I picked the GoPro, Low light does not apply to me and from what I can tell the bugginess/overheating is both fixed and slightly overhyped. Not trying to discount anyone who does run into any issues with GoPro, but it does seem like most of the issues are pretty regular/predictable and can be worked around. Overall the GoPro is a better fit for me and so that's what I picked. Other people find a better match with the Action 4. That's why it is called a market and not just a checkout line Lol. Side note. I have run into too many comment sections that are either GoPro'ers or Action 4'ers. Each with varying levels of hostility to those in non agreement. I got a warning from one RUclipsr that basically came down to three options. 1. Continue with GoPro but admit that DJI is better and GoPro is BAD. or 2. Switch to DJI and state that GoPro is BAD. or 3. Stop commenting on my videos. All I did was ask questions for as to why DJI was Objectively better, or at least why GoPro was objectively BAD. Sorry if I started to rant, but my point is that I really like this comment section for its openness to both sides, discussions are happening with some strong points but everyone I have seen is polite and recognizes that different people have different values from an action camera and that no one camera is best for everyone. TLDR: Thanks for having a good moment section.
I have went through around 4 other Action 4 vs Hero 12 comparisons, and yours is the only one showing such a big difference in the stabilization, which doesn’t make sense to me. What settings were you on? Was it all standard settings with Rocksteady and Hypersmooth on?
Same here. The action 4 looks very smooth in all the other videos I've seen except for this one. I was almost discouraged from buying it because of how bad it looks in this video. I went ahed and ordered it anyway!
@@isaigonzalez5411 could you please tell me what did you decide and what camera did you end up buying? I am very confused due to the image quality of the GP and I need to buy soon. Thank you so much.
Great review and comparison. I’ve never had either so new to me. I have a DJI drone which is superb. I like the slightly smaller package, the mounting system, the touch screens and those pushed me to the DJI. I got it today! Very neat design and tiny in the flesh. Time will tell!
I've been in the GoPro ecosystem for a while and have owned several, but the DJI is awfully tempting. I have had freezing issues with both of my current GoPros and the fact that they haven't upgraded the Max in forever might cause me to get the Osmo4 next.
Hmmm, interesting. My A4 overheats on 4K/30 in 18 - 24 Minutes Static. It was fine before I updated the firmware to 01.01.07.30. Oh just noticed there is a new one. Hope that is better
That's really weird. When I tested mine in 4K/30 it went for 7 hours and I just stopped recording as I saw no point in continuing. Looks like I won't be updating the firmware anytime soon.
GoPro has much better design … and seems like stabilisation is much better - but this is really it. Possibly some better slomo or 4k, but how much better it is? 😅 … what I am trying to say is if Action 4 a better choice to me … if design and stabilisation can be slightly improved in Action 5 - it will be 100% winner to me. Sad to see how GoPro went down with Hero 12: they focused and improved only couple things, they could deliver better performance and processor and all those aspects Action 4 and Action 3 has 😢
19:50 Hi, are you sure that the charging case of the Dji really has the 30W fast charge? Because their website doesn't say so. They offer an extra 30W charger for 19,99€ that they advertise as fast-charging in 18 minutes. Did you use both?
As a snowboarder myself I would probably pick the OA4 at this point. Especially switching mounts quickly … this said I have not tested the strength of the magnetic clip on a board and all its vibrations. Helmet shouldn’t be a problem at all though.
In almost every clip osmo gives rolling shutter and shaking. So even if the dynamic range may be better the video seems unusable. The osmo seem over sharpened also.
4:40 It's not magic. GoPro12 forced bit rate to be variable, reason why sometimes the footage appears lower quality than its setting. This is likely the reason why the file size is smaller and how they managed to prolong battery life and somewhat subside overheating issue while using the practically the same physical device.
Thank you for making this informative comparison video. I have been looking for such content since the launch of GoPro Hero 12. 👍🏽 I’m your new subscriber from Thailand. 🇹🇭
Excellent comparison video, after see your review, I decided to upgrade from iPhone+DJI 2 to OA4. Using it for first person view mainly, land and underwater. Low light recording hit me (there’s low light environment all the time). Invisible stick seem pretty cool for skiing, I wonder if my Action Stick would work.
The distortion of gopro 12 is wayyy too much to be acceptable. I really like the magnetic design of action 4 comparing to the screw or gopro's traditional mount. I had an action 3 with the same magnetic mount base and it was so convenient while hiking and biking.
Unbelievable!the footages seems like the cameras were switched🤣🤣 The 2nd Footage looks like the DJi footage🤣 and vice versa 😂😂😂😂 am now thinking about the Hero 12...it seems to me somehow better than the A4
Yes, the image quality in daylight on GoPro is much better. And this is the most important point. Also, stabilization is better on GoPro. All other things are better on Action 4.
At 07:13 the GoPro seems to have a better low light performance. The Action 4 has jitters that are very noticeable and annoying. It seems the DJI may be better in low light with very static shots. I’d rather have some noise than those jitters that remind of rolling shutter.
That's a fraud. He deliberately adjusted the parameters to lower OA4. There cannot be such a big difference. I own the OA4 and am very pleased with it, it shoots extremely well in low light.
@@MrNoname56, except for the fact other people complained about DJI doing that jitter/micro stuttering. As stefpix said, it's very annoying and it reminds us of rolling shutter of old GoPro cameras that were almost unusable when filming MTB riding and such.
If you limit the A4 shutter speed to 1/200, increase ISO to 3200 max, and use the lens hood (the lens hood is optional, however it will lower your iso some) you won’t have any EIS issues. He surely knows this but opted not to change the settings for some reason. Or maybe he didn’t know. He said the A4 has a mic on top when all mics are on the bottom. The top is just a speaker. Shows the location of the mics in the manual.
actually the lowlight stablizition of low light like Joey mention in 07:08 , DJI turn to keep the image quality with a slow shutter speed like 1/300~1/400, if you wanna a better stablizition in low light, just set the stutter to1/800, but the image will also turn worse, and DJI Have optimize it in the last firmware in 0907.2023 😁😁
i was bought action 4 and i really disapointed about record 1080, very bad, 1080 on action 4 like 720p on DJI pocket 2, 1080 on pocket2 like 2.7k on ac4
do you know i used pocket 2 on hd 1080p for 2 years. I dontt have complant . But now action 4 1080p never like 1080p on pocket 2 really shock@@Fr4p4d1ngu3
I've got the GoPro Hero 9 and thinking of upgrading to the 12, but in literally every comparison shot I preferred the colour of the DJI. Thanks for the review 👌🙏
I have the 8, pre-ordered the 12 cause.... I don't like change. :o) I actually prefer the colors of the GP... seems more vivid to me... brighter? Even with all my new tv's... I quickly choose "vivid" view... I dunno.
@@1999maio I know what you mean, I don't like change either, I've got all the accessories for GoPro and it'll be a complete faff to change 🤦♂ I definitely preferred the DJI colours though, I liked the contrast. I hope you enjoy the 12!
When it comes to overheating, I think DJI really takes advantage of its magnetic mount system. I think they use the mount system to redirect some heat from the sensor. Can't state it as a fact, but the mount on my Osmo Action 3 feels quite warm after filming 4k 120
that would be genius to just increse the thermal mass to store and disapate heat. but with plastiks that doesn't sound very efektiv because of its poor thermal transfere rates.
That's good possible. I was even surprised that GoPro didn't made any adjustments yet to their case. Like this is the 4th case already which is exactly the same and has overheating issues. Verry strange that they keep it like this for so long while they know about the issues. They now probably reduced some processing software wise on the 12. But why not just bringing more metal heatsinks to the outer shell. Really don't understand this after 4 versions now...
I've had GoPro and Osmo Action and Insta 360 cameras. Each has its advantages, but the most reliable has always been DJI. In heat and cold, GoPro suddenly turns itself off, freezes relatively often. DJI (1st generation OA) not the best picture but always reliable. If I press REC then I will have a guaranteed recording.
I love GoPro and recently picked up the OA4. Yeah, the stabilization on the OA4 during low light isn't the best but I can tell you personally that the OA4 wins in just about every other category. I know you people who have been GoPro fans have a hard time accepting that there is a new action camera king and I had a hard time accepting that also. But truthfully, accepting change won't be as hard once you start using the OA4. The camera is a beast and a game changer. Try it out unbiasedly and you'll be blown away.
@@Broba_Fett there is one more mode.... Rocksteady + which he wasn't using. There is a big difference with that more. But I use Rocksteady and it works great for me. The OA4 is currently the GoPro killer. I hope the GP13 is significantly better when it comes out. Personally, I'm staying with the OA4 till then
Im not having a hard time accepting there's an action camera better then the gopro. Im having a hard time finding the evidence, because it wasnt in this video. I dont know what you guys were watching. Seriously.
I would just like to say that this is the first comment section on a video that is not full of fanboys bashing the other company in unreasonable ways. Sure! Go ahead and state why you picked one, if you are running into issues with how you use a GoPro then sure I think that is relevant. However, different people have different issues, preferences and different things that they like about the different cameras. Too many people I see are basing the decision like this. (From my perspective without bothering to make it sound polite, I do acknowledge that most comments are more polite than this.) "GoPro is unreliable, DJI has bigger sensor therefor better sensor. DJI NEVER has ANY issues. Therefor DJI Action 4 is OBJECTIVELY better for EVERYONE." I get some people have had issues with GoPro, some issues happen regularly for some people. However, not everyone will run into those issues and a bigger sensor is not always better, or at least not better in every way. For example GoPro has a different aspect ratio for the sensor, some people will use that aspect ratio and benefit from it more than a bigger sensor. I also have a Hot Take for everyone to bash me about. :) (no joke go ahead and make fun of me LOL) In a lot of the Action 4 v GP 11/12 low light tests I actually would rather work with the GoPro in more cases then the DJI. GoPro picks a point at which they just give up on placing detail in the shadows, whereas DJI does have detail, yes, To me it just looks noisy/grainy. I would rather work with a darker image than a poor looking brighter image. The DJI sensor might let more light in but in a lot of cases the processing just does not know how to make that light good. After thought, the well lit areas of the images are both useable to an extent when colour grading anyway. Please, go ahead and bash me ;) Edit: The footage in this video is not the case, at least in the shadows in normal light.
I was going for the GoPro, but apparently it shuts off when it gets too hot (and you lose your data and/or video). So, I am going for the Action 4. This will be the first time getting a small camera of this magnitude since my first purchase of the Flip Mino HD years ago 😂💀
GoPro 12 for me. I use my camera for mountain biking and the wider FOV, better dynamic range, better stabliaztion, better video quality, better picture quality, better slowmo, 8:7 sensor, and more video options makes it a winner for me. When I tried using the OA4 the smaller FOV didn't capture as much as I would like and would cut off a lot of the trail. Also, they say OA4 is better in low light, but when I went into wooded areas the stablization would go to crap and I would get a lot of mico gitters, which you can see in Joey's videos. Makes the video unsable. So, if you do any type of action sports, or vlogging go with the GoPro.
I've just cycled across Africa for 7 months using a osmo action 3 and not a single problem. So many things I didn't miss to record because I had this camera. One friend joined for a few months with a gopro and he had so many freezing and overheating issues... also the he missed a lot shots because of the time reaction. Osmo action is a rock 💪🏽
Which camera to buy? Neither. Im waiting for Pocket 3. I already have Gopro 11 and Go 3. Guess which one i usually use? Its not the GoPro. Go 3 is just so fun and easy to use.
I've got the Pocket 2. Seems DJI has abandoned it. No new firmware upgrades. No word on the imaginary Pocket 3. No more DJI for me. Though P2 has been a very solid camera, excellent in the dark.
@@DrivingPhilippines There some recent leaks about Pocket 3. Someone spotted a DJI employee testing it in the wild. You can search for a channel called It's Sky. He covered it recently.
The worst thing about the GoPro is turning it off when it gets hot, and in tropical countries it can't handle 2 dry batteries without getting hot and turning off the second battery with approximately 38% of charge used. I take 20 batteries in the GoPro 11 for a day of filming because it gets too hot. What do you have to say about the osmo 4 regarding this?
Great review, thanks. Watched a few of those the last days and you pointed out some things the others didn't like file size, performance in the cold (which was a huge problem withe 11),... Am using the camera for skiing videos and will get the 12.
Still wondering though if the cold performance will be any better as a huge factor there is the wind chill, which you don't get in the freezer. The 11 shut down after 2-5 mins below -10 with wind chill.
May be only with Rock steady turned off. I was driving through a wood with the A4, 4k 60fps and rocksteady, it was getting darker, and suddenly the imagequality gets very bad, washed out, the picture was shaking. Never had this with the G11
3:04 stood out to me.... while taking steps on the street... the shoe in movement was blurry with the action4... clear as day with GP..... I prefer brighter more vivid colors... pre-ordered the 12...
mostly all reviews are not telling the truth about dji action 4 i found a few honest reviews, the 4k is not true 4k in forums there are complaints its upscaled from 2k
I've got a gopro it's junk overheating problems constantly, if the dji doesn't over heat , batteries last longer and charge faster I'm going to get a dji no brainer .
One thing that I noticed after watching this comparison video. Is that everyone is saying that the Osmo action has vetter lowlight capabilities than the gopro. But what good is the lowlights capabilities if it falls apart without the stability. On the other hand the gopro maintains the lowlight capabilities olong with the stabilization. . This is huge for anyone that love the outdoors or like shooting car Videos
Personally I think these cameras are neck and neck. DJI has convenience features and low light. GP has slow mo and overall video quality. Provided you're using the camera in an active situation, the battery life is very close. Personally dji has a blue tint that I dont like. Their daytime video don't meet my needs
As a Hero 10 user, the most unreliable camera of the last 3 years. I haven't lost footage at all despite filling 4 TB of data in very important trips that I couldn't possibly recover. In particular a trip to Italy. So reliability is important for sure, but in my opinion the concerns are overblown.
@@ariescorner7655 I’ve lost zero footage on my Go Pro 10 and as long as you’re familiar with it’s shortcomings you can adjust how you record. I was aware of the over heating issues on previous models but thought the 10 fixed it and boy I was wrong. The shorter battery life was awful in 4k60 compared to my OG Osmo Action. The first time I rode with my DJI I kept thinking the battery had died because after an hour I didn’t hear any beeps or anything. After those first 60 mins i had to keep looking in the mirror to see if the light was still on and it was. Got a good 75 mins worth and no issues while recording at home. It just worked and I didn’t need to adjust to anything unlike the Go Pro. This is the reason I switched to a MacBook Pro cause Windows had too many issues and I’ve been in IT for over 20 years. When Go Pro solves its over heating issues and improves it battery life I’m going to get the DJI. Not sure what I’m gonna do with my Hero 10 but maybe I can use it as a front facing camera on the bike and lower the resolution to match with the DJI battery life on 4k60.
@@ariescorner7655 i can’t tell you cause the action 4 is my very first action cam but before i bought it i made a loooong research over the net and here on yt, and found hundreds and hundres of comments where gopro users complain about freezins, lost of footage, ridicolous battery life, so went for action 4 and i could be more than happy for my decision.
To my eyes the osmo is maybe on kar with my hero 9. I really don't see these two as competitors. The 11 was already better than the Osmo for the most part. The GP12 is however a bit of a disappointment unless GP release a dedicated Bluetooth mic for it that delivers great audio. The airpods thing is just a pointless gimmick and really bad.
I think that using mic audio from the AirPods is a bad idea for 99% of cases if not more. But the wireless Communications with your GoPro from places that your actual GoPro cannot hear you would be pretty useful. Also if you can use actual bluetooth mics, that would be the point I would actually use it.
I have the OA3. I was wondering just how good the 12 is before I get the OA4. Being GoPro is more widely available, especially the batteries!!! I will be sticking with the dji! I love the disconnection and the front touch screen. Good comparison!
So vid conclude dji is better on low light gopro12 is better on stabilization dji is better on audio and we have to choose a camera that’s suits that person Thank you for video but can you make another video after 6months which one you use more (and how you use ex. Indoor, bike, daytime etc.. ) Thanks again
I was going to buy Action 4, but after watching this video, I doubt about this, and more inclined to buy GoPro only for one reason: image quality in daylight. The GoPro 11 and 12 is a clear winner in this category, and this is the most important category. Another huge advantage of GoPro 12 is the option to use ear plugs as a microphone. I like it so much, because it's convenient and there is no need to buy an expensive external microphone.
The stabilisation on DJI is much worse than the one on GoPro. That's how I figured out which camera is which in the beginning. The other aspect is the HDR part, on GoPro you could see a lot more of the highlights or dark parts (see for instance also 12:07, you have a way better dynamic range on GoPro, you see all those details of the clouds while DJI's clounds are just gray). Too bad it does worse in dark scenes, but I would guess it is less likely to film in the dark. On daytime, I would pick GoPro for sure, you get extremely good stabilisation and very good image; imagine filming on you bike helmet or while skiing. If I may suggest an improvement: please don't change the position of the products; omce you have GoPro on the right, keep it consistent, always on the right; sometimes you film them inverted and itncan get confusing.
I just switched from GoPro to DJI a day ago. I’m still working through it but it’s been good thus far. You kind of glossed through the timecode features. Can you please see if the GoPro 12 can be jam synced from an external timecode generator? I know you can do that with the GP 11 and labs firmware, but GoPro told me that you can’t do that on the 12… you can only sync timecode via QR Code which there’s only one timecode generator that has that integrated into their time bar app (Tentacle Sync).
Torn because the GoPro seems quicker to get a ready to use image but is missing GPS. DJI seems better but that low light stabilization is trash, so maybe an update can correct it
My use case scenario ( Motorcycle helmet + walkaround/modifying/fixing bike ) requires a camera that works. An action camera that will actually do its job EVERY time I ask it to do that job. So Action 4. The gP12 is a better camera as a camera. As a tool to get footage though it is not as good as the action. And that is something gopro didnt really address. I am currently running a hero 4 silver and ( used to ) GP7 black. So either one will be a massive upgrade but the hero 4 has never let me down. The gp7 constantly let me down which is why I am wary of gopro. This is unfortunate as the gopro is about 200 dollars cheaper like for like ( 2 batteries etc ) here in Oz. Good indepth video with no force fed conclusions 👍
realy great comparison impresiv how good they are now. personaly I have to say I like the more fildert/noise reduced soud from the gopro better. The magnetic mount isn't a k.o. kriteria for me becaus for the gopro you can buy a 16€ feet repacement thats a 3 in 1 withe the adition of the dji magnetic mount. as a diver the water tightnes ratings aren't important for me becaus I need the underwater case anyway. the lowlight of the dji is devinitly impresif for sutch a small camera. for me its going to be the gopro bescaus of the more options and the huge aftermarket acesorie market for them
Thanks mate… I’ve seen several comparisons and though I’ve always been a GoPro user I think I’ll have to go with dji now… a shame they haven’t keep up with the improvements
I would recommend going for the Hero 12. Unless the price difference is actually an issue for you. Or just get the GoPro subscription for the $100 USD discount. Still works out a bit cheeper I believe, I might be wrong about that last option though.
Dumped GoPro for DJI a long time ago, in a different league, main benefit is the reliability. Never had an issue with DJI I could bore you with the software and firmware issues with GoPro, as I motovlog it’s far more important than any low light performance. Want a camera to perform in low light use a DSLR. Good review, one of the best I’ve seen…
Thank you. A good overview. I want to say that GoPro has a terribly ugly design. I don't want to hold this dirty thing in my hands. And a terrible fish eye. I want the camera to show night at night and day at day. And this is natural. I've never liked GoPro. My choice is DJI. This is my camera and I am very happy.
Looks like GoPro has indesputably better stab in low light - question is is it due to Osmo not cranking up the shutter speed so high in low light - it shoots less noisy footage, but stab fails, or is it due to GoPro finally figuring it out how to deal with low light. My Hero10 behaves exactly like Osmo4 in low light, possibly even worse - lights are jumping randomly, and weird smears all over
no debate even gopro 11 still can beat osmo action 4, i've decided to buy already the gopro 11, i think im enough to have just dji action 2 then for another action cam gopro image quality and image still are beast, because when you are in vehicle the stabilize and sharpness from gopro is consistenly. and also the image ratio 8:7 sensor is my reason why pick gopro as daily driver action cam. because you just need to record 1 time to record a footage for youtube and social media platform
I think being a Gopro user that because it’s new we also need to give it some time as new updates come to play just like with OA4 I have Osmo pocket and for low light works great and I am a DJI believer I own their Drones no one can beat them , Joey thanks for making this video as you break it down in categories very well.Also FYI if you are a subscriber than it’s $299.00 US.
I’m a huge cyclist and the fact the Go Pro Hero 12 removed the GPS chip this years is a deal breaker. Me and other members in our cycling clubs use the gps data for training. It’s a shame because I was def looking to upgrade from the Hero 9 Black and take advantage of the Go Pro subscription deal smh.
If you have an iPhone and Apple Watch, all the GPS data you would need is in there now with iOS 17
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Acton 4, no doubts, reliable, beautiful underwater, best menu system, low’light, quick magnetic mount. No need for gimmicky features, fake HDR nor higher res on such small action anyway.
Great video. Can I ask why the insta360 one RS doesn’t seem to make it into a lot of recent comparisons of the major brands these days ? I’m considering picking up the One RS to give them a try as they are a seemingly very versatile camera.
You'll have your own use cases, but just to say the marketing from Insta360 is a powerful thing, the cameras themselves are more limited than they appear. I have just returned my X3 after playing around with it for a few days. The videos look ok on your phone, but viewing them on anything larger looks pretty rubbish. I just got an X3 for our trip where we'll be doing lots of travelling around in the car, cities etc, but lots of snorkelling too. The quality when doing 360 video was poor (while it boasts 5.7K, you need to remember this is stretched around a sphere, and the usable resolution is only 1080p), lots of artefacts, way over-sharpened and lacking in detail. The real dealbreaker was despite the camera being marketed as an action camera for water (the front of the box shows a stylised shot of the camera underwater), 360 video does NOT work underwater, you require the Invisible Dive case for this, which is an extra £100 and not available yet. I'm now trying to decide between the GoPro 12 and the OA4, hence being here!
The picture from the OA4 is more organic which is indicative of a larger sensor with larger pixels to produce better image quality. The Hero 12 has a sort of smartphone look to it IMO. Kind of like how Arri cameras used to use 1080p 35mm sensors but had amazing picture quality
I ask all of you why do you promote gopro ? Don't buy a gopro, it's fragile. They promote their products like it's durable but my gopro 11 didn't survive a mild accident and you can't repair your gopro if there's a small problem. Buying a gopro is wasting your money &energy.
I'm invested in the GoPro ecosystem, but do I like the low light capabilities of the DJI and the snap mount system. Maybe GoPro will add a larger sensor next year.
So the low light performance in motion - in normal use - is actually better on the GoPro…? The GP12 clearly has superior low light performance under stabilisation. The dynamic range looks much better. For static images the OA4 looks great but these are ACTION cameras. This review is vastly different conclusion to many others I’ve seen. Were the exposure settings/modes identical in these tests?
I have a Hero 11. I also have a DJI Mic that I can exclusively use with the Action 4, hence getting the action 4. also, i can shoot with the 11 next to the action 4 for overall good video.
I would rather a separate but similar camera line with the option of controlling focus. Or the same line but with an actual manual focus option rather than a software blur. But either would be great.
action 4 might have features on paper, but the real usage is just sooo much cleaner on gopro 1. stabilization on go pro seems better for both light and dark scenarios. 2. the connection app of go pro Quick (4.8 star) is miles away from the action with 3.1 star reviews :D I personally wouldn't buy a device that has a poor mobile support (looking at you sony :/ ). Why to bother if you then can shoot on your phone 95% time and share instantaneously.
The DJI action 4’s microphones are all on the bottom. If you look at the manual it identifies the location of all. The top of the Action 4 is a speaker only, not a microphone.
This is the worst comparison I have ever seen from a Go Pro FANBOY. The OA 4 Is obviously the better camera. Even using a scuffed-up OA4 in this review was biased. Glossing over the 22 min run-time of the GoPro was Sheer BS. You couldn't do a worse review if you tried.
I've seen really dark footage perfectly stabilized with de OA3, but you need to go with a higher ISO, because otherwise it starts to decrease the shutter speed, and the result is what you see in this video
I have a gp11,image quality and stabilisation exceptionally good,reliability ok,doesn't like cold and I've pulled the battery twice in 18 months. Now the osmo wins in all other areas and i do wish someone could combine both,up to now nobody has....we wait.
Thanks for this review! Really very helpful. I just started using GoPro 8s for work (wildlife biologist) and I like them, but the Action 4 seems like a better buy for a novice like me.
I have to ask, what is the stuff on the lens ring on the Osmo in this video? It seemingly changes in appearance in different views on the video, at times looking clean, then looking like it has a thick coating of dust like the vent from a clothes dryer and even looking like it was a liquid in one shot. Maybe it needed a quick wipe down before shooting?
Thanks for stopping by in the comments! Curious to hear which one you would pick! Let me know :)
Chose the Action 4 after originally waiting for the GoPro
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I picked the GoPro, Low light does not apply to me and from what I can tell the bugginess/overheating is both fixed and slightly overhyped. Not trying to discount anyone who does run into any issues with GoPro, but it does seem like most of the issues are pretty regular/predictable and can be worked around. Overall the GoPro is a better fit for me and so that's what I picked. Other people find a better match with the Action 4.
That's why it is called a market and not just a checkout line Lol.
Side note. I have run into too many comment sections that are either GoPro'ers or Action 4'ers. Each with varying levels of hostility to those in non agreement. I got a warning from one RUclipsr that basically came down to three options. 1. Continue with GoPro but admit that DJI is better and GoPro is BAD. or 2. Switch to DJI and state that GoPro is BAD. or 3. Stop commenting on my videos.
All I did was ask questions for as to why DJI was Objectively better, or at least why GoPro was objectively BAD.
Sorry if I started to rant, but my point is that I really like this comment section for its openness to both sides, discussions are happening with some strong points but everyone I have seen is polite and recognizes that different people have different values from an action camera and that no one camera is best for everyone.
TLDR: Thanks for having a good moment section.
I own two Go Pros and two DJI’s. For some reason I honestly prefer the DJI, all the way around.
I have went through around 4 other Action 4 vs Hero 12 comparisons, and yours is the only one showing such a big difference in the stabilization, which doesn’t make sense to me. What settings were you on? Was it all standard settings with Rocksteady and Hypersmooth on?
Same here. The action 4 looks very smooth in all the other videos I've seen except for this one. I was almost discouraged from buying it because of how bad it looks in this video. I went ahed and ordered it anyway!
@@isaigonzalez5411and the stabilization is that bad? I ordered mine yesterday and now I'm having questions because of this video😅
@@isaigonzalez5411 is action 4 worth buying? Im about to order it but still cant decide gopro vs dji, pls help 😬
@@isaigonzalez5411 could you please tell me what did you decide and what camera did you end up buying? I am very confused due to the image quality of the GP and I need to buy soon. Thank you so much.
Great review and comparison. I’ve never had either so new to me. I have a DJI drone which is superb. I like the slightly smaller package, the mounting system, the touch screens and those pushed me to the DJI. I got it today! Very neat design and tiny in the flesh. Time will tell!
I've been in the GoPro ecosystem for a while and have owned several, but the DJI is awfully tempting. I have had freezing issues with both of my current GoPros and the fact that they haven't upgraded the Max in forever might cause me to get the Osmo4 next.
there not telling you dji is not true 4k its upscaled from 2k
@@topbanana4013 Interesting, I wound up going with the GoPro 12 anyways.
Hmmm, interesting. My A4 overheats on 4K/30 in 18 - 24 Minutes Static. It was fine before I updated the firmware to 01.01.07.30. Oh just noticed there is a new one. Hope that is better
Let us know if the new firmware is better
That's really weird. When I tested mine in 4K/30 it went for 7 hours and I just stopped recording as I saw no point in continuing. Looks like I won't be updating the firmware anytime soon.
Thanks awesome Review !!!$$$ GoPro12 Perfect use 1.9 Action 4 Use 1.3 CRAZY GOOD GOPRO!!!!!
Thanks for the review! Useful information!!
GoPro has much better design … and seems like stabilisation is much better - but this is really it. Possibly some better slomo or 4k, but how much better it is? 😅 … what I am trying to say is if Action 4 a better choice to me … if design and stabilisation can be slightly improved in Action 5 - it will be 100% winner to me.
Sad to see how GoPro went down with Hero 12: they focused and improved only couple things, they could deliver better performance and processor and all those aspects Action 4 and Action 3 has 😢
19:50 Hi, are you sure that the charging case of the Dji really has the 30W fast charge?
Because their website doesn't say so. They offer an extra 30W charger for 19,99€ that they advertise as fast-charging in 18 minutes.
Did you use both?
I got the fast charging stats from DJI, when I charged them in the case we a standard USB charger it was insanely fast even without a 30W brick.
Great Video! I will use an action cam for snowboarding and probably diving (not too deep). Anyone an idea which one I should buy?
As a snowboarder myself I would probably pick the OA4 at this point. Especially switching mounts quickly … this said I have not tested the strength of the magnetic clip on a board and all its vibrations. Helmet shouldn’t be a problem at all though.
@@Joey_Helms Nice, thank you! ☺️
Is the Action 4 still smaller than the GP with the magnetic mounting case?
You only need the case for vertical mounting. And with it the Action 4 is a bit larger than the GP12
In almost every clip osmo gives rolling shutter and shaking. So even if the dynamic range may be better the video seems unusable. The osmo seem over sharpened also.
For fps slow motion which to choose?
dji makes the best digital camera's
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This is an outstanding review. Thank you so much!
gopro good
4:40 It's not magic. GoPro12 forced bit rate to be variable, reason why sometimes the footage appears lower quality than its setting. This is likely the reason why the file size is smaller and how they managed to prolong battery life and somewhat subside overheating issue while using the practically the same physical device.
Thank you for making this informative comparison video. I have been looking for such content since the launch of GoPro Hero 12. 👍🏽
I’m your new subscriber from Thailand. 🇹🇭
Excellent comparison video, after see your review, I decided to upgrade from iPhone+DJI 2 to OA4. Using it for first person view mainly, land and underwater. Low light recording hit me (there’s low light environment all the time). Invisible stick seem pretty cool for skiing, I wonder if my Action Stick would work.
The distortion of gopro 12 is wayyy too much to be acceptable. I really like the magnetic design of action 4 comparing to the screw or gopro's traditional mount. I had an action 3 with the same magnetic mount base and it was so convenient while hiking and biking.
so which one should buy, Gopro or Action ?
I agree, the action 4 is the better buy, better lens and sensor, the rest is software features
@@OmightyOmega you mean we can do the video quality better with editing?
Yeas
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@@FoodStreetRider I'd go for Action 4, but you should make up your own mind ;)
Unbelievable!the footages seems like the cameras were switched🤣🤣 The 2nd Footage looks like the DJi footage🤣 and vice versa 😂😂😂😂 am now thinking about the Hero 12...it seems to me somehow better than the A4
Definitely, DJI has a problem of losing details of the clouds. Detailed cloud ones are from GoPro. Really cheap played
The image quality is better on the GoPro. I only see the Action 4 better at low light and battery life
Yes, the image quality in daylight on GoPro is much better. And this is the most important point. Also, stabilization is better on GoPro. All other things are better on Action 4.
@@mriatravel yeah and the fact that you can connect a Bluetooth mic on it. Also the audio
At 07:13 the GoPro seems to have a better low light performance. The Action 4 has jitters that are very noticeable and annoying. It seems the DJI may be better in low light with very static shots. I’d rather have some noise than those jitters that remind of rolling shutter.
That's a fraud. He deliberately adjusted the parameters to lower OA4. There cannot be such a big difference. I own the OA4 and am very pleased with it, it shoots extremely well in low light.
@@MrNoname56, except for the fact other people complained about DJI doing that jitter/micro stuttering. As stefpix said, it's very annoying and it reminds us of rolling shutter of old GoPro cameras that were almost unusable when filming MTB riding and such.
If you limit the A4 shutter speed to 1/200, increase ISO to 3200 max, and use the lens hood (the lens hood is optional, however it will lower your iso some) you won’t have any EIS issues. He surely knows this but opted not to change the settings for some reason. Or maybe he didn’t know. He said the A4 has a mic on top when all mics are on the bottom. The top is just a speaker. Shows the location of the mics in the manual.
DJI stutter is a real concern, negates it bring an action camera
@@17creamnot if you know how to properly use the camera in those conditions. Just watch Jason Vongs review.
Definitly OA4 ! It rocks.
I bought it when its came out, and I don't regret, even when I can now see the GP12.
Thanks for the video 🙂
actually the lowlight stablizition of low light like Joey mention in 07:08 , DJI turn to keep the image quality with a slow shutter speed like 1/300~1/400, if you wanna a better stablizition in low light, just set the stutter to1/800, but the image will also turn worse, and DJI Have optimize it in the last firmware in 0907.2023 😁😁
i was bought action 4 and i really disapointed about record 1080, very bad, 1080 on action 4 like 720p on DJI pocket 2, 1080 on pocket2 like 2.7k on ac4
I always use my action cam in 4k.
Why should we buy a 4k camera to use it in a 1080p resolution...
do you know i used pocket 2 on hd 1080p for 2 years. I dontt have complant . But now action 4 1080p never like 1080p on pocket 2 really shock@@Fr4p4d1ngu3
I've got the GoPro Hero 9 and thinking of upgrading to the 12, but in literally every comparison shot I preferred the colour of the DJI. Thanks for the review 👌🙏
I have the 8, pre-ordered the 12 cause.... I don't like change. :o) I actually prefer the colors of the GP... seems more vivid to me... brighter? Even with all my new tv's... I quickly choose "vivid" view... I dunno.
@@1999maio I know what you mean, I don't like change either, I've got all the accessories for GoPro and it'll be a complete faff to change 🤦♂ I definitely preferred the DJI colours though, I liked the contrast. I hope you enjoy the 12!
@@ChrisBranch we’ll see…. Headed to the Bahamas October 5… item “claims” to ship September 13th.. we’ll see….it’ll be close
@@1999maio oh wow, hope you get it in time! 🤞
get OA4 and thank me later
When it comes to overheating, I think DJI really takes advantage of its magnetic mount system.
I think they use the mount system to redirect some heat from the sensor.
Can't state it as a fact, but the mount on my Osmo Action 3 feels quite warm after filming 4k 120
that would be genius to just increse the thermal mass to store and disapate heat. but with plastiks that doesn't sound very efektiv because of its poor thermal transfere rates.
That's good possible. I was even surprised that GoPro didn't made any adjustments yet to their case. Like this is the 4th case already which is exactly the same and has overheating issues. Verry strange that they keep it like this for so long while they know about the issues.
They now probably reduced some processing software wise on the 12. But why not just bringing more metal heatsinks to the outer shell. Really don't understand this after 4 versions now...
@@spacy5896'efektiv' 😂😂
Effective*
I've had GoPro and Osmo Action and Insta 360 cameras. Each has its advantages, but the most reliable has always been DJI. In heat and cold, GoPro suddenly turns itself off, freezes relatively often. DJI (1st generation OA) not the best picture but always reliable. If I press REC then I will have a guaranteed recording.
I love GoPro and recently picked up the OA4. Yeah, the stabilization on the OA4 during low light isn't the best but I can tell you personally that the OA4 wins in just about every other category. I know you people who have been GoPro fans have a hard time accepting that there is a new action camera king and I had a hard time accepting that also. But truthfully, accepting change won't be as hard once you start using the OA4. The camera is a beast and a game changer. Try it out unbiasedly and you'll be blown away.
Eh the stabilization in this comparison was not great even when he was just walking. I have a Hero 9 but I'll wait to see what happens next year.
@@Broba_Fett there is one more mode.... Rocksteady + which he wasn't using. There is a big difference with that more. But I use Rocksteady and it works great for me. The OA4 is currently the GoPro killer. I hope the GP13 is significantly better when it comes out. Personally, I'm staying with the OA4 till then
DJI Have optimize it in the last firmware in 0907.2023 😁😁
@@Broba_Fett just set the shutter speed to 1/600 or 1/800, all your problems of OA4 will solved
Im not having a hard time accepting there's an action camera better then the gopro. Im having a hard time finding the evidence, because it wasnt in this video. I dont know what you guys were watching. Seriously.
I would just like to say that this is the first comment section on a video that is not full of fanboys bashing the other company in unreasonable ways. Sure! Go ahead and state why you picked one, if you are running into issues with how you use a GoPro then sure I think that is relevant. However, different people have different issues, preferences and different things that they like about the different cameras.
Too many people I see are basing the decision like this. (From my perspective without bothering to make it sound polite, I do acknowledge that most comments are more polite than this.)
"GoPro is unreliable, DJI has bigger sensor therefor better sensor. DJI NEVER has ANY issues. Therefor DJI Action 4 is OBJECTIVELY better for EVERYONE."
I get some people have had issues with GoPro, some issues happen regularly for some people. However, not everyone will run into those issues and a bigger sensor is not always better, or at least not better in every way. For example GoPro has a different aspect ratio for the sensor, some people will use that aspect ratio and benefit from it more than a bigger sensor.
I also have a Hot Take for everyone to bash me about. :) (no joke go ahead and make fun of me LOL) In a lot of the Action 4 v GP 11/12 low light tests I actually would rather work with the GoPro in more cases then the DJI. GoPro picks a point at which they just give up on placing detail in the shadows, whereas DJI does have detail, yes, To me it just looks noisy/grainy. I would rather work with a darker image than a poor looking brighter image. The DJI sensor might let more light in but in a lot of cases the processing just does not know how to make that light good. After thought, the well lit areas of the images are both useable to an extent when colour grading anyway. Please, go ahead and bash me ;)
Edit: The footage in this video is not the case, at least in the shadows in normal light.
I was going for the GoPro, but apparently it shuts off when it gets too hot (and you lose your data and/or video). So, I am going for the Action 4.
This will be the first time getting a small camera of this magnitude since my first purchase of the Flip Mino HD years ago 😂💀
GoPro has GoPro Labs which unlocks so many more features and capabilities it makes OA4 nowhere close to being a decent competitor.
GoPro 12 for me. I use my camera for mountain biking and the wider FOV, better dynamic range, better stabliaztion, better video quality, better picture quality, better slowmo, 8:7 sensor, and more video options makes it a winner for me.
When I tried using the OA4 the smaller FOV didn't capture as much as I would like and would cut off a lot of the trail. Also, they say OA4 is better in low light, but when I went into wooded areas the stablization would go to crap and I would get a lot of mico gitters, which you can see in Joey's videos. Makes the video unsable.
So, if you do any type of action sports, or vlogging go with the GoPro.
I've just cycled across Africa for 7 months using a osmo action 3 and not a single problem. So many things I didn't miss to record because I had this camera.
One friend joined for a few months with a gopro and he had so many freezing and overheating issues... also the he missed a lot shots because of the time reaction.
Osmo action is a rock 💪🏽
Your content is awesome! This review here alone made me decide on the DJI. Thank you!
That sounds like an epic trip!
very strange conclusion tbh. if you need an action camera - again gopro is the best choice . if you need something to shoot vlogs on - buy dji.
Tbf faster charging speed degrades batteries much quicker
Which camera to buy? Neither. Im waiting for Pocket 3. I already have Gopro 11 and Go 3. Guess which one i usually use? Its not the GoPro. Go 3 is just so fun and easy to use.
I've got the Pocket 2. Seems DJI has abandoned it. No new firmware upgrades. No word on the imaginary Pocket 3. No more DJI for me. Though P2 has been a very solid camera, excellent in the dark.
@@DrivingPhilippines There some recent leaks about Pocket 3. Someone spotted a DJI employee testing it in the wild. You can search for a channel called It's Sky. He covered it recently.
The worst thing about the GoPro is turning it off when it gets hot, and in tropical countries it can't handle 2 dry batteries without getting hot and turning off the second battery with approximately 38% of charge used. I take 20 batteries in the GoPro 11 for a day of filming because it gets too hot. What do you have to say about the osmo 4 regarding this?
Great review, thanks. Watched a few of those the last days and you pointed out some things the others didn't like file size, performance in the cold (which was a huge problem withe 11),... Am using the camera for skiing videos and will get the 12.
Still wondering though if the cold performance will be any better as a huge factor there is the wind chill, which you don't get in the freezer. The 11 shut down after 2-5 mins below -10 with wind chill.
May be only with Rock steady turned off. I was driving through a wood with the A4, 4k 60fps and rocksteady, it was getting darker, and suddenly the imagequality gets very bad, washed out, the picture was shaking. Never had this with the G11
3:04 stood out to me.... while taking steps on the street... the shoe in movement was blurry with the action4... clear as day with GP..... I prefer brighter more vivid colors... pre-ordered the 12...
Interesting you said that. I checked and it looks like image blur. Almost like it’s two different fps
mostly all reviews are not telling the truth about dji action 4 i found a few honest reviews, the 4k is not true 4k in forums there are complaints its upscaled from 2k
I've got a gopro it's junk overheating problems constantly, if the dji doesn't over heat , batteries last longer and charge faster I'm going to get a dji no brainer .
One thing that I noticed after watching this comparison video. Is that everyone is saying that the Osmo action has vetter lowlight capabilities than the gopro. But what good is the lowlights capabilities if it falls apart without the stability. On the other hand the gopro maintains the lowlight capabilities olong with the stabilization. . This is huge for anyone that love the outdoors or like shooting car Videos
Personally I think these cameras are neck and neck. DJI has convenience features and low light. GP has slow mo and overall video quality. Provided you're using the camera in an active situation, the battery life is very close. Personally dji has a blue tint that I dont like. Their daytime video don't meet my needs
you left out the apps part. I went from GoPro to Dii just because the apps on phone/iPad are way better and faster.
I have the GoPro 11 Camera - I am buying the GoPro 12
Super happy action 4 owner, ease of use, RELIABILITY, bigger sensor, and with the last firmware update (two days ago) better stabilization
As a Hero 10 user, the most unreliable camera of the last 3 years. I haven't lost footage at all despite filling 4 TB of data in very important trips that I couldn't possibly recover. In particular a trip to Italy. So reliability is important for sure, but in my opinion the concerns are overblown.
@@ariescorner7655 I’ve lost zero footage on my Go Pro 10 and as long as you’re familiar with it’s shortcomings you can adjust how you record. I was aware of the over heating issues on previous models but thought the 10 fixed it and boy I was wrong. The shorter battery life was awful in 4k60 compared to my OG Osmo Action. The first time I rode with my DJI I kept thinking the battery had died because after an hour I didn’t hear any beeps or anything. After those first 60 mins i had to keep looking in the mirror to see if the light was still on and it was. Got a good 75 mins worth and no issues while recording at home. It just worked and I didn’t need to adjust to anything unlike the Go Pro. This is the reason I switched to a MacBook Pro cause Windows had too many issues and I’ve been in IT for over 20 years.
When Go Pro solves its over heating issues and improves it battery life I’m going to get the DJI. Not sure what I’m gonna do with my Hero 10 but maybe I can use it as a front facing camera on the bike and lower the resolution to match with the DJI battery life on 4k60.
@@ariescorner7655 i can’t tell you cause the action 4 is my very first action cam but before i bought it i made a loooong research over the net and here on yt, and found hundreds and hundres of comments where gopro users complain about freezins, lost of footage, ridicolous battery life, so went for action 4 and i could be more than happy for my decision.
@@ariescorner7655My hero 10 hasn’t lost footage but it likes to overheat if I look at it a wrong way.
To my eyes the osmo is maybe on kar with my hero 9. I really don't see these two as competitors. The 11 was already better than the Osmo for the most part. The GP12 is however a bit of a disappointment unless GP release a dedicated Bluetooth mic for it that delivers great audio. The airpods thing is just a pointless gimmick and really bad.
I think that using mic audio from the AirPods is a bad idea for 99% of cases if not more. But the wireless Communications with your GoPro from places that your actual GoPro cannot hear you would be pretty useful. Also if you can use actual bluetooth mics, that would be the point I would actually use it.
Thanks for a great comparison, from a new Subscriber and fellow RUclipsr.
Thanks a million! 🙌
I have the OA3. I was wondering just how good the 12 is before I get the OA4. Being GoPro is more widely available, especially the batteries!!! I will be sticking with the dji! I love the disconnection and the front touch screen. Good comparison!
Stabilization wins it for me. Gopros stabilization is clearly better. I actually want to use my camera while I’m moving outside.
too much stabilisation kill the action ! not a criteria for me
So vid conclude dji is better on low light gopro12 is better on stabilization dji is better on audio and we have to choose a camera that’s suits that person
Thank you for video but can you make another video after 6months which one you use more (and how you use ex. Indoor, bike, daytime etc.. )
Thanks again
Thanks! Will defo keep you all posted. Either with an updated video or with a pinned comment on my long term experience.
Go Pro is the clear winner.
The magnetic mounting is a big advantage for the action 4.
The inexpensive magnetic mount for the GoPro takes care of that problem.
I was going to buy Action 4, but after watching this video, I doubt about this, and more inclined to buy GoPro only for one reason: image quality in daylight. The GoPro 11 and 12 is a clear winner in this category, and this is the most important category. Another huge advantage of GoPro 12 is the option to use ear plugs as a microphone. I like it so much, because it's convenient and there is no need to buy an expensive external microphone.
I went for the action - only because of my drones are Mavics and wanna use this on FPV so easier to grade in post. Great review as always
The stabilisation on DJI is much worse than the one on GoPro. That's how I figured out which camera is which in the beginning. The other aspect is the HDR part, on GoPro you could see a lot more of the highlights or dark parts (see for instance also 12:07, you have a way better dynamic range on GoPro, you see all those details of the clouds while DJI's clounds are just gray). Too bad it does worse in dark scenes, but I would guess it is less likely to film in the dark. On daytime, I would pick GoPro for sure, you get extremely good stabilisation and very good image; imagine filming on you bike helmet or while skiing. If I may suggest an improvement: please don't change the position of the products; omce you have GoPro on the right, keep it consistent, always on the right; sometimes you film them inverted and itncan get confusing.
I just switched from GoPro to DJI a day ago. I’m still working through it but it’s been good thus far. You kind of glossed through the timecode features. Can you please see if the GoPro 12 can be jam synced from an external timecode generator? I know you can do that with the GP 11 and labs firmware, but GoPro told me that you can’t do that on the 12… you can only sync timecode via QR Code which there’s only one timecode generator that has that integrated into their time bar app (Tentacle Sync).
Torn because the GoPro seems quicker to get a ready to use image but is missing GPS.
DJI seems better but that low light stabilization is trash, so maybe an update can correct it
I’m happy they took GPS off the 12. Should save battery life that was being hogged up with GPS which has never been necessary for me.
If you're seeing this, you're awesome.
I picked the GoPro 12.
i have gopro hero 9. maybe will buy osmo 4 if i want to upgrade
If you never seen anyone with the action four, don’t trust it although I would never doubt you, my favorite RUclipsr
My use case scenario ( Motorcycle helmet + walkaround/modifying/fixing bike ) requires a camera that works. An action camera that will actually do its job EVERY time I ask it to do that job. So Action 4. The gP12 is a better camera as a camera. As a tool to get footage though it is not as good as the action. And that is something gopro didnt really address. I am currently running a hero 4 silver and ( used to ) GP7 black. So either one will be a massive upgrade but the hero 4 has never let me down. The gp7 constantly let me down which is why I am wary of gopro. This is unfortunate as the gopro is about 200 dollars cheaper like for like ( 2 batteries etc ) here in Oz. Good indepth video with no force fed conclusions 👍
realy great comparison impresiv how good they are now.
personaly I have to say I like the more fildert/noise reduced soud from the gopro better.
The magnetic mount isn't a k.o. kriteria for me becaus for the gopro you can buy a 16€ feet repacement thats a 3 in 1 withe the adition of the dji magnetic mount.
as a diver the water tightnes ratings aren't important for me becaus I need the underwater case anyway.
the lowlight of the dji is devinitly impresif for sutch a small camera.
for me its going to be the gopro bescaus of the more options and the huge aftermarket acesorie market for them
The stabilization of Action 4 in the dark is a deal breaker. It's just unacceptable...
I had GoPro 11, it is great action cam, but after I had watched your video, I think I would try DJI Action 4.
Thanks mate… I’ve seen several comparisons and though I’ve always been a GoPro user I think I’ll have to go with dji now… a shame they haven’t keep up with the improvements
Fucking incredible review! Thank you so much
DJI Action 4 Is the Best Camera
All over Go pro is best action camera❤ & best comparison so far. Thanks from Bangladesh🇧🇩
Shortly I will buy go pro 11.
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I would recommend going for the Hero 12. Unless the price difference is actually an issue for you. Or just get the GoPro subscription for the $100 USD discount. Still works out a bit cheeper I believe, I might be wrong about that last option though.
Dumped GoPro for DJI a long time ago, in a different league, main benefit is the reliability. Never had an issue with DJI I could bore you with the software and firmware issues with GoPro, as I motovlog it’s far more important than any low light performance. Want a camera to perform in low light use a DSLR. Good review, one of the best I’ve seen…
Thank you. A good overview. I want to say that GoPro has a terribly ugly design. I don't want to hold this dirty thing in my hands. And a terrible fish eye. I want the camera to show night at night and day at day. And this is natural. I've never liked GoPro. My choice is DJI. This is my camera and I am very happy.
Looks like GoPro has indesputably better stab in low light - question is is it due to Osmo not cranking up the shutter speed so high in low light - it shoots less noisy footage, but stab fails, or is it due to GoPro finally figuring it out how to deal with low light. My Hero10 behaves exactly like Osmo4 in low light, possibly even worse - lights are jumping randomly, and weird smears all over
It definitely looks like a shutter speed issue.
no debate even gopro 11 still can beat osmo action 4, i've decided to buy already the gopro 11, i think im enough to have just dji action 2 then for another action cam gopro image quality and image still are beast, because when you are in vehicle the stabilize and sharpness from gopro is consistenly. and also the image ratio 8:7 sensor is my reason why pick gopro as daily driver action cam. because you just need to record 1 time to record a footage for youtube and social media platform
I think being a Gopro user that because it’s new we also need to give it some time as new updates come to play just like with OA4 I have Osmo pocket and for low light works great and I am a DJI believer I own their Drones no one can beat them , Joey thanks for making this video as you break it down in categories very well.Also FYI if you are a subscriber than it’s $299.00 US.
I’m a huge cyclist and the fact the Go Pro Hero 12 removed the GPS chip this years is a deal breaker. Me and other members in our cycling clubs use the gps data for training. It’s a shame because I was def looking to upgrade from the Hero 9 Black and take advantage of the Go Pro subscription deal smh.
Get the hero 11 it’s basically the same and has gps
@@MelissaAndAlex I’m wondering if you can use the Max Lens 2.0 in the Hero 10/11.
I always turn off GPS to save battery, it's an unnecessary feature but battery life is.
Same for me. I like mountainbiking, and build in GPS in an action cam ist mandatory.
If you have an iPhone and Apple Watch, all the GPS data you would need is in there now with iOS 17
Acton 4, no doubts, reliable, beautiful underwater, best menu system, low’light, quick magnetic mount. No need for gimmicky features, fake HDR nor higher res on such small action anyway.
Great video. Can I ask why the insta360 one RS doesn’t seem to make it into a lot of recent comparisons of the major brands these days ? I’m considering picking up the One RS to give them a try as they are a seemingly very versatile camera.
You'll have your own use cases, but just to say the marketing from Insta360 is a powerful thing, the cameras themselves are more limited than they appear. I have just returned my X3 after playing around with it for a few days.
The videos look ok on your phone, but viewing them on anything larger looks pretty rubbish. I just got an X3 for our trip where we'll be doing lots of travelling around in the car, cities etc, but lots of snorkelling too. The quality when doing 360 video was poor (while it boasts 5.7K, you need to remember this is stretched around a sphere, and the usable resolution is only 1080p), lots of artefacts, way over-sharpened and lacking in detail. The real dealbreaker was despite the camera being marketed as an action camera for water (the front of the box shows a stylised shot of the camera underwater), 360 video does NOT work underwater, you require the Invisible Dive case for this, which is an extra £100 and not available yet. I'm now trying to decide between the GoPro 12 and the OA4, hence being here!
@@o0GoldSoundz0o thanks for the detailed reply! appreciated. still unsure on which camera I will opt for as well.
gp12 all the way
FAKE it not real!!!!! action 4 the best!
The picture from the OA4 is more organic which is indicative of a larger sensor with larger pixels to produce better image quality. The Hero 12 has a sort of smartphone look to it IMO. Kind of like how Arri cameras used to use 1080p 35mm sensors but had amazing picture quality
You can see at 3:38 action 4 stabilisation is much worse than GoPro’s. Im ditching my action 4
I ask all of you why do you promote gopro ? Don't buy a gopro, it's fragile. They promote their products like it's durable but my gopro 11 didn't survive a mild accident and you can't repair your gopro if there's a small problem. Buying a gopro is wasting your money &energy.
I'm invested in the GoPro ecosystem, but do I like the low light capabilities of the DJI and the snap mount system. Maybe GoPro will add a larger sensor next year.
So the low light performance in motion - in normal use - is actually better on the GoPro…? The GP12 clearly has superior low light performance under stabilisation. The dynamic range looks much better. For static images the OA4 looks great but these are ACTION cameras. This review is vastly different conclusion to many others I’ve seen. Were the exposure settings/modes identical in these tests?
I have a Hero 11. I also have a DJI Mic that I can exclusively use with the Action 4, hence getting the action 4. also, i can shoot with the 11 next to the action 4 for overall good video.
GOPRO VS DJI
WHO WILL BE THE FIRST TO ADD BACKGROUND BLUR MODE
(i believe they knew that would be whole new relovutionary)
Hahah i have been wondering that since the iPhone introduced it 😂
I would rather a separate but similar camera line with the option of controlling focus. Or the same line but with an actual manual focus option rather than a software blur. But either would be great.
action 4 might have features on paper, but the real usage is just sooo much cleaner on gopro
1. stabilization on go pro seems better for both light and dark scenarios.
2. the connection app of go pro Quick (4.8 star) is miles away from the action with 3.1 star reviews :D I personally wouldn't buy a device that has a poor mobile support (looking at you sony :/ ). Why to bother if you then can shoot on your phone 95% time and share instantaneously.
The DJI action 4’s microphones are all on the bottom. If you look at the manual it identifies the location of all. The top of the Action 4 is a speaker only, not a microphone.
This is the worst comparison I have ever seen from a Go Pro FANBOY. The OA 4 Is obviously the better camera. Even using a scuffed-up OA4 in this review was biased. Glossing over the 22 min run-time of the GoPro was Sheer BS. You couldn't do a worse review if you tried.
I think you should put a higher ISO on the DJI when is dark so it can stabilize better, as it has a bigger sensor, it should not get more noisy.
hope you are right, i was thinking the same and i-m about to buy the OA4.
Yes, it's strange that a camera with a bigger sensor has darker images on many episodes of this video.
I've seen really dark footage perfectly stabilized with de OA3, but you need to go with a higher ISO, because otherwise it starts to decrease the shutter speed, and the result is what you see in this video
I have a gp11,image quality and stabilisation exceptionally good,reliability ok,doesn't like cold and I've pulled the battery twice in 18 months. Now the osmo wins in all other areas and i do wish someone could combine both,up to now nobody has....we wait.
That's some testing that you have done for the video Sir. The cameras speaks the effort. Thank you very much. Wishes for your growth Sir
No GPS for the Hero12 ! its a no go
Thanks for this review! Really very helpful. I just started using GoPro 8s for work (wildlife biologist) and I like them, but the Action 4 seems like a better buy for a novice like me.
dji osmo 4 it's a beast!!!
I honestly looking at everything! I think the gopro 12 takes the Win 🏆
I have to ask, what is the stuff on the lens ring on the Osmo in this video? It seemingly changes in appearance in different views on the video, at times looking clean, then looking like it has a thick coating of dust like the vent from a clothes dryer and even looking like it was a liquid in one shot. Maybe it needed a quick wipe down before shooting?
As I already said before, all the cool stuff like the magnetic mount means nothing if the image quality is rubbish and it is rubbish on DJI.