The INSANE true story of the MotoRex scandal

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  • @frenchmarty7446
    @frenchmarty7446 3 года назад +775

    I was today years old when I learned how easy it is to illegally import a R34.
    I will now proceed to not act on this information in anyway...

    • @craig42069
      @craig42069 3 года назад +28

      You still have to drop six figures on an R34

    • @stefan_4508
      @stefan_4508 3 года назад +9

      Adam LZ’s one is illegal as well I’m pretty sure

    • @VeilSideZ32
      @VeilSideZ32 3 года назад +7

      @@stefan_4508 it is illegal

    • @chacedelaney7282
      @chacedelaney7282 3 года назад +7

      Here in Washington its not uncommon to see cars that came in from canada

    • @robertrose7455
      @robertrose7455 3 года назад +6

      There used to be grey areas that would let people import The skylines but the government already Stop that unfortunately.

  • @squid_fish
    @squid_fish 3 года назад +1797

    Craig looks like he spent a little more time in the hostess bar than he’s letting on

    • @rjlopezmr.p2216
      @rjlopezmr.p2216 3 года назад +2

      😆

    • @BigSexii
      @BigSexii 3 года назад +25

      The Hispanic version is called Cantinas 🤣

    • @SlingSalsa
      @SlingSalsa 3 года назад +18

      LoL, I'm sure a few maid cafés as well

    • @remix4054
      @remix4054 3 года назад +12

      @@BigSexii craig has definitely been to Adelitas and Hong Kong in TJ

    • @CheechElMexicano
      @CheechElMexicano 3 года назад +26

      In murica, we call them brothels 😂

  • @CephBacon
    @CephBacon 3 года назад +1353

    "If you think about it, it's really just an Evo X" brave words from Craig!

    • @blackonblack...9244
      @blackonblack...9244 3 года назад +50

      I used to read that they (bone stock because fan bottoms like to argue semantics) drove (handle) like 90s 2000s Camaro. They aren't worth it, imhop. I had a friend that owned one, damaged broke a oil pan and he had to wait months for the oil pan to come in from Japan. He decided it wasn't worth the wait.

    • @blackshadow7192
      @blackshadow7192 3 года назад +76

      People often forget they're 3500 pounds 90s gt cars with only 280hp(allegedly 320)

    • @egnaro-hm1bd
      @egnaro-hm1bd 3 года назад +126

      @@blackonblack...9244 couldn't order overnight parts from japan?

    • @Orcawhale1
      @Orcawhale1 3 года назад +11

      His not wrong though.

    • @becomeraptureready
      @becomeraptureready 3 года назад +59

      Evo X is far better than a R34 tho

  • @michaelallen2501
    @michaelallen2501 3 года назад +753

    Craig calling an R34 a fanboi car is the high water mark of irony lol.

    • @craiglieberman
      @craiglieberman 3 года назад +208

      Spoken from actual experience. LOl

    • @EnfernoJoe
      @EnfernoJoe 3 года назад +11

      Don’t forget... the r34 is the grandfather of all the R chassis and JDM cars.... 😂 wtf

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 3 года назад +60

      Most JDM cars are overhyped. You can get American muscle cars for dirt cheap compared to JDM sport cars.

    • @ythobrit515
      @ythobrit515 3 года назад +27

      @@angelgjr1999 yea but they're slow.

    • @albertgaspar627
      @albertgaspar627 3 года назад +49

      Naw it is, because consider the price of a Supra before the Fast and Furious came out. I'm just surprised the series didn't have a 260Z or a 510/Bluebird. This movie series did to JDM what the Mad Max movies did to the Australian X body Ford Falcon in America--times two.

  • @jacksonyu6065
    @jacksonyu6065 3 года назад +818

    R34 GT-R: illegal
    Jeep Wrangler with no doors on the highway: that's fine

    • @idkmynameis4064
      @idkmynameis4064 3 года назад +22

      Yeah thats a lil bs but merica, plus R34's are slow starting to pour in the US now

    • @PigglyWigglyDeluxe
      @PigglyWigglyDeluxe 3 года назад +50

      Oh, and no roof either or windshield
      Zero mirrors since they are all mounted on the doors and windshield
      Also, brake lights double as turn signals. Stupid

    • @erickpina8802
      @erickpina8802 3 года назад +2

      😂😂

    • @thomasjohannesen1003
      @thomasjohannesen1003 3 года назад +58

      I used to be a vehicle inspector in Texas. I heard a story of a guy whose Wrangler failed inspection due to limo tints all around (which is weird because Texas rarely enforces tint) and he came back later that day with no doors and passed.
      Before you ask, technically you only need one mirror in Texas, so the inside mirror let him pass even though his side mirrors were on the doors sitting in his garage.

    • @PigglyWigglyDeluxe
      @PigglyWigglyDeluxe 3 года назад +10

      @@thomasjohannesen1003 and yet the R34 is still illegal

  • @lebronjames4705
    @lebronjames4705 3 года назад +128

    "I'm Not that much of a Drinker mind you"
    *Him literally the same sentence*
    "I had 13 Sake Bombs"

  • @joeottsoulbikes415
    @joeottsoulbikes415 3 года назад +357

    I knew a guy several years ago that made a deal where he drove to Canada on a Monday at 4AM with a Nissan 240SX on a trailer. That didn't really matter since going into Canada he talked to Canadian officers and on the way back it would be American. On the way in they wanted to know what he was doing in Canada with the car on the trailer. He said it was getting some body work done on the car. They actually made note of that in the computer under his name. He was sweating it at the crossing back at 5pm on a Friday a week later. The guard in the booth told him to pull over into the inspection lane. They asked him for the registration paperwork on the car. Well they knew what an R34 looked like and that it was not legal. The notes in the computer said he went in with a 240SX to get body work done. The car had a fresh paint job on it along with a hood, front, side skirts and rear bumper that were not stock as well as having the roof skinned off and carbon skin laid on and new roll cage inside. Well the VIN on the dash under the glass matched the 240SX. So did the door tag and every remaining sticker or tag on it. The motor was missing as it was on the way in. For some reason they never looked under the tarp in the back of the dark tented window Suburban he was towing the trailer with. If they had they would have found the skyline motor. So...as far as they were concerned he had a 240sx that had a LOT of body work done. That is the story of how at least one of the cars ended up in the US around 2011. So if you ever come upon one that has a carbon roof. I don't mean carbon laid over the metal or a vinyl wrap. I mean the frame shell supports left intact. The factory spot welds drilled out the roof skin cut off and replaced by a custom molded carbon roof from windshield to rear window. So if you ever see an R34 Nismo painted in a sparkle gold flake, deep blue, carbon hood with tear drop cold air intake vent on the driver side front, carbon mirrors, carbon roof, giant alloy frame carbon deck wing, carbon lower rear defuser, and the whole underside of the car mostly covered with alloy sheet metal hiding everything. That may be the car.

    • @opedrovianna
      @opedrovianna 3 года назад +120

      holy crap this story is much better than the one in the video haha

    • @Sword_of_Saint_14
      @Sword_of_Saint_14 3 года назад +5

      @@opedrovianna yeah lol

    • @JMDrives
      @JMDrives 3 года назад +41

      VinWiki, hook this guy up. Pretty interesting.

    • @btvbrndn
      @btvbrndn 3 года назад +12

      There are a few illegal ones that have made their way to the US from Canada

    • @joeottsoulbikes415
      @joeottsoulbikes415 3 года назад +5

      @@btvbrndn i know of six divided among WA, OR and ID.

  • @Korrmotive
    @Korrmotive 3 года назад +316

    As soon as I saw the title I immediately knew it would be Craig Lieberman.
    Naturally, I clicked instantly.

    • @rm6330
      @rm6330 3 года назад +4

      same dude same story

    • @justintaylor9458
      @justintaylor9458 3 года назад +2

      I was hoping it was Sean Morris, as he used to work at Motorex and has more insider info.

  • @camojg2272
    @camojg2272 3 года назад +373

    If you weren’t planning on doing it already make this guy a regular. Awesome storyteller

    • @d00z3r
      @d00z3r 3 года назад +13

      best to go to his channel: Craig Lieberman

    • @lanceborchickjr8511
      @lanceborchickjr8511 3 года назад +3

      His channel is great

    • @Matty.Hill_87
      @Matty.Hill_87 3 года назад +1

      He has his own channel that has everything you need

    • @PoopaChallupa
      @PoopaChallupa 3 года назад +2

      He doesn't meander or skitter through his stories. Uncommon these days.

    • @MyCatInABox
      @MyCatInABox 3 года назад

      I concur- good stuff.

  • @kelvarnsen1749
    @kelvarnsen1749 3 года назад +333

    This is the story I've been waiting for since the inception of car stories. Craig is the perfect guy to tell it. Awesome.

    • @WHYTEBOY
      @WHYTEBOY 3 года назад +4

      You should watch the story on his channel he goes into great detail on it

    • @fatman1288
      @fatman1288 3 года назад

      i was hoping it was longer

    • @TANGYHATCHY
      @TANGYHATCHY 3 года назад +3

      @@fatman1288 go watch the story on HIS channel. Has all the details this video left out. Surprised vinwiki cut it down this short tbh...

    • @klone209
      @klone209 3 года назад

      @@fatman1288 go to his actual channel I highly recommend it the interview with the motorex employee was good

    • @Gkvello22
      @Gkvello22 3 года назад

      There’s some really good detailed right ups on it’s from a few years ago

  • @G35370
    @G35370 3 года назад +58

    “You can get anything through the port in Miami” Pablo knew that too nothings changed lol

  • @lemonscented7703
    @lemonscented7703 3 года назад +55

    “When I sold my first GT-R, before the funds even hit my account I had a deposit on a Lamborghini Diablo.” literally ballin. what a quote lmao

  • @ThePowerofJames
    @ThePowerofJames 3 года назад +216

    The joys of being in Canada with the 15 year rule.

    • @markoz673bajen8
      @markoz673bajen8 3 года назад +12

      Middle East gets both of best worlds.
      Nissan sells the LHD A31 Cefiro sedan as Altima and Lots of American Resto Chevy Pick ups Clean factory mint.
      Nissan Patrols big turbos with no one batting an eye it's illegal. Etc

    • @markoz673bajen8
      @markoz673bajen8 3 года назад +6

      Some how there was a video of a Lhd of R34 GTR export from UAE import to Canada. I'm guessing the Canadian owner had more than just deep pockets getting GTR over there.

    • @COD6953
      @COD6953 3 года назад +3

      @@markoz673bajen8 From what I know there was a company either in the UAE or Germany that did LHD conversions of the R-34. I think craig did a post on that on his youtube channel sometime ago

    • @Donax695
      @Donax695 3 года назад +3

      @@COD6953 for a decent part of a history these cars were sorta but not 100% illegal in Continental Europe, it all depended on every specific country and your connections, for example where I live you had to have it converted into a LHD and change the lamps and have it all approved which costed a pretty penny, then someone from Poland won the case on European international court which said that if is something legal in the UK it also should be legal in Continental Europe, ever since then a lot of car been brought here from the UK, not sure why am I telling here this tho

    • @TravisFabel
      @TravisFabel 3 года назад +4

      @@markoz673bajen8 Yeah except you have to be in the Middle East.

  • @RNMAutomotiveAddiction
    @RNMAutomotiveAddiction 3 года назад +29

    Crazy story - Somebody has to do a movie about MotoRex and the whole underground car importing world.

  • @ZaxleTV
    @ZaxleTV 3 года назад +54

    I saw MotoRex and knew right away. "This is gonna be a Craig story."

  • @randomrebuilds
    @randomrebuilds 3 года назад +76

    Ordered a Bayside Blue R34 poster direct from Motorex back in '00 and its still hanging in my garage framed up as I can always dream about that car....

    • @kennyduarte783
      @kennyduarte783 3 года назад +4

      I bought a Motorex plate frame for my hooptie ‘88 Maxima.... I’m sure I still have it somewhere.

  • @Bob-Ross666
    @Bob-Ross666 3 года назад +47

    "It does not make it legal, it's still cocaine!" he says, face red with riotous fury. Well, Craig, some of us really LIKE cocaine.

  • @chrisromero2088
    @chrisromero2088 3 года назад +31

    In the same week the S2000 and R34 have been called out for what they are. I support this.

    • @alphatripduce
      @alphatripduce 3 года назад +3

      Where was the s2000 callout I used to have one they are not as great as everyone claims

    • @chrisromero2088
      @chrisromero2088 3 года назад

      @@alphatripduce Rob Ferriti's channel

    • @23omorales
      @23omorales 3 года назад +1

      @@chrisromero2088 rob ferretti is a snobby cry baby lol.

  • @hsensei
    @hsensei 3 года назад +38

    Only 9 minutes on Motorex? I bet they could go an hour on the shenanigan's.

    • @MyCatInABox
      @MyCatInABox 3 года назад +1

      I was kinda thinking the same thing 🤔

    • @cesariojpn
      @cesariojpn 3 года назад +3

      Craigs channel has a much more lengthy video on it.

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 3 года назад

      Donut Media did a podcast on it.

    • @cesariojpn
      @cesariojpn 3 года назад +1

      @@K1ng1995 Donut Media is trash. Craig had someone who had good knowledge on Motorex.

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 3 года назад

      @@cesariojpn I know I've listened to craigs videos and the podcast

  • @christianhepler7798
    @christianhepler7798 3 года назад +15

    WAIT! so we have the 25 year rule because of Mercedes and BMW? I would have guessed it was the US auto makers protecting their primary market. We need an RCR story for this.

    • @joealex65
      @joealex65 3 года назад +10

      Yeah, Mercedes started that whole BS because people were importing EU spec cars that were MUCH better than the US spec cars with those ugly bench seat bumpers and they wanted to stop that

    • @horridbeast4089
      @horridbeast4089 3 года назад

      absolutely disgusted, i already disliked those cars, now i hate them, remove the 25 year rule!

    • @jokerzwild00
      @jokerzwild00 3 года назад

      @@joealex65 Not only that, but a lot of the time people were importing the non-luxury versions of these cars (crank windows, no power locks, cloth seats, etc) for much less than the luxury models they sell in the US. A BMW is just a car in Germany, not exclusively a luxury car. Or it was when I lived there in the late 80s, it very well may be different now. Plenty of "normal" models without all of the extras. So you'd get the BMW or Merc badge, if that was what you wanted to flaunt, and a better looking car as you said, for a lower price even after shipping. In the military lots of guys used to buy these cars when stationed in Germany and have them shipped back home.

    • @Boredoutofmywits
      @Boredoutofmywits 3 года назад

      And Porche

    • @jwork5680
      @jwork5680 2 года назад

      @@horridbeast4089 why do u dislike Mercedes and BMW at the first place

  • @C-M-E
    @C-M-E 3 года назад +14

    Back in the 2000s, I had a lapse of sanity and was one email away from throwing down on a Motorex car when they very suddenly stopped correspondence. It was Years before I found out why.
    Not sure how this fits into this story, but I've heard through acquaintances of some of the late 90s hostess bars in Japan that would liquor up the obnoxious Western-variety clientele and roll them coming out of the clubs, but even the Japanese thugs had enough decency to only take their money and leave their wallets otherwise intact. That was the respectful way to do a shakedown if ever I've heard one.

    • @roor20
      @roor20 Год назад +2

      I know a guy who bought one just prior to the end and the feds showed up looking for it. Motorex was doing more shady stuff than what is said in this vid.

  • @jaydenjohner6901
    @jaydenjohner6901 3 года назад +131

    Craig is a Rabbit tier story teller. Can't get enough of this guy I hope you continue to make more videos with him!

  • @nikpinet2745
    @nikpinet2745 3 года назад +24

    I only recently found this channel and I fell in love. I’ve been following Craig for a year or so now so to see him telling stories on this channel is a huge bonus. Please get him back!

  • @princequestly2218
    @princequestly2218 3 года назад +3

    He goes into a story at the hostess bar about making fun of his boss but never tells the rest of the story. What was the point of even mentioning it in the story if you’re just gonna not finish. Very odd

  • @1DVSB
    @1DVSB 3 года назад +8

    I went to MotoRex to get an R32 and then a few weeks later before I could put a down payment they got busted. My dream ended to soon.....

    • @codyn92
      @codyn92 3 года назад

      Probably better you didn't pay that down payment haha.

  • @dimitriykosovay6211
    @dimitriykosovay6211 3 года назад +10

    Totally right, at $40-50k like FD RX7 it’s a compelling classic car. At six figure ranges 100% fanboy car

  • @untilthewheelsfalloff1751
    @untilthewheelsfalloff1751 3 года назад +5

    He’s right, the average person doesn’t know what mods to add and now due to buyer stupidity the average person won’t be able
    To have one. So they’ll just sit forever not being driven.

  • @hofahome
    @hofahome 3 года назад +6

    Around 2007 I saw a blue R34 driving in Denver. Nearly lost my mind. It was like seeing a unicorn.

  • @det300zx
    @det300zx 3 года назад +3

    A buddy of mine in the DMV area actually has the last legal tagged and titled R33 from Motorex... My 95 Skyline is tagged and title as a 300ZX Twin Turbo...lol. Kool story!

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад +1

      Is it a white 1995 car? Because the last true legal bond released MotoRex car was a white R33 GTR.

    • @det300zx
      @det300zx 3 года назад

      Why yes she is...

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад

      @@det300zx Was it, originally around New York? Lol. I don’t know the car personally but I’ve seen a decent amount of pics of it from an old for sale ad.

    • @det300zx
      @det300zx 3 года назад

      @@thenismoman4854 Virginia... Came in at the port of Baltimore.

  • @craig42069
    @craig42069 3 года назад +5

    Thanks Craig for making me feel better about not wanting to drop 200k on an R34 now that 25 years is finally up. Sincerely, Craig

  • @dwjfyoung
    @dwjfyoung 3 года назад +2

    Basically EVERY SINGLE R34 GTR is illegal unless its a motoRex or show and display.

  • @jringhisen
    @jringhisen 3 года назад +25

    You know it's a good channel when you sit here hitting refresh the moment the clock hits 1000.

  • @AndreKlebleyev
    @AndreKlebleyev 3 года назад +16

    Illegal??? *gasp*

    • @divecolosio4988
      @divecolosio4988 3 года назад

      Btw, how was your skylines documentations, sir?
      Is it all good?

  • @kmena05
    @kmena05 3 года назад +14

    this is the guy who made a lot of people want an R34

  • @jacobs.9797
    @jacobs.9797 3 года назад +2

    I don't know why people would pay over a hundred grand for a car the federal government could decide you shouldn't posses at any moment. Outside of the 14-16 MotoRex cars, all the others are illegal. That would make me paranoid as hell.

  • @rage12345678
    @rage12345678 3 года назад +8

    Paul Walker's white R34 V-Spec II from Motorex "BNR34-401514" is in Central Florida these days. I saw it at a cars and coffee once.

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад +3

      NO. That is false information. The chassis number is correct but the car you describe is wrong: Paul’s white car is still with the family in Cali. There was a VspecII Nür car that MotoRex imported. Was BNR34-403075. Original owner of Paul’s white car sold it back to MotoRex so he could buy and import an identical white Nür car. Which is now in Florida. With the help of GTR registry, Craig and Sean Morris, we were able to publicize many of the MotoRex car VIN’s on VINwiki app and GTR registry

  • @Matty.Hill_87
    @Matty.Hill_87 3 года назад +34

    Dudes story about being pissed up with a pair of Hookers at a buisness meeting was incredible 😂

    • @sammythewhammy69
      @sammythewhammy69 3 года назад

      Can you post a link?

    • @HE-162
      @HE-162 3 года назад +5

      @@sammythewhammy69 you just watched it...

    • @MyCatInABox
      @MyCatInABox 3 года назад +1

      @@HE-162 🤣

    • @aiccorp6001
      @aiccorp6001 3 года назад +2

      Alot of business is done in Hostess clubs in Japan. It's a cultural thing and they are NOT hookers.

    • @Boredoutofmywits
      @Boredoutofmywits 3 года назад +2

      @@aiccorp6001 well, that's a bit like strippers here... they aren't supossed to be hookers and amny arent but...

  • @corythomas9369
    @corythomas9369 3 года назад +5

    Finally someone said it and the story is more main stream. Skylines really aren't that awesome, sure they look cool, but drive like absolute crap. Unless you've actually driven one, your fan boy perception has no idea how they actually are.

    • @amaizeing.dumbass5123
      @amaizeing.dumbass5123 3 года назад +3

      From what I heard, only the 89-93 r32 GTR was worth it, and because there wasn't another thing like that in east Asia at the time, after that, the r33 and r34 (and the Mitsubishi 3000gt/dodge stealth) aren't that powerful and special in comparison (although they did look cool)

    • @corythomas9369
      @corythomas9369 3 года назад

      @@amaizeing.dumbass5123 basically

    • @GazMonty
      @GazMonty 3 года назад +4

      It’s just total nostalgic, most cars nowadays would destroy an R34 but obviously for many it’s the fantasy and nostalgia that makes them so appealing.

    • @cal.or7
      @cal.or7 3 года назад +1

      As a 32 GTR owner I must say it drives amazing, a true GT car very comfortable, smooth, and room for 4 people

    • @corythomas9369
      @corythomas9369 3 года назад +1

      @@cal.or7 as someone who's driven a fully built 500awhp r32, I can confirm that in no way is the car comfortable. Fast? Absolutely. True GT car? For sure. Smooth? Hell no, especially without a rear lock kit for that horrible 4ws.

  • @blakelip3
    @blakelip3 3 года назад +2

    Just because you can’t get plates for it does not make it legal........

  • @bruceyyyyy
    @bruceyyyyy 3 года назад +16

    The girls in one of the pictures all seem to have a STARS patch from Resident Evil on their outfits.

  • @shdwrcr
    @shdwrcr 3 года назад +4

    Craig Lieberman is awesome. Remember meeting him on a super street cruise to the nopi nationals back in late '90s. He was with eibach at the time. Great story teller

  • @jstocking9955
    @jstocking9955 3 года назад +57

    Lonlving these fast and furious stories!

    • @p71owner53
      @p71owner53 3 года назад +1

      Right

    • @kylefanjoy4966
      @kylefanjoy4966 3 года назад +2

      lonlving

    • @NickTaylorRickPowers
      @NickTaylorRickPowers 3 года назад +4

      He has his own channel, he did an hour on this motorex story with an ex employee

    • @paulcarmi8130
      @paulcarmi8130 3 года назад +1

      @@NickTaylorRickPowers one of the real ones that's been watching since last year lol

  • @alexanderthomas8593
    @alexanderthomas8593 3 года назад +19

    Adam LZ watching like 👁️👄👁️

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 года назад +3

      Don't worry about that his fans already attacked Sean Morris

    • @joealex65
      @joealex65 3 года назад +4

      There was already a big fight about that on the internet when Sean called out Adam for having an illegal R34, i respect Adamn but it's the truth, his car is not legal, he is safe because the FBI doesn't give a f*ck about that 😂

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 года назад

      @@joealex65 I think Adam calling TJ was a kindergarten move

    • @joealex65
      @joealex65 3 года назад

      @@antoniestrada1972 It was indeed, but the thing about LZ's R34 is real

    • @ardijanuar2036
      @ardijanuar2036 3 года назад +1

      If federal agency decide to break the balls of lz and other illegal r34 owners, they absolutely can. luckily he lives in florida where the law are kinda laid back. But he is pretty brave to show illegal cars like that publicly on internet, even back then after the motorex scandal blowing up, owners of motorex r34 are super secretive and flying under the radar about their car because they scared of feds will take their cars and crush them.

  • @huntersharddrive6951
    @huntersharddrive6951 3 года назад +6

    Part of the R34s draw has got to be that we all want what we can’t have. Personally I’d love to own one, but wouldn’t spend the kind of money it would take unless I literally had money to burn

    • @farhanpramadipta1858
      @farhanpramadipta1858 3 года назад +1

      right now prices of R34s are going crazy cause there is a price bubble for them, so are some JDM cars, but however give it several years and that bubble will burst and JDM car prices will be going down

  • @ChewyGDRP
    @ChewyGDRP 3 года назад +5

    Jesus. Some bizarre laws there in the US to have an import car.

    • @Finallybianca
      @Finallybianca 3 года назад

      You have no Idea considering each state is different and then we have federal laws as well. And customs can be a nightmare.

    • @justawaterbottle1505
      @justawaterbottle1505 3 года назад

      Gotta put the laws In place to try and hinder people from importing them before they turn 25

    • @erikm.905
      @erikm.905 3 года назад

      "land of the free" lmao

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 года назад +1

      I mean look at the Middle East they have some backward laws on importation of Japanese vehicles or any vehicles that are right hand drive

  • @GazMonty
    @GazMonty 3 года назад +60

    Good god I love these stories, next you should hunt down Hiro Nanahoshi for his side of the story... if he isn’t in jail or had an identity change 😂

    • @aiccorp6001
      @aiccorp6001 3 года назад +7

      I've heard he is in Osaka. He was one of the smartest guys I ever knew. Just for some insight Hiro was only 26 at the time. Got in over his head, started avoiding the shop , got drunk instead. In truth looking back he was probably dealing with depression and definitely stress and he was not listening to those around him that had his best interests.

    • @urbanizeddreams
      @urbanizeddreams 3 года назад +3

      His in the JDM Insider dvd series. Check it out!

    • @thatonegamer9547
      @thatonegamer9547 3 года назад

      @@aiccorp6001 that’s if he’s not dead, because he got into coke and meth heavily back when MotoRex was around.

    • @aiccorp6001
      @aiccorp6001 3 года назад

      @@thatonegamer9547 people love making up stories. At the time of his arrest he was quite chunky, despite what you've read Hiro wasn't a drug addict. I can assure you I've done more blow in my life than Hiro did. I'm from L.A. where it use to be a common party drug. Hiro had a drinking problem, he would from time to time smoke weed. MotoRex was owned by a company in Japan called AIC ...ummmm notice who replied to you? I knew Hiro very well.

    • @thatonegamer9547
      @thatonegamer9547 3 года назад

      @@aiccorp6001 I’ll be honest that’s the one thing I forgot to look up, I didn’t know that MotoRex was owned by AIC

  • @Dan_AYP
    @Dan_AYP 3 года назад +24

    Craigs just a fountain of tuner car knowledge... legendary insight and story from him as always

  • @workdesu
    @workdesu 3 года назад +5

    ah yes..the hype tax..made us pay the unthinkable for half decent stuff, while for the same amount of money we could've gone full glory

  • @skyhigh90210
    @skyhigh90210 3 года назад +3

    Speaking from experience; skylines are nice cars, but they're not $100k+ nice

  • @stepdadgary7449
    @stepdadgary7449 3 года назад +6

    It’s basically an Evo 10
    Entire internet triggered

    • @andyb1653
      @andyb1653 3 года назад

      He's not wrong tho. The GTR is a fantastic vehicle but the hype surrounding it is just ridiculous, you'd think the damn thing could raise the dead.

    • @1nvd
      @1nvd 3 года назад

      @@andyb1653 have you ever driven one?

    • @andyb1653
      @andyb1653 3 года назад

      @@1nvd So I have to DRIVE one to have an opinion on the hype surrounding it? Like I said the hype surrounding the car is overblown. It's a fucking sports car, not the 2nd coming of Christ.

  • @cadmando18
    @cadmando18 3 года назад +3

    Man it's disappointing but so true about all R34s. It's something I grew up with as being that icon of JDM super cars, and yet by today's standards, my 2021 Ford Mustang EcoBoost HPP would rip it a new one. Yes you can modify them, sure you can make them crazy. If I had unlimited funds, yes of course I would go after an R34 in a collection. For now I'll just fire up the old video game and keep the memory alive.

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 Год назад +2

      I actually got to see Eddie's Skyline from Need For Speed Underground in Person. Game was done at EA in Vancouver

    • @cadmando18
      @cadmando18 Год назад

      @@K1ng1995 that had to be awesome.

  • @michaelb6729
    @michaelb6729 3 года назад +18

    Last time I was this early .....
    Leon was still part of Toretto's crew ! 😆

    • @tomchillen3039
      @tomchillen3039 3 года назад

      What

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 3 года назад

      How Ironic since the yellow R33 GTR Leon drove in Fast 1 was a MotoRex car.

  • @kennyduarte783
    @kennyduarte783 3 года назад +3

    Many, many years ago, there was a Skyline meet that was announced on a forum I frequented and if memory served, it was in Gardenia, possibly Torrence... I forget exactly. This was after the Motorex debacle broke and the Skylines that showed up were legal Motorex cars, mostly R32’s and 33’s.
    However, there was 1 R34 there.... it was painted in that ‘mystic’ paint job that Ford had used on the Mustang Cobra, the color shifting one. It was a GT-R, modified too and it sat ABANDONED next to a smog shop with a layer of dust on it. From what people were saying it was Hiro’s car that he abandoned when he fled the US. Not sure what became of it.

  • @illsuspect
    @illsuspect 3 года назад +4

    Sport compact car magazine was the best magazine when it came to great practical information! Still read my stack of mags from the early 2000’s

    • @illsuspect
      @illsuspect 3 года назад

      @@baronvonslambert TRUE!

    • @MyCatInABox
      @MyCatInABox 3 года назад +1

      Yep- Definitely good reading material.
      I miss it

  • @andyrichter2714
    @andyrichter2714 3 года назад +2

    And now you can get an R35 for less than half the cost of an R34
    What the hell is going on

  • @drewdalesandro672
    @drewdalesandro672 3 года назад +2

    I am not a fan of the GT-R! The Fan Boys killed it. It's a Maxima!

  • @josephmoorison2200
    @josephmoorison2200 3 года назад +14

    Damn I early!!! I remember them. They used to be in LA, off Broadway, on 135th or 137th...

    • @K1ng1995
      @K1ng1995 3 года назад +1

      So Torrence really had a big Japanese community at the time?

    • @josephmoorison2200
      @josephmoorison2200 3 года назад

      @@K1ng1995 not that I know of. I just remember them, cuz I was wanting to get an R-34, before they went belly up lol.

  • @mehdimahoui9295
    @mehdimahoui9295 3 года назад +4

    Where are the lil boiz selling S15's & R34's saying 'iTz lEgaL iTz hAs a tiTle'

  • @Gentepreneur
    @Gentepreneur 3 года назад +1

    I grew up in Gardena and later lived in North Torrance on Bailey Dr. There was a house nearby who always had different colored Skylines in their driveway. Black, Blue, Silver..I believe it was the parents home of a gentleman named Steve from what I remember... I was selling cars at that time at a franchise store.

  • @rorynesta7766
    @rorynesta7766 3 года назад +3

    early 2000s,we used to have a Skyline forums here and someone from Motorex would post and chat to members about what they were doing there in the USA.I had no idea the GTRs werent allowed in the USA then.He seemed like a very nice person ....then things went quiet.Now I know why.

    • @thatonegamer9547
      @thatonegamer9547 3 года назад

      It’s not that they weren’t allowed period like they are now, it’s that they were federalizing them, and Hiro fucked up big time. That’s why the 25 year rule applies to any cars period. They don’t want another MotoRex to happen.

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад +2

      @@thatonegamer9547 false. 25 year law was put into place back in 1988. Long before motorex.

  • @justawaterbottle1505
    @justawaterbottle1505 3 года назад +5

    Craig Lieberman,the reason your 90s Japanese gt car is worth 90k

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 года назад +5

      No I kind of blaming one those sketchy Florida importers and the people who buy illegally imported cars I call it the I can't wait text

    • @justawaterbottle1505
      @justawaterbottle1505 3 года назад +1

      @@antoniestrada1972 I call it the I watched three jdm compilations and the first three fast and the furious movies syndrome

    • @divecolosio4988
      @divecolosio4988 3 года назад

      People can say their own stories in the end.
      In the end, politicians and bueraucrats were just elevating it to an absurd level, especially "White Power" bellowing "Buy American products if you're a patriot!"

    • @justawaterbottle1505
      @justawaterbottle1505 3 года назад

      @@divecolosio4988 you realize politicians didn’t make the law,but it was foreign car manufacturers who made and pushed for it right?

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 года назад

      @@justawaterbottle1505 I doubt it because the people that really really want them can afford them

  • @Carsaddiction
    @Carsaddiction 3 года назад +3

    That black stock R34 just looks gorgeous!

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад +1

      That’s Lowballergtr’s R34 GTR. Genuine 01’ VspecII car. Follow him on Insta if you want to see more of it. Had it repainted like factory and it looks amazing. One of the last few MotoRex cars imported

  • @apexseal2811
    @apexseal2811 3 года назад +2

    Craig is the only person accepted by the R34 fanboy community to trash the Skyline.

  • @sacredgear
    @sacredgear 3 года назад +2

    He’s not wrong... and that pisses off a lot of people in the scene.

  • @chill1n92
    @chill1n92 3 года назад +3

    Dang Craig is balling. Sold a R34 to get a Diablo

  • @Bu2Spike
    @Bu2Spike 3 года назад +9

    Him talking about the R34 makes me miss the R32 GTR when I was in Japan back in 2003

  • @redslate
    @redslate 3 года назад +1

    "It's an 'EVO X."
    Whoa... Hey now.
    1. The EVO X isn't the best representation of its namesake (that'd be the EVO IX).
    2. If we're comparing a Nissan Skyline GT-R to a parallel Mitsu, it's definitely a 3000GT VR-4.

  • @firebirdtito
    @firebirdtito 3 года назад +1

    hostess bar, in the military we called them Juicy bars.....any how is good to know that there is some in the states hahahaha

  • @lazz9015
    @lazz9015 3 года назад +11

    Hey ed I wanna thank you for sending me shirt's and sticker's for free you're the man I still wear that shirt when I watch vinwiki stories!

  • @peter-radiantpipes2800
    @peter-radiantpipes2800 3 года назад +7

    So funny because at home, Paul mostly drove his everyday, older truck around town. I rarely saw him in anything else.he was a car guy for sure but home, was about surfing, working out at the gym and outdoors and his daughter. Got best of both I guess.

    • @user-hc5si5tw5p
      @user-hc5si5tw5p 3 года назад

      I'm guessing u lived close to him? Fun guy?

    • @peter-radiantpipes2800
      @peter-radiantpipes2800 3 года назад +1

      @@user-hc5si5tw5p he was best friend of a friend. Nicest guy you could imagine.

    • @user-hc5si5tw5p
      @user-hc5si5tw5p 3 года назад

      @@peter-radiantpipes2800 As I would expect. Thanks for reply

  • @crxdelsolsir
    @crxdelsolsir 3 года назад +1

    Left hand: These cars are old and really not as powerful as newer cars. I get it, you never had it and you want it. But really who would spend that much on what is really just an EVO 10?
    Right hand: Remember I sold my old movie car for 200K? Well that is now worth 7 figures today (puts hands on face).

  • @olikat8
    @olikat8 3 года назад +1

    I respect Craig- he doesn't sugar coat his POV. Inversely, I think most ( repeat "Most") of the vehicles in "F&F" movies have aged terribly and always looked like"] "Clown cars." But that's just my opinion...like buttholes & belly buttons, we all have at least one

  • @loks2315
    @loks2315 3 года назад +3

    In 2004 a r34 gtr was 28k in nz lol

    • @Still-ill-Trill
      @Still-ill-Trill 3 года назад

      I feel you man. Im from NZ as well and I remember just a couple years back a R32 GTR was 10-15k all day. And now they're up over 65k

    • @loks2315
      @loks2315 3 года назад

      @@Still-ill-Trill yeah man, I remember walking to school and seeing them in Wellington Lower Hutt. Where I’m from. Was like woah that’s the silver car from 2 fast 2 furious lol

  • @arcadiagreen150
    @arcadiagreen150 3 года назад +3

    I have a few of the JadaToys 1:16th scale Motorex r34 skyline diecasts.

  • @gearhead2255
    @gearhead2255 2 года назад +1

    As someone who owns a monte carlo,I feel very attacked 😂

  • @stefanosilvestri389
    @stefanosilvestri389 3 года назад +2

    Love that finally someone says what true about GTR , nothing special 👍

  • @BILLYBOBB3080
    @BILLYBOBB3080 3 года назад +17

    I swear he is the best talker.

  • @kellyscars
    @kellyscars 3 года назад +4

    Early gang! I remember the Apex'i R34 at the Torrance Crossroads meet back then as well. I can't remember if that was a Motorex car or not...

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад +2

      White APEX’i car? It is a MotoRex car. Used to belong to Toshi Hayama, now belongs to rentJdm. One of the early cars

  • @kimmao562
    @kimmao562 3 года назад +2

    kicking myself in the ass now because, when I lived in japan for 8 years in 2009 i found a nice 33k km R-34 GT-R Vspec II for 35kUSD at a lot there and at the time i didnt want garage it until that 25 year mark hit... i should of done it lol

  • @braydon249
    @braydon249 3 года назад +6

    This story has been told way more times then needed.
    Want to do it differently then all the others....get Hiro and let him tell his side.

    • @craiglieberman
      @craiglieberman 3 года назад +6

      That dude has disappeared. No one knows where he is and he sure doesn't want to be found.

    • @markoz673bajen8
      @markoz673bajen8 3 года назад

      He is definitely Jason Bourne

  • @8gti9
    @8gti9 3 года назад +20

    I tried keeping up but he just talks so fast, 276 hp like lol

  • @seblo8462
    @seblo8462 3 года назад +1

    I saw 2 Motorex R34s in the early 2000s like 2001-2002 I was in high school and was skateboard home and saw them parked right outside this body shop that the people around the neighborhood would rumor was a chop shop lol...the shop is in Lynwood, CA and it's not the best of neighborhoods, I was shocked to see them jus parked outside all dusty but in impeccable condition the had Motorex decals on the quarter windows and paper work, one of the shop guys got suspicious and told me to kick rocks literally haha...yea something was off, the GTRs were gone the next day a blue and silver one.

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад

      Given the time period, I think I know which two particular cars they were. There was only one silver one around that time and it was Paul walkers old car. (Before the white VspecII) there were 4-5 bayside blue ones. But I have a good guess

    • @touringteg
      @touringteg 2 года назад

      I managed to see 2 in person in the Pacific Northwest. Black R32 GTR with Blitz 01 wheels at Golden Gardens near Seattle. A bayside blue R34 GTR Advan Model 5 in bronze and full Cwest kit. Got a ride in this one.

  • @MidNiteR32
    @MidNiteR32 2 года назад

    Sean Morris has been telling people that state legal GTRs are not federally legal on forums for decades and people thought they can outsmart the Feds with kit cars etc, they learned the hardway. Only MotoRex legalized GTRs something like 100 skyline GTRs.

  • @jaredbrannum3978
    @jaredbrannum3978 3 года назад +3

    Does that mean I can get an Evo IX wagon through the port of Miami!? :D

    • @Xolition
      @Xolition 3 года назад

      I sold my mint Evo IX MR, pray for me.

  • @Team6Loves
    @Team6Loves 3 года назад +3

    I've heard so many sides of this story, I love hearing more. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @dacbiet
    @dacbiet 3 года назад +2

    Man I remember Motorex back in high school.

  • @miguelmc2289
    @miguelmc2289 3 года назад +2

    Finally! The story we've been waiting for from the man himself!

  • @boostn32
    @boostn32 3 года назад +3

    And this is the exact reason why I chose to be born in Australia. GTR is life. 🥳😂

  • @miked7728
    @miked7728 3 года назад +5

    Every time I hear or read about this story it's always something different. I don't think I will ever know the full/true story about what happened at MotoRex.

  • @GHOST-im3xh
    @GHOST-im3xh 3 года назад +1

    And again the legend Craig Lieberman on the legendary VinWiki channel 🙂 it's made my day a lot better! 🙂🙂🙂 Thank you Ed!

  • @gtcam723
    @gtcam723 3 года назад +1

    The R34 just had about the most appealing lines of any of those cars and I have generally been fond of Nissan until relatively recently.
    I bet the collector value of an R34 is greater than most cars.

  • @PapawsDadillacOEMplus
    @PapawsDadillacOEMplus 3 года назад +12

    Craig is a true asset to the car community

    • @alexv8150
      @alexv8150 3 года назад +1

      Are fucking high?

  • @Thatguy55595
    @Thatguy55595 3 года назад +4

    Didn’t Paul Walker start dating a 16 year old when he was 33?

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад +1

      Yes.

    • @Thatguy55595
      @Thatguy55595 3 года назад +1

      @@thenismoman4854 so why promote him? Oh wait I forgot Ed loves promoting people involved in illegal sex acts

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 года назад

      @@thenismoman4854 really you just going to say yes from everything I looked up it was just inconclusive and confusing as hell we live in the twenty-first century and people get canceled on Twitter for doing little little things and he's going to make a return in the new movies from what I'm hearing you don't think something like that would be a bigger story nowadays but remember innocent until proven guilty

    • @antoniestrada1972
      @antoniestrada1972 3 года назад

      @@Thatguy55595 I mean innocent until proven guilty from what I looked and this was during the time when R Kelly and Michael Jackson got re-exposed it was inconclusive and confusing but again innocent until proven guilty

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад

      @@Thatguy55595 What did he promote before this?

  • @caseyashton1041
    @caseyashton1041 3 года назад +2

    It seems like he's not being very truthful about all of this. JK Technologies had only submitted successful a successful petition to federalize the R33 Skyline, and Motorex was going to lose their ability to import over it as they claimed R32 to R34 as all being the same. You can look up the list of vehicles that have had successful petitions for federalization from the NHTSA, and only 96-98 R33 are eligible. So while the R34s were allowed to stay, they were not federalized, and the majority of them didn't even get DOT approved lights, side markers, etc. which was one of the other things that the NHTSA went after them for as a number of cars that had been released into customer hands were spot checked and found to not be in compliance. Only the blue R34 did, a white R33 GT-R, and a silver R33 GTS-t. The final cars released after everyone caught a case of Ivy Wang are not federalized and didn't actually receive a document saying that they were. They just received a bond release saying that the owners had imported them with good intentions with a 3rd party to perform federalization, things didn't go well, and so they are making a very special exception.

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад

      There were rumors of MotoRex recycling photos of things like sidemarker lights and MPH speedos from already compliant cars so they could cut costs. One MotoRex r32 adamantly stated he didn’t want them cutting holes in his car to install the sidemarker lights so they apparently used red reflective tape lol

  • @ZerotheWanderer
    @ZerotheWanderer 3 года назад +1

    I actually saw an R34 on the road in Jacksonville FL a few weeks ago, and it was smaller than I thought they'd be.

  • @XxWITExX
    @XxWITExX 3 года назад +5

    is adamlz's one of the 14? or is it contraband?

    • @Addmoreboost
      @Addmoreboost 3 года назад +3

      Lol

    • @GazMonty
      @GazMonty 3 года назад +2

      It’s not a Motorex car 😂

    • @mehdimahoui9295
      @mehdimahoui9295 3 года назад +2

      LZ's one is illegal and will never be

    • @craiglieberman
      @craiglieberman 3 года назад +3

      Not legal, but right now, the Feds aren't paying attention.

    • @thenismoman4854
      @thenismoman4854 3 года назад +1

      NOT a MotoRex car. I know the dudes who imported it

  • @designmaster17
    @designmaster17 3 года назад +4

    Clicked on this faster than Eminem raps

  • @treebotreviews
    @treebotreviews 2 месяца назад

    This is why we love Craig.
    “It’s basically an Evo 10.”
    Based.

  • @Boredoutofmywits
    @Boredoutofmywits 3 года назад +1

    All R32 and plenty of R33 are legal to import now.

  • @mx3fto
    @mx3fto 3 года назад +6

    Saying 'it's an evo x when you think about it' is like saying a mustang is a corvette

    • @sparknut5338
      @sparknut5338 3 года назад

      For anyone who’s ever worked on both of those cars, you know there is truth to what he is saying.