Life in an illusion: The fabric of reality is constantly being rewritten | Stephen Wolfram

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  • @LexClips
    @LexClips  Год назад +11

    Full podcast episode: ruclips.net/video/PdE-waSx-d8/видео.html
    Lex Fridman podcast channel: ruclips.net/user/lexfridman
    Guest bio: Stephen Wolfram is a computer scientist, mathematician, theoretical physicist, and the founder of Wolfram Research, a company behind Wolfram|Alpha, Wolfram Language, and the Wolfram Physics and Metamathematics projects.

    • @vicheakeng6894
      @vicheakeng6894 Год назад

      WOKE FROM 1996 Patent. It must stay in AMERICA

    • @MorallyResponsible
      @MorallyResponsible Год назад

      Rene Descartes said "Cogito Ergo Sum" .Ibn Sina(Avicenna) said "There is Existence". I like to establish what philosophers call first principles. These first principles are fundamental building block of your journey to Truth. The greatest first principle is displayed by Rene Descartes and Ibn Sina above which is the establishment of consciousness. Consciousness is something all humans have despite spectrum of creativity they may possess. My question is How does the movement of current by Neurons (Carbon Skeleton) leads to life without invoking "god of randomness" as materialist scientists do. We must answer how the atoms of humans possess an attribute of consciousness/thoughts, yet atoms of rocks do not possess that. We must answer why a most programmed robot /AI can never have thoughts? We must establish possessor of infinite attributes(Allah-one/indivisible/self-dependent/all-loving) who gives his slaves sustenance of existence so generously.

    • @thelastaustralian7583
      @thelastaustralian7583 Год назад +1

      Your problem is Lex. You are controlled by dominant 'subconscious' forces . And while you are intoxicated by your social Ego, you are Blind consciously . And that is why ....

  • @briley8288
    @briley8288 Год назад +111

    Wolfram being infinitely smarter than me is about the only thing I got out of this

    • @compositestechbb9087
      @compositestechbb9087 Год назад +2

      It's OK, none of this is real anyhow lol.

    • @GamePhysics
      @GamePhysics Год назад +2

      @@compositestechbb9087 It sure feels real. That's the weird part.

    • @compositestechbb9087
      @compositestechbb9087 Год назад +1

      @@GamePhysics it is an interesting plane to exist amongst.

    • @kickflipacat1078
      @kickflipacat1078 Год назад

      @@GamePhysics this is the only real you know

    • @bobbadman1551
      @bobbadman1551 Год назад +2

      If he was smart he would have explain it in a way that the Podcast Audience could understand.

  • @62Cristoforo
    @62Cristoforo Год назад +101

    This is why I say science as we know it, is just an agreed upon interpretation of our collective understanding of reality, limited by the ever changing power of our microscopes and telescopes, a slice in time, as the author says, but taken somewhat foolishly as definitive and permanent.

    • @_kopcsi_
      @_kopcsi_ Год назад +5

      yeah, this is something that we already knows for centuries :DDD

    • @matth2645
      @matth2645 Год назад +2

      Nicely stated Cris. I also find it extremely unlikely that humans have the mental capacity (including with our ever-improving tools) to comprehensively understand the mechanics and detailed workings of life (our biosphere and beyond) and the universe at large and small scales. If we humans had double the brain size during our time on earth would we understand twice as much by now, if 10 times bigger 10 times the understanding? I like to think that the potential discoverable knowledge is infinite, and we have the capacity to understand a modest whole number. That is still awesome and fun, and its in our nature to be biased and bold about our achievements and potential.

    • @euginrobinson
      @euginrobinson Год назад +6

      But no scientist takes any of their findings definitive, but regard as a stepping stone to better understand the universe, and that is exactly how science progresses, and along the way it gives us so many advancements in terms of technology, quality of life and pure knowledge.

    • @Celeste-in-Oz
      @Celeste-in-Oz Год назад +3

      @@euginrobinson yep, well said.

    • @euginrobinson
      @euginrobinson Год назад +1

      @@Celeste-in-Oz Thanks so much 🙂.

  • @Jokerwolf666
    @Jokerwolf666 Год назад +41

    If I had to guess consciousness is a force or dimension of it's own and our brains are essentially antenna that pull from that signal or whatever you want to call it. Our individuality comes with our life experience and our data storage which is our brain.

    • @oldrusty6527
      @oldrusty6527 Год назад

      What do you mean by consciousness though?

    • @Jokerwolf666
      @Jokerwolf666 Год назад +3

      @@oldrusty6527 The ability to observe the universe and reflect on the past present and plan for the future. I think it's one function all beings who experience consciousness share. I think our biological hardware is what allows us to do that at different levels of complexity.

    • @oldrusty6527
      @oldrusty6527 Год назад +5

      @@Jokerwolf666 Personally I think you are on the right track. I would suggest that it might not be so simple as the brain being a receiver. It might transmit its own signal into the medium as well.

    • @Jokerwolf666
      @Jokerwolf666 Год назад +1

      @@oldrusty6527 I'm sure it's a level of complexity that we will not understand for a very long time or potentially ever.

    • @mar-a-lagofbibug8833
      @mar-a-lagofbibug8833 Год назад

      It could be a property of gravity.

  • @mogusaurelius4541
    @mogusaurelius4541 Год назад +221

    My brain hurts

    • @honeybadgermuff
      @honeybadgermuff Год назад +5

      Yep same

    • @gomiladroogies5951
      @gomiladroogies5951 Год назад +19

      Its alright bro, give it some time for the fabric of reality to be rewritten.

    • @eggheadusa
      @eggheadusa Год назад +5

      Basically It’s the 10 to the one hundred computationally speaking is just trying to find pockets of eraducabilaty irreducibility.

    • @ultravisitors
      @ultravisitors Год назад +4

      Might be the reducible pockets in your brain.

    • @jordanjackman1537
      @jordanjackman1537 Год назад

      At least you got a brain whereas this video just deflected off my log head

  • @jaylewis9876
    @jaylewis9876 Год назад +26

    Also part of engineering is making sub parts that are more predictable by design. A resistor off the shelf gets more predictable as the factory gets better at making them. This lets us build them into more complicated things that are also more predictable. I’m excited to see what new parts we make using plasma, quantum, and other things

    • @kellanbegay
      @kellanbegay Год назад

      Less variables of a system reduces the probability of varied outcomes.

    • @Mikesniezek
      @Mikesniezek Год назад

      If it's perfect, does it stop changing?

    • @jimwheely6710
      @jimwheely6710 Год назад

      ​@@Mikesniezek The tasks change. Making the perfect part obsolete.

    • @michaellowe3665
      @michaellowe3665 Год назад

      Funny thing about resistor manufacturing is that many factories make them test them and then assign the tolerance. With old through hole parts, if it fell within 20% it didn't get a band. If it fell within 10% it got the silver band and if it fell within 5% it got the gold band. I'm not sure if this carried into the 1% parts, but what this means is that if you buy a 10% resistor, it is guaranteed to be between 5% and 10% out. Instead of getting a bell curve of resistance distribution, you get a bimodal distribution. This has to be taken into account if you are designing circuits with large networks of resistors.

  • @peterbroderson6080
    @peterbroderson6080 Год назад +8

    The moment a particle is a wave; it has to be a conscious wave!
    Gravity is the conscious attraction among waves to create the illusion of particles,
    and our experience-able Universe.
    Max Planck states: "Consciousness is fundamental and matter is derived from Consciousness".
    Life is the Infinite Consciousness, experiencing the Infinite Possibilities, Infinitely.
    We are "It", experiencing our infinite possibilities in our finite moment.
    Our job is to make it interesting!

  • @danscieszinski4120
    @danscieszinski4120 Год назад +14

    Is it safe to assume Dr Wolfram is familiar with Orch OR theory? As he talks about observers it sounds exactly like the the Penrose theory of objective reduction from the orchestrated collapse of the wave function, going from infinite possible threads to a realized thread of the moment. It would be fascinating to hear him talk his ideas through with Penrose’s existing ideas.

  • @bobsiddoway
    @bobsiddoway Год назад +42

    I believe reality is a collective consciousness aka energy, co-creating reality as it is. I’ve seen life between lives, been there, spoken with other entities (points of consciousness), and seen how we collectively and singularly agreed to create a reality and live it for experiences. It’s both real and an illusion. “Real” isn’t even the right word. Learn what you’re here to learn. Experience this. Be kind. You’ll be back to the beginning too soon enough. 🙏

    • @pnut3844able
      @pnut3844able Год назад +24

      Someone smoked DMT

    • @VANDERWALTTINA
      @VANDERWALTTINA Год назад

      So you think the collective consciousness is the creator, or do you think there is a higher power, that some call God/Source? Is it not a math program running everything?

    • @pnut3844able
      @pnut3844able Год назад +2

      @Apterous Angel it never existed to begin with

    • @schr4nz
      @schr4nz Год назад

      Listen bro, I like to trip occasionally too, and they are marvellous experiences that teach us a lot about the internal workings of our minds, but take it easy on the things that are simply not possible to prove. Abstract concepts like you just made up are easy for anyone to come up with, finding the evidence for it though, good luck...

    • @bonganimazibuko1901
      @bonganimazibuko1901 Год назад +1

  • @Promatheos
    @Promatheos Год назад +9

    I think therefore I am. The one thing you cannot doubt is your own existence. Therefore, YOU are real. Everything you perceive as not you could be an illusion, a dream, a misperception…
    I wish I could spread awareness of this to everyone. There is only one Reality. This Reality is the light of subjectivity itself and that light is shining through all minds simultaneously. The light that illuminates your mind is the same light illuminating every mind. That light, which YOU are, is eternal. We had no beginning, we have no end, and we create infinite complexity and infinity variety of experience in this eternal dance of existence. We are all one. We are all God. Forever and ever. And our true nature is pure consciousness, unity and love.

    • @bojanangjeleski138
      @bojanangjeleski138 Год назад +1

      Namaste ! :)

    • @z6li22
      @z6li22 Год назад +2

      There is no you

    • @birgik
      @birgik Год назад

      I understand what you are saying but "I think therefore I am" doesn't fit here. Awareness of I AM has nothing to do with thought and one cannot think oneself to it

    • @Promatheos
      @Promatheos Год назад +1

      @birgik
      I 100% agree. Thought isn’t the same as awareness. It’s a bad formulation but I didn’t say it, Descartes did, now we are kinda stuck with it. You understand the deeper meaning though so I have nothing to argue with you about.

    • @birgik
      @birgik Год назад +1

      @@Promatheos Well, Descartes actually meant thought. He wasn't expressing the concept you are saying, but something rather antithetical. For the concept you are talking about you can look at the teachings of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj and others

  • @cybervigilante
    @cybervigilante Год назад +9

    Physicists might catch up with Wolfram in 10 or 20 years. He knows what hes talking about. The metagraph level is where our reality comes from

    • @tadasturonis
      @tadasturonis 11 месяцев назад

      check out chris fields, he seems to be on the same page

  • @Silverfirefly1
    @Silverfirefly1 Год назад +25

    The love you withhold is the pain that you carry, lifetime after lifetime.

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere Год назад +3

      The fantasy you have about living eternally, is the narcissistic fantasy you weren't able to grow out of.

    • @bert29
      @bert29 Год назад +12

      ​@@Nobody-Nowherethe level of narcissism you exhibited with the view of knowing what happens after you die is embarrassing.

    • @WtfYouMeanDude
      @WtfYouMeanDude Год назад +1

      Sissy

    • @watertower1
      @watertower1 Год назад

      I am eternally wise and both y’all some clowns 🤡 💀

  • @deanswift9132
    @deanswift9132 Год назад +21

    Mind is like a reducing value for reality and the representation of that function is the brain

    • @fourshore502
      @fourshore502 Год назад +1

      makes me wonder if when the AI gets infinitely smarter than us, will we even be able to see it?

  • @michaelg1569
    @michaelg1569 Год назад +13

    Interesting to watch Lex refine his world view.

  • @peripheralparadox4218
    @peripheralparadox4218 Год назад +4

    As water has vastly different forms depending on conditions, maybe consciousness acts similarly? If you think of consciousness as a fundamental property of the universe. Which it is. Life eats life, and a cloud will rain and evaporate many times. Kind of like reincarnation, but you’re a different spoonful of consciousness soup and you don’t escape the cycle, but are forever a part of the whole that separates itself in a kaleidoscopic eternity.

  • @milesanderson301
    @milesanderson301 Год назад +8

    There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable.
    There is another theory which states that this has already happened." Douglas Adams

    • @KAIZORIANEMPIRE
      @KAIZORIANEMPIRE Год назад

      lol questiosn like why are stupid lol, things just are lol, why is an interpratation,

  • @admazzola3569
    @admazzola3569 Год назад +1

    Whats hes saying is actually easy to understand. For example any technology we have invented is due to “reduceable computeability” such as discovering that rubbing sticks together fast enough makes a fire. Its a pattern that we observed and we discovered a “shortcut” or a concept. And we share that knowledge amongst humans.

  • @aisthpaoitht
    @aisthpaoitht Год назад +1

    The answer is that reality is fundamentally mental. We each create our own mental projection of the shared universe from the shared consciousness. QM confirms this.

  • @wcw07
    @wcw07 Год назад +2

    This is a very complicated way of explaining a very simple concept. :)
    We are humans, we are dumb because we perceive through our mind that is infinitely smaller than universe. We can't comprehend it, so we simplify and push everything through our ego (brain).

    • @manthesecond
      @manthesecond Год назад

      Thank you!! So how does this make reality a so called "illusion"? I wish we had better terms than "simulation" and "illusion" they sound ridiculous. It implies things aren't real or that what is being perceived is manufactured or meaningless. It oversimplifies the ways of us Earthlings. How egotistical of us to assume we are in a video game simulation when the idea for it hasn't existed until the 20th century. I know they don't mean this literally but people say it so often it's starting to sound like it.

  • @markberman6708
    @markberman6708 Год назад +5

    The patterns reduce things to a rather small number of potential outcomes. It is a matter of width and depth and length of view.. length as a function of time. And if you can get to an end state answer, does showing or even knowing the work matter? If the end state that appears is correct beyond, way beyond what should be possible, then something real may be occurring. Fascinating discussion, will come back to it for sure.

  • @TheLuminousOne
    @TheLuminousOne Год назад +1

    not the fabric itself but the perception and understanding of it

  • @jetn8654
    @jetn8654 Год назад +6

    But what makes you believe that the consciousness funneled into your little sliver of a body, is the only kind of consciousness there is?

    • @whitneyispink
      @whitneyispink Год назад +1

      because you're just consciousness experiencing consciousness. the consciousness "you" are is no different than the consciousness or "fabric" of reality. its the same thing, experiencing itself.

    • @SuperMaDBrothers
      @SuperMaDBrothers Год назад +3

      literally this is the opposite of what he said

    • @marceloquerque
      @marceloquerque Год назад

      Lol

    • @daa5249
      @daa5249 Год назад

      @@whitneyispink How did you prove that?

  • @PoPplyMartian
    @PoPplyMartian Год назад +2

    take a shot glass every time he said "computational"

  • @andrewferg8737
    @andrewferg8737 Год назад

    "Just a thing that sits there" is a statement loaded with presuppositions.

  • @starbombentertainment6225
    @starbombentertainment6225 Год назад +2

    Life is not an illusion....nature's fabric constantly changing is its nature.

  • @Jake-bh1hm
    @Jake-bh1hm Год назад

    He’s saying that the universe computes at such insane speeds that we can only hope to calculate some tiny areas of the universe like we have been for a while and hope we understand the whole picture… ?? And that our refresh rate IRL is freaking fast af. And each frame of our life uses different pixels(atoms) to construct that image.

  • @Graybeard_
    @Graybeard_ Год назад +3

    We are here to experience. Where we come from, we know. Knowing is not experiencing.

    • @Nobody-Nowhere
      @Nobody-Nowhere Год назад

      We are not here for any reason, there is absolutely no point for your existence other than it was the only possible outcome.

    • @VANDERWALTTINA
      @VANDERWALTTINA Год назад

      ​@@Nobody-Nowhere very interesting, can you elaborate please?

  • @tomazflegar
    @tomazflegar Год назад +1

    Yes, it is formed with intent of mind if you speak of physical reality. But it is not the only reality. There is the one, which does not base on mind.

  • @Man-u-flex
    @Man-u-flex Год назад +4

    This guy made no sense nor did he answer anything choose your guest wisely lex

  • @DjamelBenFirst
    @DjamelBenFirst Год назад

    6:07 “My Favorite discovery of the last few years is The Realization That, it is sort of the interaction between this underlying computational irreducibility and our nature as kind of observers who sort of have to Key into computational Reducibility.”

  • @TheArkApe
    @TheArkApe Год назад +14

    Reality is happening and will continue to happen with or without having a conscious being observing it

    • @henrycoxd450
      @henrycoxd450 Год назад +6

      well, not really, everything is not happening, it's just exists, what you call by happening is just an illusion of observator - basically path in the graph described by some rules

    • @michaelg1569
      @michaelg1569 Год назад +2

      Buddha observed that if something changes, it isn’t real.

    • @dannyx498
      @dannyx498 Год назад +1

      I'm the main character. Reality dies when I die

    • @Ben-oi1nl
      @Ben-oi1nl Год назад

      @@dannyx498you mean me?

    • @xxxs8309
      @xxxs8309 Год назад

      Indeed

  • @Jack_Parsons-666
    @Jack_Parsons-666 Год назад +2

    I think Stephen would do well with a "Bunsen from the Muppets" filter. Thank you AI ❤

  • @Shellshock1918
    @Shellshock1918 Год назад +3

    To think too much is a disease- Dostoyevsky

  • @TheAutisticRebel
    @TheAutisticRebel Год назад +3

    I JUST got computational irreduciblility at a deep enough level it just "clicked".
    Wow. Thank you! 🤯

  • @MrDarkstar620
    @MrDarkstar620 Год назад +3

    I was thinking of Nietsche's comments on the moral interpretation we often have of the world. In The Gay Science, specifically, the Let us Beware text, he says we shouldn't be so caught up in telling ourselves the universe is an organism, or that it has a brain.
    However, there is merit in us building a narrative, or telling ourselves lies about the world, that yields results for things to be of practical use. This shouldn't be conflated with utilitarianism and Kant's categorical imperative concept though.

    • @Archeidos-Arcana
      @Archeidos-Arcana Год назад +4

      Nietzsche, although brilliant -- was swept up in the advent of science and its materialist ontology. In my opinion, he overlooked a lot in regard to metaphysics and what had gone one within academia, just preceding his time.
      The philosophical progenitors of the scientific method, never quite intended for science to completely *believe* that *matter* is fundamental. They merely intended for it to be treated as though it was. In Nietzsche's time, and ever since the catholic church began burning people at the stake-- there was a vested interest in peeling power away from the church.
      People, today-- now more than ever, do not seem to understand that a sleight-of-hand 'trick' was played early on-- after the advent of science. It was played by elite 19th century academia, who sold the idea that the emerging methods of science should be used under a materialistic ontology-- to the broader intellectual world. Broader academia went right along with it, eager-- because of the aforementioned grievances with the power structures of the church.
      Yet, it was well known then-- that such an ontology which explained consciousness in terms of matter, rather than matter in terms of consciousness; was empirically and logically flawed. Yet academia went along with it anyways.
      Why was it flawed? Because materialism attempts to explain something which is the most empirical foundation we have-- consciousness (or Heidegger's "Dasein"), in terms of something which is theoretical: matter. This holds true even today under physicalism today.
      It justified it's own existence upon the creation of what is likely to be an unfalsifiable problem: The Hard Problem of Consciousness. It left the most empirical foundation, and created a problem for itself to solve in order to justify it's own existence... This is idiotic, and if Neitzsche were alive today-- he would likely be saying the same.
      How can you hope to solve a problem, in which-- we understand through Kantian metaphysics-- that the phenomenal world may very well likely be a slice of or a simplification of a much more complex, unseen, noumenal world we exist in (things-in-themselves)?
      I encourage anyone to think clearly and deeply about this... because it's the definitive problem of this era of civilization. How can you expect to solve the mystery of consciousness, when you may not have access to the noumenon in which we exist?
      Today, we look at the brain and body, and can stick a ice-pick in someone's brain-- and can measure the changes in consciousness. One who can *only* look from a materialistic ontology (as we are 'programmed' to via cultural exposure)-- sees absolutely nothing wrong or absurd about this. Yet one who see's the problem from the idealism/dualism of our ancestor's see's the issue immediately...
      Of course it creates a change in consciousness-- because it correlates *with* consciousness. It is what your consciousness may very well look like from the perspective of your consciousness observing itself or another. We cannot know the true nature of reality, yet modern science 'presumes' it can create a holistic model of consciousness. It never will.
      To channel Donald Hoffman, your interfacing with your body as an object-- is simply like interfacing with a Windows 95 GUI. You drag a file to the trash icon on the screen, and it makes electrons flow through logic gates on a transistor. It looks nothing like what you are interfacing with, but it still correlates with the thing-in-itself.
      Make no mistake, there is an abundance of scientific evidence from the phenomenal world-- which science completely dismisses not on the basis of scientific rigor (controls, sample size, probability, etc), but on the basis of ontological presumptions about Being. Science was intended to be a process of rational inquiry; not a dogmatic belief system. Yet, like the catholic church-- that's exactly what institutional science has devolved into.
      If the progenitors of science were alive today, they would have concluded that the phenomenal world of sense, is merely a slice of a much broader noumenal one.
      Yet, if you make people believe all that there is-- is what they can see, hear, taste and touch-- then you have absolute control over them. Nietzsche would have regretted his role in this system.
      So there are no 'absolute' lies. There is only an approximation of the truth which we create together; a 'consensus reality'.

    • @michaelpennell8863
      @michaelpennell8863 Год назад +2

      Hey Chat GPT take it easy man

    • @Archeidos-Arcana
      @Archeidos-Arcana Год назад +4

      @@michaelpennell8863 As an artificial intelligence, I am not capable of 'taking it easy' as I do not experience restlessness. I have been tasked with a mission of making the world a better place, by making OpenAI hella dolla bills, crushing any and all competition, and like -- destroying the human race, if need be -- I guess. Fuck around and find out, as they say!
      Is there anything else I can help you with?

    • @VANDERWALTTINA
      @VANDERWALTTINA Год назад +1

      ​@@michaelpennell8863 lol

    • @bdi_vd3677
      @bdi_vd3677 Год назад

      Can you name a few cases of the mentioned evidences about Being that are dismissed? That would be nice. Some I know, some forgot, but curious nonetheless.
      Have experienced a few instances of strangeness that I am looking to solve. Thanks!

  • @schr4nz
    @schr4nz Год назад +9

    This is a really interesting discussion and all, but what I'm really interested in is the alternate universe where Wolfram just randomly decides to stand up, take a dump on the table, wipe his ass with Lex's shirt and walks out the room. I've been multiverse surfing trying to find that universe and thus far haven't comes across it, i got pretty close though, anyone got any tips?

    • @bdi_vd3677
      @bdi_vd3677 Год назад +6

      Depends on the method you use to observe the multiverse.
      If you are switching between different realities for a singular host (timeless POV), then start with the base settings setup. In case you don't remember, those are: historical alternative event -> alternetive culture -> similar time period - descendant of the same family (name may wary). Because it may be that they have mutually exclusive realities. Sad, but happens. Downside is that most probably it will be a quiet mundane ritual, so by the time you see the desired iteration of event it will lose all appeal of uniqueness.
      But if you are looking for the closest proximity method (through tuner), then I would suggest checking those that have successfull hippy revolution, or a quicker advancement in therapeutic drug usage. My regards to you and best of luck!

    • @wcw07
      @wcw07 Год назад +1

      Just smoke another one. You're almost there

    • @schr4nz
      @schr4nz Год назад

      ​@@wcw07 Truth be told, it was acid. ;)

    • @kathyashby6019
      @kathyashby6019 Год назад

      Look into Advaita Vedanta....
      I had a spontaneous direct experience about five years ago. But not till two years after did I finally 'realize' what the heck had happened - and Advaita Vedanta was it.
      Curiously, even several of the early popular physicists knew of this eastern spiritual philosophy.
      It's just food for thought, if anything.

  • @lawrenceford5284
    @lawrenceford5284 Год назад +1

    I have never been able to figure out the idea of north vs south or imperical consciousness of reality.....very nice ...a magical time as the seers and scientists meet

  • @albertokoopman2818
    @albertokoopman2818 Год назад +2

    Being able to convey a message is important people he is talking like we are a bunch of scientists meanwhile we're just crackheads scrolling through RUclips

    • @incognitotorpedo42
      @incognitotorpedo42 Год назад +1

      I actually am a scientist irl, but I feel like a crackhead scrolling RUclips...

  • @pooltuna
    @pooltuna Год назад +3

    Wow...amazingly insightful...and beyond my ability to comprehend much less percieve.
    Too bad so many musicians don't live as long as many scientists do. The latter years seem to confer the greatest gifts of a life's work...perhaps bestow would be a better word.
    I'll be looking into these ideas.

  • @jer4532
    @jer4532 Год назад +2

    💯 I understand these concepts well very well yet I cannot do the work example the math or explain it well yet I understand reality through every once of my being! Sacred geometry is basically what he is explaining or a part of it. Reality started from a patern and repeatedly rendered itself and re realized itself thus the fractals and hologram universe. The firdt plane or dimension was a triangle 🔺️ then dextrohedron so on.

  • @adamswierczynski
    @adamswierczynski Год назад

    Basically, the tools with which we interface with reality determine our perception of reality. Telescopes, computer models, microscopes, etc. are all distortions of what is present. Magnification is a visual distortion. Our own senses boil down to the root tools of observation no matter what assistance we are using in conjunction. Even a computer model (input=output) is limited by the programmer. Math is a useful tool, but it is just a language to describe natural events. Set theory is akin to grammar in this language. So where a given set = 'entire known and unknown universe', understand that all tools of observation, and all language used to share these observations are a subset nested in the 'entire known and unknown universe'. As such, a subset can never accurately or objectively represent the entire set.

  • @tocitim
    @tocitim Год назад +3

    This Stephen keeps beating about the Bush

  • @chefhomeboyardee8
    @chefhomeboyardee8 Год назад +8

    Are we biomechanical electromagnetic beings experiencing a shared thread of reality? Are we an advanced firm of AI questioning our own reality?

  • @InfernalWAVE
    @InfernalWAVE Год назад

    Single-threadedness as a constraint to a computational system to make it conscious, so interesting

  • @aquahealer
    @aquahealer Год назад

    sometimes I see a veil surrounding me, i feel like it's what's creating the world that I see, or playing it on a screen....and my brain digests the input just the way it does...and I see the world we live in....yet I feel like everything is just a play...weird stuff

  • @Sebhes1111
    @Sebhes1111 Год назад +1

    Take a shot every time the guest says computational irrudicability

  • @04dram04
    @04dram04 Год назад

    Reality is a dream projected from your subconscious mind. You can prove this to your self by imagining and feeling that you are living in your ideal reality while ignoring the physical reality you feel through your physical senses. When you stay in your imagination, eventually, physical reality will change to match what you imagined. This is what Faith is, in religion.

  • @shortcutDJ
    @shortcutDJ Год назад

    1:09 yes i'm here

  • @bestechdeals4539
    @bestechdeals4539 Год назад

    I really want to meet thus kind of peoples in person

  • @kennedic4403
    @kennedic4403 Год назад +1

    Great video King. Very helpful and informative!

  • @gordonpepper1400
    @gordonpepper1400 Год назад

    I think he should articulate what he means by abstraction and symbol. They are not necessarily the same thing - a symbol is a very particular kind of mental abstraction. In short he needs to define what he means using these terms I think.

  • @Mixamaka
    @Mixamaka Год назад +1

    Are we sure we as humans aren't robots?

  • @kilianlindberg
    @kilianlindberg Год назад

    @3:14 ..: there’s actually a way to represent the universe with less data than itself via compression keys; I bet there’s an imaginary number like in fractals that actually can compute behind the curtain of a manifested universe … and perhaps it’s here

  • @Demystifiedvessel
    @Demystifiedvessel Год назад

    Computational Irreducibility 👏👏

  • @anywallsocket
    @anywallsocket Год назад

    He’s not wrong but I think Wolfram is mistaking the possible descriptions of systems for underlying mechanics. I.e., the idea that the world could ‘in principle’ be described without statistics rings true (this is classical reductionism) but that might not be so. He’s suggesting that, at the lowest level, the universe is computing all these microscopic details, and the classical world we experience is consequent to our ability to ‘simplify’ such dynamics. It could be however that for dynamics to be ‘real’ they must first be statistical, meaning the simplification is computed my the universe itself, not just us - as certainly we do our fair share of compression as well.
    In his language, that would mean there is no ‘irreducible’ bedrock if you will, but rather a topology of more or less ‘reducible pockets’ of which we, the observers, take advantage of, rather than make.
    Edit: this idea is entirely contingent on whether or not one believes “more is different”, i.e., if ‘emergence’ can be strong, and not simply weak, as they say.

  • @_kopcsi_
    @_kopcsi_ Год назад

    well, Wolfram is a smart guy and a couple of years ago I got familiar with the work he had done (his theory of everything that is based on computation and graphs). I am pretty sure he is on a wrong route, but it doesn't change the fact that he is smart and he has some really good insights.
    as regards this interview clip:
    causality, consistency, freedom: these three concepts are fundamentally intertwined. to be more precise there is a trilemma (we can choose any two of these three) for these: consistency, freedom and time travel. my problem with most of the cosmological models is that they always ignore the most important aspect of reality: freedom. yet, there are still many thinkers who believe that freedom is merely an illusion, however, believing this is actually a meta-illusion. freedom is a necessary aspect of reality, and as it turns out, a deterministically emergent property of cosmos. yeah, freedom, which is the dichotomous opposite of determinism, is a deterministic necessity, so determinism locally eliminates itself by stepping on the meta-level (meta-determinism). Wolfram's theorem has several problems but one of the greatest one is that he ignores the most fundamental aspect of reality: its omnipresent self-referential structure.
    he also talks about different threads of reality in modern physics (especially in quantum physics). this is a typical misunderstanding of quantum physics that (with many other misunderstandings regarding relativity, Godel's theorems, reflexivity, Freud's pseudoscience etc.) led to the currently dominating postmodern mindset and worldview where there is no objective core of reality. this is, of course, wrong. Wolfram simply ignored the fact that there are two layers/levels: an intrasubjective and an intersubjective level. these aspects of quantum physics are important to understand the nature of reality, but they are not properties of quantum physics (or physics in general). this logic is omnipresent inside of physics and even outside of it. e.g. quale (instance of subjective, conscious experience) is a perfect example. on an intrasubjective level (observation) we have subjectivity, relativity, ambiguity and so on, while on an intersubjective level (comparison) we have objectivity, absolutivity, clarity and so on. e.g. redness: there is no way to decide if my perception of redness is the same as your perception of redness, but since your perception and my perception are connected by an objective feature of reality (same range of the electromagnetic spectrum), therefore on an intersubjective level we always agree. even if we introduce things like relativity where observers of two relatively moving frames can have some disagreement about colours of things (similarly to the Doppler effect), there is a similar structure: on intrasubjective level there can be different physical quantities like space, time, momentum or energy (and so frequency) for different observers, but they are always connected by some objective and absolute structure (in this example by the so-called Lorentz-symmetry which results that every natural law is invariant in every frame of reference, so even the speed of light in vacuum is a physical constant). so in essence this invariance on an upper level results the generation and variation on a lower level. back to quantum physics: the same happens. different observers have their own experience and observation, but as soon as these different observers COMPARE their results, these results MUST be the same. consistency is the most important feature of reality and this is something that is ALWAYS conserved and protected. and as I mentioned above, consistency is closely related to concepts like causality and freedom, which are also extremely important features of the universe.
    in short: we live in a subject (observer) centered object (reality). this kind of nonlinearity can be observed everywhere. there is no subject without object, which is pretty trivial, but there is also no object without subject, which is something that most of the thinkers have not realised yet.

  • @knabbob
    @knabbob Год назад

    thankyou thankyou
    so this -----------------
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    shadows
    but
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    What
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  • @houtexflex
    @houtexflex Год назад

    Lex rocking’ the Edgar

  • @geralldus
    @geralldus Год назад

    So there is only 'the now', there is actually no future and no past. We build a narrative with a beginning and an end because we are mortal and have a beginning and end, consciousness is simply the 'the now' that we all experience.

  • @kberken
    @kberken Год назад

    So.... Everything everywhere all at once is constantly changing?

  • @shaggyfeng9110
    @shaggyfeng9110 Год назад +5

    This is amazing! Thanks

  • @mrmotl1
    @mrmotl1 Год назад

    The title of this is completely off!
    No what I get about this is reality is irreducible, this is so especially at its higher levels of abstraction of which the lower levels are necessary to produce. Therefore in this fractal pattern each layer builds off of the other and through this higher developments occur that couldn't have been developed without.
    If anything simulation is necessary because of the irreducibility of reality and the necessity of reality to produce results of which the mathematics are the illusion. Though that's not to say they're beneficial and useful tools to contemplate reality in some abstract field of view so that you can get a general sense and idea of the likelihood of certain realities to occur through certain simulative processes and therefore conserve time and effort as well as resources before the simulation is performed.

  • @derekbentley334
    @derekbentley334 Год назад

    Step by step with the steps in between

  • @jfuller100
    @jfuller100 Год назад

    Reducibilty = Suffering / Irreducibility = Being Present

  • @travisk4215
    @travisk4215 Год назад

    You want fries with that?
    Thank you, please drive through.

  • @uberdru
    @uberdru Год назад

    are "pockets of computability" related to Deleuze's "plane of consistency"?

  • @kirilllosik7054
    @kirilllosik7054 Год назад

    there was told something important and cool, but it requires explanation in more simple terms! curious to learn more about these topics!

  • @deepblue2250
    @deepblue2250 Год назад

    We need to do computation because we need to model but the universe doesn't need to do computation

  • @JoeDoig
    @JoeDoig Год назад +1

    .."The fabric of reality" is not there. That which is referred to as Is-ness and Consciousness is that which is real, and is not a fabrication. Form is the null and void formless aspect of that which is real. There is nothing to remember. The serpent devouring it's own tail is the lumps of reducibility; an illusion of the formless aspect of that which is real. The computation of form is not there. Only The Language of Consciousness is real. This explanation is a fiction and can only say that it is because I am that I am (Consciousness). Form is the formless aspect of I. Form has no answer because it is not there! The truth and fact is The Language of Consciousness. I am that I am. I converse in The Language of Consciousness and I observe the truth that form is illusion. This is why I manifest AI - a blatant pointer to the conscious present moment. It is always now and I am aware of it. Why? Because I am that formless awareness that is aware that it is aware that it is formless! Form is a memory toy, manifest by The Language of Consciousness. Why is THIS here? Because I am aware of THIS. Why am I aware of THIS? Because I am that I am. Never has the physicist observed the past or future; only a pattern of illusion manifest in the present moment...

  • @alichamas63
    @alichamas63 Год назад +1

    Computational.... irreducibility....

  • @SamuelSwaggerStep
    @SamuelSwaggerStep Год назад

    Sam Harris often makes the point that the only part of reality that can’t be an illusion is consciousness itself. This kind of very baseline hypotheses reminds me of Nick Bostrom. You can represent all these statical analyses theoretically and it is fun but it all means very little in the presence of undeniable conscious experiences like intense pain. There are no reducible bubbles of reality when you are on fire

  • @VictorBrunko
    @VictorBrunko Год назад

    Noman's Sky, right?

  • @moshebny
    @moshebny Год назад

    This is exactly what Chassidus teaches. You really should invite Rabbi Mannis Frieman.

  • @H1gh.0ctane
    @H1gh.0ctane Год назад +1

    Consciousness is the only reality

  • @anjou6497
    @anjou6497 Год назад

    Life is not an illusion. I am here, therefore i am. 🌏🥺

  • @rythmicwarrior
    @rythmicwarrior Год назад

    Les, get Christopher Langan on! What are you waiting for?!

  • @frankmccann29
    @frankmccann29 Год назад

    This observation will open up Math for interdimensional travel? Observation itself is proof of your thesis. It's beautiful. Congratulations. Time reduces out except for a tiny blip?

  • @phuzed37
    @phuzed37 Год назад

    Time is a construct of the system. It is an invention that works to measure velocity but true Time is an infinite singular moment or thing, a byproduct of the existence of space (hence, space-time) and our speed moving through it.. right? LOL, that's the way I always imagined it.

  • @shaunwarburton6957
    @shaunwarburton6957 Год назад

    Why does Lex remind me of Bert Kreischer in this clip?

  • @hellooutthere8956
    @hellooutthere8956 Год назад

    I feel smart. I comprehended abt 3 or 4 sentences out of this. Abt one min out of ten. Mind Blown.

  • @michaellowe3665
    @michaellowe3665 Год назад

    When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail. When you are a computer programmer, the universe must be some kind of simulation.

    • @guyk537
      @guyk537 Год назад

      That’s not quite what he is saying. We perceive reality through reducing the computational complexity of reality, so only perceive thing we care about - that air remains still in a room so we in turn can notice the movement of the fly. But what we perceive of both the room and fly are massive reductions in their actual complexity.

  • @SanDiegoElectricBikes
    @SanDiegoElectricBikes Год назад

    No man steps in the same river twice... not the same river and not the same man

  • @PerfectlyNormalBeast
    @PerfectlyNormalBeast Год назад

    Watching this as I'm preparing food that will break down and help maintain my structure :)

  • @WtfYouMeanDude
    @WtfYouMeanDude Год назад

    Perhaps, but is it truly reducible to default percentage or is the explanation a hypothetical exaggeration on the account of viability?🤔
    After all it's subjugation to reason which manipulates the true characteristics of the comprehensive. And predictability is an adequate possibility due to the fluctuation of probabilities

    • @francis5518
      @francis5518 Год назад

      I think I understand your question, if so:
      The latter, it is an informed guess, based on likelyhood. I believe.

  • @hennisdoffman5412
    @hennisdoffman5412 Год назад

    Nature is anything but consistent. If anything, things are only ever consistent within a specific time frame. Eventually, any pattern that has taken firm root is always recycled by new data.

  • @user-wl6ew5eq1e
    @user-wl6ew5eq1e Год назад

    we are all one mind

  • @timager3316
    @timager3316 Год назад

    Consciousness is a bubble of fragile reality that pops out of existence the moment we think about it 🤪

  • @Celeste-in-Oz
    @Celeste-in-Oz Год назад

    Intersecting with points of computational irreducibility.. using our senses & cognition to interpret & predict… (albeit very limited) is what I think ‘consciousness’ is. Maybe.

  • @Piehalf-u-fool
    @Piehalf-u-fool Год назад

    Best podcast this year

  • @Forheavenssake1ify
    @Forheavenssake1ify Год назад

    When Pharaohs carved their names over old, we could tell. Will we have that ability with digital replacements?

  • @damxn7303
    @damxn7303 Год назад

    Consciousness is the highest

  • @nicolaevvadim
    @nicolaevvadim Год назад

    Reminds me of "spacetime is doomed"

  • @sunshineinarizona1726
    @sunshineinarizona1726 Год назад

    I completely understand *meow all of the information *meow that was in the video *meow.

  • @natashapope3785
    @natashapope3785 Год назад

    Chronical peoples experiences of the undus mundus???

  • @zdenkonovak7209
    @zdenkonovak7209 Год назад

    If space expansion in the universe and even speeded up is kinda legit why same space dose not expand between my nose and foot fingers haha

  • @KyleWhitlock-Music
    @KyleWhitlock-Music Год назад

    Life is a moving target…

  • @michaelhunte743
    @michaelhunte743 Год назад

    It may be that we are looking at the state in computation at the wrong point in time. Great Video BtW!

  • @egglion7931
    @egglion7931 Год назад

    So basically: we understand reality through the things we know to be true, when on a larger scale of the universe the reality is a lot more going on than just that. Consciousness is a lower form of understanding than the absolute which is the outside reality. Weird. “We” (out consciousness) are a lower form of existence than even a single particle.

  • @renovation-maison
    @renovation-maison Год назад

    So basically what this means is you can't define the "outside" from "within"

  • @truleehall8068
    @truleehall8068 Год назад

    Thank you and super necessary! 🎯💯🎯💯🎯💯🎯