The Pete and the trailer have only 5 axles meaning the entire tractor-trailer is plated for a 80.000 lbs max GVW if you consider that a tractor is about 18.000 lbs and an steel drop deck trailer about 11.000 lbs, it leaves a Net weight of 51.000 lbs or 23 tons wich is probably the weight of that armored vehicle. Now the Tesla truck is also plated for 80.000 lbs GVW meaning it might or might not have the same weight in the trailer.However there's what can be another Pete or KW (hard to see on my phone screen) coming fast in the middle lane behind everybody, that guy seems to have a lots of torque.
EV private cars may not be good (I hate them actually), but EV trucks should be fine, it's heavy anyways so it wont hurt adding a larger battery, and truckers are required to take a break every few hours (in US and EU), they can just use that break to charge.
@@bokebryant3985 The larger the vehicle, the less practical they become. Once the curb weight reaches 4000lbs, any advantage is lost. So much of the energy is wasted hauling the battery is only one reason. Electricity using so much fossil fuels to produce is another. All electric vehicles are a fantasy and are wastefull. Billions of dollars have been lost pushing them on the public and the EV manufacturers are shutting them down due to high cost of production and loosing money on the sales. Save the EV for scooters and golf carts where it is somewhat reasonable.
Why would the payload of the Tesla matter? It's not a diesel or a combustion engine so It would look exactly the same whether it was hauling 40lbs or 40 tons, the battery would just deplete faster if it was the latter.
Why is everyone arguing about current state of the tech and whether it’s currently economically viable rather than just encouraging investment in continued improvements? I’d rather it take eight years than sixteen years for EVs to be the cheapest option for consumers.
My biggest question would still be how many miles you can put on the Tesla over its lifespan. It’s not uncommon for the diesels to have 1 million miles on them
@@stevencorrea8032 Nobody said electric motors can't handle the load. It's the heat generated, the limited range, and the heavier weight that are the problem. And those things you cannot get around. Even if an electric truck can get up a hill faster, the diesel will still run circles around it, getting there 20% faster, hauling 44% more freight. I've run the numbers.
Electric motors have way more torque than diesel ones so this type of thing should be no surprise at all. It is such a pity that we do not see the effect of this driving on remaining range. Chances are that the power consumption rate during this hill climb would have roughly tripled.
but going downhill will recapture most of the power back because of regenerative braking. compared to conventional trucks wasting the downhill energy as heat
The diesel actually has significantly more torque than the Tesla. The tesla only has 1000 ft-pd. What you're seeing is really the power difference it has double the power of the Diesel
@sav7568 You're correct because: Physics, right?! But with more research we could develop batteries equivalent enough to deal with power consumption and range. With trucks we can deal with that now with replaceable batteries. This kind of 'replace-and-go' already exists in some chinese ev cars already (5 min- fully automated station), but I think it just makes more sense to truck driving.
@@mer6287Most of a vehicle's kinetic energy is lost due to the tire's friction with the road surface. On average most regenerative braking systems have 15-30% of energy recovery and in some situations 50% (like downhill engine braking of semi trucks). But I think still a very good tech to make rotor and brake pads last longer
The Tesla truck driver was interviewed 20 minutes later when he had to stop for a 8 hour charge. The other trucks couldn’t be reached for contact as they were already in Kansas by the time the Tesla truck was done charging.
@@mikeb8342 At warehouses. Google for how Pepsico drove one of these trucks over 1,000 miles in a single day. *enormous* fuel savings. Like $20,000 per year.
@@Official_Malaysian_Car_Driving It's a lighter vehicle than a tank with steel bogie wheels and treads. It is an 8 wheeled (rubber tires) armored vehicle. Possibly an armored personnel carrier that would weigh about 20 to 25 tons. 0:08
No smoke from either TD truck which suggests they are just cruising. No noise from from the TD trucks which is odd, as anyone who has heard a big capacity TD climbing knows you hear them before you see them
You need to do your research. There are plenty of other videos on RUclips. Here is what you are missing. The Tesla has a 500 mile range. Also uses regenerative braking to recharge going downhill. Finally, it takes 45 minutes to charge 0% to 75-80%
@sylvainguinepain5624 500 mile range? That's cute, I'm sure that's in ideal conditions. Diesels have around 1200 miles of "range" and can fuel up in about 15 minutes. What are those chargers powered by? Is that a diesel generator I see next to those chargers?
@@mudhead8415 Here, educate yourself. Pepsi runs their truck with full beverage loads. 45 minutes every 500 miles for charging is perfectly adequate. you can grad a bite while it's charging. And no one drives 1,200 miles per day so it's pointless. And the electricity is solar powered on the roof of the building. ruclips.net/video/2-rzCARH1h8/видео.html
@@mudhead8415 The reality is, that the chargers and the power grid are mostly powered by coal or natural gas in the U.S.. Plus some nuclear, hydro, and some wind & solar. It's going to take a long time before they can really claim that EVs are green, compared to ICE vehicles.
Electric vehicles are great IN THEORY. Burning less fossil fuels is definitely necessary to save our planet. Therefore, why doesn't the government get serious? Make electric charging free, as well as free trips on buses and trains. Increase the taxes on carbon so that 2 or 3 times as many people would choose electric, or at least hybrid. A carbon tax would also go a long way to generating electricity via nuclear or via renewables. Right now, unless you charge your EV at home, you'll spend as much on electric fuel as you will with a gas powered car. So why would I choose an EV, if electricity costs as much as gas and it's a lot less convenient to fill up? (Maybe it has something to do with our Congressmen being bought and paid for by the Big Oil.)
As a truck driver I know the difference between pulling an empty trailer up a mountain opposed to a loaded one. BIG DIFFERENCE! I assume the EV wasn’t loaded.
@@smerchly ~8 pounds per gallon, many Petes carry 200 gallons. 1600 pounds for fuel, slightly under one ton. Dual 120's is ~1920 pounds. Still under a ton. Batteries are VERY heavy. "Empty" dual 120's fuels in less than 10 minutes and has about 1500 miles of range full. Something a lot of people leave out is that diesel has 13% more energy versus the same amount of gasoline AND is 27 times more energy dense than any lithium-ion battery tech.
It's an EV, it doesn't matter if it's empty or full as weight only affects the range. Tell me you know nothing about the subject without telling me you know nothing about the subject.
Empty Tesla Semi passes two fully loaded Semis that are cruising because they don’t need to go fast. The diesel Semis will continue to go for hundreds of miles while the Tesla will need to recharge in 50 miles for six hours
I dont wanna say much but both the first diesel truck and tesla truck have closed trailers. Maybe be a little less of a hypocrit when you just say stuff to prove your maybe wrong statement.
I would bet the tesla has little or no weight in the trailer based on the way it moves in the lane. If you have ever drove a semi you would know what I talking about.@@guillaumearnould7836
The Tesla does about 500 miles, and takes 30 min to charge at a Tesla fast charger. Perfectly adequate for instate deliveries. What diesel driver does 1200 miles without a break?
Tesla semi is empty and your not seeing the fact that these garbage trucks need to stop every couple hundred miles to recharge, nor are you seeing them randomly catch fire which, like Tesla cars, is a huge concern.
As an old driver myself, I don't know if I could get used to driving in the middle. It looks so awkward, but maybe over time. Sure impressive going up the steep grade though.
The problem is on a two land road (one lane each direction) where you have to pass another semi. In order to see if the road is clear for passing you need to pull out enough to see pass the semi in front of you. There's a good reason for having the steering wheel on the left side for right lane driving countries. For cars you can see over them, so not a problem, but it is with higher vehicles.
Electric vehicles (with the exception of kids toys and scooters) have 1/5 the chance of catching fire compared to engines that convert bomb fluid into energy via COMBUSTION. You listen to what the news wants you to hear. Despite most of the media being liberal, doesn't stop them from trying to make a story out of a few anecdotal cases for viewership.
The first passed truck was hauling Walmart merchandise. The next passed truck was hauling a military vehicle. The Tesla truck was hauling its own battery.
Be careful, someone might take you up on that bet! (but not me, because I was raised to believe that gambling is a vice.) There is a Tesla Model S in Southern California that is used for ride sharing that has over 1 million miles on its original battery, so this is possible. The Semi has newer battery technology, so it could last even longer.
@@carlosb1 The batteries last a *long* time if you keep them between 20 and 80%. Most of the horror stories you hear were either charged to 100% and then run to below 10% more than once every day (Uber driver was the worst example) or they were driven in high water. Still the road debris problem with Hyundai should have been handled by Hyundai. They were pennywise and dollar foolish on that one. Refusing to spend $20,000 giving him a new battery is going to cost them at least a million in profits on sales.
I seen same video before, and they described it as a fully loaded tesla. Fully loaded is a fluid term as a full load of potato chips but still weigh less than the maximum weight you can load of potatoes in that same 53 ft box. Potatoes have a loaded density approximately 8 times that a potato chips.
Weight and things like inclines can drastically reduce the range though. Tesla semi trucks would not be good for long hauls. However, they could work really well between regularly traveled fixed points that are well within its range.
@@74_pelicans The world tried that system already in the first half of the 20th century, and yet large haulage trucks were developed and out competed the railways. If the railways could move freight faster, cheaper and safer they would not have lost the market they already dominated to trucking.
You don't think they thought of that? These things run at very high voltage so that the amperage can be lower and the wiring can handle it. But yeah, if they were dumb enough to make this thing 12v...
I’ve driven for LTL carriers here in Cali for 37years in January. Its been 21 years here in the Sac/San Joaquin Valley last October. I’ve seen these Tesla Tractor/Trailers on the Hook going through the Lathrop, French Camp, Stockton area on Hwy 5 at least twice a week ever since they were introduced into transportation. They’re not ready for the riggers of the road! Take it from an Old Pro. Don’t waste your money on them.
what hp diesel engines in those semis? Were they going full blast (doesn't look like it)? How many tons were they all pulling? What about the other diesel racing up from behind, gaining on the Tesla?
Torque and power are the strengths of electric motors. The question is how much energy capacity does the batteries have versus the diesel fuel... I would be more impressed if the battery pack could be forklift swapped while the trailer was still hitched up.
Electric motors don't have just more torque, just because they are electric. MAN Trucks range from 1875 to 2400 Nm of torque, the semi has at best 2100 Nm (when fully charged). It depends on the engine (obviously)
@@mrpeace3860 Electric motors have notably more power and torque for a given size and weight than any ICE engine and the torque is a constant value almost immediately, basically a flat power curve. The whole point is that an electric semi exhibiting a lot of torque and power is not remarkable and the issue with EV's are the storage and or delivery of energy to the vehicles. Of course, countries such as Germany are already installing overhead wires over the major trunk roads so that EV semi's can simply extend a pantograph to not only be powered directly off the grid but top off their battery storage. There is obviously infrastructure investments required but that was also the case with ICE vehicles as someone had to build the roads to begin with. There are issues with EV's but they can be addressed. Besides, the US 2027 ban against the sale of new ICE vehicles, 2035 in Canada and 2040 in many European countries are all about light vehicles not the heavy vehicles such as semi's. We're likely to see more hybrid semi's in the near future than battery EV semi's, especially in North America.
@@mrpeace3860you missed his point, he meant that an electric motor of any kind has more 'torque per unit of its weight'( or power per unit of its weight) compared any kind of diesel IC engine,,, but electric motors run on electricity, and the energy storage density (volumetric as well as by weight) of a battery is very less compared to that of diesel fuel tank,,, That's why electric trains with OHE system are very superior form of goods transportation economically as well as environmentally.
The Peps trailer is loaded. Pepsi uses axle lifts on the front axle and lifts the front axle when the trailer isn't loaded. The front axle on this trailer is down. Therefore the trailer is loaded.
@@Johnny24rs The front axle is always down. Of course you can let down the rear axle if the trailer is loaded. That is not the point. The point is that both axles were down and thus the Tesla semi is pulling a loaded trailer.
Did anyone supply info on the weight of the batteries? I've read that they weigh about 8,000 lbs. That decreases the trucks payload substantially, the cost of that vehicle, the cost of the batteries when replacement is needed compared to the cost of a new Diesel engine? The range & full charge time on the EV compared to the fill up time for that diesel ..... Especially after that hill. Sorry, but what I see is an ad that addresses nothing regarding the increased cost of shipping via battery operated truck in an economy that is dealing with inflation that is the highest in 40 yrs.
That's because this isn't an add, its someone's random recording, tesla answered your question in their initial reveal event and delivery event. A lot of people don't understand how this truck isn't meant to replace the diesel trucks used today, its meant to get the ball rolling in EV truck adoption so that infastructure is built to handle an actual electric truck fleet. Using a battery truck makes deliveries take 20% linger but saves 300% on fuel, its meant to save a lot of money by having a very low operating cost, there is also facts like it using regen braking to increase range, so after the semi climbs a hill it can switch its motors into generators when going downhill and recharge its battery with some of the energy it use to climb up.
It's unfortunate there is no weight comparison to assess the Tesla towed trailer. The Pete's load is perhaps 50,000 pounds. The information I found is several years old mentioning the Tesla tractor trailer was limited to a 150 mile radius when pulling heavier loads doing day runs.
Mostly EV semi are short to medium distance and last minute parcels. Still tho a very good advancement of freight transportation and EV can help reduce emissions greatly, according to EPA report from 1995-2015, the second most CO2 emissions are industrial transportation.
@@analienfromouterspaceand what's the point of reducing CO² emissions? So we can kill off all advanced plant life (which kills all mammals, etc)? And what kind of emissions (and child slave labor) are required to produce those toxic, highly combustible batteries? SMDH
Well this is all neat and stuff, what you aren't seeing is that the Tesla semi had to go straight to a super-charger after this impressive showing and it sat there plugged in for several hours recharging while the Diesel semis kept on driving until their 1,200mi range required them to fill up. That's what you don't see.
Actually, the Tesla recharged on the way back down the mountain (it has regenerative braking) while the other drivers worried about overheating their brakes. Then when it did need a charge, it needed about 50 minutes to add 400 miles of range. It was ready to go after lunch and a bathroom break. That's what you refuse to see.
@@mwaldykeI think most trucks have jake brakes, a mechanism that keeps the intake valve closed to use the compression of the engine to slow the rpms, the drivetrain and thus the whole truck down (something like that I’m not a truck expert),so they don’t have to worry about overheating any of their service brakes on the downhill. It’s like the Tesla’s regenerative braking as you said,only it’s been in use for decades. Fascinating technology if you want my opinion!
@@mwaldykePlease explain me the math behind these 400miles in 50 minutes charging. The semi has 900kwh battery pack and the supercharger max output is 250kwh, which works only that fast from 20-80%. I would like to know your magic math trick, please enlighten me. If I take your number I get 50 minutes of 250kwh = 208kw. And 900kwh / 500 miles means one mile cost 1.8 kwh on energy. 208kwh charged / 1.8 kWh per miles added 115miles within 50 minutes. So 1/4 of what you claim here.
Recently had a new electric,big cement truck go up in flames in Queensland,Australia. No chance putting the battery out,was like a big Oxy Acetylene torch having a dummy spit.
How far can it go in comparison between fuel stops? How long does it take to charge? How many times more expensive is it? How much more would you have to pay a driver for all those additional hours/days? How many charging stations can one reasonably find when passing through states like North Dakota, Nevada, etc.?
Only California has the charging stations to charge them in under a hour, they have 500 miles at full load over mountain pass, using residential prices it cost $140 of electricity for 500 miles.
Note the relative ground clearance in the frame at 0:14. One can tell which is a truck and which is more of a van (pro tip: it matters where it snows).
Y’all tesla people saying, OHhHh iTs goEs so mUcH fasTEr tHeN oThER seMiS. Guess what? Semis are made to transport heavy stuff efficiently and not to race your local civic. Currently, deisel semis are just currently the better option. I am sure though, in a few decades there might be something that wont loose 1/2 of its range if it is chilly.
Is nobody gonna talk about that LITERAL TANK being transported behind a semi with no military escort/pilot vehicle like it’s private property😂 Edit:It’s an APC
Why would there need to be a military escort or pilot vehicle for that? I have yet to see one for any of the military loads I've seen on the highway. I mean, it's just an armored vehicle. It's not a nuke.
@@Theweouthereforrealclub- The DoD contracts civilian transport. The Navy contracted civilian shipping for the jet engines, electronics, and other components that could not be serviced except at depot level, when I was in.
He probably lost the signal control menu, you can see the driver overly distracted looking at the screens while the signals erroneously indicate he is moving in the opposite direction to what he actually is. The screens should be off while driving!
Driven like a true cager. Can't stay in his lane, driving nearly a mile in the middle lane with his left blinker on, nearly sideswipes 2 vehicles in the process of finding the blinkers. From what information I have found, the truck is hauling 65k total, tractor is 14k so load is ~50k. The maximum load hauled I believe that was tested was 85k Edison Motors have built an amazing prototype that has hauled 101k.
@@rotten9711 If that's true, then they have to show that. If they don't show it.... it's not there. A real test would not only show the cargo but would have an equal weight cargo in each of the vans going up the hill....and that cargo weight should be the max gross permitted for that trailer.
That "tank" (not a tank) is like 15 tons so.. Get educated.. Diesel power? Is that why they use electric motors to move TRAINS and massive dump trucks?.. lmao
Funny, in Tesla's official range timelapse video, it never broke 60 mph, and it was getting passed by everything, including other diesel semis. But that one was with a full load, not empty. If it tried doing this with a full load, it would need to be recharged every 20 miles for an hour.
The one in Melbourne Australia, sure not a Tesla but an electric cement hauler, didn’t last 20 miles after its uphill climb, just got hot and exploded after coasting to a stop.
What tesla doesn't say is that the trailer is empty, you can tell by the way it sways. An empty trailer diesel truck would pass another diesel, not mention the diesel truck would keep going while the lame electric truck has to stop at 500 miles and wait an hour to charge 😄😄
its only 30m to charge and its required by law to rest for 30m and its not empty its full if 2 of the motors are gone its still faster than a gas truck
trailer is fully loaded and they are running them like that purposely on donner pass to test the trucks to the extremes to uncover any flaws or issues. Tesla itself had a press conference with one pulling a flatbed with concrete dividers putting the truck at 82,000 lbs doing the same exact thing on the same exact road.
After 2 million certified safe miles pushing a diesel I am definitely interested in driving this phone although they do make some valid points about not being able to lean out the window to back
With camera assistance many test drivers have minimal complaints about visibility, its also safer to be in the middle when going against traffic incase of impact.
Not about speed when pulling heavy loads, it's about longevity, it's about how long will it take to refuel and how many miles I can go on that full tank as opposed to a full charge.
@@oshochso batteries charge fastest from 15-80%, then is slowed down to prevent damage, this enables the truck to add 350 miles of range in about 30 minutes at a 2 megawatt 1000V charger built specifically for the tesla semitruck.
About 10 years ago, my partner & myself (both from UK) were visiting family in LA. We did a bus trip across to Vegas for the fun of it. It was all 2 lanes each way, with a lot of trucks, mostly US brands. Every hill we came to, the US made trucks stayed in the right hand lane & laboured up the hill, regardless of payload. Every truck overtaking, regardless of payload, was a Volvo!
This isn't scientific footage, but the tesla semi was built for smashing Hill climbs, it has around 3x the average power of a class 8 semitruck, so unless all are at full load it doesn't tell you much.
@Tbird761 No one of these vehicles will be sidelined by design. The other will still be traveling down the road. The classic tortoise and the hare story based on reality. Until the magic battery and renewable technologies are invented, this Tesla semi is just a plaything grounded in folly.
the other diesel drivers are just chilling and driving, not because their truck is less powerful, meanwhile the tesla driver lost 10 hr in charging that is why he is hurrying.
Very impressive that empty Tesla truck overtaking a truck carrying a 50 ton tank!
My thoughts exactly. 🤣
The Pete and the trailer have only 5 axles meaning the entire tractor-trailer is plated for a 80.000 lbs max GVW if you consider that a tractor is about 18.000 lbs and an steel drop deck trailer about 11.000 lbs, it leaves a Net weight of 51.000 lbs or 23 tons wich is probably the weight of that armored vehicle. Now the Tesla truck is also plated for 80.000 lbs GVW meaning it might or might not have the same weight in the trailer.However there's what can be another Pete or KW (hard to see on my phone screen) coming fast in the middle lane behind everybody, that guy seems to have a lots of torque.
Prove it
Hope there’s a charging station at the top of that hill 😂
It's not a tank it's an infantry fighting vehicle
Being a long term EV owner I know his range while going up that hill is plummeting faster than a rock in a vacuum.
I was just about to say another 40 miles and he will be getting passed by all the diesel trucks cuz he ran out of juice
@@robertscott2196it can get 500 miles over a mountain pass because it can charge when going downhill.
EV private cars may not be good (I hate them actually), but EV trucks should be fine, it's heavy anyways so it wont hurt adding a larger battery, and truckers are required to take a break every few hours (in US and EU), they can just use that break to charge.
@@bokebryant3985What does „heavy“ mean in numbers? More weight means less available weight to haul. So it does matter.
@@bokebryant3985 The larger the vehicle, the less practical they become. Once the curb weight reaches 4000lbs, any advantage is lost.
So much of the energy is wasted hauling the battery is only one reason. Electricity using so much fossil fuels to produce is another.
All electric vehicles are a fantasy and are wastefull. Billions of dollars have been lost pushing them on the public and the EV manufacturers are shutting them down due to high cost of production and loosing money on the sales.
Save the EV for scooters and golf carts where it is somewhat reasonable.
$1000 says the tesla trailer is empty
Nobody considers the weight. The other diesel was carrying a tank 😂
Winner winner lobster dinner
You don't have a $1000 😂
@PyroShields if he doesn't have $1,000, he should borrow the money cause that is a winner 😉🤑
@@meyou9176 You do realize Pepsi is using Tesla's Semi trucks right?
The Tesle looks like a dork mobile; the Pete looks awesome.
Real trucks for real men not Tesla trucks
This doesn't tell us a lot without knowing the payloads of each truck. Or the grade.
Why would the payload of the Tesla matter? It's not a diesel or a combustion engine so It would look exactly the same whether it was hauling 40lbs or 40 tons, the battery would just deplete faster if it was the latter.
@krashd lol what? No, it absolutely would matter. Electric motors have their limit too.
Lol, the other semi was literally pulling a tank 😂
Tank hauling, not just for Ukrainian tractors!
Technically a Stryker but that's 25 tons. The Tesla might just be loaded with junk food
@@shaider1982 that's a lav
"Literally"🤔
@@shaider1982lav which is like 13t
500 miles later, those diesel powered truck are still chugging along, as the Tesla nurses at it's charging station (if it managed to locate one).
Awwwww, it hurts, right?
You must be from somewhere where power-grids are a touchy subject X^D
You realize truck drivers have required rest, right?
30 minutes charging and back to 70%. Not too terrible. Gotta eat sometime.
Why is everyone arguing about current state of the tech and whether it’s currently economically viable rather than just encouraging investment in continued improvements? I’d rather it take eight years than sixteen years for EVs to be the cheapest option for consumers.
That driver sure made the cab look small....lol.
That’s what the Tesla was really towing😂
It is small. Most of what you see is an aerodynamic fairing
@@setchell20 lmaoo
He's in a hurry to find somewhere to recharge 😂
Like being in a hurry to get to a gas station you got to use all your gas slow down
But on the other hand and it's easy to get a gallon of gasoline than a gallon of electron
Lol
@@stevencorrea8032no not really . Gas tanks exist for a reason
@@JonySmith-bb4gx batteries exist for a reason
My biggest question would still be how many miles you can put on the Tesla over its lifespan. It’s not uncommon for the diesels to have 1 million miles on them
4 million 😊
As long as the batteries go without shitting out.
Mileage or no, a battery replacement will cost $100k-$200k easy. You can buy two diesel road tractors for that.
They're literally Motors that been in operating in industry for 100 years
@@stevencorrea8032 Nobody said electric motors can't handle the load. It's the heat generated, the limited range, and the heavier weight that are the problem. And those things you cannot get around. Even if an electric truck can get up a hill faster, the diesel will still run circles around it, getting there 20% faster, hauling 44% more freight. I've run the numbers.
Electric motors have way more torque than diesel ones so this type of thing should be no surprise at all. It is such a pity that we do not see the effect of this driving on remaining range. Chances are that the power consumption rate during this hill climb would have roughly tripled.
but going downhill will recapture most of the power back because of regenerative braking. compared to conventional trucks wasting the downhill energy as heat
The diesel actually has significantly more torque than the Tesla. The tesla only has 1000 ft-pd. What you're seeing is really the power difference it has double the power of the Diesel
@sav7568 You're correct because: Physics, right?! But with more research we could develop batteries equivalent enough to deal with power consumption and range. With trucks we can deal with that now with replaceable batteries. This kind of 'replace-and-go' already exists in some chinese ev cars already (5 min- fully automated station), but I think it just makes more sense to truck driving.
@@mer6287Most of a vehicle's kinetic energy is lost due to the tire's friction with the road surface. On average most regenerative braking systems have 15-30% of energy recovery and in some situations 50% (like downhill engine braking of semi trucks). But I think still a very good tech to make rotor and brake pads last longer
@@mer6287 no, thats not even close to true. Regen is a fraction of the power back.
The Tesla truck driver was interviewed 20 minutes later when he had to stop for a 8 hour charge. The other trucks couldn’t be reached for contact as they were already in Kansas by the time the Tesla truck was done charging.
Lol they charge in 30 minutes with teslas truck specific chargers.
.... which can be found where?
@@mikeb8342 at the pesi Co facilities in California.
@@mikeb8342 At warehouses. Google for how Pepsico drove one of these trucks over 1,000 miles in a single day. *enormous* fuel savings. Like $20,000 per year.
@@mikeb8342 500 miles back the way they came lol
A peterbilt 379 hauling a tank uphill vs a 1000+hp truck with empty trailer. Very fair
Ya. That was my question. Are the loads equal in weight? If not, then this is totally meaningless.
Fr, that semi be making money, the Tesla be loosing it, cuz ain’t no cargo.
Tanks weight like atleast 50tons
@@Official_Malaysian_Car_Driving It's a lighter vehicle than a tank with steel bogie wheels and treads. It is an 8 wheeled (rubber tires) armored vehicle. Possibly an armored personnel carrier that would weigh about 20 to 25 tons. 0:08
That is not a tank
Just ignore the diesel truck coming up in the background in the middle lane at the same speed.
Bro you raced a dude hauling a fkn TANK. Good job
No smoke from either TD truck which suggests they are just cruising.
No noise from from the TD trucks which is odd, as anyone who has heard a big capacity TD climbing knows you hear them before you see them
cope
Tesla also crusing
nope@@A_saucy
@@silvy7394how about you stop having $3X with kids
@@Kevin-l9y1u Generic insult. Try harder NPC.
Doesnt matter, the gas one will still reach the destination first because electric one will need to charge several times.
Depends entirely on how far the destination is
The Tesla semi is not made for long hauls
Just a reminder..... I don't think they make gas big trucks (at least not in my 54 year lifetime). They burn diesel.... big difference.
@@mikeb8342 touché!
I don't recommend putting "gas" in a diesel tractor. If at any time you are unsure what to say, call it FUEL.
A few miles down the road the diesel trucks pass the Tesla while it was having to recharge for several hours. 😂
You need to do your research. There are plenty of other videos on RUclips. Here is what you are missing. The Tesla has a 500 mile range. Also uses regenerative braking to recharge going downhill. Finally, it takes 45 minutes to charge 0% to 75-80%
@sylvainguinepain5624 500 mile range? That's cute, I'm sure that's in ideal conditions. Diesels have around 1200 miles of "range" and can fuel up in about 15 minutes. What are those chargers powered by? Is that a diesel generator I see next to those chargers?
@@mudhead8415 Here, educate yourself. Pepsi runs their truck with full beverage loads. 45 minutes every 500 miles for charging is perfectly adequate. you can grad a bite while it's charging. And no one drives 1,200 miles per day so it's pointless. And the electricity is solar powered on the roof of the building.
ruclips.net/video/2-rzCARH1h8/видео.html
@@mudhead8415 The reality is, that the chargers and the power grid are mostly powered by coal or natural gas in the U.S.. Plus some nuclear, hydro, and some wind & solar. It's going to take a long time before they can really claim that EVs are green, compared to ICE vehicles.
Electric vehicles are great IN THEORY. Burning less fossil fuels is definitely necessary to save our planet. Therefore, why doesn't the government get serious? Make electric charging free, as well as free trips on buses and trains. Increase the taxes on carbon so that 2 or 3 times as many people would choose electric, or at least hybrid. A carbon tax would also go a long way to generating electricity via nuclear or via renewables.
Right now, unless you charge your EV at home, you'll spend as much on electric fuel as you will with a gas powered car. So why would I choose an EV, if electricity costs as much as gas and it's a lot less convenient to fill up? (Maybe it has something to do with our Congressmen being bought and paid for by the Big Oil.)
What they don't show is the 4hour full charge it took to climb the hill and the next 4hr charge at the summit
As a truck driver I know the difference between pulling an empty trailer up a mountain opposed to a loaded one. BIG DIFFERENCE! I assume the EV wasn’t loaded.
I pass trucks like that when I’m running empty too.
How much does the EV battery weigh compared to the truck's fuel ?
@@smerchly ~8 pounds per gallon, many Petes carry 200 gallons. 1600 pounds for fuel, slightly under one ton. Dual 120's is ~1920 pounds. Still under a ton. Batteries are VERY heavy. "Empty" dual 120's fuels in less than 10 minutes and has about 1500 miles of range full. Something a lot of people leave out is that diesel has 13% more energy versus the same amount of gasoline AND is 27 times more energy dense than any lithium-ion battery tech.
Me too lol
It's an EV, it doesn't matter if it's empty or full as weight only affects the range.
Tell me you know nothing about the subject without telling me you know nothing about the subject.
@@krashd Tell us you don't understand trucks without telling us you don't understand trucks.
Empty Tesla Semi passes two fully loaded Semis that are cruising because they don’t need to go fast. The diesel Semis will continue to go for hundreds of miles while the Tesla will need to recharge in 50 miles for six hours
Diesel lasts one hundred years. Tesla 5 years heading to junkyard
I dont wanna say much but both the first diesel truck and tesla truck have closed trailers. Maybe be a little less of a hypocrit when you just say stuff to prove your maybe wrong statement.
exactly lmao. EVs are so impractical for long distances, and frankly electric trucks are just ridiculous
I would bet the tesla has little or no weight in the trailer based on the way it moves in the lane. If you have ever drove a semi you would know what I talking about.@@guillaumearnould7836
The Tesla does about 500 miles, and takes 30 min to charge at a Tesla fast charger. Perfectly adequate for instate deliveries. What diesel driver does 1200 miles without a break?
Where'd they find that driver? Cant even maintain a lane and then cuts the other semi off attempting to merge back into the right lane
He was all over the place!
He can't drive a hard pecker in a bucket of water
Tesla semi is empty and your not seeing the fact that these garbage trucks need to stop every couple hundred miles to recharge, nor are you seeing them randomly catch fire which, like Tesla cars, is a huge concern.
that window makes the driver look comically large. it's like watching a video game truck in real life.
As an old driver myself, I don't know if I could get used to driving in the middle. It looks so awkward, but maybe over time. Sure impressive going up the steep grade though.
The problem is on a two land road (one lane each direction) where you have to pass another semi. In order to see if the road is clear for passing you need to pull out enough to see pass the semi in front of you. There's a good reason for having the steering wheel on the left side for right lane driving countries. For cars you can see over them, so not a problem, but it is with higher vehicles.
@@my3dviews Only one model necessary for both europe and america with middle seat, smart design decision
The UK is the only European country that has the steering wheel on the right.
@@heth91 ireland also has steering wheel on the right.
@@my3dviewsI think you forgot about all the cameras
I would like to see that Tesla truck go up that hill pulling a tank.
How do you know there wasn't a tank in the trailer! (OK, it would not fit, but we don't know what, if anything, the Semi was hauling.)
Considering the other truck is doing that the Semi would have absolutely no problem.
I am pretty sure its going east on snoqualmie pass washington. If you wanted to check the grade
Check at 0:18 another diesel powered truck also overtakin with ease. @@scvcebc
It would look exactly the same, it has an electric motor.
Wow im quite suprised to see the tesla go up a hill without igniting a fire!
Yeah, me too…but just give it time, it’ll be up in flames at the next turn lol! 😄😆🤣😂🥳🎉
Electric vehicles (with the exception of kids toys and scooters) have 1/5 the chance of catching fire compared to engines that convert bomb fluid into energy via COMBUSTION. You listen to what the news wants you to hear. Despite most of the media being liberal, doesn't stop them from trying to make a story out of a few anecdotal cases for viewership.
Don't worry diesel trucks are 50 times more likely to catch fire
Let's see who travels 1,000 miles faster.
The first passed truck was hauling Walmart merchandise. The next passed truck was hauling a military vehicle. The Tesla truck was hauling its own battery.
That driver looked exceedingly nervous
I bet $1,000 Tesla Semi won't last 1million+ miles like those time tested Peterbilt
Be careful, someone might take you up on that bet! (but not me, because I was raised to believe that gambling is a vice.) There is a Tesla Model S in Southern California that is used for ride sharing that has over 1 million miles on its original battery, so this is possible. The Semi has newer battery technology, so it could last even longer.
Just imagine all the batteries that tesla would go through and multiply that by 70k Lol!
@@carlosb1 The batteries last a *long* time if you keep them between 20 and 80%.
Most of the horror stories you hear were either charged to 100% and then run to below 10% more than once every day (Uber driver was the worst example) or they were driven in high water.
Still the road debris problem with Hyundai should have been handled by Hyundai. They were pennywise and dollar foolish on that one. Refusing to spend $20,000 giving him a new battery is going to cost them at least a million in profits on sales.
Yeah firstcommenti found no hatingon electric vehicles i have both gas and electric@@scvcebc
Lets see a 3 hour version of this
What was the load weight compared to the others?
60 k in battery weight 20 k in actual cargo?
@@Herefornow-571 Guessing?
@@Herefornow-571yeah embarrassing how little Tesla "semi" can carry
looked to me like Tesla was having a hard time staying in his lane for some reason
Very true! Kinda scary. Someone should DUI test them
and also had the left turn signal on for a while, AND didn't turn on the right signal until he had already crossed into the right lane
self driving mode
lol ya probably what some people will say if they didn't watch the video of the guy steering@@zogloft7735
FNG
How much does the battery replacement cost?
The same cost as the the truck lol
@@earlem9771 Don't exaggerate. It's only 90% of the cost of the whole truck. 😂
considering Tesla do cover up to 8 years, or 200k miles, so if replaced within those limits is a free replacement.
😂😂😂 my Pete has over 1.3 million miles with one 25k inflame
@@danielmart7940 How many dollars spent on fuel? On oil changes, and other PM?
I seen same video before, and they described it as a fully loaded tesla. Fully loaded is a fluid term as a full load of potato chips but still weigh less than the maximum weight you can load of potatoes in that same 53 ft box. Potatoes have a loaded density approximately 8 times that a potato chips.
Probably hauling 42 pallets of fairy floss.
Loaded to the doors with sailboat fuel.
It is fully loaded with sailboat fuel!
@Weirdracin
If they had a windmill in there too they could charge as they drive.
I suspect it was fully loaded with air
Id like to see how it would do with that rgn hauling that tank , how much electric left the battery to get to the top of that hill
HOW FAR DID IT GO AFTER THE MOUNTAIN?
Let me see that Tesla pull that 150,000 pound tank going up the grade. Also that International is about to catch him at the end of the video!
it's not a tank . why are people such fools.
@@ronblack7870 ok smart a$$, armored vehicle. Still can't compare a semi towing 150,000 pounds compared to something towing what? Groceries?
I'm sure those exceptional scenarios will remain. Meanwhile, Pepsico is saving $30,000 per year in fuel costs driving Teslas 1,000 miles a day.
@@thecliffold5879its carrying a lav weighing about 13t, which is a lot less than what you said
@speckkatze good point 👍 fair enough
Weight and things like inclines can drastically reduce the range though. Tesla semi trucks would not be good for long hauls. However, they could work really well between regularly traveled fixed points that are well within its range.
no need for long haul trucks. build railroads for freight. Then have electrci/hybrids for the last mile
@@74_pelicans The world tried that system already in the first half of the 20th century, and yet large haulage trucks were developed and out competed the railways. If the railways could move freight faster, cheaper and safer they would not have lost the market they already dominated to trucking.
@@74_pelicans you seem so confident in your statement, yet are so appallingly wrong 💀
@@74_pelicansso only two miles between sets of tracks that are laid like a grid across cities and towns?
Yard dogs bout all they'd be good for
Fun fact. The motor is using 10000000 amps up that hill and the copper pipes (not wires, pipes) are glowing red hot.
You don't think they thought of that? These things run at very high voltage so that the amperage can be lower and the wiring can handle it. But yeah, if they were dumb enough to make this thing 12v...
😂
Boom?
Fun fact. Most people will believe anything if you preface it with "Fun fact".
I’ve driven for LTL carriers here in Cali for 37years in January. Its been 21 years here in the Sac/San Joaquin Valley last October. I’ve seen these Tesla Tractor/Trailers on the Hook going through the Lathrop, French Camp, Stockton area on Hwy 5 at least twice a week ever since they were introduced into transportation. They’re not ready for the riggers of the road! Take it from an Old Pro. Don’t waste your money on them.
Bring it to a truck pull race! Let's see how well it will do pulling a 200 ton trailer!
what hp diesel engines in those semis? Were they going full blast (doesn't look like it)? How many tons were they all pulling? What about the other diesel racing up from behind, gaining on the Tesla?
the fucking peterbuilt was pulling an M3 Bradley.
Torque and power are the strengths of electric motors. The question is how much energy capacity does the batteries have versus the diesel fuel... I would be more impressed if the battery pack could be forklift swapped while the trailer was still hitched up.
“Forklift swapped”
Yep, saw that fire.
Next comment.
Electric motors don't have just more torque, just because they are electric. MAN Trucks range from 1875 to 2400 Nm of torque, the semi has at best 2100 Nm (when fully charged). It depends on the engine (obviously)
@@mrpeace3860 Electric motors have notably more power and torque for a given size and weight than any ICE engine and the torque is a constant value almost immediately, basically a flat power curve. The whole point is that an electric semi exhibiting a lot of torque and power is not remarkable and the issue with EV's are the storage and or delivery of energy to the vehicles. Of course, countries such as Germany are already installing overhead wires over the major trunk roads so that EV semi's can simply extend a pantograph to not only be powered directly off the grid but top off their battery storage. There is obviously infrastructure investments required but that was also the case with ICE vehicles as someone had to build the roads to begin with. There are issues with EV's but they can be addressed. Besides, the US 2027 ban against the sale of new ICE vehicles, 2035 in Canada and 2040 in many European countries are all about light vehicles not the heavy vehicles such as semi's. We're likely to see more hybrid semi's in the near future than battery EV semi's, especially in North America.
@@mrpeace3860you missed his point,
he meant that an electric motor of any kind has more 'torque per unit of its weight'( or power per unit of its weight) compared any kind of diesel IC engine,,,
but electric motors run on electricity, and the energy storage density (volumetric as well as by weight) of a battery is very less compared to that of diesel fuel tank,,,
That's why electric trains with OHE system are very superior form of goods transportation economically as well as environmentally.
The Peps trailer is loaded. Pepsi uses axle lifts on the front axle and lifts the front axle when the trailer isn't loaded. The front axle on this trailer is down. Therefore the trailer is loaded.
I came here for the comment section. A lot of "motor monkeys" are wanting your location right now 😂
Prove it
So what? You can let the front axle down.if the trailer is not loaded?🎉
@@Johnny24rs The front axle is always down. Of course you can let down the rear axle if the trailer is loaded. That is not the point. The point is that both axles were down and thus the Tesla semi is pulling a loaded trailer.
@@SomeTechGuy666 Loaded with what? Cotton balls? Paper towels? Pampers?
And then two miles later the battery died, and took 14hrs to charge.
@Ogrematic lol that's for sire
Did anyone supply info on the weight of the batteries? I've read that they weigh about 8,000 lbs. That decreases the trucks payload substantially, the cost of that vehicle, the cost of the batteries when replacement is needed compared to the cost of a new Diesel engine? The range & full charge time on the EV compared to the fill up time for that diesel ..... Especially after that hill. Sorry, but what I see is an ad that addresses nothing regarding the increased cost of shipping via battery operated truck in an economy that is dealing with inflation that is the highest in 40 yrs.
That's because this isn't an add, its someone's random recording, tesla answered your question in their initial reveal event and delivery event. A lot of people don't understand how this truck isn't meant to replace the diesel trucks used today, its meant to get the ball rolling in EV truck adoption so that infastructure is built to handle an actual electric truck fleet. Using a battery truck makes deliveries take 20% linger but saves 300% on fuel, its meant to save a lot of money by having a very low operating cost, there is also facts like it using regen braking to increase range, so after the semi climbs a hill it can switch its motors into generators when going downhill and recharge its battery with some of the energy it use to climb up.
OK so what was the weight in the diesels VS Tesla. The Tesla is probably empty.
My first thought too!
Actually the Tesla is hauling it's batteries
@@dlarge6502 Good one!
It's unfortunate there is no weight comparison to assess the Tesla towed trailer. The Pete's load is perhaps 50,000 pounds. The information I found is several years old mentioning the Tesla tractor trailer was limited to a 150 mile radius when pulling heavier loads doing day runs.
Mostly EV semi are short to medium distance and last minute parcels. Still tho a very good advancement of freight transportation and EV can help reduce emissions greatly, according to EPA report from 1995-2015, the second most CO2 emissions are industrial transportation.
@@analienfromouterspaceand what's the point of reducing CO² emissions? So we can kill off all advanced plant life (which kills all mammals, etc)? And what kind of emissions (and child slave labor) are required to produce those toxic, highly combustible batteries? SMDH
Well this is all neat and stuff, what you aren't seeing is that the Tesla semi had to go straight to a super-charger after this impressive showing and it sat there plugged in for several hours recharging while the Diesel semis kept on driving until their 1,200mi range required them to fill up. That's what you don't see.
Actually, the Tesla recharged on the way back down the mountain (it has regenerative braking) while the other drivers worried about overheating their brakes. Then when it did need a charge, it needed about 50 minutes to add 400 miles of range. It was ready to go after lunch and a bathroom break. That's what you refuse to see.
@@mwaldykeI think most trucks have jake brakes, a mechanism that keeps the intake valve closed to use the compression of the engine to slow the rpms, the drivetrain and thus the whole truck down (something like that I’m not a truck expert),so they don’t have to worry about overheating any of their service brakes on the downhill. It’s like the Tesla’s regenerative braking as you said,only it’s been in use for decades. Fascinating technology if you want my opinion!
@@mwaldykePlease explain me the math behind these 400miles in 50 minutes charging. The semi has 900kwh battery pack and the supercharger max output is 250kwh, which works only that fast from 20-80%.
I would like to know your magic math trick, please enlighten me.
If I take your number I get 50 minutes of 250kwh = 208kw. And 900kwh / 500 miles means one mile cost 1.8 kwh on energy. 208kwh charged / 1.8 kWh per miles added 115miles within 50 minutes. So 1/4 of what you claim here.
Recently had a new electric,big cement truck go up in flames in Queensland,Australia. No chance putting the battery out,was like a big Oxy Acetylene torch having a dummy spit.
The diesel truck has the extra weight of the drivers testicles to contend with whereas the Tesla won't have that problem.
The heaviest thing in that Tesla truck was the driver.
lol 😂
How far can it go in comparison between fuel stops? How long does it take to charge? How many times more expensive is it? How much more would you have to pay a driver for all those additional hours/days? How many charging stations can one reasonably find when passing through states like North Dakota, Nevada, etc.?
Only California has the charging stations to charge them in under a hour, they have 500 miles at full load over mountain pass, using residential prices it cost $140 of electricity for 500 miles.
I'll stick with the good ole American Diesel. Thanks 👍👍👍
Me too 👍
So a Peterbilt towing a literal tank is fair to compare to an empty trailer?
Showing of difference in technology that has been known for over 100 years..
What does it weigh and what is the payload?
I wonder if the Tesla was carrying any cargo at all.
Note the relative ground clearance in the frame at 0:14. One can tell which is a truck and which is more of a van (pro tip: it matters where it snows).
It matters at most places I deliver too😂😂😂
its like the rabbit and the turtle, by the time it has had stopped to go recharge for an hour, the truck is several miles ahead.
Y’all tesla people saying, OHhHh iTs goEs so mUcH fasTEr tHeN oThER seMiS. Guess what? Semis are made to transport heavy stuff efficiently and not to race your local civic. Currently, deisel semis are just currently the better option. I am sure though, in a few decades there might be something that wont loose 1/2 of its range if it is chilly.
Is nobody gonna talk about that LITERAL TANK being transported behind a semi with no military escort/pilot vehicle like it’s private property😂
Edit:It’s an APC
Why would there need to be a military escort or pilot vehicle for that? I have yet to see one for any of the military loads I've seen on the highway. I mean, it's just an armored vehicle. It's not a nuke.
It’s probably being sent from an armory to a service depot. The armories don’t generally own semi trucks
@@Theweouthereforrealclub- The DoD contracts civilian transport. The Navy contracted civilian shipping for the jet engines, electronics, and other components that could not be serviced except at depot level, when I was in.
@@meatpopsicle1567 Yeah, I was active and guard. Active had provisions on base to handle crap like this, guard had to ship it out.
That is not a tank. It is a lightly armored infantry vehicle.
The last thing I want is faster semis. Also the all tires have a speed rated tire is 75 which really means when fully loaded don’t go over 65
0:09 Is no one gonna talk about the tank being transported?
What is crazy about it?
He wasn't hauling a TANK like that flatbed
No way that battery is lasting more than 10 miles on an incline as well lol
Telsa boy can't stay in his lane or turn the turnsignal off. What a pro
He probably lost the signal control menu, you can see the driver overly distracted looking at the screens while the signals erroneously indicate he is moving in the opposite direction to what he actually is.
The screens should be off while driving!
Driven like a true cager. Can't stay in his lane, driving nearly a mile in the middle lane with his left blinker on, nearly sideswipes 2 vehicles in the process of finding the blinkers.
From what information I have found, the truck is hauling 65k total, tractor is 14k so load is ~50k. The maximum load hauled I believe that was tested was 85k Edison Motors have built an amazing prototype that has hauled 101k.
I mean I get it. Anyone can get lost in the menus and be distracted
Diesel trucks probably passed him at the charging station
If they did not broke down first that is
Well, now we have proof that the Tesla tractor can pull an empty trailer up a hill.
That trailer is not empty. It has a large diesel generator inside.
@@rotten9711 If that's true, then they have to show that. If they don't show it.... it's not there. A real test would not only show the cargo but would have an equal weight cargo in each of the vans going up the hill....and that cargo weight should be the max gross permitted for that trailer.
@@rotten9711 😂
Battery life: 8%
Nearest Charger: 400 miles
Without load and throttle information, this says absolutely nothing.
the difference beeing the other trucks are loaded the tesla is hauling air
Fully loaded EV truck. You don;t know what you're talking about.
cope
@@thisismyname8627proof?
Tank hauler is actually doing damn good! That’s diesel power!
The tesla semi has 1500HP, it makes any load look easy.
Load of air yes 🤓
That "tank" (not a tank) is like 15 tons so.. Get educated.. Diesel power? Is that why they use electric motors to move TRAINS and massive dump trucks?.. lmao
Uses his blinker like a real Tesla driver..
yeah using the right hand turning signal then turns into the left lane then throws his signal on
No one even talking about his unsafe lane change because they hate what he’s driving even more😂
Now do a video showing a diesel truck fueling up and a Tesla truck charging up. See which one is done first and how long it takes for each one
Refill for the diesels: Several minutes. Recharge for the electric: The better part of a day.
Could you imagine these being in the movie Convoy 😂
@@dlarge6502 No
@@dlarge6502Exactly what I was thinking! Yeah, Sheriff Lyle Cottonmouth would’ve caught the Rubber Duck within the first few minutes of the film.
Funny, in Tesla's official range timelapse video, it never broke 60 mph, and it was getting passed by everything, including other diesel semis. But that one was with a full load, not empty. If it tried doing this with a full load, it would need to be recharged every 20 miles for an hour.
The one in Melbourne Australia, sure not a Tesla but an electric cement hauler, didn’t last 20 miles after its uphill climb, just got hot and exploded after coasting to a stop.
What tesla doesn't say is that the trailer is empty, you can tell by the way it sways. An empty trailer diesel truck would pass another diesel, not mention the diesel truck would keep going while the lame electric truck has to stop at 500 miles and wait an hour to charge 😄😄
its only 30m to charge and its required by law to rest for 30m and its not empty its full if 2 of the motors are gone its still faster than a gas truck
@@getalife944 30 min only if you meet beefy 1 megawatt charger. Otherwise it can take eternity to recharge.
@getalife944 it's empty
@@getalife944 you can tell its empty by the sway
trailer is fully loaded and they are running them like that purposely on donner pass to test the trucks to the extremes to uncover any flaws or issues. Tesla itself had a press conference with one pulling a flatbed with concrete dividers putting the truck at 82,000 lbs doing the same exact thing on the same exact road.
And look at that, it's trailer will have a small space for a load other than the battery.
Tesla truck runs out of charge before getting to the top and had to be towed by the semi carrying the tank.
After 2 million certified safe miles pushing a diesel I am definitely interested in driving this phone although they do make some valid points about not being able to lean out the window to back
With camera assistance many test drivers have minimal complaints about visibility, its also safer to be in the middle when going against traffic incase of impact.
@miguellopez3392 you can't safely back a tractor-trailer with cameras. A big truck isn't a Ford Fusion.
@@mikeb8342 you actually can, and even better than your rear view mirrors.
Then the Tesla has to recharge for 8 hours just cuz of that pass haha
Do we even know if this Tesla's trailer is even loaded?
No but we know it has the horsepower to do this fully loaded
If the truck is fully loaded, how much battery life is it using climbing the hill
@terrellscaife2411 the battery life on hills is less relevant when you consider the truck uses the same weight to recharge itself on a down hill.
Buddy, I was a truck driver for 17 years The main thing with this vehicle will be the range overall that’s where the disadvantaged
@terrellscaife2411 good thing the vast majority of trucks drive less than 400 miles a day, half of them less than 200 miles.
Not about speed when pulling heavy loads, it's about longevity, it's about how long will it take to refuel and how many miles I can go on that full tank as opposed to a full charge.
One simple question, how many miles it can do before needing another charge?
500 miles with 42k lbs of cargo, doesn't matter if flat or mountainous as the truck charges itself when going downhill.
@@miguellopez3392 that's decent. Good enough for mid range hauling. How long does it take to charge this truck?
@@oshochso batteries charge fastest from 15-80%, then is slowed down to prevent damage, this enables the truck to add 350 miles of range in about 30 minutes at a 2 megawatt 1000V charger built specifically for the tesla semitruck.
Unlike the diesel however, most of its already short range gets zapped and it has to recharge.
And you can't charge it until the batteries have fully cooled down. Lots of down time.
Good thing he wasn't hauling anything! That looked easy! 😀
About 10 years ago, my partner & myself (both from UK) were visiting family in LA. We did a bus trip across to Vegas for the fun of it. It was all 2 lanes each way, with a lot of trucks, mostly US brands. Every hill we came to, the US made trucks stayed in the right hand lane & laboured up the hill, regardless of payload. Every truck overtaking, regardless of payload, was a Volvo!
With a Cummins under the hood!
American trucks operated by following speed limit Americans, Volvo often operated by immigrants who don’t follow laws.
Is that another diesel truck also overtaking at the back too ?
This isn't scientific footage, but the tesla semi was built for smashing Hill climbs, it has around 3x the average power of a class 8 semitruck, so unless all are at full load it doesn't tell you much.
You know what's even better than a shitty overpriced electric truck?
Having decent fucking rail.
That dude was riding the line
That was the first thing I noticed. Also cut in front of that other semi entering its lane eliminating his safe braking distance.
Nah bro optimus gonna transform now
Let's see the two trucks progress 170 miles from here.
Same as shown here I'd suspect.
@Tbird761
No one of these vehicles will be sidelined by design. The other will still be traveling down the road. The classic tortoise and the hare story based on reality. Until the magic battery and renewable technologies are invented, this Tesla semi is just a plaything grounded in folly.
the other diesel drivers are just chilling and driving, not because their truck is less powerful, meanwhile the tesla driver lost 10 hr in charging that is why he is hurrying.
The tortoises will arrive at their destinations long before the electric hare.
The tesla stopped 100 miles later to charge but the charging station was offline.
it can go around 500 miles before recharging
It has regenerative braking, it can charge its battery when going downhill.
@@Just-An-Average-Guy unloaded.
You load this with 80k lbs and it's going slow, less than 50 miles of range, and taking several hours to charge
@@miguellopez3392 you can NOT ride the brakes when going downhill pulling heavy.
@@bldontmatter5319 fully loaded, you'd better search for info before commenting