Super clean. I think it's pretty smart that you used the principle behind twiddling to add that extra click. I can't seem to get it down in regular fader setup, but I'll keep at it.
yo CBK... Thanks to you i got the 3 Flick Flare... using your method... and after i got that i was able to more easily get the normal 3 click flare... and now i can do a 4 click flare...but it is Not perfected yet... but i am Murdering this 3 click flare... I learned it about a year ago after watching this vid.... jus thought i'd come back and pay Homage and respects tot he Mighty CBK... respect from NyC ROCiSM
Exactly, you can make crabs/twiddles be like transforms or flares. When you scratch hamster it's easier to make them like flares, meaning the first finger is closing an open fader, as opposed to opening a closed fader.
ive used this technique since I first saw your video way back in the day. It really helped me achieve the speed I was looking for with three click techniques, I also scratch weak hand fader hamster and right hand on record. If I could go back in time I would learn to scratch standard fader with left hand but at this point Im hamster for life.... Hope your still spinning CBK, I learned a lot from you. I cant believe im like the only person who does twiddlebahns often. I would love to see some new vids. Peace!!
Exactly. When i switched to cutting left handed with my right hand controlling the record, i found that certian things were easier to do than they were on my opposite side. There will be certain things you can do on your left side that you cant really do on your right side, and vice versa. the only thing that sucks is i dont have as much elbow room scratching on my right side as i do on the left.
Nice method. I dont roll hamster style though...so to get quicker with my two click flare I had to improve wrist speed. Any insight to 3 clicks in 'regular' fader mode?
good stuff man... my scratching has lacked due to my efforts to become more all-around. I'll stay tuned for more tutorials. If you can please post some of simpler styles like the 1-click fare, twiddle, etc. It's difficult for me to describe/teach them to people I'm teaching.
@bobbydadogg The background track is WILLESDEN DODGERS - Jive Rhythm Trax and the scratch sound is from Change The Beat by Fab Five Freddy. Its right at the end of the track. Both early 80s tracks and reprinted, recompiled hundreds of times but the originals are best as they have that 'beep' and 'this stuff is really fresh' sound too. Not sure why Babu is getting all the credit here I guess he just made another compilation.
At one point in time, some DJs said the same thing about fader curves, crabs, skip proof records, ect. I've been doing this for a very long time (over 20 years) so I know what I'm talking about. I came up with this for people like me who scratch with their weak hand on the fader. Don't hate, innovate.
Nice video, but if I can suggest that you let viewers know you have the crossfader in hamster mode, and whether your starting open or closed. I get it but newbies might get confused. Peace
No it's a twiddle into a 2 click flare but the sound is the same as what you get from a 3 click flare. I do it like this instead of a crab because you can do this slower than you could do a straight crab.
@TheWaynelds I'm very old school. Back in the day faders sucked, period. There was no fader curver, no hamster, nothing. Plus they were super tight. Many djs back then scratched using the phone/line switch. I scratch right handed and the phono/line switch was set up so that pushing it to the left was on, pulling it to the right was off. That is why I scratch hamster to this day. It's probably also why q and many others scratch that way.
@CBK81 Ahh..that never occured to me. My first set up back in 1999 was a gemini mixer with a very tight cross fader as well, and they wore out super quick. I didnt get my first mixer that had fader slope and hamster switches until 2003, which was the Numark Pro SM3. It's got the optical fader on ball bearings and laser sensor. It workes really well and i still use it today. I only had to replace the fader once because it snapped off in 04. $130 for a new fader.
i always used my weak hand (left) on the record aand strong hand (right) on the fader. I switched it up over the summer and started to learn on the opposite side. Cuttin with my left hand was akward as hell, but i kept with it and got the coordination down and it really didnt take that long to get comfortable. The one thing i will NEVER do is scratch with hampster faders. It just doesnt seem right to me. But i guess to each his own. DJs, learn to cut the Xfader with your weak hand too.
@nevrkenesr Yea after the Joe Cooley cut is when I do the three click. You should hear it go into the 16th notes and not the triplets that a two click would produce.
if you've been doing it 20 years you shouldnt have a weak hand. im not trying to be rude but the problem with most dj's these days is they learn to crab before they can even do a simple chirp or stab, so when you come to doing 3 click flares ect, you will only be able to do it via twiddles or crabs. The best advise i give anybody who wants to scratch is crabing and twiddles should be the last thing on your list to learn
Nah man there is no right or wrong. I will have weaknesses the way that I scratch, and you'll have weaknesses the way that you scratch. In the end, it's all about style and flow. That's always more important than speed to me.
Well the thing is, yea I it can be done with a 3 finger crab. Well, I still think that 4 finger crab is redundant if you scratch hamster, but oh well. Anyways yea you can do it with a crab to beats that are about 90-110 bpm, but otherwise it's too fast. You can't slow your fingers down enough to really make it sound right. And yes, I do super fast 2 clicks with a twiddle. :)
You must have watched the video without audio. I clearly explain the difference between this and a twiddle. A twiddle is middle finger to index. This is middle finger to index, index. Like I said it's a modified twiddle. Thanks!
Well while my weak hand has indeed become faster, it's still not fast enough to do 3 click flares to anything but the slowest of beats. And of course crabs and twiddles were the last fader techs that I learned bro. I don't see why some people have a problem with me demonstrating this technique, it's not like it's really easy to do or anything. It sounds just like a 3 click, so why not do it if you can't do the fader fast enough normally.
GFJ915 very true.....it's crazy how if u do a two click with one finger vs two fingers it sounds much different. I think because when using one finger the notes can't fall closer together. they are more evenly spaced giving it that more rapid robotic sound. This fact has drove me nuts for the last fifteen years since I started djing. Also flares never sound quite as good when done hamster. it's best done when the fader is standard and the movement is closing the fader with the thumb and then tapping open twice. This has also drove me nuts because no matter how clean you are, doing flares with two fingers in hamster will never sound as good as the correct way. Most tutorials do not talk about this.....
@junglistni Good deal man. I've been working on my left handed cutz for a while, no twiddles or crabs, just wrist and fingertips. I'm still much better right handed tho.
@@KarateWrestler205 I scratch hamster because back in the day faders sucked and we used the phono/line switch as a fader. It was set up where left was sound on and right was sound off. Hamster
sorry but it 's not 3 click flare it's twiddle man ... twiddle is easier & sound différent than normal 3 click orbit flare. good teknik anyway but i really prefer normal 3 click :p sounds better (to me)
And therefore, it's not a 3 click flare. No offence man, but the fact that you are doing it the "easy way" makes a mockery of those DJs who learnt to do it the original and proper way.
i thank the lord that there are guys like you who helps the weak and defend the helpless...=)
Super clean. I think it's pretty smart that you used the principle behind twiddling to add that extra click. I can't seem to get it down in regular fader setup, but I'll keep at it.
yo CBK...
Thanks to you i got the 3 Flick Flare... using your method... and after i got that i was able to more easily get the normal 3 click flare... and now i can do a 4 click flare...but it is Not perfected yet...
but i am Murdering this 3 click flare... I learned it about a year ago after watching this vid....
jus thought i'd come back and pay Homage and respects tot he Mighty CBK...
respect from NyC
ROCiSM
Exactly, you can make crabs/twiddles be like transforms or flares. When you scratch hamster it's easier to make them like flares, meaning the first finger is closing an open fader, as opposed to opening a closed fader.
Nice teqnik! All cutz are clear as hell! Nice baby skratches...I need to practice mines!
ive used this technique since I first saw your video way back in the day. It really helped me achieve the speed I was looking for with three click techniques, I also scratch weak hand fader hamster and right hand on record. If I could go back in time I would learn to scratch standard fader with left hand but at this point Im hamster for life.... Hope your still spinning CBK, I learned a lot from you. I cant believe im like the only person who does twiddlebahns often. I would love to see some new vids. Peace!!
Glad to help. I do still cut. I have a few recent vids up.
Exactly. When i switched to cutting left handed with my right hand controlling the record, i found that certian things were easier to do than they were on my opposite side. There will be certain things you can do on your left side that you cant really do on your right side, and vice versa. the only thing that sucks is i dont have as much elbow room scratching on my right side as i do on the left.
Right On!! Thats what Im talkin bout STYLE & FLOW!! Nice Vids.
Your Joe Cooley scratch is on point.
Nice method. I dont roll hamster style though...so to get quicker with my two click flare I had to improve wrist speed. Any insight to 3 clicks in 'regular' fader mode?
Awesome I. Like your three click flare because is different and using two fingers , so my scratch can be more creative
Thanks
good stuff man... my scratching has lacked due to my efforts to become more all-around. I'll stay tuned for more tutorials. If you can please post some of simpler styles like the 1-click fare, twiddle, etc. It's difficult for me to describe/teach them to people I'm teaching.
I need to learn how to do flares.
Are you right handed? or left handed?
@bobbydadogg The background track is WILLESDEN DODGERS - Jive Rhythm Trax and the scratch sound is from Change The Beat by Fab Five Freddy. Its right at the end of the track. Both early 80s tracks and reprinted, recompiled hundreds of times but the originals are best as they have that 'beep' and 'this stuff is really fresh' sound too. Not sure why Babu is getting all the credit here I guess he just made another compilation.
At one point in time, some DJs said the same thing about fader curves, crabs, skip proof records, ect. I've been doing this for a very long time (over 20 years) so I know what I'm talking about. I came up with this for people like me who scratch with their weak hand on the fader. Don't hate, innovate.
Nice video, but if I can suggest that you let viewers know you have the crossfader in hamster mode, and whether your starting open or closed. I get it but newbies might get confused.
Peace
is that a stones throw record?!
the record label doom,madlb, aka quasimoto and atmosphere are on?
I do the Joe cooley scratch to get warmed up and then do the middle, index, index 3 click.
yes, but they have also released some battle records like the "Super Duck Breaks"
dont listen to those bozos@!! this is a sick version of the 3 click flare!
and what if i do 2 click flare with my 2 fingers, i am used to click(transform) with my middle finger, how sould i do 3 click flare?
No it's a twiddle into a 2 click flare but the sound is the same as what you get from a 3 click flare. I do it like this instead of a crab because you can do this slower than you could do a straight crab.
1:25 - 1:29 what's that called?
also the triplet thing at 1:30 - 1:32 are nice!
@TheWaynelds I'm very old school. Back in the day faders sucked, period. There was no fader curver, no hamster, nothing. Plus they were super tight. Many djs back then scratched using the phone/line switch. I scratch right handed and the phono/line switch was set up so that pushing it to the left was on, pulling it to the right was off. That is why I scratch hamster to this day. It's probably also why q and many others scratch that way.
@CBK81 Ahh..that never occured to me. My first set up back in 1999 was a gemini mixer with a very tight cross fader as well, and they wore out super quick. I didnt get my first mixer that had fader slope and hamster switches until 2003, which was the Numark Pro SM3. It's got the optical fader on ball bearings and laser sensor. It workes really well and i still use it today. I only had to replace the fader once because it snapped off in 04. $130 for a new fader.
i always used my weak hand (left) on the record aand strong hand (right) on the fader. I switched it up over the summer and started to learn on the opposite side. Cuttin with my left hand was akward as hell, but i kept with it and got the coordination down and it really didnt take that long to get comfortable. The one thing i will NEVER do is scratch with hampster faders. It just doesnt seem right to me. But i guess to each his own. DJs, learn to cut the Xfader with your weak hand too.
@nevrkenesr Yea after the Joe Cooley cut is when I do the three click. You should hear it go into the 16th notes and not the triplets that a two click would produce.
It's called Rhythm Traxx. It was on Tommy Boy records I think. I've seen it on youtube before.
which stones throw vinyl is that???
if you've been doing it 20 years you shouldnt have a weak hand. im not trying to be rude but the problem with most dj's these days is they learn to crab before they can even do a simple chirp or stab, so when you come to doing 3 click flares ect, you will only be able to do it via twiddles or crabs. The best advise i give anybody who wants to scratch is crabing and twiddles should be the last thing on your list to learn
k, my strong hand is right, my more tactile hand is left. ( im left handed). Wich should on the platter or fader
Nah man there is no right or wrong. I will have weaknesses the way that I scratch, and you'll have weaknesses the way that you scratch. In the end, it's all about style and flow. That's always more important than speed to me.
Well the thing is, yea I it can be done with a 3 finger crab. Well, I still think that 4 finger crab is redundant if you scratch hamster, but oh well. Anyways yea you can do it with a crab to beats that are about 90-110 bpm, but otherwise it's too fast. You can't slow your fingers down enough to really make it sound right. And yes, I do super fast 2 clicks with a twiddle. :)
Will u break it down in slow-mo yo nice tut..jus hard to c it exactly how u doin it
Great vid bro, thanks for posting this
You must have watched the video without audio. I clearly explain the difference between this and a twiddle. A twiddle is middle finger to index. This is middle finger to index, index. Like I said it's a modified twiddle.
Thanks!
Do you have your fader on reverse
Do you have any freestyle vids man your sick
I AINT GONNA HATE...EVEN THO DIS DUDE IS COUNTRY WIT A CHESSY NAME..HE CAN SCRATCH! DOPE!
@CBK81 Hataz gona hate. I don't agree with some of your methods, but you have helped me with some of my techniques. Thanks for the inspiration.
@GFJ915 This is a delayed 3 click, that's why it sounds a bit different.
What about if you do not hamster scratch style?
Do it up man but the fingers are connected through the wrist. Try to point out imaginary lines where most of the muscles/tendons are concentrated on.
Well while my weak hand has indeed become faster, it's still not fast enough to do 3 click flares to anything but the slowest of beats. And of course crabs and twiddles were the last fader techs that I learned bro. I don't see why some people have a problem with me demonstrating this technique, it's not like it's really easy to do or anything. It sounds just like a 3 click, so why not do it if you can't do the fader fast enough normally.
I been trying to do this for years and still can't get it right.
You get a much different cadence when you do a true three click flare
GFJ915 very true.....it's crazy how if u do a two click with one finger vs two fingers it sounds much different. I think because when using one finger the notes can't fall closer together. they are more evenly spaced giving it that more rapid robotic sound. This fact has drove me nuts for the last fifteen years since I started djing. Also flares never sound quite as good when done hamster. it's best done when the fader is standard and the movement is closing the fader with the thumb and then tapping open twice. This has also drove me nuts because no matter how clean you are, doing flares with two fingers in hamster will never sound as good as the correct way. Most tutorials do not talk about this.....
GOD I LOVE YOU MAN!
Whats the combo?
Thanks man. Subbed :)
coo thx for the replyin
and nice vids man you got skilzz!
that looks harder....if you can do a 2 click, whats the big deal on adding one more click to it?
GOOD WORK!!!!
willesden dodgers -- jive rhythm trax
@MirkoMachine No it's actually a delayed 3 click flare
@Billy18bm
sounds like the 3click flare to me. can you count? lol
Great vid!
Dude.. I can only use my wrist.. darnnit. I play guitar and do other things, but this i cannto master.
@junglistni Good deal man. I've been working on my left handed cutz for a while, no twiddles or crabs, just wrist and fingertips. I'm still much better right handed tho.
Righty Tighty!
Of course this would be in hamster
Shouldn't matter, but I do find twiddles easier in hamster
@@BobbyBriscoeBeats it seems everything is easier in hamster except beat juggling
@@BobbyBriscoeBeats i only dont like hamster cuz im broad chested and i feel like i have t rex arms when i do it
@@KarateWrestler205 I scratch hamster because back in the day faders sucked and we used the phono/line switch as a fader. It was set up where left was sound on and right was sound off. Hamster
man u r very good...but i dont agree is a 3 click flare...
it s like a crab combined with 1 or 2 click flare...
bytheway respect!
@CBK81 Thats what im saying,haha! Nice work CBK81
@bobbydadogg It's super duck breaks by dj babu
yeahh..waitin for the Prizm...
That's CBK to you sir!
That does sound just like the 3 click flare. Its just another way to do it. TITE~!!!
INspiration BRother good Shitt...
So it's kinda like a heel toe thing like drumming.... hmmm
sorry but it 's not 3 click flare it's twiddle man ... twiddle is easier & sound différent than normal 3 click orbit flare. good teknik anyway but i really prefer normal 3 click :p sounds better (to me)
damn -- this shit's hard.
sounds to me like a swing flare
btw, youre so dope. im subbin!
cbk in da house!
fuckin dope man!!!
sounds similar to audiobahn scratch
Dope Shit brah!!
It shouldn't make a difference bro.
so how many people hav you killed
stones throw!
cool blooded killer? tool...
@1nnovate That's wassap
And therefore, it's not a 3 click flare. No offence man, but the fact that you are doing it the "easy way" makes a mockery of those DJs who learnt to do it the original and proper way.
ok sorry man lol actually i just watch the demo =p u'r right lol it's my fault peace
THIS MOVE IS NOT EASY !!!!
@Beatz4liffe Haha
Werd!
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That is all
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dikiy stil you do better and show us then