@@DawitsLookingforEmilia like pop off king spread the gospel of THE PRIMORDIAL ONE! It's to the point I internally say his name in your voice the same way you say it XD
It’s possible that Nabu isn’t actually a god, and was just classified as that by the modern era because her status as essentially Genshin’s equivalent of an angel gave her god-like power. “God” in Genshin mainly just seems to be a way of quantifying a being power level (for the most part). So it’s possible characters like Nabu, Zhongli, and Guizhong became Gods because they met the requirements. This is almost confirmed because that’s basically what happened to Venti.
but why did they all appear at roughly the same time? did something happen to let beings accrue more power all of a sudden around that time? was there simply more power available because of an incident?
Nabu is very sus. I think she’s the Shade of Life. The power of water, plants, and dreams all belonged to her originally. We know Rukkhadevata “inherited” dreams and plants, while Egeria, the og hydro archon actually fought on her land, and when she died, the bird Nabu created drank up the lake and scattered to pieces. Khvarena. What IS khvarena? An EQUAL OPPOSITE to Abyss! Above all elements, and confirmed to be the power source of the machines of Khaenri’ah.
@@yYSilverFoxYy nope, she was not the shade of life. according to artifact of paradise lost, she is implied to be one of the surviving seelie race. which is what the majority of lore community currently agrees on.
@@someoneinasia Oh yeah? What race does the Shade of Life belong to, hmm..? Why not a seelie? And I care little about what “the majority of lore community currently agrees on” cause that usually turns out to be complete bs like “Alhaitham is King Deshret” or “Baizhu is the Dendro Archon”. People in game may be liars or wrong as well. The Irminsul doesn’t alter future, but Nahida told us the opposite. Trust no one. Words are not hard evidence, it has come up in Genshin several times. Deshret’s “sacrifice” is also one of those things that come up again and again… But look at the underground map. From the weird suction-pyramid to Apep’s territory. Take note of his fragmentation technology. The Golden Slumber was a water hivemind. The elemental creatures in Apep resemble water creatures because Deshret FLOODED them with hivemind water that contained a FRAGMENT of him, and all the victims of the Gurabad catastrophe! I can make my own theories, thank you.😊
The Primordial One's last known appearance that we know from texts is in Khaneri'ah reversing the destruction (Abyssal Corruption) before Celestia scorched Khaneri'ah, this is from a literal translation from CN to EN of Dainsleif's playable introduction. Most likely, the Gods are fragments of the Primordial One's power, which should only happen after the war of vengeance against the Dragons.
can u elaborate on this? ur the second person to mention. im aware of the dains intro quote, but Im not aware it references the primoridal one: The original calamity had been overturned, yet the island in the sky set the earth to burn. Chalk pursues gold, in this time inopportune, the eclipse is swallowed by the crimson moon. The future must atone for bygone mistakes, as the bond familiar falters and breaks- of the same blood, elders and the youth... Such is the cycle of the world, in truth. Dain, what is that strand of blonde hair to you? Someone you must kill? Or the object of your penitence?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia "The Primordial reversed the destruction; the Sky Island scorched the Land Nation. Chalk pursues Gold; The Crimson Moon seeks vengeance on the Black Sun. The future saves the past; the elder and the younger of the same blood destroy each other--such is the cyclical fate of this world. Dain, for you, what does that strand of golden hair signify? Someone you must kill, or the recipient of your confession/penitence." (Black Sun = Eclipse Dynasty here) -----Someone who claims to know fate well Source: A Literal Translation of Dain's Introduction in Genshin_Lore subreddit. 原初 - Primordial/Original 原初逆转了毁灭 - "The Primordial reversed the destruction" as the literal translation vs "The original calamity had been overturned" for the official translation. EN translations has sometimes messed up before and I tend to like the literal translation over it as I think it makes Dain's introduction much clearer and straightforward.
Phanes is hiding under mondstadt greatly weakend and Venti is sucking the souls of the dead to feed him back to strenght. Source: it was revealed to me in a dream
Honestly if thats true based of the Gods Barbatos is based off of it's a possibility that Venti could be Phanes by reference to the fact Phanes is equated to Eros and Dionysus, two gods who already have such powerful references to Venti. Also the fact that Phanes and Venti are both androgynous gods with wings. The only difference is that Venti doesn't have a crown (even tho he did after the archon war, the people of Mondstadt decorated him with laurels which are also seen as crowns in greece)
The goat THE PRIMORDIAL ONE can’t possibly be dead. Two of its shades govern life and death. He was most likely gravely injured and in order to keep tyvat stable and safe (like the benevolent god he is) separated his power and authority over the elements into the gnosis using the 3rd descenders corpse as a base then had the archon war to make sure only those most worthy would safe guard them. Which means Focalors is fucking shit up all because the oceanids and Egeria weren’t satisfied with being god like water spirits. And essentially luring a star eating space narwhal to tyvat and them not wanting to deal with their rightful punishment. Which no one will even die to they will just go back to being oceanids. I need a nickname for focalors now
Didn't Dainslef mention that The Primordial One sacrifice himself to save Teyvat during the Cataclysm? That's what I've heard online unless I'm wrong. Otherwise, this theory is something to think about I've often wondered if perhaps there was a coup in Celestia during or before the Cataclysm and something usurped The Primordial One; thus is now running the show. Maybe the Tsarista is actually loyal after all and the gathering of the Gnosis is her way of somehow restoring The Primordial One.
I wonder if "all fragments of the primordial" refers to the moon sisters since we know they fought each other and most of them died, and there's the really high chance that the moon sisters were the primordial one's shades, and technically "fragments of the primordial" could just be another way to refer to the shades.
what would "drive" them to do that however? For instance in the archon war, it was the "laws" and heavens will that necessitated the killings, but what about in the case of the moon sisters? i will say however I remember hearing the moon sisters were "martyred" which does given credence to this
There's some contradiction in moon sister story, the nabu malikata refers to primordial one as a master of the 4 shining shades but she refers someone to ruler and the moon sister fell in love with morning stars actually the istaroth the phosphorus the hesperus are morning stars itself so does moon sisters are seperate entities from phanes, and the khaenri'ahns believes the fate is a seperate concept from usurpers they said the pale fate kneels to usurpers the fate that wowen by her
I have my own theory tbh, you know how arlechinno kills ppl and they turn into shades? What if the OG crimson moon deity killed phanes which created the 4 shades
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia well we don’t really know yet, maybe arlechinno was once that deity who after slaying phanes was cursed with reincarnation without past selves memories?
in Greek mythology, entire new races of divine entities are born from blood, body parts or other bodily fluids of the 'primal' deities when they fell onto the earth, sea, fire etc (e.g. Aphrodite, a metric ton of nymphs or nature spirits of any kind, etc) So I wouldn't put down the possibility that the P.O. either intentionally or accidentally created the gods such as Guizhong, Morax, Orobashi etc through one of these methods.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia about Pangu etc yeah, but I mean more that in for example the War with the Second (or another conflict) the P.O. got wounded and from their essence (whether it be blood or whatever), all the gods as we know them kinda spawned from that essence? Which could explain why they suddenly kinda appeared in the timeline but also why they're called fragments or whatever in Neuvillette's story
I imagine they are in a similar situation to the Soul King in Bleach: SPOILERS: In Bleach the Soul King is a being of immeasurable power who created the world and without him everything would fall apart so he is left in a bubble with his legs and arms cut off to serve as a big battery that keeps the world running.
I'm not watching this yet because i haven't played the story quest, but i just wanted to congratulate you on 20k subs! The 10k QnA felt like yesterday unironically 🤴🎊🎉
I've always theorized of Phanes as someone who may have lost a great deal of their power's after the archon qar to establish a new order which should be upheld by heavenly principals A sun who turned into a moon just to find a Brighter sun that could save, destroy,sustain and create Paimon guiding traveler to Phane's an ascension that would change fate of the world
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yeah but most instances are during archon war like nabu malikata warning not to seek him or envoys not helping chenyu vale and since they had to choose 7 those who can hold the authority it makes sense thry may have had powers till archon war
I have a theory i like to believe that after the Great Calamity ended The Primordial One created 7 Original Gods whose inherited the Primordial One's blessings. The Primordial One was called the Sovereign of the Sovereigns, the word Sovereign also means King and a certain set of Gods were hailed as God Kings who can be called God Sovereigns and can also be called The Sovereigns if the Primordial One. Its possible that the Archon Wars were started to test these Original Gods but sadly only one of them succeeded the trial that being Morax. After seeing the betrayal of Amun and the flaws in his creation, PO could have created the Gnoses to keep these powerful beings on a leash. After this he could have gone into statis kinda like the Odinsleep as Nahida says that Celestia is currently Dormant
another funny thing: from what i remember Phanes is the only one with an irl god name while the others have two names, an irl demon name and a made up name (by the Dev). Kinda wonder what Phanes made up name is, it would be funny Phanes second identity was erased via irminsul and the identity of Phanes or Primordial One is similar to the Scaracat fairy tail book thing.
My understanding is that the primordial fragments are four shining shades. I think that in that battle the shades died, but the PO was wounded. There is also the possibility that Phanes is not PO. They are two different characters.
@@nicolas._.2294 I don't think POs and shades are divine beings in the classical sense. There are many indications that PO came from planet Earth. I don't think they are immortal. Also, all these labels Shade of Death or Shade of Life should be treated with great carefully. Don't forget that Teyvat is a rather archaic world. If a being with superpowers like herrschers from Honkai Impact were to arrive, believe me, that being would be said to be a god. However, we know that herrschers are not immortal. I wrote in the Alice video that PO and shades are probably connected to Honkai Impact. In order not to re-write the whole long text, I will simply copy my answer here. As for Shade of Time, we don't know if she is really life in physical manifestation. Perhaps she simply exists as consciousness in time matter and from there she can somehow influence things. Besides, nothing has been known about Shade of Time for a very long time either. When has there been any news about her? Enkanomiya and the fact that she helped with the Sacred Sacra, but when exactly did she help in terms of the time slice? That is unknown. Maybe it was a very long time ago. It is not forgotten that Sacred sacura grew simultaneously in the past, present and future. So god only knows when exactly some manipulation was done.
@@nicolas._.2294 Here is my very lond explanation Oh i have so much to say about Alice! Or rather, about everything related to her. So I immediately apologize for my long post. Also note that I could be very, very wrong. I will try to present my theory as briefly as possible. So - I believe that Alice is the technical officer of the PO. To explain this, I have to explain everything. If you haven't noticed, a lot of things in Teyvat are closely connected to the Earth. For example, the Moon looks exactly the same as it does on Earth. For what reason would whoever created the false sky need to put a copy of Earth's moon in it? Right - because this appearance of the moon is significant for him. This proves that PO most likely came from Earth, because PO needs to know how the Moon looks from Earth. Who is PO and four shining shades? I think spaceships came from Earth looking for new planets. Don't know why or what happened. Maybe humanity came to an end on Earth. The prototype for PO could be Kevin Kaslana. Prototypes of four shining shades could be herrschers. Could Kevin Kaslana and his four herrschers defeat the dragons? I think it's quite possible. Kevin Kaslana was the leader of a group of colonialists. So usurper king. Later, a Sutainer (the prototype Herrscher of Finality) arrived from another spaceship to help Kevin and stayed on Teyvat as a boss - to maintain order, oversee the crew's work, and restart samsara when the time came. What happened next to Kevin and the four herrshers is not clear. Maybe he healed his injuries after the battle and flew off to inspect other already colonized planets. Will probably come back to check what's happening on Teyvat. But then what about the book Before sun and moon? This book is simply a beautiful legend about how the world was created. How to explain all this to the people of ancient times? Of course, with gods and such. These people had gods everywhere - god of lightning, god of the sea, god of the sun, etc. The fact that it is based on a biblical story only proves that PO was connected to Earth. Remember what Nicole said - trust only your eyes. What is not seen is an illusion. And what do we not see? We see no temples or churches to the mighty god of creation. Not even in the ancient murals is the mighty Primordial One anywhere. Funny, isn't it? Every spacecraft needs a crew and here we come to Alice and Hexenzirkel in general. The Hexenzirkel is a crew that serves the colony and does all sorts of other things like maintains or scientific research. The crew is made up of The Flame-Chasers. This explains the long lives of all these Hexenzirkel witches and that they were not afraid to challenge Venti. My prototype candidates: Alice (Elysia - elf-like ears. Elysian Realm) - a technical specialist who maintains the colony's protective barrier and possibly monitors the functionality of the Irminsul. Barbeloth (Aponia - she has the mysterious ability to see the threads of Fate) - strategic planner and forecaster. Rhinedottir (Mobius) - a scientist specializing in molecular biology and DNA engineering. Nicole (Fu Hua with Key of Sentience which can link together multiple consciousnesses for communication) - communication specialist, psychologist, possibly with telepathic abilities. Of course, Alice could visit other planets to help with technical problems on them. How else could she travel to other planets if not with PO's permission? The crew has its own base, which I believe is on Celestia. Why? Because in Monstand, on the statue of Venti it is written - gateway to Celestia. There is probably a portal to Celestia under the statue of Venti. Now it is clear why Alice lives in Monstand and why all witches children are in Monstand in general. In case something bad happens, they can quickly get to safety. But what about Klee? So can Flame-Chaser have a child? It may not be possible, but if you have a friend who is a scientist specializing in molecular biology and DNA engineering, then everything is possible. Rhinedottir simply created Klee for Alice from her DNA. That's all this time. Although I have a lot more to say about the Arcon war, the many gods and more.
I just finished fighting Sunday, and there's a line he said that made me think of how it parallels to genshin impact? "MY SOLE OBJECTIVE IS TO CREATE A PARADISE FREE FROM AEONS, WHERE ORDER ENSURES THE DIGNITY AND HAPPINESS OF ALL HUMANITY. A PARADISE EXCLUSIVE TO US HUMAN BEINGS." Does this not sound like something that the Primordial one did themselves when fighting the sovereigns to create humanity and the barrier around teyvat? I now genuinely believe that the Primordial one is an alternative universe version of Sunday who realized his plan of order.
Me too I think of it when I did the quest. So many things in Penacony echoing too well with Genshin. Even the cocktail web-event drop a bomb. It make me crazy. XD
@@KallaTheYapper347 Black Swan is the worst for that, everything she said is so sus! Like at the end of the movie about the story of Penacony when she said it's an original method for keep memory of the truth. No it's normal in Genshin, it's Kabukimono story again! XD
Dawit easily creates the most entertaining lore theory videos. The others are so monotonous i thought i was listening to a flatline only to realize that my soul left my body to find something else to do 😂
I just keep thinking: Elemental beings can be different forms that co-existed with dragons and over time became fond of humans and the new order of the world. Another point: Pahnes created "shadows" of himself. We can undoubtedly have 4 versions of Pahnes with a similar appearance. Who did Pahnes leave in charge of Irminsul before Rukadevata became its avatar? Himself or one of the shadows? I return to my theory: When in before the sun and the moon, it is said about the tale of the heavenly tree. If Pahnes had to sacrifice the tree with the greatest power, who are we talking about? I already theorized this in response to another video, and well, I find it interesting as questions about sacrifice and gnosis fit together...........We just need to put the puzzle together
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yeahh…it’s a sad theory, but at the same time it’s super interesting. I honestly really want Teyvat to just end up being fucked. It would be really cool to see the traveler just snap
Personally I think the PO is just badly hurt and needs rest. Like the whole testatament of god rested on the seventh day. Meaning for teyva since time moves faster than normal we are in. Trouble of his personal dreamscape. And once he gets his energy back they'll probably put the world back to normal.
3:00 Isnt the game called 'original god' in chinese or something similar? I always found it weird to read things on weibo with paimons face next to the name of the game because of that
@DAWIT we know dvalin was born from convergence of elemental energy we also know elemental forms can be born from highly condensed elemental energy like slimes or elemental spirits maybe after primordial one losing absolute authority and control over elements these creatures and gods started to form across teyvat but no clue what fragments of primordial were led to devour eachother mean it could mean the previous era envoys like seelies or moon sisters
I mean if the primordial one *'loud blasting siren noise*' is dead that would only kinda explains the sight that Vanessa is treated to after entering Celestia. Some strange shadowed mass silhouette that we have no idea just wtf it is
Um, we know the gnoseese are made from the body of the a descender, at least that's what Skirk said. Up until now, I thought they were made from the seccond-who-came, but this makes me think they might be made from the primordial one instead.....
We do know some gods existed early on. Such as Egeria, who seems to have been created to replace the Water Dragon Sovereign who died fighting the Primordial One. While others, like Rukkadevata, seem to have appeared around the time of Second Who Came's arrival. Maybe some of the gods were invited by Primordial One to participate in his project, and the Second Who Came was just the most notable of them? Alternatively, gods are "resentment of the world" given shape. Might of the elements from the time before the world was made fit for humans, condensed into a being of great power. Some theorists think that beyond the gnosis and the authority of Archons, many gods also possess a "fragment of the Primordial" that gives them godlike powers, but might have influenced them to start fighting each other in the Archon War. Kind of like Dvalin was influenced by Durin's blood. Also, I can't shake the feeling that to dragons, Primordial One is the Formidable Father, and the Usurper-king is a different person, perhaps Second Who Came. Why else call him "a bunch of filthy feathers"? Surely a being that kicked all their draconic asses would command more respect from them. Damn, so much thoughts, but they aren't building up into a proper picture. There is so much we do not know.
There was the name card or the like that has 'the Sustainer is fading away, the Creator has yet to come, but you shall ascend to the throne of God' or the like...
This makes me think of Prometheus. Specifically the part where, as a punishment for gifting fire to Humanity, Zeus bound Prometheus with chains and sent an eagle to eat his immortal liver every day, which then grew back every night. HIS IMMORTAL LIVER WAS EATEN THEN IT GREW BACK. What if, Phanes body parts were forcefully (or willingly ???) taken away from him to create other gods ? And if they grow back like a lizard tail or Prometheus' liver ... he doesn't have to be dead.
Adding to the theory ? Maybe tsaritsa's plan all along was to forge gnosis into the Primordial One again then defeating thee heavenly principals and reverting the original order of the world
i always ask why the 2nd who came helped heavenly principles in creating the gnoses? heavenly principle is weakened and lost the authority, but instead of trying to defeat the heavenly principle, the 2nd chose to help? wtf, why.
wait the 2nd who came wounded the primordial one? " the usurper(PO) and one who came together created the gnoses together" it seems to me that they are allies.
I'm starting to think that maybe the sustainer is not one of the gods living in Celestia but rather the *only one left* Maybe the primordial one is corrupted to the point where he's pretty much unable to fufill his duties like a powerless old man. Everyone might have left or died expect for the Sustainer who now has to deal the workload of an entire continent by herself. This might explain : - Why she calls herself the Sustainer not because it was the title assigned to her by the primordial one but instead she calls herself like that since she's the only sustaining the current order. - Why is Celestia is so passive : Well because she's busy dealing with other stuff like I don't know MAINTAINING THE FIRMAMENT. - Why she's abducted the twins : because she need helps dealing with all that abyss shit pouring out and maybe someone worthy of leading teyvat by her side. Spoiler alert for HI3D : Kiana at the end of the story part 1 become pretty much the de facto goddess of Earth alongside her friends like Raiden Mei and Bronya. Maybe the sustainer is a Kiana Expy because she's in the same position as her but instead she's completely alone. Basically all gods are dead or got alzheimer so she had to be the fucking elder care + dealing with the grand childrens aka humanity and the archons.
dont tell me that primodial one make his parts as super humans and aether and lumine were the strongest parts but after witnessing the tevyet they wanted to leave only to be sealed inside so that when the time came they can help people of tevyet
Dont worry pimp, the Primordial One will no longer be an issue because..... The Hell Divers will eventually reach Teyvat and liberate Teyvat once and for all 😂😂😂
yo i know some theo songs are crazy but furina being istaroth nah that's so far reached but maybe the primordial one split him self into the four shades?
Also the ei and makoto born from the thunder? And they have the power before the archon war also egeria born with the authority of the dragon sovereign
Theory : primodeal one is dead and the 2nd one taken her place and made irminsul and erased everyone memory so nobody will know her crime and named herself as Primodeal one and the truth of her crime is known as forbidden knowledge
i know this might sound a little bit corny or repetitive, but i think Paimon is the Primordial One in weakened state. Paimon is just the most weird and unexplained character in the whole Genshin lore. Like where did she come from? what's her deal with the traveler? why does she have a floating crown and has constellations all over her when she moves?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia there's also no book, no artifact no anything that explains what Paimon is. It's just too weird they don't hint anything about Paimon.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia i mean yeah, voicelines that barely explains what Paimon is. it's nearly Snezhnaya and there's no clear explaination to what Paimon is or used to be. atleast a book or something that explains her origins even if it's indirectly talking about her just like Perinheri
Man we already know the gnosis are fragments of the third descender. The next chapter is called ode of resurrection. Now i know it's hard for genshin players to actually use their brains but let's put 2 and 2 together. The fatui are trying to resurrect the third or summon something with his power
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Yeah. imagine if you were the Primordial One, a Progenitor God from beyond the Stars, and you saw Asmoday (The Sustainer) ruining and destroying Teyvat's original order (aka Ctrl Alt Deleting Neuvillettes family), one: would you tap that, and two: Would you HELP?
The fact that in the beginning you couldn't even say the primordial one was dead is so me when someone say something about venti that is lowkey true it was also so funny to me you also lost me at the madara and sukuna part
madara was too strong which led to a situation where no matter what, his loss was going to be unsatisfying. same things going on with sukuna. hes way too strong rn and as such whatever method they use to defeat him could end up feeling cheap in the end
Humans *can* use Elemental magic without Visions, it's just a lot harder. Khemia, Onmyoujutsu, Adeptal Arts, the various achievements of the Akademiya and the Fontaine Institute of Technology, Mona's Hydromancy, Yelan's Hydro Arrows, arguably everything done by the Narzissenkreuz Ordo, etc... were all attained without Visions.
huh isnt half the stuff you mentioned is either just tech or something else? 1. Khemia- Alchemy 2. onmyoujutsu- i have no clue what this is lmfao 3. adeptal arts- humans cant become adepti 4. akademiya- what achievments? creating a god? that didnt involve a human using elements without a vision 5. fontaine institue of technology- its in its name 6. mona hydromancy- hydromancy and astrology doesnt involve being able to weild elements 5. yelan hydro arrows- im an expert on yelan lore but id imagine she can do this cause she has a hydro vision? humans cannot use elemental powers without a vision. this has been established for quite some time now, this is why the raiden shogun called the traveler an "exception" , and is part of the reason albedo was fascinated with the traveler
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia 1. Alchemy is Elemental magic, which is taught in the Akademiya (it was Lisa's Darshan's specialty, and she was able to create stuff that even Albedo finds impressive with it). 2 and 3. Onmyoujutsu is the elemental magic that Kamuna Harunosuke created specifically for people without Visions after he studied under the Adepti, and is what the Kairagi use to become Pyro/Electro diet-Noelles, as well as what he used to create the Onmyou Chamber pocket dimension domain and sentient shikigami 4/5. Creating domains and complex alchemical solutions like the Faze potions 6. Mona explicitly uses Hydro magic to do her Hydromancy, and was given the Vision after learning it. Similarly, Yelan's Profile shows that Ningguang witnessed her getting her Vision *after* developing and mastering her Hydro Arrows to great precision. The Traveler is still an anomoly since they are able to resonate with elements to the point that they are at least as good with them as Vision wielders without a Vision, but tons of people in lore have used elemental magic without Visions. Heck, the Narzissenkreuz Ordo was doing massive magical things while explicitly trying *not* to get Visions, though they get an asterisk because they were technically not *human* humans, and some of the things they did were explicitly because they had constitutions similar to Egeria.
@lnsflare1 ye, true. Take arlechino having her own cursed fire powers.(even tho I am not sure how much of a human she is) Signora used some weird magic and becomes a being made out of fire(with control over fire) I am not sure if this 2 count but yours do, like the samurai using that technique MONA even says she doesn't even needs her vision
Doubt, Dawit? Doubt?! Tis beneath you! Speak not such blasphemy lest I tear mine robes, don sackcloth, and anoint ash upon mine head! Say it not so, Dawit! Say it ain't so! *Uncontrolled lamentatious sobbing* On another note, have you heard of the theory as to why we always have one oculi left over after searching for every element's own oculi? It could be nothing, but I would like to think that after all is said and done, the traveller shall ascend, and all the left over oculi would be used to ornate the newest statue of 7, now 8. Might be cool looking into, it could tie in to the whole ascending thing and what the traveller's role is in the story really.
Personally I kinda think that, in his weakened state, the primordial one may have been killed by the Sustainer so she could seize power, maybe because she didn’t agree with his views? I dunno but I think it’s plausible
Don’t worry, on the third day he will resurrect, assuming our Lord and Saviour the Primordial One is even dead. Also shout out to the Sukuna Cycle and Madara’s horrible death. The Primordial probably meant the original world because they called our Lord the Usurper, not the Primordial One in that story.
we know divine rules and fortuna's threads of fate are still controlling teyvat and still working as seen from fontaine flood did end up happening no matter what primordial one cant be dead if he is the threads himself or the one controlling the threads
Nah, he ain't dead. He's chillin' till he regains his full power. Then, he shall return to glory and defeat the usurper king as the one and only PRIMORDIAL ONE, A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING, from beyond the stars.
I mean....thecnically, venti and focalor come from 2 shades.....thecnically focalor comee from eugeria that comes from a shade that it's a part of the PO becs shades are part of him so like...idk Anyway you cooked here, more or less....some of it are very bad burned but in rest it's pretty good
Dawit come here I'm gonna fess up ... remember when Kazuha used a second vision? *from another element even* ... didn’t you feel that was wierd aight time to fess up *Kazu killed him with the Fillet Blade and cooked himself a primordial fried iguana with that old man*
For me Genshin really like gnosticism... let's say, like God is different from Jesus. The Userper King is God and (maybe) Traveller is Jesus and Paimon is an apostle. Traveller witness almost everything in the world of Teyvat and the "Second Coming" is, if by any chance, the theory in which the Tsaritsa is reviving someone whose in gnosis, let's say it maybe Nibelung (I doubt it, but maybe Userper King and Dragon's vital powers) he will come and judge humanity. What I'm saying is The Primordial One isn't necessarily dead but everywhere in Teyvat, cannot be seen but can be heard and felt (maybe somewhere in Irminsul we can find an answer?).
dawit, i think i should really appreciate your channel more. maybe you’re fat but you’ve been nothing but nice to me and with there with me through my darkest times ever since i gave you my discord. i dont know that much fat people. i know 5 fat guys and you’re 4 of them. but you mean a lot
look i get ur trying to sound like derpy and like funny i get that i really do but constantly saying the primordial one all the time and like how ur saying isnt doing much and maybe tone it down with that bc i seriously cant get past ur videos after u say that
not doing much for you* and thats fine lol nothing wrong with that. id just suggest u watch another lore content creator tho cause im not changing that. theres plenty of other fantastic ones in the scene
Imma say this…. 1st and 2nd are Phanes and his shades.. primordial and celestia.. I thinks Phanes loved humans BUT refused to let them evolve/grow/ascended.. like a overbearing parent who IMPOSED his idea of happiness on humanity… WHILE his shades actually disagreed and wanted life to evoke grow ascend etc.. so Celestia is the “2nd” simple cause they OVERTHREW the 1st .. the war was over a DIFFERENCE in opinion/direction of how to lead humans.. Phanes retreated with his FEW humans underground while celesta/shades/moonsister took over the surface.. and thus is why HUMANS and other beings can ASCEND.. Phanes BIRTHED humans yea but he was crap at “raising” them aka celestia sought allow humans to actually leave the nest and GROW.. Phanes wanted to prevent this aka kept them SHELTERED aka Phanes goal of nothing but happiness.. aka no pain no brown no struggle no overcoming.. which is what CELESTIA saw as CRUCIAL to LIFE.. we can’t be sheltered 💀
I don’t think so.
this is just the kind of confirmation bias i was looking for
But if they devoured each other,Wouldn’t that mean the 2nd descender died as well?
Which would make more power for gnoses?
i personally skew towards the second descender either being (or heavily affiliated) with nibelung. so ya im betting SWC is dead
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia i thought nubileng was the third???
@rinkudamanrd could be. but nah i dont think so
The way bro comes up with a new crackhead theory every couple or so is insane, bro never stops cooking.
i like ur pfp lol
I'm gonna say it man. Your primordial one propaganda is so absolutely hilarious and by far the best thing about your videos (in a good way I promise)
:D PROPOGANDA
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia like pop off king spread the gospel of THE PRIMORDIAL ONE!
It's to the point I internally say his name in your voice the same way you say it XD
Thank you for this tragic explanation on THEPRIMORDIALONEAPROGENITORGODFROMBEYONDTHESTARS📯 Dah-wheat.
justbecauseididntwantodeliverthenewsdoesntmeanicant
It’s possible that Nabu isn’t actually a god, and was just classified as that by the modern era because her status as essentially Genshin’s equivalent of an angel gave her god-like power.
“God” in Genshin mainly just seems to be a way of quantifying a being power level (for the most part). So it’s possible characters like Nabu, Zhongli, and Guizhong became Gods because they met the requirements. This is almost confirmed because that’s basically what happened to Venti.
but why did they all appear at roughly the same time? did something happen to let beings accrue more power all of a sudden around that time? was there simply more power available because of an incident?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Perhaps the residual power from the war with the second who came caused several new gods to born at that time
Nabu is very sus. I think she’s the Shade of Life. The power of water, plants, and dreams all belonged to her originally. We know Rukkhadevata “inherited” dreams and plants, while Egeria, the og hydro archon actually fought on her land, and when she died, the bird Nabu created drank up the lake and scattered to pieces. Khvarena. What IS khvarena? An EQUAL OPPOSITE to Abyss! Above all elements, and confirmed to be the power source of the machines of Khaenri’ah.
@@yYSilverFoxYy nope, she was not the shade of life.
according to artifact of paradise lost, she is implied to be one of the surviving seelie race. which is what the majority of lore community currently agrees on.
@@someoneinasia Oh yeah? What race does the Shade of Life belong to, hmm..? Why not a seelie? And I care little about what “the majority of lore community currently agrees on” cause that usually turns out to be complete bs like “Alhaitham is King Deshret” or “Baizhu is the Dendro Archon”.
People in game may be liars or wrong as well. The Irminsul doesn’t alter future, but Nahida told us the opposite. Trust no one. Words are not hard evidence, it has come up in Genshin several times.
Deshret’s “sacrifice” is also one of those things that come up again and again… But look at the underground map. From the weird suction-pyramid to Apep’s territory. Take note of his fragmentation technology. The Golden Slumber was a water hivemind. The elemental creatures in Apep resemble water creatures because Deshret FLOODED them with hivemind water that contained a FRAGMENT of him, and all the victims of the Gurabad catastrophe!
I can make my own theories, thank you.😊
The Primordial One's last known appearance that we know from texts is in Khaneri'ah reversing the destruction (Abyssal Corruption) before Celestia scorched Khaneri'ah, this is from a literal translation from CN to EN of Dainsleif's playable introduction. Most likely, the Gods are fragments of the Primordial One's power, which should only happen after the war of vengeance against the Dragons.
can u elaborate on this? ur the second person to mention. im aware of the dains intro quote, but Im not aware it references the primoridal one:
The original calamity had been overturned, yet the island in the sky set the earth to burn. Chalk pursues gold, in this time inopportune, the eclipse is swallowed by the crimson moon. The future must atone for bygone mistakes, as the bond familiar falters and breaks- of the same blood, elders and the youth... Such is the cycle of the world, in truth. Dain, what is that strand of blonde hair to you? Someone you must kill? Or the object of your penitence?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia "The Primordial reversed the destruction; the Sky Island scorched the Land Nation. Chalk pursues Gold; The Crimson Moon seeks vengeance on the Black Sun. The future saves the past; the elder and the younger of the same blood destroy each other--such is the cyclical fate of this world. Dain, for you, what does that strand of golden hair signify? Someone you must kill, or the recipient of your confession/penitence." (Black Sun = Eclipse Dynasty here)
-----Someone who claims to know fate well
Source: A Literal Translation of Dain's Introduction in Genshin_Lore subreddit.
原初 - Primordial/Original
原初逆转了毁灭 - "The Primordial reversed the destruction" as the literal translation vs "The original calamity had been overturned" for the official translation. EN translations has sometimes messed up before and I tend to like the literal translation over it as I think it makes Dain's introduction much clearer and straightforward.
Phanes is hiding under mondstadt greatly weakend and Venti is sucking the souls of the dead to feed him back to strenght.
Source: it was revealed to me in a dream
bros a prophet
Honestly if thats true based of the Gods Barbatos is based off of it's a possibility that Venti could be Phanes by reference to the fact Phanes is equated to Eros and Dionysus, two gods who already have such powerful references to Venti.
Also the fact that Phanes and Venti are both androgynous gods with wings. The only difference is that Venti doesn't have a crown (even tho he did after the archon war, the people of Mondstadt decorated him with laurels which are also seen as crowns in greece)
the amount of effort to saying theprimordialoneaprogenitorgodhailingfrombeyondthestar everytime it mentioned must are extraordinary
itsaseasytosayasitistobreathe
The goat THE PRIMORDIAL ONE can’t possibly be dead. Two of its shades govern life and death. He was most likely gravely injured and in order to keep tyvat stable and safe (like the benevolent god he is) separated his power and authority over the elements into the gnosis using the 3rd descenders corpse as a base then had the archon war to make sure only those most worthy would safe guard them. Which means Focalors is fucking shit up all because the oceanids and Egeria weren’t satisfied with being god like water spirits. And essentially luring a star eating space narwhal to tyvat and them not wanting to deal with their rightful punishment. Which no one will even die to they will just go back to being oceanids. I need a nickname for focalors now
i pray ur right burstlogic
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia u came up with a nickname for focalors, foCACAlors
@burstlogic3457 imagine the goddess of all water being called poop
@@burstlogic3457how about Fecalores?
@@bisayafascist5725 that's even better
Didn't Dainslef mention that The Primordial One sacrifice himself to save Teyvat during the Cataclysm? That's what I've heard online unless I'm wrong. Otherwise, this theory is something to think about
I've often wondered if perhaps there was a coup in Celestia during or before the Cataclysm and something usurped The Primordial One; thus is now running the show. Maybe the Tsarista is actually loyal after all and the gathering of the Gnosis is her way of somehow restoring The Primordial One.
did he?
I wonder if "all fragments of the primordial" refers to the moon sisters since we know they fought each other and most of them died, and there's the really high chance that the moon sisters were the primordial one's shades, and technically "fragments of the primordial" could just be another way to refer to the shades.
what would "drive" them to do that however?
For instance in the archon war, it was the "laws" and heavens will that necessitated the killings, but what about in the case of the moon sisters?
i will say however I remember hearing the moon sisters were "martyred" which does given credence to this
There's some contradiction in moon sister story, the nabu malikata refers to primordial one as a master of the 4 shining shades but she refers someone to ruler and the moon sister fell in love with morning stars actually the istaroth the phosphorus the hesperus are morning stars itself so does moon sisters are seperate entities from phanes, and the khaenri'ahns believes the fate is a seperate concept from usurpers they said the pale fate kneels to usurpers the fate that wowen by her
I have my own theory tbh, you know how arlechinno kills ppl and they turn into shades? What if the OG crimson moon deity killed phanes which created the 4 shades
whose the crimson moon deity
@@DawitsLookingforEmiliame actually
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia well we don’t really know yet, maybe arlechinno was once that deity who after slaying phanes was cursed with reincarnation without past selves memories?
are you one of crackhead dragon king nibelung's follower?
in Greek mythology, entire new races of divine entities are born from blood, body parts or other bodily fluids of the 'primal' deities when they fell onto the earth, sea, fire etc (e.g. Aphrodite, a metric ton of nymphs or nature spirits of any kind, etc) So I wouldn't put down the possibility that the P.O. either intentionally or accidentally created the gods such as Guizhong, Morax, Orobashi etc through one of these methods.
doesnt venti say something similar to this in the manga
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia about Pangu etc yeah, but I mean more that in for example the War with the Second (or another conflict) the P.O. got wounded and from their essence (whether it be blood or whatever), all the gods as we know them kinda spawned from that essence? Which could explain why they suddenly kinda appeared in the timeline but also why they're called fragments or whatever in Neuvillette's story
Its Paimon duh
BUT IM RIGHT HERE- IM- AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH *vanishes*
omg! primordial one :3
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I guess I'm planning my own funeral...☹️
I imagine they are in a similar situation to the Soul King in Bleach:
SPOILERS:
In Bleach the Soul King is a being of immeasurable power who created the world and without him everything would fall apart so he is left in a bubble with his legs and arms cut off to serve as a big battery that keeps the world running.
this is interesting. i think this is actually part of the rational for why the sovereigns get reincarnated
IVE WAITED FOR THIS DAY FOR FOREVER
yea ur a monster
I'm not watching this yet because i haven't played the story quest, but i just wanted to congratulate you on 20k subs! The 10k QnA felt like yesterday unironically 🤴🎊🎉
aw thanks barny ily
I've always theorized of Phanes as someone who may have lost a great deal of their power's after the archon qar to establish a new order which should be upheld by heavenly principals
A sun who turned into a moon just to find a Brighter sun that could save, destroy,sustain and create Paimon guiding traveler to Phane's an ascension that would change fate of the world
would have had to be before the archon war
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yeah but most instances are during archon war like nabu malikata warning not to seek him or envoys not helping chenyu vale and since they had to choose 7 those who can hold the authority it makes sense thry may have had powers till archon war
I have a theory i like to believe that after the Great Calamity ended The Primordial One created 7 Original Gods whose inherited the Primordial One's blessings.
The Primordial One was called the Sovereign of the Sovereigns, the word Sovereign also means King and a certain set of Gods were hailed as God Kings who can be called God Sovereigns and can also be called The Sovereigns if the Primordial One. Its possible that the Archon Wars were started to test these Original Gods but sadly only one of them succeeded the trial that being Morax. After seeing the betrayal of Amun and the flaws in his creation, PO could have created the Gnoses to keep these powerful beings on a leash.
After this he could have gone into statis kinda like the Odinsleep as Nahida says that Celestia is currently Dormant
another funny thing: from what i remember Phanes is the only one with an irl god name while the others have two names, an irl demon name and a made up name (by the Dev).
Kinda wonder what Phanes made up name is, it would be funny Phanes second identity was erased via irminsul and the identity of Phanes or Primordial One is similar to the Scaracat fairy tail book thing.
this is a good point
My understanding is that the primordial fragments are four shining shades. I think that in that battle the shades died, but the PO was wounded.
There is also the possibility that Phanes is not PO. They are two different characters.
If the shades died, then how did the shade of time help us? And how exactly do you kill the shade who controls dead? Or life
@@nicolas._.2294 I don't think POs and shades are divine beings in the classical sense. There are many indications that PO came from planet Earth. I don't think they are immortal. Also, all these labels Shade of Death or Shade of Life should be treated with great carefully. Don't forget that Teyvat is a rather archaic world. If a being with superpowers like herrschers from Honkai Impact were to arrive, believe me, that being would be said to be a god. However, we know that herrschers are not immortal.
I wrote in the Alice video that PO and shades are probably connected to Honkai Impact. In order not to re-write the whole long text, I will simply copy my answer here.
As for Shade of Time, we don't know if she is really life in physical manifestation. Perhaps she simply exists as consciousness in time matter and from there she can somehow influence things. Besides, nothing has been known about Shade of Time for a very long time either. When has there been any news about her? Enkanomiya and the fact that she helped with the Sacred Sacra, but when exactly did she help in terms of the time slice? That is unknown. Maybe it was a very long time ago. It is not forgotten that Sacred sacura grew simultaneously in the past, present and future. So god only knows when exactly some manipulation was done.
@@nicolas._.2294 Here is my very lond explanation
Oh i have so much to say about Alice! Or rather, about everything related to her. So I immediately apologize for my long post. Also note that I could be very, very wrong. I will try to present my theory as briefly as possible.
So - I believe that Alice is the technical officer of the PO. To explain this, I have to explain everything.
If you haven't noticed, a lot of things in Teyvat are closely connected to the Earth. For example, the Moon looks exactly the same as it does on Earth. For what reason would whoever created the false sky need to put a copy of Earth's moon in it? Right - because this appearance of the moon is significant for him. This proves that PO most likely came from Earth, because PO needs to know how the Moon looks from Earth.
Who is PO and four shining shades? I think spaceships came from Earth looking for new planets. Don't know why or what happened. Maybe humanity came to an end on Earth.
The prototype for PO could be Kevin Kaslana. Prototypes of four shining shades could be herrschers. Could Kevin Kaslana and his four herrschers defeat the dragons? I think it's quite possible. Kevin Kaslana was the leader of a group of colonialists. So usurper king.
Later, a Sutainer (the prototype Herrscher of Finality) arrived from another spaceship to help Kevin and stayed on Teyvat as a boss - to maintain order, oversee the crew's work, and restart samsara when the time came. What happened next to Kevin and the four herrshers is not clear. Maybe he healed his injuries after the battle and flew off to inspect other already colonized planets. Will probably come back to check what's happening on Teyvat.
But then what about the book Before sun and moon? This book is simply a beautiful legend about how the world was created. How to explain all this to the people of ancient times? Of course, with gods and such. These people had gods everywhere - god of lightning, god of the sea, god of the sun, etc. The fact that it is based on a biblical story only proves that PO was connected to Earth. Remember what Nicole said - trust only your eyes. What is not seen is an illusion. And what do we not see? We see no temples or churches to the mighty god of creation. Not even in the ancient murals is the mighty Primordial One anywhere. Funny, isn't it?
Every spacecraft needs a crew and here we come to Alice and Hexenzirkel in general. The Hexenzirkel is a crew that serves the colony and does all sorts of other things like maintains or scientific research. The crew is made up of The Flame-Chasers. This explains the long lives of all these Hexenzirkel witches and that they were not afraid to challenge Venti. My prototype candidates:
Alice (Elysia - elf-like ears. Elysian Realm) - a technical specialist who maintains the colony's protective barrier and possibly monitors the functionality of the Irminsul.
Barbeloth (Aponia - she has the mysterious ability to see the threads of Fate) - strategic planner and forecaster.
Rhinedottir (Mobius) - a scientist specializing in molecular biology and DNA engineering.
Nicole (Fu Hua with Key of Sentience which can link together multiple consciousnesses for communication) - communication specialist, psychologist, possibly with telepathic abilities.
Of course, Alice could visit other planets to help with technical problems on them. How else could she travel to other planets if not with PO's permission?
The crew has its own base, which I believe is on Celestia. Why? Because in Monstand, on the statue of Venti it is written - gateway to Celestia. There is probably a portal to Celestia under the statue of Venti. Now it is clear why Alice lives in Monstand and why all witches children are in Monstand in general. In case something bad happens, they can quickly get to safety.
But what about Klee? So can Flame-Chaser have a child? It may not be possible, but if you have a friend who is a scientist specializing in molecular biology and DNA engineering, then everything is possible. Rhinedottir simply created Klee for Alice from her DNA.
That's all this time. Although I have a lot more to say about the Arcon war, the many gods and more.
I just finished fighting Sunday, and there's a line he said that made me think of how it parallels to genshin impact?
"MY SOLE OBJECTIVE IS TO CREATE A PARADISE FREE FROM AEONS, WHERE ORDER ENSURES THE DIGNITY AND HAPPINESS OF ALL HUMANITY. A PARADISE EXCLUSIVE TO US HUMAN BEINGS."
Does this not sound like something that the Primordial one did themselves when fighting the sovereigns to create humanity and the barrier around teyvat?
I now genuinely believe that the Primordial one is an alternative universe version of Sunday who realized his plan of order.
Bruh thinks he's Remus.
Does Sunday even have a Dragon best friend?
i love me some sunday
Me too I think of it when I did the quest. So many things in Penacony echoing too well with Genshin. Even the cocktail web-event drop a bomb. It make me crazy. XD
@capriciaelcid4743 I was feeling the same way when certain dialogue was said, and all my brain could do was connect it to genshin.
@@KallaTheYapper347 Black Swan is the worst for that, everything she said is so sus! Like at the end of the movie about the story of Penacony when she said it's an original method for keep memory of the truth. No it's normal in Genshin, it's Kabukimono story again! XD
Dawit easily creates the most entertaining lore theory videos. The others are so monotonous i thought i was listening to a flatline only to realize that my soul left my body to find something else to do 😂
:D
Ah yes, the gods are fragments of the primordial one and the archon war is them devouring each other. I can get behind this 🤔
I just keep thinking: Elemental beings can be different forms that co-existed with dragons and over time became fond of humans and the new order of the world.
Another point: Pahnes created "shadows" of himself. We can undoubtedly have 4 versions of Pahnes with a similar appearance.
Who did Pahnes leave in charge of Irminsul before Rukadevata became its avatar? Himself or one of the shadows? I return to my theory: When in before the sun and the moon, it is said about the tale of the heavenly tree. If Pahnes had to sacrifice the tree with the greatest power, who are we talking about? I already theorized this in response to another video, and well, I find it interesting as questions about sacrifice and gnosis fit together...........We just need to put the puzzle together
No way the *inhales* PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS is dead
no way, no way
IM HERE. I love this theory so much I haven’t even watched the video yet..
i hate it :(
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yeahh…it’s a sad theory, but at the same time it’s super interesting. I honestly really want Teyvat to just end up being fucked. It would be really cool to see the traveler just snap
Personally I think the PO is just badly hurt and needs rest. Like the whole testatament of god rested on the seventh day. Meaning for teyva since time moves faster than normal we are in. Trouble of his personal dreamscape. And once he gets his energy back they'll probably put the world back to normal.
3:00 Isnt the game called 'original god' in chinese or something similar? I always found it weird to read things on weibo with paimons face next to the name of the game because of that
I don’t want you to be right but at the same time you also guessed that Sunday was gonna betray the family and you were correct.
i want to be wrong
@DAWIT we know dvalin was born from convergence of elemental energy
we also know elemental forms can be born from highly condensed elemental energy like slimes or elemental spirits
maybe after primordial one losing absolute authority and control over elements
these creatures and gods started to form across teyvat
but no clue what fragments of primordial were led to devour eachother mean
it could mean the previous era envoys like seelies or moon sisters
fragments devouring id assume means archon war, given they were devouring one another. although some have pointed to the moon sisters as well
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia oh yess archon war
I mean if the primordial one *'loud blasting siren noise*' is dead that would only kinda explains the sight that Vanessa is treated to after entering Celestia. Some strange shadowed mass silhouette that we have no idea just wtf it is
yoo
Nah the horn effect every time you said Primordial One took me out
The way you struggled to say dead also sounded like you said 'Phanes is daddy' XD
It is daddy tho fr fr
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Um, we know the gnoseese are made from the body of the a descender, at least that's what Skirk said. Up until now, I thought they were made from the seccond-who-came, but this makes me think they might be made from the primordial one instead.....
theyre made from the 3rd, but lets not forget there is a gods curse in the gnoses, this could be the influence of phanes
We do know some gods existed early on. Such as Egeria, who seems to have been created to replace the Water Dragon Sovereign who died fighting the Primordial One.
While others, like Rukkadevata, seem to have appeared around the time of Second Who Came's arrival. Maybe some of the gods were invited by Primordial One to participate in his project, and the Second Who Came was just the most notable of them?
Alternatively, gods are "resentment of the world" given shape. Might of the elements from the time before the world was made fit for humans, condensed into a being of great power.
Some theorists think that beyond the gnosis and the authority of Archons, many gods also possess a "fragment of the Primordial" that gives them godlike powers, but might have influenced them to start fighting each other in the Archon War. Kind of like Dvalin was influenced by Durin's blood.
Also, I can't shake the feeling that to dragons, Primordial One is the Formidable Father, and the Usurper-king is a different person, perhaps Second Who Came. Why else call him "a bunch of filthy feathers"? Surely a being that kicked all their draconic asses would command more respect from them.
Damn, so much thoughts, but they aren't building up into a proper picture. There is so much we do not know.
formidable father is most certainly Nibelung id argue
There was the name card or the like that has 'the Sustainer is fading away, the Creator has yet to come, but you shall ascend to the throne of God' or the like...
travelers profile ya
This other channel wei proposed the theory that the primordial one might be dead it makes sense
Yours is also good
i dont want it to be good :(
This makes me think of Prometheus.
Specifically the part where, as a punishment for gifting fire to Humanity, Zeus bound Prometheus with chains and sent an eagle to eat his immortal liver every day, which then grew back every night.
HIS IMMORTAL LIVER WAS EATEN THEN IT GREW BACK.
What if, Phanes body parts were forcefully (or willingly ???) taken away from him to create other gods ?
And if they grow back like a lizard tail or Prometheus' liver ... he doesn't have to be dead.
Adding to the theory ? Maybe tsaritsa's plan all along was to forge gnosis into the Primordial One again then defeating thee heavenly principals and reverting the original order of the world
wonder how that works seeing as the gnoses are the remains of the third, and not the first
But Venti is a descendant of the primordial one, because he is born from thousand winds, the son of Istharoth, so he has that divine fragment in him.
eh
i always ask why the 2nd who came helped heavenly principles in creating the gnoses?
heavenly principle is weakened and lost the authority, but instead of trying to defeat the heavenly principle, the 2nd chose to help? wtf, why.
SURELY WE WILL GET THE SUSTAINER OF HEVENLY PRINCIPLE AS A PLAYABLE!!
100%
wait the 2nd who came wounded the primordial one? " the usurper(PO) and one who came together created the gnoses together" it seems to me that they are allies.
nah
They must fought so hard that they didn't notice the world was ending, and decided to call it truce and try to stabilize the world
I'm starting to think that maybe the sustainer is not one of the gods living in Celestia but rather the *only one left*
Maybe the primordial one is corrupted to the point where he's pretty much unable to fufill his duties like a powerless old man.
Everyone might have left or died expect for the Sustainer who now has to deal the workload of an entire continent by herself.
This might explain :
- Why she calls herself the Sustainer not because it was the title assigned to her by the primordial one but instead she calls herself like that since she's the only sustaining the current order.
- Why is Celestia is so passive : Well because she's busy dealing with other stuff like I don't know MAINTAINING THE FIRMAMENT.
- Why she's abducted the twins : because she need helps dealing with all that abyss shit pouring out and maybe someone worthy of leading teyvat by her side.
Spoiler alert for HI3D :
Kiana at the end of the story part 1 become pretty much the de facto goddess of Earth alongside her friends like Raiden Mei and Bronya.
Maybe the sustainer is a Kiana Expy because she's in the same position as her but instead she's completely alone.
Basically all gods are dead or got alzheimer so she had to be the fucking elder care + dealing with the grand childrens aka humanity and the archons.
Apart of venti that is a part of the primordial one by being a part of istaroth i don't think this could be possible
Im just here to listen to how u hype up CELESTIAA & THE PRIMORDIAL 🔥🔥
dont tell me that primodial one make his parts as super humans and aether and lumine were the strongest parts but after witnessing the tevyet they wanted to leave only to be sealed inside so that when the time came they can help people of tevyet
hmmm
Off topic but Gege loves Sukuna too much. 😂😂😂
Dont worry pimp, the Primordial One will no longer be an issue because.....
The Hell Divers will eventually reach Teyvat and liberate Teyvat once and for all 😂😂😂
i just seen that game in the news cause of the sony thing lol
yo i know some theo
songs are crazy but furina being istaroth nah that's so far reached
but maybe the primordial one split him self into the four shades?
whose theo
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia auto correct theories and ignore the song part i don’t know where did it come from.
Also the ei and makoto born from the thunder? And they have the power before the archon war also egeria born with the authority of the dragon sovereign
we know close to nothing about ei and makoto origins lol
maybe the Fatui is going to bring 🎺THE PRIMODIAL ONE 🎺 back to life in Nathalan ?
wouldnt that be some shit
Cay they use the first decender power can they make like a new decender like a fraction of the power
maybe
That primordial one BGM 💀💀💀
Theory : primodeal one is dead and the 2nd one taken her place and made irminsul and erased everyone memory so nobody will know her crime and named herself as Primodeal one and the truth of her crime is known as forbidden knowledge
did she name herself the PO. she doesnt call herself that
i know this might sound a little bit corny or repetitive, but i think Paimon is the Primordial One in weakened state. Paimon is just the most weird and unexplained character in the whole Genshin lore. Like where did she come from? what's her deal with the traveler? why does she have a floating crown and has constellations all over her when she moves?
paimon is indeed an enigma
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia there's also no book, no artifact no anything that explains what Paimon is. It's just too weird they don't hint anything about Paimon.
they hint at. but just rally subtly. mona voice line, and that one melusine come to mind. enjou too
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia i mean yeah, voicelines that barely explains what Paimon is. it's nearly Snezhnaya and there's no clear explaination to what Paimon is or used to be. atleast a book or something that explains her origins even if it's indirectly talking about her just like Perinheri
Man we already know the gnosis are fragments of the third descender. The next chapter is called ode of resurrection. Now i know it's hard for genshin players to actually use their brains but let's put 2 and 2 together. The fatui are trying to resurrect the third or summon something with his power
what
I have a dumb theory: The First Descender, and the Second Descender fused their power and made 3rd Descender and made gnoses.
what do u mean they made 3rd descender lmfao? like it was their kid?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Yeah.
imagine if you were the Primordial One, a Progenitor God from beyond the Stars, and you saw Asmoday (The Sustainer) ruining and destroying Teyvat's original order (aka Ctrl Alt Deleting Neuvillettes family), one: would you tap that, and two: Would you HELP?
i watched your 10k sub qna, i gotta research legend of saha more😉
go for it champ
The fact that in the beginning you couldn't even say the primordial one was dead is so me when someone say something about venti that is lowkey true it was also so funny to me
you also lost me at the madara and sukuna part
madara was too strong which led to a situation where no matter what, his loss was going to be unsatisfying.
same things going on with sukuna. hes way too strong rn and as such whatever method they use to defeat him could end up feeling cheap in the end
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia oh okay thank you
plz do a video explaining how furina is istaroth
lmao
“deeeeeaaaah deeeeaaaaaah”💀💀
i shant utter it
what the sigma
no
Pls no
No he is alive :D and so is kiana
And they better be playable i am ok with hoyo killing the rest though 😌✋️
amen. kiana playable or we riot
Humans *can* use Elemental magic without Visions, it's just a lot harder. Khemia, Onmyoujutsu, Adeptal Arts, the various achievements of the Akademiya and the Fontaine Institute of Technology, Mona's Hydromancy, Yelan's Hydro Arrows, arguably everything done by the Narzissenkreuz Ordo, etc... were all attained without Visions.
huh
isnt half the stuff you mentioned is either just tech or something else?
1. Khemia- Alchemy
2. onmyoujutsu- i have no clue what this is lmfao
3. adeptal arts- humans cant become adepti
4. akademiya- what achievments? creating a god? that didnt involve a human using elements without a vision
5. fontaine institue of technology- its in its name
6. mona hydromancy- hydromancy and astrology doesnt involve being able to weild elements
5. yelan hydro arrows- im an expert on yelan lore but id imagine she can do this cause she has a hydro vision?
humans cannot use elemental powers without a vision. this has been established for quite some time now, this is why the raiden shogun called the traveler an "exception" , and is part of the reason albedo was fascinated with the traveler
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia 1. Alchemy is Elemental magic, which is taught in the Akademiya (it was Lisa's Darshan's specialty, and she was able to create stuff that even Albedo finds impressive with it).
2 and 3. Onmyoujutsu is the elemental magic that Kamuna Harunosuke created specifically for people without Visions after he studied under the Adepti, and is what the Kairagi use to become Pyro/Electro diet-Noelles, as well as what he used to create the Onmyou Chamber pocket dimension domain and sentient shikigami
4/5. Creating domains and complex alchemical solutions like the Faze potions
6. Mona explicitly uses Hydro magic to do her Hydromancy, and was given the Vision after learning it. Similarly, Yelan's Profile shows that Ningguang witnessed her getting her Vision *after* developing and mastering her Hydro Arrows to great precision.
The Traveler is still an anomoly since they are able to resonate with elements to the point that they are at least as good with them as Vision wielders without a Vision, but tons of people in lore have used elemental magic without Visions. Heck, the Narzissenkreuz Ordo was doing massive magical things while explicitly trying *not* to get Visions, though they get an asterisk because they were technically not *human* humans, and some of the things they did were explicitly because they had constitutions similar to Egeria.
@lnsflare1 ye, true. Take arlechino having her own cursed fire powers.(even tho I am not sure how much of a human she is)
Signora used some weird magic and becomes a being made out of fire(with control over fire) I am not sure if this 2 count but yours do, like the samurai using that technique
MONA even says she doesn't even needs her vision
I doubt it. Primordial One will once again rule Teyvat with an iron fist, you’ll see.
ur right :3
Doubt, Dawit? Doubt?! Tis beneath you!
Speak not such blasphemy lest I tear mine robes, don sackcloth, and anoint ash upon mine head!
Say it not so, Dawit! Say it ain't so! *Uncontrolled lamentatious sobbing*
On another note, have you heard of the theory as to why we always have one oculi left over after searching for every element's own oculi? It could be nothing, but I would like to think that after all is said and done, the traveller shall ascend, and all the left over oculi would be used to ornate the newest statue of 7, now 8.
Might be cool looking into, it could tie in to the whole ascending thing and what the traveller's role is in the story really.
Personally I kinda think that, in his weakened state, the primordial one may have been killed by the Sustainer so she could seize power, maybe because she didn’t agree with his views? I dunno but I think it’s plausible
the sustainer killing the primordial one? hmmmm
Yes dawit pack it up you’re dead wrong!
thank fuck
Don’t worry, on the third day he will resurrect, assuming our Lord and Saviour the Primordial One is even dead. Also shout out to the Sukuna Cycle and Madara’s horrible death. The Primordial probably meant the original world because they called our Lord the Usurper, not the Primordial One in that story.
madara got hoed man
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia He really did. Hopefully Sukuna’s defeat isn’t BS like that.
we know divine rules and fortuna's threads of fate are still controlling teyvat
and still working as seen from fontaine flood did end up happening no matter what
primordial one cant be dead if he is the threads himself or the one controlling the threads
if phanes is gone that could simply be left to the ones whose task is to SUSTAIN
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia no he can't be gone 😡 let's stay optimistic
Nah, he ain't dead. He's chillin' till he regains his full power. Then, he shall return to glory and defeat the usurper king as the one and only PRIMORDIAL ONE, A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING, from beyond the stars.
i like ur spirit
Wait zhongli was alive 6000 years ago and he’s a god soo why would most gods come much after zhongli born
Sukuna about to get clapped somehow
yea but HOW
I mean....thecnically, venti and focalor come from 2 shades.....thecnically focalor comee from eugeria that comes from a shade that it's a part of the PO becs shades are part of him so like...idk
Anyway you cooked here, more or less....some of it are very bad burned but in rest it's pretty good
BURNN IT DOWWNNNN
Eh it's not completely unfeasible, especially after playing Cyno's story quest and seeing the Hermanubis fragments.
ig. his fragments didnt create beings tho
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia no, just noticing some similarities
Dawit come here I'm gonna fess up ... remember when Kazuha used a second vision? *from another element even* ... didn’t you feel that was wierd
aight time to fess up *Kazu killed him with the Fillet Blade and cooked himself a primordial fried iguana with that old man*
NOOOOOOOOOOO. IGUANA ?!@?!??!?!?!??!
@DawitsLookingforEmilia you are what you eat and he ate all em iguana dragon wanna be phonies back in the day
You're WRONG They can't kill off the Primordial One it has the slappy.... (probably..) It's plot armor.....
yes u must be right
if guizhong is dead than the primordial one is too
alright buster
Nah they ain't dead just sleepin probably
honk shoo?
Yes.
:(
my pookie is NOT dead, do not say such things ❌❌❌
yes! ur right !!
For me Genshin really like gnosticism... let's say, like God is different from Jesus. The Userper King is God and (maybe) Traveller is Jesus and Paimon is an apostle. Traveller witness almost everything in the world of Teyvat and the "Second Coming" is, if by any chance, the theory in which the Tsaritsa is reviving someone whose in gnosis, let's say it maybe Nibelung (I doubt it, but maybe Userper King and Dragon's vital powers) he will come and judge humanity.
What I'm saying is The Primordial One isn't necessarily dead but everywhere in Teyvat, cannot be seen but can be heard and felt (maybe somewhere in Irminsul we can find an answer?).
They'll just be revived in natlan.
think so marcus?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia if it's not signora it is him. He is thou and thou art I type shit.
No.
this is propaganda, sacrilege, not true!
YOU REALLY THINK SO FELLA?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yes sirr
You're wrong
music to my ears
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia (:
Nuh-uh
:D
He’s not dead i saw him at walmart today buying pickles
dawit, i think i should really appreciate your channel more. maybe you’re fat but you’ve been nothing but nice to me and with there with me through my darkest times ever since i gave you my discord.
i dont know that much fat people. i know 5 fat guys and you’re 4 of them. but you mean a lot
an why tf do u think im fat
a wholesome comment tho ily
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia i just wanted to say the joke 😊
look i get ur trying to sound like derpy and like funny i get that i really do but constantly saying the primordial one all the time and like how ur saying isnt doing much and maybe tone it down with that bc i seriously cant get past ur videos after u say that
not doing much for you*
and thats fine lol nothing wrong with that.
id just suggest u watch another lore content creator tho cause im not changing that. theres plenty of other fantastic ones in the scene
Nah phanes would win
what if skibidi toilet
did u have a stroke half way through typing this lmfao? that is not a word
brain disintegration
Imma say this…. 1st and 2nd are Phanes and his shades.. primordial and celestia.. I thinks Phanes loved humans BUT refused to let them evolve/grow/ascended.. like a overbearing parent who IMPOSED his idea of happiness on humanity… WHILE his shades actually disagreed and wanted life to evoke grow ascend etc.. so Celestia is the “2nd” simple cause they OVERTHREW the 1st .. the war was over a DIFFERENCE in opinion/direction of how to lead humans.. Phanes retreated with his FEW humans underground while celesta/shades/moonsister took over the surface.. and thus is why HUMANS and other beings can ASCEND.. Phanes BIRTHED humans yea but he was crap at “raising” them aka celestia sought allow humans to actually leave the nest and GROW.. Phanes wanted to prevent this aka kept them SHELTERED aka Phanes goal of nothing but happiness.. aka no pain no brown no struggle no overcoming.. which is what CELESTIA saw as CRUCIAL to LIFE.. we can’t be sheltered 💀