Simon telling Marcus that his fish didn't have any names was just..... TOO BEAUTIFUL!!! I immediately had flashbacks to season 1 and I'm glad Simon didn't tell Marcus the names of his fish. WILMON SUPREMACY!!!!
Marcus is a well-written character. His actions and words don’t really visibly come off as antagonistic unless you backtrack to what he is saying or doing.
@@gyosob7265 I see him as both frustrated and antagonistic in this situation. He was antagonistic because he was frustrated, when he didn't need to be antagonistic. Simon had told him what he wanted and he ignored it, and is mad at Simon for not giving him what he wanted even though Simon already told him that he couldn't.
@@symonebriannna and at the same time Simon also tried to use this guy as a rebound to just hook up with, Simon isn't an angel either, no one is in this story
Dude, when Marcus started to make some bizarre assumptions about Simon having "daddy issues"... I realized what kind of character he was. I hope we have less of that stuff and more of Simon and Wilhelm's relationship in season three.
Kinda felt like that was his way of trying to get Simon to be with him. But, as uncomfy Simon was acting,I could tell what kind of character Marcus was under the sweet face.
The moment Marcus said "I get that he fu**ed you over", I was done with him. How dare him. Marcus doesn't know anything about the situation. Also, Wilhelm would never talk to Simon like Marcus did during their last scene, so disrespectful and just mean. Simon literally was the victim, everyone could see a sex tape with him in it and he didn't consent to that. That's so traumatic.
I feel like he was using that trauma as a way into Simon's life. Acting like he'll be his saviour. Seems like he's also basing all his assumptions about W and S's relationship on school rumors, or his mom's gossip and that's pretty manipulative, yes.
I was okay with Marcus and then Simon tried to call things off and he goes “ I know you don’t want to destroy this” BOY HE IS LITERALLY TRYING TO BREAK UP WITH YOU DONT TELL HIM WHAT HE WANTS
PLEASE I can't even deal with Marcus when he brought up Simon's dad that's so manipulative especially when he was like "maybe you don't really have the best role models for healthy relationships" that's so gaslighting like how would Marcus know?? Also I hate the way Marcus was guilt tripping and attacking him at the end, like Wille's a literal angel he would NEVER talk to Simon like that
There were so many things wrong about that conversation between Simon and Marcus where Simon was essentially trying to end things between them. Starting with Marcus bringing up Wilhelm and saying "I know he fucked you over, but I won't hurt you like he did," especially when, side note: I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Simon never actually confirmed to Marcus that he and Wilhelm dated and that it was Wilhelm in the video. Like he never denied it, but he never confirmed it either which just made this statement even weirder for me. Then Marcus mentions Simon's father saying that Simon doesn't have very good adult role models in his life and essentially implying that he has "daddy issues" which is why he's not ready to commit to him. Which like dude you're making hella large assumptions based on things your mother told you about Simon instead of waiting to hear about the details about the most personal parts of Simon's life from Simon himself. Again WTF?! But what really takes the cake for me in that scene and was the most bizarre part of this entire interaction for me, was when Marcus then hugged Simon and said "I know you wouldn't want to destroy something this beautiful." I'm sorry, but what??!!??!? Like I am still so so SO confused about this statement. I had to rewatch that scene 3 times because I kept thinking I was hearing it wrong and then the final time I turned on the closed captions and realized that I hadn't heard wrong and that was exactly what he was saying. I just wanted to be like Marcus honey, you and Simon have literally known each other for like 2 minutes, hung out twice, kind of made out for like 2.5 seconds once and then Simon basically ghosted you and started ignoring all of your texts and calls and avoiding you for lord knows how long (I'm always confused by how much time passes on this show lol) and then when Simon finally talks to you again he tells you that he's not ready for a serious relationship, in other words that he's not over his ex and wants to call it quits, but somehow you're telling yourself that there's something "beautiful" between the two of you??????? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE! Also, I don't understand how Marcus can think that he knows who Simon is and what Simon wants more than SIMON himself and can completely disregard and ignore everything Simon is saying and feeling because of things he heard about Simon's personal life from OTHER people.
dudeee it bothered me so much how Simme told him like 50 times he didn't want a relationship and Marcus just kept on pushing him into it while also saying "I understand" like bitch just stop
"Where is he, I need to say more manipulative things." LMAO also that shot of Wille walking and the "It's Britney, btch" is perfect it almost sounded like him lol
Marcus is just like someone from my past, they manipulate and convince u to do something or believe in something and the moment it backfires they make you feel like sh*t? Such people are never wrong. Let's pray not to meet such people in our lives, they can easily break you down if you're not strong enough...
Legit the whole time I got the weirdest vibe from Marcus, so manipulative but in subtle ways! If Simon wasn’t in love with wille I feel like he could have been stuck in this relationship for a long ass time
no but the part where Marcus is like then we can get out of here., regarding the ball, and Marcus wanting to leave right after Simon performs. I love how it goes "why did you even come?" this is soo fuking true
I just extremely loved the scene when simon tells marcus the fishes don't have names. I MEAN SIMON AND WILLIE LITERALLY HAD THE BEST TIME TOGETHER IN THAT ROOM WHILE SIMON NAMING THE FISHES
I literally wanted to gnaw on Marcus’s leg the whole time, at first it was just me being bitter but when Simon tried to break it off it’s like he just wrapped him up in some loophole so he wouldn’t be able to refuse. The way he talks to Simon just gives off bad vibes, like Simon is something that he owns, compared to Wille who is always considerate of his feelings and recognises when he’s fucked up. Like with Felice, when she explained how he hurt her he literally goes ‘that was a really fucked up thing for me to do and I’m sorry’ whereas shartface Marcus would just rebound it and make it seem like someone else’s fault. I HATE HIM, I SWEAR IF HE STIRS SHIT UP IN SEASON THREE IM BOUTA START A MARCUS HATE CLUB WHOS IN
“ where is he so I can go say more manipulative things” I literally had to sit down. 😂 If Marcus had been written differently I still would’ve wanted Simon to get back together with Wilhelm But I would’ve wanted Marcus to find love with someone else. Perhaps Vincent. but Marcus had all of the red flags in the world. Tommy Wättring deserved better. Thanks so much for this amazing edit!
Yes, Marcus is very toxic, but he was right when he said Simon sees himself as a victim ALL THE TIME. Simon doesn’t even stop to think how Wilhe suffers through all of this, and it shows during the season when Simon disregards Wilhe’s feelings and experience. So yes Marcus sucks and is manipulative, but he still has a point at times.
Completely agree with this. I strongly dislike Marcus, but we have to realise that what he said to Simon during their last argument wasn't all wrong. The only good thing that character brought tbh, alongside the jealousy scenes.
At the same times : YES But also , Simon did take wille situation into consideration more and more, that is what is so powerful during the book class scene. They are not speaking about the book anymore, but about how much they understand each other's feelings.
Simon can be immature at times, but we have to keep in mind Simon and Wille do have massively different amounts of privilege. The consequences both would suffer for the same actions would be massively different. Simon could lose his education and means of any future livelihood. He has a reason to be scared.
Yes! And August’s actor, Malte, is such a cutie pie too. He’s a hugger and when asked which celebrity shouldn’t be famous (while omar said kanye lmao), he said no name coz he believed that’s mean. he’s the sweetest 😭
@@yowyow976 Aw, I know He's such an angel And thank god for him bringing such an outstanding sensitivity to the otherwise utterly perplexing character of August He's amazing in that role his portrayal of someone struggling so deeply with his mental health is so meaningful to me and just couldn't possibly be better... Anyway, he's the bomb, love that guy 😊
what’s so funny to me is that marcus told simon he didn’t watch the video and simon was like “cool didn’t ask but ok”. also i’m pretty sure simon never told marcus that him and wilhelm were together (i could be wrong abt this as well) so for marcus to say “after wilhelm f*cked you over” it felt um…weird. like unless he watched the video or simon told him, how would he know that simon and wilhelm were involved with each other like that? maybe marcus was lying about that video which just makes him even more of a douche
Everyone at school, including the teachers, knew that Simon and Wille are/were together. Marcus heard the students talking about it, heard Wille's denial But he definitely saw the video though...
let's all agree Simon dodged a bullet! I know Simon still had his issues, especially while he was trying his best to get over Wille,Marcus kinda seemed like the over possesive type too. I could tell he got off vibes from Marcus and was very uncomfortable when he touched him.
I feel as well like the height difference between Marcus and Simon was being used to show his antagonism, because it made me uncomfortable multiple times. These red flag comments he’s making partnered with how small and young Simon appeared around him- particularly when he’s supposed to be comforting Simon or when they were alone, grabbing Simon’s chin to kiss him, came across to me as there’s an underlying threat. (Not that height differences in relationships in general are threatening at all, just I think the show was using it as another indicator in this instance.) Whereas with Wilhelm, they felt quite balanced (even with the class difference) and also open in their relationship and this was reflected in their balanced heights as well. I feel like if we see more of Marcus in Series 3, more of his antagonism could become apparent 👀
I was trying to like Marcus but it felt wrong. He was trying to manipulate Simon and even after Simon told he didn’t wanted anything serious, that he was ready, Marcus was still pushing him.
also did you guys realized that it's a minor and adult relationship? like I don't know man a high school boy and a college guy smells like red flags to me I cant even think why simon's mom agree to it
Yes and no. This is 16 and 18. In Sweden it is 1st and 3rd year (the last one) of high school. So it's to be a relationship between "an adult and a minor", but at the same time the age difference itself is still acceptable (it's exactly the same difference as Felice-August)
I am a actally tired of this "toxic" label in fandsoms... Let characters to be more flawed than angels, even very flawed without seeing them as hopeless sociopaths. I didnt like some of his actions especially this dad conversation, but honestly I like that show never made him and true villian. And I loved how he finally have spoken to Simon at the end, that he was harsh instead of being sad and begging, because I think Simon needed someone who could point out his selfish, close-mindes thinking, something Wille would never do, because Wille could always feel everything in the world is his fault. I felt like show have been suggesting all the time that Wille is the only one who ruins everything, who dont want to stand up for himself, who doesn't want to live in the truth, who lies, hide and avoids reaponsibiloty while Simon is always the hurted one. Of course we could see Wille struggling what was amazing, we could compassionate with him but I needed someone to confront Simon as well, someone who could see it from the other perspective and god I was SO satiafied seeing Marcus as the one who did that at the end. Who was just angry and straightforward, who didnt give a fuck about our favourite lovely royal story, who pointed out all these little flaws itching me all the time instead of apologising for existing. I loved that!!! That made Simon's story in this season so complete. He is a good boy but he was never an angel and he is far too good character to be treated like a child, he deserved a cold shower too ❤️
@@cookies6455 Yes. I dont like turning all characters in fandoms into black and white. Our favourite characters become funless, tasteless gods without a single flaw (or just with these "cute" "funny" flaws), while characters we dislike (mostly because of ship or some few actions) easly become manipulative, stupid psychopaths. In good writing there is no place for any of them and Young Royals is very well written so I refuse seeing it that way 😂😂😂
Chile, I feel awful. At first i was so mad at Simon for ruining things with this guy, thinking he played him and also Wilhelm. I really thought Marcus was an amazing guy. This was when it came out, when I was still trying to get over a toxic relationship I was in. Now I see this all over again and just now notice all the red flags that I didn't see before and thought to myself that I really thought I deserved worse or to be patronize or saw normal that behaviour when in fact it's really manipulative. Something YR taught me.
I know from the begining that Simon will came back to Wille 😅 Marcus was wiser than Simon and he somehow knows that Simon is still very in love with Wilhelm It was obvious to EVERYONE 😁
shit guys i think i was also manupulated along with simon by marcus cus i actually thought he was a good guy and that he was too good for marcus n tht hes perfect and everything😃😃😃😃
He's not toxic, alright ,He's a very sweet guy. You just wanna see what you ppl wanna see. I had doubts on him too but after this scene i was so moved, that simon really deserves someone like marcus who's this sweet to him. He gives him soace,all he needs,time and comfort. You all are always looking for faults where it doesn't belongs to ,that's why the world is so unnecessarily fucked up
i just realized how weird and manipulative it is that marcus would bring up simon's dad like that,,, like that was so weird and random 😭
Ikr? I hated that part. Like, you're just becoming like all of them. You ain't any better.
@@jade.g07the part of him being like "no offense but you haven't had the best role models" was so fucking rude??? like what are you saying rn bro
@@astridway4240 IKR?? like - okay half true but you don't have to say it like it's his fault. smh.
@@jade.g07 yeah ...
FACTS
Simon telling Marcus that his fish didn't have any names was just..... TOO BEAUTIFUL!!! I immediately had flashbacks to season 1 and I'm glad Simon didn't tell Marcus the names of his fish. WILMON SUPREMACY!!!!
Telling August? *Marcus haha
@@rachellekut OMG thank you so much. I didn't even notice my mistake🤣
Right I was like that’s only for willie to know 😂😂 I’m so evil 😂
@@raywilliams9595 you're not evil at all. We all felt that way🤣
I just was so shook by how intelligent the writers were for doing that. I had to pause the show and think for a moment it was great 😂
Marcus is a well-written character. His actions and words don’t really visibly come off as antagonistic unless you backtrack to what he is saying or doing.
good point. i think the writers probably did that on purpose
And it's scary.
but he isn't even antagonistic, he's frustrated, which is valid in this situation tbh but then that does not mean he's good for Simon
@@gyosob7265 I see him as both frustrated and antagonistic in this situation. He was antagonistic because he was frustrated, when he didn't need to be antagonistic. Simon had told him what he wanted and he ignored it, and is mad at Simon for not giving him what he wanted even though Simon already told him that he couldn't.
@@symonebriannna and at the same time Simon also tried to use this guy as a rebound to just hook up with, Simon isn't an angel either, no one is in this story
Dude, when Marcus started to make some bizarre assumptions about Simon having "daddy issues"... I realized what kind of character he was. I hope we have less of that stuff and more of Simon and Wilhelm's relationship in season three.
i just want them happy 😭 but yk that obviously won't be the case
Kinda felt like that was his way of trying to get Simon to be with him. But, as uncomfy Simon was acting,I could tell what kind of character Marcus was under the sweet face.
The moment Marcus said "I get that he fu**ed you over", I was done with him. How dare him. Marcus doesn't know anything about the situation. Also, Wilhelm would never talk to Simon like Marcus did during their last scene, so disrespectful and just mean. Simon literally was the victim, everyone could see a sex tape with him in it and he didn't consent to that. That's so traumatic.
I feel like he was using that trauma as a way into Simon's life. Acting like he'll be his saviour. Seems like he's also basing all his assumptions about W and S's relationship on school rumors, or his mom's gossip and that's pretty manipulative, yes.
TOTALLY! And when he brought up his dad,I was like uh uh. And how mad he got when Simon rejected him and tried to flip the script.
He basically is "the nice guy" 😫
I was okay with Marcus and then Simon tried to call things off and he goes “ I know you don’t want to destroy this”
BOY HE IS LITERALLY TRYING TO BREAK UP WITH YOU DONT TELL HIM WHAT HE WANTS
😂on this scene I was like “ aRe U sUrE aBoUt ThaT?!” (John Cena’s voice ofc) 💀
Yeah. I was like "Destroy what beautiful thing? Y'all aint even together! AT ALL!" And he's claiming him already.
PLEASE I can't even deal with Marcus when he brought up Simon's dad that's so manipulative especially when he was like "maybe you don't really have the best role models for healthy relationships" that's so gaslighting like how would Marcus know?? Also I hate the way Marcus was guilt tripping and attacking him at the end, like Wille's a literal angel he would NEVER talk to Simon like that
fr wille is constantly thinking abt simon. they're so perfecr
To be honest Wilhelm was being shit in the season and Simons dad was ehhh so he wasn’t wrong also the whole august and Sara thing
Wille isn't an angel but he isn't Marcus. Which is good
There were so many things wrong about that conversation between Simon and Marcus where Simon was essentially trying to end things between them. Starting with Marcus bringing up Wilhelm and saying "I know he fucked you over, but I won't hurt you like he did," especially when, side note: I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Simon never actually confirmed to Marcus that he and Wilhelm dated and that it was Wilhelm in the video. Like he never denied it, but he never confirmed it either which just made this statement even weirder for me. Then Marcus mentions Simon's father saying that Simon doesn't have very good adult role models in his life and essentially implying that he has "daddy issues" which is why he's not ready to commit to him. Which like dude you're making hella large assumptions based on things your mother told you about Simon instead of waiting to hear about the details about the most personal parts of Simon's life from Simon himself. Again WTF?!
But what really takes the cake for me in that scene and was the most bizarre part of this entire interaction for me, was when Marcus then hugged Simon and said "I know you wouldn't want to destroy something this beautiful." I'm sorry, but what??!!??!? Like I am still so so SO confused about this statement. I had to rewatch that scene 3 times because I kept thinking I was hearing it wrong and then the final time I turned on the closed captions and realized that I hadn't heard wrong and that was exactly what he was saying. I just wanted to be like Marcus honey, you and Simon have literally known each other for like 2 minutes, hung out twice, kind of made out for like 2.5 seconds once and then Simon basically ghosted you and started ignoring all of your texts and calls and avoiding you for lord knows how long (I'm always confused by how much time passes on this show lol) and then when Simon finally talks to you again he tells you that he's not ready for a serious relationship, in other words that he's not over his ex and wants to call it quits, but somehow you're telling yourself that there's something "beautiful" between the two of you??????? MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!
Also, I don't understand how Marcus can think that he knows who Simon is and what Simon wants more than SIMON himself and can completely disregard and ignore everything Simon is saying and feeling because of things he heard about Simon's personal life from OTHER people.
Yes!! Exactly! He’s so gaslighting
EXACTLY
Brooooo thissss!!!!! 💅
Not you spitting facts honey!!
Homie was trying too hard and got burn 🤣
Exactly! the part where Simon wants to break up with him and he says that really felt off
dudeee it bothered me so much how Simme told him like 50 times he didn't want a relationship and Marcus just kept on pushing him into it while also saying "I understand" like bitch just stop
"Where is he, I need to say more manipulative things." LMAO also that shot of Wille walking and the "It's Britney, btch" is perfect it almost sounded like him lol
i read in one comment that omar was liking tweets about marcus being manipulative, even our boy noticed 😭
Marcus is just like someone from my past, they manipulate and convince u to do something or believe in something and the moment it backfires they make you feel like sh*t? Such people are never wrong.
Let's pray not to meet such people in our lives, they can easily break you down if you're not strong enough...
Legit the whole time I got the weirdest vibe from Marcus, so manipulative but in subtle ways! If Simon wasn’t in love with wille I feel like he could have been stuck in this relationship for a long ass time
oh, that would have been a long, ugly, toxic, and emotionally abusive relationship like 💀
no but the part where Marcus is like then we can get out of here., regarding the ball, and Marcus wanting to leave right after Simon performs.
I love how it goes "why did you even come?" this is soo fuking true
I just extremely loved the scene when simon tells marcus the fishes don't have names. I MEAN SIMON AND WILLIE LITERALLY HAD THE BEST TIME TOGETHER IN THAT ROOM WHILE SIMON NAMING THE FISHES
"it's Britney bitch" 😭I'm dying
HELP I wheezed so hard at 1:02💀 why is this so funny😭
I literally wanted to gnaw on Marcus’s leg the whole time, at first it was just me being bitter but when Simon tried to break it off it’s like he just wrapped him up in some loophole so he wouldn’t be able to refuse. The way he talks to Simon just gives off bad vibes, like Simon is something that he owns, compared to Wille who is always considerate of his feelings and recognises when he’s fucked up. Like with Felice, when she explained how he hurt her he literally goes ‘that was a really fucked up thing for me to do and I’m sorry’ whereas shartface Marcus would just rebound it and make it seem like someone else’s fault. I HATE HIM, I SWEAR IF HE STIRS SHIT UP IN SEASON THREE IM BOUTA START A MARCUS HATE CLUB WHOS IN
I’m already in it
“ where is he so I can go say more manipulative things” I literally had to sit down. 😂
If Marcus had been written differently I still would’ve wanted Simon to get back together with Wilhelm But I would’ve wanted Marcus to find love with someone else. Perhaps Vincent. but Marcus had all of the red flags in the world. Tommy Wättring deserved better.
Thanks so much for this amazing edit!
Yes, Marcus is very toxic, but he was right when he said Simon sees himself as a victim ALL THE TIME. Simon doesn’t even stop to think how Wilhe suffers through all of this, and it shows during the season when Simon disregards Wilhe’s feelings and experience. So yes Marcus sucks and is manipulative, but he still has a point at times.
Completely agree with this. I strongly dislike Marcus, but we have to realise that what he said to Simon during their last argument wasn't all wrong. The only good thing that character brought tbh, alongside the jealousy scenes.
I do agree. I found myself nodding when he said that. He kind of DOES think of himself as a victim but also a strong believer of his beliefs.
I mean Simon aint no saint either. Just like what Marcus said, "You said you didn't want any drama but that turns you on apparently."
At the same times : YES
But also , Simon did take wille situation into consideration more and more, that is what is so powerful during the book class scene.
They are not speaking about the book anymore, but about how much they understand each other's feelings.
Simon can be immature at times, but we have to keep in mind Simon and Wille do have massively different amounts of privilege. The consequences both would suffer for the same actions would be massively different. Simon could lose his education and means of any future livelihood. He has a reason to be scared.
Unrelated but
Marcus is really handsome and the actor playing Marcus is so sweet.
Sooo sweet! ☺️
Yes! And August’s actor, Malte, is such a cutie pie too. He’s a hugger and when asked which celebrity shouldn’t be famous (while omar said kanye lmao), he said no name coz he believed that’s mean. he’s the sweetest 😭
@@yowyow976 Aw, I know
He's such an angel
And thank god for him bringing such an outstanding sensitivity to the otherwise utterly perplexing character of August
He's amazing in that role
his portrayal of someone struggling so deeply with his mental health is so meaningful to me and just couldn't possibly be better...
Anyway, he's the bomb, love that guy 😊
@@yowyow976 It was Omar that said Kanye not Edvin🙄🙄🙄
@@athenare313I bet Omar is a swiftie (Who knows knows)
Simon was so toxic too 🤣
Marcus-No offense but let me be honest to you
Me-So casually cruel in the name of been honest
OMFG🤣🤣🤣
Its was so clear to me how toxic their relationship was from the start. Like I sat there yelling every time Marcus opened his mouth 😂
Me too !!!
Ngl, I was waiting for a sort of "redemption" arc from his character, but it just got worse and worse. Wilmon supremacy
what’s so funny to me is that marcus told simon he didn’t watch the video and simon was like “cool didn’t ask but ok”. also i’m pretty sure simon never told marcus that him and wilhelm were together (i could be wrong abt this as well) so for marcus to say “after wilhelm f*cked you over” it felt um…weird. like unless he watched the video or simon told him, how would he know that simon and wilhelm were involved with each other like that? maybe marcus was lying about that video which just makes him even more of a douche
Everyone at school, including the teachers, knew that Simon and Wille are/were together. Marcus heard the students talking about it, heard Wille's denial
But he definitely saw the video though...
let's all agree Simon dodged a bullet! I know Simon still had his issues, especially while he was trying his best to get over Wille,Marcus kinda seemed like the over possesive type too. I could tell he got off vibes from Marcus and was very uncomfortable when he touched him.
he gave bad vibes from the start bro
I feel as well like the height difference between Marcus and Simon was being used to show his antagonism, because it made me uncomfortable multiple times.
These red flag comments he’s making partnered with how small and young Simon appeared around him- particularly when he’s supposed to be comforting Simon or when they were alone, grabbing Simon’s chin to kiss him, came across to me as there’s an underlying threat. (Not that height differences in relationships in general are threatening at all, just I think the show was using it as another indicator in this instance.)
Whereas with Wilhelm, they felt quite balanced (even with the class difference) and also open in their relationship and this was reflected in their balanced heights as well.
I feel like if we see more of Marcus in Series 3, more of his antagonism could become apparent 👀
i automatically read “wilhelm and simon being toxic” bc i’ve been seeing there’s names everywhere. and i was literally about to explode from anger.
I was trying to like Marcus but it felt wrong. He was trying to manipulate Simon and even after Simon told he didn’t wanted anything serious, that he was ready, Marcus was still pushing him.
also did you guys realized that it's a minor and adult relationship? like I don't know man a high school boy and a college guy smells like red flags to me I cant even think why simon's mom agree to it
It never said Marcus age and age of consent is different so a 16/17 with a 18-20 year old could be completely normal
Yes and no. This is 16 and 18. In Sweden it is 1st and 3rd year (the last one) of high school. So it's to be a relationship between "an adult and a minor", but at the same time the age difference itself is still acceptable (it's exactly the same difference as Felice-August)
😂So funny! I want to see more of Omar's inner monologue...
Watching him practically forcing Simon to kiss him most of the time is just 🤮
1:02
SIMON AFTER CHEET ON ME:
““Upps!! i did it again i play whith your hert ❤ the lost in the game...““
“Hope no one saw that” 😭✋🏽
Marcus is the type of guy that would rant on r/AITA but intentionally twist the story so everyone would feel sorry for him
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THIS MADE ME LAUGH I LOVE THIS
I am a actally tired of this "toxic" label in fandsoms... Let characters to be more flawed than angels, even very flawed without seeing them as hopeless sociopaths. I didnt like some of his actions especially this dad conversation, but honestly I like that show never made him and true villian. And I loved how he finally have spoken to Simon at the end, that he was harsh instead of being sad and begging, because I think Simon needed someone who could point out his selfish, close-mindes thinking, something Wille would never do, because Wille could always feel everything in the world is his fault. I felt like show have been suggesting all the time that Wille is the only one who ruins everything, who dont want to stand up for himself, who doesn't want to live in the truth, who lies, hide and avoids reaponsibiloty while Simon is always the hurted one. Of course we could see Wille struggling what was amazing, we could compassionate with him but I needed someone to confront Simon as well, someone who could see it from the other perspective and god I was SO satiafied seeing Marcus as the one who did that at the end. Who was just angry and straightforward, who didnt give a fuck about our favourite lovely royal story, who pointed out all these little flaws itching me all the time instead of apologising for existing. I loved that!!! That made Simon's story in this season so complete. He is a good boy but he was never an angel and he is far too good character to be treated like a child, he deserved a cold shower too ❤️
Amen Girl!!! 👏 I commented this too!!!!!
absolutely agree
Yes! You don't have to HATE characters just because you're not a fan of a new relationship.
All characters have good and bad sides to them.
Alguien que habla con la verdad 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@cookies6455 Yes. I dont like turning all characters in fandoms into black and white. Our favourite characters become funless, tasteless gods without a single flaw (or just with these "cute" "funny" flaws), while characters we dislike (mostly because of ship or some few actions) easly become manipulative, stupid psychopaths. In good writing there is no place for any of them and Young Royals is very well written so I refuse seeing it that way 😂😂😂
Comparing him with his awful dad cause he didn’t wanna date anymore was just so terrible. That was the moment I hated him
Literally the funniest thing 😭😭😭
Simon stop trying to be Charlie Spring. 🙄 It's so obvious what they are doing.
😂😂, I was dying when I heard liar
Chile, I feel awful. At first i was so mad at Simon for ruining things with this guy, thinking he played him and also Wilhelm. I really thought Marcus was an amazing guy. This was when it came out, when I was still trying to get over a toxic relationship I was in. Now I see this all over again and just now notice all the red flags that I didn't see before and thought to myself that I really thought I deserved worse or to be patronize or saw normal that behaviour when in fact it's really manipulative. Something YR taught me.
I know from the begining that Simon will came back to Wille 😅
Marcus was wiser than Simon and he somehow knows that Simon is still very in love with Wilhelm
It was obvious to EVERYONE 😁
master gaslighter
„WILLE WOULD NEVER“ BAHAHAHAHAAHAH
Wilmon forever :D 💗
Marcus is not special. He does not know the names of Simons fish. Only Willie ❤
The first time i saw Marcus I was like, " OK a guy with Sara are they going to end up together????" But now I'm like, "What!?!"
Some of us forgot that Marcus didn't have sex with Simon Even when Simon wanted too
LMAOO I LOVE THIS
Me questioning the name because this aint straight at all also SIMON'S VOICE IS JUST😍
E ainda existem fãs do Marcus
Was Marcus ever toxic?
Lemme just bring up the fact Markus is 18 and Simon is 16 🥴
I swear he just lurks around the hillerska campus
I mean that’s literally 2 years and u act like Simons dumb as shit
@@gaypotato946 sounds a bit noncey 😂
@@gaypotato946
He seems to work as grounds keeper
Marcus est tellement manipulateur. Il ne voulait juste pas que Simon le quitte et il a fait du forcing. Il est tellement malsain ce personnage...
I mean….it’s not like Simon and Wilhelm’s relationship was completely healthy 💀
where did you find the last clip I can't find it anywhere ? 😭
it is the beginning of the last episode
@@amor.edit52 yes but where did you find the clip ? I mean is there a scene pack or something for downloading
@@ilithya_real_2666 ohhh I didn’t find it on RUclips. I can upload it later today on my RUclips if you’d like?
@@amor.edit52 oh I would like it thank you very much :)
@@ilithya_real_2666 posted. hope it helps with your edits :)
Isn’t Marcus like the same age as August (since in same year) so Marcus MIGHT be 18, Simone is 16
Just gonna leave this here...
What of it? Lol it's just a two-year gap ... girl, please
Simon. No E in his name. And two years is not much....
2 years is much actually, in teen years. It bothers me too
@@EmberC bruh it’s 2 years most people don’t give a shit
@@brennathecatlover4360 i give a shit
this man was weird since the beginning sorry
shit guys i think i was also manupulated along with simon by marcus cus i actually thought he was a good guy and that he was too good for marcus n tht hes perfect and everything😃😃😃😃
I'm gonna be 100% honest, I didn't like Marcus from the start. As soon as I saw him
He gave me a vibe I didn't like
Turns out I was right
Oh man
I hate Marcus-
He's not toxic, alright ,He's a very sweet guy. You just wanna see what you ppl wanna see. I had doubts on him too but after this scene i was so moved, that simon really deserves someone like marcus who's this sweet to him. He gives him soace,all he needs,time and comfort. You all are always looking for faults where it doesn't belongs to ,that's why the world is so unnecessarily fucked up