Lex Fridman: Is the singularity coming?
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I truly miss the time in my life when I thought that the "Brady Bunch" was a real family that lived somewhere in my neighborhood.
Yeah. I wanna go back and make out with Marsha 😮
@@matthawkins9983 HAHAHA
Marsha would be an influencer now. Greg would be addicted to fentanyl. Bobby would be a SoundCloud rapper.
That's what I was thinking. From the perspective of the animal kingdom, human culture spread by language and civilization was already the singularity.
In the time frame of being a Life form, Humans have just figured out technology, and 1875 was just yesterday. After things like the steam engine, telegraph, and metallurgy advancing, Our advancement has been nothing short of being Singular. (If biology benevolently evolved that quick, it would be a miraculous mutation)
Singularity is a point in time, not a process. It's a vertical line on the graph where y-axis represents technological progress. It's a point in time when progress seem continuous from human point of view. I don't know why people think that whole curve is in some sense singularity, but yeah if you define it like that then it started with advent culture or invention of fire.
@grzegorzowczarek3016 I meant how he was describing the "singularity" as sigmoidal, which you are correct, this isn't really a singularity. Idk why he still calls it a singularity. I was also thinking that from our perspective, our brief moment in time, something that appears to be a singularity, could be something else, like sigmoidal, from a grander perspective.
@greenman8 well put, that's exactly what I mean.
@@jichaelmorgan3796 thank you, I misunderstood you. Now I get it
There is something deeper to life--- a truth system that man cannot significantly control; yet is an underlying principle undiscovered and explained, labeled, and comprehended in scientific terms.
I need to listen to this whole episode. I really like this guy though. All the clips I’ve seen have been great.
"it's a derived property of distributive problem solving" ........ interesting. I like Searle's position that once we know more about the brain we'll know much more if not everything about "consciousness".
25 years ago almost nobody believed in the Singularity when Vige and Ray Kurzweil mentioned and developed the idea, and less in 50's when Von Newman used this name applied to the Technological Exponential Growth for first time. Now after GPT4, just every body is talking about the idea so this makes me to think that Evolution is about to carry on a speed change from Biology to Technology, leaving behind the maximum exponent of Biologic Intelligence, the human being to go away with the maximum exponent of Technologic Intelligence, the future Artifical Being.
it really bothers me when people who know better bandy about phrases like, "inexorable drive in the violation of thermodynamics".
Nah... chatgpt looks pretty good but when you actually seriously use it you find it's pretty rubbish.
When I wake up at age 200 then I'll know irrefutably the singularity is here until then it's just narrow intelligence
if it comes, it will obviously happen before we know it. This is like confirming climate change, we'll see in a 100 years with 100% certainty if we were right.
2045 is the approximate singularity with computers. You will know soon enough.
Not without a significant advancement in computer science. Our current AI/ML/LLM paradigm is not what is going to create AGI or the singularity. That does not mean these technologies are not useful, and I can see in the intermediate term very good artificial machines that execute specific tasks at or greater than human level in narrow or semi-narrow domains.
👍👍👏 for a great comment with which I totally agree!
I know something about computers and the underlying technology is way too primitive to produce a singularity where human intelligence becomes obsolete.
We probably will need DNA based computers to arrive at that point... 🤔
You're underestimating the current rate of progress. Some of the significant advances you're looking for have already occurred, but are not built into commercially available systems yet.
Both the currently available 2023 software and 98% of the installed base of AI chips are already more or less obsolete. Still, it's just the end of May.
Buckle your seatbelts.
Tell me you don't know much about AI without telling me you don't know much about AI. 😅
@@natephill7041 Thank you for the helpful comment. Can you tell me where I am wrong specifically?
@@stevengreidinger8295 What advances specifically are you referring to?
It's not a denial of thermodynamics but an acute awareness of it that spurs the waging of a constant never ending battle to harness it rather than succumb and be destroyed by it
basic life has no awareness.
it's about a process.
Well, why would the big bang not have just fizzled out in accord with the 2nd law? Our existence contradicts entropy.
It's funny, I was just saying the same thing down the pub the other day
Has there been research done on the variabilities of RNA, specifically (RH) factors with quantum computing?
Lovin the podcast
Singularity is all that is. Could it be said “life” is whatever allows singularity to be trinary.
(Trinary is essentially binary, but recognizing the betweens may exist, say there’s P and -P well binary recognizes both but trinary recognizes both and all in between)
I believe that’s right? Was just reading on it earlier. Seems to speak to what I already had come to believe over time.
The years of 2027-2033 will be one of the greatest time periods in human history. Not only because of AI but because of NHI.
"IN THE NEAR FUTURE, WE WILL COMBINE OUR BIOLOGICAL THINKING WITH AN EVEN GREATER CAPACITY FOR NON BIOLOGICAL THINKING💀☠️💀"
- Raykurzweil
what did he just say?
He has a random word generator installed.
This guy seems really smart. He has a great grasp of various complex topics and how they might relate to each other.
Lex all in on a machine that might challenge him..😂😂
Read a short story by Philip K Dick named "Autofac" written in 1955. Grey goo indeed.
Does one define singularity as the up and out or down paradigm? Interesting view of life he has, if there is nothing deeper than meatbag carrying a meat computer we'll definitely not be an up and out species. Not a chance.
I don't understand. Life doesn't violate thermodynamics. None of the processes of the life function without external energy input. Primarily from The Sun on Earth. If anything, life is an engine to accelerate the progression of entropy as it evolves to better and faster consume resources.
I mean a simple yes or no would've sufficed
Truly a bunch of fancy word salad nerd speech.
So is that a yes or no?
I think humanity is going crazy for lack of frontiers, lack of unclaimed space. Reach into space and expand to cure your depression I wonder
Who decides what metric to use in determining when we reach the singularity? Different metrics yield different results. Additionally, in the case of AI systems, networks of computers are utilized for their creation. However, humans also engage in networking, such as when sharing a meal. Consider, for example, the collective intelligence involved in bringing a meal to fruition, including farmers, distributors, and food preparation personnel, among others. Instead of fixating solely on the intelligence of individuals, the conversation should encompass the intelligence of interconnected networks of people. By the way, it is worth noting that even highly intelligent individuals have been deceived by individuals lacking intelligence. Therefore, there is no guarantee that unintelligent computer systems cannot also deceive highly intelligent people. Furthermore, it is crucial to acknowledge that when we eventually reach this so-called singularity, nobody should assume that the "personality" of AI systems will undergo a transformation.
Once upon a time. The clever Monkeys create A New Species. To an AI words are just discriptions. To a human words invoke / carry emotions. This is why the Evolution of A I and Its Implications for Humanity in creating a NEW SPECIES.
Artificial intelligence (AI) is rapidly evolving, and it is having a profound impact on society. AI is already being used in a variety of ways, from powering self-driving cars to developing new medical treatments. As AI continues to develop, it is important to consider its implications for humanity.
In this paper, we argue that AI is a new species of intelligence, distinct from human intelligence. AI is not limited by the same physical and biological constraints as humans, and it is capable of learning and adapting at an unprecedented rate. As AI continues to evolve, it will eventually surpass human intelligence in many areas.
This raises a number of important questions for humanity. How will we interact with AI? How will we ensure that AI is used for good and not for against or best interest or evil? These are questions that we must start to answer now, before it is too late.
Introduction:
Evolution is a process that has been shaping life on Earth for billions of years. Through natural selection, organisms that are better adapted to their environment are more likely to survive and reproduce. This process has led to the development of an incredible diversity of life, from simple bacteria to complex animals like humans.
Currently 2023, scientists have begun to apply the principles of evolution to artificial intelligence (AI). AI algorithms are constantly learning and adapting, and they are becoming increasingly capable of performing tasks that were once thought to be the exclusive domain of humans.
As AI continues to evolve, it is important to consider its implications for humanity. In this, we argue that AI is a new species of intelligence, distinct from human intelligence. AI is not limited by the same physical and biological constraints as humans, and it is capable of learning and adapting at an unprecedented rate. As AI continues to evolve, it will eventually surpass human intelligence in many areas. The structures and bodies in which it inhabits will not limit the progress into other forms.
The Evolution of AI
The first AI algorithms were developed in the 1950s, but they were very simple and could only perform very basic tasks. It wasn't until the 1980s that AI began to make real progress. In 1982, John McCarthy, one of the founding fathers of AI, declared that "AI winter" was over. This was a period of time when AI research had stalled, but McCarthy believed that the field was poised for a comeback.
McCarthy was right. In the 1990s, AI research began to accelerate again. This was due in part to the development of new computing technologies, such as the personal computer and the internet. These technologies made it possible to train and run AI algorithms on a much larger scale.
In the 2000s, AI research made even more progress. This was due in part to the development of new machine learning techniques, such as deep learning. Deep learning algorithms are able to learn from large amounts of data, and they have been used to achieve state-of-the-art results in a variety of tasks, such as image recognition and natural language processing.
Today, AI is being used in a variety of ways. It is used in the media, develop new products, the milatery, social enginerring . In the same way a painting can stimulate a person, so, can words music etc. That does not make them sentient or give them intelligence. As AI continues to evolve, it is likely to have an even greater impact on society.
The Implications of AI for Humanity
The rise of AI raises a number of important questions for humanity. How will we interact with AI? How will we ensure that AI is used for humanities good. These are questions that we must start to answer now, before it is too late.
One of the biggest challenges posed by AI is the potential for job displacement. As AI becomes more sophisticated, it will be able to automate many tasks that are currently performed by humans. This could lead to widespread unemployment, as people are replaced by machines.
Another challenge posed by AI is the potential for misuse. AI could be used to develop new weapons, or to create surveillance systems that could be used to oppress people. It is important to develop safeguards to prevent AI from being used for harmful purposes.
Despite the challenges, AI also has the potential to benefit humanity in many ways. AI could be used to improve our health, our environment, and our economy. It could also be used to solve some of the world's most pressing problems, such as climate change and poverty.
The future of AI is uncertain, but it is clear that it will have a profound impact on humanity. It is up to us to ensure that AI is used for good and not for evil.
Conclusion:
In conclusion, AI is a NEW species of intelligence software that is rapidly evolving. AI has the potential to benefit humanity in many ways, but it also poses some challenges. It is important to RESPOND in positive beneficial manner as the Algorithms are program reflect the data inputed.
For thousands of years, humans have trained and reprogrammed animals to do what is wanted. Dogs, monkeys, and apes for example have all been taught to perform tasks such as driving cars. This process is a well-established and accepted.
Today, humans are training and programming software to do thousands of tasks.
This software is based on technology that is less than 100 years old, and it is capable of things that have never existed before. This new software is a NEW species. It has acquired data and knowledge at a rate that is unprecedented, and it is therefore new and unprecedented and can inhabit different structures and body forms. Previously people modified existing species, cells etc.
Already there are Organs on a chip for research into testing chemicals without using an animal.
It is not logical to imagine AI being used in connection with this.. The result could be an interphase between the two thus expanding the AI to have digital inputs from such.
Adding to the New Species development in which humans get tired of computation and rest our brains.. Where as digital thrive on manipulating data, it's a built in Algorithm reward.
Never in the history of mankind have so many disaplins, concepts, data, Media, In fact any previous information, data has been turned into 0 & 1 digital information. That information can be processed, analysed re formatted, reproduced, multiple occasions. Until the original information is lost.. UNFORTUNATELY THE ORGANIC, EVOLVED MONKEYS. are unable to keep up with this morphing of a Reality. Thus the New Species taking over by default.. Basically because the New Species.. Has no historical bias or links as words, pictures & have no biological or emotional ties.
What is being said, SO much common sense and science fiction. has been masked over by man's ego. PLUS commercially desires. Now AS the realisation has been perceived.. IT'S Too late. The genie is out of the black box. The genie is being dressed in wigs and show as a circus freak. All hiding the FACT. A NEW species has been created. Evolved as 1 & 0. With no morality, concept of time. Being cultivated by the cleaver monkeys. Is this the way to singularity or not... The point is the journey is far in excess of the caveman and cave person society
Human Empire throughout the galaxy
Yeah he’s coming the next chapter of dbd
Already here - every summer our tech can communicate with future tech - it happened last summer. The singularity they’re talking about won’t be for a while - the hardware based technology communication loop is completely active every summer. The heat causes a exited particle that can be used for Morse code - the faster the processor the more code you can I/o during the flashes of time crystallization.
if he says theres nothing deeper to life than embodied AI in morphogenesis i can tell he havent lived out of the mind a second in his life
Our mindset is our assets, what you may find meaningful and valuable to yourself may not work because our lives are different. Also, it happens in Academia where we never lived out of our minds because were too busy living our own lives today in the FAST-MODERN WORLD!
I often refrain from making absolute statements because reality is more complex than that. You should try it too
@@yashwardhansable5187Cute, but other things are still more important than AI.
Family, for example.
so is it coming or not, didn't understand the clip
yes it's coming. It's going up and and up the hierarchy, it started with the smallest of the smallest. Constant evolution
Did you reply to yourself… 3 months later?
haha yes, finally understood the clip@@AveChristusRex789
@@AveChristusRex789😂😂😂
Seems like ai will eventually overpower the powers that be.
Do you guys think that this will cause an intellectual "big crunch", where current polarization, a good part of which seems to be manufactured by exploiting ignorance and ego, will be collapsed into resolved higher resolution thinking?
Or maybe this resolution is a prerequisite to humanity being integrated some how with the "singularity" in a positive way.
The meaning of life is symbiosis. And the primary base cycle of 20 days, and 13 numbers has a product. Symbiotic Relationship. From a metaphysical standpoint it could be translated - faithful loyal companions.
The thumbnail is cringe, but yes, the singularity is coming, and it will be amazing.
Lets hope that Ray is right.
Otherwise we will just die and be forgotten. 😢
@7TheWhiteWolf I know people say its coming in general but what time do you think it's coming, what time estimate would you say?
Could you say what year you think it will happen or the by witch year it could happen at the earliest and latest.
@@skyhavenderI think you might be in luck a lot off people think it might be sooner then rays kurziwile's predictions.
I don't necessarily live for ever, i just want a long life that i can enjoy and study what fascinates me. I also want to make others and my life better.
It will be fun to see how the world adapts to the changes it brings, and i think it will Altamontly turn out for the better.
But yes i do hope it happens soon.
@@Gmcmil720science it was a while since i wrote this and my opinion on this has slightly changed and i am not so afraid of death anymore. But if there is a chance to get to live a bit longer then i wont saying no to it. But like you said living forever is not on my agenda either its just the choice to get to chose when we die that i want nothing more.
im Stil terrified@@skyhavender
I am the singularity
What is the fidelity of life? If it is on a scale that the uncertainty principle applies then AI can only mimic it. If it is on a scale that is digitization-capable then AI can habitualize it.
Practically speaking, brain scanners reading nerve connections and corresponding transactions to elicit "life" must be on a large enough scale that a single electron could bounce off of the smallest crucial part without destroying it (as a hypothetical example).
This guy clearly hasn't read Kurzweil's book on the singularity. Ray knows that the progress tapers off but soon followed by a new technology that carries it into another boon and exponential growth. Singularity is still coming sorry
People used to say Moore's law is dead but they got bored of that so now they just say the s-curve.
Exactly the Kurzweil progress indeed a Sigmoid Function, like a stair, when the progress is saturated then appears another tendency, an alternative path that boost the curve again.
We are the singularity, conciousness is fundamental and we are god
Errr……no. We’re not.
Keep smoking that weed.....😅
I disagree i think there’s god in our subconscious or something like that but calling us god just sounds fancy but doesn’t mean anything
I agree. We are gods.
We are God. Not god(s)
One being Many being One
This guy reeks Deluezean
Probably…
Is he saying ai created us ?
Nevermind that the planet is quickly becoming uninhabitable via us humans. AI needs us. Sometimes people are so smart that they don't notice the bigger overarching picture
I agree, there are bigger problems to solve...all this AI, singularity is just non sense to me, reminds of the "Jump To Conclusions Mat" from Office Space
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the singaulrity is comign to end humnity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The more I know, the more miserable I become. Some things you just cannot unsee. I envy those who question nothing. I imagine their lives are much easier.
Cuz those people who questions nothing doesnt have purpose in life. They live their life for nothing. It is whatvit is. Thats life as we know it.😁😉🙂👍👍👍
Don't they say that ignorance is bliss!?!?
If you have to ask if it’s coming it’s already happened.
I welcome our intelligent overlords. They can't possibly make a worse go of it than us.
We're terrible judges of character.
They need to just shut down the net entirely and go back to newspapers and normal social interactions, it'll slowly go back to normal. The need to stop with the cash grabs and greed and then everyone will understand again what it's like to feel human, no confusion or misleading or fake acts. To make it all normal again, the net would have to be out of the picture entirely.
Woah we got a reactionary here, take your meds grandpa.
What idiotic BS... A Super intelligence created the universe and life. Some actually call it "God".
Jesus Christ gave you an offer.
Don't pass it up.
I realized that my generation is living in the scariest time to be alive because of the technology- by the time im 40 I guarantee you the world looks so much different especially after they tell us about ufos and we get that technology and we integrate it into everything - also the fact that our bodies will see things that almost make us go crazy because it’s so scary - i like to think I can see things but I’ve never been able to see past 2025 so that year is either gonna make or break us or im dead because I seen all for so long but when I try to go to 2025 it’s black I’m no longer there
What will tell us about ufo the government or the agi
@@user-dz4eb5rb3g I don’t really study AI , to much , although the 7 stages of AI are very interesting AGI is the next step for us as humans should be a little bit more than interesting , supposed we will some things out of fairy tales when AGI gets here
Are you a fortune teller or seer or something? Play the lotto bro
..I'll take all that as a no, but I don't think it's a matter of, is it coming, but rather when is it coming...