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  • Опубликовано: 22 апр 2023
  • During a game between the Detroit Tigers and Baltimore Orioles, a couple pitches were called for strikes that were off the plate. Orioles 3rd baseman Ramón Urías strikes out and tossed his helmet and elbow pad. The home plate umpire took exception and threw the infielder out of the game.
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Комментарии • 515

  • @markevans9188
    @markevans9188 Год назад +278

    Love that line. "the fans didn't pay to see you umpire"

    • @kylewhatever
      @kylewhatever Год назад +7

      tell that to my grandma who showed up to a 13U Travel Tournament and paid $20 just to watch me umpire

    • @markevans9188
      @markevans9188 Год назад +7

      @@kylewhatever well bless her heart and i'm glad she is your big fan, but the other people there didn't pay to see you. and i'm sure you didn't act like this horrible ump

    • @bige300
      @bige300 Год назад +2

      @@markevans9188 Then again...maybe he did?

    • @tygrahof9268
      @tygrahof9268 Год назад +4

      They are becoming the detriment of the game.

    • @mikekinsella2822
      @mikekinsella2822 Год назад +2

      Maybe his parents were in the stands lol

  • @logancheek2274
    @logancheek2274 Год назад +142

    Not only Orioles announcer, but legendary pitcher Jim Palmer!!

  • @rustytrombone8011
    @rustytrombone8011 Год назад +50

    That isn’t just an announcer. That’s hall of famer Jim Palmer, one of the best right handed pitchers that ever lived.

    • @adamwatkins1150
      @adamwatkins1150 Год назад +4

      He was good at pitching. That's it.

    • @ElliFischer
      @ElliFischer Год назад +2

      Palmer was a great pitcher, no doubt. But no pitcher in MLB history benefitted as much from an elite defense playing behind him, including Brooks Robinson and Mark Belanger for the vast majority of his career.

    • @garyhart2689
      @garyhart2689 Год назад +1

      Excellent pitcher, not an expert on umpiring.

    • @Ben-oi6kz
      @Ben-oi6kz Год назад +1

      @@garyhart2689 lmao he kinda nailed this

    • @keith3915
      @keith3915 Год назад

      ​@@adamwatkins11502.68 era over nearly 4,000 innings pitched, 3 time Cy Young winner

  • @JSC-1971
    @JSC-1971 Год назад +7

    That's Jim Palmer!
    Baseball Hall of Fame,
    World Series Champion,
    3 Time Cy Young Awards.
    Greatest Pitcher In Orioles History.

  • @myghkl
    @myghkl Год назад +302

    Tip of the hat to the announcers. I hope to see more calm but unrestrained criticism from the booth of petty, egotistical behavior by the umps.

    • @MattW30356
      @MattW30356 Год назад +7

      Phillies radio guys especially Anderson being a former pitcher, will really get on Umps who make terrible calls.

    • @spicy5766
      @spicy5766 Год назад +1

      @@MattW30356 that’s great

    • @fifiwoof1969
      @fifiwoof1969 Год назад +5

      So we're giving the announcers a pass for 0:38? I never saw the umpire call that a strike but you know what - announcers said he called it a strike, lol.

    • @joebarr725
      @joebarr725 Год назад

      I hope to see the non-renewal of the umpires' contract when their CBA expires.

    • @billyfraiser6298
      @billyfraiser6298 Год назад +7

      Nope. I hate, loathe, when announcers think they know what they're talking about. The umpire was walking away, and the batter TURNED TO UMPIRE and said something, then he got ejected. The announcers don't know what the batter said....so the announcers have no clue what they're talking about. I hate when announcers do that.

  • @andrewellington9503
    @andrewellington9503 Год назад +56

    'They didn't come to see you' is a sentiment that too many umps need to be reminded of.

    • @blacktimhoward4322
      @blacktimhoward4322 Год назад +1

      Except it has nothing to do with the right call, so it's actually irrelevant

    • @andrewellington9503
      @andrewellington9503 Год назад

      It has to due with the ump's ego which led him to throw out a player over nothing, which is exactly what the announcer is referring to when he said he embarrassed his profession, so it literally could not be more relevant to the video? Yes, the ump made bad calls but the comment was about umps who toss players over the slightest things that they perceive as 'showing them up'.

  • @minsong8997
    @minsong8997 Год назад +81

    He is in fact saying, "I can't be wrong. How dare you disagree with my call!" A classic case of power tripping..

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug Год назад +3

      It wasn't even your classic show up the umpire behavior.

    • @Em022
      @Em022 Год назад +1

      This is why I say umps are soft

    • @blacktimhoward4322
      @blacktimhoward4322 Год назад +1

      You mean the hitter? Yes, this hitter was power tripping. Correct 😂

  • @vincegannonjr1232
    @vincegannonjr1232 Год назад +76

    title should have read "hall of fame pitcher calls ump......"

    • @rnickoles
      @rnickoles Год назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing.

    • @blacktimhoward4322
      @blacktimhoward4322 Год назад +1

      Title should have read "Announcer does not understand the rules of ejection"

  • @ChillOut1716
    @ChillOut1716 Год назад +71

    These umpires should be fined for this type of behavior. There needs to be some type of accountability.

    • @kylemarshall1651
      @kylemarshall1651 Год назад +1

      Doubtful, with how much power their union has. Accountability isn’t something they have to maintain, unfortunately.

    • @outworkyouschiffert2685
      @outworkyouschiffert2685 Год назад

      The best the mlb can do is nothing lol.

    • @outworkyouschiffert2685
      @outworkyouschiffert2685 Год назад

      I thought the nfl was bad. Holy caw and were 25 games into the season. Scherzer gets thrown out for using too much rosin. This guy gets thrown out for being disgusted cuz the ump doesn't know the strike zone and nothing happens to the umps. He will prob ump a game in the world series.

    • @Noticerofthings
      @Noticerofthings Год назад

      The calls were close and I think he had the right calls. You try to ump

    • @blacktimhoward4322
      @blacktimhoward4322 Год назад

      Umps did their jobs, so no. If you throw your hat, it's an auto-eject

  • @johnwilcox5605
    @johnwilcox5605 Год назад +6

    Not just any announcer. That was Hall of Famer Jim Palmer.

  • @Whatwilloweats
    @Whatwilloweats Год назад +4

    So the announcers got it wrong. The first pitch they showed was called a ball 1. Not called a strike. Yes the last pitch was a called strike 3. Player got thrown out after being warned not to throw his equipment. It you see. The umpire gives him a warning after the bat and helmet

    • @cizzymac
      @cizzymac Год назад

      Tossing your equipment quite lightly toward your own dugout happens hundreds if not thousands of times every season, and you never see a guy get thrown out for it unless the ump is a punk like this.

  • @funsmasher7018
    @funsmasher7018 Год назад +39

    Jim Palmer, one of the greatest living HOFers(he'll tell ya himself) calls em as he sees em.

    • @donh6416
      @donh6416 Год назад

      Don't forget that Palmer loved those calls as a pitcher. Palmer is just being a homie now that he's in the booth. And batters are ignoring the "foul it off if it's close" technique.

    • @johndavies5582
      @johndavies5582 Год назад +1

      ​@Don H argument is not about the call as calls get blown it's the human element but it's his reaction to ramons reaction that is the problem

    • @kennethanderson1912
      @kennethanderson1912 Год назад

      "The Great Jim Palmer" ...check his stats. Check out how many 9 innings complete games he threw.

    • @mloftus8618
      @mloftus8618 Год назад +2

      @@kennethanderson1912 - I’m sorry…are you trying to say Jim Palmer was NOT a great pitcher?😂

    • @joebarr725
      @joebarr725 Год назад +2

      @@kennethanderson1912 Palmer's stats: 211 Complete Games in 521 lifetime starts (40.5%). In seven seasons, he completed at least half his starts.
      To compare with some of his contemporaries:
      Catfish Hunter 181 out of 476 (38.0%)
      Tom Seaver 231 out of 647 (35.7%)
      Steve Carlton 254 out of 709 (35.8%)
      Bob Gibson 255 out of 482 (52,9%)
      Ferguson Jenkins 267 out of 594 (44.9%)
      Gaylord Perry 303 out of 690 (43,9%)

  • @marcofeature
    @marcofeature Год назад +74

    That's why the umpire union doesn't want electronic strike zone as it will show how incompetent some umpires are.

    • @hhattonaom9729
      @hhattonaom9729 Год назад +7

      *angel hernandez has entered the chat*

    • @bobsyoruncle4583
      @bobsyoruncle4583 Год назад +11

      the visual strike box already shows how incompetent they are - the automated strike zone is the fix.

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug Год назад

      ​@@hhattonaom9729 lol😅

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug Год назад +1

      ​@Bob Syoruncle It's nice to get those pitches as a pitcher, though sometimes. A few misses with makeup calls is acceptable.

    • @DueySR
      @DueySR Год назад +1

      Umpire scorecard already shows that.

  • @SamuelPearlman
    @SamuelPearlman Год назад +6

    As a referee one of the most important things I've learned is when NOT to hear something. Don't make it about yourself, Mr. Umpire.

  • @NoJokes11B
    @NoJokes11B Год назад +68

    We don’t need umps to call balls and strikes anymore. We have the technology. Let’s use it.

    • @Numbnuts007
      @Numbnuts007 Год назад +2

      Yeah, and then a part of the video board specifically has a display of where the pitches are, I mean hell we have the ability to do that right now cuz MLB game day does it, they just need to make the technology work faster

    • @Chyeahokay
      @Chyeahokay Год назад +2

      Exactly. Especially when the umps have such small egos as well

    • @Tylerrrrrb
      @Tylerrrrrb Год назад +2

      @@Numbnuts007 the technology can work faster than you can think bud

    • @avacadohorse5016
      @avacadohorse5016 Год назад

      agree

    • @freecryptos
      @freecryptos Год назад +1

      @@Chyeahokay It's not small egos, it's called a bribe or incentives to side with some team/total for the sake of a bet.

  • @jonahmatz5438
    @jonahmatz5438 Год назад +6

    Not just any announcer.. that’s Jim Palmer.

  • @craign8464
    @craign8464 Год назад +3

    The announcers are bush league as well. That first overhead shot was a ball, not a called strike as they indicated. Do better.

  • @jonlanier_
    @jonlanier_ Год назад +18

    MLB needs to do something so they can punish the umpires. It's getting really bad! The best umpire is the one you didn't even know was there. Did his job correctly and moved on.

    • @walleyperch
      @walleyperch Год назад

      Agree 100%. This ump needs to be ejected completely from baseball…

    • @OldBenKenobi2318
      @OldBenKenobi2318 Год назад +3

      While I agree there are way too many umpires with big egos, people are really overreacting at EVERY missed call.

    • @huntermorris7421
      @huntermorris7421 Год назад +1

      Its not the missed call. Its the tendency eject anyone who disagrees with you. This ejection was ridiculous

    • @runvnc208
      @runvnc208 Год назад +2

      They should have had the robo umps in MLB years ago. Its incredibly stupid that everyone else can see the strike zone but they can't.

    • @jonbiedermann79
      @jonbiedermann79 Год назад

      @@huntermorris7421 There's an unwritten baseball code. You simply don't argue balls and strikes where- as a player- you demonstrate to an ump where you think the ball was. You disagree with a call? That's fine. Listen to the players and they will say something like, "That wasn't there", or they will ask, "Where was that blue?". Say something like "That was a $%@& foot outside" or worse, draw a line in the dirt, it's an automatic ejection. As an umpire, I have no problem with coaches and players saying either "Not your pitch!" or saying "Right around there!", but tell me that the ball is a foot outside when it's literally over the corner of the plate and you are gone.

  • @austinbobstin4796
    @austinbobstin4796 Год назад

    As an Orioles fan before even watching the video I knew they were talking about old Jim I can't tell you enough about how great it is to have announcers that are actually on the side of the team GO Os!!!!!!

  • @zippsy
    @zippsy Год назад +6

    That announcer was Jim Palmer and he was 100% correct.

    • @blacktimhoward4322
      @blacktimhoward4322 Год назад

      It was Jim Palmer, and he's completely wrong. Throw helmet = auto eject, the umpire had nothing to do with it

    • @zippsy
      @zippsy Год назад +1

      @@blacktimhoward4322 -have you ever seen a batter strike out for the third out bend over to gently place their gear on the ground or wait for the batboy to come over and hand it to him?

  • @billtate6962
    @billtate6962 Год назад +3

    These are the EXACT umpires that will be whining the loudest when they get replaced behind the plate with the automated strike zone system.

    • @walleyperch
      @walleyperch Год назад

      Can’t happen soon enough. Nothing is worse than a blind ump…

  • @Rayoscope
    @Rayoscope Год назад +4

    Technically, tossing equipment (while also compounding the infraction by kvetching a called strike three) is grounds for immediate ejection.

    • @Playboyy1985
      @Playboyy1985 Год назад

      If you’re too sensitive yes

    • @joebarr725
      @joebarr725 Год назад +1

      Technically, I'm glad you are not a major league umpire.

  • @Nick--69
    @Nick--69 Год назад +3

    That Orioles announcer is hall of fame pitcher Jim Palmer

  • @Navyweaver98
    @Navyweaver98 Год назад +5

    Has no one else noticed that in the breakdown of the two pitches, the first pitch (showed from overhead) that the announcer referred to as “strike 2” was actually a ball in the first, and was called a ball. The actual called strike 2 was a pitch earlier (but not shown from overhead), and the computer showed it as a strike.
    The called strike 3 was a really close strike and the computer system on another site ruled it within the margin of error.

    • @darylerwin
      @darylerwin Год назад +1

      fyi .. you dont need the other site .. it shows it here too .. the open circle is a ball the solid circle is a strike (within margin of error etc etc).

    • @billredmond2038
      @billredmond2038 Год назад

      Are you saying that the Orioles producer/director pulled up the wrong replay IN THE MOMENT? This was not patched together the next day.

    • @Navyweaver98
      @Navyweaver98 Год назад

      @@billredmond2038 Yes. Now I don’t say that to criticize those guys either. But we need to be fair to the umpire. There was one pitch barely outside (strike 3). Strike 2 was a legit strike. The announcers weren’t fair in their analysis of the strike calls using the wrong footage.
      Now what we don’t know is what was said to cause the umpire to use the quick hook. Without the benefit of sound, it seemed a bit premature, but more goes on than most of us are privy to.

  • @johndavies5582
    @johndavies5582 Год назад +3

    That's just not an announcer that's hall of farmer 3 time Cy young winner Jim Palmer calling that dude a Busch leauger.....if ur a baseball man their is no further disrespectful thing to say....and I 100 percent agree with Jim

  • @Bcharns
    @Bcharns Год назад +27

    It’s an absolute embarrassment to the league that these power tripping umps aren’t held accountable for their poor performance.

    • @kenwell3498
      @kenwell3498 Год назад

      diplomatic immunity. must be nice

    • @jonlanier_
      @jonlanier_ Год назад

      @@KEEPLOOKIN I could do better! But I have better talents (that are more difficult to do than ump a game) to do. Than waste my time in this field of endeavor.

    • @OldBenKenobi2318
      @OldBenKenobi2318 Год назад +2

      @@jonlanier_ I highly doubt you could do better. You look at your electronic strike zone on tv and act like you are a professional ball/strike caller.

    • @EvolutionIX219
      @EvolutionIX219 Год назад

      ​@Old Ben Kenobi I don't need to be a master chef to know when food tastes like shit. Quit being an idiot.

  • @oldsaltsquire
    @oldsaltsquire Год назад +1

    The pitch they showed was actually called a ball by the umpire and the computerized ump. The pitches that were called strikes by the umpire were also called strikes by the computerized umpire. Local announcer bias? Also the ump warned him after he threw the helmut; the rules require an ejection when player throws equipment after being warned.

    • @braden5420
      @braden5420 Год назад

      Jim Palmer as an announcer will admit whether someone is a ball or strike, whether or not the batter agrees or not. He is pretty fair on his judgements. The umpire should not have thrown him out anyway. Umpires need to read the room and understand he is going to be frustrated when two balls were called strikes and struck out. He wasn't losing his temper or going to ump's face either. I have seen people get thrown out slower when getting into the ump's face and screaming at them than Urius getting thrown out. Not a good look for this umpire.

  • @patt6961
    @patt6961 Год назад +7

    The umpire actually ejected him for throwing equipment. Notice the point and warning when the batter threw his bat and helmet at 0:21. Then the batter threw his elbow guard that's why he got tossed at 0:23.

    • @donnyflippo2781
      @donnyflippo2781 Год назад

      He warned the batter toward his back. Dumb unpiring.

  • @fifiwoof1969
    @fifiwoof1969 Год назад +4

    0:38 "there's strike 2" - must be that new uncalled strike I've heard so much about OR it was a ball and called a ball, lol.
    Just a little ironic how they say that and call the umpire an embarrassment to his profession. Dude you literally said that umpires called that a strike when your vision shows us he didn't!

    • @TorchDeeJ
      @TorchDeeJ Год назад

      youre dumb. they thought they were showing the replay of strike 2 ajd strike 3. go back to the other view that shows the pitches from the outside and clearly they were not balls.

    • @teamensa
      @teamensa Год назад +1

      Correct. The broadcast team showed an outside pitch that was correctly called a ball by the umpire. Then they slam the umpire even though they showed the wrong pitch.

  • @hhattonaom9729
    @hhattonaom9729 Год назад +4

    One step closer to robot umps.

  • @Boxscot49
    @Boxscot49 Год назад +16

    Those two strike calls werent even close. I dont understand how someone whose entire job is to be able to just tell balls and strikes sucks so damn bad at it

    • @mtoboggan2364
      @mtoboggan2364 Год назад +1

      They were an inch off the plate. If you had watched more than 1 ab of the series you would have seen that called a strike on every batter, Os included, the entire series.

    • @Tdrums8
      @Tdrums8 Год назад +2

      i agree bro .Terrible .And what is really unfair is the player is correct and the ump is wrong and the player is ejected ..lol Not fair .

    • @Tdrums8
      @Tdrums8 Год назад +4

      @@mtoboggan2364 call was terrible maybe you need an eye exam

    • @turbotravis2323
      @turbotravis2323 Год назад +3

      @@mtoboggan2364 Do you know what an inch is

    • @mikefoor5162
      @mikefoor5162 Год назад +4

      Two best jobs in the world; home plate umpire and weatherman. Never get fired for being wrong 60% of the time. Try that being an air traffic controller!!

  • @bluetx54
    @bluetx54 Год назад +1

    First of all, if anyone believes the the rectangle that is superimposed on the TV screen is the real strike zone they are mistaken. Home plate is 17 inches wide. The rule book at every level says a strike is when any part of the ball touches that plate or goes "through" the plate and is from the bottom of the knee (wherever the hell that can be precisely determined under a uniform pant) to the a midpoint between the shoulders and the top of the uniform pants when a batter takes a normal stance......that rectangle never ever changes on a tv broadcast. Plus the rectangle is always slightly offset because the tv camera is offset to the pitcher. There are 18 different strike zones to start the game and that expands as players are substituted. In most games that means the HP umpire is responsible for at least 21 to 24 different strike zones. The rectangle is simply wrong on every batter because it is never adjusted. Even if players are the same height their stances are usually different. Second, the ejection was not for arguing balls and strikes it was for the way Urias "discarded" his batting equipment. BY RULE, there is no leeway here and MLB takes the adjudication of all rules big and small VERY seriously. Finally, if you think an electronic strike zone is going to make things better, you should read the research on the electric strike zone currently being used in the minor leagues......the radar that is the basis for the electronic zone can ONLY measure the middle of the ball.....and if you don't understand what that means you don't understand the strike zone as it has been called for more than a century......it narrows the zone by as much as 3 inches....arguments in baseball are part of the game...

  • @thurm64
    @thurm64 Год назад +3

    Throwing equipment is the reason for ejection here - you can see the ump point when he throws off the first piece to warn him, then runs him after it happens again. Still not great, but that at least explains it a bit

    • @cloudwatcher724
      @cloudwatcher724 Год назад

      the equipment wasn't "thrown". it was dropped. very common for third out strike-out batter to leave his equipment at the plate, batboy/girl comes and gets it, and someone brings his glove and cap. total overreaction by the plate ump. and i'm sure the psychology crowd would be able to explain how his ejection of the batter is a self-revelation that he knows he either missed those two calls or called them wrong intentionally. we rednecks would simply say he's covering his ass..... (three years in the eighth grade; how can i be wrong...?😏😏

  • @ILikeDonuts666
    @ILikeDonuts666 Год назад

    The ump reminds me of the first boss you meet in a video game, where you show up live 5 levels lower than recommend and with no required equipment but still win. He looks and acts like it lol

  • @christopherneyfeldt4587
    @christopherneyfeldt4587 Год назад +9

    Obviously this umpire went to the Joe West and Angel Hernandez school of umpiring.

    • @cowens210
      @cowens210 Год назад +1

      lets not forget c.b. bucknor

  • @adamwatkins1150
    @adamwatkins1150 Год назад +5

    The announcers are wrong. The pitch was not that far off the plate. There is no context as to whether the umpire was giving both teams that corner all game. The video clearly shows the batter deliberately throw his bat, then deliberately throw his helmet, both of which by themselves are an ejection in high school, but are warnable in the majors, and the umpire promptly and clearly gave the batter the warning per league directives. The batter then continued to throw his drama queen hissy fit by throwing even more stuff after the warning, at which point he disqualified himself from the game, as the refs in the NFL like to say. Sit down, son.

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug Год назад

      I totally disagree with you. Played pro ball and those were both outside. The player did not show up the ump in my opinion. He was just frustrated.

    • @rclarkcarpenter
      @rclarkcarpenter Год назад

      You need you your eyes AND your brain checked

    • @adamwatkins1150
      @adamwatkins1150 Год назад

      @@TheFrenchPug If you were umpiring, you'd let them throw their shirt and their pants and their jock strap before you handle your business. Ridiculous.

  • @concernedcitizen2031
    @concernedcitizen2031 Год назад +1

    Pat Hoberg needs to teach how to properly set behind the plate. You don't center yourself on the plate you have to be proactive and follow the catcher so you can get he best view of the pitch. When you are setup on the right hand site behind the catcher and the catcher slides to the left you will never get a good view of a pitch.

  • @trvrsln
    @trvrsln Год назад

    Forget interviewing players and coaches on strategy. The media needs to start interviewing umpires and calling them out on their blown calls and egos.

  • @ryanceason4658
    @ryanceason4658 Год назад +2

    I love how the show "strike two". That pitch was ball one. Close Call Sports has the figures for location of the pitch. The real strike two was well within the zone. Strike three was outside the zone but within the buffer margin of error accepted by MLB. So according to MLB both strike calls were correct

  • @charlesdaugherty321
    @charlesdaugherty321 Год назад +2

    Change umpire pay based on accuracy and consistency ratings.
    Some umps owe the league millions.

  • @MH-Tesla
    @MH-Tesla Год назад +1

    0:41. "there the first strike." But umpire called it a ball. Announcer making an embarrassment of his profession.😅

    • @mattiej2311
      @mattiej2311 Год назад

      No, he called a strike. Hence his arm going out.

    • @MH-Tesla
      @MH-Tesla Год назад

      ​@@mattiej2311 He went into his ball bag to get another ball. That first pitch they show from the top down. He did not call that a strike. That is abundantly obvious.

    • @mattiej2311
      @mattiej2311 Год назад

      @@MH-Tesla oh gotcha. Your time was off.

  • @queensgaelsmenshockey
    @queensgaelsmenshockey Год назад +2

    Vic Carapazza up to his old tricks again. Loves being the star

  • @TaterChip91
    @TaterChip91 Год назад

    If the world needs anything right now, it's a video of broadcasters calling out umpires bullshit.

  • @2013jpm
    @2013jpm Год назад

    That's Jim Palmer, hall of famer, talking. And he's 100% correct.

  • @VitalityMassage
    @VitalityMassage Год назад +1

    The announcers NEED to criticize the umps more often when warranted. Most stay way too quiet and nice.

  • @element720
    @element720 Год назад +2

    The calls were both close. Certainly not egregious. Could easily argue the batter should have been more protective with two strikes. I’ll give this to umps. Batter kind of did show him up

    • @ronachten2902
      @ronachten2902 Год назад +1

      I agree and I'm an O's fan. Especially with two strikes, you have to be less selective up there and hack away.

  • @volodymyrzablotsky5372
    @volodymyrzablotsky5372 Год назад

    The worst part is that they stopped allowing close replays to be shown on the stadium jumbo trons. Been told by stadium employees that this is due to the umpire unions protesting! What’s the point of having these oversized screens if you can’t show replays!

  • @robertbyington7715
    @robertbyington7715 Год назад +3

    It’s bad enough he missed both those pitches by SO much but then he tosses a guy for obviously being upset and rightly so. There needs to be some action by MLB to correct this situation immediately. If the situation had been reversed the umpires would have been screening for this player to be suspended

    • @blacktimhoward4322
      @blacktimhoward4322 Год назад

      You made three mistakes in a rather short comment. Please improve

    • @robertbyington7715
      @robertbyington7715 Год назад +1

      @@blacktimhoward4322
      Maybe you want to state specifically what the mistakes were instead of just throwing shade!!!!

  • @xstugee
    @xstugee Год назад +4

    IT IS ABOUT TIME THESE UMPIRES GOT CALLED OUT FOR THE DISGRACEFUL WAY THEY RUN GAMES. THANKS A MILLION TO THIS GUTSY AND RIGHT-ON ANNOUNCER FOR SUMMING
    UP WHAT SO VERY MANY OF US FANS THINK. THEY ARE CALLING A GAME...THEY ARE NOT FRONT AND CENTER AND THEY ARE NOT THE GAME!!!!!

  • @xuimod
    @xuimod Год назад +5

    I would go even further and say the umpire is an embarrassment to humanity.

  • @guyincognito210
    @guyincognito210 Год назад +3

    The problem started when the players couldn't "argue balls and strikes" as a zero tolerance policy. I agree the ump should be allowed to have a bit of a quick hook but the player should be allowed to turn to the ump and say something. Something respectful like" no that way outside, or you missed that one Angel, without getting thrown out. If they are making a big fuss by all means toss em. Being able to hold the ump accountable even with just a few words makes a difference in the whole game.

    • @LanceCriminal1337
      @LanceCriminal1337 Год назад +1

      Lmao… “you missed that one Angel”. Truth

    • @adamwatkins1150
      @adamwatkins1150 Год назад +1

      You really think that's all that they're saying to get hooked? Get informed.

    • @easetheweeb
      @easetheweeb Год назад

      angel with the out of nowhere but warranted corn

  • @LouChivas914
    @LouChivas914 Год назад +1

    A few days ago the ump vs the dodgers was absolutely terrible an embarrassment

  • @elginvenable5358
    @elginvenable5358 Год назад +1

    To end with "not particularly classy there" talking bout the umps, is choice to hear

  • @teamensa
    @teamensa Год назад +3

    One of the pitches they show when reviewing this sequence was correctly called a ball by the umpire. The umpire missed one call which was on the margins, then the player was ejected for throwing equipment after being warned. Pretty much a textbook ejection based on the rules.

  • @gatapride
    @gatapride Год назад

    The pitch the announcers said was Strike 2----- WAS CALLED A BALL. What are they watching? Third strike was close enough for a strike.

  • @billymuellerTikTok
    @billymuellerTikTok Год назад

    we don't know what the player said. he may have cursed him out. technically, it's automatic ejection for arguing balls and strikes, this is the way it is supposed to be called all the time, but they umpires are usually a lot more lenient. as far as the strike or ball, yeah, it was outside, but as long as the umpire is consistent for both teams then it's fine. those pitches would have been uncontested strikes in the 90's with Maddux and Glavine on the mound and if a player in the 90's did what Urias did he would have gotten thrown out as well. the third strike was CLOSER than the second - the hitter needs to realize this and protect the plate and try to foul it off. my biggest gripe is the umpires no longer use the chest protector and line up off-center over the catcher's shoulder. from that angle (and at the high speeds and movement from high spin rates pitchers have today and the catchers' framing abilities), it makes it harder for them to call that a ball because the catcher's glove and head are blocking his view of that corner of the plate. when we get to robo umpires these will be balls, but then the offense and game time will increase a lot so don't be surprised if MLB decides to help even things out for the pitchers and increases the size of home plate the way they did the bases to create LESS offense OR if MLB starts calling the balls at the letters a strike again.

  • @MikeBUSA
    @MikeBUSA Год назад +1

    I was sitting 17 rows up behind the Orioles dugout and could see those pitches from where I was sitting. The throws were also pretty low and it was obvious those were terrible calls from even that far away. Batter didn't do much except for highlighting how shitty the ump's eyesight is.

  • @TWISTEDGiraff3
    @TWISTEDGiraff3 Год назад

    Legitimate question, what should the ump do instead? Urias tossing his equipment off at home plate and challenging the ump's authority. It was a questionable call, but honestly I think this is a case of good catcher framing more than anything. Catcher framing is one aspect of baseball that would be eliminated with robo umps.

  • @TR_145
    @TR_145 Год назад

    The batter gets warned for an equipment violation and then proceeds to throw another piece of equipment? That's an automatic ejection.

  • @GIMMETHELOOTNOW
    @GIMMETHELOOTNOW Год назад +2

    👓 here you go ump, you need these

  • @garyhart2689
    @garyhart2689 Год назад

    That wasn't the strike two pitch that was shown from the overhead. It's a disingenuous attack on the umpire. Also, there was a warning for throwing equipment and he continued to throw more equipment, necesitating the ejection.

  • @MrSeezero
    @MrSeezero Год назад +3

    We appreciate your help, but we still lost. Go Tigers!!!

    • @mattb2389
      @mattb2389 Год назад

      they've been calling them on the Tiger hitters too. Not like it matters. Tigers can't hit.

    • @JRoss-up6we
      @JRoss-up6we Год назад

      @@mattb2389 Tigers can hit, they just can't score runs.

  • @rayrussell6258
    @rayrussell6258 Год назад

    Somebody in the MLB Commissioner's Office should be doing quality reviews of umpires every day, and give these new umpires constructive criticism every week. Send them back to the Minors if they don't improve.
    Embarrassment is one description, but I prefer saying these new guys are getting lazy, I've never seen so many calls overturned by video review. Used to be, the review proved the umpire right.

  • @MattLong101
    @MattLong101 Год назад +3

    What were yall saying before they put the box on the screen? Those pitches were to close to take. and when the announcer said it was strike two, that was the one he actually called a ball.

    • @TorchDeeJ
      @TorchDeeJ Год назад

      too close? yeah a whole ball outside. terrible calls

  • @rca19
    @rca19 Год назад

    Umpires have this notion that they are superior to the game. Players should be able to have their say and complain without being tossed.

    • @mptr1783
      @mptr1783 Год назад

      yes, but MLB(the umpires boss) tells them to eject when they argue balls and strikes.....

  • @joemauer8533
    @joemauer8533 Год назад

    Just because you're an umpire doesn't mean you're a professional.

  • @chipdayton1625
    @chipdayton1625 Год назад +7

    The over head view that the announcers said was strike two was called a ball.

    • @snapmalloy5556
      @snapmalloy5556 Год назад +1

      Couldn't even get the replay correct

    • @TorchDeeJ
      @TorchDeeJ Год назад

      @@snapmalloy5556 Thats not the announcers fault. they figured whoever is running the replays was ganna put both bad calls. eithger way it was terrible calls and an ego umpire who couldnt take some mouthing off. doesnt look like anything was badly said to him

    • @chipdayton1625
      @chipdayton1625 Год назад

      @@TorchDeeJ the ump didn't signal a strike, they should be aware enough to realize that.

    • @snapmalloy5556
      @snapmalloy5556 Год назад +1

      @Chip Dayton
      You can see him hand the catcher the replacement ball....Might be a clue...🤣

  • @BowlerScott
    @BowlerScott Год назад

    Announcers couldn't have called it better

  • @TheMaciejjy
    @TheMaciejjy Год назад

    I'm kinda new to Baseball.
    Any specific reason why decision about strike/ball cannot be "automated"? Looks like system know right away either ball was in or outside zone. Why to leave this decision to old man eyes?

    • @sherman4114
      @sherman4114 Год назад +1

      A few reasons. First, there are a few systems that are being tested right now that can call balls and strikes. They mostly work but have had some mess ups, even an ejection for arguing against the computer. The biggest issue is defining what a strike is. That may seem silly, but they tried a rulebook strike zone with the system and it was hated by players. What is being called now is not quite the rulebook strike zone.

  • @deansapp4635
    @deansapp4635 Год назад +1

    Gotta love Jim Palmer HOF

  • @epifunny1
    @epifunny1 Год назад

    Umpires should be made to draw line on the plate to show where the pitch was when they throw someone out. Then you could compare the actual pitch placement with the line they thought the ball was on. LOL.... "uh, I thought it was over here by 8 more inches". "No buddy... we got you on tape now...."

  • @wholearmor
    @wholearmor Год назад +1

    They've made all those other changes. They have replay to get all the calls right that they can. Why not electronic balls and strikes? Why not get all the pitches right?

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug Год назад

      There would be a review every other pitch. Game would never end.

    • @wholearmor
      @wholearmor Год назад

      @@TheFrenchPug They don't review them now and the umps miss 25% or more. No reason to ever review electronic balls and strikes. It's very accurate now.

    • @TheFrenchPug
      @TheFrenchPug Год назад

      @Scott Evans I thought you were asking to review the called balls and strikes someone wants to challenge.

    • @wholearmor
      @wholearmor Год назад

      @@TheFrenchPug I was referring to already having replay to get other calls right. So why not electronic balls and strikes to get those right?

    • @wholearmor
      @wholearmor Год назад

      But the Daren umpires would probably threaten to strike. They make the game less fun to watch. I think the players would do a better job umpiring themselves.

  • @JustineLaLoba
    @JustineLaLoba Год назад

    ...
    ever since they put up the electronic box it shows just how many calls have been missed. Start using it!

  • @tscott6843
    @tscott6843 Год назад

    The ump has a tough job. One he signed on for and is well paid. He is also part of the game and deserves criticism and praise as is appropriate. Blowing the call on a pitch can be forgiven. Doubling down with an ejection stings for a long time. He needs thicker skin than that.

  • @craiglindecamp9589
    @craiglindecamp9589 Год назад +2

    Hell yeah Jim Palmer

  • @GuyCarpenter-hp2ln
    @GuyCarpenter-hp2ln Год назад +6

    Great job by the broadcast team.

    • @Whatwilloweats
      @Whatwilloweats Год назад +2

      By getting things wrong? Not knowing what they are talking about. Go back and look. The first pitch they show. That they claim is strike two. That pitch was actually called ball one

    • @MH-Tesla
      @MH-Tesla Год назад +1

      Really? Announcer is an embarrassment to his profession. Watch again... 0:41.

    • @Whatwilloweats
      @Whatwilloweats Год назад +1

      @@MH-Tesla I keep watching and watching. Because the ump gives the catcher a new ball. And the announcer say it’s strike two. We should believe the ump called it a strike when he didn’t? Cause the announcer says so?

    • @pepawg2281
      @pepawg2281 Год назад

      Yeah, that's Jim Palmer. Excellent pitcher, sketchy color man. Very opoinionated. Almost every sentence contains " you know".

  • @NomadicBrian
    @NomadicBrian 11 месяцев назад

    That's a very sensitive Ump. Somebody book a Spa day with a pedicure so he feels better. 🤣

  • @jeffwright7587
    @jeffwright7587 Год назад +3

    This is an example of the announcers not knowing the rules, regardless of their HOF status. When the batter (softly) threw 2 items to the ground after the strike 3 call, the umpire gave him an "equipment warning" (0:22). The warning means that if you throw any other equipment to the ground, you are ejected by rule (umpire HAS to eject you)-doesn't have anything to do with "showing up the umpire" or whatever.
    As for the quality of the strike calls, strike 1 was swinging, and strike 2 (0:03) was on the corner and was correctly called a strike (note that the supposed replay at 0:38 of "strike 2" was actually video of "ball 1"). Strike 3 shows as a ball on the telecast, but is (surprisingly) within the margin of computer error (+/- 1" on either corner)-so maybe it was a bad call but maybe it wasn't. See ruclips.net/video/Gq-whWa6Pno/видео.html for a more unbiased look at this ejection. Oftentimes, announcers are just as biased as players, keep in mind.

  • @annettemalaski1967
    @annettemalaski1967 Год назад

    When the helmet goes off in the vincinity of home plate like that it is an equipment violation and an automatic ejection! These broadcasters are biased.

  • @themoosayscow
    @themoosayscow Год назад

    Watched this game too, there were some absolutely wild bad strike calls

  • @filejw862
    @filejw862 Год назад

    The reason MLB needs some type of auto call Balls and Strikes kinda like tennis.The fans deserve accuracy it would provide and as the announcer said people don pay to see the umpires.The mores invisible they are the better .

  • @sagaswp
    @sagaswp Год назад

    More announcers need to call out umpire's bullshit, since the coaches and players literally can't without getting fined.

  • @DarksouIjah
    @DarksouIjah Год назад

    Umps, refs need to be fined for blatant terrible calls. That is one way to fix this issue.

  • @lancefimiani4294
    @lancefimiani4294 Год назад +1

    Jim Palmer go crazy

  • @bobfeller604
    @bobfeller604 Год назад

    It's about time that the computer call balls and strikes.

  • @jeremybear573
    @jeremybear573 Год назад +1

    Let's Go Os!!

  • @chrisl478
    @chrisl478 Год назад

    If a robot can vacuum my carpet and another one can mow my lawn, I'm pretty sure a robot can determine if a pitch is a ball or a strike. It's time.

  • @austinneveau9387
    @austinneveau9387 Год назад

    everybody saying "they didnt come to see the ump". guess what? nobody is going to a game that isnt officiated lol. like it or not this has always been a part of baseball. sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesnt. that announcer should know better than anyone else in spite of the comment he decided to make. wants to see the orioles do good and showing the homer side which isnt a problem. but dont put one ump on blast for keeping games professional.

    • @austinneveau9387
      @austinneveau9387 Год назад

      guess what happens if you let players act unprofessional; whining, bitching, crying about strikes and balls. they'll continue to do it more. they need to be professional. that ejection wasn't about bringing attention to himself as the ump. it was about setting a standard and I fully agree with that sentiment.

  • @MSWSB
    @MSWSB Год назад

    If the player delays the game or physically assaults someone, he should be penalized in whatever way the league dictates.
    If it simply is clear that the player disagrees with the call, quit being a victim, ump, and take your medicine.
    The players get paid to do a good job, or be told by spectators, reporters, coaches, and other players when they suck.
    Do better, or grow thicker skin.

  • @Andrew_Waples
    @Andrew_Waples Год назад

    Yeah, I'm sure Detroit wasn't questioning the call though...

  • @WolfRaging95
    @WolfRaging95 Год назад

    These umpires are definitely out of hand and need to be reminded that they aren’t the show.

  • @joncohen6059
    @joncohen6059 Год назад

    "Orioles announcer" you mean hall of fame pitcher Jim Palmer

  • @chrisbarr959
    @chrisbarr959 Год назад

    he was calling it this way for both teams the tigers announcers were on him to

  • @cblanton
    @cblanton Год назад

    The ignorance of some on this channel. The first overhead pitch was the ball in the dirt. It was called a ball indicated by no "Strike call" by the umpire. The second one was a little outside. However MLB rules state that throwing of equipment (in this case the helmet) is a warning. Which he was given. The second is an automatic ejection. How dare the umpire enforcement rules. I get so tired of hearing people say (nobody came to see you umpire). All he did was enforce the rule that MLB made.

  • @tonyc8752
    @tonyc8752 Год назад

    I’ve noticed Umpires usually get it right but then all of the sudden forget the strikezone as soon as there is a RISP and the call alters the likelihood of runs. And all of this with MLB in the tank for gambling markets now

  • @luischavezjr6047
    @luischavezjr6047 Год назад

    Jim has a point. I’ve never paid & went to an MLB game to see an umpire call the game 🤷🏾‍♂️
    I’m there for my team and team only

  • @farpointgamingdirect
    @farpointgamingdirect Год назад

    I called the umpires union to complain, but they missed the call...

  • @alvinwagner6085
    @alvinwagner6085 Год назад

    How does the League continue to put up with this horrendous umpiring. Umpires union must be stronger than the Teamsters. No way an average guy could suck at his job that bad and still be employed.

  • @asthemillertoldhistale1361
    @asthemillertoldhistale1361 Год назад +1

    Expect this when you give the umpires more power over the game.

  • @daleperry4771
    @daleperry4771 Год назад

    Need to start walking out of the stadium, after demanding a refund for your ticket fee! If enough teams start to feel the pinch they will put pressure on the league to fire these bad umpires.