This fire pit is one of a few covered pits that is on the list ruclips.net/user/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM of approved products for Disney Fort Wilderness. The product served its purpose well and provided excellent fires throughout the evening. We were able to open the door and do s'mores, but I had to be careful because the handle was a bit hot on occasions. Additionally, I wish they had replaced some of the standard nuts with lock nuts in some places. We lost the door handle after just a couple of days of usage. Not a deal breaker, just a recommendation. I still give it 5 stars.
The best instructions I've found for the pitched ceiling installation. It never occured to me to mount the adjustable wings beneath the roof deck rather than on top of it, easy to do on a new roof. A great help. TY!
Looks great bit of advice for next time the boot should be installed like a diamond so when the water hits it it runs off and down the roof . It won’t just sit there at the seal, plumber by the way
both of these comments are not correct, per the manufacturer of that boot a diamond shape is only necessary on a roof with a slope of 10/12 of more and the instructions explicitly state to silicone the entire boot.
I’ve been looking for a video like this for weeks. I am doing an off grid cabin and bought all the stove pipe. The exact same things you have. Same roof panels and everything. Great video. Thanks for posting. Now I feel That I can install my own chimney
Good video. I'll be doing an additional installation using a Selkirk 6T-PCK sloped ceiling kit as you did, to add a waste oil burning stove to the spare bedroom of my log cabin. The only thing that you might have done differently would have been to cut an elliptical hole in the roof, matching your roof pitch with your vertical pipe so as to get consistently 2" spacing all around the pipe, vs. cutting just round 12" hole.
Boy is that roof flashing a whole lot nicer than the old metal ones we had to work with years ago !!! What a great development in chimney technology!!! Great video from an old stove dealer and installer ! You can spray the stainless with flat black paint for stainless steel pipe for a finish too.
I spend a lot of money for propane can on propane gas heat during the first year and after that I put a firewood stove in our cabin and it work 10x better and save big $
Thanks for the video. We are about to instal a wood stove and after hearing the costs from the "pros", I am reevaluating and thinking of doing it myself. Question - why did you silicone the bottom of the rubberized flashing around the exhaust pipe? I was also told never to seal the bottom edge in case moisture ever gets under it, it will be trapped. Thoughts?
You can take some flat black stove paint to the chimney if you want it to match the rest of the pipe. It will be nice not having to burn up your propane to heat. I'm sure you've got plenty of scrap wood around.
Is this holding up well? I'm going to do the same things, but worried it will act as a water dam and leak. Going to orient it like a diamond but still skeptical of it on the green metal roof
Not all double wall is the same, I have a hollow through both end and short double wall connect right on each other with the cap just 1.5ft above the roof but I see many others are more than 3ft off the roof, would it be safe just 1.5ft above the roof?
This is so helpful. We are thinking of installing a similar wood stove (Englander 2000) at our cabin and maybe I could do it myself. What about permits and inspection? We live in Oregon and are required to have it inspected. How do you like the Vogelzang Defender Wood Stove now, a year later? Still recommend it? Thank you for sharing this very helpful video.
How tall is the finished chimney from the collar on the top of the stove? I have a Defender II 2020 model stove and I am having issues getting it to draft well. My old Logwood stove worked well.
Depends on where you are talking about. The manufacturer of each part has minimum recommendations. For example the Class A chimney pipe was 2" to combustibles. The stove was 12", single wall is 18", etc.
Just a little help don't forget to put rock will insulation around the pipe going threw the roof in the ceiling . So it don't condense water and drip on your pretty wood ceiling . You did a great job on the venting . Looks good !
@@JackofAllMasterofNone Your welcome we need to start watching out for each other . I'm in in heating trade .. it will save you in the winter from having to deal with a leaky roof
Now that you’ve used it, do you wish you had gotten a smaller one? Does it get too toasty in that small of a cabin? I’m doing the same thing and was afraid that stove might be too big for a 12x32’ cabin.
There is a learning curve with this stove. It will definitely run you out of the cabin if you let it. Let the fire get too hot for a few minutes and the stove overheats and starts to give off smoke. Don't get it hot enough and no heat comes out. It is for sure too big for my application, but since I got such a good deal on it I'm learning how to use it in my setup. I installed another damper in the chimney to help hold it down once its good and hot. Also, I use smaller logs and let them burn down more before reloading the stove. If I ever run across a better, smaller stove for a good deal, I'd probably replace it and sell this one, but for as much as I use it, it works just fine.
@@Loveisthegreater If I could do it over I would probably try and find one of the old school cast iron log wood style stoves with a window on the front so I could see the flames. Would be able to cook nicely on it and it would be smaller and more appropriate for a cabin like mine.
I have about the same square footage as your cabin. I'm probably going to go with the Drolet Escape 1800 stove. 500 to 2100 square feet. I believe it takes 18" pieces and will last 8 hours burn time. No catalytic converter. No blower unless you want to use a blower. You can cook on top of it. It weighs 382 lbs and the firebrick is all replaceable with off the shelf firebrick. $1299.00
@@woodspirit98 -I ended up picking up a used Jotul F100 for $600. It works great in winter! Spring and summer it’s too hot and I have to keep all windows open, so I have to come up with a seasonal alternative. I love electric oil radiator, but not sure I want to go on grid even for a few months. Propane would be nice but I haven’t found a (small) propane furnace that doesn’t give me a headache. So, still trying to work Spring and Summer out.
Yes I did, after the fact. Technically the EPA stoves don't need one but by adding an additional damper on the chimney you can slow down the burn even more and it works great.
Looks great. I grew up with wood heat. The plus and minus. Would like to have seen the install dimensions, distances to combustibles, every part of the stove has a minimum clearance to combustibles, and non combustibles. The place looks great. The distance from combustibles looks Very close, but if it’s within code, heat it up. Heat it up, almost over fire it. If your comfortable enough to go to sleep with it running wide open dampener you score an A. If you always second guess the heat transfer, then you should have given the clearance where the pipe went through the roof sheathing and the blocking added to support the weight of chimney. Looks great!
It's all clearanced more than the stove manufacturer minimums. Additionally I used rockwool insulation in the ceiling around the pipe. This wood stove has a lot of shielding on the back, sides and bottom being a modern unit. Unlike an old school cast iron unit, these can have clearances as small as 6 inches. Not to mention I installed the metal backing with a 1" air gap, which was totally unnecessary but added insurance to protect the pine walls.
This fire pit is one of a few covered pits that is on the list ruclips.net/user/postUgkxAU9pOCSV9Y5JprooHvfxTpOrt4hx8uRM of approved products for Disney Fort Wilderness. The product served its purpose well and provided excellent fires throughout the evening. We were able to open the door and do s'mores, but I had to be careful because the handle was a bit hot on occasions. Additionally, I wish they had replaced some of the standard nuts with lock nuts in some places. We lost the door handle after just a couple of days of usage. Not a deal breaker, just a recommendation. I still give it 5 stars.
The best instructions I've found for the pitched ceiling installation. It never occured to me to mount the adjustable wings beneath the roof deck rather than on top of it, easy to do on a new roof. A great help. TY!
Glad it helped
Looks great bit of advice for next time the boot should be installed like a diamond so when the water hits it it runs off and down the roof . It won’t just sit there at the seal, plumber by the way
Im actually doing this right now in my house but havent done got the boot on the roof or the pipe threw but great piece of advice
Also it’s recommended not to silicone the bottom of the boot in case water comes in from the top side it won’t pool up
both of these comments are not correct, per the manufacturer of that boot a diamond shape is only necessary on a roof with a slope of 10/12 of more and the instructions explicitly state to silicone the entire boot.
I’ve been looking for a video like this for weeks. I am doing an off grid cabin and bought all the stove pipe. The exact same things you have. Same roof panels and everything. Great video. Thanks for posting. Now I feel That I can install my own chimney
You can do it for sure. Good luck.
I really liked the look of the chimney even with the metal part. Thanks for sharing.
Good video. I'll be doing an additional installation using a Selkirk 6T-PCK sloped ceiling kit as you did, to add a waste oil burning stove to the spare bedroom of my log cabin. The only thing that you might have done differently would have been to cut an elliptical hole in the roof, matching your roof pitch with your vertical pipe so as to get consistently 2" spacing all around the pipe, vs. cutting just round 12" hole.
Dude good choice on the collar master of none
Boy is that roof flashing a whole lot nicer than the old metal ones we had to work with years ago !!! What a great development in chimney technology!!! Great video from an old stove dealer and installer ! You can spray the stainless with flat black paint for stainless steel pipe for a finish too.
I spend a lot of money for propane can on propane gas heat during the first year and after that I put a firewood stove in our cabin and it work 10x better and save big $
Awesome......Wish I could have a chimney-like this here in India.
Thanks for the video. We are about to instal a wood stove and after hearing the costs from the "pros", I am reevaluating and thinking of doing it myself. Question - why did you silicone the bottom of the rubberized flashing around the exhaust pipe? I was also told never to seal the bottom edge in case moisture ever gets under it, it will be trapped. Thoughts?
You may want to do some more research... That's all I will say. I did it correctly.
Thanks for passing along the video.. what was the final trim piece made of? Was it part of the kit?
Metal and yes part of kit.
You can paint the stainless pipe inside. It is insulated and high temp paint will do it
Your wife is a very good helper---
I agree. The best.
Great video thank you for the item listings it’s a huge help.
You can take some flat black stove paint to the chimney if you want it to match the rest of the pipe. It will be nice not having to burn up your propane to heat. I'm sure you've got plenty of scrap wood around.
I went back and forth on whether I wanted to paint it. I decided I like it as is.
Thank you for providing the amazon parts list as I need this same setup exactly. Not easy to find these things locally. :)
Got identical stove you gonna be happy with it be servings me for over 10 years changed a few bricks that all good work take care be safe
Excellent. Thanks
Did you just drill the fasteners straight into the decking or framing?
Is this holding up well? I'm going to do the same things, but worried it will act as a water dam and leak. Going to orient it like a diamond but still skeptical of it on the green metal roof
Not all double wall is the same, I have a hollow through both end and short double wall connect right on each other with the cap just 1.5ft above the roof but I see many others are more than 3ft off the roof, would it be safe just 1.5ft above the roof?
Triple wall where it leaves the house.
What did you put behind the metal to the wall?
Porcelain spacers made for this purpose
Thanks for sharing this. How did it work out so far, any leaks? I have a question about the Selkirk 'roof support package'
Brackets I used were adjustable. No there are no leaks.
Well Done. I hope mine comes out as well.
Nice work! Where in Ohio are you located? Just got a cabin and need help installing a wood stove.
great job thank for the info
This is so helpful. We are thinking of installing a similar wood stove (Englander 2000) at our cabin and maybe I could do it myself. What about permits and inspection? We live in Oregon and are required to have it inspected. How do you like the Vogelzang Defender Wood Stove now, a year later? Still recommend it?
Thank you for sharing this very helpful video.
It is a very nice stove. Takes a little getting used to. No permits or inspections here.
How tall is the finished chimney from the collar on the top of the stove?
I have a Defender II 2020 model stove and I am having issues getting it to draft well. My old Logwood stove worked well.
It's around 10-12 feet. Drafts good.
Wouldn't be wiser to rotate the boot 45 deg ?
No
Yes it would! It will hold water and eventually leak.
Great job !
Sir, what kind of wood did you use interior?
Pine
I like your hearth, how did you make that?
ruclips.net/video/4aMJ9v6J8kw/видео.htmlsi=kjeregDLXv0J5R-H
Don't like the way that rubber boot is all twisted, snow and rain will build up on that with the potential to leak.
What clearances did you go with from combustible’s?
Depends on where you are talking about. The manufacturer of each part has minimum recommendations. For example the Class A chimney pipe was 2" to combustibles. The stove was 12", single wall is 18", etc.
How did I missed the build for the base/floor of the stove area? Great little series.
Build it with 2x6's and plywood.
Just a little help don't forget to put rock will insulation around the pipe going threw the roof in the ceiling . So it don't condense water and drip on your pretty wood ceiling .
You did a great job on the venting . Looks good !
Thank you. I was wondering if it would benefit from some rock wool in there.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone
Your welcome we need to start watching out for each other . I'm in in heating trade .. it will save you in the winter from having to deal with a leaky roof
Question. Is it necessary to use rock wool in the wall behind the heat shield?
@@woodspirit98
Depends on what kind of heat shield ? Sometimes you want air to behind a heatsheild .
Now that you’ve used it, do you wish you had gotten a smaller one? Does it get too toasty in that small of a cabin? I’m doing the same thing and was afraid that stove might be too big for a 12x32’ cabin.
There is a learning curve with this stove. It will definitely run you out of the cabin if you let it. Let the fire get too hot for a few minutes and the stove overheats and starts to give off smoke. Don't get it hot enough and no heat comes out. It is for sure too big for my application, but since I got such a good deal on it I'm learning how to use it in my setup. I installed another damper in the chimney to help hold it down once its good and hot. Also, I use smaller logs and let them burn down more before reloading the stove. If I ever run across a better, smaller stove for a good deal, I'd probably replace it and sell this one, but for as much as I use it, it works just fine.
@@Loveisthegreater If I could do it over I would probably try and find one of the old school cast iron log wood style stoves with a window on the front so I could see the flames. Would be able to cook nicely on it and it would be smaller and more appropriate for a cabin like mine.
I have about the same square footage as your cabin. I'm probably going to go with the Drolet Escape 1800 stove. 500 to 2100 square feet. I believe it takes 18" pieces and will last 8 hours burn time. No catalytic converter. No blower unless you want to use a blower. You can cook on top of it. It weighs 382 lbs and the firebrick is all replaceable with off the shelf firebrick. $1299.00
@@woodspirit98 -I ended up picking up a used Jotul F100 for $600. It works great in winter! Spring and summer it’s too hot and I have to keep all windows open, so I have to come up with a seasonal alternative. I love electric oil radiator, but not sure I want to go on grid even for a few months. Propane would be nice but I haven’t found a (small) propane furnace that doesn’t give me a headache. So, still trying to work Spring and Summer out.
@@Loveisthegreaterwhere are you where you need heat in the summer?
Did you guys install a damper on your stove pipe? 🤔
Yes I did, after the fact. Technically the EPA stoves don't need one but by adding an additional damper on the chimney you can slow down the burn even more and it works great.
chimney should be 2 feet higher than peak of your roof which is within 10 feet, not just 2 feet above the roof at chimney location
Yeah..... It is
Looks great. I grew up with wood heat. The plus and minus. Would like to have seen the install dimensions, distances to combustibles, every part of the stove has a minimum clearance to combustibles, and non combustibles. The place looks great. The distance from combustibles looks Very close, but if it’s within code, heat it up. Heat it up, almost over fire it. If your comfortable enough to go to sleep with it running wide open dampener you score an A. If you always second guess the heat transfer, then you should have given the clearance where the pipe went through the roof sheathing and the blocking added to support the weight of chimney. Looks great!
It's all clearanced more than the stove manufacturer minimums. Additionally I used rockwool insulation in the ceiling around the pipe. This wood stove has a lot of shielding on the back, sides and bottom being a modern unit. Unlike an old school cast iron unit, these can have clearances as small as 6 inches. Not to mention I installed the metal backing with a 1" air gap, which was totally unnecessary but added insurance to protect the pine walls.
You didn't say or show what you used for a spacer behind metal??
I did and it's also in the description.
Imperial Wall Spacing Kit amzn.to/38tIWur
What did you use for spacers for the metal tin ?
It was a kit. They are ceramic
Here's one you can buy in Canada: www.homedepot.ca/product/imperial-wall-shield-spacing-kit-4-pack-/1000146538
why do you put vertical space between the hearth and the metal panels?
It's probably not necessary but a lot of places it's code to have 1" spacing on all sides.
Suppose to cut an elliptical hole in s sloped roof, not a perfect circle
Yep. 👍
Does that rubber boot cause problems with snowy conditions?
No
Have you heard about those type of flashing boot catching in fire
@@adanmendozamonterreythose triple wall chimney pipes don't even get hot, so user error. The double wall used inside barely get hot to the touch
What did you use for spacers between the wood wall and the corrugated heat reflector?
Ceramic spacers. They came in a kit just for that purpose.