simply start by following the road map to developed nation statehood which european history teaches. Remove religion from politics, permit free expression and debate, hold free elections, etc... If migrants from less developed nations, who have no awareness of the path to european developed nation statehood, come to Europe and bring their values with them then conflict arises when they try and retain their own values. There is a cultural clash that threatens the developed state by introducing religion into postions of power, by trying to overturn the rule of law etc... this is why diversity of cultural opinions over vital european values can NEVER be a strength.
Very well said Sir 👍 Checkout Niall Fergusons "Killer Apps" speech. He discusses some of the points you raised with regards to the Great Divergence.
@@willk1756 thanks, I have been there before. He and Daniel Hannan's book about freedom and why it mattters informed me, or reminded me and hleped articulate what I have felt for many years. I just want some elected politcians to start saying this stuff! They would have somuch support from the people of the UK if they did.
We don't have enough houses ffs.
It’s nice the interviewer allowed Douglas to finish his answers.
You have to remember that we went through the same problems but in an earlier age so we have suffered in the past and came through it without help from other countries. So the people in the third world have now the chance to do in their country what we did in ours and work for a better future. If your young people leave then what chance has their country to improve and become somewhere to stay rather than leave.
so true
Excellent interviewee, as always - Douglas Murray. I am reminded of the occasion when the late Christopher Hitchens who related a story where someone confronting an Islamist refugee about rights of residence made a chilling reply by saying "What makes you think this is your country?" If the world is one, in the ultimate analysis there is no answer, but for the time being we have countries with borders.
Euroopean guilt is a false guilt for being successful.
If you cannot tolerate free speech, then get out.
That was a great interview. Far better than anything I've seen on mainstream media regardinig such an emotional topic. You have a new subscriber.
Cracking!
A very good interview, and a good interviewer too
This woman should clearly have been the moderator in the main debate. She effortlessly drew out the witty and erudite best of Douglas Murray - and not by any means thru soft-ball questions.
Fakhri in the min (non-) debate just wanted to impose her own highly partisan view, and frequently talked over both contributors and audience comments - thereby absolutely eliminating ANY possibility of achieving the stated aim of consensus or convergence from the various contributions.
Love Douglas Murray.
Murray does a jolly good job here!
Well said Douglas. Bloody British hero.
Lovely young lady interviewing Douglas,really enjoyable.
A much, much better discussion than that horrid debate. Many thanks to both interviewer and interviewee.
Maybe we were lucky to be born in the West, but our ancestors worked hard to create this civilization and its our responsibility to preserve it and not piss it all away out of some misplaced guilt for being successful.
Douglas should be a national and international adviser, to bring sanity to a world where tolerance has been pushed into apathy.
This entire migrant issue is asymmetrical, unrealistic and sold in delusion. Our cultures, education, beliefs and standards were never similar.
what a pleasant interview. good ending with a laugh. there's hope
You Must separate migrants from asylum seekers. There has and continues to be an effort to obfuscate the line and its done on purpose.
There is no luck involved about being born in Europe. People actually ran away from Europe because it became too crowded and starvation was common in northern Europe just 100 years ago. Without modern fertilizers we would have to ask Russia for food.
Douglas should be running this country, oh god if only. Great guy.
Good interview. Well done.
Douglas is a very clever man.
the interviewer made the whole thing a vibe... kudos to her👏
nice conversation ..
Great guest and questions. It's only the audio that can be improved on!
Bravo DOHA. This interview puts the BBC to shame. DM was asked questions and actually given and space to respond. Furthermore, the questions were open and relevant.
This interview, the way it was conducted, has earned this channel a sub... And Douglas the ever eloquent would agree that this was too short... Encore...???
Migration is not the main reason why the people are voting for national socialistic parties. Brussels centralisim and the Euro currency are the main reason why this is happening.
Mostly had to guess what the questions were as the interviewers mic wasn't on or was in her pocket. None-the-less a worthwhile watch.
Absolutely excellent from both sides
LEBANON TURKEY AND JORDAN DO NOT ACCEPT REFUGEES NOT EVEN FROM ARAB AND MUSLIM BACKGROUND AND DIFINITELY NOT OTHER RACES AND RELIGIONS.WHAT DID THE REPORTER GET HER MYTH FROM?????!
Props to the interviewer 👏🏼
@sammy the bass what 😂
The questions posed, were answered clearly,concisely and with facts... as usual by Duglas.
very good DM
great interviewer-great interwiee
Why are you not talking about this now Douglas, with boat loads of illegal immigrants arriving every day
The incredible charisma Murray has made the lady smile and laugh that she may have forgotten, even for a moment, that he's gay.
Never seen Douglas without a suit 😆
Brexit has bugger all to do with it.
Here's a thought experiment. Suppose the UK had a civil war and huge numbers of British asylum / economic migrants poured into say Egypt for example. Wouldn't the good people of Egypt not be justified in being a little disgruntled ?
Douglas, you use "WE" too much, I never voted for any of this nonsense.
3:50
Brexit was WAY more about Eastern European migration into Britain than war refugees from Syria. This woman's mind has been fully distracted by skin color like so many in her generation.
Nice jumper
One direction saves the world. Didn't see that coming
Douglas is my man crush
The stealth Islamists who have entrenched themselves in Western society must truly despise Douglas
Question of "luck" does not apply to people born in EU by EU parents. Something obvious and normal is not "lucky" Lucky are people who were supposed to be born in other places but they were born in EU. Word " Lucky" leads to word "privileged". So called "privilege" is worked out by my ancestors and I am working for it too. I have to work for it so it is my "payment" not privilege. p.s. good reporter. Asking questions and not disturbing answer.