My goodness, Johan ! I have never heard such great riffage I think the gear you use must take some credit, even if only to inspire such awesome playing ! UNDERBAR !!!
Love it! Your playing "stance" when you started was spot on, right for the aggressive nature of what you were playing. I loved the groove and riffage when the drums were added. Right down my alley! God bless and rock on 🎸👍
Johan,I heard that Tony Iommi used Fane speakers have you had a opportunity to try any of the Fanes. The Cal Jam concert was at Ontario motor Speedway I grew up in a town just north against the foothills. Unfortunately Ontario Motor speedway no longer exists anymore.
video is great,your playing guitar and drums is really awesome, i loved that,guitar rocking and bam, drums kick in, i was like ,oh yes this is awesome ,thank you also for sharing your knowlegde of music gear and music
What a great vid. I have a couple of those speakers(T1976) from 1973 with Pulsonic cones and 4 ridge spiders. I put them in a 4x12 with some V30s. Sounds fantastic. I’ve always wondered about the cabs Iommi used with the silver dust caps but have never seen any reference to these speakers.
Nice runs...definitely deep in the Iommi vein with the rig, Laney always has that signature: "trashy," tone element no matter what instrument or preamp is plugged into it....I have a 1989-issue AOR 100W which I use sometimes...good for those Manni Schmidt Grave Digger songs....
The first 2 albums are with an SG special with P90's I believe. Later ones are some sort of special humbucker. Tychobrahe wah is impossible to get nowadays.
@@JohanSegeborn I am not sure on the first, since he used some strat and when that guitar failed he used the SG. Edit: some info on gearpage said that the P90 on neck pickup was just wax potted in different casing to remove noise on the first album in 1969. By 1970, John Birch Simplux overwound P90 single coil was used. The custom strat was used on the song "wicked world" of the first album.
Chicago Iron makes the Tycobrahe Wha (parapedal) they call it the Parachute, Toni Iommi has used it for all the sabbath reunion tours, even the earliest in 07? Sorry I can’t remember what year that tour and album was, it’s not cheap, but an original is up to 5k
Sounds awesome. Tighter and less fuzzy than Tony which is a good thing - more Van halen brown sound. I use mine with kot pedal for drive and it just sounds big . Set everything to sound purposely dark on the bass channel, daisy chain to treble then use that volume to add a bit of needed sparkle.
What a great sound. Something I’m always trying to nail. I need to buy a Supergroup. I’m just using my Catalinbread Sabbra Cadabra pedal or Astral Toneworx Heaven and Hell pedal (both jfet based Supergroup preamps) into EL34 power and cranking it up almost full and plugged into my attenuator. I want to get the little LA30BL head and try that into some 12H-30’s. I wish the Jessup Amps still made the all tube Laney Supergroup preamp. This rig sounds amazing though!
Hi Johan, this is a cool one, great that you finally got your hands on the full Ioomi rig with the right speakers! As a Sabbath fan, I really do appreciate that. It's definitely got the right vibes going on, there's a special Johan tone footprint nevertheless (different pups, strings and treble booster probably involved, too)! 😁 Love the drum track part, that seriously kicks ass!🤘More of that, please!
PERFECT TIMING! As I have been on a Black sabbath kick looking to both Geezer, and Tony's rigs, while experimenting with my own sound recording. Would love to see you do the same with Geezer's original rig. I think Tony and Geezer shared amps in the beginning? Great work once again.
The EMG Geezer Butler signature p bass pickup is amazing. I’ve got it in a p bass of mine and it doesn’t just sound good for Sabbath and heavy stuff, it’s just a great p bass pickup. Would love to play that bass through one of the 100 watt Supergroup reissues and see how it sounds.
Never heard anything closer to Tony Iommi's sound that this. All them youtubers always has too much lowend and non existent treble bite. This is awesome, full meaty sound with that angry topend bite. Well done Johan.
Great show John about a great subject but I’m gonna throw my two cents in and say that the speaker is bright for what I think was a part of Tony sound also Tony used hotter humbckers which also influences the sound… Anyway, keep on rockin
I don't know where do you get the Greenback thing, there's no mention of it anywhere. In the early days he used a Laney Supergroup with treble boost into a Laney Cab with Audiom speakers. Later in the 80's he used many different amps, most notably Marshalls and from what i could gather Marshall's choice of speaker was the T75 at that time, which i can totally hear on later albums like Headless Cross and Tyr. His latest gear include one of his signature amps like the GH100Ti and recently the TI100 and his website states that his cabinets are loaded with G12H30 Creambacks and his monitor speakers with T75's.
Laney is so underrated. Many years ago, I went to HiPro Music in Malmö to buy a Marshall combo. The clerk insisted that I should try a Laney also. I wanted a Marshall. But he continued insisting so in the end I brought it into the testing room together with the Marshall. I went home with the Laney. Still one of the best combos I have ever tried.
Definitely need way more preamp overdrive or fuzz. This is like the band Free's guitar sound or Ram Jam's. I read that back in the 70's before the wide selection of pedal effects Tony Iommi used something called a Range Master Treble Booster
Strongly disagree. People often overestimate how distorted the classic guitar tones actually were. They are almost all less distorted than one thinks they are hearing on the original recording. This includes Van Halen I, BTW. These tones were then altered during production.
Now that you’ve done the Laney rig…. Try his mighty rig from the early ‘80’s…! You’ll need the rare Mesa Colliseum 300 watt boogie head… For me, his ultimate tone…the LE album absolutely crushes anything before or since…
the g12h 30 watt 75hz is my favorite i have the heritage reissue of this speaker in a 2x12 openback cabinet it nails all 70s hardrock tone better than the regular g12m 75hz this g12h 75hz speaker with a plexi style amp is killer
Have you ever tried the Acoustic research amps? My friend had one in the 70s, all I remember was it had a EQ and it got a pretty good Black Sabbath sound. It was surprising for solid state
do you have or know anyone with a fender quad reverb with the utah speakers in the cab? do you by any chanve have a utah speaker laying around? the red label one's that I think were only in the quad reverb. can you sell it to me? p.s. is that your wife making fika in the kithcen?
I think it sounded pretty good ,back when sabbath was playing he had that real fuzzy tone but not enough that it killed his notes like he controled it well ,today no matter how much we try we wont get those tones ,today they have so many amps, pedals and effects its no match , back then most amps sounded great just plug your guitar in and your off to the races so to speak , we will never produce amps like again even if 1 copacitor is 1/2 microfered off it will change the tone copacitors back then i think were wound with paper now days they are plastic and also the tone would probably change with time as well ,but yeah it sounded pretty good to me , also back then pickups were wound different as well which in turn effects tone same as capacitor 1/2 wound off tone change its just impossible to reproduce any sound to what it was ,but we will always have fun trying everything till we wonder on what works for us , i wish they had amps like they did in the past ,cool video take care and god bless
@@JohanSegeborn oh yes they are for sure nothing is made like it once was ,but still we will go on trying ,but again you sounded awesome to me, i wish i could get ahold of some of the Gear you have aquired i have a couple of marshalls 1 100 watt one the other a 50 watt one has a 2x12 cab the other 4x12 and i have a few blackstar amps and a couple of boss katana amps, guitars i have 2 charvel San dimas guitars and 3 harley bentons and 3 wolfgang standards i have a boss gt 1 effects and a boss me 80 effects ,nothing really major just stuff that gets me by i suppose ,im on disabilty cause i had hit by a forklift at work a few yrs ago ,about all i do now is sit in the bedroom and play all the time my wife gets upset sometimes but i guess she doesnt understand guitar players sometimes ill get up at 3 or 4 un the morning and play seems like when that happens the best stuff comes out of me, oh well sorry for my life story ..take it easy and stay safe god bless
On the first album he was using Gibson P90s but he started using super high-output John Birch P90s soon thereafter. Normal P90s would sound too thin so unless you can find high-gain P90s (there aren't very many), a humbucker is the next closest thing.
You ever wonder what 47 Marshall stacks sound like dimed out inside a VW Bug? You’re in the right place
When push comes to shove....You can only trust yourself and the six first Black Sabbath albums !!!
Hahaha! Amen to that
Nope, Only Christ
Djeeezuz !@@micahwatz1148
i mean, you are not wrong
on 8 track, and the world is at peace
That sounds wonderful! And your tune is great!
Johan rocks!!! Love what you do.
Thanks Brian! Really good to hear that
My goodness, Johan ! I have never heard such great riffage I think the gear you use must take some credit, even if only to inspire such awesome playing ! UNDERBAR !!!
Thanks my friend, that’s kind of you!
Always a pleasure to see your channel, great to have you back!
Thanks my friend! Glad to hear it
Brilliant Johan! Tone sounded very convincing to me. Looking forward to that Segeborn Brothers album.
Thanks my friend! I’m working on it 😉
yeah dude, you sound amazing like always - I am happy for you, I'm glad you got the Sabbath rig!
Let's go !!!! Nice tune love when you have accompaniment!! 🤙🤙🤟🤟 and wrap up the video
Great tones man!
SERIOUS TONE HERE LOL!!! SOUNDS AWESOME!!! GREAT CHANNEL ❤!!!
That Dan Armstrong cabinet is awesome. I am big fan of Dan Armstrong’s work.
Sounds absolutely wonderful, great playing. :)
Thanks Dennis! Glad to hear it!
I've been preaching T1976's un his early cabs for a decade. I'm glad somebody is finally in my team.
Thanks Johan, completes our conversation from yesterday, lol Great vids as always!
Mate, your videos are so good. One of the best amp demo-ers on RUclips. Thanks for all the content, keep at it :)
Thanks! Really good to hear that
Love it! Your playing "stance" when you started was spot on, right for the aggressive nature of what you were playing. I loved the groove and riffage when the drums were added. Right down my alley! God bless and rock on 🎸👍
Thanks my friend 😂 yeah that’s the only pose that made me not stomp my feet
Playing stance and movement is an interesting subject, it can definitely affect the feel one imparts into their playing
Sounds great Johan! Almost 100k subscribers 🤘 Cheers!
Johan,one ingerdient missing is the P90 pickups in the SG but it still sounds great. Thank you for the cool demo.
Sounding better than ever...
You're a modern master of LOUD (which ain't easy to do)
Cheers matey
Cheers my friend
Great sounding rig Johan and great playing. Thanks for another great video Johan!
Thanks Jeff! Glad you like it!
Your relentless in your quest my friend....many thanks again brother 😎🍷🍺
Thanks Brother! 🍻Cheers
That rig sounds Great to me. Luv how it compelled U to throw down the Heavy Riffs !! \m/
Thanks my friend! 🤘
Johan,I heard that Tony Iommi used Fane speakers have you had a opportunity to try any of the Fanes.
The Cal Jam concert was at Ontario motor Speedway I grew up in a town just north against the foothills. Unfortunately Ontario Motor speedway no longer exists anymore.
Oh WOW! THIS will be phenomenal! Will TRY to be online for it! \m/
Glad to hear it man, see you!
video is great,your playing guitar and drums is really awesome, i loved that,guitar rocking and bam, drums kick in, i was like ,oh yes this is awesome ,thank you also for sharing your knowlegde of music gear and music
Thanks Rob! Great to hear that.
Bravo, Johan, great stuff
Thanks Mark! Glad you like it!
Great rig! Great played !
yes Sabbath tone!!
Thanks! Glad you like it
Your videos are always great! Thanks
Thanks! Really good to hear that!
Love the tones today!
Thanks! Glad to hear it
Greenbacks are my jam 🍻 I love the EVH Celestion G12H speaker 🤘
This is phenomenal!
Thanks! Glad to hear it!
What a great vid. I have a couple of those speakers(T1976) from 1973 with Pulsonic cones and 4 ridge spiders. I put them in a 4x12 with some V30s. Sounds fantastic. I’ve always wondered about the cabs Iommi used with the silver dust caps but have never seen any reference to these speakers.
Nice runs...definitely deep in the Iommi vein with the rig, Laney always has that signature: "trashy," tone element no matter what instrument or preamp is plugged into it....I have a 1989-issue AOR 100W which I use sometimes...good for those Manni Schmidt Grave Digger songs....
Thanks!
The first 2 albums are with an SG special with P90's I believe.
Later ones are some sort of special humbucker. Tychobrahe wah is impossible to get nowadays.
Ah, so the John Birch pickups aren’t on the first two albums?
Yeah, I've heard that too. There's photos of Toni playing an SG with P90s as well.
@@JohanSegeborn I am not sure on the first, since he used some strat and when that guitar failed he used the SG.
Edit: some info on gearpage said that the P90 on neck pickup was just wax potted in different casing to remove noise on the first album in 1969. By 1970, John Birch Simplux overwound P90 single coil was used. The custom strat was used on the song "wicked world" of the first album.
@@wckoekthere is a video of him playing the strat when he was briefly in jethero Tull
Chicago Iron makes the Tycobrahe Wha (parapedal) they call it the Parachute, Toni Iommi has used it for all the sabbath reunion tours, even the earliest in 07? Sorry I can’t remember what year that tour and album was, it’s not cheap, but an original is up to 5k
Great sound .love your playing as always .
Thanks Paul! Glad you like it
Sounds awesome. Tighter and less fuzzy than Tony which is a good thing - more Van halen brown sound. I use mine with kot pedal for drive and it just sounds big . Set everything to sound purposely dark on the bass channel, daisy chain to treble then use that volume to add a bit of needed sparkle.
Thanks! Yeah I used the treble channel here so it’s a bit more 80s-like than his tone
What a great sound. Something I’m always trying to nail. I need to buy a Supergroup. I’m just using my Catalinbread Sabbra Cadabra pedal or Astral Toneworx Heaven and Hell pedal (both jfet based Supergroup preamps) into EL34 power and cranking it up almost full and plugged into my attenuator. I want to get the little LA30BL head and try that into some 12H-30’s. I wish the Jessup Amps still made the all tube Laney Supergroup preamp. This rig sounds amazing though!
Fantastic, thank you.... Try the laney GH 50L
Thanks! I will!
Hi Johan, this is a cool one, great that you finally got your hands on the full Ioomi rig with the right speakers! As a Sabbath fan, I really do appreciate that. It's definitely got the right vibes going on, there's a special Johan tone footprint nevertheless (different pups, strings and treble booster probably involved, too)! 😁 Love the drum track part, that seriously kicks ass!🤘More of that, please!
As soon as you strated playing I heard the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath tone. Excellent!
Thanks, glad to hear that!
Wow, surprisingly tight low end!
The drums sounded great with the guitar playing. Well done!
Thanks Ron! Really good to hear that!
Sounds awesome!!! Totally nails the old Sabbath tones
Thanks, glad you like it! Cheers!
Sounds great! As someone else mentioned, Tony Iommi's tone has a mix of clarity and distorted sounds that you seem to have nailed with this rig.
PERFECT TIMING! As I have been on a Black sabbath kick looking to both Geezer, and Tony's rigs, while experimenting with my own sound recording. Would love to see you do the same with Geezer's original rig. I think Tony and Geezer shared amps in the beginning? Great work once again.
Thanks! Yeah there are some great pictures of them in the studio for the Paranoid recordings. I am huge fan of Geezers playing. Cheers!
The EMG Geezer Butler signature p bass pickup is amazing. I’ve got it in a p bass of mine and it doesn’t just sound good for Sabbath and heavy stuff, it’s just a great p bass pickup. Would love to play that bass through one of the 100 watt Supergroup reissues and see how it sounds.
that's awesome! @@bucknasty69
That'd be really cool!
Supercool jam!
Thanks, glad you like it!
The size of the Laney cab look HUGE .
Johan.....Next Level
Cheers Marty!
Never heard anything closer to Tony Iommi's sound that this. All them youtubers always has too much lowend and non existent treble bite. This is awesome, full meaty sound with that angry topend bite. Well done Johan.
Thanks! Makes my day to hear it!
Gotta go in the bass input and get some single coils. I noticed i got closer to a sabbath tone with my single coil strat than i did my humbucker sg
Sounds very good.
Thanks!
Great show John about a great subject but I’m gonna throw my two cents in and say that the speaker is bright for what I think was a part of Tony sound also Tony used hotter humbckers which also influences the sound… Anyway, keep on rockin
Hi, Johan! Many time I was waiting for your video! Laney are very nice! I was getting one, but for now I am still a Marshall man. See you!
Siegfried
Hi Siegfried! Glad to see you here! Sorry for the long hiatus. See you! Johan
I don't know where do you get the Greenback thing, there's no mention of it anywhere.
In the early days he used a Laney Supergroup with treble boost into a Laney Cab with Audiom speakers.
Later in the 80's he used many different amps, most notably Marshalls and from what i could gather Marshall's choice of speaker was the T75 at that time, which i can totally hear on later albums like Headless Cross and Tyr.
His latest gear include one of his signature amps like the GH100Ti and recently the TI100 and his website states that his cabinets are loaded with G12H30 Creambacks and his monitor speakers with T75's.
To my knowledge, he had the bass turned off , every other knob dimed on the amp, and removed the tone pot in the guitar.
SYMTOM OF THE UNIVERSE can only sound as good if Tony Iommi played it. This is a fantastic rig and demonstration.
Thanks, great to hear that!
Laney is so underrated. Many years ago, I went to HiPro Music in Malmö to buy a Marshall combo. The clerk insisted that I should try a Laney also. I wanted a Marshall. But he continued insisting so in the end I brought it into the testing room together with the Marshall. I went home with the Laney. Still one of the best combos I have ever tried.
What amp is it?
@@elyasse1323 LC-30
Great stuff!!
Thanks Kenny!
Definitely need way more preamp overdrive or fuzz. This is like the band Free's guitar sound or Ram Jam's. I read that back in the 70's before the wide selection of pedal effects Tony Iommi used something called a Range Master Treble Booster
Johan mentioned that in the intro. He used a different treble booster because he didn't have a rangemaster.
@@blakestone75 I can't here it, sounds straight through the amp to me
It actually has more fain than Iommi’s usual tone but it’s less fuzzy
Strongly disagree. People often overestimate how distorted the classic guitar tones actually were. They are almost all less distorted than one thinks they are hearing on the original recording. This includes Van Halen I, BTW. These tones were then altered during production.
Hey Johan. what is your every day go to Amp?
Great tone 👍
Thanks RC!
Sabbath for sure! And also some Foo Fighters Everlong!
Glad you noticed. I love Foo Fighters
I have one of these and love it! And not to knock its plexi equivalent it has tone controls... that actually do something 😂
Yeah indeed, really powerful EQ
The Supergroup is very similar to a Marshall Super Bass. The tone stack after a cathode follower is the same.
Sounds good! Now do Geezer and you'll be unstoppable Johan!
Thanks! Yeah I love Geezers playing and tone
Sounds very heavy to me definitely gets that classic sabbath tone I think the kipp was darker and heavier. 🤘
Thanks glad to hear it!
Glad im not the only one that has involuntary hyper leg spasms that may or may not be with the beat while playing.
Hahaha! My legs are more like a dogs tail
Love the tweaks you have to make to not have copyright trouble….lol
4:32 Symptom of the Underverse :D
Du är grym Johan, tack👍
Tackar! Gott att höra!
Super fun dude
The Segeborn brothers are at it again.
😁 Cheers
Will try to be online for the first time ever:)
Cheers Andrey!
Cool stuff. Your bald-headed drummer is pretty good.
Thanks 😂
Your almost there
Cheers Darrell!
Also there is a Toni Iomi pickup that is more high output .
Holy sweet f@ck that sounds amazing.
Thanks Tony! Glad to hear it
Love that chords at 5:42
Thanks! Yeah it’s the Everlong chord
Now that you’ve done the Laney rig….
Try his mighty rig from the early ‘80’s…!
You’ll need the rare Mesa Colliseum 300 watt boogie head…
For me, his ultimate tone…the LE album absolutely crushes anything before or since…
DUDE! Johan, when are you going to release some original music?? I want to hear more!
Thanks man! Soon I hope!
One element of Black Sabbath tone seems to be hitting the analog tape hard.
I head a lot of tape compression and saturation on their recordings.
the g12h 30 watt 75hz is my favorite i have the heritage reissue of this speaker in a 2x12 openback cabinet it nails all 70s hardrock tone better than the regular g12m 75hz this g12h 75hz speaker with a plexi style amp is killer
The standard T1217 G12H30 75Hz is a killer speaker too but quite different from this one. It’s the brightest punchiest greenback of all.
@@JohanSegeborn i see that one in your cabinet has some bigger dustcap is this a version with smoother highs than the regular g12h 30 watt 75hz
@@JohanSegeborn the brightest version of this speaker is the g12h 70th anivers
that sounds great! Very Sabbath-like 🤘I wonder how much was your special speakers and how much was the treble booster
Thanks! The Sabbath quality comes from the speakers but the Treble booster added the cut and balls to it
Fucking great guitar tone man!
Thanks man! Glad you like it!
i like a lot this sound :)
Thanks Terry! Glad to hear it
I'm always happy when it's time to "sheck it out" 😁
Thanks Blackie! Glad to hear it
You made yourself a nice playground :)
Have you ever tried the Acoustic research amps? My friend had one in the 70s, all I remember was it had a EQ and it got a pretty good Black Sabbath sound. It was surprising for solid state
No not for guitar, but I’d like to
More of a first two albums guy, myself, but excellent job nonetheless ^^
Thanks!
Maybe the playing was "happier" than Sabbath but it certainly sounded good.
Thanks! Glad to hear that!
Do you have a standard gauge of strings or lighter like Iommi?
Have you ever had the chance to try a Laney AOR series? Im interested in how that would compare.
No not yet, but I hear they’re a killer alternative to JCM800
Not gonna lie the tones are rock n roll but they sound a little brighter and a little higher gain than the Sabbath I remember.
do you have or know anyone with a fender quad reverb with the utah speakers in the cab? do you by any chanve have a utah speaker laying around? the red label one's that I think were only in the quad reverb. can you sell it to me? p.s. is that your wife making fika in the kithcen?
Ok good start
I think it sounded pretty good ,back when sabbath was playing he had that real fuzzy tone but not enough that it killed his notes like he controled it well ,today no matter how much we try we wont get those tones ,today they have so many amps, pedals and effects its no match , back then most amps sounded great just plug your guitar in and your off to the races so to speak , we will never produce amps like again even if 1 copacitor is 1/2 microfered off it will change the tone copacitors back then i think were wound with paper now days they are plastic and also the tone would probably change with time as well ,but yeah it sounded pretty good to me , also back then pickups were wound different as well which in turn effects tone same as capacitor 1/2 wound off tone change its just impossible to reproduce any sound to what it was ,but we will always have fun trying everything till we wonder on what works for us , i wish they had amps like they did in the past ,cool video take care and god bless
Thanks! The output transformers and speakers are the hardest thing to recreate
@@JohanSegeborn oh yes they are for sure nothing is made like it once was ,but still we will go on trying ,but again you sounded awesome to me, i wish i could get ahold of some of the Gear you have aquired i have a couple of marshalls 1 100 watt one the other a 50 watt one has a 2x12 cab the other 4x12 and i have a few blackstar amps and a couple of boss katana amps, guitars i have 2 charvel San dimas guitars and 3 harley bentons and 3 wolfgang standards i have a boss gt 1 effects and a boss me 80 effects ,nothing really major just stuff that gets me by i suppose ,im on disabilty cause i had hit by a forklift at work a few yrs ago ,about all i do now is sit in the bedroom and play all the time my wife gets upset sometimes but i guess she doesnt understand guitar players sometimes ill get up at 3 or 4 un the morning and play seems like when that happens the best stuff comes out of me, oh well sorry for my life story ..take it easy and stay safe god bless
Good got a laney. They breakup q
Quicker than any other amplifier
Turn it all up all the way
Fierce!
Thanks 😁
But he played on a Guitar with P90’s? Right? Why use humbuckers?
Yeah he did. The answer to your question is access
On the first album he was using Gibson P90s but he started using super high-output John Birch P90s soon thereafter. Normal P90s would sound too thin so unless you can find high-gain P90s (there aren't very many), a humbucker is the next closest thing.